[00:00] <risen> so i have a question that has probably been asked a million times over.. but i;
[00:01] <risen> im running on a pi 2, nd just put the image on the sd card for ubuntuMATE
[00:02] <risen> is it just the pi being this slow or is it the stock config?
[02:42] <david132> Hi' spanish?
[02:43] <david132> Hello,
[03:09] <namnaj> good morning
[06:04] <marcos> buenas noches a todos
[06:06] <Guest59043> resulta que cuando le doy a minimizar a cualquier ventana, esta desaparece y no aparece en la barra de estado/tareas, tengo que darle a ALT+TAB para buscarla nuevamente..no he podido solucionarlo
[06:23] <Guest59043> buenas noches...
[06:23] <Guest59043> necesito ayuda
[09:18] <turtle_> does anyone else have sound issues on mate?
[09:19] <bekks> How does that poll help you solving your sound issues?
[09:19] <turtle_> well if someone else had the same problem we might work something out
[09:20] <turtle_> only headphones work atm
[09:20] <bekks> Then you#'ll be two people with non-working sound.
[09:21] <bekks> Instead of wasting even more time and bandwidth, how about starting to state your actual problem?
[09:21] <turtle_> my sound doesent work, only my headphones output sound, on alsamixer speakers are on max
[09:22] <alkisg> turtle_: try right clicking on the sound applet, then settings, then the hardware tab, and select and test your speakers there
[09:24] <turtle__> my laptop randomly turned off, what did i miss
[09:24] <alkisg> (12:22:25 μμ) alkisg: turtle_: try right clicking on the sound applet, then settings, then the hardware tab, and select and test your speakers there
[09:26] <turtle__> still nothing
[09:26] <alkisg> Which output devices do you see there?
[09:27] <turtle__> built in audio
[09:27] <alkisg> Only one device?
[09:27] <turtle__> yes just 1
[09:27] <alkisg> And which profiles do you see there?
[09:28] <turtle__> do u want me to list all of them
[09:28] <turtle__> ?
[09:28] <alkisg> If you are using the correct one, it's ok
[09:28] <turtle__> analogue stereo output is the one im using now
[09:29] <alkisg> So the audio works from the front output in your case, but not from the output in the back?
[09:30] <turtle_> laptop turned off again sorry
[09:30]  * alkisg wonders if you have more severe issues than the audio :D
[09:31] <alkisg> (12:29:23 μμ) alkisg: So the audio works from the front output in your case, but not from the output in the back?
[09:32] <turtle_> no audio output except headphones work
[09:32] <alkisg> Where do you put the headphones?
[09:32] <alkisg> What happens if you put speakers there?
[09:33] <alkisg> Does it work in other distros/flavors/OSes?
[09:33] <alkisg> Give more info
[09:33] <turtle_> if i plug in headphones audio works, when i take out, speakers not working
[09:33] <turtle_> still
[09:34] <ali1234> turtle_:
[09:34] <turtle_> hm
[09:34] <ali1234> is it a laptop?
[09:34] <turtle_> yes
[09:34] <turtle_> thinkpad x60
[09:34] <alkisg> Ah, sorry, then you mean the internal speakers
[09:34] <turtle_> yes
[09:35] <alkisg> Which kernel do you have? uname -r
[09:35] <ali1234> turtle_:
[09:36] <turtle_> 4.4.0-31-generic
[09:36] <ali1234> install alsa-tools and then run "watch sudo hdajacksensetools"
[09:37] <ali1234> plug / unplug the headphones and observe what happens
[09:37] <alkisg> In the sound settings dialog, in the "output" tab, does it list the internal speakers in the "connector" drop box?
[09:38] <turtle__> laptop turned off randomly again, i will try to fix that first :L
[09:38] <alkisg> (12:37:53 μμ) alkisg: In the sound settings dialog, in the "output" tab, does it list the internal speakers in the "connector" drop box?
[09:39] <turtle__> i see "Speakers"
[09:39] <alkisg> Are they selected when you're testing sound output?
[09:39] <turtle__> yes
[09:40] <alkisg> (12:33:15 μμ) alkisg: Does it work in other distros/flavors/OSes?
[09:40] <alkisg> E.g. did it work in previous versions that had older kernels?
[09:41] <turtle__> im not sure i have only run ubuntu mate on this laptop only on this kernel, just go it
[09:41] <turtle__> got it
[09:41] <alkisg> So it might be a hardware issue?
[09:42] <alkisg> Btw, ali1234 said that, maybe you didn't see it:
[09:42] <turtle__> idk
[09:42] <alkisg> (12:36:25 μμ) ali1234: install alsa-tools and then run "watch sudo hdajacksensetools"
[09:42] <alkisg> (12:37:03 μμ) ali1234: plug / unplug the headphones and observe what happens
[09:42] <turtle__> ok
[09:42] <alkisg> ...although I don't see a command named hdajacksensetools
[09:43] <alkisg> Personally, before troubleshooting more, I'd try an older live cd or even a windows "live cd"
[09:43] <alkisg> ...there's no point in troubleshooting software if it's a hardware issue
[09:43] <turtle__> ok
[09:43] <turtle__> :/
[09:44] <turtle__> i have a custom bios
[09:44] <turtle__> libreboot
[09:44] <turtle__> ill reflash and try again if sound works
[09:48] <alkisg> Yeah that's one of the things you should mention in the beginning, when joining IRC :)
[09:52] <turtle__> rebooting now
[09:56] <turtle_> still no sound after reflash :c
[10:00] <alkisg> turtle_: try a different ubuntu version, or even a different OS, to make sure it's not a hardware issue
[10:01] <turtle_> ubuntu mate is the only os where my laptop doesent constantly beep
[10:01] <turtle_> what program uses alsaconf
[10:01] <turtle_> when i type alsaconf it says not found
[10:11] <turtle_> ill try to see if my external DAC works
[10:46] <fnord_> hi alkisg after install ubu-mate 16.04.1 no update && dist-upgrade requiered. is it right?
[10:48] <fnord_> alkisg, http://paste.ubuntu.com/20730273/
[10:48] <bekks> No, thats not right.
[10:48] <bekks> After an installation, you should install updates as the first step.
[10:49] <bekks> Before installing updates, you should configure package sources to your needs, and then you might get updates the installation process did not even take into account.
[10:53] <fnord_> bekks, sorry, it not works for me an I do not know why?
[10:54] <bekks> What does "not work" for you?
[10:55] <fnord_> I do that not for first time
[10:55] <fnord_> now it does not work
[10:55] <bekks> WHAT does not work?
[10:55] <fnord_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/20730273/
[10:55] <bekks> What does not work in your paste? The output looks perfect.
[10:56] <fnord_> the process of updating
[10:56] <fnord_> after installing
[10:56] <bekks> IT works perfectly, no errors to be seen.
[10:56] <bekks> Why do you suspect it isnt working?
[10:56] <fnord_> moment
[10:57] <fnord_> please
[10:57] <ouroumov> That's just because your system is already up to date fnord_
[10:57] <ouroumov> So there's nothing to be done
[10:57] <bekks> Which is totally different from "does not work".
[10:57] <fnord_> ouroumov, really, great..
[10:57] <ouroumov> ^^
[10:57] <fnord_> bekks, sorry
[10:57] <bekks> Just READ the actual output in your pastebin.
[10:58] <ouroumov> bekks, I suspect fnord_ is rather new at this
[10:59] <fnord_> bekks, :-)
[10:59] <bekks> I know he isnt, since he was around in the german ubuntu channels for quite a long time.
[10:59] <bekks> He isnt updating for the first time :P
[10:59] <fnord_> ouroumov, from day to day I will be better
[10:59] <fnord_> ouroumov, I feel that
[11:00] <fnord_> :-)
[11:45] <fnord_> bekks, ouroumov  First, what I do ever after istalling, is updating.. I did it twice: 1. willcome fenster 2. terminal. Every method leaded to the same result: system is updated.
[11:46] <fnord_> I was very surprised
[11:46] <fnord_> of that
[11:52] <bekks> And why does that lead to your assumption of "does not work" then when it clearly tells that it works fine and no updates had been found?
[12:07] <fnord_> bekks, because I see it for the first time ever after 1410 linux installations.
[12:08] <fnord_> nothing to updade was a surprising for me
[12:17] <bekks> I strongly doubt you did thta much linux installations.
[12:18] <bekks> And with a working internet connection during the install and NO modifications to the sources the outcome is "already updated". Always.
[12:19] <bekks> Hpwever. Your system is up to date.
[13:21] <fnord_> bekks, I got it, thx
[13:23] <hp> in
[13:24] <hp> l
[13:24] <hp> hey
[13:24] <ouroumov> hi
[13:24] <hp> hey there
[13:24] <hp> my name is FoxyTheBoy
[13:24] <hp> you can call me Foxy
[13:25] <hp> oops...
[13:25] <hp> gotta go!
[15:40] <ben_nabiy> How do I get Ubuntu-Mate USB installer to detect UEFI?
[15:41] <ben_nabiy> When I set up my linuxmint installer, it automatically detects that UEFI is available, and I can boot in UEFI mode, but not so with Ubuntu-Mate
[15:41] <ouroumov> afaik you don't have to do anything
[15:41] <ben_nabiy> that is what I thought, but it is not working
[15:41] <ben_nabiy> and my other installer is working
[15:42] <ouroumov> are you manually partitioning?
[15:42] <ben_nabiy> I used the USB Startup Disk
[15:42] <ben_nabiy> forget the name of it
[15:43] <ben_nabiy> I can install in legacy mode, but would rather use UEFI
[15:43] <ben_nabiy> is it possible I have too many UEFI devices, and it is not registering?
 are you manually partitioning?
[15:45] <ouroumov> Anyway.
[15:46] <ouroumov> Check in your Boot menu if you have an UEFI option for your USB device (I mean your BIOS boot menu, not the GRUB boot menu)
[15:50] <ben_nabiy> I am not getting a UEFI option for my boot device (the USB stick) when I do get one for the same stick flashed with linuxmint installer
[15:51] <ouroumov> How are you flashing it? Startup Disk Creator?
[15:51] <ben_nabiy> ouroumov: yes
[15:51] <ouroumov> Okay, I'm not sure what that program's actually doing. Have you tried the more violent "dd" method?
[15:51] <ben_nabiy> ouroumov: I have done this many times in the past and worked fine
[15:52] <ben_nabiy> I am going to check my UEFI again, make sure something didn't get switched around in it
[15:52] <ouroumov> SDC has been stripped of features in recent releases
[15:52] <ben_nabiy> As long as I know it "should work" then I will look for other mistakes on my end
[15:52] <ben_nabiy> that could be
[15:53] <ouroumov> For instance: it doesn't allow for persistence space setup anymore
[15:53] <ben_nabiy> I noticed that
[15:53] <ouroumov> Who knows what else went with that :/
[15:53] <ben_nabiy> perhaps I need to fire up an older version and create it that way
[15:53] <ouroumov> ben_nabiy, can you try the "dd" flashing method before you do that?
[15:54] <ouroumov> If you don't know the method, I can explain
[15:59] <ben_nabiy> ouroumov: dd if=path/to/image of=/dev/blah oflag=direct ?
[15:59] <ouroumov> dd if=/image.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=4M && sync
[16:00] <ouroumov> While being careful not to write the wrong sdX, because if you write sda you'll nuke your system
[16:00] <ben_nabiy> ouroumov: you assume I am installed to /dev/sda :)
[16:00] <ouroumov> right
[16:00] <ouroumov> whateveer before that identify your USB drive using lsblk or df -h
[16:01] <ben_nabiy> ouroumov: be careful about asserting things like that because someone might not have a standard install.   But thank you for the caution
[16:02] <ben_nabiy> will try things out, back in a bit
[16:08] <ubuntu-mate> hi there
[16:09] <pavlushka> Hi mate!
[16:09] <ubuntu-mate> i trying to install ubuntu mate 16.04 but get error from grup install
[16:09] <ubuntu-mate> and cansel the insatallation
[16:10] <ubuntu-mate> how i can fix
[16:10] <ouroumov> What's the error?
[16:11] <ubuntu-mate> well say fatal error grub many canot insall
[16:13] <pavlushka> ubuntu-mate: can you boot from live CD/USB?
[16:13] <ubuntu-mate> im in live usb
[16:13] <ubuntu-mate> now
[16:13] <ben_nabiy> amazing what a bios flash will do
[16:14] <ben_nabiy> all of a sudden I had UEFI again :)
[16:14] <pavlushka> ubuntu-mate: then run in terminal "sudo -i", and press enter, and then "fdisk -l" and paste it in paste.ubuntu.com and give us the paste link
[16:15] <ben_nabiy> ouroumov: thank you for trying to help :) I don't want you to think I didn't appreciate your imput
[16:15] <ben_nabiy> *input
[16:16] <ubuntu-mate> Device          Start        End    Sectors   Size Type
[16:16] <ubuntu-mate> Disk /dev/sdb: 7.4 GiB, 7906263040 bytes, 15441920 sectors
[16:16] <ubuntu-mate> Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
[16:16] <ubuntu-mate> Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[16:16] <ubuntu-mate> I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[16:16] <ubuntu-mate> Disklabel type: gpt
[16:16] <ubuntu-mate> Disk identifier: 57A8AD39-34EF-414A-B0C0-B42E5404AB2D
[16:16] <ubuntu-mate> Device     Start      End  Sectors  Size Type
[16:16] <ubuntu-mate> root@ubuntu-mate:~#
[16:18] <ubuntu-mate> '/dev/sda1        2048     616447     614400   300M Windows recovery environment
[16:18] <ubuntu-mate> '
[16:19] <ubuntu-mate> dev/sda1        2048     616447     614400   300M Windows recovery environment
[16:19] <pavlushka> ubuntu-mate: do you have any other system installed on that machine?
[16:21] <ubuntu-mate> windows
[16:21] <ubuntu-mate> i cant past the disk list some reason
[16:21] <ubuntu-mate> dev/sda2      616448     821247     204800   100M EFI System
[16:21] <ubuntu-mate> dev/sda3      821248    1083391     262144   128M Microsoft reserved
[16:21] <ubuntu-mate> Device          Start        End    Sectors   Size Type
[16:21] <pavlushka> ubuntu-mate: do you want to keep the MS-windows system?
[16:22] <ubuntu-mate> well i like to have windows
[16:22] <ubuntu-mate> to play some game
[16:22]  * pavlushka laughs
[16:23] <ubuntu-mate> \Device          Start        End    Sectors   Size Type
[16:24] <ubuntu-mate> \
[16:24] <ubuntu-mate> dev/sda1        2048     616447     614400   300M Windows recovery environment
[16:24] <ubuntu-mate> dev/sda2      616448     821247     204800   100M EFI System
[16:24] <ubuntu-mate> dev/sda3      821248    1083391     262144   128M Microsoft reserved
[16:24] <ubuntu-mate> dev/sda4     1083392  203880447  202797056  96.7G Microsoft basic data
[16:24] <pavlushka> ubuntu-mate: and your Windows version is?
[16:25] <ubuntu-mate> dev/sda5   203880448  204802047     921600   450M Windows recovery environment
[16:25] <ubuntu-mate> dev/sda6   204802048 1740802047 1536000000 732.4G Microsoft basic data
[16:25] <ubuntu-mate> dev/sda7  1740802048 1938987007  198184960  94.5G Linux filesystem
[16:25] <ubuntu-mate> dev/sda8  1938987008 1953523711   14536704     7G Linux swap
[16:25] <ubuntu-mate> 10
[16:26] <pavlushka> ubuntu-mate: Go to system bios and disable secure boot first.
[16:26] <ubuntu-mate> is disable
[16:26] <pavlushka> ubuntu-mate: and....
[16:27] <ubuntu-mate> well i bin have mate for couple monts
[16:28] <ubuntu-mate> but for some reason last night when i put my laptop on mate no load
[16:28] <pavlushka> ubuntu-mate: side by side with windows?
[16:28] <ubuntu-mate> and i trying to reinstall and give me the error
[16:28] <ubuntu-mate> yes
[16:31] <PartyLine> now i trying again and i passt the error
[16:32] <PartyLine> this time
[16:32] <pavlushka> PartyLine: so, its good?
[16:33] <PartyLine> well we see
[16:33] <PartyLine> half way done
[16:33] <pavlushka> PartyLine: and like to know if you Ubuntu-MATE is 32 or 64 bit?
[16:34] <pavlushka> *your
[16:34] <PartyLine> 64
[16:34] <PartyLine> but i
[16:34] <pavlushka> it should go well I suppose
[16:34] <pavlushka> PartyLine: but ?
[16:35] <PartyLine> but if i cant install the system now im scro i dont have system to donwold another system
[16:36] <pavlushka> PartyLine: Lets see and you have windows! that should do, :p
[16:37] <PartyLine> well with out grup i cant run windows
[16:38] <pavlushka> PartyLine: without GRUB you can, but that's another story.
[16:38] <PartyLine> i anable internet this time to see if any diferent
[16:39] <PartyLine> a i have lenovo z50-75
[16:39] <pavlushka> PartyLine: will depend on your internet speed, the time.
[16:39] <ouroumov> It's usually not, it just takes longer
[16:39] <PartyLine> mate cant found wifi driver
[16:40] <pavlushka> PartyLine: and though with super speed even, it will take a little longer than installing from USB, :)
[16:41] <pavlushka> PartyLine: haven't you enable the option while installing,"install the third party drives" or something like this?
[16:41] <pavlushka> *drivers
[16:41] <pavlushka> *enabled
[16:42] <PartyLine> yes
[16:42] <pavlushka> PartyLine: no problem, we can work on that after install, :)
[16:42] <PartyLine> yes i do now i connect my phone with usb debugin for internet
[16:44] <PartyLine> if we intall
[16:45] <PartyLine> i bin have problem with this commant last time
[16:45] <PartyLine> sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r) git
[16:45] <PartyLine> and i cant insatll git clone
[16:46] <PartyLine> i have ath10k-firmware
[16:49] <pavlushka> PartyLine: you just have to install git.
[16:50] <pavlushka> PartyLine: and then you can use git to clone, see?
[16:51] <pavlushka> PartyLine: and I guess you are talking about this thread https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2303292
[16:58] <PartyLine> with internet i have install complete
[16:58] <pavlushka> and PartyLine  you should take a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[16:58] <pavlushka> for installation issues.
[16:59] <PartyLine> no installation issuse i will restat now
[17:00]  * pavlushka hoping for a successful boot, keeping his fingers crossed.
[17:01] <pavlushka> Hello ouroumov !
[17:01] <ouroumov> hi
[17:01] <pavlushka> ouroumov: please correct me if I make some mistakes, :)
[17:02] <ouroumov> 'bout what? ^^
[17:02] <pavlushka> ouroumov: just in case, you are the backup plan , :p
[17:03] <ouroumov> I'm sorry I gave up on understanding what PartyLine was writing a while ago
[17:04] <pavlushka> ouroumov: no problemo, still you are the backup plan, :p
[17:34] <latitude> need some help setting up a VPN
[17:45] <bekks> First, you need to ask a specific question.
[17:50] <pavlushka> latitude: you can take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VPN
[18:09] <ouroumov> latitude, also the OpenVPN documentation is pretty good.
[18:09] <ouroumov> (If by setting up you mean the server-side)
[18:24] <latitude> thanks for the info. I have lots to read before I ask more question about VPN setup.
[21:14] <megazell> Hey all!
[22:19] <megazell> Hi all. I have a quick issue I am trying to resolve on Ubuntu Mate 16.04.01 64 bit.