[06:36] <flocculant> knome: having trouble logging into x.org - torrent links are wrong on getxubuntu
[06:36] <flocculant> Unit193: no I wasn't :p
[06:41] <flocculant> knome: forget that - seems login is jittery ... all done
[07:06] <Unit193> flocculant: Got an email about -core.
[07:07] <Unit193> There's the link.
[07:58] <knome> flocculant, okay, i'll forget :P
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[11:31] <flocculant> knome: if I get the same again I guess I ought to go to IS 
[13:55] <knome> flocculant, try cleaning cache first if it reappears
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[16:00] <flocculant> knome: I tried logging right out of sso - seems to have sorted it
[16:24] <flocculant> ochosi: just a mention here cos I know how you are with how things look ... grabbed new tbird from yak -proposed and it looks like this > http://i.imgur.com/Ikwp9uR.png
[16:25] <flocculant> which isn't dissimilar from the LO stuff you replaced with 'elementary'
[16:28] <flocculant> knome: ok - so the community council have now had 4 weeks, we've heard nothing since one said they were looking in the 3rd week
[16:28] <flocculant> !team | I think we should just move on with the council idea now
[16:28] <ubottu> I think we should just move on with the council idea now: akxwi-dave, bluesabre, dkessel, flocculant, jjfrv8, knome, krytarik, micahg, Noskcaj, ochosi, pleia2, slickymaster and Unit193
[16:29] <flocculant> the hard bit's done - all we need to do now is change the section of strategy doc and then get a council sorted 
[16:31] <flocculant> to be honest I only thought we should cc the CC in because it was called a council - they had no input on xpl
[16:31] <flocculant> and trying to be polite :)
[16:31] <Unit193> Problem?
[16:38] <flocculant> Unit193: not at all - just think we should move it all along now
[16:38] <flocculant> they've had long enough to at least comment :)
[16:39] <pleia2> it is disappointing that it's taking so long :(
[16:39] <flocculant> pleia2: yup
[16:40] <pleia2> I'm not looped in, but maybe one final email saying we're moving forward?
[16:40] <flocculant> a response other than 'we're looking' 3 weeks ago
[16:40] <flocculant> pleia2: as long as that doesn't then entail waiting another month ;)
[16:40] <flocculant> at least it's the post-lts cycle \o/ 
[16:42] <flocculant> mhall119: ^^ 
[16:42] <flocculant> there - that's as good as an e-mail :D
[16:42] <Unit193> They're all on IRC, poke 'em all. :P
[16:42] <davmor2> flocculant: do you know how hard it is to find a distant star that hasn't been name it takes a while of looking ;)
[16:42] <flocculant> Unit193: yup - but one is in here :D
[16:42] <flocculant> davmor2: heh
[16:43] <davmor2> Unit193: this isn't pokemon go you know 
[16:43] <flocculant> phew
[16:44]  * flocculant had an idjit walk in front of him doing that stupid
[16:44] <flocculant> davmor2 should remember we do have an -offtopic to take the mickey :p
[16:46] <mhall119> flocculant: sorry, we did a round of email-voting, I think we haven't heard from all members yet, but those that did respond were all +1
[16:46] <mhall119> so I think we can all start planning the steps for implementing this change
[16:46] <flocculant> mhall119: thanks for responding :)
[16:46]  * davmor2 take the mickey I've never been so offended.........wait is that the right word........no...........pleased with myself in a long time ;)
[16:47] <mhall119> flocculant: I'll send out a formal email, where do you want it sent?
[16:47] <flocculant> mhall119: frankly our plan is now to transfer the wording from the mail lists to replace the XPL section of http://docs.xubuntu.org/contributors/xsd.html 
[16:48] <flocculant> mhall119: send it to pasi, CC me please
[16:48] <flocculant> then we'll do the next bits 
[16:48] <mhall119> ack
[16:48] <flocculant> thanks Michael
[16:49] <flocculant> mhall119: basically we'll be replacing that xpl bit with council bit 
[16:50] <flocculant> mhall119: it would help us enormously if CC realises that once we've done that, if you want some sort of change - we are also wanting to replace XPL asap - as we don't really have one currently
[16:50] <flocculant> although ochosi is listed - he's doing that so we have someone in control - what he really wants is the council sorted out
[16:51] <mhall119> flocculant: not sure I follow, do you need the CC's help in replacing the XPL? Or in recruiting members to the new council?
[16:54] <flocculant> mhall119: no not at all - we just need the CC to read and respond sooner rather than after we ping people :) 
[16:54] <flocculant> all the real stuff is done :)
[16:56] <mhall119> flocculant: email sent
[16:56] <flocculant> cheers
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[20:04] <ochosi> flocculant: that looks ok, no? or what would be the problem..?
[20:15] <knome> just forwarded mhall119's mail to the devel list as i see no reason not to
[20:17] <knome> mhall119, as i see it, i don't think we need any help from CC in the practical side of it, just the ack
[21:14] <flocculant> ochosi: that's fine then - just thought I would mention it - looks to me much the same as the thinh which was default in LO for a while
[21:16] <flocculant> sifr
[21:18] <flocculant> http://i.imgur.com/4nRN6E3.png
[21:23] <flocculant> which we didn't like ;)
[21:38] <ochosi> oh right, well i think thunderbird has its own icon themes and i don't use it personally, so i have extremely little incentive to make one :)
[21:39] <ochosi> i also thought it had looked like that for a while already, but then again i don't use thunderbird anymore
[21:40] <ochosi> flocculant: ^
[21:52] <flocculant> ochosi: works for me - I just thought I would tell you is all :)
[21:53] <flocculant> I've really got no bones in this fire at all
[22:04] <flocculant> mail to list just setting out what's needed for pleia2's archive
[22:12] <flocculant> imo of course
[22:51] <Unit193> ochosi: You still there, sparky?
[22:56] <Unit193> ochosi: Not sure you've seen Debian 829155, but very related.
[22:56] <ubottu> Debian bug 829155 in murrine-themes "murrine-themes: Please split into separate packages" [Wishlist,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/829155