| tsimonq2 | agaida: bump the bug report with my patch then | 00:25 |
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| tsimonq2 | agaida: and talk to Julien! | 00:25 |
| agaida | we have one problem - julien think he is right | 00:25 |
| agaida | and this is more important for him than easy maintainance and possible bugs | 00:26 |
| agaida | so what should i do? I'm only a outsider with a very strong opinion - and the plan was that we do the things upstream and they go into the repository unchanged | 00:27 |
| agaida | and to be honest - every not really needed change is bullshit and error prone - and that for a reason | 00:28 |
| tsimonq2 | sorry | 00:28 |
| tsimonq2 | but I see | 00:28 |
| tsimonq2 | I'll bump it | 00:29 |
| tsimonq2 | thank you for bringing this up to me, I'll get it handled | 00:29 |
| agaida | if one without this special knowledge import upstream - without the changes - this will create havoc | 00:29 |
| agaida | and this is happend in the past and ever will happen again | 00:30 |
| agaida | so we had two bets - a) we will do everything to make julien happy or b) we will do what we think is the best | 00:31 |
| agaida | (we as debian upstream) - please guess what we will do | 00:32 |
| tsimonq2 | I see | 00:32 |
| agaida | and we are happy if bugs - or patches come from ubuntu - this is happend in the past from vorlon (architectural changes and symbol changes) and we merged them without any problems | 00:33 |
| tsimonq2 | vorlon \o/ | 00:34 |
| agaida | because the changes make sense for both parties | 00:34 |
| tsimonq2 | I see | 00:34 |
| agaida | yeah - steve is a good one - and i will never forget that he was the cause that i'm fixed systemd on a silvester evening :D | 00:35 |
| agaida | so we have no problems with good changes - but i think we have a problem with bikeshedding and such things | 00:36 |
| tsimonq2 | yeah | 00:38 |
| agaida | and to be true - i have some problems with the two remainig changes - both on central points: the changes in lxqt-session is great to shoot on or both feets - in it will happen sooner or later | 00:39 |
| agaida | and we talked about liblxqt - best bet would be to take debian unchanged - and if this cause problems, solve these problems in debian (like eventually needed breaks and replaces) | 00:42 |
| agaida | and another word regarding the session thing - julien is right, it's not clever and his solution is better - in theory | 00:42 |
| tsimonq2 | alright | 00:42 |
| tsimonq2 | yeah I saw the solution | 00:43 |
| tsimonq2 | it was something I didn't want to touch | 00:43 |
| agaida | but it is not clever as it will break when we clean up this mess in LXQt - and that will be happen some weeks or month after the release | 00:43 |
| agaida | but it will happen | 00:43 |
| tsimonq2 | agaida: ping me when the breakage is about to happen and I'll talk with Julien | 00:45 |
| tsimonq2 | ask him why | 00:45 |
| agaida | the session/common mess is long standing - no one clean up this shit after the merger razorqt/lxde | 00:45 |
| tsimonq2 | yeah | 00:45 |
| agaida | and this was introduced because in the beginning the whole razor was one big repository | 00:46 |
| agaida | so after the merge the repos was splitted up and the rest that no one take care or becomes common - long story short | 00:47 |
| agaida | s/or/of | 00:47 |
| agaida | but i think we will find a clean solution and a clean upgrade path - and we should not make things more complicated | 00:49 |
| agaida | in the meantime | 00:49 |
| tsimonq2 | yeah | 00:51 |
| tsimonq2 | wxl: re: broken torrents, this is why it's good to read Reddit comments... https://www.reddit.com/r/Lubuntu/comments/4txypi/lubuntu_16041_lts_has_been_released/d5nrwhs | 00:52 |
| tsimonq2 | agaida: a Reddit user reported that the Lubuntu torrents are broken and indeed they are, yay... | 00:53 |
| agaida | and i destroyed today the gogs database for siduction - that was cool | 00:53 |
| tsimonq2 | \o/ | 00:54 |
| tsimonq2 | :P | 00:54 |
| agaida | 100+ git repositories to migrate by hand | 00:54 |
| tsimonq2 | O__O | 00:54 |
| agaida | a fucking typo in a script | 00:54 |
| Unit193 | tsimonq2: Or, you could update the link to the torrent for the point release too... | 00:54 |
| agaida | but its done | 00:54 |
| tsimonq2 | Unit193: I don't have the permissions | 00:54 |
| tsimonq2 | Unit193: but I pinged infinity | 00:54 |
| Unit193 | And infinity can update lubuntu.net how? | 00:56 |
| tsimonq2 | Unit193: lubuntu.net is NOT our website | 00:57 |
| tsimonq2 | Unit193: lubuntu.me is | 00:58 |
| Unit193 | Yeah yeah, same thing. Used to real TLDs, same statement applies to .me. | 00:58 |
| tsimonq2 | well that's actually a good idea, I should updated that | 00:59 |
| tsimonq2 | *update | 00:59 |
| tsimonq2 | Unit193: but regardless, that torrent doesn't work | 00:59 |
| Unit193 | Try the correct torrent? | 00:59 |
| * tsimonq2 tries | 01:00 | |
| Unit193 | It's pretty darn normal when a point release is out, the prior point (or pointless) release isn't on the tracker... | 01:01 |
| tsimonq2 | works fine | 01:01 |
| tsimonq2 | Unit193: but regardless...it's broken | 01:02 |
| Unit193 | Define 'it'. | 01:02 |
| tsimonq2 | the torrents for 16.04 | 01:03 |
| tsimonq2 | Unit193: it's also a pretty major thing because we didn't release PPC for 6.04.1 but we did for 16.04 | 01:03 |
| tsimonq2 | *16.04.1 | 01:03 |
| tsimonq2 | some people still might want PPC | 01:03 |
| tsimonq2 | Unit193: there, updated | 01:10 |
| tsimonq2 | http://lubuntu.me/downloads/ | 01:10 |
| kalxas | hi all, I am looking for the build scripts that are used to generate the Lubuntu iso images. Can someone please point me to the source code? | 10:14 |
| tsimonq2 | kalxas: hey | 10:16 |
| kalxas | hi tsimonq2 | 10:16 |
| tsimonq2 | kalxas: infinity in #ubuntu-release linked it to me the other day | 10:16 |
| tsimonq2 | now that I have time, I'll search my IRC logs :) | 10:16 |
| kalxas | cool, thanks :) | 10:16 |
| kalxas | I did find some source code in launchpad yesterday, but that was until utopic | 10:17 |
| kalxas | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop/+junk/lubuntu-tools/view/head:/iso/lubuntu-build.sh | 10:18 |
| kalxas | so I am looking specifically for xenial sources | 10:18 |
| kalxas | the reason is to find the difference | 10:19 |
| kalxas | it seems that the usb-creator util is now doing a plain dd copy of the iso to the usb key, so I need to figure out how boot loader is handled | 10:19 |
| tsimonq2 | bingo | 10:21 |
| tsimonq2 | lp:~ubuntu-cdimage/debian-cd/ubuntu | 10:21 |
| tsimonq2 | kalxas: ^ | 10:21 |
| kalxas | thanks tsimonq2 ! | 10:23 |
| * kalxas looking | 10:23 | |
| kalxas | tsimonq2, still, there is no lubuntu branch in there | 10:31 |
| kalxas | actually there is one which is outdated | 10:31 |
| tsimonq2 | kalxas: it's not a Lubuntu-specific branch you are looking for | 10:43 |
| tsimonq2 | you need to know how the images are built | 10:43 |
| tsimonq2 | daily and daily-live | 10:43 |
| kalxas | I am obviously not aware of the process :) | 10:46 |
| kalxas | thank you for your patience | 10:47 |
| kalxas | is this also being used? it seems up to date: | 10:50 |
| kalxas | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cdimage/ubuntu-cdimage/mainline/files | 10:50 |
| tsimonq2 | well if I remember correctly, that calls the server that runs lp:~ubuntu-cdimage/debian-cd/ubuntu | 10:51 |
| kalxas | ah, cool | 10:52 |
| kalxas | tsimonq2, any idea how long has this code base being used? | 10:53 |
| tsimonq2 | long time | 10:53 |
| kalxas | I will have to browse history then to figure out what happened with the boot loader | 10:54 |
| kalxas | ok, thank you very much for your help | 10:54 |
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