[05:22] good morning all === chesedo- is now known as chesedo [05:34] Hi chesedo [05:35] hi superfly, how cold is it there in cpt? [05:35] Hey chesedo [05:35] Not too bad. It just doesn't warm up [05:35] And superfly [05:35] The worst is the wind. [05:36] Sup paddatrapper [05:36] And the rain takes any heat you may have had and kills it [05:36] No wind at uct at the moment [05:36] What paddatrapper said [05:36] Muizenberg was blowing this morning [05:37] ouch, we currently only have the wind... still waiting for the cold [05:38] it's snowing in KZN [05:39] drakensberg? [05:39] No, on the farms [05:40] I have a friend who is currently posting pictures of her kids in the snow [05:40] oh, hear that will also snow close to potch when i was there this weekend, but do not know if it did... [05:41] hopefully it is worst enough that all can have the day off and enjoy it... [05:41] Morning [05:41] * chesedo wbb [05:41] oh one of you two will be giving a report on debConf tonight, right? [05:43] Uh, I can try. I'll be on my phone, but I should be able to [05:44] By the way, if anyone wants to watch Sicelo 's talk [05:44] http://meetings-archive.debian.net/pub/debian-meetings/2016/debconf16/DebianLinux_in_Developing_Nations_Challenges_and_Rewards.webm [06:02] superfly: ty [06:02] morning dlPhreak [06:07] How are you chesedo ? [06:11] Morning [06:12] superfly: Do you know if there's a library in python that I could use to ssh with a key? Other than paramiko, I can't seem to get it to work on AWS Lambda, so want to try an alternative [06:13] Morning Squirm [06:15] Hey dlPhreak [06:16] Hewo [06:17] Hey [06:29] Mornin' Kilos [06:29] hi squirm [06:30] power just came on since 10pm last night [06:30] Ouch [06:31] But at least it's back [06:31] and at least it was night time [06:31] yeah [06:33] Squirm: I only know of paramiko [06:34] Ok [06:34] morning superfly inetpro paddatrapper chesedo nsnzero ra1v3n Sicelo and others [06:34] good evening Kilos [06:34] oh hi theblazehen thatgraemeguy [06:34] Squirm: otherwise Popen("ssh") *shrug* [06:35] After struggling for 2 days to get paramiko to ssh, I tried that [06:35] ['which: no ssh in (/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin/:/bin)\\n'] [06:35] Didn't work, so I did a which [06:35] :/ [06:36] Squirm: I don't know AWS Lambda, but what's the error? [06:36] good morning all [06:37] superfly: https://forums.aws.amazon.com/thread.jspa?messageID=732381 [06:37] Having the same problem as that guy [06:37] hi Kilos [06:37] * superfly takes a peek [06:37] and others [06:37] o/ [06:37] I think it's because I wasn't building it on the same type of architecture. But then I did. I think I'm packaging it wrong. There's a whole process, probably getting something wrong. I think specifically with the C includes [06:39] Squirm: sshpass (1) [06:39] Lets you do ssh without needing a tty [06:40] And do `which ssh` in your shell to get path to ssh then [06:40] theblazehen: ['which: no ssh in (/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin/:/bin)\\n'] [06:40] Hey Kilos [06:40] The problem is that there's no ssh [06:40] I need to auth with a key [06:40] And you can't bundle it in? [06:40] Do you have busybox? [06:41] Squirm: it looks to me like _constant_time.so is corrupt [06:41] the first line in the error says "/var/task/cryptography/hazmat/bindings/_constant_time.so: invalid ELF header" [06:41] Now I have no idea if that will work with lambda. I wonder what happens if I package ssh with. Wonder where it extracts to... [06:42] Squirm: Can you give a tl;dr of what you're doing? [06:42] superfly: I built that on my OS X, then I built it on Ubuntu, both give the same error. I then tried on AWS Linux(Recommended), now I can't even get it to import [06:42] theblazehen: ssh with python on AWS lambda [06:43] with a key [06:43] Squirm: 1 sec. And python right? paramkio is that pure python ssh implementation right? [06:43] theblazehen: yes [06:43] interesting [06:44] Just found this line [06:44] If you want to include your own binaries, including native ones, just package them in the Zip file you upload and then reference them (including the relative path within the Zip file you created) [06:44] mornings [06:44] Wander if i could package the ssh bin [06:44] Hey thatgraemeguy [06:44] Squirm: but you'll need to compile ssh statically [06:44] Squirm: Might want to go with busybox, should be easier [06:44] Squirm: Or that mini ssh that they use for embedded? I think it has a client too? [06:44] hi thatgraemeguy [06:45] https://smokeping.home.theblazehen.com/smokeping/smokeping.cgi?displaymode=n;start=2016-07-25%2000:42;end=now;target=Local.localhost this is interesting... [06:46] Squirm: Not familiar with AWS lambda, did you package your own paramiko or get it from pip on their thing? [06:47] You have to package it yourself. [06:48] Squirm: Can you `import cryptography` on its own? [06:49] I'll try [06:50] Otherwise, before you load paramiko you can `cat /var/task/cryptography/hazmat/bindings/_constant_time.so | xz -9 -f | base64` in the shell [06:57] goodbye all [06:58] go well [06:58] later ra1v3n [06:58] later guys [06:59] ola Boots [07:00] hi andrewlsd [07:01] hi theblazehen [07:01] hi andrewlsd [07:01] Hi Kilos [07:11] time for chorews [07:11] chores as well [07:38] good morning [07:40] hi magespawn [07:42] morning all [08:03] morning nsnzero [08:40] Greets [08:40] hi dlPhreak [08:42] hi dlPhreak [08:46] ahoy ZA! [08:46] o/ [08:48] Kilos o/ [08:55] dlPhreak: great ty, and self? [08:56] hi chesedo [08:56] hmm... [08:56] hi again Kilos [08:56] oh and hi pavlushka [08:56] ohyes again hehe [08:57] ahoy chesedo ! [08:57] Kilos: first time i responded though :P [08:57] oh my [08:57] Kilos, chesedo, good thanks yourselves? [09:05] no, that one i already responded to :D [09:06] lol [09:06] my bad i forgot i greeted earlier [09:06] is it possible to set a virtual host for a webserver in local machine? does it need to set a VM first and then set the webserver on the VM and just use it like a remote machine? [09:06] Lol, good call or else we might fall into an infinite loop. [09:07] lol [09:07] lol, yeah my functions exit early... [09:08] Where can I report IP addresses that spam my site? [09:08] dlPhreak: denyhosts [09:09] pavlushka: you can just add a virtual host to a currently setup webserver [09:09] chesedo: how? [09:09] pavlushka: apache or nginx? [09:10] * chesedo can somewhat remember apache's setup.... [09:11] Thanks superfly I will look into that but what I actually want to do is to find a better way to report these IP's instead of having to go to directly to their service provider. [09:11] chesedo: tell me for apache first. [09:11] dlPhreak: are they sending you mail or just hitting your site? [09:12] Hitting my wordpress site with spam comments. I've blacklisted all of them in iptables so they're not doing anything but I would like to stop them more permanently. [09:13] pavlushka: create the virtual host file in the 'sites-available' dir, enable it (a2en something command) and restart apache... [09:14] dlPhreak: I'm afraid I don't know if you can do much more than that. [09:14] I've used denyhosts and sometimes manually submitted IP addresses, but there's not a huge amount you can do [09:14] dlPhreak: do you have a captcha? [09:15] pavlushka: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-apache-virtual-hosts-on-ubuntu-14-04-lts#step-four-%E2%80%94-create-new-virtual-host-files [09:16] chesedo: thanks, on it. [09:16] superfly: no I don't but I'm definitely going to get it but the majority of the spam comes from only a handful of places. I'm going to give denyhosts a try. [09:17] It's really just an annoyance rather than an actual threat. [09:17] Yup [09:19] pavlushka: another for reference -> https://www.unixmen.com/setup-apache-virtual-hosts-on-ubuntu-15-10/ [09:19] Is spam really a profitable business tho? [09:29] it must be otherwise it wouldn't happen [09:30] . [09:40] spam works :) even large organizations still get infected with ransomware ... which tends to come from spam [09:42] problem is it is almost free to send out, so you only need a tiny hit ratio to make it worthwhile [09:46] If it were possible to add even a tiny per email cost, like 0.1 cent charge per email or something would probably be sufficient to turn the tables. (Though thats only talking about email of course and ignoring e.g. web page forms) [09:50] thanks chesedo ! [10:02] * andrewlsd disconnects from quassel again [10:07] ai! [10:40] spam always works [12:36] so, using quassel now [12:37] ah thats my znc [12:37] to which I wanted to connect but quassel doesn't have a /server alias and I dunno how to set one up [12:38] the guys can advise [12:38] like magespawn and superfly and inetpro [12:49] I think I'm like, permabanned or something on #freenode since the damn bot never gives me voice [12:58] :) [12:58] you're ID'd? [13:20] I dunno but the bot doesn't do its thing so I can never speak there [13:21] anyway mirc works === jerit- is now known as jerit [13:22] apparently I'm banned on ##linux O_o pretty sure I was talking there fine yesterday [13:22] or was that ##programming [13:31] every time I try to sudo cp /target/directory/ /destination/directory/ it tells me "cp: ommitting directory '/target/directory/' [13:38] jerit you have to wait patiently [13:39] they have closed it because of spammers [13:39] oh [13:39] I see [13:39] so you wait then sooner or later you will get voice [13:39] there was someone you could pm [13:39] Wait that doesn't make much sense because there were at least 3 other people who got voice after I was in the channel [13:40] wait ill go there as well [13:41] try pm eir [13:51] jerit you arent there [13:51] I am though [13:51] oh my [13:52] channel is open on my end [13:52] just hang there [13:52] do you see me? [13:52] maybe only shows after you get voice [13:53] hi [13:54] hi chile [13:54] welcome to ubuntu-za [13:54] hi.. u into ubuntu development [13:54] I see Kilo`byte [13:54] nope [13:54] * Kilos is Kilos [13:54] and right at the bottom in the "unvoiced" section is you [13:55] ah [13:55] actually your nick is right below mine [13:55] i see you there as well [13:55] just hang [13:55] okk [13:55] no chile no you [13:56] i need help in ubuntu development [13:56] not you [13:56] will to get in touch with a team [13:56] or something [13:56] i think the channel is #ubuntu-dev [13:57] nope [13:57] ask in #ubuntu-community-team [13:57] joined but no one is there [13:57] they will point you right [13:59] chile how did you find us [13:59] are you in za [14:00] searching and ubuntu site [14:00] ah [14:00] well welcome here anyway, where are you? [14:01] Inida [14:01] India [14:01] you? [14:02] south africa [14:02] ill be working to sort your loco sometime in the future [14:03] nice [14:03] loco?? [14:03] local community [14:04] ok thanks a lot for that [14:10] chile you can hang here and watch a working loco mess around [14:21] jerit you must have voice now [14:22] so I do [14:22] but now I forgot what I wanted to talk about in there >.< [14:34] lol [14:48] wb SEptic [14:49] chile: try #ubuntu-app-devel [14:50] oh and jerit: 'cp: ommitting directory' means you are missing the 'R' flag for recursion [14:51] thanks :) figured that on a google search haha [14:52] lol, awesome [14:59] anyone using bitcon here? [15:00] bitcon [15:00] ? [15:04] bitcoin, typo [15:13] Kilos: do you know what the twitter notification is here -> https://trello.com/c/ovj2TZ5r/104-monthly-meeting-july-2016? [15:14] nope chesedo [15:16] maybe the tweet place should automagically tick that [15:16] inetpro ^^ [15:17] twiiter has two items on that list... [15:17] maybe it must be linked to tweets from @ubuntuza [15:17] is it maybe about sending a tweet to state that the meeting is starting (or about to start)? [15:18] yes must be an on the day thing at least [15:28] the pro is the trello man [15:28] im a follower [16:39] hey guys.. [16:55] turns out Jupiter doesn't orbit the sun the same way the rest of the solar system does [16:56] because its so massive, their combined center of mass (the sun and Jupiter's combined center of mass that is), is not in the center of the sun as with the other planets. It's actually 7% of the sun's radius above the surface of the sun and Jupiter orbits around that point [16:57] that makes for some intersting movement out there [16:59] I suppose in terms of the whole solar system in general it doesn't make much of a difference as we've seen that Jupiter's orbit is more or less the same as the rest of the planets [17:21] jerit: hmm, ok... but wouldn't this orbit point move around the sun as jupiter makes its orbit around the sun... [17:22] yes apparently it would [17:22] (this isn't to scale) https://gfycat.com/CloudyApprehensiveElephantseal [17:22] and is it inline with the the sun's center and that of jupiter's [17:22] http://www.iflscience.com/space/forget-wha-you-heard-jupiter-does-not-orbit-the-sun/ [17:27] oh i see... [17:31] lol .. what a fuss about nothing. 7%? [17:35] worry about stuff you can influence [17:38] * chesedo- thinks it is more of a terminology issue that [17:39] that G+ thing is supposed to send out meeting reminders isnt it [17:39] or do i have messed up settings somewhere [17:39] inetpro fixit [17:42] I would like to see the relative movement for that [17:50] ai! kulelu88 you still do the changing host thing [17:50] Kilos: ?? [17:50] wb otherwise [17:50] pm [17:54] anybody on ubuntu using hexchat? === HoloIRCUser3 is now known as nsn-zero [17:56] i would have to kill konversation first i think [17:56] will try again tomorrow and let you know kulelu88 [17:57] pavlushka you use hexchat hey [17:57] yep [17:58] yours logs in as unaffilated hey [17:58] Evening all [17:58] hi nsn-zero [17:59] Kilos: yes thats the vhost for me, :) [17:59] nsn-zero: Evening :) [17:59] Hi kilos, on my tablet today [17:59] cool [17:59] Hi pavlushka [18:00] hello nsn-zero ! [18:01] I thought the meeting was at 7 h30. Guess I am early [18:01] yes its at 8.30 [18:02] but you may hang here meantime [18:02] hehe [18:04] only 10 more needed [18:04] yoohoo [18:05] Kilos: 10 more for what exactly? [18:06] peeps [18:06] we 40 here now [18:06] oh [18:06] then pro says i may retire [18:07] I will try reception is bad [18:08] did it work? Kilos [18:08] yes [18:09] well done [18:09] my username wasn't right [18:09] what was wrong [18:09] hahaha [18:09] it was different to kulelu88 [18:09] well at least its fixed now [18:10] [19:28] lol .. what a fuss about nothing. 7%? << this is 48699km though [18:10] hi qwebirc25253 === qwebirc25253 is now known as Vince-0 [18:10] haai [18:10] oom [18:11] ohi Vince-0 wb [18:12] Kilos: maybe time for that twitter reminder? [18:12] ok [18:13] and evening kulelu88 nsn-zero and Vince-0 [18:13] hey chesedo- === chesedo- is now known as chesedo [18:15] hows your app coming kulelu88? [18:16] chesedo: the JS? I'm working on something else right now [18:16] kulelu88: yip [18:17] on the backburner for now [18:17] that happens at times... [18:18] hi guiz [18:18] hopefully that worked [18:18] had to hunt for password [18:19] Kilos: yes it did!! [18:19] w000t [18:19] did it fix trello? [18:20] eeh oom Kilos is learning l33t sp34k now also [18:20] Kilos: no, has to be done manually [18:20] Evening to all that joined [18:20] sigh [18:21] i found why what i ticked didnt show [18:21] save button right at the bottom [18:21] hi Cryterion [18:21] Kilos: g+ reminder is also working... [18:21] Evening everyone [18:21] does anyone use sublime text here? [18:22] Kilos: just think you have to be logged in... [18:22] evening Cryterion [18:22] oh [18:22] thats asking too much [18:22] kulelu88: nope, am using atom [18:22] im sure it used to send amils at one stage [18:22] mails [18:22] hi williamk [18:23] don't you find Atom slow? chesedo [18:23] welcome back [18:23] Hi kilos, All [18:24] Kilos: this time I put notes to remind me [18:24] wb jerit [18:24] Hi williamk, I do believe we're in the same area! [18:24] hahaha well done williamk [18:24] Cryterion: yes [18:25] kulelu88: no, not really - just to start maybe [18:25] Hello Cryterion ! [18:25] chesedo: I am hoping for #limetext to become a thing someday [18:25] we should meet up sometime, along with the others [18:26] hi williamk [18:26] heya pav [18:26] * chesedo sees we will have a full house tonight... [18:26] and kilos, chesedo, and everyone else again ;) [18:26] lol [18:26] lol [18:27] Cryterion: when we had the DLUG meetings, we met at Davenport Centre [18:27] ... we are in the loops today [18:27] hehe [18:28] chesedo dont ask me stuff [18:28] i wanna just read [18:28] williamk: Davenport Centre is fine, but I believe most of us south coast, so maybe Toti somewhere would suit for the next, when it happens [18:28] inetpro ping [18:29] Kilos: are you sure :P [18:29] about what chesedo [18:29] hi zaki [18:29] not asking you stuff? [18:29] hlw Kilos :) [18:29] the internet is the only place you discover that white okes live in KZN :D [18:29] * chesedo now got away with two :P [18:30] well if i have to hunt for stuff i cant keep up here [18:30] Kilos: will do my best [18:30] all ready... [18:30] yaya [18:30] Maaz: start meeting about Ubuntu Monthly Meeting - August 2016 [18:30] * Maaz gets out his memo-pad and cracks his knuckles [18:30] Maaz: topic Welcoming and Introduction [18:30] Current Topic: Welcoming and Introduction [18:31] A warm welcome to all and thanks for joining in on our monthly meeting [18:31] ty chesedo [18:31] Our bot maaz does the minutes as usual so please introduce yourself to it using `Maaz: I am ` eg. [18:31] maaz: I'm Gavin Bauer [18:31] Cryterion: What? [18:31] Maaz I am Miles Sharpe [18:31] Kilos: Yessir [18:31] Maaz: I am Pieter Engelbrecht [18:31] chesedo: Okay [18:31] hmm, lol [18:31] Maaz: I am Gavin Bauer [18:31] Cryterion: Done [18:31] Cryterion: 'I am' [18:32] hi nlsthzn [18:32] Maaz: I am Sicelo [18:32] Sicelo: Yessir [18:32] Maaz : I am William Kinghorn [18:32] williamk: Yessir [18:32] just in time [18:32] or am I? [18:32] Maaz: I am Raoul Snyman [18:32]