[02:23] <user_> If I download ubuntu mate alpha...do the packages get updated via apt? Or do I need to re install daily builds?
[02:31] <randall> I imagine apt would update it to the stable release, but I never tried it
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[06:19] <ducky__> l
[06:19] <ducky__> hey
[06:19] <alkisg> Hi
[06:19] <ducky__> awsome
[06:19] <alkisg> stunning
[06:20] <ducky__> what?
[06:20] <alkisg> I don't know... what is awesome?
[06:21] <ducky__> i can see people here
[06:21] <ducky__> its awesome
[06:22] <ducky__> so how do u know who is talking to u?
[06:22] <alkisg> It's also stunning! :)
[06:22] <alkisg> In general, it's an open chat
[06:22] <alkisg> But if you want to talk to someone specific, you prefix the line with his name
[06:22] <alkisg> ducky__: got it?
[06:22] <alkisg> (that's du and tab for autocomplete)
[06:22] <lenovo_lover> Thanks for waking me up ducky!
[06:23] <ducky__>  yep
[06:24] <ducky__> so we talk here just for fun?
[06:24] <alkisg> No, only for ubuntu-mate support
[06:24] <alkisg> There are other channels for generic chat, but I don't know them
[06:25] <lenovo_lover> ##linux
[06:25] <ducky__> all over the world?
[06:25] <lenovo_lover> IRC channels are all over the world
[06:30] <lenovo_lover> What kind of hardware are we running Ubuntu-MATE on?
[06:30] <madsa> lenovo_lover, my guess if you're running a lenovo ;)
[06:31] <lenovo_lover> Panasonic Toughbook actually :P
[06:31] <madsa> I've got an ASUS UX305CA, it's really nice
[06:32] <madsa> Intel m3 processor, 8GB RAM, 256GB Micron SSD
[06:33] <lenovo_lover> That thing is pretty thin. What are you getting for battery life?  Mate vs other DE?
[06:33] <madsa> Running MATE, but have to run it at 1920x1080 resolution since MATE doesn't have proper hidpi support
[06:33] <madsa> it's actually a QHD (3200x1800) touchscreen
[06:33] <madsa> battery life I get about 6-8 hours
[06:35] <lenovo_lover> Well that beats my 1024x768
[06:35] <madsa> yeah, it's thin, about the same size as a macbook air as well
[06:36] <madsa> though way cheaper (only 700 USD)
[06:36] <lenovo_lover> I have a Thinkpad T450s as well, but I'm likely selling that soon.
[06:36] <madsa> too bad, that's a nice laptop
[06:39] <lenovo_lover> It's great, but I enjoy the 4:3 aspect screen, as well as the novelty factor of my current machine
[06:40] <lenovo_lover> The screen is marvelous on the T450s though.  100% rgba and the blacks are great.
[06:41] <lenovo_lover> I like native res over scaling, so 1920x1080 is perfect for readability on a 14" screen
[06:43] <lenovo_lover> http://imgur.com/a/xHmfv#dVhw1Y4
[06:44] <madsa> sweet rig, I like it
[06:44] <madsa> you could drop it down a flight of stairs and it would still boot I bet
[06:45] <lenovo_lover> Thanks :)  And yeah, I've seen them sustain more abuse than that and come out fine.
[06:46] <lenovo_lover> I just came back to Mate after a 5 year haitus with GNOME
[06:47] <lenovo_lover> Feels just like where I left off with Ubuntu 10.10 I think.  Fast, and extremely functional.  I'm glad to see that there a lot of people interested in it.
[06:47] <madsa> yeah, but it seems like they need more devs
[06:49] <lenovo_lover> If I were a dev I would love to volunteer my time.
[06:49] <lenovo_lover> Hopefully after the GTK3 port, they will be freed up for feature enhancements.
[06:50] <madsa> yeah, agreed
[06:51] <ouroumov> hm?
[06:51] <ouroumov> What feature are you discussing? =)
[06:52] <lenovo_lover> I see there are several requested features on the dev board, such as batch file rename in caja, etc.
[06:53] <madsa> are you looking at the roadmap?
[06:54] <lenovo_lover> It's not on the roadmap, but in the requests section I think
[06:56] <lenovo_lover> It's 2am in Houston and I have to get some sleep. gnite everyone
[06:58] <madsa> later
[07:41] <javier_> hi im spanish and my english is not well could you tell me a spanish char please? thanks
[07:43] <maximus> Welcome it shows that i have Ubuntumate 16.04 but there is 16.04.1.
[07:44] <maximus> Caja shows all the hdds but will be better to hide some of them like in KDE or XFCE
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[10:43] <awol_> hello just exploring
[10:46] <awol_> bye
[11:41] <mate|31732> Hi, I was wondering if anyone knew how to disable the weird 3d effect that system sounds have?
[11:43] <mate|31732> That is, sounds seem to change their balance depending on where the window is. For example, if the window is on the left half of the screen, sounds play through my left headphone.
[11:53] <mate|31732> Is there a setting in pulseaudio or something to fix this? There doesn't seem to be any setting for it in the sound prefs and MATE seems to be the only DE that has exhibited this behavior.
[12:12] <mate|31732> Ok I found the issue. Pulseaudio is complete trash and disabling the positional module thingy fixes it.
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[12:55] <Guest22707> I've been trying to join the Ubuntu Mate forum, but can't get the site to send me a confirmation email (tried several different addresses). Anybody have an email addy for an admin there?  Thanks.
[15:51] <muere> Was sagt ihr zu München?
[16:08] <laj> hello
[17:04] <pavlushka> laj: Hello
[17:21] <Tintomatic> Does anyone know if it's possible to upgrade from 15.10 to 16.04.1 using the ISO image file?
[17:22] <randall> burn it to advd, or write it to a usb and go through the normal process, there should be an option to keep your files
[17:23] <Tintomatic> The installer has an update option? I never noticed that. I'll give it a try.
[17:57] <jcjordyn120> hey
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[18:20] <pavlushka> jcjordyn120: hey
[18:21] <jcjordyn120> whats up?
[18:24] <pavlushka> jcjordyn120: For now, only me, others went to sleep.
[19:10] <__CoolGuy> hi
[19:10] <SCHAAP137> yo
[19:11] <__CoolGuy> can i install software offline from dvd like debian?
[19:11] <__CoolGuy> is there some links?
[19:12] <__CoolGuy> link*
[19:12] <__CoolGuy> haha
[19:12] <__CoolGuy> some links to download?
[19:15] <amelia__> hello- I am having trouble installing my printer. this was also a problem in UBUNTU but was magically solved. ( I forget how) but! it works for Ebay! just not for anything that needs to print off my email. what to do??
[19:44] <madsa> __CoolGuy: https://ubuntu-mate.org/download/
[19:49] <Akuli> __CoolGuy, you can do the installation offline, but updating offline is going to be a real pain
[19:49] <Akuli> installing software the same thing, not really
[19:50] <pavlushka> Hello Akuli !
[19:50] <Akuli> hi pavlushka
[19:52] <pavlushka> Akuli: seems like __CoolGuy has internet data issue , :) so looking for alternatives may be :)
[19:53] <pavlushka> Sometimes I do suffer from that issue, luckily sometimes, :)
[19:53] <Akuli> i'd personally just use debian
[19:56] <pavlushka> Akuli: may be __CoolGuy is caught between love to Ubuntu-MATE and offline facility for Debian, :)
[19:59] <pavlushka> I just love Ubuntu-MATE, I have strong attachments with old familiar things. Cause Ubuntu used to use Gnome2 and it runs smooth on low specs machine as well, :)
[20:00] <Akuli> you can use mate on debian just fine, just select it at the end of the installation
[20:34] <nicolas46534> hi !
[20:35] <nicolas46534> I just would like to report bad checksum on the ubuntu-mate.org/download/ webpage, the ubuntu-mate-16.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso file hasn't the same checksums than in http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-mate/releases/16.04.1/release/MD5SUMS files
[20:36] <nicolas46534> and sorry if it has already been reported
[20:36] <nicolas46534> can someone confirm that to me please ?
[22:36] <joeshmoe> ok so i am new to this irc thing even tho i guess it has been around for a while, im new to computers in general, or at least software and operating systems and how to run things like an irc
[22:37] <joeshmoe> but i want to learn how to write script, and i want to become a developer
[22:39] <joeshmoe> i know it can't happen overnight
[22:41] <joeshmoe> but i know i am a quick learner and have taught myself how to work ubuntu and i've started to understand html scripting
[22:41] <joeshmoe> just self taught so far but if anyone out there could help or point me in the right direction i would greatly appreciate that person spending their time
[22:42] <joeshmoe> two things in life you can never get back once you have spent them, your time and your words and i will not waste anyones
[22:54] <nomic> joeshmoe use python
[22:54] <nomic> scripting & far more
[22:54] <nomic> & is intrinsic to linux
[22:55] <nomic> python joeshmoe
[22:55] <nomic> you'll get more out of python than HTML
[22:55] <joeshmoe> thank you very much, what is the difference between php, and html and python and c++
[22:55] <nomic> html isn't really anything , is just webside
[22:56] <nomic> python c++ and php are real programming languages
[22:56] <nomic> html is the most basic web script
[22:56] <nomic> python / php are interpreted - c++ is compiled
[22:56] <nomic> hardest to understand/get into =  c++     2nd = php
[22:57] <nomic> 3rd = python
[22:57] <nomic> php is used more for webside / server processing
[22:57] <joeshmoe> ok, because i went anme d started up a command terminal and typed in root and it will only let me run commands in c==
[22:57] <nomic> python is used for everything ... use python
[22:57] <nomic> if you want to learn scipting -> development
[22:57] <joeshmoe> ok i will thank you
[22:57] <nomic> if you start up the pc then get to the bash command shell
[22:57] <nomic> type python
[22:58] <nomic> you are then in the python "interactive shell"
[22:58] <nomic> ctrl-z gets you out of it
[22:58] <joeshmoe> ok i have to run an errand i will be right back ok
[22:59] <joeshmoe> thank you so much
[22:59] <nomic> you are welcome
[22:59] <nomic> learn/use python
[22:59] <nomic> is accessible
[22:59] <nomic> explicit/open
[23:00] <nomic> (interpreted) .. 100% for scripting, as well as programming .. so if you want to learn about scripting, through to development, on linux - use python
[23:00] <nomic> it is intrinsic to linux (used everywhere)
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[23:45] <megazell> Yo!