[02:06] good morning to all [02:08] !info linux-image-generic [02:08] linux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 4.4.0.31.33 (xenial), package size 2 kB, installed size 11 kB === JanC is now known as Guest15956 === JanC_ is now known as JanC [05:23] Description: Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS [06:34] morning! [06:36] hey ducasse [06:37] how are you? [06:37] good thanks - and you? enjoying a quiet sunday morning? [06:37] yep got to work at 11 [06:38] aha, i see. no rest for the wicked ;) [06:40] :p [06:41] upgraded to .1 [06:41] me too, but i've still got one machine on wily. should try to fix that today... [06:42] cool [09:53] * daftykins carries in his cereal with his eyes still closed [09:53] * ducasse hands daftykins a cup of espresso [09:53] ooh ty [09:54] speaking of, need more tea. [09:54] i was thinking that, need to do a milk run in a moment [09:57] ahh, there we go :) caffeine <3 [10:00] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qh91IO9cV48 i found this neat [10:19] interesting :) just been reading through the world's longest log dump for a guy, and suddenly he doesn't want to investigate further and logs off :-/ [10:21] oy [10:31] do you know much about web server daemons, by any chance? i need to set one up on my vps, just wondering which one has the best security track record... [10:34] most of my experience has been basic setups for wordpress LAMP setups, where i stuck to apache2, i tried out nginx recently but was a bit disappointed when it didn't even have the apache tools for automating the symlinks to enable sites and modules [10:35] hadn't tried to 'harden' nginx in any way, but i've gotten by with apache - just needs tweaking to reduce its' many worker count and default config to hide version # and so on [10:36] i'm mostly going to serve static pages and files, to use as a sort of personal dumping ground to share files. i was thinking of lighttpd, since this vps has a limited amount of memory and such. [10:36] ah right [10:37] i run a little home one in 384MB RAM... LAMP with a basic wordpress + this irssi instance [10:39] actually, the vps has 1gb of memory, but it's primarily doing other things so the web setup would still need to be very light... [10:50] how does the mem usage sit right now? [10:53] pretty good, a little under half available, but it was just rebooted. [10:56] ah well, probably makes sense to avoid full blown apache - but i've not tried that one [10:58] i wasn't really thinking that much about memory usage, more about security. in my mind, apache might have a bigger attack surface than something like lighttpd, but i could be entirely wrong. [10:59] yeah, you don't wanna dip into swap though :D it could do, depending on default modules i suppose [11:01] think i'll just try lighttpd first, as it should be more than adequate for my needs. i could probably whip up something that would do what i need in a few lines of python, even :) [11:03] ^_^ [11:03] ugh i feel like i should get a clear plastic sheet to cover my keyboard, this house seems to be a dust machine [11:04] try one of those sealed, industrial keyboards :) [11:05] hah [11:07] would probably not be very comfortable to type on, though. [11:08] have you ever seen those laser ones that cast a pattern onto the desk, then somehow it registers you touching the spots? [11:09] yes, but i can't imagine i would like them. need the tactile feedback. looks cool, though :) [11:10] yeah, i imagine latency too [11:10] i got told about an industry situation where the staff kept damaging keyboards though, so they put in one of them instead [11:12] i'm _much_ too picky about mice and keyboards. [11:12] hard to find one i like :) [11:13] <\9> i'm sort of trying to find one that i would like [11:13] <\9> the usual keyboard layout doesn't have enough keys for my needs [11:14] <\9> the finnish keyboard layout sucks for coding so i have to xmodmap the layout a tad [11:14] <\9> i still need to use alt+gr t o get backspace [11:14] \9: check out the ones i were talking to daftykins about yesterday - wasdkeyboards.com - they have a lot of variations. dunno about extra keys, though, i'll miss that from my current one. [11:16] i'm fine with the default UK layout, extra keys is something i detest [11:18] <\9> i need the ä and ö keys though, it's slightly inconvenient to use the compose ke for them all the time [11:18] <\9> thanks ducasse i will check that out [11:19] \9: they have at least 88 104 and 105-key ones, in just about any layout you want, you can choose switches and colors for caps and print etc. basically fully custom :) [11:21] <\9> so i see [11:26] <\9> hmm neat, i can edit the layout as svg [11:27] yep, thinking of ordering one myself to replace my razer. i like my current keyboard, but a couple of the keys send several characters when pressed... [11:27] <\9> i still want my 106th key thouhg :( [11:28] <\9> though* [11:31] seems to me like if you can't fit into the standard layouts everyone else does, something you're doing is wrong. [11:34] i do just fine with a 105-key layout. my razer has 5 'macro keys' on the left side, i have them mapped to various things but honestly don't use them that much... [14:57] Hi all [14:58] \o [15:02] hey daftykins [15:06] afternoon, BluesKaj - everything well? [15:07] daftykins: i (sort of) fixed my keyboard :) [15:08] hi ducasse, yeah I'm trying setup konverstaion to connect thru a socks5 proxy server provided ny my vpn service . but the settings aren't working [15:10] ducasse: \o/ [15:10] BluesKaj: how/what is failing? it just won't connect? [15:11] scuse my KB mistakes ...it's suddenly very dark...storms approaching [15:11] again [15:11] daftykins: it's not 100%, but much better :) i'll try prying off the keycaps and go over it with pressurized air later. [15:12] :) [15:12] i'm still suffering with the membrane here ;_; [15:12] yeah the asimov, weber and kornbluth servers just fail with unknown error [15:14] odd. freenode is sponsored by pia iirc, so they shouldn't be blocking vpn traffic either... has konversation got a network log or console? [15:15] is that SSL connection or non? [15:19] daftykins, I tried it with and without ssl sasl, different port numbers etc etc, but nothing , even the logs don't show anything [15:19] hrmm [15:20] well SOCKS is typically a browser thing only i thought, so i'd be more inclined to go back to making the VPN work properly [15:21] vpn works fine , but I prefer not to use the vpn unless needed and I'd just like to have individual apps use the proxy rather than resorting to all internet connections going thru the vpn [15:22] you can always have the vpn tunnel open at all times and just route traffic from certain apps through it. [15:23] the proxy5 setings for pia proxy server in amsterdam works fine on qbittorrent, checking with netstat -tapen shows the IPs qbittorrent is routed thru [15:25] ducasse, that would be good if I knew how to set that up [15:25] i think i have a link somewhere, do you want me to dig for it? [15:26] sure [15:26] yeah that makes sense, you don't have to have your tunnel replace the default gateway [15:26] hang on, it's on a machine in another room. brb. [15:26] right [15:28] http://askubuntu.com/questions/37412/how-can-i-ensure-transmission-traffic-uses-a-vpn [15:29] that's for torrent, but it demonstrates the general idea. [15:30] you start openvpn with --noroute, so you will keep your default route. then route what you want through the tunnel interface. [15:33] there is also a git repo with scripts for deluge: https://github.com/bendikro/deluge-vpn.git [15:33] i imagine that for ease of use on a graphical desktop you'd make a bunch of scripts to run perhaps [15:34] yes, the github link would be a starting point there. [15:36] think it would be simpler to just configure konversation, since does offer the socks5 option === phunyguy is now known as not_phunyguy [15:38] well, if that's the only program you want it for that is possibly true :) [15:39] qbittorrent is already configured and working === not_phunyguy is now known as phunyguy [15:40] right. is there a verbose logging option? [15:46] tail /var/log/$topic_above.log : [15:46] "it dun work" [15:46] "it dun work" [15:52] :) [15:54] something wrong here too, my laptop is 2.6gb into swap with over a gig of memory free... [15:58] D: [15:58] some kinda task that deems itself backgrounded, so swapped out? o0 [16:02] maybe, but i don't know _what_ - not that much running, it only has 4gb. bah, need to reboot anyway, kernel update.