[03:31] <Bashing-om> Enough is enoug .. Gnite.
[06:35] <ducasse> good morning, all
[09:36] <daftykins> \o
[09:36]  * daftykins flips around the other side of the clock
[09:58] <ducasse> hi daftykins, any plans for today?
[09:59] <daftykins> mmm domestic chores i think, i also have a new Dell XPS13 9350 to reinstall for a client, but the next windows 10 build comes out on the 2nd of August so not much point doing it now other than for fun ;)
[09:59] <daftykins> how about yourself?
[10:00] <ducasse> not really, i'm trying to find someone who sells keyboards with mechanical cherry switches in international layouts - not easy :-(
[10:01] <daftykins> ooh, which layout do you require? i just ordered one recently as my das keyboard has been irritating me with dropping some vowel presses
[10:01] <daftykins> but i'm simple and only want a UK layout
[10:01] <ducasse> i'd _love_ a das keyboard, but i'm so used to norwegian layout.
[10:02] <daftykins> i had the blank one :)
[10:02] <ducasse> i _ca_ handle us, but...
[10:02] <ducasse> _can_
[10:02] <daftykins> ah US is evil, they put the |\ above enter - and have that nasty single row enter
[10:03] <ducasse> yes, but i've owned a lot of old unix workstations with us layout, so it's in muscle memory like the norwegian layout.
[10:04] <daftykins> aww, corrupted!
[10:04] <daftykins> >:)
[10:05] <ducasse> i bought a razer black widow a while back, since that was available in my layout and the switches are nice, but a couple of keys hang a little. they tend to send two keys on one press.
[10:05]  * ducasse wants his NeXTStation back
[10:05] <daftykins> ouch that'd be as annoying as my das dropping the 'o'
[10:06] <ducasse> the razer cost a fortune, and i only bought it a year ago. needless to say i'm not getting another.
[10:07] <daftykins> https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01F1VKG8S/ i have this on order right now
[10:08] <ducasse> ah, steelseries use cherry? that could be an option - i've seen those here. thanks :)
[10:08] <ducasse> have you tried them?
[10:08] <daftykins> yep cherry red in there
[10:09] <daftykins> i've only had blue on my das, so i'm not sure how it'll be - more of a 'gaming' choice allegedly
[10:10] <ducasse> hmm. yes, i was hoping for blue, but maybe they have that as well. the razer is also a gaming keyboard, but just fine except for the hanging keys thing.
[10:10] <daftykins> sadly not in that model, mmm
[10:10] <daftykins> last time i bought my das many years ago it was from www.getdigital.de - you could have a browse there :)
[10:11] <daftykins> i'm sure they'd sell a US layout das with blue, which could be one choice
[10:12] <ducasse> yes, us layout is my fallback. but as you say it's evil :)
[10:12] <daftykins> :D
[10:14] <ducasse> uk layout could also be interesting, though, i didn't think of that first.
[10:16] <daftykins> run with the cool kids! *whistle* - no bias whatsoever
[10:16] <ducasse> which model das keyboard do you have?
[10:19] <daftykins> it says "DASK3" on the back and was an ultimate, so blank - probably 7+ years old
[10:19] <daftykins> quite a long time but i still feel they should last longer
[10:20] <ducasse> +1. these switches can handle >50m keystrokes.
[10:21] <daftykins> the keys it drops changes per day, so i think it's the controller board - but it's nothing i can do anything about, it seems
[10:21] <ducasse> i'm looking at the 4 pro and the model s pro, the 4 pro has two usb 3.0 ports, which could be nice, i guess.
[10:22] <ducasse> not that i _need_ two 3.0 ports when my desktop is ~30cm away :)
[10:22] <daftykins> i could've always done without the hub :> i used to have power up issues until they shipped me a free USB 'Y' cable
[10:23] <ducasse> when i think about it, i think my keyboard came with 1 year warranty...
[10:24] <ducasse> these also look nice - http://codekeyboards.com/
[10:25] <ducasse> in swedish layout, that's pretty close.
[10:26] <daftykins> :>
[10:28] <ducasse> the only difference is the øæå keys, the swedes use öäå instead. minor difference, really. i could live with that :)
[10:33] <ducasse> the xps13 is a terrible thing to waste on windows 10, btw ;)
[10:34] <daftykins> it's not, since no Linux can run properly on it without Dell PPAs
[10:34] <ducasse> urgh :-(
[10:34] <daftykins> and all Linux distros on nice laptops trash the battery life.
[10:34] <daftykins> 2~,
[10:34] <daftykins> ,
[10:34] <daftykins> ,,
[10:34] <daftykins> ,,,
[10:34] <daftykins> ~~~
[10:34] <daftykins> oops sorry, keyboard clean
[10:35] <ducasse> :)
[10:39] <daftykins> i'm having to get by on a membrane Dell cheapy for now :(
[10:39] <ducasse> laptops and linux don't play well together, it's sad. probably hard to fix.
[10:40] <daftykins> yeah, you need the 4.6 kernel i think for skylake to be happy, too - and certainly no ubuntu has that out of the box
[10:41] <ducasse> no, i deliberately did not buy skylake when i bought a new desktop last summer, didn't feel like being a guinea pig.
[10:42] <daftykins> that's a very sad reflection on Linux when you feel the need to avoid the bleeding edge
[10:42] <ducasse> yup, i just wanted something that worked. still, i'm perfectly happy with the machine :)
[10:44] <daftykins> aaah glorious clean desk \o/
[10:45] <ducasse> yay! \o/
[10:47] <daftykins> i treated myself recently with the replacement of my core 2 quad Q6600 desktop, now running a skylake i7-6700, 32GB DDR4, NVMe M.2 SSD and just recently an nvidia GTX 1070 8GB graphics card to cap it off
[10:48] <ducasse> oooh, nice :) mine's just 4790k, 32g ddr3 and 2x samsung 850 evo sata..
[10:50] <daftykins> ^_^ probably very little between them
[10:50] <ducasse> the 6700 wasn't out when i bought mine, so i got the best single-core performance i could, which was the 4790k. it's plenty fast for me.
[10:52] <ducasse> i don't have a discrete gpu, though, so your graphics performance just *might* be a teeeny bit better.
[10:52] <ducasse> :-P
[10:52] <daftykins> ^_^
[10:53] <daftykins> that reminds me, now there are 1,920 cores there i was going to install folding@home to see just how impressively quick it handles some GPU compute jobs now
[10:55] <ducasse> nvidia has linux sw for video encoding, don't they?
[10:55] <daftykins> not sure
[10:55] <ducasse> think i saw that mentioned somewhere.
[11:03] <daftykins> the name nvenc rings a bell but i don't know what platforms it's on
[11:04] <ducasse> that's one thing i'd like a decent gpu for, as it would probably be a lot faster than using the cpu. sw support is a problem, though.
[11:17] <daftykins> i'm waiting for some software to catch up as it is, as my video player of choice doesn't know my card can do hardware decode of everything now :D
[11:17] <daftykins> got some high bitrate HEVC samples here
[11:18] <ducasse> which player are you using?
[11:19] <daftykins> MPC-HC
[11:20] <daftykins> mmm vacuuming in a warm house, eek
[11:43] <ducasse> not fun, i did all the domestic stuff yesterday so today i'll just refuse to do all the other stuff i should have done long ago.
[11:43] <daftykins> :D
[11:44] <ducasse> i'm an idjit, btw, didn't consider just getting a nice keyboard with us layout and replace the keycaps...
[12:02] <ducasse> daftykins: /me found! wasdkeyboards.com has mechanical keyboards, any kind of cherry switch, 105-key, any layout you want :) they can even get me one with tux on the windows keys :)
[12:02] <ducasse> *happy dance*
[12:03] <daftykins> *super keys ;)
[12:03] <ducasse> whatever, i just think of it as mod4 ;)
[12:05] <daftykins> platform agnostic \o/
[12:10] <ducasse> this was so much easier than i thought i'm actually a bit sceptical ;) need to check a couple of reviews, see what the build quality is like...
[12:17] <daftykins> seems to be US, so shipping might not be fun?
[12:20] <ducasse> should be fine, i think. had some stuff shipped from the us around easter, took less than a week via normal airmail.
[12:24] <BluesKaj> howdy all
[12:25] <daftykins> \o
[15:29] <pauljw_vm> Hi everyone
[15:30] <daftykins> heya \o
[15:31] <OerHeks> :-)
[15:31] <pauljw_vm> :)
[15:31] <ducasse> greetings and salutations! :)
[15:31] <pauljw_vm> hi ducasse