[00:17] huh, aborted while I went to fertilize plants [00:17] I'll resume when I get back from dinner [03:09] so I updated the icons on a few pages of the website [03:09] also changed UDS to Akademy [03:16] thank you ahoneybun! [03:17] It was bugging me too lol [03:17] So np [03:17] Its 11pm here [03:32] weird, the install aborted with no error message [03:33] trying again without downloading updates etc. [03:35] yea I've seen that break things [03:35] I think I'll throw away this VM [03:35] we should update that email from riddell [03:35] on the contribute page too [03:35] and start over afresh [04:22] acheronuk: indeed. and luckily many of the build problems now have a solution at least. Plasma should be working soon if the rebuilds of those goes fine, as Qt modules start to be now built. [06:41] clivejo: yofel 16.04.1 needs to be tested if you guys could make a call or something === palasso_ is now known as palasso [06:55] Mirv: good to hear. have been resolving probs and doing builds this end using Qt 5.6.1 I backported from debian an put in a ppa, but I guess the sooner we can mirror what might actually be going in the YY archive the better [07:46] by the way, I was unable to install 16.04.1 in a vbox [07:47] probably something in how I set up vbox [07:47] any errors ? [07:47] it just aborted each time [07:48] iso url? I'll have a go [07:48] http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/363/builds -- testers wanted [07:56] iso downloading [07:57] * acheronuk wishes for fibre [08:05] valorie: when did it abort? [08:08] the first time, dunno because I was outside [08:08] locked up the computer [08:08] after that it wanted to resize and never finished [08:09] which is why I think it's vbox [08:09] install under way here, so shall see [08:09] might very well be vbox. I had lockups thanks to that in the past [08:10] vbox 5.0.x or 5.1? [08:12] $ apt-cache policy virtualbox [08:12] virtualbox: [08:12] Installed: 5.0.24-dfsg-2 [08:12] whatever was in the YY archive [08:14] vbox have 5.0.26 on their site, or 5.1 which was released a week or 2 ago [08:15] http://i.imgur.com/5rEMLMV.jpg [08:15] vbox is constantly having to bugfix against new kernels/X etc, so I try to use the latest from their site. sometimes even their dev testing snapshots if I hit a specific problem [08:17] the Continue button is not clickable [08:17] soee_: there is no continue button in that screenshot? [08:18] yofel: well in the installer :) [08:18] all installed and booted http://i.imgur.com/JXmbZZM.jpg [08:19] brobably something with VB configuration that prevents from pressing that button [08:19] acheronuk: please remember to say so in the testcase [08:20] soee_: too small virtual hard disc space allocated? that can prevent you being able to click to continue IIRC? [08:20] acheronuk: it is 8GB [08:21] and Neon Dev installs fine [08:21] I used 16GB as overkill, as Xenail refused install with 8 GB and guided install the other week [08:21] Neon installs less [08:24] * yofel tries to run some i386 testcases [08:36] acheronuk: indeed, increasing vdi size allows me to install system [08:44] good morning everyone [09:16] plasmashell crashes during install but probably due to VB [09:17] it restarts and installer finishes fine [09:19] yofel: we dont have any app on favs list right? [09:20] no we don't [10:36] anyone with a disposable YY box? I would like a test install of Plasma 5.7.2 and what it wants to remove [10:44] I can setup VB after 13:00 [11:07] clivejo: can in a bit [11:12] clivejo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/20297147/ [11:12] clivejo: I actually already installed it. It didn't want to remove anything on my system. [11:13] * acheronuk seriously pondering upgrading to YY [11:13] I did a couple months back and I don't have any regrets. [11:14] main reason for holding back was I had half a mind to run Neon on this box for a while [11:14] so would need to stick with a xenial base [11:15] It was really tempting to install Neon on my boxes too, but the reason I ended up not doing it was because I didn't want to be stuck on a LTS. [11:15] yeah that is the only issue with Neon :D [11:15] well for some :D [11:15] In addition to the latest KDE krack, I also like to have the latest Xorg and kernel crack. :P [11:16] mamarley: you can get the latest Xorg and kernel crack [11:16] you just install the backported LTS packages [11:16] he? [11:16] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack [11:17] True, but there are a bunch of other applications that I like to stay up-to-date on as well. [11:17] you said kernel and xorg :P [11:17] I have been decieved, noooo [11:18] shadeslayer: The 16.04.2 and newer point releases will ship with an updated kernel and X stack by default for the desktop. Server installations will default to the GA kernel and provide the enablement kernel as optional. [11:18] so only when doing fresh install ? [11:18] yeah I guess? [11:19] Even if I tried Neon for a while, I would still have switched to YY on release at the latest [11:19] or ZZ ;) [11:34] Is this failing just because of the symbols? https://launchpadlibrarian.net/274219533/buildlog_ubuntu-yakkety-amd64.kwayland_4%3A5.24.0+p16.10+git20160721.0402-0_BUILDING.txt.gz [11:41] seems like there are still some 16.04.1 tests that need to be done, tackling them now [11:50] acheronuk: it seems so, yes [11:52] not sure whether to update them for a CI build, and if so what version to use [11:52] oddly it builds fine in Neon from the same source, and I can't see they have done any updating of the symbols [11:54] tsimonq2, acheronuk, valorie, soee: images are good enough, thanks for testing [11:54] (and thanks to whoever I forgot) [11:55] yofel: alright, then nevermind :) [11:56] I guess kde-style-qtcurve-qt5 needs a NC rebuild [11:56] * tsimonq2 does a set of Yakkety Daily tests [11:56] +1 [11:56] wait, you guys participating in Alpha 2 next week? [11:57] clivejo: yep [11:57] fancy doing it ? [11:57] I use qtcurve, as I dislike breeze a bit [11:58] Im just getting some lunch and then off to get robbed by th dentist [11:58] yofel: do we participate in alpha 2 ? [11:59] tsimonq2, soee: probably not [11:59] clivejo: I have a few things to do this afternoon also, so I would suggest whoever gets to it first and feels like it [11:59] * clivejo wonders when the Ubuntu Health benifits kick in [11:59] not much in the archive as we depend on qt 5.6 being in there [11:59] alright yofel [11:59] another thing I wanted to ask, I'm learning some packaging, is there anything simple I can do? [12:01] yofel: if I updates those kwayland symbols for unstable, would you use the labelled 5.24 of the build for the version, or the 5.25 that it's actually producing in the build [12:01] I guess the latter? [12:02] acheronuk: I think we did the former usually (i.e. 5.24+gitfoobar, without the ubuntu/ppa suffix) [12:02] in the past I have just used the KCI version [12:02] there should be some examples in the symbol files [12:02] tsimonq2: you want to package something simple ? [12:02] yep soee [12:03] tsimonq2: did you packages something already? [12:03] *packaged [12:03] yofel: ok. I'll have a look later then [12:03] tsimonq2: did you manage to get the freeciv snap working? [12:03] clivejo: no :( [12:04] Id love to see how that works [12:04] soee: I'm very familiar with the process, but I don't have experience :) [12:04] clivejo, acheronuk will you be able to lead tsimonq2 a bit? [12:05] clivejo: the qtcurve git snapshot in YY is newer than XX, so I presume build that version for both? [12:06] tsimonq2: could you do a no change rebuild of kde-style-qtcurve-qt5 ? [12:06] clivejo: in Ubuntu Yakkety? [12:06] ah acheronuk might be on it [12:07] alright [12:07] yeah, well both XX and YY if possible [12:07] tsimonq2: can do it if they want [12:07] alright [12:07] yeah I'm up for that [12:08] do you guys have archive access for when I have it ready? [12:08] you need to grab the source, bump the ubuntu version and upload it to your PPA [12:08] Ill have a look and copy it to our staging area [12:08] alright [12:09] acheronuk: this is Simon, from the party/dojo [12:09] yep :D [12:09] ah. right. was trying to place the name. now that makes sense! [12:09] https://www.kubuntu.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/593a/Kubuntu_Party_3.2.png [12:10] bottom right under Rick T [12:10] yep, I got that. [12:10] LOL that capture of Mario makes me giggle [12:10] I've rearranged my room since :P [12:11] * tsimonq2 updates his schroots [12:11] the webcam on my laptop has it's kernel module disabled. on purpose. lol [12:11] maybe Rik can help Simon while Im away getting robbed? [12:12] I'm out for about 2 hrs as well. [12:12] oh dear [12:12] I'll just ping you both when it's uploaded to my PPA :) [12:12] do you understand the task? [12:13] I've rebuilt it locally more than once. It shouldn't cause probs.... [12:13] not from the YY sources anyway [12:14] oh wait, it will build with YY Qt [12:14] ah but I can copy source only and rebuilt in our staging [12:14] that should work ok [12:15] or/and simon could add one of the staging ppas with qt 5.6 as a temporary ppa dependency on his [12:16] !info pulseaudio xenial [12:16] pulseaudio (source: pulseaudio): PulseAudio sound server. In component main, is optional. Version 1:8.0-0ubuntu3 (xenial), package size 743 kB, installed size 3920 kB [12:16] !info pulseaudio [12:16] pulseaudio (source: pulseaudio): PulseAudio sound server. In component main, is optional. Version 1:9.0-1.1ubuntu1 (yakkety), package size 744 kB, installed size 3916 kB [12:16] :< [12:16] I can't build the package... [12:16] dh clean --parallel --list-missing --with=kf5 [12:16] dh: unable to load addon kf5: Can't locate Debian/Debhelper/Sequence/kf5.pm in @INC (you may need to install the Debian::Debhelper::Sequence::kf5 module) (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/perl/5.22.2 /usr/local/share/perl/5.22.2 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/perl5/5.22 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/perl/5.22 /usr/share/perl/5.22 /usr/local/lib/site_perl /usr/local/l [12:16] ib/x86_64-linux-gnu/perl/5.22.1 /usr/local/share/perl/5.22.1 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/perl-base .) at (eval 11) line 2. [12:16] BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at (eval 11) line 2. [12:17] :/ [12:17] * tsimonq2 creates an LXD container [12:18] need pkg-kde-tools installed on the build machine? [12:18] yes [12:18] tsimonq2: ↑ install pkg-kde-tools [12:19] or test in pbuilder [12:19] THANKS santa_ :D [12:20] right I gotta go. [12:20] acheronuk: you need it even if you are doing source only builds so if you want to produce a *.dsc file to be fed in pbuilder... [12:20] see you [12:20] done, uploading now [12:21] santa_: yes? I don't think I've ever tried without it being installed, so I'd not have noticed that [12:21] ok. really going. have fun [12:21] bye [12:22] https://launchpad.net/~tsimonq2/+archive/ubuntu/testing/+build/10497976 [12:25] :) [13:03] Hiyas all [13:48] acheronuk, clivejo: sorry, got sidetracked, all built! \o/ https://launchpad.net/~tsimonq2/+archive/ubuntu/testing/+packages [13:51] yofel: ping [13:54] clivejo: hm? [13:54] the -3 on the end was the debian revision I think, so for ubuntu it would have been more appropriate to append to that rather than bump it? [13:54] yeah, thats what I wanted to ask yofel [13:54] lol. all arrive at once! [13:54] with a debian synced package [13:54] how do we version a no change rebuild? [13:55] dch -R [13:55] -> -3build1 [13:57] when would it become 3ubuntu1? [13:57] if we started maintaining it? [13:58] * clivejo thinks he made a boo boo pyqt [13:59] with pyqt [14:00] * clivejo downs a litre of chilled water [14:16] I'm a bit disappointed that the sddm logion page on yakkety no longer accepts jpegs for background, the loader ewxpects some generic image*/ file with not other options, I hope this is just an oversight and not a deliberate restriction to make us download "approved" images [14:18] clivejo: it would on every actual modification. buildX means stricktly only a new changelog entry [14:18] *strictly [14:25] Ah. I see === pavlushka is now known as Guest80334 [15:13] * yofel uploaded the download links on the website [15:13] it would be nice if someone culd double-check that [15:17] direct DL links and torrents seem to be pointing to the correct places for me [15:56] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2016-July/000209.html [16:26] clivejo: fix for ffmpegthumbs here https://code.launchpad.net/~panfaust/kubuntu-packaging/+git/ffmpegthumbs/+merge/300788 [16:26] have you looked kdelibs? [16:29] I think yofel was looking at them [17:09] shall we add some info about 16.04.1 at http://kubuntu.org/news/ ? [17:16] yofel: if YY has -3build1 what do we call XX version? [17:31] the XX one is not a rebuild surely, as that version was not in XX before? [17:38] Life is Strange is on Linux now [17:38] soee [17:54] What is it? [18:07] Not sure just that its a episode style game [18:07] We need to get a release page out for 16.04.1 [18:26] does anyone know when mesa 12 will hit YY? [19:13] hey peeps [19:46] clivejo: XX sounds like a backport. So go with the regular backports versioning [20:06] 3build1.1? [20:18] yofel: 3build1.1? [20:19] No. 3build1~ubuntu16.04~ppa1 [20:26] * acheronuk stares at plasma-workspace in CI..... BUILD! [20:33] yea. built for xenial, and hopefully YY should next time it gets retried [20:37] * clivejo pokes plasma-workspace YY build [20:38] have been gradually picking fixes in CI to try to fix the plasma build chain on there, to get plasma-desktop to build in the end [20:38] over the last week or so [20:39] yeah, but it doesnt help when LP or KCI crap out in the middle of it [20:39] nope. it doesn't [20:39] anything you want poked? [20:40] have you tried to log into KCI? [20:40] yep. and I've done a bit of prodding myself [20:41] just carefully! [20:41] needs kwin-dev [20:42] ^^^ KCI trying to panic me! that was an earlier one [20:43] oh yes, kwin should build in YY now. [20:43] if there are packages still red in the upstream projects they should be resolved first [20:44] forgot that while being pleased for the plasma-workspace [20:44] yes, I know. that's what I've been doing [20:45] trying to fix that build chain step by step [21:53] dh_install: plasma-desktop-data missing files: usr/share/appdata/org.kde.plasmashell.metainfo.xml [21:56] clivejo: yep, it moved. trying fix [21:59] if you push to unstable it should auto-merge and trigger the two builds [21:59] already done [22:00] so efficient!! [22:01] If it breaks in another way, I'll have to sort that tomorow.. [22:02] and the few others. didn't expect it to all automagically fix at once [22:03] all good practice :) [22:03] its fun for a bit [22:03] until it breaks stuff for no reason [22:05] always a reason. just sometimes the reason is not within your comprehension or control [22:06] out of memory on KCI [22:06] or Launchpad is temp unavailable [22:07] well, everything in life has a few ways to kick you [22:07] LP has more than a few! [22:07] heh [22:07] thus the "affectionate" name Lunchpad [22:07] I expect I'll get most of that to build, and straight away the KDE devs will make sweeping changes! [22:08] valorie: haha, yes. [22:09] we can just take the official release note and put it on the website, correct? [22:09] and make it Kub specific [22:12] ah, I see we usually just do a two-liner [22:20] ooh. plasma-desktop built on XX KCI [22:25] ahoneybun or whoever is around -- I c/p/fixed the article, and put in the links, but I don't know how to make them "proper" links [22:25] can someone fix that [22:25] it's saved as a draft [22:33] kwin build "out of memory", so workspace then fails. grr... [22:33] * clivejo nods [22:35] so annoying [22:36] if I can get kwin to build, I'll come back to the rest tomorrow [22:37] should I try clearing the workspace? [22:37] kwin is now building [22:38] on a retry [22:38] ok [22:38] any ideas why it randomly throws that out of memory error? [22:38] only seems to be doing that recently [22:38] not a scooby [22:40] is that still running on bluesystems? [22:40] yes [22:41] hmmm [22:43] failing memory unit? [22:45] "make: *** Cannot allocate memory. Stop." [22:47] :( [22:54] 6 fixes in a row seems a good point to say goodnight [22:56] thanks for your work acheronuk!