[00:01] how to i use google talk with ubuntu 14.04 ? [00:01] on pidgin [00:07] avis-: You can't anymore. Google changed the protocols. [00:08] I am using Chrome and want a way a button that allows me to automatically sort my bookmarks into folders that are similar. Any ideas on how to do that? [00:09] R13ose: Have you looked in the associated Google groups online for that? They've got a huge "wiki" for that stuff... [00:10] Bashing-om: sorry, got bumped off the net. looks like with the basic "load" it works fine - I'm going to retry it to make sure it's consistently so. The DPI thing is not as important. what I wonder is if we can compare syslog or some other log file and see a difference in modules that break it [00:10] YankDownUnder: I looked and didn't find anything yet. [00:10] R13ose: Um...you do know that this is the Ubuntu support forum, right? [00:10] YankDownUnder: yes but besides Google Groups where on IRC can I get help with this? [00:11] R13ose: That I'm honestly not sure of... [00:12] R13ose: There *is* a channel -> #chrome [00:12] ubuntu_fail: Think'n .. Just a bit over my skill level . [00:12] YankDownUnder: yep I will ask there [00:14] R13ose: Beyond that there is no native way to do this as far as I know [00:14] thanks [00:14] How would a program know which bookmarks are "similar" [00:15] hey have reason to believe this issue is a ubuntu bug [00:15] Bashing-om: Hmmm.... I treid the game back (haven't rebooted yet) and the frame rate is down to 7 [00:15] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-prime/+bug/1345585, my experience is that at reboot /etc/X11/xorg.conf is moved to xorg.conf.date [00:15] Launchpad bug 1345585 in nvidia-prime (Ubuntu) "xorg.conf with manual config is moved away at upgrade" [Undecided,Confirmed] [00:15] There's like heaps of extensions and "thingos" for dealing with bookmarks in Chrome...just a matter of experimentation - and as well, if one is creative enough, there's a means by which to directly modify the text file(s) that contain the bookmarks...but I digress...it's not really an Ubuntu thingo, is it... [00:15] crafty1: based on either the title or the url. [00:16] YankDownUnder: you are right and I asked in the other room [00:16] ubuntu_fail: Now that makes little sense .. what is going on that loads the system down so ? does 'top' shed any light on system resource consumption ? [00:18] Bashing-om: no real CPU usage; compiz is using 500Mb RAM, but its a 16Gb system [00:18] moving to next room, bye bye [00:21] Bashing-om: systemctl stop networkmanager.service didn't improve things... I'll reboot to see if I can make it fast again [00:22] i was trying to remove encryption on my home folder and i made backup and then deleted my home folder from a root guest profile but i must have messed up because it says my backup file doesnt exist, [00:22] anyway to create a new home folder so i can login? i was following this guide http://www.howtogeek.com/116179/how-to-disable-home-folder-encryption-after-installing-ubuntu/ [00:26] Bashing-om: Argh. So I rebotted and brought up systemctl isolate graphical.target, and now the frame rate is 5-10fps.... [00:26] Bashing-om: this is like when I uninstalled virtualbox - it must have reset some parameter or other, but it gets screwed up on the next reboot [00:27] ubuntu_fail: Wait a tick - everything you're doing is inside Virtualbox? [00:28] specifically can anyone shed light on why /var/lib/info/nvidia-prime.postrm would be run on a system that is just rebooting on a system that doesn't have a switchable gpu [00:28] YankDownUnder: no - it's a clean 16.04 install (yesterday we noted I had an old version of virtualbox, and I unsistalled it thinking it may cause problems via dkms or whatever) - but it's an ubuntu system (dual boot) [00:28] hi guys [00:29] ubuntu_fail: Fair enough, fair enough - just saw "Virtualbox" and my mind went along that path... [00:29] i am trying to install the module for my Real tek wireless [00:29] i run these commands [00:29] http://pastebin.com/vxfPmEGL [00:29] but at the boot if i do modprobe rt3290sta it says that's impossible to find the key [00:29] even though at the boot i proceed in registering the key [00:31] can anyone help me please? [00:31] sh0t: Paitence. [00:31] !patience | sh0t [00:31] sh0t: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/ [00:32] i just felt i was rude not asking "please..." i get it [00:33] sh0t: In the course of 24 hours, there are hundreds of folks that pass through the channels...patience is the best tool/weapon...someone will know how to resolve your issue...hmm...have a cup and relax...all is good [00:52] Basically var/lib/dpkg/info/nvidia-prime.postrm is run at upgrade or install of nvidia-prime and deletes xorg.conf [00:52] this is basically ridiculous [00:52] for some reason any time i reboot my raid needs to resync [00:52] man I really hate ubuntu [00:53] you really have to dig to find out what magic behavior is breaking everything [00:54] people knock more manual setups because they take more time and expertise, how much time and expertise is required to debug magic nonsense [00:54] michaelrose: Um...you do know that "xorg.conf" is setup differently now, right? [00:55] define setup differently? [00:56] i saw on google to try adding "mdadm --wait-clean --scan" to a shutdown script somewhere but i'm not sure where to but it on ubuntu 16.04 [00:56] michaelrose: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config [00:56] hey guys, i just made a web server using ubuntu on my laptop. I'm afraid my laptop may die as I host my site. I simply want to figure out some way to back up my server so that if it goes down I can purchase a new server and rerun the items that were on my laptop [00:56] m4xx: Being that you're dealing with a RAID system, have you though to ask in the #ubuntu-server channel? [00:56] anyone have any ideas on how to ensure my server data isn't lost? [00:56] negative [00:57] I know you can put stuff in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d [00:57] ericx2x: Lookinto how to backup your apache stuff => there's ample information for that. [00:57] this isn't a good reason to manually delete someones xorg.conf [00:57] thank you [00:57] much less do it every time a package is updated [00:57] I'm not using apache i'm using nginx [00:57] its a rails app [00:57] but i can easily backup my site [00:57] i was wondering if i could backup my entire server though [00:58] so i can easily deploy it on a new laptop if my current one dies [00:58] ericx2x: There are heaps of different methods for doing complete backups...system-wide and otherwise. [00:59] ericx2x: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem [01:00] Yeah thats an extremely broad question asking how to backup datae [01:00] I mean you could use tape drives, you could use an offsite backup; the list goes on and on and isnt specific to an OS [01:00] For *me*, on some systems - depending on the size - I generally dd stuff...but that's me... [01:00] dd? [01:01] anyone used vagrant before? [01:01] !backup [01:01] There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning [01:01] CloneZilla is pretty cool [01:01] !clone [01:01] To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can use the !software package "apt-clone" - See also !automate [01:01] ericx2x: Open a term and type "man dd" [01:01] seems dead in there :( [01:01] im on my windows machine right now :\ [01:01] so i can't [01:02] ericx2x: On the web, type "dd+manual" => you'll see what I mean. [01:02] Hey folks, Anyone know any good local file sharing softwares for linux similar to samba? [01:02] just use clonezilla to 'dd' your drive [01:02] I used to love the ancient tape drives and tar... [01:02] /dev/fd0 [01:03] Why do a lot of people have a $ as their computer name in the terminal? [01:03] Gribo: Part of the bash prompt setup. [01:03] Gribo, you should learn bash. [01:03] sounds good thanks guys [01:04] ericx2x: see http://manpages.ubuntu.com/ [01:04] Gribo: That '$' indicates user level system access .. whereas '#" indicates root access . [01:04] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal [01:04] And here all these years I thought the "$" was to show how much money you're saving by not running a Microsoft OS...far out... ;) [01:05] Why don't I see it in my terminal though? [01:05] Nvm lol [01:08] Finetundra: If you dont have any specific set of requirements NFS is similar. Samba is commonly used to communicate with non-UNIX machines. [01:09] Thanks crafty1, I'll check it out === Asiajey_ is now known as Typked === Typked is now known as crukil === crukil is now known as Typked === Typked is now known as Asiajey [01:22] emailed maintainer of package https://gist.github.com/aea06145b72d0cc59b996f5e1c318bc3 [01:25] oh, mint has its own issues [01:28] Yeah gott\a love those bugs that have been unassigned for 2 years [01:29] that unassigned but regarding this very issue is 2 years old and unassigned [01:29] because its not a bug per se its apparantly people are too stupid to go use /user/share/X11/xorg.conf.d [01:30] despite the fact that /etc/X11/xorg.conf is still perfectly valid and shouldn't be randomly bulldozed [01:30] its actually hard to imagine what the developer was even thinking [01:31] What is this NVIDIA-prime package. Can you email the maintainer https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-prime [01:31] its a package that provides support for switchable gpus [01:31] Oh OK I think you had mentioned. I wish the packages had summations on pages like that [01:31] some laptops have a beefy nvidia gpu and a weaker say intel integrated one [01:31] Literally all of its bugs are untouched as to the priority. [01:31] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-prime/+bugs?field.status:list=NEW [01:32] oh ok that makes perfect sense [01:32] and you want to use the weak one when not doing anything that would require a lot of oomf [01:32] There are other bugs if you check that list that are from 2014. TBH it seems the maintainer has vanished === Nach0z_ is now known as Nach0z [01:48] how can I change grub boot order in dual boot machine setup? [01:49] ax562, http://www.howtogeek.com/196655/how-to-configure-the-grub2-boot-loaders-settings/ [01:50] There used to be a fronted that was cool. Cant remember the name. But that article is good. [01:50] Might be the GRUB customizer [01:52] is it this one crafty1 http://askubuntu.com/questions/100232/how-do-i-change-the-grub-boot-order#100246 [01:53] ax562: Yes. [01:53] Its the same thing its just a nice GUI frontend === Wulf4 is now known as Wulf [01:54] its funny how complicated the generated grub.cfg is [01:55] crafty1 yes I agree [01:55] instead of a manual one that is 12 lines long in which you can change boot order but cutting and pasting sections [02:16] if I encrypt ubuntu with full disk encryption will I still be able to search files via grep? [02:17] what i'm really wondering is the mechanism behind the encryption. Does it decrypt everything when you enter in the passphrase or is the passphrase remembered and used independently for every program? [02:17] Trinity: yes you can search files via grep [02:17] Trinity: it's mostly transparent after you've decrypted the disk [02:17] Are you thee Trinity? (In my Neo voice) :p [02:18] SchrodingersScat, would you mind elaborating on what 'mostly transparent' means? [02:19] i guess you decrypt the key used for transparent disk encryption/decryption when you enter a passphrase, but thats just a guess [02:19] Trinity: that all the files appear unencrypted once you're logged in. so if you grep a file then it'll grep. Of course that reverses whenever you haven't supplied the passphrase yet. [02:21] michaelrose: I agree completely. I ran Gentoo for about a year a few years ago, prior to losing my mind and the user generated grub cfgs are great. [02:21] Its great when the user can generate those because if something goes wrong its easier to resolve [02:21] To be entirely clear the disk itself remains encrypted forever, the encryption is usually on a layer entirely below the file system thus only THIS layer worries about encrypting and decrypting [02:21] and this happens in memory [02:22] ah, thank you michaelrose and SchrodingersScat [02:23] michaelrose, if it's not too much to ask... :) would you mind elaborating on layers below the file system? haha :) [02:24] cause i'd think that the file is saved as it's encrypted version and decrypted post passphrase [02:24] it varies there are different approaches, in some you have a fake filesystem on top of the real one, in some the filesystem knows about encryption and handles this, in others its handled by a different layer for example luks [02:25] from my research it would seem that ubuntu's uses luks? what do you mean by a different layer? Would the encrypted content of the filesystem be unencrypted on the fly? [02:25] like ordinarily you create say an ext4 filesystem based on a physical device/partition, instead you can first create a special type of container and create the filesystem on top of that [02:27] whole disk encryption is normally done via luks, the disadvantage one key to unlock the device, one users files not secure from other users on the same machine [02:27] but that isn't usually an issue and it has way better performance than a filesystem on top of the real one like encfs [02:27] hey all [02:28] anyway its a HUGE rabbit hole you could spend a lot of time on, in short use luks [02:28] for ubuntu xenial do you download Wine with sudo apt-get install -y wine [02:29] Maybe it would help for me to explain what I dont get more clearly. Since data is just 0's and 1's you would save a different set of 0's and 1's if the data is encrypted, so when you enter the passphrase I can only see two options, one the encrypted content is saved into RAM or two the encrypted content is decrypted and rewritten into the filesystem or three passphrase is remembered and decryption is on the fly. All three of these methods don't see [02:29] m really pragmatic so i'm sure theres anotehr. But that's my current dilemma. I'm trying to understand how this is accomplished [02:29] I can only see three options* [02:30] basically high level things like text editors and video players don't access files by reading raw data from disk [02:30] django_: yes [02:31] sudo apt-get install wine will install the metapackage [02:31] michaelrose, could you give me the keyword by which they access raw data from disk so I can do my own research? :) [02:32] Trinity, coursera had a really good intro to encryption course let me see if its still there [02:33] https://www.coursera.org/learn/crypto [02:33] you needn't actually do the class or pay any money [02:33] just enroll in the class and watch as much as interests you [02:33] thanks michaelrose, could you let me know how high level programs get information from the disk? [02:36] I really don't understand the low level aspect of it just the impression that a luks device is something like a physical disk saved that the raw data read therein is decrypted using a key [02:37] your passphrase isn't the key it serves to unlock it [02:38] essentially a small header contains one or more copies of the key which can be unlocked by one or more passphrases [02:40] /etc/crypttab contains information about encypted devices, /etc/fstab contains information about filesystems including the forementioned encrpyted ones and how they are mounted [02:41] michaelrose, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Device_mapper I think this is the middleman you were talking about :) === KindOne_ is now known as KindOne [02:50] damn michael rose you sound like a smart dude [02:54] Can anyone tell me what init.d script is responsible for writing the contents of /var/lib/update-notifier/updates-available? [03:15] hackerhercules, try running 'dpkg -S /var/lib/update-notifier' which should give you a clue [03:15] will at least tell you which package owns that directory [03:15] and then you can figure out init script from there [03:16] madsa Just the lead I needed, thank you. Trying to steal the function of the 90-updates-available script in /etc/update-motd.d to customize and format my motd with additional information [03:25] is there some archive of older package versions in the repos somewhere? [03:30] madsa Thanks again - tracked down the script it calls after doing some hunting [03:30] hackerhercules, cool, glad that helped [03:32] is there a way to show file transfer speed in ubuntu 16.04 desktop ? [03:33] it just shows progress bar, i need to see the speed [03:37] Kyoku, maybe try iftop or dstat packages [03:37] de-facto, what exactly are you trying to do? [03:38] de-facto, if you just need an old package you can try looking it up here: http://packages.ubuntu.com [03:45] madsa: Just for the fun of knowing, the update notification is called by /usr/lib/update-notifier/apt-check --human-readable, which is a function passed to it from an imported compiled python file. Can't change it without a complete recompile. Sad day. [03:46] thanks madsa - dstat is perfect for the job [03:55] I keep getting a "register" message; I'm registered though. Any way to resolve this? [03:56] ahrc333ff: Ask that in #freenode channel . [03:57] k. thx [03:57] but, i'm gettint eh message from #ubuntu-unregged, if it makes a difference [04:01] !register | ahrc333ff Does this hlp ? [04:01] ahrc333ff Does this hlp ?: Information about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode [04:02] hey guys, what is the best Music Tagging CL i can use for ubuntu ? === sul-fyr is now known as sulfyr [04:03] Thx. Unfortunately, when I reattempt the registration process i just get this message "You are already logged in as ahrc333ff." The only channel that gives me this problem is #ubuntu [04:30] ahrc333ff: Maybe ask in #ubuntu-ops . [04:39] exit [04:39] close [04:45] Hey everyone. I am running a server using the screen command. Is there a way that I can set a monitor on it and automatically restart it if it crashes? [04:48] Bashing-om: thx, will do [04:52] delizin, you could try 'while 1; do mycommandtorun; done' [04:53] that should work if the server process doesn't daemonize [04:53] madsa: Thanks, I'll keep that in mind. After I asked my question I found some documentation on Upstart and am giving that a try first [04:54] yeah, upstart may be the better option than my cheap and easy trick [04:54] madsa: you forgot the vital step of running screen first [04:55] or adding a nohup [04:56] right, my assumption was that screen was already running, but yes [05:14] evening :) [05:20] hey, i'm having issues with 14.04 and 16.04, which I thought would be stable (LTS?) [05:20] i've setup a new work machine which i plan to use for deep learning stuff, and i'm running into issues with ubuntu; i'd think they're not specific to the hardware but you never know [05:21] gajop, what seems to be the problem? [05:21] with 16.04 there are even issues during installation: it complains midway that installation fails, but it also finishes, and when i reboot into it and try to login, nothing happens (i assume the installation is only half-way done) [05:22] so i gave up on 16.04 seeing as it may still be fairly untested due to being new, and tried 14.04, which i could install at least [05:22] have you tried the latest 16.04.1 iso? It's out now [05:22] but 14.04 is freezing my system (kernel crash?) from time to time... i often get back to work when i leave it all night to see it restarted, and it sometimes crashes in front of me [05:23] right now i'm getting an "internal error" with linux package and a soft lockup of CPU#0 (KernelOops) [05:23] madsa: i haven't tried it if it just got released [05:23] well if nothing else works that be a good option [05:24] what is considered the "most stable" ubuntu platform? i rarely use it on my home desktop but opted for it because i thought it would be fairly guaranteed to work [05:25] official releases aren't "untested"... [05:25] yep, I think 16.04.1 is most stable right now. I personally haven't had much trouble with it on my laptop [05:26] is there a third alternative if neither work for me? how can i even troubleshoot kernel errors? [05:26] sounds like your puter is b0rked - have you run something else on it before? [05:26] yeah, with a kernel error you'd be best to post a bug on launchpad with the details [05:27] hopefully it's not your hardware going bad [05:27] FManTropyx: no, as i said i just set it up [05:27] a neew computer? [05:27] well it's still under guarantee but if i have no way to troubleshoot it.. [05:27] correct [05:27] ah, maybe run hw diagnostics on it [05:28] Ubuntu should really work :) [05:28] gajop, what kind of computer is it? specs? [05:29] it's an i5 with titan x and 8GB RAM (with 32GB more on the way) [05:29] ubuntu's installed on an SSD [05:29] and i've got one more HDD for large storage [05:30] it's pretty beastly and nvidia should work well -> this doesn't seem related to the GFX anyway [05:30] kernel version? [05:30] which package do i have to install to get gstreamer's rtspclientsink ? [05:30] idk, newest on 14.04 [05:30] gajop, run 'uname -a' on the console [05:31] I'm using 16.04 LTS [05:31] 4.2.0-42-generic [05:31] titan X is introduced 3 days ago .. hard to believe you have it already :-D [05:32] GeForce GTX Titan X[56] March 17, 2015 [05:32] ;o [05:33] not to be confused with: NVIDIA TITAN X[64] August 2, 2016 [05:35] gajop, 12gb of video ram? [05:36] yea [05:43] gajop, i would do a memtest86 run first, to exclude your ram being the culprit [05:43] !ops [05:43] Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Pici, Myrtti, jrib, Amaranth, tonyyarusso, Nalioth, lamont, CarlK, elky, mneptok, PriceChild, Tm_T, jpds, ikonia, Flannel, genii, wgrant, stdin, h00k, IdleOne, nhandler, Jordan_U, popey, Corey, ocean, cprofitt, djones, Madpilot, gnomefreak, lhavelund, k1l, rww, phunyguy, bazhang, chu [05:43] !ops [05:43] !ops [05:43] !ops [05:43] !ops [05:45] OerHeks: alright, i'll give it a try, any other tests i can run before trying 16.04.1 again or switching to some other distro? [05:45] after that, run a live iso and try checkbox-qt http://askubuntu.com/questions/389084/system-testing-tool-for-ubuntu or UBcd with testtools [05:46] as you have issues with both, it does not really matter now, 14.04 or 16.04.1 [05:47] the 16.04 (didn't try 16.04.1) issue is completely different though imo [05:47] my PC didn't freeze/restart, the installation process got interrupted half way but still gave me the next install wizard option [05:48] yeah, hopefully they've made a fix for the installer w/ 16.04.1 [05:49] only one way to find out [05:49] right, will try that tomorrow probably [06:28] how do I find out my wifi card's vendor id? [06:29] Kartagis: lspci -vvv maybe? [06:29] Kartagis, depends, lsusb or lspci for usb or pci cards [06:31] 03:00.0 <--- is this it? [06:31] i think so [06:31] no [06:31] no, it is a 8 digit hexcode , A1B4:C067 or like that [06:33] try lspci -nv [06:34] So about 24 hours later and still no progress on the reinstallation of Ubuntu [06:34] It won't connect to the internet wirelessly either [06:35] mach20x, you not able to install for some reason? [06:52] i'm having trouble installing drivers for 750ti on 14.04. i have done --no-x-check, and tried removing .X0-lock but i don't have permissions. any suggetions? [06:52] +s [06:56] Hello. Is it possible to set up midnight commander to show number of items in a directory? [06:57] afotek, don't know... but you can run something like 'ls -1 | wc -l' from the command line to get an item count [07:00] madsa, yes, I tried this solution, but it would've been nice if it was able to show it in mini-status for example, like in usual explorer [07:02] weird though. pcidatabase.com reports different digits for my wifi card EriC^^ [07:04] Anyone have the 411 on reinstallation and what to do if it stalls? [07:08] Hi everyone, I've got lots and lots of "ureadahead:4/stat: Ignored relative path" messages on my Ubuntu server 16.04, and hundreas more of ureqadhead errors. What is it? [07:10] nschoe, that's ureadahead, it does caching of files for boot time to speed things up [07:11] not sure why you're getting the errors though [07:11] madsa, hum okay. But it is supposed to execute only on reboot, then? [07:12] madsa, I'm asking because we've had a failure around midnight, and all our systems are down. but the serveru itself is up and runnig, I could log in ssh [07:12] So now I'm planing find the needle in the haystack in the syslog, and I see literally hundreas od these lines [07:13] well according to the launchpad page, it says that it loads a cronjob to regenerate the cache from time to time [07:13] which may be what you're seeing [07:13] https://launchpad.net/ureadahead [07:14] sorry your systems are down... I feel your pain. I got paged at 2am yesterday because out db server ran out of disk space :) [07:15] madsa, ah thanks for your support [07:16] This is appreciated. We currently don't have a sysadmin anymore, so I'm interim sysadmin. But this is not my job ^^ [07:16] madsa, I would have preferred being paged at 2 a.m. though, because I would have time to do things. Now it's 9 and the demo starts... soon. Of course it's a demo day, you know hos this is. [07:19] nschoe: Just for giggles and grins - has an "fsck" been run on the volume(s) of that server recently? [07:31] YankDownUnder, nope, the server is about a month old [07:31] YankDownUnder, why? You think this may have messed something, OR I should have run one before? [07:43] nschoe: Since you've stated that "things went down" - generally, when I'm faced with issues like that, the first thing I do on linux/unix boxes is to check the filesystems before going back into production...just as a matter of rote...small issues can turn into really huge issues...and I prefer to nip them in the bud quicksmart. [07:48] YankDownUnder, thanks for the tip, I'll be running one then [07:48] nschoe: Good to be paranoid, bro. [07:48] Absolutely. [07:58] can anyone here help me [07:58] i have no networking fresh install ubuntu 16 [07:59] "No networking"? [07:59] hello, lspci would also show devices with no drivers right? [07:59] kk INTERESTING problem [07:59] my pcmcia ethernet dose not show up at all and my wireless shows up but i dont know how to get it to go, it says some error when i do wpasuplicant [08:00] soppman: lspci will tell you what is connected to the PCI bus... [08:00] YankDownUnder, ok thanks [08:00] olf-folks: Is there no means by which you can connect this machine to ethernet in order to possibly download drivers and updates? [08:01] YankDownUnder: no, no networking usb wifi no pcmcia eth0 no [08:01] YankDownUnder: unless you mean windows xp that it can dualboot back to [08:01] olf-folks: The wifi - is that also on the PCMCIA card? [08:01] google chrome won't run in desktop (ubuntu 14.04 cinamon) NORMALLY i can get it to run using su -c and it works through ssh on another computer [08:01] YankDownUnder: no that is usb [08:02] YankDownUnder: and showsup via ifconfig === andyhuzhill1 is now known as andyhuzhill [08:02] olf-folks: If you boot this machine without the PCMCIA card in it (the ethernet, I presume), but DO have the USB based wifi plugged in, does that work, or have you tried that as of yet? === Kenrinx is now known as kenrin [08:03] YankDownUnder: yeah that is the first thing i tried [08:03] olf-folks: Well, I'd remove the PCMCIA card, and then fire up the network manager and see if that gets you connected to the wifi... [08:04] YankDownUnder: did i mention there is no gui [08:04] i am working from tty [08:04] olf-folks: "No GUI" - at all? [08:05] no just terminal [08:05] olf-folks: Lovely. [08:06] olf-folks: you're not running a gui or it doesn't work? [08:06] ducasse: it is not installed, and i would prefer to keep it that way [08:06] server? [08:06] olf-folks: Read this, mate: http://askubuntu.com/questions/461825/connect-to-wifi-from-command-line [08:07] OerHeks: it seems the 8GB RAM (probably one of the two 4GB modules) has errors [08:07] Tin_man: yup [08:07] the 32GB seems fine though [08:07] olf-folks: This tells you how to identify wifi networks along with how to use nmcli to connect, my friend. [08:07] so uhm, what does one do now? should i assume almost all data (on the HDD/SSD) is corrupted as well? [08:08] olf can you ssh into it? [08:09] YankDownUnder: the linke you refer to [08:10] YankDownUnder: still is useing programs and tools i dont have access to [08:10] olf-folks: Yersh...? [08:10] olf-folks: So on that "fresh install", you don't have "nmcli"? [08:10] Tin_man: no i have physicl aceess to a vtty [08:10] k [08:11] do you have another wifi usb dongle you can use? [08:11] olf-folks: "ifconfig -a" will list the "devices" that you can connect with...? [08:11] YankDownUnder: yes and it shows up [08:12] Tin_man: If you want to assist, please do. Two people trying to cook the soup is only going to lead to confusion. [08:12] YankDownUnder: no [08:12] olf-folks: Can you type: nmcli d wifi list [08:12] YankDownUnder: it is a part of network-manager which i do not have [08:12] go for it YankDownUnder .. === andyhuzhill1 is now known as andyhuzhill [08:13] olf-folks: So that is NOT part of the installation? Was this a "minimal" installation? [08:13] YankDownUnder: i could type that but it would only me a oh so usefull message "do apt-get install network-namager" [08:13] <\9> i'd imagine even a minimal installation should come with network-manager... something must have gone wrong [08:14] olf-folks: Right oh...gotcha...right...so here's a question - HOW did you do your install...was it via a liveUSB or something else? [08:14] \9: actually, no. i installed from the server image, and nm is not installed. [08:15] <\9> oh? that's weird [08:15] olf-folks: just one question - you say wpa_supplicant throws an error - can you be more specific? [08:15] YankDownUnder: i used plopbootmgr to boot via usb the flashd i dd the ubuntu iso from [08:15] ducasse: hold on a sec [08:15] \9: not really :) i use /etc/network/interfaces, which is what the installer sets up unless you install a desktop that depends on nm. [08:16] <\9> hm [08:18] olf-folks: Check this out - it's about establishing a connection without network manager: https://www.thinkpenguin.com/gnu-linux/how-configure-wifi-card-using-command-line-or-terminal [08:21] ducasse: http://www.imgpaste.net/image/KO8Ea [08:21] http://www.imgpaste.net/image/KO8Ea === marshal0605 is now known as marshal0505 [08:21] Good Morning. [08:24] I am fighting my disk size again. I have just freed up another 500gb from my windows partition which i want to use under ubuntu. However it seems i might have to shovel things like root etc around. I am a bit unsure how i would approach things right now. sdba is my ssd and sdb a normal harddrive [08:24] ducasse: do you think it autodetect the wrong driver? [08:24] olf-folks: see this: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/WPA_supplicant#nl80211_driver_not_supported_on_some_hardware [08:24] ok [08:30] ducasse: well that gets me a bit closer now i have this http://www.imgpaste.net/image/KOljq === nameless1 is now known as nameless [08:31] Hello everyone. I'm trying to use Upstart to keep a server running. However everytime upstart executes the script, either from 'start service' or rebooting the VPS, it starts multiple instances of the server which all interfere with each other. After a few minutes there is normally only one instance running, but it is broken due to a file lock or socket lock. I'm quite new to this and really appreciate any guidance. Thanks. http:// [08:31] olf-folks: "The requested page was not found" [08:32] ducasse: my bad im typeing the urls out http://www.imgpaste.net/image/KOIjq [08:35] delizin: make sure it doesn't background itself [08:36] olf-folks: looks to me like the driver for your chipset is not supported, do you have another adapter you can use? [08:37] I have just done a fresh install of 16.04 desktop (coming from 14.04). I like to use the right Windows key as the compose key, so I have set it as such in Keyboard->Shortcuts. However, it doesn't work, and when I press right-win I just get the "Search your Computer" bar up, same as if I press left-win. any suggestions? [08:38] geirha: I'm afraid I don't understand what you mean. The script that upstart is executing is just running 3 lines, it deletes a lock file in the server directory incase of a crash, changes directory to the server folder and then starts the server with screen. [08:40] delizin: Then upstart can't know it's running. And deleting the lock file unconditionally kind of defeats the purpose of a lock file [08:41] geirha: I'm not deleting an upstart lock file. The server has a data folder that has a lock file. Unfortunately it has numerous crashes and doesn't clean up the lock file properly so I need to manually delete it before the server will restart [08:43] delizin: but that's the reason why it starts multiple instances [08:44] olf-folks: another possibility, is there an alternative driver for that chipset? [08:45] geirha: If I leave the lock file in place, upstart is still starting multiple instances but each process stalls when they see that the lock file exists. Unfortunately this program does not fail gracefully at all so the process continues running even after failing to load. [08:46] sounds like you need to figure out a better script [08:47] delizin: Yeah this application you're trying to start is really fragile, and it's hard to manage it when it doesn't follow common practices [08:49] delizin: the reason it starts multiple instances is because upstart has no way of knowing whether the application got started or not. From upstart's perspective, screen started and died immediately. === cigumo_ is now known as cigumo [08:57] (how) can i install this package? https://packages.debian.org/source/experimental/imagemagick [08:57] sudo apt-get install imagemagick [08:58] Ben64, you are a genius! [09:00] geirha: Thank you for the help, that got me to where I needed to be by excluding screen and running the application directly. [09:00] Ben64: ... [09:00] Ben64: i specifically mean _that_ package [09:00] in _that_ version [09:00] good luck [09:00] jokke: that's a debian package - don't. [09:00] ducasse: ubuntu is debian based, no? [09:01] jokke: _based_. [09:01] installing packages not meant for your system is a Bad Idea™ [09:01] jokke if you need that version, build it yourself [09:01] what's so special about 6.9 that 6.8 doesn't have? [09:01] geirha: it's 0.1 more [09:01] i was afraid you'd say that [09:02] oh well [09:02] geirha: 6.8 has a weird bug with borders [09:02] jokke: file a request for a backport. [09:02]