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* slangasek waves | 15:00 | |
robru | o/ | 15:00 |
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pitti | goedendag! | 15:00 |
caribou | \o | 15:00 |
pitti | slangasek: can I go first/early today? I'm currently in a train station, travelling back from the sprint; but I need to leave in ~ 10 min | 15:01 |
slangasek | "A goedendag (also rendered godendac, godendard, godendart, and sometimes conflated with the related plançon) was a weapon originally used by the militias of Medieval Flanders in the 14th century, notably during the Franco-Flemish War." | 15:01 |
slangasek | pitti: ack | 15:01 |
sil2100 | o/ | 15:01 |
slangasek | #startmeeting | 15:02 |
meetingology | Meeting started Thu Jul 21 15:02:05 2016 UTC. The chair is slangasek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 15:02 |
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pitti | slangasek: uh, that was sarcasm at the extreme, I'd say :) | 15:02 |
slangasek | [TOPIC] Lightning round | 15:02 |
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slangasek | $ echo $(shuf -e barry doko bdmurray slangasek caribou infinity sil2100 robru cyphermox pitti tdaitx xnox chiluk mwhudson) | 15:03 |
slangasek | robru slangasek barry bdmurray tdaitx xnox chiluk doko mwhudson caribou sil2100 cyphermox pitti infinity | 15:03 |
slangasek | ... but pitti goes first | 15:03 |
pitti | Mon-Wed: mini-sprint with seb128, Laney, and tedg for converting session startup from session bus/upstart to user bus/systemd; good progress, some bugs/holes found (no surprise), see https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/convergence-y-replace-upstart for current status | 15:03 |
robru | yay | 15:03 |
pitti | lxd: debug failure on mounting the root fs (#1602192) | 15:03 |
pitti | debug and propose a fix for networking restart/ssh deadlock (#1584393) | 15:03 |
pitti | (done) | 15:03 |
robru | lp:bileto | 15:03 |
robru | * verbose britney logs for debugging purposes | 15:03 |
robru | * status job is 99% done, unit tests are done, just a few rough edges to sort out and more testing needed | 15:03 |
robru | lp:cupstream2distro | 15:03 |
robru | * check dest archive first for supported arches before falling back on main_archive. | 15:03 |
robru | (done) | 15:03 |
slangasek | * prepped for this week's snappy sprint | 15:05 |
slangasek | * ubuntu-image: we have an image that can boot to grub under UEFI; more refinement needed | 15:05 |
slangasek | * working through bug reports around the secureboot policy change in latest kernel SRUs (LP: #1604873 et al) | 15:05 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 1604873 in shim-signed (Ubuntu Xenial) "MokSBStateRT strictly inferior to /proc/sys/kernel/moksbstate_disabled" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1604873 | 15:05 |
slangasek | * mid-cycle planning | 15:05 |
slangasek | * some work on un-sticking transitions in proposed-migration; haskell almost got there, then got wedged on an unreproducible (on porter box) armhf build failure halfway up the stack | 15:05 |
slangasek | * travel swap day tomorrow; mid-cycle next week in .nl | 15:05 |
slangasek | (done) | 15:06 |
slangasek | barry: | 15:06 |
barry | all ubuntu-image all the time | 15:06 |
barry | --done-- | 15:06 |
bdmurray | research into how hwe support works in update-manager | 15:06 |
bdmurray | forward port of hwe support to Trusty, Yakkety | 15:06 |
bdmurray | ubuntu-release-upgrader bug triage | 15:06 |
bdmurray | tested LP: #1603436 (python2.7 Xenial regression-update bug) | 15:06 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 1603436 in python2.7 (Ubuntu Yakkety) "Regression in python2.7 SRU breaks python-cassandra" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1603436 | 15:06 |
bdmurray | ✔ done | 15:06 |
tdaitx | = OpenJDK security update | 15:06 |
tdaitx | - Packaged, tested, and released OpenJDK 8 package for the security team for Xenial and Wily; a Yakkety package is also available | 15:06 |
tdaitx | - Backporting security patches for OpenJDK 7 ongoing | 15:06 |
tdaitx | = Merges | 15:06 |
tdaitx | - isc-dhcp onhold while I worked on the security update | 15:06 |
tdaitx | = Other | 15:06 |
tdaitx | - Will be away today afternoon and tomorrow the whole day (finally moving to a new place) | 15:07 |
tdaitx | - There's a good chance I will be working from a shared office or similar next week while I wait for an ISP technician to check service 'availability | 15:07 |
tdaitx | (done) | 15:07 |
slangasek | xnox: | 15:07 |
xnox | * 16.04.1 iso testing, ubiquity, SRU finalisation | 15:07 |
xnox | * zua - fixing apparmor/libvirt/qemu integration | 15:07 |
xnox | * opencryptoki upgrade for s390x | 15:07 |
xnox | * mdadm with raid fixes in debian (to fix fallout bugs & to merge into ubuntu) | 15:07 |
xnox | * mdadm isms is outstanding | 15:07 |
xnox | * btrfs upload pending | 15:07 |
xnox | .. | 15:08 |
slangasek | chiluk: ? | 15:08 |
bdmurray | xnox: have you seen bug 1599428? | 15:08 |
ubottu | bug 1599428 in mdadm (Ubuntu) "checkarray doesn't work" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1599428 | 15:08 |
xnox | bdmurray, yes. among others... failure to boot currently higher on my list. | 15:09 |
bdmurray | xnox: okay, that sounds important. ;-) | 15:10 |
slangasek | doko: are you back today, or not until tomorrow? | 15:10 |
doko | first day back in Berlin (good timing, all SRU regressions already fixed ;p), catching up on email | 15:10 |
doko | so, nothing more | 15:10 |
slangasek | ok :) | 15:10 |
slangasek | caribou: | 15:10 |
caribou | Bugfix: | 15:10 |
caribou | dpkg status file corrupt | 15:10 |
caribou | - Investigating landscape LDS | 15:10 |
caribou | Launchpad & Public | 15:10 |
caribou | Multiple makedumpfile bugfix | 15:10 |
caribou | LP: #1570093 - multipath-tools sponsor | 15:10 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 1570093 in multipath-tools (Ubuntu Xenial) "multipath-tools update introduced syslog messages about partx" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1570093 | 15:10 |
caribou | Meetings | 15:11 |
caribou | Paid Timeout | 15:11 |
caribou | & I'm off for the next three weeks on vacation as of friday | 15:11 |
caribou | ☑ Done | 15:11 |
sil2100 | - Landing team work, silo coordination, preparing landing e-mails | 15:11 |
sil2100 | - RTM status meetings | 15:11 |
sil2100 | - OTA-12: | 15:11 |
sil2100 | * Sanity-checking all rc image contents | 15:11 |
sil2100 | * Announcing and discussing the additional delay requested by the manufacturer | 15:11 |
sil2100 | - Touch xenial: | 15:11 |
slangasek | Paid Timeout? | 15:11 |
sil2100 | * Noticed additional missing packages in arm64 xenial builds | 15:11 |
sil2100 | * Wrote a separate script checking for unbuilt binaries for arm64 | 15:11 |
sil2100 | * Prepared, tested and landed silo with multiple packages rebuilt for arm64 | 15:11 |
sil2100 | * Investigating further build failures in the rootfs | 15:11 |
sil2100 | - Discussing OTA-13 release dates | 15:11 |
sil2100 | - Looking into the KPI instrumentation PPA implementation | 15:11 |
caribou | slangasek: PTO or whatever you wan to call it | 15:11 |
sil2100 | - Prepping a bileto pre hook for address-book-app to unblock it from yakkety | 15:11 |
sil2100 | - Adding missing devices to commitlog generation | 15:11 |
sil2100 | - Looking into the goget-ubuntu-touch new landing | 15:11 |
sil2100 | - Helping Timo in reviewing some code and proposals for moving SDK off the seeds | 15:11 |
slangasek | ah :) | 15:11 |
sil2100 | - SRUing the xorg-server arm64-enablement bits we published to xenial-overlay | 15:12 |
sil2100 | - Backporting recent per-device-redirect changes to the s-i testability branch | 15:12 |
sil2100 | (done) | 15:12 |
slangasek | cyphermox is out | 15:13 |
slangasek | pitti has already gone | 15:13 |
slangasek | infinity is at the snappy sprint this week | 15:13 |
slangasek | <infinity> snappy sprint, arm64 ISO, self-loathing, illness, snappy sprint, 16.04.1 release. | 15:13 |
slangasek | ^^ summary :) | 15:13 |
slangasek | any questons? | 15:13 |
xnox | and 16.04.01 is out 20 minutes ago =) | 15:14 |
slangasek | yes but the website is not updated yet | 15:14 |
barry | infinity's reports are so uplifting | 15:14 |
slangasek | The underrated sequel to the Hunter S. Thompson classic, "snappy and self-loathing in Heidelberg" | 15:15 |
barry | :D | 15:15 |
slangasek | seeing no questions... | 15:16 |
slangasek | [TOPIC] AOB | 15:16 |
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slangasek | anything else for today? | 15:16 |
slangasek | feature freeze coming up, everybody feeling good about yakkety? | 15:16 |
barry | pretty good from the python side | 15:18 |
slangasek | gcc6 test rebuild looks only moderately awful compared to the baseline | 15:18 |
slangasek | a bunch of build failures still because of debhelper compat 4 being declared obsolete | 15:18 |
slangasek | hopefully we'll pick up fixes for most of those from Debian (especially for main); please stay on top of merges to make sure we pick up any fixes | 15:19 |
slangasek | [LINK] http://people.ubuntuwire.org/~wgrant/rebuild-ftbfs-test/test-rebuild-20160701-yakkety.html | 15:19 |
xnox | #webops working on the website deployment | 15:19 |
barry | i'll take a look at the relevant main failures (we need a new dh-python in debian to fix the zope.interface one) | 15:21 |
chiluk | sorry slangasek.. nothing from me ... I've been distracted with maas 2.0 cases lately, so nothing you guys care about. | 15:22 |
slangasek | chiluk: ok :) | 15:22 |
slangasek | sounds like that covers us then for this week | 15:22 |
slangasek | oh | 15:22 |
slangasek | volunteer to run the meeting next week, since I'll be sprinting? | 15:23 |
slangasek | xnox: thanks for volunteering! | 15:24 |
slangasek | #endmeeting | 15:24 |
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meetingology | Meeting ended Thu Jul 21 15:24:58 2016 UTC. | 15:24 |
meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2016/ubuntu-meeting.2016-07-21-15.02.moin.txt | 15:24 |
slangasek | thanks :) | 15:25 |
caribou | thanks slangasek & see you in August | 15:25 |
xnox | slangasek, &> pitti | 15:25 |
tdaitx | thanks all! | 15:26 |
barry | thanks! | 15:26 |
pitti | slangasek: ugh, FF already? time flies :) | 16:29 |
pitti | slangasek: FYI, I got a name for the network YAML thing and approved config paths, so this is unblocked | 16:29 |
belkinsa | #startmeeting Community Council Check-In | 16:59 |
meetingology | Meeting started Thu Jul 21 16:59:52 2016 UTC. The chair is belkinsa. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 16:59 |
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belkinsa | Who is all for the meeting today? | 17:00 |
belkinsa | #chair czajkowski | 17:00 |
meetingology | Current chairs: belkinsa czajkowski | 17:00 |
czajkowski | aloha | 17:00 |
belkinsa | Let's wait five minutes for the rest to come. | 17:01 |
czajkowski | nods | 17:01 |
belkinsa | We need members from the Desktop and the Developer Membership Board teams. | 17:01 |
sil2100 | I'm here o/ (from the DMB) | 17:02 |
belkinsa | sil2100: thank you for coming. | 17:02 |
czajkowski | sil2100: thanks | 17:02 |
sil2100 | But I think we were supposed to be here officially in 30 minutes | 17:02 |
belkinsa | sil2100: that is true, but if none from the Desktop team come, we may have to start with you. | 17:03 |
belkinsa | Agenda:https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda | 17:03 |
sil2100 | Should I try pinging the rest of the DMB? | 17:03 |
belkinsa | Yes, please. | 17:04 |
tsimonq2 | Community Council, could we please get a date for the next Lubuntu check-in? | 17:04 |
czajkowski | tsimonq2: it's not on the list will get it amended after the meeting | 17:04 |
tsimonq2 | thank you czajkowski :) | 17:05 |
belkinsa | czajkowski: I pinged the desktop team in their channel. | 17:05 |
czajkowski | nods | 17:05 |
czajkowski | sil2100: any more DMB folks? | 17:05 |
sil2100 | Poked them on #ubuntu-devel, but it seems everyone was waiting for 17:30 UTC | 17:06 |
* micahg is here | 17:06 | |
rbasak | o/ | 17:06 |
czajkowski | #topic DMB check in | 17:06 |
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czajkowski | great :) | 17:06 |
belkinsa | Are you both of Desktop team? | 17:06 |
rbasak | DMB. | 17:06 |
sil2100 | micahg, rbasak: thanks for popping up! | 17:06 |
belkinsa | Okay, perfect. | 17:07 |
czajkowski | thanks for coming folks | 17:07 |
belkinsa | And thank you, czajkowski. | 17:07 |
czajkowski | so micahg rbasak sil2100 how are things in the land of DMB ? | 17:07 |
czajkowski | care to catch us up | 17:07 |
rbasak | So I'm new on the DMB, still learning the ropes. | 17:07 |
micahg | we've actually had a nice stream of applicants recently | 17:07 |
micahg | not a full agenda, but usually we have at least 1 | 17:08 |
rbasak | I feel that we're a little slow in getting stuff done for people after approvals, partly because most of us are learning the ropes, and partly because some approvals need a TB member to make them actually happen, and we have only one (very busy) overlapping person. | 17:08 |
rbasak | I'd like to do that better, but I think we will as we get the hang of things. | 17:08 |
* belkinsa nods | 17:08 | |
sil2100 | I guess it happens for those more complicated applications | 17:09 |
czajkowski | rbasak: do you guys discuss before hand or wait till the meeting, is thre a channel for you to discuss items ? | 17:09 |
sil2100 | Since we did have a few core-dev applications that just went through smoothly, with all permissions given on the same day | 17:09 |
rbasak | Yes, the straightforward ones are pretty quick. | 17:09 |
rbasak | On another note, I feel that we barely made quorum on almost every meeting. | 17:10 |
czajkowski | rbasak: is there a way to move things to email as I know it's hard to get everyone online at one time | 17:10 |
belkinsa | Is it because we all have lives or is there another problem? | 17:10 |
sil2100 | I apologize for this week, I actually joined the DMB meeting place a few minutes before it starting but then got preempted by life | 17:10 |
rbasak | czajkowski: we have a private channel, but don't use it much. | 17:10 |
czajkowski | I know online meetings like this are useful but you can see even now it's hard to get all the CC online | 17:10 |
czajkowski | sil2100: life is very complicated at times ;) | 17:11 |
belkinsa | Indeed, we only have two of us here at the meeting. | 17:11 |
sil2100 | I guess ;) | 17:11 |
rbasak | czajkowski: we can defer to the ML, yes. I don't think we've had to do that yet. We would have had to at the last meeting had the applicant also not forgotten to show :) | 17:11 |
czajkowski | rbasak: so we in the CC have a channel we idle in and that has really helped over the last few years to get togeter catch up and leave feedback | 17:11 |
czajkowski | mayeb to encouraage folks to become more idle on there? | 17:11 |
belkinsa | +1 on the idle idea | 17:12 |
* rbasak idles in there already | 17:12 | |
micahg | well, I still need to process the doodle poll results for meeting times, that should help with quorum | 17:12 |
czajkowski | rbasak: yes that can be hard, we do try and reach out adn send reminders, but again life kicks in, do you email out before hand to remind people | 17:12 |
rbasak | It's much easier for me though, since I'm full time paid by Canonical to be on IRC basically. | 17:12 |
sil2100 | rbasak: what's the channel name? I'm a newbie and probably missed the channel name somewhere | 17:12 |
rbasak | sil2100: #ubuntu-dmb | 17:12 |
czajkowski | what has helped the CC this last few months is having our meetings in a google calendar we can subscribe to and get notifications | 17:12 |
sil2100 | rbasak: could you invite me? It seems invite-only ;) | 17:13 |
sil2100 | rbasak: thanks! | 17:13 |
belkinsa | micahg: Are you, as a team, working on getting a better time/date to reach the quotem? | 17:13 |
micahg | yes | 17:13 |
rbasak | sil2100: I need to figure out how to do that :) | 17:13 |
belkinsa | micahg: I see. | 17:13 |
micahg | rbasak: I'll take care of it | 17:13 |
rbasak | Thanks! | 17:13 |
czajkowski | Is there anything the CC can do to help or improve with ? | 17:14 |
sil2100 | czajkowski: we also have a calendar with all the meetings scheduled, and it does seem to help to some extent | 17:14 |
rbasak | sil2100: we do? :) | 17:14 |
* rbasak has his own calendar entries | 17:14 | |
belkinsa | You can have one that can send out reminders to the Mailing-list when there is a meeting. Like I did for this one. | 17:14 |
sil2100 | rbasak: yes! I thought I added you there, hmm | 17:14 |
sil2100 | http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars/fridge/ | 17:14 |
sil2100 | rbasak: yeah, looks like you're added there, at least your @ubuntu.com account | 17:15 |
sil2100 | I proceeded as per the fridge instructions, might have messed up something but so far it worked fine for me ;p | 17:15 |
rbasak | sil2100: maybe it needs to be my @canonical.com account, as that's what Google thinks I am. But don't worry about it - I have my own entries that seem to work. We can figure out something if/when we change our times. | 17:16 |
czajkowski | so in general things are going well with the DMB ? | 17:16 |
rbasak | Is there anything the CC can do to help or improve with> I can't think of anything, thanks. Unless someone else can? | 17:16 |
czajkowski | my only thinking would be if you could or maybe you do and I am not seeing it annouce new members? | 17:17 |
rbasak | czajkowski: I'd say so. I'd like to do better in terms of delays for some applicants after approval, but I think we're on an improving trend | 17:17 |
czajkowski | do you? | 17:17 |
rbasak | It's in our post-meeting chair checklist. I'm not sure how well it is actually getting performed (we have a rotating chair). | 17:17 |
rbasak | Perhaps we should add it as a specific meeting action. | 17:18 |
czajkowski | rbasak: it would be great to see it posting to the fridge or even on planet.u.c so the ubuntu newsletter could get an update - I know pleia2 is always looking for new content | 17:20 |
czajkowski | I think that would raise the profile of the DMB and applications | 17:20 |
micahg | yeah, I'm notorious for forgetting to do that :( | 17:20 |
rbasak | czajkowski: agreed. We should do something to make sure this happens. | 17:20 |
belkinsa | Maybe use Trello? | 17:21 |
rbasak | We're quite good at carrying forward meeting actions, and nominating a DMB member to handle an applicant approval, so what if we wrote up a "new approved applicant checklist" and created an actual meeting action to complete that checklist? | 17:22 |
rbasak | Trello works too if everyone is happy with that. | 17:22 |
czajkowski | rbasak: fantastic :) | 17:22 |
czajkowski | thanks | 17:22 |
czajkowski | I think that would be great for all to see new applications and community activity. | 17:22 |
belkinsa | rbasak: that also works. | 17:22 |
sil2100 | Yeah, I was wondering recently what happened to that | 17:23 |
rbasak | I'll add an item to the agenda of the next meeting to decide what we want to do to solve this. | 17:23 |
sil2100 | Since I remember new members being announced in the past | 17:23 |
rbasak | (done) | 17:24 |
sil2100 | rbasak: thanks! | 17:24 |
czajkowski | Thank you :) | 17:25 |
czajkowski | is there anything else we can help with ? | 17:25 |
rbasak | I guess not. | 17:27 |
rbasak | Thank you for your time! I think it was useful to catch up with you. I appreciate it must take a while to get round every team. | 17:27 |
belkinsa | And thank you for coming. | 17:28 |
sil2100 | How often do such catch-ups happen for a selected team? | 17:28 |
belkinsa | I think once or twice a cycle. | 17:28 |
sil2100 | Ok, was just curious, thanks :) | 17:29 |
sil2100 | And thank you for your time! | 17:29 |
belkinsa | Not a problem. | 17:29 |
czajkowski | once a cycle | 17:29 |
czajkowski | #topic Desktop | 17:31 |
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czajkowski | anyone here from the Desktop team ? | 17:31 |
belkinsa | If not, we can reschedule the meeting. Can't we? | 17:32 |
belkinsa | #chair mhall119 | 17:32 |
meetingology | Current chairs: belkinsa czajkowski mhall119 | 17:32 |
czajkowski | sure | 17:34 |
mhall119 | will's not online, I pinged seb128 but no reply yet | 17:34 |
belkinsa | Alright, I already added it to here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda | 17:34 |
czajkowski | belkinsa: need to add lubuntu also | 17:35 |
czajkowski | #endmeeting | 17:35 |
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meetingology | Meeting ended Thu Jul 21 17:35:52 2016 UTC. | 17:35 |
meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2016/ubuntu-meeting.2016-07-21-16.59.moin.txt | 17:35 |
czajkowski | thanks folks | 17:35 |
belkinsa | Thanks everyone for coming. | 17:36 |
belkinsa | czajkowski: Lubuntu is already added. | 17:36 |
belkinsa | czajkowski: check-mate :D | 17:36 |
sil2100 | o/ | 17:38 |
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