| valorie | huh, aborted while I went to fertilize plants | 00:17 |
|---|---|---|
| valorie | I'll resume when I get back from dinner | 00:17 |
| ahoneybun | so I updated the icons on a few pages of the website | 03:09 |
| ahoneybun | also changed UDS to Akademy | 03:09 |
| valorie | thank you ahoneybun! | 03:16 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> It was bugging me too lol | 03:17 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> So np | 03:17 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> Its 11pm here | 03:17 |
| valorie | weird, the install aborted with no error message | 03:32 |
| valorie | trying again without downloading updates etc. | 03:33 |
| ahoneybun | yea I've seen that break things | 03:35 |
| valorie | I think I'll throw away this VM | 03:35 |
| ahoneybun | we should update that email from riddell | 03:35 |
| ahoneybun | on the contribute page too | 03:35 |
| valorie | and start over afresh | 03:35 |
| Mirv | acheronuk: indeed. and luckily many of the build problems now have a solution at least. Plasma should be working soon if the rebuilds of those goes fine, as Qt modules start to be now built. | 04:22 |
| sgclark | clivejo: yofel 16.04.1 needs to be tested if you guys could make a call or something | 06:41 |
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| acheronuk | Mirv: good to hear. have been resolving probs and doing builds this end using Qt 5.6.1 I backported from debian an put in a ppa, but I guess the sooner we can mirror what might actually be going in the YY archive the better | 06:55 |
| valorie | by the way, I was unable to install 16.04.1 in a vbox | 07:46 |
| valorie | probably something in how I set up vbox | 07:47 |
| soee | any errors ? | 07:47 |
| valorie | it just aborted each time | 07:47 |
| acheronuk | iso url? I'll have a go | 07:48 |
| valorie | http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/363/builds -- testers wanted | 07:48 |
| acheronuk | iso downloading | 07:56 |
| * acheronuk wishes for fibre | 07:57 | |
| acheronuk | valorie: when did it abort? | 08:05 |
| valorie | the first time, dunno because I was outside | 08:08 |
| valorie | locked up the computer | 08:08 |
| valorie | after that it wanted to resize and never finished | 08:08 |
| valorie | which is why I think it's vbox | 08:09 |
| acheronuk | install under way here, so shall see | 08:09 |
| yofel | might very well be vbox. I had lockups thanks to that in the past | 08:09 |
| acheronuk | vbox 5.0.x or 5.1? | 08:10 |
| valorie | $ apt-cache policy virtualbox | 08:12 |
| valorie | virtualbox: | 08:12 |
| valorie | Installed: 5.0.24-dfsg-2 | 08:12 |
| valorie | whatever was in the YY archive | 08:12 |
| acheronuk | vbox have 5.0.26 on their site, or 5.1 which was released a week or 2 ago | 08:14 |
| soee_ | http://i.imgur.com/5rEMLMV.jpg | 08:15 |
| acheronuk | vbox is constantly having to bugfix against new kernels/X etc, so I try to use the latest from their site. sometimes even their dev testing snapshots if I hit a specific problem | 08:15 |
| soee_ | the Continue button is not clickable | 08:17 |
| yofel | soee_: there is no continue button in that screenshot? | 08:17 |
| soee_ | yofel: well in the installer :) | 08:18 |
| acheronuk | all installed and booted http://i.imgur.com/JXmbZZM.jpg | 08:18 |
| soee_ | brobably something with VB configuration that prevents from pressing that button | 08:19 |
| yofel | acheronuk: please remember to say so in the testcase | 08:19 |
| acheronuk | soee_: too small virtual hard disc space allocated? that can prevent you being able to click to continue IIRC? | 08:20 |
| soee_ | acheronuk: it is 8GB | 08:20 |
| soee_ | and Neon Dev installs fine | 08:21 |
| acheronuk | I used 16GB as overkill, as Xenail refused install with 8 GB and guided install the other week | 08:21 |
| acheronuk | Neon installs less | 08:21 |
| * yofel tries to run some i386 testcases | 08:24 | |
| soee_ | acheronuk: indeed, increasing vdi size allows me to install system | 08:36 |
| santa_ | good morning everyone | 08:44 |
| soee_ | plasmashell crashes during install but probably due to VB | 09:16 |
| soee_ | it restarts and installer finishes fine | 09:17 |
| soee_ | yofel: we dont have any app on favs list right? | 09:19 |
| yofel | no we don't | 09:20 |
| clivejo | anyone with a disposable YY box? I would like a test install of Plasma 5.7.2 and what it wants to remove | 10:36 |
| IrcsomeBot | <marcinsagol> I can setup VB after 13:00 | 10:44 |
| acheronuk | clivejo: can in a bit | 11:07 |
| acheronuk | clivejo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/20297147/ | 11:12 |
| mamarley | clivejo: I actually already installed it. It didn't want to remove anything on my system. | 11:12 |
| * acheronuk seriously pondering upgrading to YY | 11:13 | |
| mamarley | I did a couple months back and I don't have any regrets. | 11:13 |
| acheronuk | main reason for holding back was I had half a mind to run Neon on this box for a while | 11:14 |
| acheronuk | so would need to stick with a xenial base | 11:14 |
| mamarley | It was really tempting to install Neon on my boxes too, but the reason I ended up not doing it was because I didn't want to be stuck on a LTS. | 11:15 |
| soee_ | yeah that is the only issue with Neon :D | 11:15 |
| soee_ | well for some :D | 11:15 |
| mamarley | In addition to the latest KDE krack, I also like to have the latest Xorg and kernel crack. :P | 11:15 |
| shadeslayer | mamarley: you can get the latest Xorg and kernel crack | 11:16 |
| shadeslayer | you just install the backported LTS packages | 11:16 |
| soee_ | he? | 11:16 |
| shadeslayer | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack | 11:16 |
| mamarley | True, but there are a bunch of other applications that I like to stay up-to-date on as well. | 11:17 |
| shadeslayer | you said kernel and xorg :P | 11:17 |
| shadeslayer | I have been decieved, noooo | 11:17 |
| soee_ | shadeslayer: The 16.04.2 and newer point releases will ship with an updated kernel and X stack by default for the desktop. Server installations will default to the GA kernel and provide the enablement kernel as optional. | 11:18 |
| soee_ | so only when doing fresh install ? | 11:18 |
| shadeslayer | yeah I guess? | 11:18 |
| acheronuk | Even if I tried Neon for a while, I would still have switched to YY on release at the latest | 11:19 |
| acheronuk | or ZZ ;) | 11:19 |
| acheronuk | Is this failing just because of the symbols? https://launchpadlibrarian.net/274219533/buildlog_ubuntu-yakkety-amd64.kwayland_4%3A5.24.0+p16.10+git20160721.0402-0_BUILDING.txt.gz | 11:34 |
| tsimonq2 | seems like there are still some 16.04.1 tests that need to be done, tackling them now | 11:41 |
| santa_ | acheronuk: it seems so, yes | 11:50 |
| acheronuk | not sure whether to update them for a CI build, and if so what version to use | 11:52 |
| acheronuk | oddly it builds fine in Neon from the same source, and I can't see they have done any updating of the symbols | 11:52 |
| yofel | tsimonq2, acheronuk, valorie, soee: images are good enough, thanks for testing | 11:54 |
| yofel | (and thanks to whoever I forgot) | 11:54 |
| tsimonq2 | yofel: alright, then nevermind :) | 11:55 |
| clivejo | I guess kde-style-qtcurve-qt5 needs a NC rebuild | 11:56 |
| * tsimonq2 does a set of Yakkety Daily tests | 11:56 | |
| soee | +1 | 11:56 |
| tsimonq2 | wait, you guys participating in Alpha 2 next week? | 11:56 |
| acheronuk | clivejo: yep | 11:57 |
| clivejo | fancy doing it ? | 11:57 |
| acheronuk | I use qtcurve, as I dislike breeze a bit | 11:57 |
| clivejo | Im just getting some lunch and then off to get robbed by th dentist | 11:58 |
| soee | yofel: do we participate in alpha 2 ? | 11:58 |
| yofel | tsimonq2, soee: probably not | 11:59 |
| acheronuk | clivejo: I have a few things to do this afternoon also, so I would suggest whoever gets to it first and feels like it | 11:59 |
| * clivejo wonders when the Ubuntu Health benifits kick in | 11:59 | |
| yofel | not much in the archive as we depend on qt 5.6 being in there | 11:59 |
| tsimonq2 | alright yofel | 11:59 |
| tsimonq2 | another thing I wanted to ask, I'm learning some packaging, is there anything simple I can do? | 11:59 |
| acheronuk | yofel: if I updates those kwayland symbols for unstable, would you use the labelled 5.24 of the build for the version, or the 5.25 that it's actually producing in the build | 12:01 |
| acheronuk | I guess the latter? | 12:01 |
| yofel | acheronuk: I think we did the former usually (i.e. 5.24+gitfoobar, without the ubuntu/ppa suffix) | 12:02 |
| clivejo | in the past I have just used the KCI version | 12:02 |
| yofel | there should be some examples in the symbol files | 12:02 |
| soee | tsimonq2: you want to package something simple ? | 12:02 |
| tsimonq2 | yep soee | 12:02 |
| soee | tsimonq2: did you packages something already? | 12:03 |
| soee | *packaged | 12:03 |
| acheronuk | yofel: ok. I'll have a look later then | 12:03 |
| clivejo | tsimonq2: did you manage to get the freeciv snap working? | 12:03 |
| tsimonq2 | clivejo: no :( | 12:03 |
| clivejo | Id love to see how that works | 12:04 |
| tsimonq2 | soee: I'm very familiar with the process, but I don't have experience :) | 12:04 |
| soee | clivejo, acheronuk will you be able to lead tsimonq2 a bit? | 12:04 |
| acheronuk | clivejo: the qtcurve git snapshot in YY is newer than XX, so I presume build that version for both? | 12:05 |
| clivejo | tsimonq2: could you do a no change rebuild of kde-style-qtcurve-qt5 ? | 12:06 |
| tsimonq2 | clivejo: in Ubuntu Yakkety? | 12:06 |
| clivejo | ah acheronuk might be on it | 12:06 |
| tsimonq2 | alright | 12:07 |
| clivejo | yeah, well both XX and YY if possible | 12:07 |
| acheronuk | tsimonq2: can do it if they want | 12:07 |
| tsimonq2 | alright | 12:07 |
| tsimonq2 | yeah I'm up for that | 12:07 |
| tsimonq2 | do you guys have archive access for when I have it ready? | 12:08 |
| clivejo | you need to grab the source, bump the ubuntu version and upload it to your PPA | 12:08 |
| clivejo | Ill have a look and copy it to our staging area | 12:08 |
| tsimonq2 | alright | 12:08 |
| clivejo | acheronuk: this is Simon, from the party/dojo | 12:09 |
| tsimonq2 | yep :D | 12:09 |
| acheronuk | ah. right. was trying to place the name. now that makes sense! | 12:09 |
| clivejo | https://www.kubuntu.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/593a/Kubuntu_Party_3.2.png | 12:09 |
| clivejo | bottom right under Rick T | 12:10 |
| acheronuk | yep, I got that. | 12:10 |
| clivejo | LOL that capture of Mario makes me giggle | 12:10 |
| tsimonq2 | I've rearranged my room since :P | 12:10 |
| * tsimonq2 updates his schroots | 12:11 | |
| acheronuk | the webcam on my laptop has it's kernel module disabled. on purpose. lol | 12:11 |
| clivejo | maybe Rik can help Simon while Im away getting robbed? | 12:11 |
| acheronuk | I'm out for about 2 hrs as well. | 12:12 |
| clivejo | oh dear | 12:12 |
| tsimonq2 | I'll just ping you both when it's uploaded to my PPA :) | 12:12 |
| clivejo | do you understand the task? | 12:12 |
| acheronuk | I've rebuilt it locally more than once. It shouldn't cause probs.... | 12:13 |
| acheronuk | not from the YY sources anyway | 12:13 |
| clivejo | oh wait, it will build with YY Qt | 12:14 |
| clivejo | ah but I can copy source only and rebuilt in our staging | 12:14 |
| clivejo | that should work ok | 12:14 |
| acheronuk | or/and simon could add one of the staging ppas with qt 5.6 as a temporary ppa dependency on his | 12:15 |
| soee | !info pulseaudio xenial | 12:16 |
| ubottu | pulseaudio (source: pulseaudio): PulseAudio sound server. In component main, is optional. Version 1:8.0-0ubuntu3 (xenial), package size 743 kB, installed size 3920 kB | 12:16 |
| soee | !info pulseaudio | 12:16 |
| ubottu | pulseaudio (source: pulseaudio): PulseAudio sound server. In component main, is optional. Version 1:9.0-1.1ubuntu1 (yakkety), package size 744 kB, installed size 3916 kB | 12:16 |
| soee | :< | 12:16 |
| tsimonq2 | I can't build the package... | 12:16 |
| tsimonq2 | dh clean --parallel --list-missing --with=kf5 | 12:16 |
| tsimonq2 | dh: unable to load addon kf5: Can't locate Debian/Debhelper/Sequence/kf5.pm in @INC (you may need to install the Debian::Debhelper::Sequence::kf5 module) (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/perl/5.22.2 /usr/local/share/perl/5.22.2 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/perl5/5.22 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/perl/5.22 /usr/share/perl/5.22 /usr/local/lib/site_perl /usr/local/l | 12:16 |
| tsimonq2 | ib/x86_64-linux-gnu/perl/5.22.1 /usr/local/share/perl/5.22.1 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/perl-base .) at (eval 11) line 2. | 12:16 |
| tsimonq2 | BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at (eval 11) line 2. | 12:16 |
| tsimonq2 | :/ | 12:17 |
| * tsimonq2 creates an LXD container | 12:17 | |
| acheronuk | need pkg-kde-tools installed on the build machine? | 12:18 |
| santa_ | yes | 12:18 |
| santa_ | tsimonq2: ↑ install pkg-kde-tools | 12:18 |
| acheronuk | or test in pbuilder | 12:19 |
| tsimonq2 | THANKS santa_ :D | 12:19 |
| acheronuk | right I gotta go. | 12:20 |
| santa_ | acheronuk: you need it even if you are doing source only builds so if you want to produce a *.dsc file to be fed in pbuilder... | 12:20 |
| santa_ | see you | 12:20 |
| tsimonq2 | done, uploading now | 12:20 |
| acheronuk | santa_: yes? I don't think I've ever tried without it being installed, so I'd not have noticed that | 12:21 |
| acheronuk | ok. really going. have fun | 12:21 |
| santa_ | bye | 12:21 |
| tsimonq2 | https://launchpad.net/~tsimonq2/+archive/ubuntu/testing/+build/10497976 | 12:22 |
| soee | :) | 12:25 |
| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 13:03 |
| tsimonq2 | acheronuk, clivejo: sorry, got sidetracked, all built! \o/ https://launchpad.net/~tsimonq2/+archive/ubuntu/testing/+packages | 13:48 |
| clivejo | yofel: ping | 13:51 |
| yofel | clivejo: hm? | 13:54 |
| acheronuk | the -3 on the end was the debian revision I think, so for ubuntu it would have been more appropriate to append to that rather than bump it? | 13:54 |
| clivejo | yeah, thats what I wanted to ask yofel | 13:54 |
| acheronuk | lol. all arrive at once! | 13:54 |
| clivejo | with a debian synced package | 13:54 |
| clivejo | how do we version a no change rebuild? | 13:54 |
| yofel | dch -R | 13:55 |
| yofel | -> -3build1 | 13:55 |
| clivejo | when would it become 3ubuntu1? | 13:57 |
| clivejo | if we started maintaining it? | 13:57 |
| * clivejo thinks he made a boo boo pyqt | 13:58 | |
| clivejo | with pyqt | 13:59 |
| * clivejo downs a litre of chilled water | 14:00 | |
| BluesKaj | I'm a bit disappointed that the sddm logion page on yakkety no longer accepts jpegs for background, the loader ewxpects some generic image*/ file with not other options, I hope this is just an oversight and not a deliberate restriction to make us download "approved" images | 14:16 |
| yofel | clivejo: it would on every actual modification. buildX means stricktly only a new changelog entry | 14:18 |
| yofel | *strictly | 14:18 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Clifford> Ah. I see | 14:25 |
| === pavlushka is now known as Guest80334 | ||
| * yofel uploaded the download links on the website | 15:13 | |
| yofel | it would be nice if someone culd double-check that | 15:13 |
| acheronuk | direct DL links and torrents seem to be pointing to the correct places for me | 15:17 |
| acheronuk | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2016-July/000209.html | 15:56 |
| santa_ | clivejo: fix for ffmpegthumbs here https://code.launchpad.net/~panfaust/kubuntu-packaging/+git/ffmpegthumbs/+merge/300788 | 16:26 |
| santa_ | have you looked kdelibs? | 16:26 |
| clivejo | I think yofel was looking at them | 16:29 |
| soee | shall we add some info about 16.04.1 at http://kubuntu.org/news/ ? | 17:09 |
| clivejo | yofel: if YY has -3build1 what do we call XX version? | 17:16 |
| acheronuk | the XX one is not a rebuild surely, as that version was not in XX before? | 17:31 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> Life is Strange is on Linux now | 17:38 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> soee | 17:38 |
| IrcsomeBot | <marcinsagol> What is it? | 17:54 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> Not sure just that its a episode style game | 18:07 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> We need to get a release page out for 16.04.1 | 18:07 |
| blaze | does anyone know when mesa 12 will hit YY? | 18:26 |
| jimarvan | hey peeps | 19:13 |
| IrcsomeBot | <yofel> clivejo: XX sounds like a backport. So go with the regular backports versioning | 19:46 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Clifford> 3build1.1? | 20:06 |
| clivejo | yofel: 3build1.1? | 20:18 |
| IrcsomeBot | <yofel> No. 3build1~ubuntu16.04~ppa1 | 20:19 |
| * acheronuk stares at plasma-workspace in CI..... BUILD! | 20:26 | |
| acheronuk | yea. built for xenial, and hopefully YY should next time it gets retried | 20:33 |
| * clivejo pokes plasma-workspace YY build | 20:37 | |
| acheronuk | have been gradually picking fixes in CI to try to fix the plasma build chain on there, to get plasma-desktop to build in the end | 20:38 |
| acheronuk | over the last week or so | 20:38 |
| clivejo | yeah, but it doesnt help when LP or KCI crap out in the middle of it | 20:39 |
| acheronuk | nope. it doesn't | 20:39 |
| clivejo | anything you want poked? | 20:39 |
| clivejo | have you tried to log into KCI? | 20:40 |
| acheronuk | yep. and I've done a bit of prodding myself | 20:40 |
| acheronuk | just carefully! | 20:41 |
| clivejo | needs kwin-dev | 20:41 |
| acheronuk | ^^^ KCI trying to panic me! that was an earlier one | 20:42 |
| acheronuk | oh yes, kwin should build in YY now. | 20:43 |
| clivejo | if there are packages still red in the upstream projects they should be resolved first | 20:43 |
| acheronuk | forgot that while being pleased for the plasma-workspace | 20:44 |
| acheronuk | yes, I know. that's what I've been doing | 20:44 |
| acheronuk | trying to fix that build chain step by step | 20:45 |
| clivejo | dh_install: plasma-desktop-data missing files: usr/share/appdata/org.kde.plasmashell.metainfo.xml | 21:53 |
| acheronuk | clivejo: yep, it moved. trying fix | 21:56 |
| clivejo | if you push to unstable it should auto-merge and trigger the two builds | 21:59 |
| acheronuk | already done | 21:59 |
| clivejo | so efficient!! | 22:00 |
| acheronuk | If it breaks in another way, I'll have to sort that tomorow.. | 22:01 |
| acheronuk | and the few others. didn't expect it to all automagically fix at once | 22:02 |
| acheronuk | all good practice :) | 22:03 |
| clivejo | its fun for a bit | 22:03 |
| clivejo | until it breaks stuff for no reason | 22:03 |
| acheronuk | always a reason. just sometimes the reason is not within your comprehension or control | 22:05 |
| clivejo | out of memory on KCI | 22:06 |
| clivejo | or Launchpad is temp unavailable | 22:06 |
| acheronuk | well, everything in life has a few ways to kick you | 22:07 |
| clivejo | LP has more than a few! | 22:07 |
| valorie | heh | 22:07 |
| valorie | thus the "affectionate" name Lunchpad | 22:07 |
| acheronuk | I expect I'll get most of that to build, and straight away the KDE devs will make sweeping changes! | 22:07 |
| acheronuk | valorie: haha, yes. | 22:08 |
| valorie | we can just take the official release note and put it on the website, correct? | 22:09 |
| valorie | and make it Kub specific | 22:09 |
| valorie | ah, I see we usually just do a two-liner | 22:12 |
| acheronuk | ooh. plasma-desktop built on XX KCI | 22:20 |
| valorie | ahoneybun or whoever is around -- I c/p/fixed the article, and put in the links, but I don't know how to make them "proper" links | 22:25 |
| valorie | can someone fix that | 22:25 |
| valorie | it's saved as a draft | 22:25 |
| acheronuk | kwin build "out of memory", so workspace then fails. grr... | 22:33 |
| * clivejo nods | 22:33 | |
| clivejo | so annoying | 22:35 |
| acheronuk | if I can get kwin to build, I'll come back to the rest tomorrow | 22:36 |
| clivejo | should I try clearing the workspace? | 22:37 |
| acheronuk | kwin is now building | 22:37 |
| acheronuk | on a retry | 22:38 |
| clivejo | ok | 22:38 |
| clivejo | any ideas why it randomly throws that out of memory error? | 22:38 |
| clivejo | only seems to be doing that recently | 22:38 |
| acheronuk | not a scooby | 22:38 |
| acheronuk | is that still running on bluesystems? | 22:40 |
| clivejo | yes | 22:40 |
| acheronuk | hmmm | 22:41 |
| valorie | failing memory unit? | 22:43 |
| acheronuk | "make: *** Cannot allocate memory. Stop." | 22:45 |
| valorie | :( | 22:47 |
| acheronuk | 6 fixes in a row seems a good point to say goodnight | 22:54 |
| valorie | thanks for your work acheronuk! | 22:56 |
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