[00:50]  * thumper stretches
[00:50] <thumper> that is some tests passing now...
[00:50] <thumper> time to take the dog for a walk
[01:24] <mwhudson> anastasiamac: building a new juju-mongodb3.2 now in my ppa \o/
[01:24] <mwhudson> at least half the time on the update was spent getting confused by dos line endings, grr
[01:59] <anastasiamac> mwhudson: m sure they'd ab lots ppl very happy :) tyvm!
[04:36] <axw> thumper: apart from the two things I've commented on your PR, it looks fine to me
[04:37] <thumper> axw: the pubsub one?
[04:37] <axw> thumper: sorry yeah
[04:37] <axw> thumper: and they're not showstoppers, just my preference to avoid reflection, and I think the channel stuff could be simplified but otherwise it's ok
[05:32] <menn0> thumper: http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/5303/ pls
[05:50] <thumper> menn0: done
[06:51] <rogpeppe2> axw: ping
[06:52] <axw> rogpeppe: pong
[06:52] <rogpeppe> axw: hiya
[06:52] <rogpeppe> axw: i was just wondering about user-namespaced model names
[06:53] <rogpeppe> axw: if there are two models with the same name in a controller but under two different user namespaces, how would i switch to each?
[06:53] <axw> rogpeppe: juju switch owner/model
[06:53] <axw> rogpeppe: it was done and dusted, but got backed out as it broke a CI test. waiting on a change to CI being merged before landing again
[06:54] <rogpeppe> axw: ah! that's why i don't see it!
[06:54] <rogpeppe> axw: i thought you'd done something but couldn't find it
[06:54] <axw> rogpeppe: should be back in tomorrow I think
[06:54] <rogpeppe> axw: cool
[06:55] <axw> assuming master remains unblocked
[06:55] <rogpeppe> axw: did you update the docs for juju switch too?
[06:55] <axw> rogpeppe: hmm not sure now, but I don't remember doing it. I'll make sure they're up to date when I re-land
[06:55] <rogpeppe> axw: thanks
[07:26]  * dimitern is going offline for ~30m (scheduled power cut)
[09:15] <hoenir> so if the fix is commited why does it appear on this ? http://juju.fail/
[09:16] <mup> Bug #1606487 opened: apt-mirror does not override security.ubuntu.com for controller <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1606487>
[09:34] <dimitern> hoenir: because it's not Fix Release yet
[09:34] <dimitern> should be once 1.25.7 is out
[09:43] <axw> fwereade_: what's wrong with OpenParams? I'm hesitant to change only because it's consistent with just about every other param struct we use
[09:50] <fwereade_> axw, it's not specific to Open
[09:51] <fwereade_> axw, it's naming the type for one of its uses, instead of for what it really *is*
[09:52] <axw> fwereade_: environs.New shouldn't even exist. it's just a short-cut around the global provider registry, and EnvironProvider.Open
[09:52] <axw> fwereade_: if it didn't exist, it would be specific to Open :/
[09:53] <axw> fwereade_: trying to think of another name. Definition doesn't really sit right with me, because I don't think credentials define an environ
[09:53] <fwereade_> axw, yeah, nor with me
[09:54] <fwereade_> axw, so if you can't think of anything better, go for it -- but I still really doubt this type will be used *exclusively* when calling Open
[09:55] <hoenir> thanks dimitern
[09:56] <axw> fwereade_: I'm trying very hard to make Open be the only thing that cares about creds/cloud definition, so I really hope it is. I'll ponder, but otherwise I think I'll defer renaming until we have another user - it would probably be clearer what to call it then anyway.
[09:57] <fwereade_> axw, ack, thanks for pondering :)
[09:58] <fwereade_> axw, tyvm for all the recent refactoring, btw, it is gruelling to review but well worth it
[09:58] <axw> fwereade_: cool, and thanks for reviewing. pretty gruelling to change too :p
[09:58] <axw> I'm especially not looking forward to adding cloud/creds into OpenParams
[09:58] <fwereade_> axw, ha, yeah
[09:59] <axw> only 65 call sites
[09:59]  * fwereade_ shudders gently
[10:01] <mup> Bug #1606506 opened: juju should tell maas to use a kernel with all required features <oil> <oil-2.0> <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1606506>
[10:04] <axw> mgz: any chance of a review on the juju-ci-tools MP?
[10:10] <mup> Bug #1606506 changed: juju should tell maas to use a kernel with all required features <oil> <oil-2.0> <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1606506>
[10:16] <mup> Bug #1606506 opened: juju should tell maas to use a kernel with all required features <oil> <oil-2.0> <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1606506>
[10:21] <dimitern> dooferlad: cheers for the write-up!
[10:21] <dimitern> dooferlad: I got a bit carried away suggesting and commenting :)
[10:21] <dooferlad> dimitern: thanks!
[10:21] <dooferlad> dimitern: no worries!
[10:22] <dimitern> dooferlad: it also helped me get into the right train of thought w.r.t. the sprint prep around IPAM
[10:22] <dooferlad> dimitern: would you like to hop into a conversation with macgreagoir and me?
[10:22] <dooferlad> dimitern: just in a hangout
[10:23] <dimitern> can do in 2m though
[10:23] <dooferlad> dimitern: https://hangouts.google.com/hangouts/_/canonical.com/release-team
[10:23] <dooferlad> dimitern: see you when you get here
[11:13] <babbageclunk> dimitern: ping?
[11:18] <babbageclunk> fwereade_: you around?
[11:21] <dimitern> babbageclunk: I am, but I'm just going out - will be back ~1h though
[11:22] <babbageclunk> dimitern: Ok cool - will go for a run now. Talk to you later!
[11:22]  * babbageclunk goes for a run.
[11:40] <frankban|afk> fwereade_: hi, can I ask you a question a bout controller's and model's config?
[12:29] <rogpeppe> axw: ping
[13:25] <katco> everyone, pencils down. we can stop working on juju. emacs has solved the problem: https://github.com/cjohansson/emacs-ssh-deploy
[13:25] <mup> Bug # opened: 1606566, 1606568, 1606569, 1606571
[13:43] <natefinch> dooferlad: looks like we screwed windows when we dropped most of our ciphersuites
[14:02] <dimitern> rick_h_: standup ?
[14:05] <katco> frobware: standup?
[14:19] <jam1> mgz: I just filed https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/5870 but it doesn't look like reviewboard picked it up
[14:19] <dimitern> babbageclunk: wanna chat in the other HO (networking tests)?
[14:19] <dimitern> https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/canonical.com/networking
[14:19] <babbageclunk> dimitern: oh, yes please! See you there.
[14:25] <frobware> balloons: sorry I missed our meeting; was debugging IPv6 and my network lost it!
[14:25] <frobware> katco: ^^ ditto
[14:25] <katco> frobware: lol that is a good excuse! :)
[14:55] <anastasiamac> jam1: reviewed
[14:59] <jam1> thanks anastasiamac, still hasn't shown up
[15:00] <jam> (on Reviewboard)
[15:01] <anastasiamac> jam: i have seen some proposals that behave this way. I've reviewed on github, You should b good to land \o/ Do we want to backport it to 1.25 too?
[15:02] <jam> anastasiamac: did we backport the other 'status' changes? Like putting the 'model' 'controller' sections?
[15:02] <jam> if so, then yes
[15:03] <anastasiamac> jam: m not sure if model/controller exist on 1.25
[15:03] <anastasiamac> :)
[15:04] <anastasiamac> jam: if address/port order change needs to be backported, it'll need to handcrafted (!) rather than cherry-picked \o/
[15:33] <babbageclunk> dimitern: ipAddressDoc doesn't have mac address! Should I use linkLayerDeviceDocs to populate the interfaceInfo?
[15:34] <babbageclunk> dimitern: duh, reading that it's obvious - of course an ip address doesn't have a mac address.
[15:34] <dimitern> babbageclunk: yeah :)
[15:55] <mup> Bug #1606611 opened: test log spammed with TLS handshake <logging> <tech-debt> <testing> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1606611>
[16:00] <dimitern> any reviews welcome btw: https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/5871
[16:02]  * dimitern is outta here
[16:04] <mup> Bug #1606611 changed: test log spammed with TLS handshake <logging> <tech-debt> <testing> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1606611>
[16:10] <mup> Bug #1606611 opened: test log spammed with TLS handshake <logging> <tech-debt> <testing> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1606611>
[16:11] <mup> Bug #1606617 opened: juju not using image-stream-url for container images <lxd> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1606617>
[16:23] <mup> Bug #1606617 changed: juju not using image-stream-url for container images <lxd> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1606617>
[16:26] <mup> Bug #1606617 opened: juju not using image-stream-url for container images <lxd> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1606617>
[17:02] <frobware> rick_h_:  With my ipv6 only environment now working (huzzah) my first bootstrap using the manual provider failed (boo!).  Will start to accumulate my setup notes tomorrow.
[17:41] <mup> Bug # changed: 1440097, 1455629, 1572634, 1572637, 1573286, 1584626, 1592537, 1600539, 1602231, 1603133, 1603585, 1604006
[17:59] <natefinch> dude our tests suck
[18:26] <natefinch> gaahhhh
[18:44] <mup> Bug #1606658 opened: local charm does not deploy updated version after removing application and deploying application <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1606658>
[18:50] <katco> looks like github is acting up
[18:51] <katco> annnd we're back
[20:23] <mup> Bug #1606684 opened: upgrade-charm fails to upgrade local charm <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1606684>
[20:50] <mup> Bug #1606663 changed: cannot juju ssh to lxd machine in non-default model <juju-core:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1606663>
[21:20] <mup> Bug #1606569 changed: transient "agent is lost" <oil> <oil-2.0> <v-pil> <juju-core:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1606569>
[21:20] <mup> Bug #1606658 changed: local charm does not deploy updated version after removing application and deploying application <juju-core:New for anastasia-macmood> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1606658>
[21:41] <katco> perrito666: ping
[21:41] <perrito666> katco: pong
[21:42] <katco> perrito666: hey is that offer to get connected up to my environment's mongo still good?
[21:42] <perrito666> katco: always </snape>
[21:42] <katco> hehe
[21:50] <mup> Bug #1606706 opened: MachinerSuite.TestMachinerMachineAssignedUnits fails intermittently <intermittent-failure> <test-failure> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1606706>
[21:59] <thumper> oh poop
[21:59] <thumper> I had assumed that the factory method for creating machines with volumes actually took all the params into account... but it appears not to
[21:59] <mup> Bug #1606709 opened: manual provider shows started machine as "pending" <manual-provider> <status> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1606709>
[21:59] <thumper> or at least it removes the pool name
[22:14] <thumper> ah... go, sometimes you suck badly
[22:14] <thumper> ffs
[22:14]  * thumper thinks
[22:24] <thumper> nope, that was me
[22:29] <mup> Bug #1606711 opened: When add-machine exits with nonzero status, rerunning add-machine can produce a duplicate <add-machine> <ci> <intermittent-failure> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1606711>
[22:34] <perrito666> bb just in time for standup
[22:40] <menn0> thumper: http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/5308/ pls
[22:58] <thumper> menn0: shipit
[22:58] <menn0> thumper: thanks
[23:16] <thumper> perrito666: ping
[23:41] <thumper> volume export tests passing, now to work in imports after lunch