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| === thumper-dogwalk is now known as thumper | ||
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| hikiko | hi | 05:24 |
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| * qengho snubs hikiko. | 05:26 | |
| duflu | Ummkay | 05:29 |
| duflu | Good morning | 05:29 |
| RAOF | Hey hikiko! | 05:31 |
| hikiko | Hey duflu, RS | 05:37 |
| hikiko | RAOF :p | 05:38 |
| hikiko | How are you? | 05:38 |
| qengho | Please forgive me, hikiko! | 05:39 |
| qengho | Good morning, all. | 05:39 |
| duflu | So errm you guys come here often? | 05:39 |
| RAOF | I'm pretty good. | 05:40 |
| hikiko | Lol, what ? qengho ? Good morning to you too!:-p | 05:40 |
| qengho | hikiko: Please don't melt today. | 05:41 |
| hikiko | Oh, I didn't scroll up enough I didn't see you snubbed | 05:41 |
| hikiko | qengho it's not very warm today, atm we have around 27 | 05:43 |
| qengho | Wow, that's really good. | 05:44 |
| hikiko | What's the weather in Taiwan ? | 05:44 |
| qengho | Mid 30s today. | 05:44 |
| RAOF | And 125% humidity? | 05:45 |
| hikiko | Heh, similar to here (except today) | 05:45 |
| hikiko | lol raof that describes my city | 05:46 |
| hikiko | I guess applies to Taiwan too | 05:46 |
| qengho | With wind, it might be tolerable. | 05:46 |
| qengho | There is no wind. | 05:47 |
| pitti | Good morning | 05:47 |
| qengho | o/ | 05:47 |
| hikiko | qengho air conditioning ? | 05:47 |
| qengho | Plenty of that. I'm hiding in a cafe. | 05:47 |
| hikiko | Haha :-) | 05:47 |
| qengho | I know how to say "please, another iced coffee" better than anything else. | 05:49 |
| hikiko | How ? | 05:49 |
| * hikiko tests qengho's Chinese | 05:50 | |
| qengho | Something like "qing, duole yige tang bing de latte". | 05:51 |
| qengho | Oh, and large. Add a "da" in there. | 05:52 |
| qengho | Or yibei. Yeah, that one. | 05:52 |
| qengho | I'm probably wrong, but they're too polite to laugh. | 05:55 |
| hikiko | :-) | 05:55 |
| hikiko | lol | 05:55 |
| hikiko | Yeah that's a problem with the foreign languages | 05:55 |
| hikiko | People are too polite to correct you | 05:56 |
| hikiko | and you can't be sure if your sentences make sense | 05:56 |
| hikiko | Can't tell :p | 05:57 |
| hikiko | 30 degrees already \m/ | 05:58 |
| jbicha | hikiko: well, was he right or are you too polite to correct him too? :) | 06:00 |
| qengho | jbicha: You know "it's all Greek to me"? For the Greek, they say it's Chinese to them. | 06:04 |
| didrocks | good morning | 06:05 |
| qengho | hi didrocks. | 06:13 |
| didrocks | hey qengho! | 06:15 |
| hikiko | jbicha, I don't speak chinese :) | 06:20 |
| hikiko | it's chinese to me :) | 06:20 |
| jbicha | hikiko: oops, sorry about that | 06:20 |
| hikiko | about what? | 06:21 |
| jbicha | I'm embarassed about confusing Asian countries | 06:26 |
| hikiko | lol, Greece is not in asia :) well, it's too close | 06:26 |
| seb128 | good morning desktopers | 06:27 |
| hikiko | hi seb128 :) | 06:27 |
| seb128 | hey hikiko | 06:27 |
| pitti | bonjour didrocks et seb128 ! comment allez-vous ? | 06:27 |
| pitti | hey hikiko and qengho! | 06:27 |
| seb128 | salut pitti, ça va bien ! et toi ? | 06:27 |
| hikiko | bonjour pitti | 06:27 |
| seb128 | looks like the systemd session is getting there ? | 06:27 |
| pitti | seb128: yes, it is; currently preparing some changes to upstart, and landing the graphical-session.target unit in systemd itself | 06:28 |
| pitti | seb128: and most other bits of systemd-graphical-session are in the landing CI now | 06:28 |
| jbicha | hikiko: oh I didn't realize you were in Greece either | 06:28 |
| pitti | except xeyes of coures! | 06:28 |
| pitti | course | 06:28 |
| seb128 | haha | 06:28 |
| seb128 | going to miss those eyes staring at me at login ;-) | 06:29 |
| pitti | seb128: I think it's just unity-settings-daemon and unity-gtk-module that's left | 06:29 |
| pitti | well, landing that silo is still some work | 06:29 |
| pitti | we should drop update-notifier from it, not sure if that's possible to do or this needs a completely new landing | 06:30 |
| pitti | robru: ^ | 06:30 |
| didrocks | ça va bien pitti, et toi ? | 06:30 |
| hikiko | haha jbicha, no worries :) | 06:31 |
| pitti | didrocks: je vais bien, merci ! | 06:31 |
| hikiko | pitti apprends le francais? | 06:31 |
| seb128 | pitti, why is update-notifier in there? | 06:31 |
| pitti | hikiko: un petit peu | 06:31 |
| pitti | seb128: it shouldn't be | 06:31 |
| hikiko | tu parles bien je crois | 06:32 |
| pitti | hikiko: je crois que seb128 pense différemment :) | 06:33 |
| didrocks | qu'est-ce qu'il y connait seb128 au français ? :) | 06:35 |
| hikiko | lol | 06:35 |
| hikiko | il est un peu francophone peut etre... peut etre il n a pas oublier son francais | 06:35 |
| pitti | didrocks: parce qu'il est demi-allemand ? :-) | 06:35 |
| hikiko | je ne savais pas qu'il est demi allemand... wow, so he speaks the 3 most dominent languages in eu... he must learn spanish too and then he can communicate everywhere... | 06:37 |
| pitti | no, he must first learn Dutch :) | 06:37 |
| * pitti hugs seb128 | 06:37 | |
| didrocks | pitti: exactement ! :-) | 06:37 |
| hikiko | :s/everywhere/everywhere in eu | 06:37 |
| hikiko | il habite aux Pays bas (I am sure this is not written like that but ok :P) | 06:37 |
| hikiko | ? | 06:37 |
| didrocks | hikiko: non non, très proche : "Pays-Bas" | 06:38 |
| hikiko | :D | 06:38 |
| hikiko | il y a 16 ans ou je n ai pas eu l occasion d ecrire une phrase en francais... :D | 06:39 |
| * seb128 hugs pitti & didrocks | 06:43 | |
| seb128 | c'est l'heure du petit déjeuner, brb | 06:47 |
| * didrocks hugs seb128 back, bon app! | 06:47 | |
| seb128 | 'ci :-) | 06:47 |
| === davidcalle|afk is now known as davidcalle | ||
| willcooke | morning all! | 07:47 |
| seb128 | willcooke, hey! you are back ;-) | 07:49 |
| willcooke | hi seb128, yeah afraid so | 07:49 |
| seb128 | lol | 07:49 |
| willcooke | had a nice break though, will share some pics later | 07:49 |
| seb128 | we started wondering | 07:49 |
| seb128 | we remember that you said you had thu/fri off | 07:50 |
| seb128 | nice! | 07:50 |
| willcooke | yeah, I forgot I'd booked Monday off | 07:50 |
| seb128 | ah, k | 07:50 |
| willcooke | logged in to my calendar on Monday morning, thought "oh" and promptly turned the computer off again and went out :) | 07:50 |
| seb128 | lol, k | 07:51 |
| willcooke | I had plans to drop you a Telegram, and then forgot, sorry about that | 07:51 |
| seb128 | it was not in the shared calendar | 07:51 |
| willcooke | figured you'd work it out | 07:51 |
| seb128 | no worry | 07:51 |
| willcooke | oh, you're right I thought I'd added it there. | 07:51 |
| willcooke | naughty | 07:51 |
| didrocks | hey willcooke! | 07:52 |
| willcooke | morning didrocks | 07:52 |
| qengho | 'sup, willcooke. | 07:53 |
| willcooke | afternoon qengho - how goes over there? Still good? | 07:53 |
| qengho | willcooke: yep. got to get back home soon. I leave it alone for just a few weeks and *the whole country* goes to poop. | 07:56 |
| * qengho sighs. | 07:56 | |
| willcooke | :D | 07:56 |
| Laney | morning! | 08:03 |
| seb128 | hey Laney! | 08:04 |
| * seb128 is disturbed by the fluctuations in Laney's schedule recently, saying hi one minute earlier today than yesterday, what's going on! | 08:05 | |
| seb128 | Laney, how are you? had fun at climbing? | 08:05 |
| Laney | I hope you track my exit time as much as my entrance ¬_¬ | 08:05 |
| Laney | ya, I'm good | 08:06 |
| seb128 | lol | 08:06 |
| Laney | we had a mosquito in the bedroom last night so there was some late night fun catching that | 08:06 |
| Laney | climbing was okay but it gets hot in there | 08:06 |
| Laney | sweaaaaaaaatyyyyyyyy | 08:06 |
| Laney | what about you? | 08:06 |
| pitti | hey Laney | 08:06 |
| seb128 | I played tennis from 5pm to 6:30pm, that was good | 08:07 |
| Laney | hey pitti | 08:07 |
| Laney | how's it going? | 08:07 |
| seb128 | otherwise a bit of work still after that, dinner and some tv, nothing fancy | 08:07 |
| seb128 | got annoyed by a mosquito as well in the living room, but we didn't get it | 08:07 |
| seb128 | at least it was not in the sleeping room so we didn't get bitten during the night! | 08:08 |
| didrocks | morning Laney! | 08:08 |
| Laney | evolution works though | 08:08 |
| Laney | the sound of it moving around was VERY irritating | 08:08 |
| seb128 | I hate when they pass by the ears | 08:08 |
| Laney | ola didrocks | 08:09 |
| Laney | ¿cómo estas? | 08:09 |
| Laney | (or something) | 08:09 |
| Laney | https://code.launchpad.net/~kaihengfeng/ubiquity/fix-usd-scaling/+merge/298284 | 08:11 |
| seb128 | shrug | 08:12 |
| seb128 | really? | 08:12 |
| Laney | lalala | 08:13 |
| seb128 | /unsee | 08:13 |
| seb128 | but *really* | 08:13 |
| * seb128 stares at cyphermox for approving | 08:13 | |
| pitti | Laney: going well, thanks! landing more and more user session bits | 08:14 |
| Laney | nice work! | 08:14 |
| Laney | will you land -pre in another PR? | 08:15 |
| pitti | Laney: yes, I will; I added it to the Debian package for nwo | 08:15 |
| Laney | what happened with that PropagateDependencies thing? | 08:15 |
| pitti | so with upstart ubuntu28 and systemd 231-1 we have all the necessary infra in place | 08:15 |
| pitti | Laney: no reply yet | 08:15 |
| pitti | Laney: I'll bring that up at systemd.conf at the latest, I'll do a presentation about graphical systemd sessions there | 08:16 |
| Trevinho | Morning! | 08:16 |
| pitti | bongiorno Trevinho! | 08:16 |
| Laney | righto | 08:16 |
| Laney | hey Trevinho | 08:16 |
| pitti | Laney: so ATM all the hacks are in http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/gnome-session/ubuntu/view/head:/debian/data/run-systemd-session | 08:17 |
| pitti | Laney: so over time we can reduce this to become tasteful hopefully :) and then extend this to more sessions than just ubuntu and xubuntu | 08:17 |
| pitti | Laney: the rest looks fairly good to me now | 08:18 |
| pitti | wow, look at that broken indentation -- /me fixes | 08:18 |
| seb128 | hey Trevinho, how are you? | 08:19 |
| Trevinho | seb128: hey seb, well thanks... You? | 08:20 |
| Laney | pitti: there's nothing in this world a bit of sleeping can't solve | 08:20 |
| pitti | :) | 08:21 |
| pitti | naps are good! | 08:21 |
| seb128 | pitti, why do you set GNOME_DESKTOP_SESSION_ID= a second time there? | 08:21 |
| seb128 | or unset it | 08:21 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, I'm good thanks :-) | 08:21 |
| pitti | seb128: I want to unset it after the session ends | 08:22 |
| pitti | seb128: ... but I'm doing that wrong indeed, this needs to move down; thanks for spotting! | 08:22 |
| seb128 | pitti, yw! | 08:22 |
| pitti | seb128: pushed | 08:22 |
| seb128 | k, makes more sense now | 08:23 |
| seb128 | thanks! | 08:23 |
| seb128 | I get the --quiet is-active call is cheap but that's happening while the session is open right? | 08:23 |
| seb128 | wouldn't it make more sense to have at least 10s there? | 08:23 |
| seb128 | or is that going to delay closing/shutdown by as much? | 08:23 |
| pitti | seb128: yes, it will | 08:24 |
| pitti | logout, not shutdown | 08:24 |
| seb128 | I see | 08:24 |
| pitti | seb128: that's the bit which I want to fix first, it's really ugly | 08:25 |
| seb128 | we should probably have a bug targetted to yakkety to fix that one | 08:25 |
| seb128 | right | 08:25 |
| pitti | seb128: I'll add a WI for, say, 16.09 | 08:25 |
| seb128 | thanks | 08:25 |
| pitti | (holidays and too much to do in August) | 08:25 |
| seb128 | I think it's fine for the unstable cycle | 08:25 |
| Laney | that one could be something like watching the logind session on dbus like for g-k | 08:25 |
| Laney | probably? | 08:25 |
| seb128 | but I wouldn't like the idea to have a such hack in a release | 08:25 |
| pitti | writing a small downstream helper which listens to the signal is fairly simple, if we don't get it into systemctl proper in time | 08:26 |
| seb128 | the logind session can get you stuck though no? | 08:26 |
| seb128 | like if there are processes in its session not properly closing/exiting | 08:26 |
| Laney | the state changes to 'closing' | 08:27 |
| seb128 | I sometime end up with indicator-session showing an user still logged in | 08:27 |
| seb128 | k | 08:27 |
| pitti | seb128: we just need to listen to systemd's signal that the thingy unit we start goes to "stopped" | 08:27 |
| Laney | that's how we know when to kill gnome-keyring-daemon | 08:27 |
| Laney | or you can watch some unit on systemd's api | 08:27 |
| pitti | conceptually we just want systemctl start --wait-until-stopped ${DESKTOP_SESSION}-session.target | 08:28 |
| andyrock | morning all | 08:30 |
| Trevinho | hi andrea | 08:31 |
| Trevinho | hikiko: hey, did you see https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/unity/shadows-on-existing-pixmaps-cleanup/+merge/301099 ? | 08:31 |
| seb128 | hey andyrock, how are you today? | 08:31 |
| andyrock | could not sleep that well | 08:33 |
| andyrock | you seb128 ? | 08:33 |
| seb128 | I'm good thanks | 08:33 |
| Trevinho | andyrock: too much excitement in yesteday's ride? | 08:33 |
| seb128 | oh, too warm in Italy? | 08:33 |
| Trevinho | he lives in the top of an hill, it can't be hot :-D | 08:34 |
| seb128 | haha | 08:34 |
| andyrock | ahaha too many thoughts | 08:34 |
| Trevinho | (very nice place, though... with sea view) | 08:34 |
| hikiko | yes Trevinho I think there are corner cases though if we move the func to the DecorationsManager | 08:34 |
| Trevinho | what you mean? | 08:35 |
| hikiko | Trevinho, I want to check something - reviewing it | 08:35 |
| andyrock | vabbè guardo i singoli commit | 08:38 |
| Trevinho | hikiko: ok... I've just moved that to the window, since it builds textures for a window. Plus i've removed some duplicated code and usde better C++ features | 08:39 |
| hikiko | yeah, I saw you renamed some variables etc, thanks | 08:40 |
| duflu | Trevinho: Am I imagining things or has widget scaling got better in 16.10? 16.04 and below is annoying to configure at 1080p but 16.10 looks better proportioned | 08:45 |
| duflu | I mean 16.10 deals better with non-integer scaling values | 08:46 |
| duflu | andyrock: You're back? | 08:48 |
| andyrock | hey duflu | 08:49 |
| duflu | andyrock: You were away from Ubuntu, no? | 08:49 |
| andyrock | duflu: jejej nope :D | 08:49 |
| duflu | Oh. I don't pay enough attention | 08:50 |
| Laney | pitti: what was the problem with talking to the user systemd on dbus? | 08:50 |
| pitti | Laney: "the problem"? | 08:50 |
| Laney | the one tedg and I had | 08:50 |
| andyrock | duflu: btw gtk scaling is still 1 or 2 | 08:50 |
| Laney | laney@nightingale> busctl --user introspect org.freedesktop.systemd1 /org/freedesktop/systemd1 ~ | 08:50 |
| Laney | Failed to introspect object /org/freedesktop/systemd1 of service org.freedesktop.systemd1: Process org.freedesktop.systemd1 exited with status 1 | 08:51 |
| duflu | andyrock: Yeah, but something looks better in yakkety. Maybe it's the Ubuntu titlebars only | 08:51 |
| pitti | Laney: ah, so it wasn't systemd-shim and it wasn't cgmanager; it seems I don't remember any more, or we never actually demystified it | 08:51 |
| Laney | I forgot if we did | 08:51 |
| andyrock | I actually made some experiments last w.e. to try to make it floating | 08:51 |
| seb128 | andyrock, don't waste effort on that, I think upstream made an explicit choice by making it an int and wouldn't take a patch to change that | 08:53 |
| andyrock | i'm actually using windows 10 on my spare time because of that XD | 08:54 |
| Trevinho | duflu: hey, well... in gtk? | 08:54 |
| duflu | otp.. | 08:54 |
| andyrock | dell xps 15 just sucks with scaling 2 | 08:54 |
| seb128 | andyrock, :-( | 08:55 |
| andyrock | 1.75 would be perfect | 08:55 |
| * Sweet5hark1 find awesome work by ochosi on g+. | 08:56 | |
| Sweet5hark1 | ochosi: awesome, thanks that helps a lot! | 08:56 |
| seb128 | good morning Sweet5hark1 | 08:56 |
| Sweet5hark1 | good morn'. | 08:57 |
| duflu | Sorry was on the phone Trevinho | 09:03 |
| duflu | andyrock: I've found GTK's integer staling > 1 only really works on 3K or 4K displays. 1080p is really hard but it's better in yakkety | 09:03 |
| duflu | I guess because the widgets only have integer scaling factors, everything only looks right on integers | 09:04 |
| * Trevinho won't ever forgive gtk for not having supported floating scaling! | 09:04 | |
| duflu | Yeah GTK is now a little too old-fashioned | 09:05 |
| andyrock | duflu: i've a 4k display and scaling 2 does not feel ok | 09:05 |
| andyrock | :( | 09:06 |
| duflu | andyrock: Yeah same problem. I guess at 15" a scale of 2.0 is too big | 09:06 |
| andyrock | yeah so would actually be not that difficult to support floating scaling | 09:06 |
| duflu | I believe GTK still has some bitmap-based widgets that need integer scaling..? | 09:07 |
| andyrock | Trevinho told me that is because of pixel alignment | 09:07 |
| duflu | That's what I mean | 09:07 |
| andyrock | but on high-dpi 1px less 1 px more is not visible at all | 09:08 |
| Trevinho | yeah... rounding wouldn't have been a problem.... Really not a problem. | 09:08 |
| Trevinho | nobody ever noticed the rounding we do in unity7... | 09:08 |
| Trevinho | And indeed we still have integer-sized windows (of course) | 09:08 |
| duflu | I think you're right... we'd be better off forcing GTK to use floats than dealing with just ints | 09:08 |
| Trevinho | which... we might try to do | 09:08 |
| duflu | The loss of quality isn't as bad as the gain in readability | 09:09 |
| duflu | Maybe | 09:09 |
| Laney | pitti: I think it probably only works under dbus user sessions | 09:13 |
| pitti | Laney: oh! is that what you didn't have installed? very plausibly | 09:13 |
| pitti | Laney: otherwise systemd --user uses its internal dbus socket (/run/user/1000/systemd/private) | 09:14 |
| Laney | pitti: not on my outside system | 09:14 |
| Laney | pitti: https://paste.debian.net/785326 <- rough first draft | 10:55 |
| pitti | Laney: nice! | 10:59 |
| pitti | I'd still like to get this into systemctl proper to avoid the python overhead and the dependencies, but this is better than the polling loop already | 11:00 |
| Laney | right, it should be, but this is better for now imho | 11:01 |
| Laney | so do what you will with it :-) | 11:01 |
| * Laney goes away into juju land for a while | 11:01 | |
| Laney | https://yy2.staticflickr.com/5307/5629329064_28902fc8e3_z.jpg&f=1 | 11:02 |
| ogra_ | jibel, FYI "initctl start indicator-network" in the terminal app gets me a properly working indicator in u8 | 11:05 |
| ogra_ | oh ! and it even shows my existing vpn setup to choose from | 11:07 |
| seb128 | Laney, your python dbus foo is strong, you should rewrite that ubiquity hack with proper code :-) | 11:31 |
| Laney | I should add a review comment at the minimum | 11:40 |
| seb128 | yes please | 11:42 |
| pitti | seb128: the dbus-monitor polling one? omg yes :) | 11:46 |
| seb128 | pitti, yeah :-/ | 11:46 |
| pitti | also, it's "fu" :) | 11:47 |
| seb128 | oh, right ... thanks! | 11:47 |
| Laney | done | 11:53 |
| Laney | I used *DISAPPROVE* | 11:54 |
| Laney | felt better than Needs Fixing | 11:54 |
| jibel | ogra_, on yakkety? | 11:55 |
| jibel | ogra_, how do you install the terminal app? | 11:55 |
| ogra_ | jibel, xenial with overlay ... but i guess it works on yakkety too | 11:55 |
| ogra_ | jibel, there is a link in mhalls blog post | 11:55 |
| ogra_ | sadly AltGr still doesnt work in unity8 apps for me :( | 11:56 |
| ogra_ | (it works in libertine apps ... but there i have no keyboard repeat at all ... which is super annoying ) | 11:57 |
| bregma | ogra_, the fix for that is in the next Xmir upload | 11:58 |
| ogra_ | yay | 11:58 |
| bregma | key repeat, I mean | 11:58 |
| ogra_ | yeah, thats what i understood | 11:58 |
| bregma | AltGr might be in Mir 0.24 maybe | 11:58 |
| bregma | maybe | 11:59 |
| ogra_ | bregma, btw, my high load seems to have been eds running in the libertine container ... battling with the natively running one ... | 11:59 |
| ogra_ | my fan is silent when i dont run evo | 11:59 |
| jibel | ogra_, thanks the indicator starts with initctl | 11:59 |
| ogra_ | seems to be some race on session startup | 12:00 |
| jibel | ogra_, I can now upload crashes without switching to unity7 ;) | 12:00 |
| ogra_ | lol | 12:00 |
| ogra_ | well, switching back to u7 i usually spend 10mins clicking away apport windows | 12:00 |
| * ogra_ blames pitti | 12:00 | |
| ogra_ | :P | 12:00 |
| bregma | they're like cockroaches | 12:01 |
| ogra_ | yeah | 12:01 |
| ogra_ | and every time i think i'm done a new one pops up | 12:01 |
| bregma | *just* like cockroaches | 12:01 |
| ogra_ | :) | 12:01 |
| ogra_ | so now having the music app behave would be awesome | 12:02 |
| ogra_ | it starts but freaks out when you actually want to play someting | 12:02 |
| ogra_ | and even more funny ... *everything* i click in the indicator that opens a remote app (system settings, clock etc) actually opens the music app by default if i have it installed | 12:03 |
| ogra_ | aha ... uninstalling and re-installing it seems to have fixed that last bit | 12:04 |
| ogra_ | hmm, there must be a way to make libertine use a proper cursor | 12:06 |
| bregma | ogra_, yes, but it's still a work in progress | 12:07 |
| ogra_ | ha, got it ... | 12:08 |
| ogra_ | just installing dmz-cursor-theme along with light-themes and ubuntu-settings gets me the full default theme support | 12:09 |
| ogra_ | that looks a lot better :) | 12:09 |
| ogra_ | hmm, funny, installing lautfm-player gets me proper playback ... seems to be an issue in the music app itself | 12:17 |
| jibel | bregma, I cannot start libertine on yakkety, it crahes with bug 1606556 | 12:19 |
| ubot5 | bug 1606556 in libertine (Ubuntu) "/usr/bin/libertine:11:QListData::size:QList:ContainerAppsList::size:QQmlAdaptorModel::count:QQmlDelegateModel::_q_modelReset" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1606556 | 12:19 |
| happyaron | seb128: hey, ping for n-m/1.2.2, ;-) | 12:21 |
| seb128 | happyaron, hey, right I know it's on my list, just got busy and previous week was .1 etc, trying to get to it this afternoon | 12:22 |
| happyaron | ty | 12:23 |
| Trevinho | tedg: hey, could you please merge again https://code.launchpad.net/~ted/unity/systemd-unit with andyrock's branch? | 13:10 |
| Trevinho | (not sure they cleanly merge right now) | 13:10 |
| tedg | Trevinho: Ah, yeah, I can. | 13:10 |
| Trevinho | tedg: ta | 13:12 |
| Trevinho | tedg: also, I was thinking... using that code in the current yakkety causes the Start/Stop calls to not happen since the proxy is not connected... They get queued though... Maybe you could avoid to call start/stop if the systemd_proxy_ is not connected? | 13:15 |
| Trevinho | tedg: at the beginning I had the idea of just provinding one of the two wrappers, depending on what is running in the session, but... It's a little to annoying, and I didn't want you to create an abstract class just for that, but... Maybe... | 13:16 |
| tedg | Trevinho: Oh, because it's connecting to the session bus instead of the user bus right now? | 13:16 |
| Trevinho | tedg: yes | 13:17 |
| tedg | Trevinho: We won't have the Upstart stuff for long hopefully, so I don't think it's worth abstracting. | 13:17 |
| Trevinho | tedg: yeah, same I thought... | 13:18 |
| Trevinho | tedg: but currently guess we'd get some "Timed out waiting for proxy" erros in unity logs | 13:18 |
| Trevinho | so... | 13:18 |
| Trevinho | tedg: is an env var available when systemd is there? | 13:19 |
| tedg | tedg: I think checking if it's connected is fine. We can drop that too once we get migrated over if it's taking too long. | 13:19 |
| Trevinho | ok... | 13:20 |
| Trevinho | tedg: I mean, it might be not connected at the very start of the session... Like if starting with unity already locked (because of a crash) though | 13:20 |
| Trevinho | but... Yeah, as you say, this is something we can get rid of | 13:20 |
| Trevinho | or, juts check for an env var presency for both upstart and systemd wrappers | 13:21 |
| Trevinho | tedg: also /usr/share/unity/unity-compiz-profile I'd prefer it to be in /usr/lib/unity | 13:23 |
| Trevinho | tedg: and probably renamed unity-compiz-profile-set or -selector or... anything that explains better :-) | 13:24 |
| tedg | K, I was avoiding changing the codebase too much, but since andyrock moved the .conf file into the build system we can move it to lib. | 13:25 |
| Trevinho | tedg: yeah, that's nicer | 13:33 |
| cyphermox | Laney: seb128: do you want to file a merge proposal for ubiquity, since you know how to "do it the right way" | 13:43 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, hey, going to let Laney comment on that, I don't know offhand but shouldn't be hard to write, I was just reacting to calling cmds and parsin std output this way | 13:44 |
| Laney | Not sure why the scare quotes, but I don't particularly have time right now, sorry | 13:44 |
| Laney | I would ask the contributor, but maybe they won't do it now it got merged | 13:45 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, I guess we can still revert and ask the submitter to do it properly | 13:45 |
| cyphermox | seb128: I think we'll want to do the change and do another upload | 13:46 |
| seb128 | need to find a "we" then | 13:47 |
| Laney | how can git rebase fail on a commit in the upstream branch? | 13:54 |
| Laney | huh, weird | 13:55 |
| pitti | Laney: wait, gbp? | 13:55 |
| Laney | real git | 13:56 |
| pitti | Laney: not sure what you mean, but last time I fell into trouble was when I rebased master and scribbled over/deleted the merge commit from upstream | 13:56 |
| Laney | no merge commits here | 13:56 |
| Laney | I think there was a force push though | 13:56 |
| * Laney spanks ximion | 13:56 | |
| pitti | ah, or that | 13:57 |
| Laney | pitti: it was <rewind changes>; <apply changes from upstream>; merge failure in one of those | 13:57 |
| Laney | I don't see how that can happen in normal circumstances | 13:57 |
| Laney | git log master..HEAD revealed the problem though | 13:57 |
| Laney | -> it showed one of the changes that should have been on master | 13:58 |
| Laney | now to try and repair this without brute force | 13:59 |
| * Laney tries git rebase -i; delete force pushed commit | 13:59 | |
| Laney | pitti: if you're on debian-devel, would be nice to reply to http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.devel.general/210066 | 14:01 |
| pitti | Laney: I'm not, but thanks for the pointer; I'll read it RSN | 14:02 |
| pitti | Laney: https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2016/07/msg00484.html has the Message-Id: for replying | 14:03 |
| ximion | Laney: what? where? | 14:04 |
| Laney | pitti: nod (I used http://mid.gmane.org/<message-id> as a lazy way to get a link) :) | 14:04 |
| Laney | ximion: my branch has "e50f836d47ecf09ffbd3fa672542685a39461d0e Use appender more often and apply some style fixes" but master has "c638e73255030b047db317799187a15698d0dad0 Use appender more often and apply some style fixes" | 14:07 |
| Laney | ximion: it could be that I messed it up by mistake though | 14:07 |
| ximion | doesn't look like your fault, actually... | 14:09 |
| ximion | something went wrong there | 14:10 |
| Laney | without looking I would guess commit --amend and push --force | 14:11 |
| ximion | probably, but I don't remember conciously force-pushing anything during Debconf | 14:13 |
| ximion | anyway, the branch wasn't protected yet (= force-pushing was possible) | 14:13 |
| * ximion fixed that a few minutes ago | 14:13 | |
| Laney | those IPAs were quite strong | 14:13 |
| ximion | Indian Pale Ales? | 14:15 |
| Laney | yummy | 14:17 |
| ximion | the easiest way to fix this would propapbly be to export the patches and import them on a clean branch | 14:18 |
| Laney | no way, git is powerful enough | 14:18 |
| ximion | looks like I messed something up there in the past, sorry for that | 14:18 |
| ximion | neat :) | 14:18 |
| Laney | I did an interactive rebase and told it to delete the conflicting patch | 14:18 |
| Laney | then there is a real conflict in getIndexFile | 14:19 |
| Laney | "Successfully rebased and updated refs/heads/online." | 14:19 |
| ximion | neat .) | 14:23 |
| ximion | the next thing I will do is to clean up the statistics (to only store actually useful information), and maybe make a "components recently added" page | 14:23 |
| Laney | ximion: so what is needed to get this merged? support Translation-gz again I guess | 14:23 |
| ximion | yes, from last time I checked this was the only real issue | 14:24 |
| Laney | ok | 14:24 |
| Laney | let me do this now | 14:24 |
| ximion | create a PR for this, then I can look over it again | 14:24 |
| Laney | IS have fixed the firewall so I can do a full run with screenshots | 14:24 |
| ximion | (but last time, it already looked quite good) | 14:24 |
| Laney | I didn't check it with a non-remote mirror | 14:24 |
| ximion | hooray! | 14:25 |
| Laney | would be good to know I didn't break that ... | 14:25 |
| ximion | screenshot-resizing in asgen is also less dumb now | 14:25 |
| ximion | hehe, I really want to work on AppStream stuff, but I also really need to get other things done... ^^ | 14:26 |
| Laney | too many projects | 14:27 |
| ximion | university, this time | 14:28 |
| ximion | couldn't get anything else done during the Snappy sprint | 14:28 |
| ximion | but that sprint was really successful, so that's fine :) | 14:29 |
| hikiko | hey Trevinho and andyrock could you wait for my review in the shadow code? | 14:29 |
| hikiko | I ve seen it's top approved already | 14:29 |
| hikiko | and I was awaiting that review 7 months | 14:29 |
| hikiko | is it so urgent? | 14:29 |
| ximion | Laney: btw, I plan to do a large libappstream API break soonish - will simplify a lot of things, drop all deprecated bits and remaining functions from when Xapian was a required component | 14:30 |
| ximion | the changes will also help maging asgen better | 14:30 |
| Laney | what else is using libappstream? | 14:31 |
| ximion | Discover, AppCenter, Isenkram, ... | 14:32 |
| ximion | probably more that I don't know of | 14:32 |
| Laney | fun | 14:32 |
| ximion | porting should be trivial though, I will likely do that for all the packages in Debian | 14:33 |
| Trevinho | hikiko: you can still review it, add your bit on it. | 14:33 |
| Trevinho | hikiko: no urgency, just that I'm landing... So I want to clean the plate | 14:33 |
| hikiko | you didn't tell me that before so I was doing other things Trevinho | 14:34 |
| hikiko | now it's the end of my day | 14:34 |
| hikiko | could you change the status to needs review and maybe include it in the next landing? | 14:34 |
| hikiko | I will check it 1st thing tomorrow | 14:35 |
| hikiko | anyway, I have to go, see you later | 14:37 |
| Trevinho | hikiko: ok, in case there's something to fix, we can just fix in a new MP... There's no much logic change since your branch. Just optimizations | 14:40 |
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| willcooke | blimey, it's meeting time already | 15:30 |
| qengho | "Already" | 15:30 |
| seb128 | hey | 15:30 |
| willcooke | #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting 2016-07-26 | 15:30 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Tue Jul 26 15:30:33 2016 UTC. The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 15:30 |
| meetingology | Available commands: action commands idea info link nick | 15:30 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Tag "gtk318" for gtk 3.18 bugs please and thanks | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting 2016-07-26 | Current topic: | ||
| willcooke | Today has flown past | 15:30 |
| Trevinho | hola! | 15:30 |
| willcooke | Lots of email to catch up on | 15:30 |
| * Trevinho agrees | 15:30 | |
| willcooke | Roll call: andyrock, attente, desrt (hols), dgadomski, fjkong, happyaron (out), hikiko (out), laney, qengho, seb128, sweet5hark, themuso (out), tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (hols) | 15:31 |
| FJKong | wake up | 15:31 |
| Sweet5hark1 | aye | 15:31 |
| andyrock | hey | 15:32 |
| Sweet5hark1 | do you glow in the dark now, willcooke? | 15:32 |
| Laney | zzz | 15:32 |
| willcooke | Sweet5hark1, :D I have special powers now | 15:32 |
| willcooke | right, let's get started | 15:32 |
| Sweet5hark1 | willcooke: arrgh! will be careful then | 15:32 |
| willcooke | #topic andyrock | 15:32 |
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| andyrock | Done: | 15:33 |
| andyrock | 1. [BUG:1605012] /usr/bin/compiz:6:__gnu_cxx::__verbose_terminate_handler:__cxxabiv1::__terminate:std::terminate:__cxxabiv1::__cxa_throw:void | 15:33 |
| andyrock | 2. [BUG:1605010] /usr/bin/compiz:11:unity::IconTexture::SetTexture:unity::ui::UnityWindowView:::sigc::adaptor_functor:sigc::internal::slot_call4:sigc::internal::signal_emit4 | 15:33 |
| andyrock | 3. [BUG:1605231] Eject notification icon not properly scaled on high-dpi. | 15:33 |
| andyrock | 4. [BUG:1605256] Switcher detail view does not scale properly on high dpi | 15:33 |
| andyrock | 5. [BUG:1605180] Compiz hogging CPU when screen off | 15:33 |
| andyrock | 6. [BUG:1506023] Unityshell sometimes is removed from active-plugins unity list | 15:33 |
| andyrock | 7. [BUG:1606254] Super+S activates expo plugin even on a 1x1 setup | 15:33 |
| andyrock | 8. [BUG:1606234] Actions menu is displaced on high-dpi | 15:33 |
| andyrock | 9. [BUG:1044662] compiz crashed with signal 5 (SIGTRAP) in g_logv() from g_log() from g_settings_schema_get_value() from g_settings_schema_key_init() from g_settings_get_value() | 15:33 |
| andyrock | In progress (almost done, just minor changes required): | 15:33 |
| andyrock | 10. [BUG:1564375] Unity should take display scaling into account to avoid placement of desktop icons under launcher | 15:33 |
| andyrock | 11. [BUG:1600389] Keep the screen locked if autologin is enabled | 15:33 |
| andyrock | eof | 15:33 |
| willcooke | just those 11 bugs then? | 15:33 |
| andyrock | :D | 15:34 |
| andyrock | small ones | 15:34 |
| willcooke | thanks andyrock, good stuff :) | 15:34 |
| willcooke | #topic attente | 15:34 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Tag "gtk318" for gtk 3.18 bugs please and thanks | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting 2016-07-26 | Current topic: attente | ||
| willcooke | attente, congratulations on your award! Well deserved. | 15:34 |
| attente | hey, not much news, just some gtk-mir patch review | 15:34 |
| attente | re-visiting the apparmor dconf work again, old patches are pretty stale and don't really apply any more | 15:34 |
| attente | :o | 15:34 |
| attente | updated the java-non-latin-shortcuts ppa for xenial | 15:34 |
| attente | (eof) | 15:34 |
| willcooke | thanks attente | 15:35 |
| Laney | NO | 15:35 |
| Laney | I mean "not much news" apart from being the hero of the week | 15:35 |
| * Laney golf clap | 15:35 | |
| * willcooke stands | 15:35 | |
| willcooke | cheers to attente | 15:35 |
| attente | thanks guys.. *nervous* | 15:36 |
| willcooke | :) | 15:36 |
| * Sweet5hark1 nods while writing his items ... | 15:36 | |
| seb128 | congrats attente, well deserved with the work you are doing ;-) | 15:36 |
| Laney | now you know the CEO is watching you closely | 15:36 |
| seb128 | gra, need to restart session, I switched user and got fonts missing again, hate intel | 15:36 |
| willcooke | #topic dgadomski | 15:37 |
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| dgadomski | hey | 15:37 |
| dgadomski | Unfortunately I was busy with non-desktop stuff this week, so nothing really to share this time. | 15:37 |
| willcooke | np, thanks dgadomski | 15:37 |
| robru | pitti: to drop a package from a landing you have to manually delete from the PPA then edit the ticket to remove mention of the package (MPs and source name) | 15:37 |
| willcooke | #topic FJKong | 15:37 |
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| FJKong | hi | 15:37 |
| FJKong | sogou IM bug tracing as follow: | 15:37 |
| FJKong | * when using under Gnome HiDPI (SurfacePro3) font size and position not right. | 15:37 |
| FJKong | * tesing dependency of libapng, upgrading to latest version | 15:38 |
| FJKong | * tracing memery leak point | 15:38 |
| FJKong | * other strange bugs about punctuation inputing. | 15:38 |
| FJKong | eof | 15:38 |
| willcooke | thanks FJKong, did that phone ever arrive? | 15:38 |
| FJKong | no... | 15:38 |
| willcooke | :(((((( | 15:38 |
| FJKong | maybe next year | 15:38 |
| willcooke | ha | 15:38 |
| willcooke | I'll try again and find out why it wasn't shipped to the office | 15:38 |
| willcooke | thanks djinni` | 15:38 |
| FJKong | :( | 15:38 |
| willcooke | oops sorry djinni` - ignore | 15:38 |
| willcooke | thanks FJKong | 15:39 |
| willcooke | #topic happyaron | 15:39 |
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| willcooke | 1. libpng + apng patch for FJ's animated skin work | 15:39 |
| willcooke | 2. trafficserver/6.2.0 | 15:39 |
| willcooke | 3. n-m/1.2.2 updated | 15:39 |
| willcooke | 4. sogou for ubuntu phone meetings | 15:39 |
| willcooke | #topic hikiko | 15:39 |
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| willcooke | - small fixes on nux/unity blur optimisation | 15:39 |
| willcooke | - started next snap (blender) | 15:39 |
| willcooke | - looking at the window motion problem | 15:39 |
| willcooke | #topic Laney | 15:39 |
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| Laney | sup | 15:39 |
| Laney | • Some more small tweaks to theme; re-merge with trunk, upload to PPA | 15:39 |
| Laney | • Merge nautilus in the PPA (refresh headerbar patches :/), ready for the transition | 15:39 |
| Laney | • 3.20 is delayed because of the alpha, sorry - I didn't notice it was happening until Monday | 15:39 |
| Laney | • Ask r_obert / m_terry for help with the unity-greeter issue; being worked a bit now | 15:39 |
| Laney | • systemd sprint and followup | 15:39 |
| Laney | ∘ some more jobs | 15:40 |
| Laney | ∘ pstreaming of gnome-keyring patch | 15:40 |
| Laney | ∘ upload a couple of bits to Ubuntu | 15:40 |
| Laney | ∘ Write a POC thing to wait for a job to finish instead of repeatedly polling in a sleep loop | 15:40 |
| Laney | • Now working on the new asgen, need to (1) juju-ify it, (2) deploy to staging, (3) re-implement translations and langpack support | 15:40 |
| Laney | 🚤 | 15:40 |
| willcooke | super, thanks Laney | 15:40 |
| willcooke | will follow up with you and s_eb128 this week on the mini sprint | 15:41 |
| willcooke | #topic qengho | 15:41 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Tag "gtk318" for gtk 3.18 bugs please and thanks | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting 2016-07-26 | Current topic: qengho | ||
| qengho | Just Cr security updates this week, | 15:41 |
| qengho | * New Chromium release. Yay, v52! Built for y. Testing. | 15:41 |
| qengho | * Still fixing up v51.0.2704.106 for p, t, w, x. Known remaining: some SSE code path problems. Will release probably tomorrow. | 15:41 |
| qengho | EOF | 15:41 |
| willcooke | thanks qengho | 15:41 |
| willcooke | so many critical security issues, so little time | 15:41 |
| willcooke | #topic seb128 | 15:41 |
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| qengho | :( | 15:41 |
| seb128 | • systemd user-session hackfest | 15:42 |
| seb128 | ∘ spent some time getting familiar with the tech/work | 15:42 |
| seb128 | ∘ worked on porting the hud and update-notifier jobs | 15:42 |
| seb128 | ∘ investigated qt theming being wrong (due to missing env variable, p_itti fixed it) | 15:42 |
| seb128 | ∘ fixed polkit-gnome not working anymore | 15:42 |
| seb128 | • spent some time talking to the people in heidelberg/reading their documents to get uptodate with the snap topics discussed there (shared content, frameworks, translations) | 15:42 |
| seb128 | • didn't do bug triage for a while, so spent some cycle on that | 15:42 |
| seb128 | </week> | 15:42 |
| willcooke | thanks seb128 | 15:42 |
| willcooke | would like to have a proper sprint debrief with you and Robert once he's back | 15:43 |
| willcooke | i.e. next week | 15:43 |
| seb128 | +1 | 15:43 |
| willcooke | #topic Sweet5hark1 | 15:43 |
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| Sweet5hark1 | - libreoffice 5.2.0 rc3 as snap and dpkg | 15:43 |
| Sweet5hark1 | - posted about the theme issue, kudos to ochosi who provided some excellent hints, needs to work on those now | 15:43 |
| Sweet5hark1 | - some security stuff | 15:43 |
| Sweet5hark1 | - prepared some notes for l10n on snap, seens i wasnt needed in the hangout -- so emailed them instead | 15:43 |
| Sweet5hark1 | - had some LibreOffice folks over for home hacking | 15:43 |
| Sweet5hark1 | - fixed a mail merge regression upstream | 15:43 |
| Sweet5hark1 | - upstream code review | 15:43 |
| Sweet5hark1 | EOF | 15:43 |
| willcooke | thanks ochosi :) | 15:43 |
| willcooke | and thanks Sweet5hark1 | 15:43 |
| Sweet5hark1 | indeed: ochosi rocks! | 15:44 |
| willcooke | #topic TheMuso | 15:44 |
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| willcooke | * Getting back to original cycle plans... Working on fixing more bugs in a11y-profile-manager, properly supporting desktop environments, still working out a solution in the installer because XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP may not always be set. | 15:44 |
| willcooke | * Updated Orca to latest upstream release. | 15:44 |
| willcooke | * Working on syncing speech-dispatcher with debian so it can be purely maintained there, and shouldn't require any more merging in the future. | 15:44 |
| willcooke | * Started working on a pulseaudio documentation package. Its available in the source, but not shipped. | 15:44 |
| willcooke | #topic tkamppeter | 15:44 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Tag "gtk318" for gtk 3.18 bugs please and thanks | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting 2016-07-26 | Current topic: tkamppeter | ||
| tkamppeter | - OpenPrinting web site: Evaluated possibilities for web site improvement and partial moving of services (to ease maintainability, follow current standards, and to overcome low attention by LF sys admins): | 15:44 |
| tkamppeter | o Repositories to GitHub as the general standard | 15:44 |
| tkamppeter | o Static content to GitHub/Jekyll to make it GIT-repo- instead of GUI-interface-based | 15:44 |
| tkamppeter | o Mirroring of driver database to a PWG-(Printing Working Group, www.pwg.org)-supplied server | 15:44 |
| tkamppeter | o Replace forums by mailing lists. | 15:44 |
| tkamppeter | - Snappy: Studied the way how to snap CUPS and asked questions on Snappy mailing list. | 15:44 |
| tkamppeter | - Google Summer of Code 2016: Guide students through their projects | 15:44 |
| tkamppeter | - Bugs | 15:44 |
| willcooke | thanks tkamppeter | 15:45 |
| willcooke | #topic Trevinho | 15:45 |
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| Trevinho | · Fixed various crashes from e.u.c | 15:45 |
| Trevinho | · Use gsettings sync when saving settings in migration scripts | 15:45 |
| Trevinho | · Reworked hikiko's shadows on shaped windows branch to be more C++ friendly and use more caching | 15:45 |
| Trevinho | · Continued working in unity8 slots indicators | 15:45 |
| Trevinho | · Various reviews | 15:45 |
| Trevinho | · About to finalize a new juicy landing for BAMF, compiz and unity | 15:45 |
| Trevinho | /EOF [out Thu and Fri] | 15:45 |
| seb128 | coming ones? | 15:45 |
| seb128 | or the previous ones? (I think you swapped thursday?) | 15:45 |
| Trevinho | coming | 15:46 |
| seb128 | k | 15:46 |
| Trevinho | I swapped 1 day last week | 15:46 |
| seb128 | enjoy! | 15:46 |
| Trevinho | thanks :) | 15:46 |
| willcooke | thanks Trevinho | 15:46 |
| willcooke | #topic AOB | 15:46 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Tag "gtk318" for gtk 3.18 bugs please and thanks | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting 2016-07-26 | Current topic: AOB | ||
| willcooke | Was off yesterday, so I'll send out a who is where email in a mo | 15:46 |
| seb128 | congrats everyone one getting a good 16.04.1 one btw! | 15:47 |
| seb128 | one->out | 15:47 |
| willcooke | indeed, well done! | 15:47 |
| seb128 | we didn't mention it much but good stack of improvements/fixes in there | 15:47 |
| seb128 | feedback from what I read is nice | 15:47 |
| Trevinho | :) | 15:48 |
| seb128 | hikiko, Trevinho, great work on the lowgfx, that makes vms nicer to use | 15:48 |
| seb128 | (well other improvements/fixes are nice as well but that one is quite noticable when you test something in a vm ;-) | 15:48 |
| Trevinho | yeah, I didn't expect that it would have become so snappy | 15:48 |
| * willcooke wonders what happened to that blog post marketing asked him to write about the release | 15:48 | |
| Trevinho | I tend to use VMs with 3d accels, but yeah.. | 15:48 |
| Trevinho | Oh! | 15:49 |
| Trevinho | no post? | 15:49 |
| willcooke | I can't find it if they did | 15:49 |
| willcooke | meh | 15:49 |
| Trevinho | we need to spam... | 15:49 |
| willcooke | will chase | 15:49 |
| Laney | Trevinho: are you still looking at the black corners thing btw? | 15:49 |
| Trevinho | Laney: I've that in my todo... | 15:49 |
| Trevinho | but... I gave a stop on that as i wanted to focus on some stuff I'm keeping in the stash for too long, after the crashfixes.. | 15:50 |
| Laney | as you wish | 15:50 |
| willcooke | ok, let's wrap the meeting with a picture of x_nox chasing a penguin. http://tinyurl.com/h4uzrc7 | 15:50 |
| Laney | it's going to be in the release soon | 15:50 |
| andyrock | ahaha | 15:51 |
| willcooke | Laney, Trevinho please carry on once meeting is closed.... | 15:51 |
| Laney | wtf is a webp | 15:51 |
| willcooke | #endmeeting | 15:51 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Tag "gtk318" for gtk 3.18 bugs please and thanks | ||
| meetingology | Meeting ended Tue Jul 26 15:51:21 2016 UTC. | 15:51 |
| meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2016/ubuntu-desktop.2016-07-26-15.30.moin.txt | 15:51 |
| * qengho Zzz | 15:51 | |
| willcooke | night qengho FJKong | 15:51 |
| andyrock | meeting over andy's day is over too | 15:51 |
| FJKong | willcooke: tnx | 15:51 |
| willcooke | cya andyrock | 15:51 |
| Laney | nothing that firefox likes | 15:51 |
| seb128 | willcooke, we didn't activate upgrade suggestions yet afaik, so maybe they were waiting on that | 15:52 |
| seb128 | willcooke, I saw yesterday that j_ibel asked to delay a day to show the prompt because they wanted the test results from Dell certified machines (I think) | 15:52 |
| willcooke | seb128, ohh, could be. More likely they forgot, but that might work out nicely | 15:52 |
| willcooke | oh cool, thanks seb128 - will follow up with him now | 15:52 |
| seb128 | thanks | 15:53 |
| seb128 | Ubuntu is not webp friendly | 15:57 |
| seb128 | neither firefox, eog nor gimp likes it | 15:57 |
| seb128 | had to install "webp" and use the vwebp command line tool | 15:57 |
| Laney | chromium can do it | 15:58 |
| seb128 | thanks for the hint, didn't think about trying there | 15:58 |
| Laney | https://github.com/aruiz/webp-pixbuf-loader | 16:00 |
| Laney | package that | 16:00 |
| Laney | ! | 16:00 |
| seb128 | honestly, wth intel! | 16:02 |
| seb128 | gpu errors, session corrupted on closed every thrid user switch | 16:02 |
| willcooke | snap! | 16:03 |
| willcooke | as in snap that package | 16:03 |
| willcooke | not the same problems as seb128 | 16:03 |
| seb128 | what do we snap? ;-) | 16:04 |
| willcooke | https://github.com/aruiz/webp-pixbuf-loader | 16:04 |
| seb128 | ah | 16:04 |
| seb128 | not a good snap example :p | 16:04 |
| willcooke | (I know, it wont work as a snap) | 16:04 |
| willcooke | heh | 16:04 |
| willcooke | yeah | 16:04 |
| seb128 | well maybe with content sharing! | 16:04 |
| seb128 | though it's going to share with other snaps | 16:05 |
| seb128 | so not going to work for the deb side of your system | 16:05 |
| willcooke | oooh | 16:05 |
| willcooke | an idea forms | 16:05 |
| willcooke | an unconfined snap, which you could add to your library path, which then reshares content sharing snaps | 16:06 |
| willcooke | 2. hand wave | 16:06 |
| willcooke | 3. PROFIT | 16:06 |
| seb128 | lol | 16:06 |
| seb128 | will "hack master" cooke | 16:07 |
| willcooke | :DDD | 16:07 |
| === Guest85579 is now known as fredp | ||
| === fredp is now known as Guest9039 | ||
| seb128 | k, time for dinner and some tennis, have a nice evening desktopers, see you tomorrow! | 17:03 |
| willcooke | cya seb128 | 17:06 |
| * willcooke offski too | 17:06 | |
| willcooke | nigth | 17:06 |
| willcooke | night | 17:06 |
| === dpm-afk is now known as dpm | ||
| bschaefer | hello looking to get a patch in yakkety for libsdl1.2, not 100% sure how to go about his, but ive a debian/patch and have tested everything! | 18:33 |
| sarnold | bschaefer: prepare a debdiff, file a bug on the source package, including a description of the tsting you've done, and subscribe sponsors | 20:21 |
| bschaefer | sarnold, thanks! | 20:21 |
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