DarinMillerplasma still has a few bugs even in 5.7.2.  I don't have any 5.7.2 boxes running dual screen full time but the little testing I've done I sitll see bugs.00:01
tsimonq2hey hey hey!00:07
tsimonq2where do I report bugs in packages in the plasma-staging PPA00:07
clivejostaging-plasma PPA is our testing ground00:09
clivejotsimonq2: whats the bug?00:09
tsimonq2clivejo: so you know the Digital Clock Settings, right?00:10
clivejoDarinMiller: strange, after fiddling about unplugging screens, its come back00:10
clivejotsimonq2: yes00:10
tsimonq2when I went to the Holidays tab, it complains about not having kholidays installed00:10
tsimonq2clivejo: it's either a needed dep or the error needs to be handled better00:11
clivejolooks like a packaging issue :)00:11
DarinMillerclivejo: A plasmashell restart can (but not always) also fix those issues.00:11
tsimonq2clivejo: but I *am* only using plasma-desktop, not kubuntu-desktop00:12
tsimonq2clivejo: maybe it's in the Kubuntu package?00:12
clivejotry installing qml-module-org-kde-kholidays00:13
* clivejo bangs head off the desk00:17
clivejotsimonq2: did you do that?00:19
tsimonq2clivejo: E: Unable to locate package qml-module-org-kde-kholidays00:20
clivejohave you staging-plasma PPA enabled and refreshed?00:20
tsimonq2yep clivejo 00:21
clivejooh, sorry its part of apps!00:21
clivejothats handy!00:21
clivejoon my system - qml-module-org-kde-kholidays is already the newest version (16.04.3-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.10~ppa10).00:22
tsimonq2clivejo: what PPAs do you have enabled?00:23
clivejocurrently staging-kdeapplications as Im testing them00:24
tsimonq2clivejo: how dangerous of a PPA is that? XD00:24
tsimonq2oh, if it's like staging-plasma but for apps, it should be okay, right?00:24
clivejogood question!00:25
* tsimonq2 enables it and see what problems it causes :P00:25
clivejodont blame me if it fries your kittens00:26
tsimonq2I won't00:26
tsimonq2I'm running Yakkety, I kinda need to expect that things go wrong :P00:26
clivejobut you are right, that is a bug00:26
clivejobasically plasma-workspace needs to depend on qml-module-org-kde-kholidays00:27
tsimonq2clivejo: if I wanted to fix it, what branch?00:27
clivejoit needs to go into yakkety_archive, but we also have to upload the new packages to staging00:28
tsimonq2alright, so I make a PR against that?00:28
clivejoyou can see here that Neon have already picked it up00:29
tsimonq2how does Neon play into our ecosystem?00:29
clivejoNeon are a KDE project now who publish the lastest KDE on Ubuntu LTS00:30
clivejothey have their own CI called NCI00:30
clivejoso they are ahead of us00:30
clivejodebian on the other hand are behind us00:31
tsimonq2clivejo: so if they update it, they aren't upstream?00:31
clivejotsimonq2: yes and no00:31
tsimonq2clivejo: but I still need to update it then?00:32
clivejotsimonq2: yes, plasma-workspace needs updated to pull in those new Depends00:33
clivejoyou could add Neon as a remote and merge, but be very careful what you kept and replace00:33
tsimonq2clivejo: but in the yakkety archive branch?00:33
clivejosomeone will review it first00:34
tsimonq2k doing now00:34
clivejoalso cantor needs fixed00:35
tsimonq2alright, after this00:35
* valorie is going to the cabin for a night or two, see y'all when I get back00:38
tsimonq2o/ valorie 00:39
valorieso fantastic to see all this work getting done00:39
acheronukwow busy busy00:40
clivejoacheronuk: mind testing install of apps 16.04.3 on YY?00:42
tsimonq2hey it's acheronuk :D00:42
tsimonq2clivejo: do I need a dch entry?00:42
clivejoyes, just brief what you are doing00:42
clivejoie adding new depends for plasma 5.7.200:42
acheronukI have no YY VM at the moment. have to set anothe rup00:43
tsimonq2clivejo: do I need to change the wording I already have? https://code.launchpad.net/~tsimonq2/kubuntu-packaging/+git/kubuntu-plasma-workspace/+merge/30101200:44
tsimonq2I'm running YY, what do you need, clivejo?00:44
clivejooh, ok, sorry thought you had a VM00:44
ahoneybunyay finished00:44
acheronukI did, but it got a bit m,essed up and the snapshot points I had didn't help that much, so I trashed it00:44
clivejodid you just add that one cause its missing?00:45
acheronukgoing to try sleep again, but I could well be back!00:46
tsimonq2o/ acheronuk 00:46
tsimonq2clivejo: were you talking to me when you asked: "did you just add that one cause its missing?" ?00:47
clivejoI noticed Neon have a dep on qml-module-qtqml-models200:47
tsimonq2I don't know what that's about00:48
clivejome neither00:49
tsimonq2clivejo: but yeah, installing that package fixes my problem00:49
clivejonice one00:49
clivejook merge pushed and new package uploaded to staging-plasma00:55
clivejotsimonq2: any issues installing apps ?00:57
clivejoIm having issues with plasma-discover00:58
clivejoI think its packagekit related00:58
clivejoI need yofel's help with that00:59
tsimonq2clivejo: same here01:00
clivejoyou could maybe poke around with that, see why its not installing01:00
clivejomight be Qt 5.6.1 related01:01
tsimonq2clivejo: I have a queue, cantor is next :P01:02
clivejobut Im off to bed01:02
clivejojust queueing you up :P01:02
tsimonq2o/ clivejo :)01:02
ahoneybunnight clivejo01:02
tsimonq2ahoneybun: hey! :D01:03
ahoneybunhey tsimonq201:03
tsimonq2how are you ahoneybun?01:03
ahoneybunfine, u01:03
tsimonq2great :)01:03
* ahoneybun is about to throw YT into a firepi01:04
tsimonq2I'm making a monster, I'm installing kubuntu-desktop into a Yakkety VM, then I'm enabling the staging-* PPAs, then the CI PPA01:04
ahoneybunthe CI?01:04
tsimonq2I want to see if things crash and burn XD01:04
ahoneybunyour twisted a bit01:04
ahoneybunYT keeps failing to process the video01:08
ahoneybunit's a supported file type01:09
ahoneybunsame video really as the podcast01:10
ahoneybunjust added a intro to it01:11
ahoneybungoing to try to rename it, maybe YT does not like "_"01:12
ahoneybunand I'm mad at YT01:17
tsimonq2plasma-workspace PR incoming!01:17
tsimonq2oh noes I messed up baaaaaaad01:18
IrcsomeBot<Clifford> Nope Rik's change log is for unstable01:26
tsimonq2Clifford: well that's what I'm doing01:26
IrcsomeBot<Clifford> Oh right see now01:27
tsimonq2merging kubuntu_yakkety_archive -> kubuntu_stable -> kubuntu_unstable01:27
tsimonq2yeah :)01:27
IrcsomeBot<Clifford> I dont get the KCI merge feed on telegram01:28
tsimonq2Clifford: when someone merges that, that's the last merge error on KCI! :D01:29
ahoneybunis it?01:30
tsimonq2ahoneybun: http://kci.pangea.pub/view/merge%20FIX/01:30
tsimonq2ahoneybun: I handled the rest01:30
tsimonq2ahoneybun: those aren't merge issues, those are other issues01:33
ahoneybunmm I see01:33
tsimonq2as soon as https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/qt/qtwebengine.git/ works, it will fix a LOT of errors01:34
tsimonq2thanks acheronuk :)01:37
IrcsomeBot<Clifford> Problems sleeping?01:38
IrcsomeBot<Clifford> Me too01:38
IrcsomeBot<Clifford> Must be the weather01:38
* tsimonq2 throws a party, http://kci.pangea.pub/view/merge%20FIX/ is empty! :D01:38
acheronukmy sleep got a bit messed up with the hot weather we had in the UK, and it's still out of whack01:39
acheronukit seems01:40
ahoneybuntsimonq2: acheronuk clivejo https://youtu.be/Q1-ufK4dXms01:40
ahoneybunjust rendered the intro not the whole thing01:41
acheronukoh. you just explained01:42
ahoneybunI kinda like it01:43
ahoneybunmaybe change the logo and different music01:43
ahoneybunbut just to try it out01:43
acheronuksounds like the intro to an outtakes reel to me01:44
acheronukRick;s bloopers01:44
ahoneybunit is a dubstep sound track lol01:44
ahoneybunfirst song01:44
ahoneybunit could be taken as a teleport01:45
ahoneybunsince Rick likes to make it sound like he's taking you to Kubuntu world01:45
* acheronuk turns down volume!01:45
ahoneybunany feedback?01:45
ahoneybunwe also have slide for each section01:46
ahoneybunwell not for gaming but01:46
acheronukthis is the last podcast?01:47
ahoneybunwell its #1401:47
ahoneybunfirst 5 secs01:47
ahoneybunwith the intro in01:47
tsimonq2acheronuk: I'm trying to get the orig.tar.xz for Scarlett's qtwebengine, it's frustrating that I can't find it...01:48
acheronukdon't think debian has actual sources uploaded for that yet?01:49
tsimonq2acheronuk: then what use is the git source? 01:49
acheronukI presume she has the tarball01:50
tsimonq2where's she at?01:50
acheronuksources will be somwhere on the qt site01:50
tsimonq2acheronuk: yes but trying to use that is unsuccessful01:50
tsimonq2trying again01:51
acheronukI can imagine it is unsuccessful, as she is "far from done"01:52
tsimonq2acheronuk: that's my goal right now, to make that successful, or at least as close as possible01:54
tsimonq2(or at the very least I want to attempt it)01:54
acheronukworth a go01:54
tsimonq2acheronuk: that would probably fix half of the KCI errors01:54
acheronuk137M source .xz for QtWebEngine02:08
tsimonq2acheronuk: it needs a dependency that's in Debian's Git02:21
tsimonq2acheronuk: but not in the archive02:21
tsimonq2acheronuk: so I built it and I'm setting up a local archive so I can build this02:21
tsimonq2acheronuk: complicated :P02:21
acheronukQt rarely seems simple!02:22
tsimonq2heh :P02:22
acheronukpbuilder-satisfydepends-dummy : Depends: libqt5webchannel-dev (>= 5.6.0~) which is a virtual package and is not provided by any available package02:42
acheronukI see02:42
tsimonq2acheronuk: setting up a Debian archive is hard :P03:01
acheronukthere is a custom pool hook for pbuilder I think?03:05
tsimonq2I'm figuring it our03:11
acheronukclivejo: apps upgrade on YY04:32
tsimonq2acheronuk: I'm making progress :D04:33
acheronukgreat :)04:34
tsimonq2it's just missing a bunch of deps04:34
tsimonq2and I have to rebuild in sbuild every time, takes a while :/04:34
ahoneybundo you have an SSD tsimonq2?04:34
acheronukclivejo: The following packages have unmet dependencies. python3-pyqt5 : Depends: qtbase-abi-5-5-104:35
tsimonq2I didn't end up making the Debian archive, couldn't figure it out, so I just built and put it in the clean schroot :P04:35
tsimonq2noooo ahoneybun I want one tho04:35
ahoneybunmy laptop has one04:35
ahoneybunmaybe I should move to YY on that04:35
ahoneybunacheronuk: do you have access to a LXC on linode yet?04:36
acheronukclivejo: language pack bustage http://paste.ubuntu.com/20833858/04:36
acheronukI reinstalled on an SSD 2 weeks ago :)04:37
acheronukahoneybun: nope. not access to linode04:38
tsimonq2any chance one of you can ship me one? D:04:38
acheronukclive wanted to intercept mine from Amazon!04:38
ahoneybunbecause grown man sending packaging to a minor is not weird at all04:39
ahoneybun"but mom I'll go MUCH faster with it04:39
ahoneybunI have to say I've not seen so much green in here in a while04:40
ahoneybunnot anything bad to anyone04:40
tsimonq2I live with my dad 100% of the time and he's fine with it04:40
acheronukIt's a bit faster for pkg build, but not as much as you might think04:40
tsimonq2hell, pleia2 shipped me stickers04:40
acheronukan SSD that is04:40
ahoneybunshe sent me stickers as well04:40
ahoneybunwaiting on mariogrip04:40
ahoneybunnow lol04:40
acheronukclivejo: plasma-discover http://paste.ubuntu.com/20834238/04:42
ahoneybunmm no new release found04:42
acheronukclivejo: not a happy desktop after plasma and apps upgrade on YY http://i.imgur.com/6VgVIL1.png04:47
ahoneybunlooks like a bigger issue then kicker lol04:50
acheronukroll back that VM and try again I think!05:01
acheronukclivejo: adding plasma and apps together http://paste.ubuntu.com/20835899/05:08
acheronukclivejo: that is better. works when adding both ppa at the same time.05:17
acheronukoddly, starts with Plastik window decorations, but Breeze is there in the options05:18
acheronuk:D http://i.imgur.com/N1W6u8U.png05:20
ahoneybunso I need 16.10 to get 5.705:21
acheronukclivejo: other comments and pastes from before show same issues, i.e. langage packs, pyqt5, discover etc05:24
ahoneybunthough my nvidia stuff could cause issues05:24
acheronukahoneybun: 5.7 will come for XX05:26
ahoneybunoh crap\05:27
ahoneybunwell I started it kinda05:27
ahoneybunwell I broke it05:31
ahoneybunwhat I did was remove some sources05:32
ahoneybunwhich was bad05:32
ahoneybunfixable with a xenial source.list05:33
acheronukmakes sense if you aborted it quick enough05:33
ahoneybunyea lol05:34
ahoneybunadded them back05:35
ahoneybunthanks Google05:35
ahoneybungoing though with it for real05:37
ahoneybunso 10mins to download it05:38
ahoneybunmaybe 30-45mins to work05:38
ahoneybunthings are moving acheronuk06:07
ahoneybunkde-spectacle is not installed 06:10
ahoneybunso kubuntu-desktop is left unconfigured06:10
ahoneybunyay endless loop06:12
ahoneybunwants to remove kubuntu-desktop06:12
ahoneybunthe heck is going on 06:13
ahoneybunthat was a bad idea06:17
acheronukI haven't tried an upgrade06:22
ahoneybunyea bad idea06:22
ahoneybunmaking a Ubuntu usb drive atm06:23
ahoneybunwith 16.0406:23
acheronuk08:20:09 E: Error uploading file.08:26
acheronuk08:21:09 \t\t !!!!!!!!!! dput failed two times !!!!!!!!!!08:26
acheronuk08:21:09 chown -R jenkins:jenkins /var/lib/jenkins/workspaces/yakkety/unstable/kwordquiz08:26
acheronukGetting a lot of that ^^^ on CI08:26
yofelsitter: did you ever see ^ in the past?08:35
tsimonq2yofel \o/08:36
acheronuk08:20:08 Host key verification failed.08:40
acheronuk08:20:08 08:40
acheronuk08:20:08 Unable to connect to SSH host ppa.launchpad.net; EOF during negotiation08:40
acheronuk08:20:08 E: Error uploading file.08:40
acheronuk08:21:08 \t\t !!!!!!!!!! dput failed two times !!!!!!!!!!08:40
acheronuk08:21:08 chown -R jenkins:jenkins /var/lib/jenkins/workspaces/yakkety/unstable/klettres08:40
sitteryofel: guess launchpad doesn't wanna play (:08:45
acheronukjust on lindode?08:46
yofelsitter: yeah, but did you ever get that? Or is that even more random launchpad behavior08:46
* yofel is tempted to install a jenkins auto-retry-failures plugin..08:46
yofelor is launchpad crapping out because I'm doing too many concurrent uploads...08:47
* yofel would like to know what the actual error is08:50
sitteryofel: you'll want to talk to wgrant, I couldn't possibly say. the tooling does a second try after some sleeping already, so it is somewhat unlikely that this is purposeful behavior from launchpad08:50
yofelhost key verification failed is nonsense, the containers don't even have any entries in known_hosts, which is why the working builds have08:51
yofel08:15:49 Warning: Permanently added the RSA host key for IP address '' to the list of known hosts.08:51
yofelit's a jussi :O08:51
jussihello yofel08:52
jussilong time no speak08:52
yofelsitter: ok, I was just curious if you knew that08:52
yofelindeed :)08:52
sitteryofel: verification fail makes sense if launchpad closes the ssh session before negoation completes08:53
yofelsitter: on river, is jenkins running in lxc or something like that? I a) am not sure if I can upgrade docker without breaking everything and b) I don't understand where the apt-cache is located. is lxcbr0, but there seems to be no container?08:53
jussiyofel: How are things in yofel land?08:53
yofelsitter: hm, ok08:53
yofeljussi: personally I'm rather well, kubuntu is getting better again as well ;)08:54
jussiyofel: ok, good :) 08:54
sitteryofel: jenkins runs native08:54
sitterapt-cache is where it always should be ;)08:55
jussioh fun, I just found a bug in youtube-dl :(08:55
yofeloh ok, then I guess I was just too confused to see the obvious...08:56
jussianyone know whats happening here? http://pastebin.com/21uFBww908:57
yofelsitter: another thing, in deploy_in_container.rake, you run bundler in --local mode - but where is it supposed to find the gems? I removed that for now to get it to work... but that doesn't feel nice08:57
sitteryofel: mgmt_tooling caches all gems. then again I think you don't use that job08:59
yofeloh ok08:59
yofelsitter: well, not using it because it's not a matrix job, I'll have to reconfigure that and some others09:00
yofelbut ok, then I'll work on that09:00
sittermatrix job for nodes? if you had nodes what should happen is: tooling clone -> test -> bundles everything into cache -> tars -> archives -> triggers deployment job -> deployment is matrix unarchiving the tooling tar (including all gems) per node -> runs deploy_in shell script09:01
sitterpoint being you want deployment to not ever fail unless unavoidable (like say new docker image can't be built because yakkety has broken dependencies or something)09:03
yofelsitter: I saw no deploy job? So I did that by hand. The only matrix job right now is mgmt_docker09:03
acheronukWould be nice in the FIX lists on CI to be able to see whether last failure was the executor/upload, and which were genuine LP build errors09:03
sitteryofel: because mgmt_tooling did the deploy what with only having one node09:04
yofelsitter: ah ok, so I did get this right that tooling needs to be a matrix job09:04
yofelah no wait09:05
sitteryofel: http://mobile.kci.pangea.pub:8080/job/mgmt_tooling_progenitor/ (clone & bundle & tar) -> http://mobile.kci.pangea.pub:8080/job/mgmt_tooling_test/ (runs test and metrics) -> http://mobile.kci.pangea.pub:8080/job/mgmt_tooling_test/ (deploys tooling on all nodes) -> http://mobile.kci.pangea.pub:8080/job/mgmt_docker/ (creates/deploys docker images on all nodes)09:05
yofelok great09:05
sitterthird link should be http://mobile.kci.pangea.pub:8080/job/mgmt_tooling_deploy/ :)09:08
tsimonq2yofel: I'm making slow progress on (attempting to) get(ting) qtwebengine working, missing a looooooooot of dependencies that I have to resolve before I even get to code...09:09
sitteryofel: you want at least one matrix that is going to a) rake deploy (as defined in Rakefile) which deploys the tooling for the host (i.e. puts it into ~/tooling/) it runs on b) after that runs ~/tooling/mgmt/docker.rb which will deploy the staged tooling into new/updated images via the deploy_in shell script for bootstrapping and later deploy_in.rake09:10
sitterhow you structure this specifically is up to you of course. you could simply use the mci templates to implement the same as there09:10
sitterit's probably a bit over engineered for kci09:10
yofelsplitting mgmt_tooling into tooling+deploy will proably be enough for me09:11
yofeltsimonq2: are you basing that on the debian work? They are working on qtwebchannel / qtwebengine. But I don't know how far they got. You can find them in #debian-qt-kde@irc.oftc.net09:12
tsimonq2yofel: I'm working on the Debian git branches, yes09:13
tsimonq2and ooh! okay09:13
yofeltsimonq2: specifically talk to hefee09:13
tsimonq2yofel: doing that will probably fix a lot of errors09:13
tsimonq2yofel: alright :)09:13
tsimonq2yofel: is he/she in a European or US time zone?09:16
yofeltsimonq2: europe AFAIK09:16
yofeland he 09:17
tsimonq2yofel: getting good responses! \o/ :)09:22
acheronuktsimonq2: great :)09:35
soeemamarley: did you tested 5.7 on Xenial maybe ?09:57
mamarleysoee: Not yet, sorry.  Is it ready?10:02
soeemamarley: clivejo said that yes - it requires testing10:02
soeei will be doing tests later at home10:02
* mamarley starts KVM.10:02
soeemamarley: report if it wants to remove any packages etc.10:11
soeethis monday is sponsored by letter G like GREEN :)10:11
IrcsomeBot<Clifford> Its not ready on xenial just needs install testing10:29
IrcsomeBot<Clifford> Plasma 5.7.2 has depends on apps 16.04.310:29
IrcsomeBot<Clifford> Can someone look into why packagekit won't install?10:30
IrcsomeBot<Clifford> On yakkety10:31
tsimonq2let's see10:31
IrcsomeBot<Clifford> And yes, need to enable both plasma and app staging to test plasma5.7.2 due to those cross deps10:32
tsimonq2packagekit installs fine on my Yakkety system with both apps and plasma staging PPA installed10:33
yofeldiscover might be depending on packagekit from -proposed, which is stuck there10:33
tsimonq2oh let's see10:34
IrcsomeBot<Clifford> Yofel but discover has been rebuild on Qt5.6.1 in staging apps. Don't the staging ppas have proposed enabled?10:34
tsimonq2builds correctly, /me consults https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ProposedMigration10:34
tsimonq2weird, it's a valid candidate10:35
yofelthe installability checks fail10:36
tsimonq2yofel: is there a link to results somewhere that I'm not seeing on the above page?10:36
yofelhttp://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_output.txt -> look for "Trying easy from autohinter: aptdaemon/1.1.1+bzr982-0ubuntu15 deja-dup/34.2-0ubuntu2 packagekit/1.1.1-1ubuntu1 pk-update-icon/2.0.0-1build110:37
* tsimonq2 tests in a VM10:39
acheronukplasma-discover : Depends: packagekit (>= 1.0)10:40
tsimonq2acheronuk: I know, we're waiting on the proposed migration and I'm trying to figure that out now10:41
yofeltsimonq2: do you know how to read britney output?10:42
acheronuktsimonq2: didn't check last posts. whoops10:42
tsimonq2yofel: no clue whatsoever10:43
yofeltsimonq2: do you know what britney is? ^^10:44
tsimonq2yes I know what it is10:44
tsimonq2I'm reading w.u.c/ProposedMigration now10:45
yofelok, I'll let you read that then, that explains most of it10:45
acheronukclivejo: did an apps/plasma YY upgrade test in a VM this morning http://paste.ubuntu.com/20835899/10:49
clivejothought python3-pyqt5 was fixed10:50
acheronuk langage packs, pyqt5 uninstallable. discover, the probs we know10:50
clivejobut the rebuild of pyqt5 solved a lot of those on my install10:52
clivejowhy isnt it doing the same on yours10:52
acheronukThe following packages have unmet dependencies.10:52
acheronuk python3-pyqt5 : Depends: qtbase-abi-5-5-110:52
acheronukapt-cache policy python3-pyqt510:53
acheronuk  Installed: (none)10:53
acheronuk  Candidate: 5.6+dfsg-110:53
acheronuk  Version table:10:53
acheronuk     5.6+dfsg-1 50010:53
acheronuk        500 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu yakkety/universe amd64 Packages10:53
clivejoah, it was in apps staging before the great wipe10:54
jimarvanthe great wipe? :O10:54
acheronukmakes sense10:54
clivejoyes, it was so sad jim10:54
acheronukit was a 'lemon fresh' wipe though10:55
clivejomany perished10:55
clivejoincluding poor pyqt it seems10:55
acheronukmostly germs10:56
jimarvanold versions and such?10:56
IrcsomeBot<Sick_Rimmit> I got my laptop back, so I'm part of the conversation time line again here.10:56
IrcsomeBot<Sick_Rimmit> Just saying h10:57
IrcsomeBot<Sick_Rimmit> i10:57
tsimonq2hey it's Rick! \o/10:57
tsimonq2how are you?10:57
IrcsomeBot<Sick_Rimmit> o/10:57
jimarvanhey :)10:57
IrcsomeBot<Sick_Rimmit> Im better now I have my laptop back, with my Telegram link here10:57
tsimonq2yay :)10:57
acheronukcervisia needs it's packaging porting to KF510:58
acheronukif tsimonq2 is busy and doesn't want it, I'll do it later10:58
* tsimonq2 raises his hand10:58
tsimonq2acheronuk: what needs to be done?10:59
acheronukpacaging done so it builds :P11:00
acheronuktsimonq2: but it's more that just adding ECM deps ^^^11:01
clivejoacheronuk: when these build and piublish, will you test please?  https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/staging-plasma/+packages?field.name_filter=pyqt&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=11:01
tsimonq2acheronuk: probably symbols as well?11:02
tsimonq2re: packagekit, I couldn't figure it out11:02
acheronuktsimonq2: have a look at that and the packaging and see what YOU think11:02
tsimonq2alright acheronuk 11:02
acheronukthe clues are out there.....11:02
clivejotsimonq2: how did you get on with cantor?11:02
yofelacheronuk: don't forget the build system namespace version11:03
acheronuktsimonq2: or you could just pinch Neon's packaging :P11:03
acheronukyofel: did I? 11:04
tsimonq2clivejo: wasn't the method if it didn't show an -- Installing: line and the file was missing it could be safely removed11:04
tsimonq2clivejo: or am I wrong?11:04
yofelacheronuk: I didn't check, it's just a really common mistake11:04
acheronukyofel: oh, right!11:04
clivejotsimonq2: that package has a few problems in it, which is why I wanted you to do it ;)11:04
clivejothe lib version has changed11:05
tsimonq2will do clivejo 11:05
tsimonq2acheronuk: cantor goes first, then cervisia :)11:06
yofeltsimonq2: if you look at the architecture lists on the output page, britney tells you "these packages would become uninstallable if the new versions go to release and their old versions get deleted". Until that list isn't equal or smaller than the current state in release, britney will refuse to migrate them11:06
yofeland as this is a multi-package migration, it's a bit complex11:06
tsimonq2yofel: I see that, but I couldn't figure out what the common issue11:06
yofelah ok11:07
yofelnvm me then ^^11:07
clivejoyofel: did you see Mirv's conversation?11:08
yofelyesterday yes11:08
clivejohappy with that?11:08
acheronukclivejo: yes, I will test pqyqt5 once published11:08
yofelyes. Regarding out pages: I simply feel no motivation to do them, then do them *again* after qt 5.6.1 is up11:08
yofel*our packages11:08
clivejobest way for us to deal is get Qt5.6.1 into archive and then clean up?11:09
tsimonq2clivejo: there's more to it, but I'm not seeing it, do I just need to add the libraries listed as Installing: ?11:09
yofelyes, preferably11:09
Mirvtomorrow is my current plan11:10
clivejoMirv: :)11:10
yofelMirv: are there any chances of qtwebchannel and qtwebengine making it into yakkety if hefee and simon get them done soon?11:10
tsimonq2clivejo: because there's three different libraries listed there, and two of them are in the install file11:10
clivejoare you sure they are different?11:11
mamarleyclivejo: Regarding testing 5.7 on Xenial, attempting to install wants kde-l10n-engb, language-pack-kde-en, and python3-pyqt5 (with related dependencies) to be removed.11:11
clivejocould they be sym links?11:11
clivejomamarley: I know about the kde-l10n thats on the to-do list11:12
clivejopyqt5 is building in plasma-staging so when it publishes that should be resolved11:12
Mirvyofel: sure if those get to Debian it's no problem to sync them (or even without Debian as long as archive admins are happy with them)11:12
yofelMirv: ok, thanks11:13
mamarleyclivejo: OK, cool.  soee asked me to test and let you know, so I did. :)11:13
yofelthen we'll wait with apps 16.08 a bit until we know more11:13
clivejomamarley: thanks11:13
yofel(otherwise we would have to cut out pim*)11:13
clivejoyofel: BTW I uploaded kde4libs to KCI unstable as a temp measure11:14
acheronukclivejo: on XX Missing build dependencies: python-sip-dev (>= 4.18), python3-sip-dev (>= 4.18)11:14
yofelclivejo: thanks11:14
clivejoacheronuk: yuck11:14
yofelcan you try to use the old pyqt5 on X?11:15
clivejocould be bigger job backporting to XX than thought11:15
yofelbackporting sip isn't particulary fun..11:15
yofelthough usually not impossible11:15
clivejowonders how Neon managed it11:15
yofeltrue, wanna check? ^^11:16
mamarleyclivejo: After installing, everything seems to work though (besides the stuff that got removed).  Good job!11:16
clivejomamarley: very much a team effort :)11:17
acheronuklooks like Neon still have build of 5.5.1?11:17
mamarleyclivejo: acheronuk: yofel:  Good job! :)11:17
clivejobuilding on the shoulders of gaints11:17
clivejotsimonq2 deserves a mention too!11:17
mamarleytsimonq2: Good job!11:17
clivejohes been fixing packages left right and centre11:17
tsimonq2thanks y'all :D11:18
mamarley(Sorry, I can't always keep up with who is doing what.)11:18
clivejomamarley: best just to say thanks team!11:18
clivejoso noone feels left out!11:18
tsimonq2clivejo: I don't know if you saw (I forget who I say what to sometimes) but except for one package, http://kci.pangea.pub/view/merge%20FIX/ has been emptied! :D11:18
clivejoI noticed ;)11:19
tsimonq2an unbelievable amount of packages will be fixed once this uploads11:19
tsimonq2(the work I'm doing with hefee)11:20
clivejoI need to read that log (sometime)11:20
acheronukit would also let us do the full release of the next kdeappa11:20
clivejoacheronuk: have you slept?11:21
acheronukclivejo: a bit. enough11:21
clivejois it still warm there?11:22
acheronukabout 20C, so comfortable now11:22
tsimonq2yofel: the archive admins will (most likely) be okay with new packages until Feature Freeze on Aug. 1811:26
tsimonq2yofel: so that answers what you said earlier :)11:26
BluesKajHiyas all12:08
acheronukclivejo: on YY python3-pyqt5 installed ok, and I was then able to re-install apport-kde, apturl-kde, kubuntu-driver-manager, kubuntu-notification-helper and software-properties-kde12:21
* yofel realizes that apps master now tracks 16.1212:52
yofelclivejo: do you think it's worth to save the current apps ci state into kubuntu_stable? So we can base our 16.08 on that?12:53
yofelI really need to get stable working again :S12:53
acheronukyofel: do I/we need to hold off doing anything? i.e. KF5 packaging for cervisia etc? I did kdf -> KF5 earlier not thinking about that!13:06
yofelacheronuk: no, this is about apps/* - plasma and FW we already have the versions in _archive that we indend to ship13:06
yofelwell, fw we might update, but then fixing CI is really worth it13:06
yofelacheronuk: problem with apps is, I don't know when those ports happened13:07
yofelso go ahead and do your work 13:07
yofelwe can figure stuff out later13:07
acheronukyofel: ok. I checked in kde git to see what they had done, but didn't notw the timing either13:09
yofelacheronuk: actually, check the Applications/15.08 branch, then you'll know if it's fine or not13:09
acheronukyesp, that is what I'm going to take a look at13:10
yofelgreat :)13:10
* acheronuk blames his keyboard today. grr @ typos13:10
acheronukok. looks like both kdf and cervisa where ported for 16.0813:15
yofelok, the akonadi change I did earlier was for 16.12 I believe, but not harmful for 16.0813:16
IrcsomeBot<Clifford> I'm OK with that13:44
yofellets wait until the evening so we can get a bit more work done, then I'll work on the CI again13:45
yofelfirst thing I'll add is a retry-after-failure plugin so jenkins auto-retries failure (somewhat like: run>fail>wait 5 min>fail>10min>fail>15min>fail permanently). That should make the failure list more realistic short-term, even if it's ugly13:46
yofelthen I guess looking at making stable work again should be next...13:47
pursuivantlibqapt (master) v3.0.2-4-gd109c90 * Harald Sitter: utils (2 files in 2 dirs)13:54
pursuivantfix incorrect markup usage13:54
pursuivantsince kf5 kuit markup needs to be run through xi18n* rather than i18n*13:54
pursuivant(this really should have a build-time check in ki18n... fixing this crap13:54
clivejosorry was away for a bit14:11
yofelclivejo: on a different topic: can you explain the usecase of xenial unstable to me?14:14
clivejoI dont know why those branches are there14:15
clivejowhy do we need distro_unstable?14:15
yofelI mean the builds. Currently they build from kubuntu_unstable as well, but I don't see any workflow where they would ever get used?14:15
clivejosorry, I think Im misunderstanding the question14:16
yofelyakkety unstable, obvious. yakkety stable, obvious. stable_series stable, useful for bugfix releases (e.g. plasma LTS), but stable_series unstable?!?14:16
yofelI mean, in what situation would you use the xenial unstable builds?14:17
yofelor hm, they give information about backportability14:17
clivejoId use it to judge problems Id encounter backporting to Xenial14:18
yofelok, that's what I missed in my thought process. ok14:18
clivejoif we had Qt on KCI, it would have shown up the issues with sip14:18
tsimonq2yofel: if I have a package, how do I generate the symbols file when I don't know where the library resides? The docs say: "The above commands should be invoked from the top level directory of your package's source after having build the package and before cleaning (so that debian/libfoo1/usr/lib/libfoo.so.1 exists). "symbols.amd64" is the filename of the intermediate symbols file that will be gener14:19
tsimonq2ated by pkgkde-gensymbols." but I don't know what "after having build the package and before cleaning" means14:19
yofeltsimonq2: it means in the build folder after a successful build, while all the temporary debhelper/dpkg data is still there14:20
clivejoand sometimes we need to backport 3rd party packages to make a succussful backport14:20
clivejolibdrumstick will need backported to xenial, so that the new app minuet will build on X14:20
* yofel isn't convinced that having Qt in kci makes sense14:20
clivejoif KCI was working correctly, it should flag that14:21
clivejojust trying to think on example I know about14:22
clivejoof why unstable on xenial is useful to have14:22
yofelwell, it would flag it as "xenial unstable FAILURE"14:22
clivejoif everything was wroking14:22
clivejoin theory it would make backporting easier, as we would know about issues in advantage of doing the backport14:23
clivejoforward planning so to speak14:23
clivejospread the workload, rather than the big bang approach14:24
tsimonq2yofel: do you know if I can do that with sbuild? how can I catch it at that stage?14:24
yofeltsimonq2: I don't. I use pbuilder with a hook that drops me into a shell post-build14:25
tsimonq2yofel: ooh how do I configure that?14:25
clivejobut as for stable on xenial, Im at a lose to find a use for that?14:25
clivejocant see the bigger picture14:25
clivejoloss even14:26
yofelclivejo: bugfix release SRUs - which we currently don't have. So that's probably something to selectively enable/disable14:27
yofelif it's actually worth it14:27
yofelprobably only for plasma14:27
clivejooh ok14:27
clivejosorry my brain is elsewhere at the moment14:27
yofelwith plasma LTS for kubuntu 18.04 it'll become relevant14:27
clivejopeople are mapping Pokestops on OSM *cries*14:28
clivejoas if we dont have enough rubbish with "Big Daves House" and other strangeness people be up to!14:28
tsimonq2yofel: how did you configure pbuilder like that?14:29
yofeltsimonq2: make yourself a pbuilder setup configuring the pbuilder hook directory, then put http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/pbuilder/pbuilder-hooks/view/head:/C10shell into there, rename it to B10shell and make sure it's executable14:29
yofelyou might as well use all our hooks ;)14:29
tsimonq2great thanks :)14:29
yofelC10shell will run on failure, B* on success14:29
clivejoa tourist attraction!14:30
* clivejo curses14:30
clivejoyofel: do you have the kde-l10n packaging guide to hand?14:32
tsimonq2yofel: but I don't just want it when it fails14:32
clivejoI can never find it14:32
tsimonq2yofel: I want it all the time14:33
yofeltsimonq2: yes, so cp C10shell to B10shell, or just symlink it14:33
tsimonq2alright thanks14:33
yofelclivejo: https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu/Packaging/L10nOperatorGuide (google for kubuntu l10n, then on the linked wiki page there's a link to that)14:34
* clivejo wonders if he could do the kde-l10n on linode14:37
yofelurgh, you'll have to wait a bit with that14:38
yofelI didn't finish restoring the packaging env14:38
clivejoyou torturing it again?14:38
yofelso all I could give you is a bare xenial container14:38
yofelif that helps you?14:38
clivejoit ok, it can wait14:39
clivejodid you backup my settings14:39
yofelI did back up 'kde-apps', yes14:39
acheronuk"If we are in the middle of an update, Launchpad will be back in a couple of minutes."15:00
acheronukif it's not one thing it's another!15:00
tsimonq2yofel: I'm frustrated, I couldn't get pbuilder to work, and I just want to do it like the instructions say15:26
yofeltsimonq2: then just do it by hand: make a deboostrap chroot, install the build-deps, debuild15:27
IrcsomeBot<Sick_Rimmit> WoW it's busy busy time in here today 😃15:27
tsimonq2o/ Rick15:27
IrcsomeBot<Sick_Rimmit> Lots of action going on 😃15:27
Mirvok Qt Creator 4.0.2 upgrade done, tomorrow: Qt 5.6.1 (if nothing pops up)15:29
yofelinteresting: https://tjaalton.wordpress.com/2016/07/23/intel-graphics-gen4-and-newer-now-defaults-to-modesetting-driver-on-x/15:29
yofelif that means less buggy intel, I'm happy15:30
acheronukyofel: I saw that. 15:31
acheronukI had to report several bugs to Chris Wilson/intel-gfx when my intel laptop was my main machine15:31
yofelmy optimus notebook uses the nvidia shipped intel driver. When I initially installed kubuntu, the archive driver was barely functional...15:32
tsimonq2yofel: generating symbols, should I specify libQt5WebChannel.so.5, libQt5WebChannel.so.5.6, or libQt5WebChannel.so.5.6.1?15:52
yofeltsimonq2: the first15:52
tsimonq2yofel: alright15:52
tsimonq2yofel: and then the version I specify is the same as in the debian/changelog file or the same as the orig.tar.xz version?15:53
yofeluh, now I need to look at the docs, sec15:53
yofeltsimonq2: latter (i.e. the same as you would pass batchpatch)15:54
tsimonq2yofel: alright15:55
tsimonq2yofel: does this look good? https://git.launchpad.net/~tsimonq2/+git/qtwebchannel/commit/?id=2eee915b516ff5e79e37e6e21a44189f972f4f2815:59
yofeltsimonq2: looks ok to me15:59
yofeltsimonq2: actually no16:00
yofelthat libfoo1 in line 2 is wrong16:00
tsimonq2gosh darnit16:00
yofelthat should say libqt5webchannel516:00
yofelI think16:00
tsimonq2yofel: how about now? https://git.launchpad.net/~tsimonq2/+git/qtwebchannel/commit/?id=c5f64da2863d3c1879c72c0553cf96e91153930016:02
yofellooks ok to me. The Qt version namespaces at the top I'm not familiar with16:03
tsimonq2great :)16:03
yofelhm, I forgot that you could indeed just extract the debs to get the library files...16:08
* yofel makes a mental note16:08
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> has anyone tried to upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04?17:26
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> that's going to be a BIG upgrade17:26
jimarvanI wouldn't even dare tbh17:38
dirtsideI've had bad enough experiences trying to upgrade from one major version to another in the past; it's simpler to just reinstall anew and migrate my home dir.17:40
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> personally I would not recommand it17:41
acheronukI did vivid -> wily -> xenial in 1 day, and that was bad enough17:44
mamarleyI may or may not just change "xenial" to "yakkety" in /etc/apt/source.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* (where applicable) and do a normal upgrade with Synaptic…17:45
clivejomamarley: when you put in an SD, USB or disc does Plasma 5.7.2 pop a window telling you?  and if so, what does it do when you click on the device you just inserted?17:59
clivejoin YY17:59
BluesKajmamarley, sudo release-upgrade -d ?18:00
BluesKajoops  sudo do-release-upgrade -d , rather18:01
mamarleyBluesKaj: No, just a regular upgrade in Synaptic.  I don't recommend others do it though; it may break your system.18:02
mamarleyclivejo: Just a sec, let me see if I can find a USB stick somewhere around here…18:02
mamarleyclivejo: Sorry, there are no USB sticks in this vicinity.  I will try that once I get home.18:03
BluesKajmamarley,   I used sed to change sources.list waaay back in the winter sometime ,  sudo sed -i 's/xenial/yakkety/' /etc/apt/sources.list 18:05
BluesKajthen updated and upgraded18:05
mamarleyYep, that's what I do, mainly so I don't have all my PPA packages downgraded and then have to go re-enable and upgrade them again.18:06
BluesKajwell. it does work if there's no devel release available officially 18:07
BluesKajwow, 2 in a row :-)18:09
yofelahoneybun: I did once. Can work, I believe I even tested that at release time, but I wouldn't rely on it. You'll loose all your desktop settings anyway18:10
yofelahoneybun: OTOH, if you do run into problems we can try fixing those ;)18:23
BluesKajKonversation has socks5 proxy server options that seem useless ..the proxy just gets ignored somehow 18:23
jimarvani see the fixing goes very well lately18:25
jimarvanwhat have you done?18:25
BluesKajI have access to a proxy server that works well on qbittorrent, but the same settings on konversation have no effect whatsoever18:25
BluesKajgoogle and duck duck go  and other searches have nothing about this except how to "tor "18:28
acheronukjimarvan: fixes? a new keen volunteer tsimonq2. nervous energy on my part from lack sleep :P. and everyone else of course18:31
Sho_I can try it some time, I have a socks5 proxy set up18:31
jimarvangoing for training, see ya later :D18:32
tsimonq2acheronuk: been up for almost 24 hours, I want to sleep, but there's an Ubuntu On Air session in less than a half an hour that I need to do18:33
tsimonq2acheronuk: but yeah, I've just been plowing through those18:34
* yofel keeps poking tsimonq2 to keep him awake18:48
tsimonq2I'm fine lol18:49
tsimonq2yofel: drinking game: watch the Ubuntu On Air session and drink every time I yawn18:50
yofeluh, rather not XD18:50
tsimonq2finally! all done! sleep for me, o/19:35
yofelnini :)19:37
clivejoyofel: how do I setup a LP trigger19:50
IrcsomeBot<yofel> Either through the web ui, or if the branch is in kubuntu packaging, use the script in kubuntu-dev-tools19:53
clivejoyofel is there a secret needed?20:02
claydohsilly question: how is the qt version in 16.04 affectng things there? 20:03
* claydoh should know but doesn't20:03
clivejomeans we have a lot more work to backport Plasma 5.7 as it requires Qt5.6.120:04
clivejoand there wont be official Qt5.6.1 on XX for a while yet20:04
clivejoif at all :/20:05
acheronukwe have it readying in the staging for backports20:06
claydohand for obvious reasons we aren't providing updated qt20:06
IrcsomeBot<yofel> Clive: no secret. But a long trigger url20:07
clivejoacheronuk here has been backporting a test build of it, which is working very nicely!20:07
acheronukbut, if people eventually use that backport from a ppa, it will be on them20:08
claydohthere actually is a peron in the forum nearly demanding a two week turnover for things, and just where is his applications 16.04.1  packages?20:08
claydohwell, I read it as demanding :)20:08
acheronukclaydoh: I saw that!20:08
* claydoh forgets to thank acheronuk for visiting kfn ;)20:09
claydohit is noce to see some crossover20:09
claydohbetween dev land and user-land, scary as that can be for everyone20:09
claydohnice to see, rather20:10
acheronukclaydoh: I like forum stuff, so it's familiar to me20:10
acheronukclaydoh: thought I've had to bite my tongue20:10
claydohacheronuk: why?20:10
acheronukthat Q today for one20:11
claydohit is laiud back there, I try to make sure it stays that way, as does everyone else20:12
claydohlaid back, rather20:12
acheronukit needs be nothing more, and that is good20:12
claydohfeel free to voice an opinion, unless you think you would get hot headed for some reason20:12
acheronukbelieve me, if I really want to, I will!20:13
clivejotell him to come and help!20:14
claydohyou can tell the overall tone of the forum by how we have responded in that thread. And yes, I held back myself20:14
clivejowhat forum is it?20:15
clivejowho runs that?20:16
santa_good evening everyone20:17
claydoha dude named Open Source, I am a mod/admin there since 200620:17
clivejohi santa_20:17
claydohbut really myself and SnowHog actually run it, though it doesn't ake much to do20:18
acheronukclivejo: I gave hime links to the dojo and to donate to kubuntu ;) to 'hurry things up'20:18
clivejojust seen a dirty big ad banner20:18
clivejohave you a link to the post?20:19
claydohawe, just sign up there already clivejo :D20:20
claydohget rid of the ads for free20:20
clivejoI think Im on it20:20
clivejogod knows what the password is20:20
claydohyes you are, I can send you a password recovery link if you'd like20:22
clivejolet me check my vault20:22
clivejoIm reading this 20:22
clivejoare you greygeek?20:22
claydohclivejo: nope I am me, claydoh same as here20:23
claydohI am a bit younger lol20:23
claydohtho the grey is expanding20:23
acheronukI think claydoh is claydoh20:24
clivejoIm in"!20:24
acheronukunless there is subterfuge20:24
clivejocan I point him to Neon?20:25
claydohacheronuk: no ive been claydoh since 1973 ish20:25
claydohclivejo: he already has been pointed there20:25
clivejoah yes20:25
ahoneybunwhy are people in Kubuntu pointing people to Neon?20:26
clivejocause he wants it yesterday#20:26
acheronukahoneybun: and it is new and shiny. to them anyway20:27
* ahoneybun dislikes Neon20:27
clivejowhat has Neon done on Mr Honeybun?20:27
ahoneybunleft us20:28
clivejothats the Linux world20:28
clivejoforks, of forks, of forks20:28
clivejogives us more choice and freedom20:29
ahoneybunalso left us high and dry20:29
geniiDivides and conquers20:29
claydohwe aren't distro snobs or haters on the forum thank goodness20:30
claydohtho I was the only "no" votr there on adding a Neon section20:30
acheronukif you don't have one, it will just pollute other threads and sections (more)20:31
claydohwe hyave too many sections, and sub-sections which is my pet peeve and popular demand keeps me from getting rid of lol20:32
acheronukalways the way with forums. they are hard to balance like that20:33
santa_talking about the topic, what's the blocker? qt?20:35
santa_how many people we have here with permissions to upload to archive?20:35
santa_just want to catch up after my long abscence here20:35
acheronukThe Qt maintainer is uploading Qt 5.6.1 for YY tomorrow I think to the main archive?20:36
acheronukso can then build against that rather than my version20:37
acheronukdon't think yofel wanted to upload anything else until that was done and ironed out?20:38
santa_Mirv: ↑ is this right? do you have a ppa with a pre-release of the upcoming qt packages?20:38
acheronuksanta: https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-024/+packages20:39
clivejoawww, I dont have a signature20:43
* acheronuk goes to put '2 week turnaround' onto trello todo for clivejo20:44
yofelclivejo: got your trigger set up?20:54
clivejonot sure20:54
clivejoI moved muon to LP20:54
clivejoupdated the git in KCI20:55
clivejoand copied a job for yakkety20:55
yofelhm, looks about right20:55
yofeluh, let me rather do a proper job refresh20:55
yofelneeds to be added to kci.yaml anyway or the job would vanish20:56
yofelI think20:56
clivejocould you add muon and kdeconnect to the daily build queue20:56
yofelclivejo: done21:04
yofelhm, why does that have its own category...21:06
yofelkdeconnect was also already there21:06
clivejowas thinking of renaming it to misc kde stuff21:06
clivejobut dont think theres a way to list the packages in it21:07
clivejocan we get rid?21:07
clivejothe muon tab/category21:07
yofelsure, the builds are listed in the other views21:08
clivejoit shows up in the xenial and yakkety lists21:08
mamarleyclivejo: You asked me about the Device Notifier thing earlier?  I just tried it and it appears to work properly.  It pops up when I plug a USB stick and Dolphin comes up when I click on the device.21:10
clivejoit opens dolphin21:11
clivejomine doesnt :(21:11
acheronukclivejo: in YY?21:12
acheronukwhen I attatched the vboxadditions iso to my yy VM this morning, it triggerd the popup ok21:13
acheronukclicking opened the iso contents in dolphin as well21:14
clivejoweird, sometimes it pops up about KIO21:15
clivejoI just put in an SD card and its working21:15
clivejoclaydoh can you enable my signature?21:17
claydohclivejo: lemme look21:18
acheronuk!cookies 21:20
ubottuCookies are delicious delicacies.21:20
* clivejo is still waiting for his cookies21:21
ubottuWow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!21:21
* acheronuk ** hides **21:22
claydohclivejo: you should be able to have one, you only need 3 posts before being allowed to21:22
acheronukclivejo: did it not let you edit?21:23
clivejoI added one21:23
clivejobut not showing up21:23
claydoh Did you ediot  it here: https://www.kubuntuforums.net/profile.php?do=editsignature21:24
claydohnothing is showing in the admin panel for you there21:25
acheronukclivejo: did you click preview instead of save maybe?21:26
claydohI can copypasta the text if you can paste it somewhere, can't find the setting yet but mybe we turned off html in sigs? 21:29
claydohnope it is enablred21:30
clivejoits three lines buts says Your signature contains too many lines and must be shortened. You may only have up to 4 line(s). Long text may have been implicitly wrapped, causing it to be counted as multiple lines.21:32
clivejogimp: symbol lookup error: gimp: undefined symbol: gegl_param_multiline_get_type21:42
yofelwell, rebuild gimp and scream at the maintainer that broke a lib21:44
jimarvanagain? :O21:45
jimarvanhihi  :D21:45
yofelread timeout, huh21:52
yofelwell, that's why we now have auto-retries21:52
yofelclivejo: what port did I give your container again?21:54
yofelI need to implement port logging :/21:55
yofelclivejo: running again21:55
yofelI restored ~, did you change anything else?21:55
clivejodont think so21:56
yofelok, if you do remember something, the backup is in /srv/bak/kde-apps on the host21:56
clivejonot letting me in21:59
yofelhm, oops21:59
yofelclivejo: now22:01
yofelcp -u didn't behave as I expected22:01
clivejoThe program 'fortune' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing:22:01
yofelok, nvm that, fixed22:04
acheronukyofel: do you know if the fix for driver manager is going into Xenial soon?22:04
yofelacheronuk: as soon as someone gets it in22:05
acheronukoops. sorry to interrupt22:05
clivejo!info kde-l10n22:08
ubottuPackage kde-l10n does not exist in yakkety22:08
clivejo!info kde-l10n-ru22:09
ubottukde-l10n-ru (source: kde-l10n-ru): ru (ru) localization for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:15.12.3-0ubuntu2 (yakkety), package size 20943 kB, installed size 35653 kB22:09
clivejooh good lord22:14
jimarvanlocalization problem?22:14
clivejothe linode is fast22:15
acheronukhope so22:15
clivejowhere do I add my ssh key in KDE22:16
yofellogin to depot and add it to authorized_keys22:17
yofelif you need access to that22:18
clivejohow do I add it22:20
clivejowhat text editor22:21
clivejoI can more the file22:21
clivejoand can see my other entry22:22
clivejobut how do I edit the file to add my new key under that one22:22
yofelvim is installed, dunno what else22:22
apolhi guys, can you look into this bug report? https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36602922:23
ubottuKDE bug 366029 in Updater "Updater does not report available updates every day" [Normal,Unconfirmed]22:23
acheronukclivejo: lol. 'yak attack' avatar!22:30
clivejonow how do I remote sign 22:38
* clivejo scratches head22:38
acheronukclivejo: I googled a while back and found links like https://www.isi.edu/~calvin/gpgagent.htm22:41
clivejoisnt it debsign -r ?22:42
acheronukthat would be better22:44
acheronukwas going to work it out when I got there....22:45
clivejonot sure how to tell it to log into the container22:46
clivejohow do I tell it the port :/22:46
clivejoyofel: help!22:51
clivejohow do I connect to the host via debsign using port 2201?22:52
acheronukwow. very little info, even on Google!23:05
clivejogot it23:08
clivejoadded Port 2201 to my .ssh/config entry23:10
clivejoI love how fast it is!23:16
clivejowould take me hours!23:16
* acheronuk is jealous23:16
clivejoget a container :P23:17
acheronukthere are builds on LP still not published 2 hrs after finishing!23:17
acheronukkdelib4support etc23:19
acheronukand some others. if you can belive LP that is23:19
acheronukclivejo: I'll ask for a container when I can justify it. :) 23:21
acheronukok. I must say goodnight. 23:23
clivejohope you sleep well23:24
acheronuknow I see your signature23:25
clivejoyou do?23:27
clivejooh on the forum!23:27
clivejo!info kiosktool23:27
ubottuPackage kiosktool does not exist in yakkety23:27
acheronukreally goodnight now. 23:27
jimarvansame :D23:28
jimarvansee ya peeps23:28

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