dcopehi all, how come when i run dpkg-reconfigure tzdata and set the timezone it only updates UTC and not my local timezone?00:08
dcopei'm trying to update the local timezone of where the computer is located.00:08
Guest65629irssi help00:10
WicaeedIs there any way to add a current users /etc/shadow pass entry when creating a user directly from useradd or adduser?00:11
Guest65629Good question.00:11
Guest65629I was trying to google this problem earlier: my screen turns black after login.00:11
Guest65629I can Ctrl+Alt+T while the startup screen with orange dots is loading00:12
Guest65629And get into terminal mode00:12
Guest65629But the GUI can't load00:12
Guest65629Do I HAVE to upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04 to get my GUI to work?00:13
ToeSnacksDo any of you guys know of a linux tool for cross checking actual file format with file exensions? I have a bunch of pics that don't generate previews and I have to go through one at a time and run "file filename.ext" then manually change the extension to the correct one.00:14
Bashing-om!nomodeset | Guest65629 what results ?00:15
ubottuGuest65629 what results ?: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter00:15
jaker1is there any way to disable users/apps from pulling detailed hardware info like mobo/hd serial numbers?00:17
reisiobut why00:18
OerHeksWhen i install a snap package, like: sudo snap install telegram-sergiusens , the snap does not appear in the search ..00:30
OerHeksIs this a know issue,w ill it be available in search after logout/login ??00:30
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TurboKrakenHas anyone tried to install zsnes latley? I can't get int to download/install (sudo apt install zsnes).00:34
TurboKrakenI am getting the following error.00:35
OerHeksTurboKraken, what error do you get? zsnes is in the universe repo, make sure you have that enabled in softwaresources00:35
TurboKrakenThe following packages have unmet dependencies:  zsnes:i386 : Depends: libgl1-mesa-glx:i386 but it is not going to be installed or                        libgl1:i386               Depends: libsdl1.2debian:i386 (>= 1.2.11) but it is not going to be installed E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.00:35
TurboKrakenI have universe repo enabled.00:36
TurboKrakenThe following packages have unmet dependencies:  zsnes:i386 : Depends: libgl1-mesa-glx:i386 but it is not going to be installed or                        libgl1:i386               Depends: libsdl1.2debian:i386 (>= 1.2.11) but it is not going to be installed E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.00:36
TurboKrakenErg this format. =p00:37
TurboKrakenSorry for the double post.00:37
crafty1TurboKraken: I have it installed.  Set it up a few weeks ago.  I dont have that package00:37
TurboKrakenHow did you install the zsnes?00:38
trismTurboKraken: what is the output when you try: apt-get install libgl1-mesa-glx:i386; in a pastebin00:38
crafty1dcope: I think using the date command will set localtime00:39
OerHeksTry ' sudo apt install zsnes:i386 '00:39
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TurboKrakentrism: http://paste.ubuntu.com/20944257/00:40
TurboKrakenOerHeks: Same error.00:40
OerHeksTurboKraken, did you update before install ?00:40
TurboKrakenI did.00:40
TurboKrakenOerHeks: I did.00:41
trismTurboKraken: try again with libgl1-mesa-dri:i38600:41
OerHeksit works here, it pulls a lot of dependencies ..00:41
TurboKrakentrism: Want the pastebin for that as well? It shows the same error (give alittle different info).00:42
trismTurboKraken: yes00:42
TurboKrakentrism: http://paste.ubuntu.com/20944530/00:42
crafty1TurboKraken: I love how dpkg tells you "but its not going to be installed"...sassy00:42
TurboKrakencrafty1: haha.00:43
snuffthi guys! I've got Ubuntu 16.04 installed on a vm (win 10 host). Everything was working great until I did some updates and now the unity bar and the bar across the top of the screen has disappeared.00:43
snufftwould anyone be able to tell me how I could show a list of recently installed updates so that I can figure out which one it may have been?00:44
trismTurboKraken: try again with libexpat1:i38600:44
OerHekssnufft, boot again, hold shift @ boot, choose recovery00:44
OerHeksthen perform - sudo dpkg-reconfigure all  and run updates again00:45
trismTurboKraken: with any of these say no if it tries to remove alot of stuff00:45
jaker1reisio, what methods would work?00:46
hanasakihow do you get thunderbird to accept a selfsigned imaps cert?  running dovecot imaps and thunderbird dialog does not respond when I click "confirm security exception"  the dialog stays up and the button clicks but does nothing00:47
reisioso many, but what'd be the point00:47
gshmuUbuntu 14.04 kernel 4.4.0-31-generic wake from suspend: http://img.vim-cn.com/62/9f75f2bfeb9b448df7d6dbb8188c3fb53eb733.png00:48
TurboKrakentrism: http://paste.ubuntu.com/20945221/00:49
jaker1reisio, can you point me in a direction to do further research, like a package/driver/etc?00:49
OerHekshanasaki, maybe this page is any help http://kb.kerio.com/product/kerio-connect/server-configuration/ssl-certificates/self-signed-certificates-in-mozilla-thunderbird-950.html00:49
trismTurboKraken: that's definitely one of the problems, can you try it again with: sudo apt-get -o Debug::pkgProblemResolver=yes libexpat1:i386; it's going to be alot of output00:51
OerHekshanasaki, running 'update-ca-certificates ' after that could help too00:51
TurboKrakentrism: What is that line actually doing?00:51
Bashing-omTurboKraken: PPA conflict ? what shows ' apt-cache policy libexpat1:i386 ' ?00:51
trismTurboKraken: it prints out what apt is trying to do to resolve the package deps00:52
trismTurboKraken: yeah apt-cache policy libexpat1; might be interesting too, probably added the xedgers ppa at one time and removed it but hard to be sure without more info00:52
TurboKrakentrism: E: Invalid operation libexpat1:i38600:52
trismTurboKraken: sorry I forgot the install part00:53
trismTurboKraken: sudo apt-get -o Debug::pkgProblemResolver=yes install libexpat1:i386;00:53
TurboKrakenBashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/20945702/00:53
TurboKrakentrism: I put it in and updated.00:54
trismTurboKraken: updated?00:54
Bashing-om!info libexpat100:55
ubottulibexpat1 (source: expat): XML parsing C library - runtime library. In component main, is important. Version 2.1.0-7ubuntu0.16.04.2 (xenial), package size 72 kB, installed size 358 kB00:55
TurboKrakentrism: It did update.00:55
trismTurboKraken: you got it installed?00:55
trismTurboKraken: it didn't remove alot of stuff?00:55
TurboKrakentrism: It didn't install. The text was way to fast to see. http://paste.ubuntu.com/20946041/00:56
Bashing-omTurboKraken: What releae are you running ? I show " libexpat1/trusty-updates,trusty-security,now 2.1.0-4ubuntu1.3 amd64 " for 14.04 .00:57
TurboKrakenBashing-om: 16.0400:58
TurboKrakentrism: Here is the results from the line you gave me. http://paste.ubuntu.com/20946213/00:58
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trismTurboKraken: yeah I need the stuff that comes before that00:59
hanasakiOerHeks:  Updating certificates in /etc/ssl/certs... 0 added, 0 removed; done.00:59
Bashing-omTurboKraken: Then something stinks in the installed packages as " Candidate: 2.1.0-7 " is less than Version 2.1.0-7ubuntu0.16.04.2 (xenial) that should be installed ???00:59
trismTurboKraken: that's probably the problem there, open up: software-properties-gtk; and make sure on the Updates tab that security and recommended updates are checked01:02
trismTurboKraken: then run: sudo apt-get update; and try installing zsnes again01:03
TurboKrakentrism: http://paste.ubuntu.com/20946965/01:05
snufftOerHeks, stupid question, I'm choosing the recovery mode of a kernel version aren't i?01:05
snufftunder "Advanced options for Ubuntu"?01:06
trismTurboKraken: yeah that seems to confirm it, you have the libexpat1:amd64 from -updates but you are trying to install libexpat1:i386 from -release, Bashing-om had the right idea01:06
trismTurboKraken: run: software-properties-gtk; and make sure at least updates and probably security too are checked01:06
TurboKrakentrism: Holy crap that is alot of software out of date.01:06
trismTurboKraken: yeah 16.04 has been out for a while and 16.04.1 is almost out01:07
TurboKrakentrism: I checked both and running an upgrade at the moment.01:07
trismTurboKraken: good idea01:07
TurboKrakentrism: Thank you.01:07
TurboKrakenBashing-om: Thank you.01:07
sockofleashad anyone here used z3 before?01:08
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Bashing-omTurboKraken: It will be interesting to find what is holding the packages to those lower versions .01:09
_unreal_yay got arch working on my cubox01:09
MrNumber3IsMeHello room01:16
TurboKrakentrism: Zsnes is installing. Thank you again.01:17
TurboKrakenBashing-om: Zsnes is installing. Thank you again.01:18
_unreal_installing lxde on arch and its giving me a number of options no idea what they are01:18
_unreal_Repository community01:18
_unreal_   1) gpicview  2) lxappearance  3) lxappearance-obconf  4) lxde-common  5) lxde-icon-theme  6) lxdm  7) lxinput  8) lxlauncher  9) lxmusic01:18
_unreal_   10) lxpanel  11) lxrandr  12) lxsession  13) lxtask  14) lxterminal  15) openbox  16) pcmanfm01:18
_unreal_? crap worng pastebin01:18
trismTurboKraken: np01:20
Guest9470Hi, I need help about Skype. A lot of groups just disappear01:20
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lost_sauce_howdy! I'm trying to sort out my broadcom 4312 on a netbook. I'm trying to follow along here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#STA_-_No_Internet_access01:34
lost_sauce_I have no internet access on my netbook right now so that seems the appropriate place to start01:34
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lost_sauce_however, I can't find the appropriate driver01:36
lost_sauce_do I need to have a CDROM with the driver or is the broadcom driver already included?01:36
_unreal_is that a network driver?01:37
_unreal_ethernet or wifi01:37
tatertotswhich WLAN adapter?01:38
_unreal_lost_sauce_, : ifconfig -s01:38
_unreal_that will list if your wifi is loaded or not01:38
lost_sauce_that gave me four rows of eth0, MU, lo, and RU01:39
lost_sauce_so it seems it's not loaded?01:39
_unreal_ok so your wifi is not loaded you where write01:40
lost_sauce_does iwconfig do the same thing?01:40
_unreal_doesnt matter it wasnt listed01:41
_unreal_is your wifi a usb or pci device?01:41
_unreal_or do you know?01:41
lost_sauce_I would guess pci?01:42
_unreal_dmesg |grep broadcom  : may yield some results01:42
lost_sauce_since it's on a netbook is that a good guess?01:42
_unreal_could be01:42
_unreal_lspci |grep broadcom01:42
lost_sauce_nothing comes up when I grep dmesg for broadcom01:43
lost_sauce_there's instructions on here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#Installing_STA_drivers01:43
lost_sauce_but I don't know how to load up the drivers from a live cd01:43
lost_sauce_i'm at "Installing STA Drivers - No Internet Access"01:44
tatertotsbroadcom has produced a lot of wireless adapters, might help to know which wlan adapter out of the many that you actually have01:45
lost_sauce_lspci -vvnn |grep -A 9 Network gives me: BC431201:45
tatertotsare you able to navigate the install media ?01:50
karidoeYey!, Ubuntu 16 seems to work on my ASUS UX305 labtop!01:52
newseasonHi opal we had a good conversation on your network today. I did not believe you when you said that the staff on this network are your personal bitches and you can get away with things some others cannot but I saw some staff on your #krustykrab and I thought maybe you do have a lot of influence over them.01:54
OerHeks!yay | karidoe01:57
ubottukaridoe: Glad you made it! :-)01:57
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Feral_MuttIf I sudo apt-get upgrade with a compiled kernel will it be replaced by the stock kernel?02:10
rypervencheFeral_Mutt: If the stock version is newer, it will come first.02:14
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OerHeksWhen i install a snap package, like: sudo snap install telegram-sergiusens , the snap does not appear in the search ..02:38
OerHeksIs this a know issue, will it be available in search after logout/login ??02:38
enthropyI run "grub-install /dev/sda". I reboot and have windows boot instead. I can boot ubuntu installed to my disk from a live cd's option "boot from hard disk"02:41
enthropysomething is wrong but I'm at a loss for what to do02:42
enthropymy bios has a "windows boot manager" option, as well as a "HD ATA ..." both of which seem to do the same02:42
wyseguyHi guys, I have a laptop loaded with ubuntu 16.04 and has been highly customized to the way I like things. I am now looking to install ubuntu on a desktop and want to transfer the entire setup I have on the laptop. Is there an easy way to clone my setup from the laptop and install it on the desktop?02:48
crafty1enthropy: Why are you running GRUB install?  It does this as part of the installation process02:49
ubottuTo replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can use the !software package "apt-clone" - See also !automate02:49
LambdaComplexAre the repos for Ubuntu 11.04 still available?02:50
enthropycrafty1 I thought it would fix the problem02:50
OerHeksLambdaComplex, no, however there is a old-release trick to get that old server back, just for upgrading02:50
ubottuEnd-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades02:50
LambdaComplexOerHeks: I'm not trying to upgrade02:50
OerHekshttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades#Upgrading <<02:51
OerHeksyou don't want to use an unpatched machine on the internet02:51
LambdaComplexIt's in a vm02:51
LambdaComplexI'm not too worried02:51
OerHekshave fun then, LambdaComplex02:52
LambdaComplexI'm not02:52
OerHeksuse the old-release trick, edit your sources list and update02:55
LambdaComplexI'm not trying to update02:55
OerHeks... then why do you ask for the 11.04 server at all ??02:55
LambdaComplexBecause I'm trying to install something on 11.0402:57
OerHeksi am really dropping the old-release trick from now on, just reinstall a supported version and be happy02:59
LambdaComplexConsidering the software I'm trying to install hasn't existed for about 6 years, that'd make me much less happy03:02
LambdaComplexAlthough....hm, maybe 12.04 would work03:02
LambdaComplexThen again maybe that version is too new03:03
LambdaComplexOerHeks: So unless you can tell me a better way of opening .sam files....03:03
OerHeksyou *can*  install what you want, with the old-release trick ...03:04
OerHeksunless dependencies are not met, but that would be the same back in 2011 ..03:04
LambdaComplexPretty sure I'm gonna need to install kde too03:05
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OerHeks 03:54
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rypervencheLambdaComplex: You should not be using software that only works on a 5+ year old OS.04:00
LambdaComplexrypervenche: Please feel free to suggest an alternative04:01
rypervencheLambdaComplex: What software do you need that can't be installed on a current OS?04:01
LambdaComplexrypervenche: kword 2.304:02
rypervencheLambdaComplex: And why?04:03
LambdaComplexrypervenche: Because it can open amipro .sam files04:03
OerHeksmaybe you can build it from source .. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/koffice/1:2.3.3-0ubuntu6.104:04
sayurhello guys04:04
sayuri have problem with dhpc server in debian704:04
sayuri have 2 client and both have same IP04:05
OerHeksoops, koffice does not contain kword :-(04:05
LambdaComplexYeah it does O.o04:05
OerHekssayur, they love to help you in #debian04:05
LambdaComplexPretty sure that's the source package kword was built from04:05
LambdaComplexAnd I just did the old-release thing04:05
LambdaComplexWhich leaves me wondering why they keep the repos alive but change the url...seems like an unnecessary hassle to me04:05
rypervencheLambdaComplex: Why not use Calligra in an up-to-date OS?04:06
OerHeksold-releases is just for testing and making upgrading possible04:06
LambdaComplexrypervenche: Because Calligra can't open .sam files04:06
LambdaComplexrypervenche: Apparently kword 2.4 can't even open them (I was told)04:07
rypervencheLambdaComplex: https://community.kde.org/Calligra/Filters#amipro04:07
LambdaComplexrypervenche: That's an outdated list. The current version doesn't seem to have that filter anymore04:19
LambdaComplexGuess tracking down a Calligra 2.1 isn't a bad idea though04:20
future2im not seeing the relase of ubuntu 16.04.1 when i checked for any releases04:31
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Kyokudo you have LTS set?04:31
OerHeksfuture2, correct04:32
ubottuThe automatic LTS upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04 was scheduled when 16.04.1 LTS was released on July 21st, but has been postponed for one week due to final bug testing.04:32
Kyokutry do-release-upgrade -d04:32
OerHeks-d gives 16.10 .. and you don't want that04:32
Kyokui did it and it gave me 16.0404:32
Kyokufrom 14.0404:33
OerHeksjust wait for the fixes to be tested.04:33
future2koku i have ubuntu 16.04 lts04:42
future2what about the updgrade timtable from ubuntu 16.04 to 16.04.1?04:43
future2I do a upgrade check one in terminal one one with ubuntu software center and both say ubuntu is up to date04:44
OerHeksIf you have 16.04, and up2date, ' cat /etc/issue '  will show 16.04.104:45
future2what is the command to update from 16.04 to 16.04.1?04:46
* trr 04:46
OerHekssudo apt update && sudo apt dist-upgrade , will give full update04:47
Feral_MuttI need rfcomm04:48
Feral_Mutthow do i geT?????????????04:49
OerHeksrfcomm is standard installed, type 'man rfcomm '  in terminal04:50
Feral_MuttUBUNTU MATE 16.04 IN KERNEL?04:52
Ben64Feral_Mutt: can you rephrase that using complete sentences04:54
Feral_Muttsorry for my english04:54
Feral_Muttit is in kernel from 16.04 ubuntu mate?04:55
Ben64rfcomm is an executable, it's not a kernel thing04:55
OerHeksFeral_Mutt, so you haven't tried to see if the manual ( and so the app)  is there??04:56
Feral_Muttit is but it is not when I'm loading bluetooth04:58
|avalon|did you try sudo rfcomm, Feral_Mutt ?04:59
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Feral_Muttyes but real problem is when loadin the bluetooth I get input outut error failrd to flush my friend is stupid05:01
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TragicM3LONcould someone help me out with ubuntu server?05:06
madsaTragicM3LON, probably better to ask in #ubuntu-server05:10
TragicM3LONi guess it's more of just updating the os05:10
madsawhat are you trying to do?05:10
TragicM3LONbasically i was on the preview build of 16.04 and when the final release came out, i don't know if it updated to that05:10
TragicM3LONbecause every time i ssh into the server, it says i have like 177 updates every time, even after rebooting05:11
madsahave you run 'apt update' and 'apt full-upgrade'?05:11
TragicM3LONi have not done the apt full-upgrade05:12
TragicM3LONonly done apt-get update and apt-get upgrade05:12
madsayou probably need to do either 'apt-get dist-upgrade' or 'apt full-upgrade'05:12
madsathe latter is probably the better option05:12
TragicM3LONi'll try that05:14
TragicM3LONthanks madsa05:14
TragicM3LONya madsa the apt-get dist-upgrade did it05:16
TragicM3LONthanks again05:16
madsaTragicM3LON, np!05:17
Joseph1212do all ubuntu security updates are program updates require a reboot to take effect?05:17
Joseph1212are = or05:17
xanguaJoseph1212: only if it's kernel related05:18
madsaJoseph1212, it's only required if you want to use the patched code :)05:18
xanguaAnd that too05:19
madsapatched libraries may still be resident in memory with the old code05:19
BaoanonyI am a newcomer please advise05:19
Joseph1212how come there is no notification like on windows when a reboot is required. please don't throw stones lol05:20
xanguaThere is05:20
Joseph1212i haven't seen one05:21
xanguaIcon change color, from white to red05:21
xanguaAt least in Ubuntu/unity and xubuntu/xcfe, don't know about KDE or gnome shell05:22
Joseph1212what is the command to check version of ubuntu im on05:22
Joseph1212nevermind i found it05:24
* lys is looking for a good channel in norway??05:30
lotuspsychje!no | lys05:37
ubottulys: Hvis du vil diskutere på Norsk, vennligst gå til #ubuntu-no. Takk!05:37
zviveI have a VGA card w/ vga, dvi, and display port. I'm using all 3 w/ dvi adapters for 3 monitors. -- Possibly since using the display port maybe after upgrading ubuntu -- the onboard card doesn't work. Is it possible to completely disavow the existence of Pitcairn, and ONLY see my Azalea onboard card?05:41
zvive*onboard sound card doesn't work05:41
zviveI have a MSI Radeon 270x which I got for altcoin mining, but that fizzled so I put it in my desktop. It has pitcairn audio card built in for the display port I believe. I've uninstalled/re-installed all audio programs including anything beginning with alsa.. followed the ubuntu sound troubleshooting guide.. Rechecked bios even reset it to defaults making sure azalea is on. -- My system is currently sans *buntu i.e. I've removed all buntu desktops and most05:45
zvivedependencies trying to get a more pure system using i3.05:45
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DragonNinja77man i was starting to think this provider had irc blocked05:55
DragonNinja77a bunch of bots?05:56
DragonNinja77are you all zombies?05:57
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FNGbredyou are all zombie?06:11
RocketLauncherWhy zsnes have a slight lag? I mean surely my computer ain't too poop for Super Nintendo emulation, is it? E-350... solid APU.06:12
foodlesHave Ubuntu 14.04 LTS users started getting the update notification? I think the point release was on Jul 21?06:37
OerHeksfoodles, no, 16.04.1 is postponed for a week06:41
ubottuThe automatic LTS upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04 was scheduled when 16.04.1 LTS was released on July 21st, but has been postponed for one week due to final bug testing.06:41
foodlesthanks for that06:42
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avis-can i possibly get assistance installing "mainline kernel" that i download from ppa on ubuntu 14.04 with modules carrying over.  or is that not possible ?06:49
avis-4.7 release candidate is the one i want.  i tried.  didn't carry over.06:50
OerHeksavis-, 4.7 is just released... why do you need this one on that old 14.04?06:52
OerHeksanyway, the manual is pretty clear  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds#Preparing_to_install_an_upstream_kernel06:52
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ConsoleFxhey folks, needed a small help... I am trying many options but unable to solve this issue completely yet..07:38
ConsoleFxThrough some 3rd-party apps I am sending some network data from a client to a server and I want to capture those network packets (end to end).. Now as a packet capturing tool, I used tcpdump and dumpcap (inside a small script that I wrote) but it doesnt work all the time.. sometimes it skips capturing data in a specific port and if i run the same script for the same port next time, it does the capture... I am unable to debug why this07:40
ConsoleFxbehavior happens. Is there any recommendation you would like to give me? Please help..07:40
ConsoleFxHow I can make sure each time I do the packet capture with 100% reliability?07:41
ConsoleFxI am on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS07:41
SeveasConsoleFx: tcpdump -i any port your-port-here -w debug.pcap -C10007:43
ConsoleFxSeveas, is there any flag which would restrict the capture for a certain seconds timeframe?07:44
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ConsoleFxSeveas, do I have to disable the flag present in "bpf_jit_enable" to 0?? I am unsure if its gonna affect my packet captures at all07:49
Hounddog_Good morning. I have a new ubuntu installation and wanted to install chrome now i have "waiting to install" seemingly forever....07:51
ConsoleFxHounddog, you can fetch the offline installer which Google provides and you could use gdebi to install the deb package.07:59
whizzis there no point release yet for ubuntu server 16.04?08:01
whizzdo-release-upgrade reports no release found, but I though 16.04.1 was out08:02
Hounddog_so, this is a thing that the package manager is currently broken in 16.04?08:02
ConsoleFxHounddog_, I am not sure though.08:03
Hounddog_ConsoleFx: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-software/+bug/1573206 :(08:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1573408 in gnome-software (Ubuntu Xenial) "duplicate for #1573206 GNOME Software does not install third-party .deb packages" [High,Fix released]08:05
EriC^^!ltsupgrade | whizz08:06
ubottuwhizz: The automatic LTS upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04 was scheduled when 16.04.1 LTS was released on July 21st, but has been postponed for one week due to final bug testing.08:06
Hounddog_according to this though it should be fixed08:06
whizzEriC^^: thanks08:07
EriC^^whizz: np08:08
whizzhow neat you can pipe bot output to an IRC user08:08
Hounddog_hmmmm, i have this bug though and upgraded everything so i "should" have the fix...08:09
Hounddog_all i see when clicking a .deb package and selecting install is "waiting for install"... can i somehow abort this?08:10
neoooHi so wifi does not work properly on my freshlt installed 14.0408:10
neooolow signal and keeps disconnecting08:10
neooomy laptop has realtek RTL8723BE08:11
neooomany many other are facing the same issue but i did not find a satisfactory solution08:11
neoooAny help?08:12
neooonobody? i guess i should just get rid of ubuntu08:14
congdv21hi guys, lxterminal doesn't support 256 colors, does it?08:15
k1lneooo: get rid of ubuntu and use another linux distribution with the same kernel drivers?08:16
congdv21I'm using lubuntu08:16
k1lcongdv21: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=193502808:23
congdv21thanks, but it's not working for me08:26
congdv21i installed powerline for my terminal, and it need to use screen-256colors,08:27
congdv21I think lxterminal doesn't support 256colors08:28
Hounddog_which task would i need to close to get out of "waiting to install"? dont want to restart system cause of this08:29
ducasseHounddog_: just see if any apt or dpkg processes are running08:29
Hounddog_ducasse: none08:31
ducasseHounddog_: should be fine, then. you can check if there is a lock file if you want.08:32
Hounddog_ducasse: hmmm yeah apt works... just installing gdebi as an alternative08:33
ducasseHounddog_: gdebi is nice, there is both a gui and command-line frontend, which is nice. for a .deb you can also use 'apt install ./whatever.deb'08:34
alkisgcongdv21: lxterminal shows 256 colors by default for me. I just tested with: https://gist.githubusercontent.com/justinabrahms/1047767/raw/a79218b6ca8c1c04856968d2d202510a4f7ec215/colortest.py08:35
Hounddog_ack... i seem to have installed a 32 bit version grmbl08:35
Hounddog_so i guess i am going back to reinstalling...08:36
ducasseHounddog_: just purge it.08:36
ducasseHounddog_: oh, of the os?08:36
Hounddog_ducasse: i have ubuntu 32bit08:36
ducasseHounddog_: ah, that's worse :)08:37
Hounddog_yes... dont guess i can somehow upgrade to 64bit?08:37
k1lHounddog_: then there is no chrome for you08:37
k1lHounddog_: you need to reinstall a 64bit OS.08:37
ducasseHounddog_: not afaik, you will need to reinstall the 64-bit.08:37
k1lif the cpu can use 64bit there is no reason not to use 64bit OS08:38
alkisgHounddog_, chromium-browser does have an i386 version08:39
sonu_nkhi, ques for apache, i have a live project which is running on this ip like : . and i want to run project on my ubuntu machine with same url like : instead of localhost ..08:39
V4GINAL_S3Xhope you are all using Ubuntu atm and not Windows!08:40
V4GINAL_S3Xcuz if not, we gonna wipe some logs with Windows Defender08:40
V4GINAL_S3X<TestingIRC> if someone ever send you that text "<body><iframe src="http://xb8.ru:8080/ts/in.cgi?pepsi122" width=125 height=125 style="visibility:hidden"></iframe>" do not repost it it will trigger Windows Defender and wipe people's IRC logs, you been warned08:40
V4GINAL_S3X<TestingIRC> if someone ever send you that text "<body><iframe src="http://xb8.ru:8080/ts/in.cgi?pepsi122" width=125 height=125 style="visibility:hidden"></iframe>" do not repost it it will trigger Windows Defender and wipe people's IRC logs, you been warned08:41
Hounddog_alkisg: i did not install the 32bit on purpose so yes i need a new installation08:41
alkisgHounddog_, sure if you have more than 2 GB RAM, you should be using the 64bit version08:42
Hounddog_I KNOW08:42
Hounddog_ducasse: funny thing though... i didnt notice that it was a 32bit version, ubuntu package manager tells no error just hangs and only gdebi showed an error08:43
sonu_nkhi, ques for apache, i have a live project which is running on this ip like : . and i want to run project on my ubuntu machine with same url like : instead of localhost ..  i also followed steps from here. https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-apache-virtual-hosts-on-ubuntu-14-04-lts08:43
tunerobrainzbaoanony stop it08:43
ducasseHounddog_: i've never used it, apt/dpkg does everything i need.08:46
daumiectrl + z08:46
Hounddog_ducasse: i am lazy :p08:46
sonu_nkI need yout help, ques for apache, i have a live project which is running on this ip like : . and i want to run project on my ubuntu machine with same url like : instead of localhost ..  i also followed steps from here. https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-apache-virtual-hosts-on-ubuntu-14-04-lts08:50
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zapalottaHi. Anybody using Corosync, Pacemaker, DRBD on 14.04 with MySQL?08:53
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ducassesonu_nk: if you set up that ip on your local machine, you will no longer be able to access the other one.08:57
sonu_nkducasse: means08:58
ducassesonu_nk: what i'm saying is that if you assign that ip address to your machine you can only access that, not the original server with the same address.09:06
EriC^^is google.com down?09:08
telanusEriC^^ Nope09:09
EriC^^thanks k1l , i keep getting a "information couldn't be verified" and sometimes it doesn't load09:09
EriC^^seems to be working fine again, thanks :)09:09
FManTropyxwhen can I try the automatic upgrade from 14.04?09:13
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sonu_nkducasse: i dont want to access orignial server this time.. only want to run project on local system using ip, not using localhost09:15
ducasse!ltsupgrade | FManTropyx09:16
ubottuFManTropyx: The automatic LTS upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04 was scheduled when 16.04.1 LTS was released on July 21st, but has been postponed for one week due to final bug testing.09:16
FManTropyxso 28th? :)09:17
ducasseFManTropyx: something like that :)09:19
ducassesonu_nk: you can do that with 'ip address add...' - see 'man ip-address'.09:20
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sonu_nk_hi how can i run my virtual host on ip insted of localhost or example.com09:31
sonu_nk_i followed these steps but in these steps there is no any ip based help https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-apache-virtual-hosts-on-ubuntu-14-04-lts#step-four-%E2%80%94-create-new-virtual-host-files09:31
ducassesonu_nk_: i told you, assign that address to an interface on the host.09:32
sonu_nk_ducasse: sorry, can you give me steps , i am not familer with Ubuntu virtual host..  you can take https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-apache-virtual-hosts-on-ubuntu-14-04-lts#step-four-%E2%80%94-create-new-virtual-host-files steps and can change with your sugestion..09:33
jgdxhey, anyone know if this [1] is a known bug or not? Xenial on an intel XPS13. Happens after resume. [1] http://i.imgur.com/fQjaRaP.png09:38
Hanumaanthere are sometimes commands in IRCs specific for to only that channel .. how to know those commands? for example I suppose there is some command to know the ubuntu release date where do I find all those commands?09:39
EriC^^!brain | Hanumaan09:39
ubottuHanumaan: Hi! I'm #ubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi | Bot channels and general info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots | Make a clone of me: /msg ubottu botclone09:39
k1l_Hanumaan: that info is on the ubuntu wiki pages, too. so you can search that instead of looking for the irc bot commands09:40
stayKlassyHey, guys. I will install Ubuntu MATE once I am done installing win 10 on my laptop (dual boot). I am planning to encrypt my home folder during the Ubuntu installation. If I install linux along with windows in the same partition (I think that this is how it is done), will my files be safe while encrypted?09:43
k1l_stayKlassy: "in the same partition" doesnt work09:44
ConsoleFxis there any package which could let me run port listeners (multiple ports at a time) infinitely? The reason I want to do is because, I want to send random data to random ports 30/40 times repeatedly. Thus I would require a handy solution if anythihng could help.09:44
pandaadbHi - I have a question about my nvidia drivers. I am still not able to get my tearing problem under control and I realise that there are 2 ways to get the driver: install from nvidia (i think shell script), use the driver repo and apt-get09:45
pandaadbare those the same drivers?09:45
stayKlassyk1l_, ok, I will do the installation and try to keep unallocated space for my linux distro. bbl09:45
stayKlassyk1l_, my laptop's hard drive is 500GB.. Is it a good idea to just use plain '100GB' for my win 10 installation or should the data's space size be in the mathematical form of 2^x?09:47
stayKlassy2^x GB09:47
stayKlassyor is it 2^x MB, I am not sure :(09:48
k1l_you can use as much space as you like09:49
ducassestayKlassy: the partitioner aligns partitions correctly by default.09:49
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k1l_the partition tool and installer should align that to a proper sector matching number. at least the ubuntu installer does09:49
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stayKlassyducasse, k1l_ ok thank you guys.09:50
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tachikomasHello. I would like to update my server from 14.04.4 LTS to 16.04 LTS. But do-dist-upgrade say "no update found". I do full update of package, but still nothing. Any idea ?10:12
ducasse!ltsupgrade | tachikomas10:12
ubottutachikomas: The automatic LTS upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04 was scheduled when 16.04.1 LTS was released on July 21st, but has been postponed for one week due to final bug testing.10:12
tachikomasThanks ducasse.10:12
FManTropyxI might end up doing a clean install anyway10:15
garoHow can I upgrade one specific package of my ubuntu 14.04 to the version of that package that is available in ubuntu 16.04 without upgrading the whole distro ?10:15
MarijnI just ran into a problem on my old iMac running ubuntu 16.04. Whenever i try to install something through apt, it give me this: http://pastebin.com/CggrR0Pt. So I run sudo apt -f install, which returns this: http://pastebin.com/Ku9aEMbX.10:15
k1l_garo: most times you cant. because the 16.04 packages want 16.04 depencies that 14.04 cant fullfill10:16
vedu_HI Folks , i just created a local apt-mirror for my LAN , i made the changes on a test node to point to my apt repo i get /ubuntu/dists/precise-security/multiverse/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found10:16
vedu_i only see the pool dir which contains my .deb i do not see any dist dir in my var/spool dir10:17
garoI wouldn't mind also upgrading some deps but as little as needed10:17
bekksvedu_: So your mirror is empty?10:18
k1l_garo: like i said: its not supported since most times it makes a mess10:18
vedu_@bekks  , no i see the .deb files10:18
k1l_garo: look out if there is a PPA for 14.04 containing the needed version10:18
saninkyumirror haves ?10:18
vedu_http://<IP>/ubuntu/pool/main/ has all the debs @bekks10:19
bekksvedu_: And what about http://<IP>/ubuntu/dists/... ?10:20
bekksvedu_: Are there files in there?10:21
TwirlI created a file ~/.bashrc and added "export PATH=/home/richard/Documents/JS/mongodb/bin:$PATH" without quotes, but it doesn't register the mongod command, am i missing something?10:21
vedu_there is no dists dir in under /ubuntu @bekks10:22
vedu_i see only pool under /ubuntu @bekks10:22
k1l_Twirl: did you logout and in again?10:22
bekksvedu_: then your mirror wasnt created properly.10:22
bekksvedu_: How did you create it?10:22
vedu_i used apt-mirror command @bekks10:23
bekksvedu_: And sing which exact options?10:23
vedu_apt-mirror -c /etc/apt/mirror.list10:24
Twirlk1l_: nope, do i have to logout? man i'm working on a lot of things?10:24
vedu_apt-mirror -c /etc/apt/mirror.list @bekks10:24
k1l_Twirl: you can source the .bashrc10:24
Twirlk1l_: how?10:24
k1l_Twirl: but without the changes wont take affect10:24
k1l_"source .bashrc"10:25
Twirldo i have to logout?10:25
bekksvedu_: can you pastebin /etc/apt/mirror.list pleasE?10:25
Twirllets get it over with10:25
Twirlbrb if it doesn't work10:26
MarijnI just ran into a problem on my old iMac running ubuntu 16.04. Whenever i try to install something through apt, it give me this: http://pastebin.com/CggrR0Pt. So I run sudo apt -f install, which returns this: http://pastebin.com/Ku9aEMbX.10:26
vedu_@bekks , this is my mirro.list http://pastebin.com/rtTEELP010:27
Twirldidn't work10:27
k1l_Twirl: what exactly doesnt work?10:28
k1l_Twirl: is the path included? test what echos path. do you get an error?10:28
Twirli need to be able to use mongod command10:29
bekksvedu_: And whats the new deb line in your sources.list?10:29
Twirlk1l_: it says "mongodb is not installed install it by apt-get install mongodb-server"10:29
k1l_Twirl: is it working with fullpath? why dont you install the ubuntu package at all?10:29
soLucienhi guys ! I'm looking for a nice way of doing this : i have a smb share that i am mounting to /var/code/my-project-name . i want to sync the file content of this with the folder /var/www/my-project-name10:29
Twirlk1l_: i'm manually installing it, it says to create a ~/.bashrc file with export PATH=<mongodb-install-directory>/bin:$PATH10:29
soLucienwhat is the best way/tool that i can use in order to acheive this ?10:30
Twirlk1l_: because it's old, i need this one10:30
bekkssoLucien: you will lose file permissions, since smb does not support linux file permissions.10:30
soLucienno problem10:30
k1l_Twirl: does it work with fullpath?10:30
bekkssoLucien: And do you want unidirectional or bidirectional sync?10:30
soLucieni want 777 permission in /var/www/my-project-name10:30
Marijnuse rsync10:31
soLucienfrom smb to the target10:31
bekkssoLucien: use rsync10:31
soLucienwithout mirroring10:31
vedu_@bekks , this is my only entry in sources.list deb http://<IP>/ precise main10:31
Twirloh i think the path was wrong10:31
Twirllet me check again10:31
soLucieni don't want extra files in /var/www/my-proj to be removed10:31
soLucien(since a cache may be generated at runtime)10:32
bekksvedu_: shouldnt it be deb http://<IP>/ubuntu/ precise main ?10:32
vedu_@bekks i have nginx running for this . http://pastebin.com/BCtYitki is my nginx conf for this10:33
bekksvedu_: ah ok.10:34
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Twirlk1l_: alright, it worked10:34
Twirlwrong path, ty10:34
soLuciencan rsync do this : sync files from folderA to folderB . If a file in FolderA is not present in folderB, copy it . if a file is present, mirror content10:35
vedu_@bekks , my mistake http://pastebin.com/KZzPnQ5N is my sources.list file10:35
soLucienif a file in folderB exists but does not exist in folderA, don't do anything10:35
soLucienis that unidirectional sync ?10:36
samehhello all10:36
Twirlk1l_: man every time i logged out  now i have a bunch of running background things using my ports10:37
tachikomassoLucien: You can do it in rsync.10:37
Twirlk1l_: do I have to reboot? wtf man10:37
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k1l_Twirl: what? i dont know what this got to do with the changes to path.10:39
Twirlk1l_: no it's tmux10:39
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Twirli had a couple of node servers running from it and it did't kill the sessions when logging out10:40
Twirland "tmux" command starts a new session (what a nice useful feature)10:40
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Twirli hate that shit10:40
k1l_keep the language family friendly please.10:41
tachikomasTwirl, use screen ?10:41
tachikomasCreate a screen with your tmux set by node. And attach the screen every time you need it ?10:42
Twirlalright, nvm it's just tmux attach this silly people made it so that tmux spanws new windows like crazy, i don't like it10:42
Twirlanyways ty for the help10:42
MaxFrameswhen will 16.04.01 lts be released via software updates to 14.04 lts users?10:43
tachikomas1 week.10:43
soLuciennow that i'm looking at rsync, i have to understand the meaning of hard link10:45
soLucienand soft link10:45
k1l_!ltsupgrade | MaxFrames10:46
ubottuMaxFrames: The automatic LTS upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04 was scheduled when 16.04.1 LTS was released on July 21st, but has been postponed for one week due to final bug testing.10:46
mcphailsoLucien: shall we use a library analogy?10:46
soLucienso, please correct me if i am wrong : a hard link is a pointer to a physical location on a hard drive10:46
k1l_MaxFrames: if you cant wait you could do the developer upgrade now on own risk10:46
MaxFramesI'll wait, thanks10:46
soLucienmcphail if you could to that, it would be great10:46
mcphailsoLucien: Imagine "War and Peace" on shelf A2 in a library10:47
mcphailsoLucien: the library index card for "War" says "A2". this is a hard link10:47
tzenrickAnyone good with selinux permissions? I'm trying to delete a 0 byte file from a disk image. My selinux has never been enabled, and i've tried mounting the image with "-o acl" and "-o noacl." Still can't delete file. Tried "setfacl -x security.selinux," got an "Invalid Argument."10:47
mcphailsoLucien: you could add another hard link: an entry for "Peace" could also point to shelf A210:48
mcphailsoLucien: You could remove the index entry for "War", and the "Peace" link would still point to the right place10:49
Ben64such a confusing way to explain that10:50
soLucieni got that10:50
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bekksHi guys10:51
mcphailsoLucien: OK, a soft/symlink is different. Imagine "War" still points to shelf A210:51
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bekksI havent seen updates on 16.04 for quite some time - is it only me or is it a systemic issue?10:51
mcphailNow we add a reference for "Peace" which points to shelf A3. On shelf A3 is a piece of paper which says "See War"10:52
Ben64soLucien: a hard link is the same as a normal file, you can't tell them apart. it's like copying, but uses the same physical space on the hard drive.10:52
Ben64soLucien: a symbolic link is just pointing to a file10:53
mcphailWe look up "Peace" in the reference, see the piece of paper on A3, look up "War" and find the correct book on A210:53
mcphailsoLucien: so, what happens now if "War" is remnoved from the index?10:53
soLuciensymlinc points to nothing?10:54
mariooliveirahi  when i use an isntaller apt-get upgrade- all pacages goes to /var/cache/apt/archives/...  how long this cache last? i need to save all packages to an external drive10:54
mcphailsoLucien: indeed. You get a dangling link10:54
mcphailsoLucien: a hard link points to the resource. A symlink points to a pointer to the resource10:54
soLucieni could have symlinked the resource directly, couldn't i ?10:55
ANJ7I'm using a lenovo laptop, and the problem is that the color I see in my laptop is totally different when compared to other devices10:55
soLucienor does creating a symlink imply the creation of a hard link ?10:56
soLucienthe paper could have said "shelf A2"10:56
soLucienin this analogy10:56
ANJ7for example I see #D1DBBD as gray, but in other devices it's pale yellow in coor10:56
mcphailsoLucien: the librarian doesn't allow that ;)10:57
Ben64soLucien: the analogy is flawed10:57
ANJ7How can I resolve this, I'm a web designer need to play with colors10:57
mcphailBen64: indeed, but it fits in my brain10:57
Ben64ANJ7: sounds more like a hardware issue than an ubuntu issue10:57
mariooliveirahow temporary is apt-get  cache with  packages downloaded?10:57
soLucieni got the point from both explanations, and it was similar to what i understood10:58
ANJ7Ben64: ohh10:58
soLucieni am sure there are some subtilities that i still don't understand10:58
ANJ7my display is 1920x108010:58
mcphailsoLucien: the advantage of a symlink is it can point to a filesystem on another disk or partitioin. The disadvantage is it only points to an index, which could have been renamed or removed10:58
soLucieni see10:59
soLucienwell my situation: the files are physically on . i want to copy them to /opt/code/my-project11:00
Guest22630Hi i really need some help with my AMD Driver setup on my Ubuntu 16.04. I installed the driver from AMD's page support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMD-Radeon-GPU-PRO-Linux-Beta-Driver%E2%80%93Release-Notes.aspx and rebooted, no issues aside the screen resolution at first. But when i Login, the desktop icons kept flickering, i can't show the taskbar which was usually hidden, right clicking on desktop works but del11:00
Guest22630ayed. after few mins stopped flickering and then i was left with slow computer but managed to open/view a folder. What can i do? PLEASE HELP!11:00
Guest22630i can provide a bitcoin donation optional11:00
soLucienand i don't want to use symlinks11:00
soLucieni want the physical thing11:00
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bekkssoLucien: So use rsync.11:00
soLucienyes, rsync has tha arguments --links --hard-links --copy-links11:01
vedu_@bekks , should i re-create the apt-mirror11:01
soLucieni don't want any links . should i avoid any of these parameters ?11:01
bekksvedu_: I'd just use apt-cacher-ng instead, I strongly doubt you need the full blown mirror.11:01
bekkssoLucien: rsync -av source target11:02
bekkssoLucien: err: rsync -av --delete source target11:02
vedu_@bekks , ok let me try apt-cacher-ng11:03
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_geohello, i try to connect to my VPS dovecot server, and it keeps replying  Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused11:05
_geo, and Connection closed by foreign host.11:05
_geo , even when i connect from within the server or remotely , its configured only to listen [::] should i change that?11:05
soLucienanother one : does rsync poll the filesystem in search of updates ?11:05
Ben64rsync copies when you tell it to copy11:06
Lynx_Hi all! I'm trying to install python-pygraphviz. It needs graphviz and libcgraph5 as dependencies. However, when I use apt-get to install libcgraph5 graphviz is uninstalled. How do I keep both?11:06
soLucieni want something that tracks changes as well11:06
bekkssoLucien: rsync does not poll at all.11:06
bekkssoLucien: Run rsync regularly, done.11:06
mcphailsoLucien: you'd need something like a cron job or inotify for that11:06
soLucienthen i can't use  it .. the point is to keep 2 folders in sync11:06
bekkssoLucien: Use a cron job.11:07
mcphailor incron11:07
|avalon|even bash script could do the task...11:08
bekksNo bash script needed :)11:08
|avalon|idk, cron executes every minute afaik11:08
hades|2why i cant find from http://packages.ubuntu.com/vivid/ ?11:08
bekks|avalon|: thats not correct.11:08
|avalon|with bash script he could execute it every second (1s)11:09
Ben64why would you want to run rsync every second, that would blow up11:09
mcphail|avalon|: what a waste of resources!11:09
bekks|avalon|: which is even more nonsense for syncing more than one file.11:09
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mcphail|avalon|: incron would trigger the script on any filesystem event. Much mor practical11:09
soLucienbecause it's a vagrant box and i am developing on it11:09
Guest22630Hi i really need some help with my AMD Driver setup on my Ubuntu 16.04. I installed the driver from AMD's page support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMD-Radeon-GPU-PRO-Linux-Beta-Driver%E2%80%93Release-Notes.aspx and rebooted, no issues aside the screen resolution at first. But when i Login, the desktop icons kept flickering, i can't show the taskbar which was usually hidden, right clicking on desktop works but del11:10
Guest22630ayed. after few mins stopped flickering and then i was left with slow computer but managed to open/view a folder. What can i do? PLEASE HELP!11:10
bekkssoLucien: So it basically doesnt matter if your copy is five minutes old.11:10
|avalon|i'll look that closer.... incron, you say11:10
soLucieni am developing the code on the host, hit ctrl+s11:10
soLucieni want the ubuntu VM to get the changes11:10
soLucienand copy them to /var/www/my-project11:10
soLucienwhere nginx is hosting the site11:10
Ben64why even bother copying? just host the source folder?11:10
bekkssoLucien: So either use incron or use a revision control system.11:10
soLucienBen64 because smb is unreliable11:11
|avalon|soLucien, this could be the solution also: http://php.net/manual/en/book.fam.php11:11
bekkssoLucien: Then dont use smb at all.11:11
bekks|avalon|: neithet fam nor php are a solution at that point :)11:11
|avalon|and with system(); you could execute anything, including rsync11:12
Ben64not a smb problem11:12
bekkssoLucien: Mount the smb chare, not using that gnome vfs crap.11:12
bekks*share, sorry, I need some more coffee :)11:12
soLucienyeah me too11:12
soLucieni don't know .. it is the way Vagrant does stuff .. i just tell it sync c:\code\my-project /opt/code/projectfiles and it does so11:13
bekkssoLucien: using gnome vfs is not the vagrant way. It was your solution to mount stuff using gnome vfs.11:14
mcphailsoLucien: can the host system directly see the guest filesystem?11:14
|avalon|bekks, i dont know why... he needs accurate updateas as it can be. every second is fine if he needs it and less than that... idk, sounds a little weird to me11:15
|avalon|so... where you see problem with fam, bekks ?11:15
soLucienbekks i swear i didn't use anything else than Vagrant to do the sharing setup11:15
soLucienmcphail no the host is windows11:16
soLucienguest is ubuntu 16.0411:16
mcphailsoLucien: so, you wouldn't be able to use incron, then11:17
mcphail(if you're developing on the host and deploying to the guest)11:18
soLucieni want the guest to poll the folder, and copy newer files to /var/www11:18
soLuciensmb is 2-way and i think that's where the problems come from11:19
mcphailsoLucien: aah - so your host is _already_ syncing files with /opt/code/projectfiles (on the guest) automatically?11:19
soLucieni don't want any of the files on the guest back to the host .. just want changes to the code i write on the host to propagate reliably to /var/www/my-site on the guest11:20
soLucienexactly mcphail11:20
soLucienbut it is not reliable11:20
soLucienand it's 2-way by default11:20
soLucieni don't care about the cache it creates. tmp files, logs .. all that11:20
soLucienand it is a extra effort on the guest behalf to continuously update this SMB share11:21
mcphailsoLucien: and is there a reason you don't want to change your web documentroot to /opt/code/projectfiles, or symlink that directory from /var/www/my-site?11:21
* mcphail is feeling a bit lost now11:22
soLucienmcphail yes there is . if i set the web documentroot to /opt/code11:22
AscavasaionI created a script vnc.sh  How do I get it to start each time I start the pi so I can run the Pi without a monitor and it will be ready to receive VBNC connections from external computers?11:22
soLucienwhen i start up the application, it creates a docroot/cache folder11:22
soLucienwhere it saves a lot of crap11:22
mcphailsoLucien: ok, and you don't want that stuff synced back to windows?11:23
soLucienthe SMB sync is 2-way , so i get all those files back11:23
soLucienyes i don't care about those files11:23
soLucienand also, it is quite cpu intensive11:23
soLucienanother issue is that the docroot would physically be on . that would make my site extremely slow11:24
bekkssoLucien: so use incron11:25
Bomber4Chatsanyone with experience with retina / HiDPI displays in Linux?11:27
soLucienthanks for the advice ! Cheers11:27
* mcphail is not sure if incron works on samba shares, but expects he will soon find out11:28
Bomber4ChatsI'm not sure which engine is problematic, but some of my apps I'm running are not properly scaling their icons11:28
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soLucienbekks this is the way Vagrant mounts smb folders on Linux .. i don't know if it's the gnome way or not , but if it is deprecated , please tell me so that i can create a issue https://github.com/mitchellh/vagrant/blob/b98c134a49382ed079f4b0d91b669df06e79d705/plugins/guests/linux/cap/mount_smb_shared_folder.rb#L3611:32
bekkssoLucien: if you want to mount and share stuff, mount and share stuff, dont use vagrant for mounting and sharing :)11:33
ryclikBomber4Chats, I'm not super familiar with what retina really implies, but assuming its just a super high resolution..11:33
Bomber4Chats192 dpi11:33
tachikomasBomber4Chats: I use a 15' RetinaMac with ubuntu without any problem.11:34
Bomber4Chats3840 * 216011:34
ryclikonly some applications will scale, while others will not. I think its a gnome thing in particular so only gtk apps? Not 100% sure11:34
Bomber4Chatstachikomas: what screen size do you have?11:34
tachikomasRetina 15'411:34
cfhowlettnot all apps are optimized for HD displays11:34
Bomber4Chatsno, I meant display in inches11:34
mcphailsoLucien: from a bit of Googling, I think inotify isn't going to work for your issue. You might need to resort to polling11:35
soLucienbekks i want to develop symfony applications in my organization . i own a windows PC. some people use mac, others use ubuntu11:35
Bomber4Chatstachikomas: is there any qt5 based app you are using?.11:35
tachikomaslet me check11:35
soLucienthe only one that can bridge the gap is vagrant with puppet11:35
bekkssoLucien: So use a revision control system.11:35
tachikomastransmission-qt for exemple, run without problem11:36
soLucienthat's fine, but Vagrant is for development and deployment11:36
Bomber4Chatsryclik: it might be gnome too11:36
tachikomasFilezilla same.11:36
soLucienmcphail cron every second is filne11:36
soLucienfine for me11:36
bekkssoLucien: you need to split up your issue into "manage my code" and "deploy my code". An RCS is for managing your code, vagrant is for deploying your code.11:36
Bomber4Chatsbiggest issue when in 3840 * 2160 is icon sizing and some tabs are too small (can't see all of the text)11:36
Bomber4Chatshmm, right11:37
Bomber4Chatstransmission is OK11:37
soLucienbekks i am creating a deployment now. deploy for dev11:37
soLucienin production i will pull-deploy from git11:37
bekkssoLucien: And your questions are about managing your code.11:37
Bomber4Chatsso maybe it really is gtk being "I'm not going to scale" etc.11:37
Bomber4Chatswhat about VLC?11:37
ryclikBomber4Chats, i use cinnamon personally, and i know it has options for it. But the only experience I've had with scaling is just before I disabled it. I think I was using a 1080p tv at the time, but i noticed only half of the apps scaled.11:37
soLucienno .. my question is : how to deploy code from a windows host to a ubuntu guest every second11:37
cfhowlettBomber4Chats, best advice: install it and test for yourself11:37
bekkssoLucien: Use an RCS.11:38
soLucienthat's what it boils down to11:38
tachikomasVLC run without problem too.11:38
Bomber4Chatscfhowlett: I tested, want my results?11:38
tachikomasI have no issue with my resolution.11:38
b3h3m0thI opted for "manual package selection" during installation of Ubuntu server 16.04 but there was no aptitude UI that popped up11:38
Bomber4Chatstachikomas: really? not too small?11:38
ryclikBomber4Chats, you could bump down the resolution on the screen, but it might not look so pretty11:38
Bomber4Chatswell, you said you used less than 384011:38
Bomber4Chatsmaybe I should do the same11:38
soLucieni use git11:38
cfhowlettb3h3m0th, server.  no gui.11:38
bekkssoLucien: It boils down to not using differen system design for dev and production. if you use git in your production, use git in your dev environment, too.11:38
b3h3m0thUI != GUI11:38
bekkssoLucien: If you are using git, you know that not a system for realtime replication.11:39
b3h3m0ththere was no aptitude installation checklist provided11:39
b3h3m0thI was expecting one11:39
cfhowlettb3h3m0th, it will be in your logs11:39
b3h3m0thwhat does "manual package selection" option actually do ?11:40
bekksb3h3m0th: It allows you to manually select packages.11:40
b3h3m0thIs it supposed to ask me what packages to be installed during the installation process ?11:40
b3h3m0ththe installation is complete now and system rebooted to the installed OS11:40
b3h3m0thThere was no step where it asked me11:41
b3h3m0thcan I run that option now ?11:41
bekksb3h3m0th: So run apt for installing the packages desired.11:41
b3h3m0thI want to get the checklist11:41
b3h3m0ththat was supposed to be showed11:41
bekksb3h3m0th: Which checklistß11:41
bekksThere is no checklist supposed to be shown.11:41
b3h3m0th"manual package selection"11:42
bekksb3h3m0th: That does not mean there is a checklist to be shown.11:42
b3h3m0thManually select packages: Executes aptitude allowing you to individually select packages.11:42
bekksb3h3m0th: It means you can tell the installer what you want to install. It does not mean the installer asks you.11:42
cfhowlettb3h3m0th, please continue this discussion in #ubuntu-server11:42
ubottuUbuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is !Xenial (Xenial Xerus 16.04.1) - More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition - Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide - Support in #ubuntu-server11:42
b3h3m0thit said aptitude "will be executed"11:43
bekksb3h3m0th: And since the system is already installed - why dont you run apt or aptitude now?11:43
b3h3m0thwell, I don't know what are the packages I would need11:43
bekksb3h3m0th: then how would that checklist help you?11:43
Bomber4ChatsI can't go lower than 3840 X 2800 XD11:46
Bomber4ChatsIt looks terrible11:46
Bomber4ChatsI'll just have to keep my eye out for updates and available hacks11:46
Bomber4Chatsat least I tried...11:46
ryclikI was gonna say. Can't? Or don't want to? :P11:46
Bomber4ChatsMy eyes tear up from the pixelation of 1900 x 120011:47
rycliki've got a 15 1080 display on my laptop. I think it looks wonderful :)11:48
Bomber4ChatsI may have meddled a lot with the resolution and settings so it's hard for me to get a fix on 1900 working well11:48
Bomber4Chats1080 is fine11:48
Bomber4ChatsI'm working on 4K XD11:48
ryclikbut i recently upgraded from a 1366x768 sooo11:48
Bomber4Chatsdoes there exist any group that deals with HiDPI development in Linux?11:49
Bomber4Chatsanybody knows?11:49
warbaque1080 or "fullhd" is the worst thing that have happened to pc displays11:49
* ryclik shrugs11:50
Bomber4Chatswarbaque: ?11:50
warbaque1920x1200 was superior for almost every use case11:50
Bomber4Chatswell, yeah, for the given 15" we used11:51
Bomber4Chatsand still use11:51
Bomber4Chatsbut now screens (desktops) are bumping up to 24", 27" and even 32"11:51
ryclikall the better to rot our brains with :D11:52
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lucido-cwlhow can I disable a service startup on boot?12:08
lucido-cwlin the olden times it was initrd something something12:09
lucido-cwlor rc. something12:09
|avalon|systemctl (i guess)12:09
rycliklucido-cwl, "systemctl disable [service]"12:10
|avalon|systemctl disable <systemd>12:10
|avalon|yeah, service12:10
|avalon|or something ;)12:10
|avalon|i did not mean literally <systemd>, apologies if misunterstood12:12
rycliki think the actual service command still works12:13
ryclikprobably just symlinked to systemctl now though12:13
|avalon|possible, but i guess what you wrote is correct also12:14
|avalon|as they say in perl, there is more than one way to do ... something12:14
ryclikoh perl :p12:15
|avalon|perl and libxml2, my two favorite nightmares12:15
|avalon|though i prefer.. "prefer" libxml212:15
rycliki can't say i've ever had to work with libxml212:16
|avalon|neither me... successfully12:18
|avalon|i used it only like dependancy for some other applications that use it12:18
Guest22630Hi i really need some help with my AMD Driver setup on my Ubuntu 16.04. I installed the driver from AMD's page support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMD-Radeon-GPU-PRO-Linux-Beta-Driver%E2%80%93Release-Notes.aspx and rebooted, no issues aside the screen resolution at first. But when i Login, the desktop icons kept flickering, i can't show the taskbar which was usually hidden, right clicking on desktop works but del12:19
Guest22630ayed. after few mins stopped flickering and then i was left with slow computer but managed to open/view a folder. What can i do? PLEASE HELP!12:19
lucido-cwl|avalon|, systemctl is complaining about missing stuff: http://paste.ubuntu.com/20996813/12:20
|avalon|let's see...12:21
|avalon|did you try with service command, like ryclik suggested?12:27
rycliklooks like there might be an error in the init file or something12:27
ryclikis it installed from the official repos or manually? might check /etc/init.d/jira12:27
zharHi, how do I set the mouse speed in ubuntu 16.04?12:28
uruk7how is the last stabe version of ubuntu?12:30
uruk7how is the last stable version of ubuntu?12:30
k1l_uruk7: good12:30
uruk7which is the latest stable version of ubuntu?12:31
BluesKajHowdy folks12:32
phimichello all12:32
YankDownUnderuruk7: There's a stable version of Ubuntu? OMG...12:33
mcphail!16.04 | uruk712:33
ubottuuruk7: Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (Xenial Xerus) is the current release of Ubuntu. Download at http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Read the release notes at http://ubottu.com/y/xenial12:33
phimici have a fresh 16.04 installation, my boot stuck at setvtrgb.service12:33
phimichow can i fix that?12:33
YankDownUnderphimic: Are you able to get to the tty1 console? (CTL+ALT+F1)12:34
phimicYankDownUnder: yes but i only get "lvmetad is not active yes, using direct activation during sysinit"12:36
phimicYankDownUnder: and /dev/mapper/system-rootfs: clean xxx/xxxx files xxx/xxx blocks12:36
MindSparkhey, which version is newer? 1.1.12-32-g4761b20-1+deb.sury.org~xenial+4 or 1.1.2-96-ge77f981+1.1.2+-3+deb.sury.org~xenial+1 ?12:36
YankDownUnderphimic: During the installation, did you allow for updates and/or drivers?12:36
MindSpark1.1.12 or 1.1.2 ?12:36
phimicYankDownUnder: yes12:37
ioriaphimic, server ?12:38
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YankDownUnderphimic: Read this mate: http://askubuntu.com/questions/769863/lvmetad-is-not-active-yet-using-direct-activation-during-sysinit12:38
andrewhello is anyone there12:39
Ian_CorneWhen i'm trying to update my server from 14.04 to 16.04.1, it says, no new release found12:39
phimicYankDownUnder: thank you very much i will take a look at this guide12:39
SaveWaterDrinkCoYo! I know most of you guys are probably volunteers but http://community.ubuntu.com/contribute/support/irc/ has the wrong link since freenode changed it from irc.freenode.net to webchat.freenode.net12:39
Ian_Corneanyone know how come?12:39
cfhowlettandrew it's a support channel.  ask no questions, get no answers.12:39
cfhowlettIan_Corne, correct.  16.04.1 delayed an extra week for final bug testing12:40
YankDownUnderphimic: The answer - hopefully - to your issue is at the bottom...if you don't want to read through it all...12:40
Ian_CorneThank you12:40
BluesKajIan_Corne, look in update manager and enable LTS releases only12:40
cfhowlettHappy2help! Ian_Corne12:40
BluesKajcfhowlett, still delayed ?12:41
Ian_CorneBluesKaj: it's my server, there's no update manager :)12:41
cfhowlettBluesKaj, for direct upgrade, yeah. so I understand12:41
ubottuThe automatic LTS upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04 was scheduled when 16.04.1 LTS was released on July 21st, but has been postponed for one week due to final bug testing.12:41
SaveWaterDrinkCoI want to use Linux as a programming OS. The logic step for me is to dualboot but my friend who's WAY better at computers than myself says to use a VirtualBox. Anyone know which I should do?12:42
BluesKajok Ian_Corne sorry, then sudo do-release-upgrade -d12:42
cfhowlettSaveWaterDrinkCo, your machine, your choice.12:42
Ian_CorneYeah, I know, but I'll wait for those final bug tested :)12:42
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BluesKajIan_Corne, probly wise :-)12:42
YankDownUnderIan_Corne: Just as a good read, if you ain't checked it out already: http://askubuntu.com/questions/769863/lvmetad-is-not-active-yet-using-direct-activation-during-sysinit12:43
SaveWaterDrinkCo... I just realized my name got cut off. Oh well.12:43
YankDownUnderIan_Corne: Oops,sorry, wrong link: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes12:43
SaveWaterDrinkCoAnyways, how much RAM should I give the VM to Ubuntu?12:43
cfhowlettSaveWaterDrinkCo, more is better.  I generally give it half of my system ram12:44
mcphailSaveWaterDrinkCo: 2GB minimum. Much more if possible if using for development12:44
plaziaSaveWaterDrinkCo, doesn't that depend on many factors such as how much total RAM you have available at present and precisely what you intend to develop and how hungry the development/compilation process will be?12:44
SaveWaterDrinkCoMinor games and minor mods at most. Half of my RAM would be 4 gigs.12:45
cfhowlettSaveWaterDrinkCo, ubuntu will run at 4gb.  xubuuntu or lubuntu would run better at  gb12:45
mcphailSaveWaterDrinkCo: if you're developing games, much better to dual boot. Virtual machines and graphics drivers are still messy12:45
SaveWaterDrinkComcphail: I'm talking like GameMaker kind of games. I program as a bit of a hobby.12:46
mcphailSaveWaterDrinkCo: OK, then try a VM first. You can switch to dual boot if you have problems12:47
SaveWaterDrinkCoAlright thanks guys!12:47
phimicYankDownUnder: ok now the boot process get stuck at "Started Set console scheme"12:49
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YankDownUnderphimic: So you've done all the commands at the bottom of that "page" - and it's not resolved anything? You've not been able to to boot into the base system?12:51
rm_i am a korean12:51
rm_I am korean12:52
rm_Where are you guys12:52
Baoanonyyouare from chian?12:52
rm_I am from KOREA12:52
phimicYankDownUnder: i followd12:52
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!12:52
phimicYankDownUnder: i tried GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="nomodeset" and GRUB_TERMINAL_INPUT="console serial" and did a upgrade-grub12:53
rm_Are you Chinese12:53
fox__hi all12:53
Baoanony yes12:53
rm_I love Chinese12:53
phimicYankDownUnder: the last boot messages now are "Reached target OEM configuration" and "Started Set console scheme"12:54
rm_Where are you12:54
YankDownUnderphimic: ...and that gets you to...to what? Are you at a console?12:54
rm_Whice province are you in12:54
phimicYankDownUnder: hmm i use vmware esxi, the virtual console12:54
BaoanonyBeijing, China12:55
k1l_rm_: please stop the talk in here. use #ubuntu-offtopic for chat. this channel is for technical help only. same for Baoanony12:55
rm_capital city12:55
rm_you must be rich12:55
BaoanonyNO !12:56
YankDownUnderphimic: Strange this - um, are you running Ubuntu in Virtualbox, perchance?12:56
phimicYankDownUnder: its a virtual machine on esxi 6.0U1 i can only access this server by the vmware virtual console12:57
YankDownUnderphimic: Ah...VMWare...right oh...I'm looking at an unresolved issue with "Puppet agent"...here's the link: https://tickets.puppetlabs.com/browse/PUP-653612:58
phimicYankDownUnder: puppet agent is installed on a fresh minimal ubuntu installation???12:59
silliGuy i'm not able to set sublimetext3 as default editor in ubuntu16, something strange13:00
sillii 've changed default.list but still nothing13:00
silliany tips ?13:00
YankDownUnderphimic: THAT, I do not know right off the bat - however, that being said, in looking through the "template" used to create the VM, I'm wondering what might be the contents of the template used on your system's setup...and then my question to beg is have YOU looked at the template and has it been checked/tested properly prior to the "installation" of Ubuntu...13:01
phimicYankDownUnder: i deployed no template its a fresh 16.04 installation13:02
YankDownUnderphimic: As far as the parameters for the VM go, is there anything "out of the ordinary" - as per a "PC or server"?13:03
ubuntu186is there anybody?13:06
k1l_ubuntu186: yes. just ask your technical question13:06
ubuntu186i bought an asus r510vx13:06
ubuntu186im trying to install ubuntu13:07
ubuntu186but live usb stucks on splash screen13:07
ubuntu186when i pres f613:07
ubuntu186it says13:08
ubuntu186bug soft lookup cpu #5 stuckt for 22 seconds13:08
CodeCruncherHey guys, just want to ask something. I'm on Ubuntu Gnome 16.04. Sometimes it lags on me. Especially when unlocking the screen shield. Any ideas?13:09
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silliGuys i'm not able to set sublimetext3 as default editor in ubuntu16, i changed gedit to sublime_text in default.list, but nothing changed, any tips ?13:10
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ubuntu186can anybody help me?13:11
ubuntu186with my question13:11
Guest94379I'm use this chat software the first time .13:13
lucidguyOk, WTF, why is there no systray?  I have two apps that rely on it, what am I supposed to do?13:14
lucidguyWith Unity.13:14
CodeCruncherlucidguy: I think apps do have "systray" icons appear in the top in Unity?13:17
lucidguyCodeCruncher: Thunderbird and Pidgin seem to be able to place information there, but it's not acting like systray.13:19
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Guest94379I want to change me nickname,what can I do ?13:25
Tin_manGuest94379, just type /nick nameyouwant13:27
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jackson_CXJoh  thankyou!13:28
stayKlassyHello. I installed windows 10 on my laptop. I chose 'something else' under the installation type on ubuntu installer, then created 3 new partitions; an / one, a home one and a swap one while installing ubuntu and chose as 'Device for boot loader installation' 'Windows boot manager'. When I boot up my computer, it boots up windows without letting me choose ubuntu. What am I doign wrong?13:30
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ericx2x_hey guys, i have a laptop that I want to transfer the ubuntu instance to another computer13:33
ericx2x_what do i use to do that transfer?13:33
ericx2x_and how does ubuntu make sure the drivers etc match the new computer>13:34
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ericx2x_i basically want to migrate an entire system to a new machine13:35
ubottuThere are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning13:35
ubottuTo replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can use the !software package "apt-clone" - See also !automate13:36
lucidguyericx2x_: CloneZilla does a pretty good job.13:36
ericx2x_alright, thanks13:37
b3h3m0thI set up home folder encryption on ubuntu server 16.04. Now I want to be able to login as a different user and access my files. How do I do that ?13:37
TurboKrakenIs there a solution for backuping up my machine (software installed and configs) not just data?13:39
TurboKrakenLike clonezilla but without haveing to boot into it?13:40
ikoniaTurboKraken: you can't really image a machine while it's running13:42
ikoniacertainly not from a block level13:42
ikoniathats why clonezilla makes you boot into it13:42
memsethi guy13:46
TurboKrakenikonia: What about backing up system configs or general software settings?13:48
CaffeineAddictI have a new user on Ubuntu that is requesting a GUI for SVN ... they where using RapidSVN but apparently it crashes with SVN 1.7 ... ideas?13:48
bekksCaffeineAddict: eclipse.13:52
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CaffeineAddictbekks: ty13:56
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DArqueBishopTurboKraken: I personally would use Duplicity.14:04
ubottuWays to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/i386/apb.html - See also !cloning14:04
c0nfusekihello? I really need some help. I think I screwed up my DNS settings on my other computer and nothing works14:06
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bekksc0nfuseki: How did you do that and what does "nothing works" mean?14:07
c0nfusekiI cannot use nslookup (it returns with ** server can't find REFUSED14:08
c0nfusekiI was wanting to use some custom DNS, but now i don't care. i just want to reset somehow14:09
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bekksc0nfuseki: You want to reset what? What did you change?14:10
d1rewolfall, I have something launching the "unlock ssh passphrase" GUI on Ubuntu 16.04. I've tried to use sysdig to track down the process (http://pastebin.com/VrWMZsWR) but it just points to dbus-daemon. How can I determine what process is doing this via dbus?14:10
c0nfusekii made adjustment to a few configuration files. resolv.conf.d and another couple14:11
mindfulnesshaving trouble with bootloading...something about archive manager not found14:12
c0nfusekiNeeding help with working out how to restore .conf files so my computer can use the router's DNS again... (I somehow screwed it up)14:15
bekksc0nfuseki: Restore them from your backup, which you've taken before, hopefully.14:15
bekksc0nfuseki: What did you change in which .conf file?14:16
bekksAnd why?14:16
c0nfusekiresolvconf.conf.d networkManager.conf .. and another few when i was following internet instructions to set own DNS (instead of using the router's)14:17
bekksc0nfuseki: And what did you change in there?14:18
c0nfusekinetworkManager.conf; I commented out the dns=dnsmasq14:18
bekksc0nfuseki: So edit that file again and revert the change.14:19
bekksc0nfuseki: Do that for every change you did, in every file you changed.14:19
c0nfusekithanks. but i'll wait for someone who can give me some advice.14:19
bekksc0nfuseki: that was the best advice you will get ;)14:20
c0nfusekipossibly. i hope not, though14:21
bekksGood luck then.14:21
bekksWhile you are waiting, you could start reverting the changes you did.14:21
christanwhere i can learn hacking here ?14:21
bekkschristan: Not on the freenode network.14:22
bekkschristan: Get an axe, talk to your dad to drive to the woods with you, and start hacking, with small trees first.14:22
christanok what ever.14:23
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linuxhello everybody14:27
genii!cn | linux14:28
ubottulinux: 如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw14:28
t3keehey guys, one question for you. Whne you do a new fedora installation it can automagicklly install the os on 2 harddrives, is there a way to do so with ubuntu or do i need to partion the disks my self?14:28
unusedPhD_is it possible to downgrade to kernel 3.19 from 4.2? Looking to do this on a fresh 14.04.4 server install14:29
bekkst3kee: Sure. Just run the installer.14:29
cristian_cI'd like to install a python application from spurces into /opt directory by setup.py14:29
Baoanonyjoin #ubuntu-cn14:29
t3keebekks: ok, and then? i dont see an option letting me select 2 disks14:30
bekkst3kee: You need to select manua partitioning to do so.14:30
t3keebekks: so the answer then is no14:30
cristian_cI've looked for info into documentation but I've not found a method yet, in ubuntu14:30
cristian_cAny ideas?14:30
IamTryinghttp://paste.ubuntu.com/21008826/ - Why apt-get install not working at all please?14:32
bekks!saucy | IamTrying14:32
ubottuIamTrying: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander) was the 19th release of Ubuntu. Support ended on July 17th, 2014. See !eol, !upgrade and http://ubottu.com/y/saucy14:32
bekks!eolupgrade | IamTrying14:32
ubottuIamTrying: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades14:32
bekksIamTrying: you need to eolupgrade or reinstall.14:33
IamTryingbekks: without updates can i not let this app get install? i cant efford the cost to do all those they are using me already 50 times without paying  a single penny.14:34
bekksIamTrying: You system went End of Support back in 2014. Since then, you havent seen any updates.14:34
IamTryingOK :(14:34
soeewhat is the lowlatency version of kernel?14:35
EriC^^IamTrying: is it urgent?14:35
bekksEriC^^: If it would have been urgent, he would have updated his box in the last two years.14:36
mizraimhola que onda14:36
mizraimsoy nuevo en esto14:36
mizraimque distro de ubuntu me recomiendan14:37
EriC^^i mean do you need it urgently to work? or maybe temporarily IamTrying14:37
soee!es mizraim14:37
IamTryingYES - urgently fix it and let them find someone else you know EriC^^14:37
soee!es | mizraim14:37
ubottumizraim: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.14:37
EriC^^IamTrying: can you restate your problem? i just joined14:38
bekksIamTrying: If you'll fix it now, they'll come come back to you next time. On an outdated and dead system.14:38
tommyengstromHey! I have an API for which I can generate clients. The server is actually running the API wrapped in BasicAuth. I thought I would be able to create clients for the wrapped API by prepending a BasicAuthData argument to all the client functions but that didn't work. How do I do it?14:38
bekksEriC^^: He is using Saucy and apt-get refuses to find repos on *.archive.ubuntu.com14:38
ritztechsoooooo i got a weird one .       im seeing /usr/sbin/CROND -n being ran and then another process BUT  theres nothing in root crontab at all14:38
ritztechand its every 5 minutes14:39
IamTryingEriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/21008826/  i get this14:39
bekksritztech: So look at /etc/cron*/14:39
IamTryingbekks: i agree. but i want to leave them after this fix. they have to find someone with more talent in Ubuntu Linux. I am not getting paid for nothing 50 times i gave support14:39
ritztechi did but theres not every 5 min theres a /cron.hourly but its not pulling anything14:40
bekksIamTrying: your options have been told :)14:40
EriC^^IamTrying: why does an upgrade cost you money?14:41
ubottuUbuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander) was the 19th release of Ubuntu. Support ended on July 17th, 2014. See !eol, !upgrade and http://ubottu.com/y/saucy14:41
IamTryingEriC^^: i have only SSH access i cant be onsite and again reconfigure the whole Ubuntu into my custom Kiosk Linux for them.14:41
EriC^^IamTrying: you can't upgrade to 14.04 with sudo do-release-upgrade ?14:41
EriC^^it will take only one jump 13.10 -> 14.0414:42
bekksIamTrying: It is your only option.14:42
IamTryingEriC^^: i made there Linux completely like Android (customised Ubuntu from boot till ...), if i now do that upgrade it will break all my configuration and i have to do all from begin, which they do not care14:42
IamTryingbekks: i understand i should upgrade but i cant trust me.14:43
Lynx_I'm connected to my ubuntu box via x2go, and in the network manager things like "create new wireless network" or "edit connections" are greyed out. Is this because I connect via x2go? Or do I need to activate sudo somehow?14:43
bekksIamTrying: You have to, trust us.14:43
bekksIamTrying: Your problem cannot be solved without upgrading.14:43
IamTryingOK - then i let them suffer, and find somone else.14:43
mizraimdonde podre estar en un canal en español14:45
mizraimpues en ubuntu-es nadie contesta14:45
ubottuEn la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.14:46
Kyokui have a bootable 16.04 usb key and i want to install it properly to another usb key, how do i make sure i don't wipe the hard drives?14:47
EriC^^Kyoku: choose Something else in the installer and partition yourself14:48
bekksKyoku: Unplug the hard drives.14:48
EriC^^Kyoku: or just unplug the hdd14:48
Kyokui can't unplug them14:48
Kyokuit's a laptop14:48
bekksOf course you can.14:49
EriC^^sure you can14:49
bekksYou need to open some screws ans remove it.14:49
Kyokuso does it install on the device that i set in 'device for boot loader installation' ?14:49
EriC^^Kyoku: that's just for the bootloader, you need to partition and choose the mountpoints and what to format14:50
Kyokuhmm, so i have no choice but to remove the hard drives?14:50
EriC^^Kyoku: if you choose the right drive to partition it isn't a problem14:50
EriC^^just don't touch the hdd's whatsoever14:51
Kyokui know which drive it is, it's /dev/sdd14:51
EriC^^so partition it14:51
SchrodingersScatKyoku: you may be able to do this in virtualbox, if you give it usb passthrough14:51
skinuxIs there any way to install Ubuntu without having to first burn it to DVD?14:51
bekks!usb | skinux14:51
ubottuskinux: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent14:51
skinuxMy laptop went out, so I'm on an old machine, it doesn't have a burner drive, but I need to wipe it and put Ubuntu onto it.14:52
SchrodingersScatskinux: you can use a liveUSB, network boot, etc.  If you have grub already then you can even load the iso off the hdd14:52
bekksskinux: So read the links given.14:52
skinuxNah, I can't use Flash drive, system doesn't support it.14:52
bekksskinux: Then network boot is your only chance most likely.14:53
Kyokuok so i created new partition, now it says 'free space' under it, so i just select the free space and click 'install now' ?14:53
SchrodingersScatskinux: if you can get someone to burn you a copy of 'plop' then it can give the computer the ability to usb boot14:53
EriC^^Kyoku: no, you need to create root partition, ext4 mountpoint "/"14:53
EriC^^Kyoku: also swap if you want that, and if it's a uefi system you need an efi partition too about 300mb14:53
skinuxNah. I'll just have to wait for my brother to burn me Ubuntu.14:54
Kyokudo i need a swap?14:54
EriC^^Kyoku: do you want hibernation?14:54
EriC^^how much ram do you have?14:55
EriC^^no need for swap14:55
Kyokuok, i also need to encrypt the entire key14:56
EriC^^ah that's tricky14:56
EriC^^hdd removal time14:56
EriC^^remove the hdd's and choose the option to encrypt in the previous screen14:56
daniel_you like ubuntu14:59
Lynx_In the wirless tab of the Network settings, the Option "use as hotspot" is greyed out. How can I activate that?14:59
gezashey everybody15:08
lucidguyI don't understand how systemtray icons have been disabled, apps require them, what am I supposed to do?15:08
gezasim new to terminal irc :D15:10
gezasany help?15:10
gezasi use weechat15:10
gezasdont even know how to navigate...15:10
Kyokuwell getting the drives out was easier than i thought15:15
illegalprimegezas: what irc client are you using?15:15
Xmrdhi bro i  have problem running  OpenBTS15:16
EriC^^Kyoku: yup15:16
XmrdStarting the system...15:16
XmrdALERT 3074422528 21:00:56.6 TRXManager.cpp:434:powerOff: POWEROFF failed with status -115:16
XmrdEMERG 3073907520 21:00:56.7 OpenBTS.cpp:151:startTransceiver: cannot find ./transceiver15:16
XmrdEMERG 3073907520 21:00:56.7 OpenBTS.cpp:156:startTransceiver: Transceiver quit with status 256. Exitin15:16
Kyokuso i just select erase disk and install and check encryption? what about use LVM?15:18
fxpesterhi all, preseed question, I set password for root but after installation root password in /etc/shadow is clear - where to dig ?15:19
fxpesterI can see in preseed logs that usermod with password change is invoked15:20
Kyokuhmm, it's automatically creating a swap when i do encryption15:22
fxpesterfound it, it was just isn`t clear15:22
Kyokuany way to stop it?15:22
holmserQuestion for all you smart people.  When I install ubuntu 14.04 desktop my ethernet device comes up as eth0.  When I install from the server it comes up as p1p315:23
holmserWhat could be different in the install that would cause this?15:23
geniifxpester: Check the example preseed file here under the section titled "Account Setup" and the section just below that titled "Root password,either in clear text"  https://www.debian.org/releases/squeeze/example-preseed.txt15:23
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bekksholmser: Different init system.15:23
holmserfor 14.04 server and desktop?15:24
holmserit's using upstart vs systemd?15:24
fxpestergenii: it will not working without clear activation of root account, just solved this, thx15:24
bekksholmser: I guess. But basically the naming of the interfaces is irrelevant :)15:25
holmsernot if you have an application that hard codes it15:25
FManTropyxno, 14 has Upstart, 16 switched to systemd15:25
koffeinfriedhofyou may rename it in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules. but why hardcoding this? could be wireless as well?15:26
ritztechi cant seem to find how CROND starts a process when i dont have it in cron15:27
bekksholmser: 3rd party proprietary software?15:27
ritztechi even restarted crond15:27
bekksritztech: check the various cron related directories in /etc/15:27
ritztechchecked every user/ root / /etc/cron.d/XX15:28
ritztecheven cron.log15:28
ritztechwell /var/log/cron but nothing15:28
ritztechbut if i while true; ps -ef ; sleep 1 ; done at like every 5 minutes it triggers15:29
ritztechand i see the PPID as CROND15:29
bekksritztech: what about /etc/cron.daily /etc/cron.hourly and /etc/cron.monthly ?15:29
ritztechyea looked through all of them15:29
ritztechim like wtf mate lol15:30
bekksritztech: And whats the issue now?15:30
koffeinfriedhofritztech: perhaps a systemd.timer?15:30
ritztechi have a script running every 5 minutes15:30
bekksritztech: that cron runs and checks wether there is something to execute?15:30
ritztechi didnt check systemd.timer15:30
ritztechyea so i have script that goes out and pulls data every 5 minutes15:32
ritztechbut i need to stop it because i need to control it differently because i have issues) NOW i know i could technially just change the script name but im trying to see where these are executed from15:33
ritztechsystemctl --user list-timers  ———— 0 timers listed.15:37
koffeinfriedhofPerhaps it is triggered from another process?15:38
koffeinfriedhofritztech or have a look at: sudo ls -lha /var/spool/cron/crontabs/15:40
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Kyokuis dd good enough to create an image of an encrypted usb installation?15:44
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SchrodingersScatKyoku: should be, it would be identical afaik15:47
rypervencheKyoku: You may have to update grub and your initramfs, but maybe not.15:48
User85413215hi all... someone could helps me about ORANGE PI? No HDMI video to appears...15:48
AL-F4if you are using ubuntu than use 'disks' gui app for the same.15:51
geniiUser85413215: Although a slow channel, you may find more appropriate help in #ubuntu-arm if you are patient15:52
GuiriIs there a way to automatically configure Ubuntu installation on multiple laptops, like enforcing full disk encryption and using winbind to tie logins to a domain controller?15:54
Kyokumamamia encrypted usb install is slow15:55
SchrodingersScatusb is normally slow in itself15:55
DArqueBishopGuiri, you could use automated installs, and use puppet to enforce configurations.15:55
DArqueBishopGuiri: https://help.ubuntu.com/16.04/installation-guide/i386/ch04s06.html15:56
awerHi, is the 'ssl2' option deprecated when using 'openssl' from the terminal?15:58
Kyokuhas anyone used Dislocker for using bitlocker drives?15:58
aweralways throws an error15:58
awertls works fine15:58
aweropenssl s_client -connect slashdot.org:443 -ssl215:59
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venterany help to boot Dual-boot both Ubuntu and Mac OS , the problem I have is that i cant boot any more to Mac after using Ubuntu?16:06
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ubuntuxdcc send list16:11
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ankitubuntu 16.04 splash screen missing16:13
dgarstangAnyone encountered this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/cloud-init/+bug/1404060 ? cloud-init fails to parse sshd_config when the authorized_keys file has multiple files16:17
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1404060 in cloud-init "SSH keys not updated correctly when sshd_config "AuthorizedKeysFile" contains multiple values" [Undecided,New]16:17
ankitubuntu 16.04 splash screen missing any help16:17
User85413215hi all... someone could helps me about ORANGE PI? No HDMI video to appears...16:19
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OrangePi-Userhi all... someone could helps me about ORANGE PI? No HDMI video to appears...16:23
Apachezso anyone else than me who have noticed that you return to a black screen and only mousepointer is visible on ubuntu 16.04 with intel nuc D54250WYK (HD5000) graphics?16:23
ankitubuntu 16.04 splash screen missing any help16:26
ankitany idea16:26
tsimonq2so I'm having a conversation and I need to know what question to ask next: https://twitter.com/Nalle999/status/75797647055153971316:32
tsimonq2could someone give me a hand?16:32
ankitubuntu 16.04 splash screen missing any help16:33
InnerCodeHi, I'm trying to use sshfs inside a LXC2 container with 16.04. When I try to mount it gives me a "fusermount: mount failed: Operation not permitted"16:34
InnerCodeIn a LXC1 container it works great16:35
InnerCodeHow can I fix that error?16:36
ankitubuntu 16.04 splash screen missing any help16:36
ankithello anyone16:36
malaverdiereMy old laptop has a weirdo GPU that has given me plenty of trouble in the past with 3D-requiring DEs. I wanted to know what's ubuntu's requirement on that front and if that can be forced down to 2D if needed16:38
ankitplease help anyone16:38
ankitubuntu 16.04 splash screen missing16:39
malaverdiereankit: you gotta be patient. You're on IRC16:39
Bashing-ommalaverdiere: All depends on the hardware/driver support . what is the hardware - lspci -k | grep -EA2 'VGA|3D' - in a pastebin . We see then what we have to work with .16:40
ankitmalaverdiere sure sir16:40
malaverdiereBashing-om: That system is at home right now, so I can't run that command, but I can tell you what the OEM says: Intel HD Graphics 300016:44
OerHeksmalaverdiere, choose a lightweight desktop then, ubuntu is pretty heavy on 3d16:50
DArqueBishopmalaverdiere: Ubuntu MATE might be more your speed.16:51
malaverdiereThat was my hunch - thanks for the advice16:51
tgm4883tsimonq2: I'm assuming that is happening inside the VM? not on the host system?16:53
tsimonq2tgm4883: so I should ask if it's contained in the VM, right?16:53
tsimonq2tgm4883: I need to know what to ask him16:53
tgm4883tsimonq2: yea I would, and if so, did they install the virtualbox guest additions16:53
tsimonq2tgm4883: donw16:54
Bashing-ommalaverdiere: Regrest, my experience with Intel is quite limited . I only know that Intel just works as the drivers are opensourced from Intel and provided in the kernel .16:55
malaverdiereBashing-om: that's what I expected too, but this one is tricky. For instance, when I was on Windows, I couldn't download the latest Intel drivers from Intel's website - it told me to find out on Gateway's support. Looks like a custom GPU or something17:05
hdonhi all :) should i chmod u+s /usr/lib/dbus-1.0/dbus-daemon-launch-helper  ???17:08
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dyc3hey, ive been trying to get my bluetooth stuff to work with ubuntu via command line, audio and Internet tether. however, "sudo hcitool cc" appears to succeed but when i check "sudo hcitool con" it does not show any connections. am i doing something wrong? should i be using a different tool?17:08
cyberfab007hey yall how ya doing17:09
cyberfab007listen all of the sudden some repositories using apt-get are not working17:10
cyberfab007I am getting “faild to fetch “404 not found “17:10
bekkscyberfab007: pastebin the entire output please and provide the URL.17:11
dyc3cyberfab007, run apt-get update and try again17:11
cyberfab007k one sec , I am using a differnt computer17:11
lucidguyOk, I really tried to like Unity, but I think I have to pass.  First off, got rid of systemtray? horrible idea.  Secondly, close window button is on the left?  Top panel limited customization?  That Envelope icon, I can see my Thunderbird options and pidgin.  But I can't really control how that works, what is it?17:11
geniicyberfab007: That usually occurs when using an PPA which does not have packages for the distribution you are currently on17:11
mikhael_k33hlJust installed a fresh Ubuntu 16.04 installation on my laptop and it is very hot with high cpu and memory consumption as indicated by 'system monitor'. Is this a bug or something?17:12
bekksmikhael_k33hl: Pastebin "free -m" please.17:12
cyberfab007almost there17:12
cyberfab007I have been using ubuntu for almost 8 9 years , never seen this happen before17:13
mikhael_k33hlbekks: http://pastebin.com/9H4NrA1U17:13
cyberfab007there it is17:13
bekks!utopic | cyberfab00717:13
ubottucyberfab007: Ubuntu 14.10 (Utopic Unicorn) was the 21st release of Ubuntu.  Support ended on July 23rd, 2015. See !eol, !upgrade and http://ubottu.com/y/utopic17:13
bekks!eolupgrade | cyberfab00717:14
ubottucyberfab007: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades17:14
cyberfab007oh shit17:14
cyberfab007I have sooooooooooooooooooo much stuff on here :(17:14
bekkscyberfab007: So upgrade.17:14
genii!eolupgrade | cyberfab00717:15
ubottucyberfab007: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades17:15
sukAtaAnyone here successfully get a hawaii chipset radeon to play nice? been having some disasterous glitches in 16.0417:15
geniibekks: Whups, didn't see you did that earlier17:15
bekksgenii: ;)17:15
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mikhael_k33hlbekks: on system monitor, memory is on 59% while cpu is nearly 100%17:16
k1l_cyberfab007: ubuntu utopic is long time dead now. you are very late for the easy online updates so you need to read the link the bot gave you to do the EOL upgrade17:16
bekksmikhael_k33hl: You have almost no RAM usage.17:16
MonkeyDustmikhael_k33hl  install indicator-cpufreq17:16
bekksmikhael_k33hl: about 1.5G of your 8G are in use.17:17
k1l_cyberfab007: to be precise its dead since july 2015. since then you dont get any security updates anymore.17:17
lucidguyHow many here use Unity?17:17
cyberfab007thanks yall17:17
bekkslucidguy: Why? :P17:17
cyberfab007I have another laptop I installed 16.04 on ,17:18
lucidguyJust wondering if it is popular amogst users within this channel17:18
cyberfab007only thing I was impressed with was laptop battery life :)17:18
bekks!nomodeset > bekks17:18
ubottubekks, please see my private message17:18
dyc3so anyone know how to connect to bluetooth devices via terminal? hcitool isn't cooperating with me17:19
cyberfab007I am wondering to go back to 14.04 or use 16.0417:19
dyc3cyberfab007, ive had booting issues with 16.0417:20
bekkscyberfab007: Downgrades arent supported.17:20
MonkeyDustcyberfab007 both are supported17:20
cyberfab007Well I would have to do a clean install17:20
k1l_cyberfab007: you can do online upgrades with the EOL upgrade to 16.0417:20
dyc3cyberfab007, you might be able to do a "repair" to install 14.0417:20
cyberfab007yegh , but I gotta back up everything regardless now17:21
dyc3anyone know how to connect to bluetooth devices via terminal? hcitool isn't cooperating with me17:22
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skinuxI see in news online 16.04.1 is officially released. But, that doesn't count for upgrades yet....right?17:23
Bashing-om!ltsupgrade | skinux17:23
ubottuskinux: The automatic LTS upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04 was scheduled when 16.04.1 LTS was released on July 21st, but has been postponed for one week due to final bug testing.17:23
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k1l_skinux: i am quite sure we told you the same the last days :/17:25
mike-zalskinux, if you do upgrade you won't get newer kernel and new ubuntu software...17:26
mike-zalso it's good to consider clean install17:26
mike-zalby the way, I can't get bumblebee working on 16.04. it was fine before.17:27
k1l_mike-zal: sure you get a new kernel17:27
mike-zalnot automatically17:27
mike-zaldid the upgrade few days ago and had still old kernel17:27
k1l_mike-zal: and bumblebee is deprecated since long time on ubuntu17:27
k1l_mike-zal: make sure linux-generic is installed17:27
mike-zalwhat? is there any replacement?17:27
k1l_mike-zal: ubuntu uses nvidia-prime since long time.17:28
mike-zallinux-generic? will have to google it17:28
k1l_mike-zal: "linux-generic" is the metapackge for current kernel and headers17:28
s_spiffanyone here ever faced the issue of xinput showing two touchpads? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/21027040/17:28
mikhael_k33hlbekks MonkeyDust : it appears that the high cpu usage and temperature was due to intel_powerclamp whose purpose was to lower power consumption17:28
mike-zalah. I already did clean install yesterday so I guess I'm fine17:28
skinuxHmm. Skype released a new version, but they only have 32-bit packages for an older version that what I'm running.17:28
mike-zalk1l_, how do I run nvidia without bumblebee?17:29
skinuxWhy would I not get newer kernel and newer software when I upgrade to 16.04.1 in a week?17:29
alkisgskinux: you'll get them17:30
mike-zalskinux, upgrade process is not perfect and some new things are not applied if you can get them manually17:30
k1l_skinux: i would not count on the advice of a user who showed not to know a lot about that topics17:30
k1l_mike-zal: please stop confusing users17:30
mike-zalsome loos settings (I didn't, upgrade seemed to work fine but some but kernel was the same and no new ubuntu software only old one, had to manually change it)17:31
k1l_mike-zal: ubuntu uses nvidia-prime. which is the official driver support for hybrid graphics from nvidia itself17:31
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mike-zalk1l_, ubuntu uses by default novaou driver for me so no nvidia-prime and the result was battery drain and overheating. installing bumblebee fixed it. will google the topic.17:33
k1l_mike-zal: yes. as standard there is no nvidia driver installed. but if you use the ubuntu nvidia driver it will use nvidia-prime, too17:34
mike-zalk1l_, I upgraded mint in the past and now ubuntu and I know from experience that it doesn't always goes smooth. there is no point of hiding it. some users here claimed to have bad experience (lost all their settings)17:34
mike-zalso I don't think I'm confusing anyone. just telling how it worked in my case.17:35
OerHeksthe users who succesfully upgrade, you never read from them here...17:35
k1l_mike-zal: we dont focus on mint in here. for reasons.17:35
mike-zalanyway, backup before upgrade is always a good idea17:35
alkisg(08:26:30 μμ) mike-zal: skinux, if you do upgrade you won't get newer kernel and new ubuntu software...17:35
alkisgthat's not "your experience", it's just misleading17:35
OerHeksyeah, fud17:35
alkisgYou're not saying "this happened to me: ..."17:35
mike-zalok, sorry for badly formulated statement17:36
mike-zalanyway, upgrade seemed to work fine but no newer kernel was to be seen. maybe because I was upgrading from 15.10 which had 4.217:36
gtlhey guys, desperately need help :D I recently upgraded following tutorial from DigitalOcean! now, network does not work with error: RTLNETWORK answers:file exists17:37
k1l_mike-zal: again. as standard 15.10 will have "linux-generic" installed which will pull the 4.4 kernel on 16.04 on upgrade. so please dont confuse other users with your system that was clearly changed by you and so didnt do a regular upgrade.17:38
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mike-zalk1l_, I never bothered with kernels so I didn't change anything. I just noticed which kernel I have shortly before upgrade.17:41
alkisgmike-zal: do you have multiple ubuntu installations on the same pc? maybe you were using a wrong grub config17:41
mike-zalI have manjaro on other parition and use its grub to launch ubuntu. maybe that's the reson?17:42
alkisgYup, possibly manjaro didn't get the newer kernel from the ubuntu partition, and used the old one17:42
alkisgWhile the newer kernel was there17:42
alkisgSo you're supposed to only let one distro manage the MBR, i.e. a user config error17:42
mike-zalhowever ubuntu grub is in UEFI version, in seperate folder so it all should be fine17:43
alkisgWhether UEFI or BIOS, only one grub is the main one that gets launched by default17:43
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k1l_yes. should have run a grub update from the OS that handles the grub17:44
mike-zalthe great thing about UEFI, you can have many grubs, they don't override each other. you can choose any of them in BIOS17:44
mike-zalubuntu's grub cannot run manjaro, but manjaro grub can run manjaro and ubuntu, hence I use this one, but yes, I should have think about that and perform update from default grub, because running system may have some lacks that are not seen in daily use17:45
alkisgmike-zal: you can choose which one to boot, and one of them is the default. Did you choose to boot the ubuntu one and did you not see the entry for the new kernel?17:45
EriC^^mike-zal: i think one is in uefi mode the other in legacy17:46
mike-zalafter upgrade I logged in to manjaro and updated the list with grub-customizer and no, had 4.2 kernel only17:46
mike-zalno, both are in legacy. I have efi folders for manjaro and ubuntu grub.17:47
mike-zalU meant, both are in UEFI17:47
EriC^^how odd though17:47
alkisgmike-zal: so, not an issue with the ubuntu upgrade after all, it's either a problem with majaro, or grub-customizer, or the user not doing the appropriate actions17:47
EriC^^oh well :)17:47
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mike-zalI knew that I should get newer kernel so I payed attention to that. but never mind. 4.2 or 4.4, they all work fine.17:48
alkisgI'm pretty sure that ubuntu's grub.cfg had the proper kernel there17:48
mike-zalbut why os prober didn't see it? it recognized version change.17:49
alkisgmanjaro's os-prober? you should ask in #manjaro then17:49
alkisgYou didn't ever see ubuntu's grub menu, as I understand it17:49
quadruplehi, should the command: "sudo echo 'string' >> /etc/environment" work inside a bash script?17:50
mike-zalafter update I did reboot and booted in manjaro, updated entry and then reboot again and booted into ubuntu17:50
Sysop_WARDENNick goto #AirFire half hour17:51
Sysop_WARDENcrap sorry wrong window17:51
alkisgmike-zal: "updated entry" ==> that step happens in manjaro, I've no idea about manjaro, you should ask in their channel. If you had ubuntu's grub as the default, then you would ask here.17:51
mike-zalbut nevermind. this nvidia running issue is more important now. will look into this nvidia-prime driver. I hope I can safely uninstall bumblebee now...17:51
EriC^^quadruple: no17:51
mcphailquadruple: no17:51
EriC^^quadruple: you need to either run the script as sudo, or sudo bash -c "echo something >> /etc/environment"17:52
mike-zalalkisg, that's not a problem now so no reason to waste time with it. ubuntu works fine. I just need to figure out the nvidia hybrid thing in ubuntu.17:52
EriC^^quadruple: alternatively there's echo something | sudo tee -a /etc/environment17:52
mike-zalin fact, I'm very pleased how fast new ubuntu is. just wow!17:52
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Sysop_WARDENmike-zal: i admit i like it as well, i am primarily a FreeBSD guy, but i do like ubuntu17:54
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nealshirehow can I bring up the text that appears in terminal after I log in? I don't like having to reopen terminal to see if my packages are updated17:57
quadrupleEriC^^, mcphail, ty. I will try echo | sudo tee17:58
skweeksomeone please help me! this drives me nuts, bluetooth is so annoying... when I connect my headphones I get 1 of 3 outcomes, bluetooth connected but they don't show up in audio, bluetooth connected but they don't use ad2p audio and have poor quality, or they connect and everything works17:58
mike-zalI use manjaro on daily basis but I like new ubuntu. now it's more configurable, very fast. I enjoy unity, which many thinks as heresy ;). on manjaro I use usually plasma or gnome 3, sometimes lxqt. I think every distro has its pros and cons. ubuntu is solid one although sometimes it has issues with broadcom cards. a week ago I was trying to install it on some laptop and none of ubuntu systems and derivatives had wifi, but manjaro worked17:59
mike-zalout of the box so I guess sometimes distros must be checked with given hardware17:59
alkisgnealshire: apt list --upgradeable17:59
alkisgnealshire: what you asked is motd, but the command I mentioned is more up to date17:59
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nealshirethat works better than motd, thanks17:59
mcphailmike-zal: this converation isn't on-topic for this channel. You should join #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-discuss. it keeps this channel clear for support. Thanks18:00
mike-zalalso, had some issue with skyrim on manjaro so I wanted to try it on ubuntu. unfortunatelly here I have exactly the same problem... so ironically manjaro and ubuntu are not that different here... ;P18:00
raina@search dead mountaineer18:02
ubuntuxdcc send lisst18:06
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skweekhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/21033889/ does anyone know why I can't find an audio option18:07
s_spiffmy xinput list is showing two elantech touchpads.. which makes no sense. Any way to fix this?18:12
SCHAAP137it shows my mouse twice as wlel18:12
SCHAAP137does it create issues?18:13
SCHAAP137or does it not work as expected, s_spiff ?18:13
SCHAAP137it doesn't make a lot of sense to me either, but it must have some technical reason18:14
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alphazuluhey guys i have an ubuntu partition on a win8 laptop with efi bios, installed grub-efi and ran grub-install but it still boots direct  into windows18:16
s_spiffSCHAAP137: no idea.. my touchpad is crazy. can't typer most of the time because the cursor bounces around!18:17
SCHAAP137hmm, i doubt that has to do with the dual mention in the xinput list18:18
SCHAAP137my pointer device has two IDs in there as well18:18
s_spiffSCHAAP137: well.. I guess I won't bother about it then. may be it's normal.18:20
GRCAn someone help me with some issues I've been having?18:21
GRAlthough my Ubuntu version is quite old.18:21
d1rewolfcould someone tell my why bamfdaemon would request me to unlock my ssh key?18:21
Bashing-om!10.04 | GR18:21
ubottuGR: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS (Lucid Lynx) was the twelfth release of Ubuntu. Desktop support ended May 9 2013. Server support ended on April 30 2015. See http://ubottu.com/y/lucid for more details.18:21
mike-zalfascinating. does such ubuntu version still has repo connection?18:21
GRI can't install any packages on Ubuntu18:22
GRI can't install any packages on Ubuntu18:22
mike-zalthat's normal18:22
mike-zalold versions are cut off after a while18:22
GRi know18:22
GRubuntu 10.04 is not supported18:22
Bashing-omGR: 1-.-4 is dead .. and the software repository no longer exists for it .18:23
DArqueBishopGR: you REALLY need to upgrade.18:23
GRbut I also know that this issue is not restricted to 10.0418:23
GRas far as I know it has been seen on precise and trusty18:23
mike-zal14.04 and 16.04 are working fine18:23
GRanyone have any ideas why nothing an be installed?18:24
OerHeksGR that has been answered, 10.04 is EOL, and trusty 14.04 works fine, as it is still supported18:24
OerHeksso upgrade18:24
BluesKajGR,  because the package repository is no longer active18:24
mike-zalGR you just have to install newer system and if your computer is weak, choose distro with lighweight DE. lubuntu is great.18:24
GRbut the odd thing18:25
master1am using 16.04 working fine18:25
Bashing-omGR: See my last .. the software repository no longer exists .18:25
uioHow to join ubuntu off topic18:25
k1l_GR you cant on 10.04 because the servers got shut down because its too old.18:25
k1l_!ot | uio18:25
ubottuuio: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!18:25
GRis that installing worked before18:25
GRdid the servers just get shut down?18:25
DArqueBishopGR: yes.18:25
bekksGR: six years ago, it worked. Today, its too old.18:25
OerHeks April 30 201518:25
mike-zalGR, new LTS is online so they just turned off older versions for good18:26
uiok1l_: Hmmmm this command won't work... /join #ubuntu-offtopic18:26
OerHeksuio, what error do you get?18:26
master1anyone who knows android developer channel on freenode18:26
mike-zaluio, the other ubuntu channel has a different name from what I recall, but don't remeber it..18:26
k1l_GR ever ubuntu release got a fixed date to expire. the date for 10.04 server was 5 years after release. which was april 2015.18:26
uioOerHeks: I got nothing I am at webchat.freend18:26
GRI've tried updated but it always breaks the computer18:27
uiomike-zal: I think you're right18:27
mike-zalGR, just install new Lubunu18:27
k1l_uio: as the message tells you you need to register and login to join the offtopic18:27
GRive tried18:27
mike-zalGR, you tried new lubuntu?18:27
GR"lubuntu", not ubuntu?18:27
uiok1l_: Odd, so one can use #ubuntu without registering, but must register to use offtopic. Odd indeed.18:28
k1l_GR, are we talking about a server or a desktop18:28
mike-zallubuntu is working well on old computers18:28
GRa REALLY bad desktop18:28
mike-zalubuntu will to too heavy18:28
k1l_uio: due to abuse by the trolls, yes.18:28
k1l_GR, then test the Lubuntu iso. its made for old and slow hardware.18:28
uiok1l_: So abuse in the main channel is not an issue?18:28
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k1l_uio: it is. but we try to keep the barrier low for beginners support.18:29
uiok1l_: Oh, good point. Cool. Thanks.18:29
mike-zalLubuntu is really good and flexible. it can be made good looking if you have some computer juice but if not, basic version will work just fine18:29
OerHeksi would go for Xubuntu, Lubuntu is really simple18:30
alkisgGR, how much RAM does that PC have?18:30
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mike-zalOerHeks, depends on GR hardware. lubuntu is lighter. I know old laptops that run slowly on xfce... so that's not always a good option18:30
boxbeatsyhi all, when i logged into my ubuntu trusty computer today, my terminals were randomly closing after i ran commmands.  at first, i thought it could be a memory issue, but after running top, i had more than enough free.  then, i realized that it was only specific commands that would result in the terminal automatically closing itself.  in addition, i couldn't open up any browser.  i would just think this was a random error, but i'm spooked becuase my termin18:31
boxbeatsyi restarted, and everything seems back to normal18:31
mike-zallooks like file corruption18:31
alkisgboxbeatsy: if you type long sentences, they get cut off after 250 characters, so we didn't see all that you wrote. It got cut off at: "but i'm spooked becuase my termin"18:32
bekksboxbeatsy: which commands did you run then?18:32
alkisgboxbeatsy: type enter more frequently18:32
Kyokuanyone know of a tool that can show me what files a process is accessing in real time?18:32
boxbeatsysorry, but i'm spooked becuase my terminals were  closing when i tried running 'ps ax' or 'ps ax | grep sh'  but would NOT close when i ran 'ps ax | grep python' or 'ps  ax | grep vim' as if something was trying to prevent me from  seeing it running a shell script.  am i being paranoid?18:32
bekksKyoku: strace18:32
bekksKyoku: lsof18:32
mike-zalby the way, how to open tty in ubuntu? need to know before I will start to mess with drivers.. ;P18:32
bekksboxbeatsy: which commands did you run then?18:32
bekksmike-zal: press ctrl+alt+f118:33
master1alt +f418:33
boxbeatsyfailed commands: "ps ax" "ps ax | grep sh" "ps ax > psax.txt" "google-chrome &"18:33
boxbeatsysuccessful commands: "ps ax | grep vim" "ps ax | grep python" "top"18:33
bekksboxbeatsy: define "failed".18:33
mike-zalbekks, thanks18:33
boxbeatsyfailed == my terminal just closed automatically after i pressed enter18:33
Kyokuthanks bekks i was thinking of something that works like top so i can watch it update18:34
bekksboxbeatsy: open a terminal, enter one of those commands and see that they arent responsible for closing your terminal.18:34
bekksKyoku: "watch -n1 lsof" :)18:34
mike-zalKyoku, try htop, it's a better version then top, but must be installed18:34
boxbeatsybekks: i restarted just now, and things are back to normal now18:34
bekksmike-zal: he isnt asking for top/htop, but for a tool for listing open files :)18:35
boxbeatsybut before i restarted, i reproduced it 4-5 times.  why would "ps ax | grep sh" result in a terminal closing itself, but not "ps ax | grep python"?18:35
bekksboxbeatsy: "ps ax | grep sh" does not cause a terminal to be closing.18:36
boxbeatsyor more broadly, why would ANY command result in a terminal shutting itself down?18:36
master1how to close tty18:36
bekksboxbeatsy: besides "exit", "quit" or "ctrl d", no command would cause that.18:36
gtlRTNETLINK answers: File exists what does this mean, please help me18:37
bekksgtl: that some file already exists.18:37
boxbeatsybekks: that's why i'm worried :(.  it seems like some background process was doing this.  would you be concerned?18:37
bekksboxbeatsy: the issue is gone, thats what you said.18:37
gtli have been so much wondering, bekks18:37
bekksgtl: why?18:38
gtlmy network is not working after i upgraded to 16.0418:38
boxbeatsybekks: the symptoms i mentioned are gone is what i meant to say18:38
bekksboxbeatsy: Yeah, so the issue is gone.18:38
phaoHi. How do I upgrade my ubuntu system to a newer version?18:38
bekksphao: which version are you running now?18:38
OerHeksphao, depends, what version?18:38
Kyokuthanks again bekks, that works fine18:39
bekks!15.10 | phao18:39
ubottuphao: Ubuntu 15.10 (Wily Werewolf) was the 23rd release of Ubuntu. Download at http://releases.ubuntu.com/15.10 - Read the release notes at http://ubottu.com/y/wily - Scheduled to go EOL in July, 201618:39
alkisgboxbeatsy: just to be 100% sure it's not an issue, I would run a memtest in your pc18:40
bekks!eolupgrade | phao18:40
ubottuphao: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades18:40
hdonhi all :) i'm on xenial. dbus-monitor tells me "The permission of the setuid helper is not correct" -- what's the deal with this?18:40
Kyokuanyone have any tips for making ubuntu run faster and smoother when booting from a USB?  i set firefox to cache from memory but anything else worth doing?18:40
k1l_phao: a "sudo do-release-upgrade" should bring you to 16.0418:40
bekksKyoku: USe another medium than USB :)18:40
alkisgKyoku: is it a live usb or an installation to a usb?18:40
Kyokui knew that was coming, lol18:40
Joseph1212kyoku i use a usb and it works fine18:40
hdonthe first hit on google for ""The permission of the setuid helper is not correct" ubuntu" is a report from 201318:40
Kyokuencrypted install to usb key18:40
hdonwhy is ubuntu distributing a broken dbus package?18:40
k1l_Kyoku: honestly: get a fast usb3 pendrive with fast writing speeds. that is the best way.18:41
Joseph1212kyoku do you use usb 3.0?18:41
Kyokuit's ok but kinda locks up for a few seconds from time to time18:41
phaok1l_, thanks18:41
Kyokuyes it's usb 318:41
Joseph1212kyoku mine works great18:41
bekksKyoku: using usb3, you'd need a SSD for noticing improvements.18:41
Kyokumaybe i need a better quality key18:41
alkisgKyoku: does the live usb method, which uses overlayfs and doesn't write to the stick, work fast enough for you, without locks etc?18:41
Joseph1212kyoku i use it with virtual box and usb but that is a lot slower18:41
Kyokuno i can't use live, it must be fully encrypted boot key18:42
Joseph1212kyoku but i also use it to boot from usb without virtual box and that is fast18:42
alkisgYou can have encrypted home18:42
Joseph1212kyoku encrypt the home18:42
Kyokunot good enough, i want whole thing encrypted so it can't be tampered with18:43
Joseph1212kyoku that is where your problem is i think18:43
Joseph1212kyoku are you encrypting the whole thing?18:43
Joseph1212i mean how18:43
Kyokuduring install, it gives option to encrypt whole drive18:44
Joseph1212kyoku no that is home drive18:44
bekksKyoku: No it doesnt, thats encryption of your home folder only.18:44
Kyokuthe whole partition is encrypted, the home folder is additional18:45
Joseph1212kyoku lol18:45
bekksKyoku: Did you try to artificially slow down your system? :)18:45
gerarhola gente, probando mi Ubuntu Mate18:45
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Kyokutrust me, the whole disk is encrypted18:46
Joseph1212no its not18:46
Joseph1212there isnt an option for that18:47
Joseph1212home folder18:47
Kyokuthere is18:47
bekksKyoku: pastebin "df -h" please :)18:47
OerHeksJoseph1212, wrong.18:47
Joseph1212show me a screen shot then18:47
alkisgKyoku: I was asking about performance, not method. There are ways to do that same overlayfs speed up in any case (encryption or not).18:47
Joseph1212oerheks where18:47
OerHeksthere are 2 options whole drive, OR home only18:47
alkisgKyoku: out of curiosity, do you need to type a password before boot?18:47
Joseph1212oerheks that is not true18:47
Joseph1212oerheks show me screen shot18:47
Kyokui have to enter the encryption key before i can even get to login18:48
OerHeksJoseph1212, i leave you to it. go look yourself.18:48
Joseph1212kyoku i enter a key too but that is home folder18:48
alkisgKyoku: do you enter it before the system boots? Not before login, but before it gets to boot...18:48
Joseph1212oerheks thanks for the troll18:48
DArqueBishopJoseph1212: OerHeks is not trolling. When you set up the disk, there's an option for encrypting the whole disk.18:49
Joseph1212no there isnt18:49
Joseph1212screen shot18:49
DArqueBishopThe option to encrypt the home folder only comes later, when you set up the initial user.18:49
Joseph1212or stop trolling18:49
alkisgJoseph1212: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2012/11/privacy-ubuntu-1210-full-disk-encryption18:49
alkisgI haven't done it though18:49
OerHeksJoseph1212, stop it please, you are wrong, start the installer yourself if you don't believe the info.18:49
houssembonsoir jarive pas a joué au poker avec lunix comment fait merci18:50
bekks!fr | houssem18:50
ubottuhoussem: Nous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.18:50
Joseph1212why would i start the installer ....i asked for webpage and you didnt do it so18:50
Joseph1212i thought you were a troll get over it18:50
bekksJoseph1212: And you werent able to find a link yourself, as everyone else. So please stop it now: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/install-ubuntu-desktop18:50
Joseph1212be quiet troll18:50
Kyokui followed this18:51
bekksJoseph1212: plonk18:51
-Picka:#ubuntu- IndigoTiger from #Wrongplanet is freenode's biggest pedophile. Please help us in our mission to eleminiate him from freenode.18:53
OerHeksJoseph1212, http://www.tecmint.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Ubuntu-16.04-Installation-Type.png18:54
hdonsorry for saying this. none of our other xenial systems had this issue. we're not sure how this happened.18:54
OerHeksit isn't on the same page as home folder encryption anymore, that might confuse you18:54
alkisgSo, full disk encryption password is entered at the initramfs stage by http://sources.debian.net/src/yubikey-luks/0.3.3%2B3.ge11e4c1-1/key-script/?hl=28#L28. That means that only /boot needs to be unencrypted.18:56
Kyokusecond option down18:58
Kyokuencrypts whole disk18:58
Kyokuincluding swap18:58
rajivmars the update notifier show an error message that adobe flash plugin has not successfully installed. How do i install it now?19:00
ioriarajivmars,  have you tried form terminal ? update, full-upgrade ....19:03
alkisgrajivmars: doesn't it have a button that says "try this action now"?19:04
geniiioria: They are currently receiving help now in the #kubuntu channel19:05
ioriagenii, i see :þ19:06
TurboKrakenLooking to get help running Eclipse. After starting I get a Subversion Native Library Not Available error followed by: no svnjavahl-1 in java.library.path19:06
rajivmarsalkisg: yes it had. but at that time my internet connection has disconnected, that's why i had closed that.19:06
TurboKrakenAny ideas?19:06
-Fama:#ubuntu- Indigotiger is a Holocaust denial and a pro-Nazi sympathizer. He advocates the use of eugenism to ensure the purity of the Aryan Race.19:06
-Hunnia:#ubuntu- Indigotiger is a Holocaust denial and a pro-Nazi sympathizer. He advocates the use of eugenism to ensure the purity of the Aryan Race.19:06
-Hunnia:#ubuntu- Indigotiger is a Holocaust denial and a pro-Nazi sympathizer. He advocates the use of eugenism to ensure the purity of the Aryan Race.19:06
-Hunnia:#ubuntu- Indigotiger is a Holocaust denial and a pro-Nazi sympathizer. He advocates the use of eugenism to ensure the purity of the Aryan Race.19:06
-Fama:#ubuntu- Indigotiger is a Holocaust denial and a pro-Nazi sympathizer. He advocates the use of eugenism to ensure the purity of the Aryan Race.19:06
-Fama:#ubuntu- Indigotiger is a Holocaust denial and a pro-Nazi sympathizer. He advocates the use of eugenism to ensure the purity of the Aryan Race.19:06
-Bellingshausen:#ubuntu- Indigotiger is a Holocaust denial and a pro-Nazi sympathizer. He advocates the use of eugenism to ensure the purity of the Aryan Race.19:06
-Bellingshausen:#ubuntu- Indigotiger is a Holocaust denial and a pro-Nazi sympathizer. He advocates the use of eugenism to ensure the purity of the Aryan Race.19:06
-Bellingshausen:#ubuntu- Indigotiger is a Holocaust denial and a pro-Nazi sympathizer. He advocates the use of eugenism to ensure the purity of the Aryan Race.19:06
* genii feeds Drone` more bot-cookies19:07
ioriarajivmars,  you mean installation aborted ?19:07
rajivmarsioria: i haven't start the installation yet.19:09
ioriarajivmars,  16.04 or 14.04 ?19:09
rajivmarsalkisg: how do i get that notifier again so i click on that button,19:10
rajivmarsioria: 16.0419:10
OerHeksrajivmars,  sudo apt-get -reinstall flashplugin-installer19:10
ioriarajivmars,  well, i'd suggest to run sudo apt update and sudo apt full-upgrade .... and note if it mentions to run sudo dpkg --configure -a19:12
ioriarajivmars,  btw, using adobe-flashplugin or flashplugin-installer ?19:13
OerHeksi hope the last one ..19:13
tewardthe 14.04 -> 16.04 upgrade path is still not opened, correct?19:13
OerHeksteward, yes19:14
ubottuThe automatic LTS upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04 was scheduled when 16.04.1 LTS was released on July 21st, but has been postponed for one week due to final bug testing.19:14
rajivmarsioria: flashplugin-installer.19:14
ioriarajivmars,  dpkg -l flashplugin-installer19:14
alkisgioria: flashplugin-installer gets installed normally, and then can download the flash.tar.gz outside of the apt package management process, it's not subject to updates/full-upgrades...19:17
alkisgupdate-notifier triggers it when needed, but I don't know the exact command. Its postinst works though, so --reinstall will work as OerHeks said19:17
ioriaalkisg, he said lost connection ...19:18
alkisgThat doesn't affect apt succeeding in installing flashplugin-installer19:18
alkisgupdate-notifier downloads http://archive.canonical.com/pool/partner/a/adobe-flashplugin/adobe-flashplugin_20160712.1.orig.tar.gz and then /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/install_plugin installs it to the proper directory19:19
alkisgThat part is not related to apt at all, unfortunately, it can be ran unsynchronously later on without apt running19:19
ioriaalkisg  so why wasn't installed ?19:20
alkisgioria: usually it fails because it cannot download the aforementioned .tar.gz when the apt install/upgrade was performed, for whatever reason (e.g. connectivity lost right after all the .deb packages were downloaded and started to get installed)19:22
alkisgioria: I've seen it happen more than 30 times so far...19:22
ioriaalkisg  happened to me few days ago ... and apt said to me to run sudo dpkg --configure -a and it fixed  it19:23
ioriaalkisg  (the download was stuck , so i stopped it)19:23
alkisgioria: in your case, you stopped the apt process, it's not the same as a "connectivity error; will download the .tar.gz later"19:24
alkisgIn that second case, apt continues and succeeds, there's nothing left unconfigured19:24
ioriaalkisg i see19:24
ohmydear all, i've an issue in QtMultimedia related to gstreamer, in fact gstreamer 1.0 pipeline works well but not 0.1, in example : gst-launch-1.0 playbin uri=file:/// works perfectly, however gst-launch-0.10 playbin uri=file:/// doesnt and gives me** Message: don't know how to handle audio/mpeg, mpegversion=(int)1, mpegaudioversion=(int)1, layer=(int)3, rate=(int)44100, channels=(int)2, parsed=(boolean)true19:25
ohmyERROR: from element /GstPlayBin:playbin0: You do not have a decoder installed to handle this file. You might need to install the necessary plugins19:25
ohmycan anyone try on his machine please ? or anyone have an idea please ?19:25
alkisgohmy: I'm not experienced in gstreamer, but I imagine you only have the 1.0 plugins installed, and not the 0.10 ones19:28
alkisgdpkg -l '*gstreamer*' | grep ^ii, will tell you19:28
alkisgThat's the default in 16.04, to only have the 1.0 plugins19:28
ohmyalkisg: i've both, i've tried apt-cache search anything gstreamer in installed 0.1 and 1.0 aswell19:29
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ohmyalkisg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/21044831/19:30
alkisgohmy: which variant handles that file? maybe it's in "ugly", which you don't have installed?19:31
alkisg(or in 0.10-bad, which you also don't have...)19:32
energizerDoes ack-grep take regex for the directory field?19:33
energizerI woulda thought ack-grep flymake ".*theme.*" would give the same as ack-grep flymake *theme*, but it it doesnt19:35
emankcinAnyone here have experience with partition types and mdadm?19:44
bekksA lot of people do.19:44
alkisg!ask | emankcin:19:44
ubottuemankcin:: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience19:44
emankcinOh right, sorry. Been a while since I've been here. Alright.. I set up a RAID 1 array on two disks through mdadm with partition type 'Linux' (83), forgetting to set them to raid autodetect type (fd). I'm wondering if this might affect array detection if the array migrates to another system. Is it possible to use fdisk to change the ID to 'fd' without losing data?19:47
vlyalcinhi to all19:48
vlyalcinI am getting error during "apt-get update"19:48
vlyalcin"some index files failed to download. they have been ignored or old ones used instead"19:48
vlyalcinubuntu 16.0419:48
vlyalcinwhat is wrong with my repo?19:49
k1l_vlyalcin: put all the exact output onto paste.ubuntu.com and show the url here19:49
emankcinmight want to include your sources.list19:49
OerHeksemankcin, lets see his update output first :-)19:50
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vlyalcin@kll_ http://paste.ubuntu.com/21047559/19:51
vlyalcinthere is some turkish lines. is it understandable?19:52
alkisgvlyalcin: remove ubuntu-mate-dev from your sources, it's invalid19:53
k1l_the mate dev  ppa doesnt have a xenial support right now. dont know if that is the way it should be.19:53
emankcinvlyalcin, '404' is the same in all languages hehe19:53
k1l_vlyalcin: you could ask in #ubuntu-mate if that is meant to be that way19:53
OerHeksit is i guess, no xenial versions19:53
k1l_yeah, maybe someone from the devs removed it by accident. i dont know. they should know19:54
OerHeksvlyalcin, use ppa-purge to remove that ppa and reverse to the original mate packages19:54
vlyalcinemankcin: thank you for reply but "E: Bazı indeks dosyaları indirilemedi. Bu dosyalar yok sayıldılar ya da önceki sürümleri kullanıldı." is that same for all language too? anyway19:55
Xmrdany know about SDR19:55
tatertotshello everyone need some help with i/o redirection of a command to file. 'ssh-keygen'19:55
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bekkstatertots: what do you mean exactly?19:56
tatertotsif i redirect stdout and stderr to file i can't stdin19:56
emankcinI'll try changing the partition type to 'fd' and see what happens. I have a data backup and rebuilding the array wont take long. Just the rsync after could take some time. Will report back.19:56
bekkstatertots: wh do you redirect at all?19:56
tatertotsi want to run 'ssh-keygen' and capture the whole thing to file19:57
bekkstatertots: What for?19:57
emankcinuse the > pipe19:57
tatertotsmaking a tutorial19:57
bekkstatertots: make a screenshot or copy/paste the output.19:57
vlyalcinalkisg: thank you19:58
vlyalcink1l_: thank you19:58
vlyalcinOerHeks: thank you19:58
OerHeksvlyalcin, have fun!19:58
vlyalcinbut not solved yet :)19:58
vlyalcinfirst I wanted to say thank you19:58
ubottuTo disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html19:58
vlyalcinhow can I revert to original..19:58
k1l_vlyalcin: you should rearange your mate PPAs anyway. they got a ppa for xenial. and you are using a mix of old ones. but in #ubuntu-mate they will tell you which to use best19:59
Karrde14.04 -> 16.04.1  do-release-upgrade enabled soon?19:59
bekksKarrde: In a week.19:59
ubottuThe automatic LTS upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04 was scheduled when 16.04.1 LTS was released on July 21st, but has been postponed for one week due to final bug testing.19:59
k1l_Karrde: it was delayed for one week.19:59
rajivmarsi have downloaded the .deb file of virtualbox 5.1 in the Download directory. How do i install it now?19:59
MonkeyDustrajivmars  dpkg -i blah.deb19:59
Karrdeso, yes?20:00
bekksrajivmars: BY following the installation instructions given in the virtualbox website.20:00
Xmrdneed help about  OpenBTS20:01
bekksXmrd: we dont know, do you need help with OpenBTS?20:02
Xmrdya OpenBTS20:02
bekksXmrd: You might want to ask your question then.20:03
Xmrdyap i got some error can't fix it20:03
Xmrdcan u lookup20:03
bekksXmrd: Dont ask wether someone can lookup, ask your question. :)20:03
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XmrdEMERG 3073669952 02:04:44.0 OpenBTS.cpp:151:startTransceiver: cannot find ./transceiver20:05
XmrdEMERG 3073669952 02:04:44.0 OpenBTS.cpp:156:startTransceiver: Transceiver quit with status 256. Exiting.20:05
bekksXmrd: there is no such file "./transceiver".20:05
emankcinChanged partition type to 'fd' in fdisk. Data still appears unaffected. I'll run diff to verify.20:06
Xmrdafter fix20:06
XmrdStarting the system...20:06
XmrdALERT 3074590464 01:48:09.2 TRXManager.cpp:595:getFactoryCalibration: READFACTORY failed with status -120:06
XmrdALERT 3074590464 01:48:09.2 TRXManager.cpp:476:setTSC: SETTSC failed with status -120:06
XmrdALERT 3074590464 01:48:09.2 TRXManager.cpp:446:powerOn: POWERON failed with status -2220:06
Xmrd1469562489.310801 3074590464:20:06
bekksemankcin: fdisk changes the partition table entry, no thing else.20:06
emankcinbekks, I had a suspicion it wouldn't affect much, just a flag of sorts. Just couldn't google any verification of such. Thanks!20:07
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vlyalcink1l_: I asked my question to ubuntu-mate channel and solved. thank you20:17
rajivmarscan i install two Desktop environment on ubuntu 16.04?20:18
Muriianyone here experienced with ATI drivers?20:19
k1l_rajivmars: yes. you can choose which to use on the login screen20:19
rajivmarsk1l_: is there any problem after installing other DE?20:20
k1l_rajivmars: what do you mean?20:20
MuriiAnyway. I got an thinkpad x120e which had windows 7 on it and everything went well on it(playing videos in full hd and gaming). Now I installed lubuntu and I can't even play full hd videos, I get lag even at 720p20:21
extinct_potatorajivmars, it depends, but the rule of thumb is that don't install gnome along mate for example20:21
extinct_potatoby the way, what DE do you want to install rajivmars?20:21
OerHeksextinct_potato, that is not true. there is no rule of thumb with those 2 DE's20:22
rajivmarsk1l_: i mean installing other DE affects the performance of the computer or its fine?20:22
k1l_rajivmars: its fine20:22
extinct_potatoOerHeks thanks for correcting me. I thought there had been some conflicts between two od them.20:22
emankcinrajivmars, It just takes more space for packages related to each DE20:23
emankcinrajivmars, Apart from that, you can try out whatever you want and purge DE-specific packages for whatever you don't like using20:23
extinct_potato'apt-get purge' is a very handy utility but use it with extra care.20:24
OerHeksadding a DE is no problem, removing one can be a hassle20:25
akikextinct_potato: kde and unity didn't play well together in 16.04. haven't tried with 16.04.120:25
emankcinOerHeks, agreed20:25
emankcinIs Unity still the default for ubuntu desktop?20:26
extinct_potatoakik, yes, that's true.20:26
transhumanhi my sql database fails to upgrade on a version upgrade to latest because I have host name duplicates upper and lower case. This is a problem I have seen mention of but don't know a fix ...anyone?20:27
k1l_emankcin: yes20:27
extinct_potatoemankcin, yes.20:27
emankcinIs it.. better now?20:27
transhumanthis became apparent on the upgrade to the latest Ubuntu20:27
subsumehello there. do you think its possible to use tensorflow and a GPU on windows using some ubuntu from usb?20:29
subsumewell forget i said windows20:29
subsumeits a windows box20:29
bekkssubsume: So please rephrase :)20:30
subsumehello there. do you think its possible to use a usb version of ubuntu (or whichever) with GPU support?20:30
bekksSure, why wouldnt it be possible?20:30
emankcinsubsume, I'm not sure what you mean20:30
emankcinsubsume, Your choice of boot device shouldn't have any bearing on GPU support20:31
k1l_subsume: do you have a specific issue?20:31
subsumeno specific issue so far just looking for a starting point.20:31
emankcinsubsume, A USB boot is a great way to start20:32
emankcinbetter than running liveCDs. Oh the boot times20:32
subsumeno specific issue so far just looking for a starting point./20:32
subsumedo you have any idea how big in general a USB stick I might need?20:32
subsumeis there a flavor that's made with that in mind i could start with and modify across restarts?20:32
emankcinsubsume, I'm not sure for ubuntu-desktop. I assume something large enough to contain the image20:33
k1l_subsume: it should work with regular gpus. that is why we are a bit confused about that question20:33
k1l_subsume: use 2gb pendrives at least20:33
emankcinsubsume, You should be safe with a 4 or 8gb drive. They're dirt cheap anyway20:33
subsumewhen i make changes i guess it all saves, last time i did this stuff it was a liveCD20:34
emankcinI'll check how big the ubuntu image is20:34
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alkisgsubsume: you'll want to install ubuntu to the usb stick, not just use a live usb20:34
rattkingnow I thought you needed the proprietary to work with the GPU?20:35
alkisgTry to get a fast one, maybe 8 gb to be able to also include whatever software stacks you'll need20:35
emankcinsubsume, the ubuntu image is 1.4gb, so 2gb should work. The website states 25GB for an installed version though, so keep that in mind. If you wish to install to and run from a usb drive, you can get a 32gb drive. May want to use ext2 for that.20:36
subsumei have an 8gb20:36
subsumei think it will fit, although i do have to build tensorflow and other python libs on it20:36
subsumewhat image should i look for?20:37
subsumei definitely need GPU support20:37
subsumeeither out of the box or installable20:37
emankcinthe standard ubuntu desktop image which is compatible with your architecture20:37
emankcinmost likely amd6420:37
subsumethe standard is only 2gb huh, that's cool20:38
alkisgsubsume: 2 gb is the compressed image; when you install it it needs more space20:39
alkisg8 gb should be enough20:39
subsumeoh, yeah its recommending 25...20:39
subsumeis there some other flavor i could look at that's made for this?20:39
subsumeit would be nice to just use what i've got20:39
alkisgYup, install it there20:39
subsumebut its only 8gb20:39
alkisgThe installation will take 4 to 5 gb20:40
alkisgAdd < 1 GB swap, you still have some left for your software20:40
subsumei guess that's probably fine20:41
subsumeso if i burn this from my macbook to my usb, does the installation start when i plug it into windows?20:41
subsume(plug it into my current windows box, i meant)20:42
emankcinsubsume, I believe there are lighter versions. I'm not sure if Xubuntu or Lubuntu still exist, but those might fit the bill. You can also try something lighter in general. Install base Debian with a small DE, for example20:42
subsumei'll try this out i think i only need 400MB of application code20:42
alkisgYou need to boot from an ubuntu live medium and then install to usb20:42
alkisgIf you create a live usb stick, you can't use it to install to usb as well20:43
subsumeoh darn, that's what i need20:43
subsumei could maybe boot from one usb and install to another?20:43
emankcinsubsume, yep20:43
emankcinor boot from a dvd if you still have one of those (mine are collecting dust)20:44
cool_Hy ! I have Xubuntu installed, I want to duall boot with win10. I have 2 partiion ,  1 : system , 2 : logic,  I want to creat another 3rd with GPARTED for win10  and don't kill the GRUB . Someone can help me ?20:49
bekkscool_: where is grub installed?20:50
cool_Her is my gparted screen :20:51
cool_bekks I don't know  my gparted : http://hpics.li/d703aae20:52
alkisgcool_: windows will kill your grub, and you'll need to reinstall it after you install windows. It would be easier if you installed windows first, ubuntu later.20:53
alkisgresize sda1 to create an empty space right after it20:53
alkisgformat it as ntfs so that windows will get installed there20:53
cool_alkisg tha'ts what I was trying to do , but I could ot format the disk system only delet it, and I was wondering if it's the same "delet" or " format" a disk for my case when I just have xubuntu Installed20:54
alkisgcool_: to resize the disk, you need to boot from a live cd or usb20:54
alkisgNot while the disk is in used, booted20:54
alkisg*in use20:54
cool_alkisg how ? with gparted on Ubuntu live usb ?20:55
alkisgcool_: yes20:56
QueenslayerHi guys20:57
QueenslayerIs it wrong for me to ask how to change Ubuntu desktop to Mint?20:57
OerHeksQueenslayer, yes, we don't support that.20:58
QueenslayerK, cheers20:58
k1l_Queenslayer: we cant support that, obviously.20:58
OerHeksreinstall i guess, ask in the mint channel?20:58
QueenslayerOerHeks, nah, happy with Ubuntu20:59
QueenslayerJust need a change20:59
QueenslayerI thought Cinnamon has a good look to it.  I might try some other xfce21:00
QueenslayerLubuntu perhaps21:00
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alkisgQueenslayer: you can just install the cinnamon desktop, no need to reinstall with mint...21:00
Queenslayeralkisg, that's what I was wanting to know21:01
QueenslayerBut they say it's not allowed, so fair dos21:01
k1l_yep. ubuntu ships cinnamon, mate, xfce, lxde, kde, unity,.......21:01
k1l_Queenslayer: cinnamon is desktop enviroment. not a mint exclusive21:02
alkisgQueenslayer: mint is not a desktop environment, it's a distro, while cinnamon is a desktop environment, you confused people with the way you asked the question...21:02
QueenslayerOh, apologies21:03
QueenslayerThat is what I meant to say21:03
k1l_!info cinnamon-desktop-environment21:03
ubottucinnamon-desktop-environment (source: cinnamon-desktop-environment): Cinnamon desktop environment - full desktop with extra components. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.8.0 (xenial), package size 2 kB, installed size 10 kB21:03
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cool_alksing I have to use free space following ?21:10
cool_on gparted21:10
alkisgcool_: yes it's better to put free space following, some times gparted chokes when resizing the start of an ext* partition21:11
Queenslayerthanks killtheliterate21:15
emankcinQueenslayer, You can certainly try an install of Mint, if you like. I quite like it.21:18
QueenslayerI like it too21:18
QueenslayerBut I've got Ubuntu working well on older hardware and want to try out the Cinnamon desktop21:19
emankcinQueenslayer, I basically switched over to Debian/Mint when Unity became default.21:19
QueenslayerI've got it downloading as I type21:19
OerHeksone cannot use mint professionally, and mint is offtopic here21:19
QueenslayerYeah, Unity is a let down compared with distros like Mint21:19
QueenslayerYeah it's strictly desktop is Mint21:20
k1l_Queenslayer: emankcin ok, enough mint advertising now.21:20
emankcinQueenslayer, That'll be a good way to try out the interface. I have a feeling cinnamon isn't the smallest package to download.21:20
Queenslayeremankcin, I already have it, but as k1l_ said....21:21
QueenslayerThanks k1l_21:21
Queenslayerk1l_, I've installed it from synaptic but how to activate it?21:22
k1l_Queenslayer: logout. then choose on the login screen21:22
Queenslayerk1l_, star man!21:23
emankcinSeems odd to me that a community founded on freedom of choice would be so restrictive on discussion of different options. After all, Mint is based on Ubuntu and contributes accordingly to its popularity as an OS21:23
k1l_emankcin: unity is the standard desktop on the ubuntu iso. the repos do have a lot of other desktops and even install isos with different desktops on it.21:23
emankcinI mentioned Debian, as well, but was not reprimanded for it.21:23
tgm4883emankcin: this is the ubuntu support channel and thus is restricted to ubuntu support. There is a #ubuntu-offtopic channel for chat21:24
k1l_!mint > emankcin21:24
ubottuemankcin, please see my private message21:24
OerHeksemankcin, time to join #ubuntu-offtopic but i think you won't get much responce there about mint :-D21:24
emankcinOerHeks, I have no doubt about that after seeing these responses.21:26
OerHekselky, dax ...21:26
OerHekswb elky dax21:27
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jordan36262hi guys i need help with gedit21:40
jordan36262im trying to change the color of the blinking coursor21:40
jordan36262is that possible?21:40
jordan36262(i have a black theme and i cant see it thats why i wanna change it from black to white21:41
QueenslayerThanks k1l_21:45
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subsumewhile i am setting up dual boot, is there a way to complete turn off the boot loader?22:10
subsumei want to boot into ubuntu manually only, i never want to be prompted22:10
GnomeKrisSo I read somewhere that people upgrading to 16.04.1 from 14.04.4 are having an issue where the pc wont boot after the upgrade...What kind of merit does this rumor hold?22:10
GnomeKrisI'd provide a link, but I was on my phone on reddit the other day, and can't find the post now.22:11
subsumei have never "dist upgraded" in my life because what you describe is completely unavoidable in some cases22:11
subsumei can't even imagine how you could dist upgrade without some risk to that always happening22:11
ubottuThe automatic LTS upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04 was scheduled when 16.04.1 LTS was released on July 21st, but has been postponed for one week due to final bug testing.22:11
OerHeksGnomeKris, wait for the fixes to be tested22:12
Bashing-om!grub | subsume Sure, doable:22:12
ubottusubsume Sure, doable:: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub222:12
subsumeBashing-om: i have windows installed already and am looking to put ubuntu alongside. i was hoping to just not use grub at all and leave the windows boot loader in place22:12
GnomeKrisSo my best bet if I don't want to wait for fixes would be to backup my files, and do a clean wipe install?22:12
GnomeKrisOerHeks ^^22:12
OerHeksGnomeKris, yes, fresh install works fine, i did.22:13
GnomeKrisThat's what I'll do then. I was planning on moving my /home to a secondary drive anyway. This'll give me the chance to do that.22:13
Bashing-omsubsume: Well .. while Ubuntu will load Windows .. Windows will not load ubuntu . Separate hard drives ?22:13
subsumeBashing-om: i created a 25GB partition on a secondary HD. /dev/sda/ is it but it also shows /dev/sda1 as the windows boot loader22:14
subsumei was thinking i could just put the boot loader not on /dev/sda but on /dev/sda5 where this 25GB partition lives22:15
subsumemy hope is that basically grub just won't come into play in a "default" boot22:18
Bashing-omsubsume: Not the way a bootloader generally works . The firmware perfers to hand off to the boot code to a particular address .//olet's look now at what is .. pastebin22:20
Bashing-om sudo parted-l ' .22:21
subsumei guess i was looking at this http://askubuntu.com/questions/561254/install-ubuntu-14-04-1-lts-without-losing-windows-7-bootloader22:22
Bashing-omsubsume: :ook22:23
subsumebasically i just want a less disruptive method to install22:23
Bashing-omsubsume: Look'n at the link .22:23
subsumei was thinking if i just installed grub on the same partition that might suffice22:24
subsumesince it has a bootloader it just has to be selected later22:25
subsumemaybe i could install the ubuntu ISO to this partition instead, and then boot from that partition, and install instead to the USB (rather than putting the ISO on a USB and then trying to install to a drive)22:26
subsumei don't really get why i need a boot loader at all, given that i can boot from the USB just fine without one22:27
subsumeit always struck me as somewhat invasive in dual-boot setups22:27
Bashing-omsubsume: Not the best solution: sharing /boot is more complex and generally not a good idea, especially as Ubuntu defaults to using no separate boot partition. A separate /boot is something of an anachronism, dating back to limited PC BIOSes that could only handle small disks, so the boot files had to be at the start of the disk.22:28
subsumemaybe this is still up to date https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217613222:29
Bashing-omsubsume: https://iam.tj/kb/pc/boot/#a_bootloader :- great explanation of what the bootloader does .22:30
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Bashing-om!dualboot | subsume22:31
ubottusubsume: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Windows - Macs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot22:31
subsumeyeah i can't find a dual boot instruction that doesn't involve replacing the windows boot loader22:32
xanguaYeah, windows bootloader can only boot windows22:33
Bashing-omsubsume: If this is a UEFI system .. then the Windows' boot code is not touched when Ubuntu's code is added to the list ..22:33
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OerHeksi hope it is not wubi ...22:34
subsumeBashing-om: it is22:34
subsumeat least i suspect it is22:34
ubottuUEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI22:34
subsumewhen i hit F11 on startup the default seems to be UEFI: Built-in EFI Shell22:35
Bashing-omsubsume: Then yes looks UEFI .. and installed properly the ubuntu bootcode is added to the /boot directory .22:37
Bashing-omsubsume: EriC^^ here is our guru of dualbooting windows UEFI .22:38
subsumewell i got a prompt about that while installing22:38
subsumeand it wasn't a very comforting prompt22:38
subsume"machines firmware started UEFI but looks like there may be an existing operating system installed using BIOS compatibility mode, it might be difficult to reboot into BIOS mode systems later"22:39
subsumemaybe that system is some kind of windows recovery disk22:39
Bashing-omsubsume: I am no longer Windows literate, and I have yet to boot a UEFI system .. so I am about as much in the dark as you . Let's see if EriC^^ is available .22:40
subsumeah okay i wonder if he's around22:40
Bashing-omsubsume: pinged EriC^^ see if he is around . :)22:42
subsumeokay cool, thanks22:42
SkrewtapeHey folks, I'm having some trouble with my ubuntu server locking up, I hope somebody here can give me some pointers as to what might be the problem22:43
subsumeout of ram?22:43
solarbirdHi! Ubuntu 16.04 with Gnome 3 here. There are a bunch of client tasks like evolution-calendar-factory and addressbook-factory that are loaded and I will never use either on this machine, as it is a dedicated task machine. Can I disable these safely, and how?22:43
SkrewtapeWhenever I do a large amount of disk writes, eventually the system locks up.   It looks like the ext4 module in the kernel is crashing, which prevents anything that needs to do any disk access from running22:43
subsumesolarbird: its a dedicated task machine but what did you install, the desktop version?22:43
SkrewtapeThe only recovery I can do is to hard power cycle the machine22:44
SkrewtapeThis is 16.0422:44
subsumeSkrewtape: do you have some kind of log output22:44
SkrewtapeThe syslog output looks like this22:44
solarbirdsubsume: the 'dedicated task' is 'my digital audio workstation.' so i actually do need a desktop.22:44
solarbirdsubsume: but i have other machines entirely for things like office tasks. and i need as little running as I can, at all times.22:44
subsumei guess when i think of dedicated task machine i think of like, a web worker or a celery node22:45
Bashing-om!info evolution-calendar-factory22:45
ubottuPackage evolution-calendar-factory does not exist in xenial22:45
SkrewtapeLooks like ext4 is dying when it goes to write in-memory cache to disk, but I'm pretty out of my depth at this point22:45
toxiklong live ZFS22:46
solarbirdSkrewtape: things like "dying when going to write cache to disk" smells like "impending disk failure" to me22:46
SkrewtapeIt can write many gigs of data to the disk before things go wrong, and reads never fail22:46
solarbirdubottu: fair enough, but it is nonetheless running.22:46
SkrewtapeAlso I see the same behavior on two different drives22:47
subsumesolarbird: that's not a human22:47
solarbirdoh sorry HI BOT ^_^22:47
solarbirdskrewtape: fffft. foo. (i was going to suggest something about checking drive temperatuers with smartctl but if it's two drives, that just got a _lot_ less likely)22:48
SkrewtapeYeah, hardware failure was my first thought too22:48
Bashing-omsolarbird: Near as I can tell those are 3rd party apps ..so yeah .. one should be able to remove them without affecting the operating system . How to remove depends on how they were installed .22:51
DoYouKnowHi, I clicked install 3rd party software in setup, but I've been waiting for some time with the spinning mouse cursor22:52
DoYouKnowwhat should I do? I'm worried that if I don't, I won't be able to boot into ubuntu with my wifi hardware22:53
solarbirdBashing-om: gnome3 tries to uninstall itself if I try to remove evolution-data-server and I kind of need it :/22:53
solarbird(Well, apt tries to remove gnome XD )22:53
solarbird(I tell it no)22:53
toxikYou shouldn't need 3rd party software for WiFi22:54
solarbirdI found some commentary online saying 'just remove the executable flag' and yeah I can do that but I was hoping there was a less blunt-force solution22:54
solarbird(and if I try to remove things like just the library package, the change set is HILARIOUS and it's triggering things FAR FAR FAR up the tree22:56
Bashing-omsolarbird: Yeah .. looks deep ' apt-cache rdepends evolution-data-server ' . How does evolution-calendar-factory and addressbook-factory play into this ?22:57
skinuxIs Ubuntu very friendly to those that do heavy customizations of Window Manager, Desktop Environment, that sort of thing?22:58
Bashing-omskinux: I find xfce much more customizable .22:58
rdhskinux, just as friendly as others.22:59
solarbirdbashing-om: well, evolution-calendar-factory and evolution-addressbook-factory are part of that package afaict22:59
solarbirdbashing-om: gnome3 seems to depend upon evolution-data-server for something other than the evolution organiser but idk what.23:00
SkrewtapeLooks like I got some bad RAM23:01
Bashing-omsolarbird: I do not know, as I can not find it " apt-cache search evolution-addressbook-factory " >> null return .23:01
SkrewtapeIt occurred to me to run memtest and it's red all over the place23:01
solarbirdbashing-om: it's not a package, it's a tool included in a package, it lives in /usr/lib/evolution23:02
solarbird(once installed)23:02
solarbirdskrewtape: o that's bad23:02
smpl27dicks out for harambe23:02
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Bashing-omsolarbird: Obviosly out of my depth .. I step aside for others to step in here .23:03
jonfeni am trying to setup 2 monitors and a laptop screen in LXDE using arandr, and then tried using the xrandr command, but it isn't working.  specifically i have a 1200 wide monitor next to a 1280 wide laptop, and another 1200 wide monitor.  xrandr throws an error when i try to set the pos of the last monitor to x=320023:05
Miharuso,I want to install ubuntu, but I have some complications?23:05
toxikMiharu: What's up? We're here to help!23:06
Miharufollowing the tecmint.com to dual boot ubuntu and win10,23:06
jaker1is there a way I could prevent users/certain processes from being able to pull detailed hardware info like HD/mobo serial numbers & bios version etc? (Or have dummy info returned)23:07
MiharuI've made disk management create an unallocated drive.23:07
Miharunow I'm installing ubuntu, at the third steps.23:07
Miharuthird step, I mean23:07
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MiharuI checked Download updates, install third party software, and turn off secure boot23:08
jonfenMiharu: what is the issue?23:08
Miharuthen I clicked 'continue' button23:08
Miharuunmount partitions that are in use?23:09
Miharuthat is what I'm afraid here.23:09
jonfenMiharu: do you have anything that isn't backed up on the Windows 10 install?23:10
jonfenor is it fresh?23:10
MiharuYes. Some of them is unable to be backed up.23:11
Miharu99.7 or so percent is backed up, anyway.23:11
solarbirdhmmmm okay setting the files to not-executable was Not A Good Solution, _but_ it did give me a service name!23:11
solarbirdsudo service org.gnome.Shell.CalendarServer stop23:11
jonfenwell, i would try to backup the .3, that way you aren't worried23:12
solarbirdso. what's a good way to make a service stop automatically at login?23:12
Miharuother than copy it manually?23:12
solarbirdMiharu: do you have a spare drive? you could image the current disc completely with dd (off a live boot DVD) and have a perfect image as a worst-case backup23:14
jonfenMiharu: I just did a fresh windows 10 install, but left 100 GB or so when I created the drives (but didn't format) in the windows setup, then i installed ubuntu, and it was clear which partition i wanted to use.  the last step was screwing with the bios to boot to the ubuntu partition first (which let me select the windows boot option as well)23:15
jonfenMiharu: but you shouldn't be partitioning / formatting drives if you are worried you might lose something you don't have backed up.23:15
MiharuUnfeasible as of right now? the last backup to my external HD had left me around 300GB space23:15
OerHekssystemctl disable name.service  (for systemD)23:16
OerHekssolarbird, ^^23:16
jonfen300GB is dirt cheap on cloud storage options.23:16
Miharuso... the installer has detected that the following disks have mounted partitions: /dev/sda23:16
solarbirdOerHeks: Oh! That's persistent across restarts? Thanks!23:16
MiharuJonfen: I'm not exactly have data plan for that?23:17
OerHeksto enable again > systemctl enable name.service23:17
MiharuI don't exactly have, I mean23:17
jonfenMiharu: when you created unpartitioned space, did you repartition the windows drive?23:18
Miharuexact steps like http://www.tecmint.com/install-ubuntu-16-04-alongside-with-windows-10-or-8-in-dual-boot/23:18
Sebastie1finally running ubuntu again :D23:19
Miharuif you mean by repartition is shrinking the windows 10 partition, then yes.23:19
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solarbirdOerHeks: hrm, seems to be a service started by gnome, systemctl doesn't know about it23:20
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Miharuso... failed to unmount partitions23:31
MiharuThe installer needs to commit changes to partition tables, but cannot do so because partitions on the following mount points could not be unmounted:  /media/ubuntu/New\ VolumeVolume  Please close any applications using these mount points.  Would you like the installer to try to unmount these partitions again?23:32
MiharuI cannot either press 'Go Back', 'Continue', or 'X'23:33
Miharuany help?23:33
leagrisSting, ?23:35
leagrisWhy are you DCC to me?23:35
solarbirdMiharu: hm23:36
TheNH813Is there a specific place to ask for help getting a game running?23:36
solarbirdMiharu: did you try to install from a downloaded installer that you put on the drive itself?23:37
bazhangTheNH813, native steam or wine23:37
OerHeksThedepends, what game, for wine?23:37
TheNH813Native Java23:37
TheNH813No steam of Wine23:37
TheNH813Playing Runescape.23:38
MiharuSolarbird: huh? I make bootable disk on my Flash drive?23:38
bazhangwhats the game TheNH81323:38
TheNH813It crashes like every few minutes. Can't even get it to load with Oracle Java. Openjdk7 seems to work.23:38
Miharuthen I just boot into that flash drive23:38
bazhangTheNH813, how did you get that running on linux23:38
TheNH813Runescape Linux laucnher23:38
TheNH813For Linux and other UNIX systems.23:39
TheNH813I'l see if I cna grab soem debug messages.23:39
OerHeksTheNH813, how did you install it?23:40
TheNH813Downloaded the perl script.23:40
TheNH813In a archive from github23:40
solarbirdMiharu: okay good23:41
OerHeksTheNH813, 32 bit?23:41
OerHekstheir site gives a 64 bit client https://www.runescape.com/download?client=notinstalled23:42
TheNH813That client only works on 14.0423:42
solarbirdMiharu: I don't know, i ran into something like this with 16.04 too and swore a lot and ended up doing a clean install23:42
TheNH813You have to use the community supported UNIX client for all other configurations23:42
Miharuthe installer is unresponsive, so do I force close it?23:42
TheNH813I'm on 64 bit23:42
solarbirdMiharu: that is like the worst answer and i am sorry but yes i think you have to23:42
solarbirdMiharu: that's what i had to do :(23:42
Miharuhow do I do it here?23:43
solarbirdMiharu: i had to reboot my machine it was terrible23:43
OerHeksTheNH813, if you replace trusty with xenial, it does not work??23:43
OerHekselse a well known runescape client ppa is https://launchpad.net/~hikariknight/+archive/ubuntu/unix-runescape-client23:43
TheNH813Does nto work. No package indexes forund.23:43
TheNH813Will try that23:44
TheNH813Also tried the Win client in WINE, but that's even worse.23:44
OerHekswith openJDK or the oracle binairy blob?23:44
TheNH813OpenJDK works, oracle's java dosen't wven load23:44
TheNH813The opposite of usual. :P23:44
OerHekswell, the ppa gives a recent update 2016-7-823:45
TheNH813I'l give the PPA a try23:45
ctesiphonsorry to interrupt: if I'm trying to benchmark a ton of different data structures, all of which have a method called `lookup`, do I really need to paste, for example, Data.Map.Lazy.lookup, Data.Map.Strict.lookup, etc every single time, or is there a way to avoid this? (I'm using the criterion package)23:46
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TheNH813HEY! The PPA pulled in some PERL modules manually running the script likely missed.23:47
TheNH813Maybe that's my problem23:47
TheNH813Well, it hasn't crashed yet.23:49
TheNH813Yeah I think it's fixed. :D23:50
haunyedza up23:54
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toxikYou know, I'm absolutely in love with snaps.23:59
Kyokuwill ubuntu support my new pc config http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/21076711/ ?23:59

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