[01:18] <jeffrey_f> a bit off topic, which is why I'll ask: can someone answer a question on python and mysql-connector in a private message?
[02:07] <pepee> https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=108492  2012, still present...
[07:05] <thialfi> Hi guys, anyone online to help me with a weird issue?
[07:07] <thialfi> I've just installed the plasma desktop on top of a regular ubuntu to test if I want to use it instead of that or gnome, and I really like it. I've just got one issue, maybe one of you can help me with it: Whenever I open a Menu in an application (the menu bar), there are weird blue artifacts as I move the mouse over the opened menu. Sometimes it's
[07:07] <thialfi> just a bit weird, sometimes it renders the menu illegible and useless. Any idea what may cause this?
[07:11] <thialfi> This seems to happen to qt5 applications only
[07:21] <YankDownUnder> thialfi: Try "qtconfig" - see if that helps.
[07:22] <thialfi> that shows a qt4 config dialog, does it?
[07:24] <thialfi> I think I might have found the reason. my system uses nouveau for plasma. The driver settings dialog is stuck at the "collecting information about your system" loading page. Weird. I'll see if I can set the video driver to nvidia and check if that solves my issue
[07:25] <YankDownUnder> thialfi: When that hangs, you can try this in a termina: sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall
[07:26] <thialfi> the nvidia-361 driver is installed already. autoinstall changes some packages, though
[07:27] <thialfi> dpkg returned an error code. hang on while I try to fix this
[07:46] <thialfi> it looks a lot like my video driver was somehow broken. I'm just reinstalling the latest version from the graphics drivers ppa. let's cross our fingers ;) I'll be back after a reboot
[07:52] <thialfi> this particular problem is solved with the latest driver.
[07:54] <soee> :)
[07:55] <thialfi> If I now can get the window title bar back to a reasonable size and the external montior working properly, I'm a happy man
[07:55] <soee> reasonable size ?
[07:56] <thialfi> everything around my desktop is scaled up. It looks like I'm on a 1024x768 screen
[07:58] <YankDownUnder> thialfi: The other day someone had the same issues - it was a matter of resetting the properties in the display settings for KDE/Plasma
[07:59] <thialfi> how would I do this?
[07:59] <YankDownUnder> thialfi: Also, I was going to mention before you rebooted, did you do anything further with Plasma - like adding the "backports" PPA's? Just wondering.
[07:59] <thialfi> let's check. I may have tried something alike a while ago and if it stuck in my apt sources... let's see
[08:00] <thialfi> kubuntu-ppa-ubuntu-backports-xenial.list looks a lot like I did, right?
[08:00] <YankDownUnder> thialfi: Yes.
[08:01] <thialfi> should I undo this?
[08:01] <thialfi> how stable is this backports ppa?
[08:01] <YankDownUnder> thialfi: No, no - not at all...that gives you the latest version of Plasma
[08:01] <YankDownUnder> thialfi: They're quite stable and usable.
[08:01] <thialfi> that was probably why I did it in the first place
[08:03] <thialfi> so, my screen is set to full hd, scaling is set to 1, yet the (how is the bottom left start-menu-thing called in plasma) menu reaches all the way up to the top of the screen as if it were a tiny screen. the font size in the task bar is also scaled up accordingly. many other things are, too
[08:05] <YankDownUnder> thialfi: Check the "Accessibility" settings.
[08:06] <thialfi> evolution and gedit are fine, kate and kmail are not.
[08:06] <YankDownUnder> thialfi: You said it was an NVidia card yeah? Have you tried "apt-get install nvidia-settings" - or do you already have that control panel utility installed?
[08:06] <YankDownUnder> https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/display
[08:07] <thialfi> it is installed
[08:07] <thialfi> the resolution is fine
[08:08] <YankDownUnder> thialfi: http://blog.davidedmundson.co.uk/blog/high_dpi_again
[08:10] <thialfi> Nope. Checked that. the Scaling setting is 1
[08:11] <YankDownUnder> thialfi: Not done yet...read: https://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2016/07/multi-screen-woes-in-plasma-5-7/
[08:14] <YankDownUnder> thialfi: Another thing that has been done (as of recently) was to "blow out" the configuration for the external monitor, and then recreate it. If you understand what I mean. Either which, mull over all of that...going to eat now. Cheers.
[08:16] <thialfi> it seems like I've just started some longer configuration marathon for myself :D thank you a lot
[11:35] <Mrokii> Hello. I have set both Alt-keys to activate the 3rd-level of a key (things like [,{ or ~). That works via system settings, but the problem is, when I choose that option, other combinations like "Alt-F1" for Kubuntus' Application Launcher don't work anymore. Is there a way to have both things working? 3rd-level via alt keys *and* Application Launcher and such?
[12:06] <user|21246> Hi all, I've just installed gnu octave 3.8.1 and several octave packages including qtoctave onto kubuntu 14.04. When I launched octave the command window displayed the following. "wwarning: dx does not seem to be present some functionalities will be d
[12:06] <user|21246> isaHi all. I've just installed gnu octave 3.8.1 and several octave packges onto kubuntu 14.04.
[12:08] <user|21246> Oops, i thought that I had lost the previous text. The warning should read :- "warning: dx does not seem to be present some functionalities will be disabled".
[12:09] <user|21246> Does anyone know what this dx is ?
[12:10] <user|21246> I've looked at the octave faq but no it is not mentioned there.
[12:20] <soee> uhm i never used that
[12:20] <soee> !info octave
[12:21] <soee> !info octave  trusty
[12:22] <soee> user|21246: seen that http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9255286/warnings-after-octave-installation ?
[12:22] <soee> see the last comment
[12:29] <user|21246> @soee: thanks for the link
[12:37] <user|21246> @soee: just implemented the edit shown on the stackoverflow page and all is well. Thanks again for the help.
[12:40] <user|21246> quit
[13:03] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:13] <AngelRipper> hey!
[13:14] <BluesKaj> hi
[13:49] <Silverado> hi
[13:54] <plata_> Hi. I'm having the problem that my update applet does not show updates when they are available. I have to run apt update manually, then the applet will show up. Any ideas?
[13:55] <soee> plata_: what Kubuntu version are you running?
[13:55] <plata_> 16-04
[13:55] <plata_> sorry 16.04
[13:55] <soee> plata_: do you have backports enabled ?
[13:57] <plata_> uhm. need to figure out what backports is called in German. One sec
[13:59] <soee> plata_: backports ppa
[13:59] <soee> plata_: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/plasma-5-6-5-and-frameworks-5-23-now-in-backports-for-kubuntu-16-04/
[13:59] <soee> so chekc if you have that extra ppa added
[14:00] <plata_> no. don't have the ppa. I thought it was only the check in software sources as described here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports#Enabling_Backports_on_Kubuntu
[14:02] <plata_> wait. it's actually in my sources.list
[14:06] <soee> so you have Plamsa 5.6.5 ?
[14:06] <soee> *Plasma
[14:07] <Smurphy> PNo - Plamsa :)
[14:08] <plata_> no 5.5.5. Don't know why
[14:10] <soee> and you are sure you have backports enabled ? :D
[14:10] <plata_> I can see xenial-backports when I run apt update but it doesn't seem to find the 5.6.5
[14:10] <soee> kubuntu backports
[14:10] <soee> sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports
[14:10] <plata_> omph. I'm sorry
[14:10] <soee> sudo apt update
[14:10] <plata_> thank you
[14:11] <soee> sudo apt full-upgrade
[14:12] <plata_> once you do it right it works :P
[14:12] <soee> update packages and see if the problem is gone
[14:13] <soee> brb
[14:14] <plata_> I will. thanks so much soee. should have really been able to figure this out myself... somehow didn't think about kde not beeing updated with the ubuntu repos
[15:39] <ryszard> Hello. Does anyone know when the Plasma 5.7 will be available on the Kubuntu Backports?
[15:42] <soee> ryszard: no ETA yet
[15:43] <ryszard> tx
[15:54] <acheronuk> ryszard: but it is being actively worked on :)
[17:41] <b7171> HI I have not used Kubuntu in ages, n00b question, where is the package manager or does it not come as default??
[18:17] <merdan> hs
[18:17] <merdan> ds
[18:17] <merdan> d
[18:17] <merdan> f
[18:17] <merdan> dsf
[18:17] <merdan> sf
[18:18] <BluesKaj> merdan, do you have a question?
[18:18] <merdan> y
[18:19] <merdan> whats this
[18:19] <BluesKaj> !kubuntu
[18:20] <merdan> hey guys
[18:20] <merdan> i have a question
[18:20] <merdan> where i can find programs which i downloaded and installed
[18:21] <merdan> i have downloaded teamviewer
[18:21] <BluesKaj> in the K menu
[18:21] <merdan> and installed
[18:21] <merdan> but i cant find
[18:21] <YankDownUnder> merdan: Is it possible to type everything on a single line instead of nine thousand lines with three words on them?
[18:22] <BluesKaj> right click on the dektop , choose run command , type teamviewer
[18:22] <merdan> what
[18:22] <merdan> i dont understand
[18:22] <BluesKaj> YankDownUnder, ???
[18:24] <YankDownUnder> BluesKaj: It's entirely annoying to try to scroll back through the logs - the conversation - when three words are typed on a line - multiple times - where they could all be conjoined into a single sentence.
[18:24] <merdan> ok, how to download and install metasploit
[18:25] <BluesKaj> YankDownUnder, which irc client?
[18:25] <YankDownUnder> Nearly any IRC client created since 1988...
[18:27] <BluesKaj> in konversation you can right click in the text and choose "find text" a boc pops up and type the the 3 words in to search
[18:27] <BluesKaj> abox
[18:30] <YankDownUnder> BluesKaj: I'm using Konversation...the point I was trying to make to "Merdan" was that he could very well type all of what he was trying to say on a single line instead of multiple lines...I do believe I'm fairly aware of how to use the applications at hand - as I've kinda used a fair whack of different clients since 1991...it wasn't a point of trying to figure out how to use Konversation...but thanks all the same for the tip.
[18:32] <BluesKaj> oh I thought he was just trying to see if he was in a chat
[18:34] <YankDownUnder> BluesKaj: I believe that was the case as well...I'm just annoyed this morning - a vast amount of stupidity and "lack of thinking" across heaps of channels...my patience for younger people has already worn quite thin for the day - and it's not yet sunrise...therefore, it must mean I need more coffee.
[18:35] <BluesKaj> insomnia will do that :-)
[18:35] <YankDownUnder> BluesKaj: Not insomnia, my friend - I awake very early - daily...tis my routine..."early to bed, early to rise" as it were.
[18:39] <BluesKaj> understood , I'm usually up by 6:30AM since retirement 17 yrs ago...I'm on in yrs so i think I know how you feel about the "vast amount of stupidity"
[18:39] <BluesKaj> YankDownUnder,^
[18:42] <YankDownUnder> BluesKaj: Nearing the "age of rest" myself - fastly so - however, I shan't bow under...I shall merely change tack. I'm supposed to be "semi-retired" now, but that merely means that I do less physical work and more mental work...and as far as "collective ignorance" - aka stupidity - things have gotten vastly worse on IRC in the past few years...vastly...therefore, sometimes my patience wears thin quicly...
[18:44] <BluesKaj> YankDownUnder, the instant gratification generation will hav e to learn about the benefits of patience sooner or later if they wish to survive, but it can't come soon enough
[18:46] <YankDownUnder> BluesKaj: Hehehe...yeah, don't get me started...I can rant on this topic all day...and longer... :)
[18:46] <yosi> Hello, I am visually impaired and looking for some screen magnification tools, I installed compizconfig and enabled screen zoom but it isnt zooming when I press those keys. Is there a channel I can join to figure out why?
[18:49] <rattking> I know there is a kde magnifier called kmag maybe you will have better luck with that, as compiz is a whole new desktop compositor
[18:51] <BluesKaj> yosi, kmenu>computer>system settings>desktop behaviour>desktop effects>zoom
[18:51] <rattking> oh and kde can do that its self. checkout system settings / Desktop behaviour / desktop effects zoom and or magnifier..
[18:51] <rattking> yeah that
[18:51] <soee> http://i.imgur.com/4t2rKuv.png
[18:52] <yosi> BluesKaj: ok lemme try :)
[18:54] <yosi> when it says 'meta' which key is that?
[18:54] <soee> function or windows
[18:54] <YankDownUnder> yosi: Bear in mind that there is also #compiz => if you wish "compiz" advice...
[18:54] <yosi> ah
[18:54] <yosi> Im also in there
[18:55] <yosi> OMGGG
[18:55] <yosi> that works perfectly
[18:55] <BluesKaj> yosi, sorry i just know it's there, never had occasion to use it
[18:55] <yosi> I aslso installed xzoom but that was not very user friendly
[18:56] <yosi> the meta + meta - works awesome thank you all
[19:12] <cucujoide> hello, recently i postet a question: http://askubuntu.com/questions/788924/update-message-in-kubuntu-16-04 . the problem is not completely solved yet (how to switch to plasma-discover-updater?)
[19:34] <Not_a_Robot> Does anyone here uses KMail, please?
[19:56] <cucujoide> exit
[20:08] <clivejo> Not_a_Robot: I use kmail as part of the PIM suite
[20:11] <Not_a_Robot> clivejo: hi, thank you. Do you know how to filter the Inbox like always?  I want to have the newest message on top and the oldest at the bottom, without any group, just messages. Do you know how to do that?
[20:13] <clivejo> View>Message List>Sorting By Time/Date and also check the Most recent on top
[20:14] <clivejo> and View>Message List>Aggregiation  Activity by Date, Flat
[20:14] <clivejo> you can have it threaded but I dont like that
[20:16] <Not_a_Robot> me neither clivejo, let me test please!
[20:28] <Not_a_Robot> clivejo: Flat date view is what I was searching for! Thank you soooooo much, really
[20:28] <clivejo> no problem :)
[20:28] <clivejo> what version are you running?
[20:29] <Not_a_Robot> Latest Kubuntu so.. let me check
[20:29] <Not_a_Robot> KMail Version 5.1.3
[20:29] <clivejo> not got backports installed then :)
[20:30] <Not_a_Robot> clivejo: is that something bad or..?
[20:30] <clivejo> nope not bad
[20:31] <clivejo> Im running 5.2.3
[20:31] <Not_a_Robot> Wow
[20:31] <Not_a_Robot> You downloaded the sources or something, clivejo?
[20:32] <clivejo> which is available via KDE Apps 15.04.3 which should be in backports
[21:05] <Not_a_Robot> btw clivejo, do you know how to check error messages? KMail says my server doesn't support LOGIN but the little popup I see with that message is not enough and I can't read the complete message.
[21:06] <clivejo> went you set it up you should be able to probe it
[21:06] <clivejo> and select a method it does support
[21:07] <clivejo> when
[21:11] <Not_a_Robot> clivejo: I'm not sure about which method it supports. What is not working is the SMTP and I don't see where to check if it works
[21:12] <clivejo> what mail service is it?
[21:12] <Not_a_Robot> clivejo: 1and1
[21:14] <clivejo> did you use the wizard to set it up?
[21:14] <Not_a_Robot> clivejo: no, manually
[21:15] <clivejo> have you added a receiving and a sending account?
[21:15] <Not_a_Robot> yes clivejo
[21:15] <Not_a_Robot> the problem is in the SMTP configuration I guess
[21:15] <clivejo> and mapped them together with an ID?
[21:16] <clivejo> what happens when you try to send an email?
[21:16] <Not_a_Robot> clivejo: The popup appears
[21:16] <Not_a_Robot> and I can't read the whole message..
[21:19] <viewer|75602> Hello. Anybody is here?
[21:19] <viewer|75602> I have a problem with my kubuntu 16.04
[21:20] <clivejo> over 200 people are here
[21:20] <viewer|75602> I can't join any wifi network.
[21:21] <clivejo> how long have you had this problem?
[21:21] <viewer|75602> I've installed kubuntu yesterday
[21:22] <clivejo> where from?
[21:22] <viewer|75602> from official site
[21:23] <clivejo> try the new 16.04.1 release -> http://kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/
[21:24] <viewer|75602> thx
[21:24] <clivejo> It was released today and contains a lot of bug fixes
[21:24] <viewer|75602> i will try. hope it will help
[21:25] <clivejo> Not_a_Robot: try looking in .xsession-errors in your home directory
[21:25] <clivejo> kontact logs some stuff there
[21:27] <viewer|75602> thx. i have to go now. bue
[21:27] <Not_a_Robot> clivejo: Nothing, I thought running KMail from the terminal would output somthing but nope..
[21:29] <viewer|75602> can i update my system? or it is necessary to download the system from official site?
[21:29] <clivejo> you should be able to update, but have you an internet connection to do so?
[21:30] <viewer|75602> yeah. i have LAN
[21:32] <viewer|75602> wire, i mean. i don't know how it's called right
[21:32] <viewer|75602> Good night
[21:33] <clivejo> do a distribution upgrade
[23:26] <work> Hello, How to remove pannel program stacking? example http://i.imgur.com/BPPLLFJ.png