[14:45] <genii> BobJonkman: That article about elevators was pretty interesting
[14:46] <BobJonkman> I was thinking of you when I read it!
[14:46] <BobJonkman> http://sn.jonkman.ca/conversation/605858#notice-969352
[14:48] <chile> any body into ubuntu cloud
[14:49] <BobJonkman> chile: Do you mean the UbuntuOne service? I used it briefly, but I don't like putting my personal stuff on someone else's server.
[14:49] <BobJonkman> And I think UbuntuOne no longer exists...
[14:50] <chile> no sir
[14:51] <chile> i want to use ubuntu server for sharing  services for my office users
[14:51] <BobJonkman> chile: What kind of services?
[14:52] <chile> office softwares and storag
[14:52] <chile> this has got huge scope in INdia
[14:54] <chile> i am looking for a team
[14:54] <chile> i can work with
[14:54] <chile> and offer solutions
[14:55] <BobJonkman> There's a great integrated office suite available at https://wiki.enterpriselibre.org/index.php/Main_Page
[14:55] <BobJonkman> Everything runs as remote access sessions on a GNU/Linux server
[14:56] <BobJonkman> I haven't used it yet, but it looks promising.
[14:56] <BobJonkman> Of course, there's always Nextcloud: https://nextcloud.com/
[14:57] <BobJonkman> That's "Enterprise grade" file sharing, some collaboration. No real collaborative applications, tho.
[14:57] <bregma> chile, do you mean using Ubuntu server in the cloud, like Amazon AWS or Microsoft Azure?
[14:58] <chile> yes
[14:58] <chile> but aws is costly implementation
[14:58] <chile> i want local smaller implementation f the same
[14:59] <bregma> chile, http://www.ubuntu.com/cloud/openstack
[14:59] <chile> bregma i installed it on my laptop
[14:59] <chile> to see and explre it..but it needs a lot more than that
[14:59] <chile> u see
[15:00] <bregma> not my area of expertise I'm afraid, I just know of its existence and let my IT department handle the details
[15:00] <BobJonkman> chile: Do you mean you want to find a local hosting VPS provider?
[15:01] <chile> i want to be one
[15:01] <BobJonkman> chile: Aahhh! Good idea!
[15:02] <bregma> http://www.ubuntu.com/cloud/openstack/autopilot
[15:02] <chile> bregma bob..any help appreciated
[15:04] <chile> when i tried doint it i could not go beyond maas
[15:04] <chile> because it started asking details of h/w i dint had
[15:04] <BobJonkman> chile: I've been wanting to install a VPS management tool for a while. Right now I'm using VirtualBox on my laptop for development, but my laptop drive is at capacity and it's not portable, and not accessible to clients unless I happen to be online.
[15:05] <chile> so u do use virtual box as live
[15:05] <chile> ?
[15:05]  * genii makes another pot of coffee
[15:05] <chile> can i do that
[15:05] <BobJonkman> chile: But I've only got as far as you. I get to the MAAS installatin screen, think "This would be really great, but no time right now", and leave it for a few months until the next Ubuntu release come out
[15:07] <chile> bregma.. ur team uses autopilot??
[15:07] <BobJonkman> chile: I've run VirtualBox for demonstrations; eg. I've set up several GNUsocial instances or ownCloud instances so the audience can actually play with the software and follow along as I'm doing the demonstration
[15:08] <chile> from what i i understand not much things can be done owncloud
[15:08] <chile> u see
[15:08] <BobJonkman> chile: But it's a one-time use, not intended for production
[15:08] <chile> not it cant be
[15:08] <BobJonkman> chile: I do run ownCloud and GNUsocial in production for my own use.
[15:09] <BobJonkman> But those instances run on a physical server, not a VPS.
[15:09] <chile> ya got it
[15:09] <chile> i installed owncloud on my domain
[15:09] <chile> but all this things are not actually contributing
[15:09] <chile> u know whatsapp comes easier than this
[15:10]  * BobJonkman does a quick search to find out what Whatsapp is..
[15:11] <chile> ohk im sorry whatsapp is like wechat and gtalk
[15:11] <BobJonkman> Hmm... Seems like the client app only, no server software available. And proprietary clients at that...
[15:12] <chile> no no
[15:12] <chile> for that use telegram
[15:12] <chile> point is it should be practicle even if local
[15:12] <BobJonkman> I run a Prosody XMPP server, that provides real-time communication.  I'm at xmpp:bjonkman@sobac.com if  you want to connect with a Jabber client
[15:13] <BobJonkman> Open standards are the only standards for me!
[15:15] <chile> correct
[15:17] <chile> bob noted ur jabber i will catch u once i reach home ..see ya
[15:17] <BobJonkman> Bye chile!
[15:18]  * BobJonkman notices genii's coffee
[15:18] <genii> I wonder whatever happened to AccessGrid
[15:18]  * genii slides BobJonkman a fresh mug
[15:19] <BobJonkman> Aahhh.
[15:22] <BobJonkman> genii: AccessGrid website still exists, but it looks like the software was last update in 2010 http://www.accessgrid.org/
[15:26] <genii> I thought they had it also on github or another git site, but can't seem to find it
[15:27] <bregma> What happened to accessgrid?  Smart phones and walled-garden app stores lured people like the heroin dealer on the corner, that's what.
[15:28] <bregma> It's so easy, just a little pinprick in your data stream and you think of nothing else.
[15:28] <BobJonkman> bregma: sad...
[15:29] <BobJonkman> Just as I thought we were making progress in the Free Software world, suddenly we're all hippie anarchist radicals again
[15:29] <bregma> some of us never stopped
[15:29] <bregma> just getting a little slower in the morning
[15:30]  * BobJonkman is a proud hippie anarchist radical
[15:30] <bregma> I would classify myself as an anarcho-syndicalist, but I have enjoyed a good Grateful Dead concert in my time
[15:31]  * genii hums Casey Jones
[15:47] <harsh410> hi bob
[16:06] <BobJonkman> Hi harsh410
[16:08] <harsh410> sent a request on your jabber
[16:08] <harsh410> harsh410
[16:09] <harsh410> we were discussing the cloud
[16:14] <genii> Interesting, github accessgrid last commit was July 2012. Couple years later than the version on the main site, but of course, still 4 years ago now. Going to tinker with it a bit today.