* clivejo punches the air00:07
clivejocowabunga dudes!00:07
tsimonq2clivejo: totally rad man :D00:08
clivejovalorie: you still got yakkety test?00:08
valorieI do00:09
valoriesomething you would like tested?00:09
clivejoand you enable staging-plasma and staging-kdeapplications and do an install test00:09
clivejoI know anout plasma-discover, that is broken for now, but looking for any other issues00:10
valorieI did that last week00:10
valorieis there new stuff in there?00:10
clivejoapps too?00:10
valorieI believe so, yes00:10
valorieyou reminded me to remove them before I quit00:11
valoriewhich I obediently did00:11
valorieI installed a random game, and played it00:11
valorieit made me feel more confident about upgrading this computer00:12
valoriealthough I've not done it yet00:12
mamarleyclivejo: I noticed that the "libkf5baloowidgets-bin" and "libkf5baloowidgets5" packages in staging for Yakkety do not have an epoch while the ones in the official archive do.  This makes APT want to downgrade the package.00:18
clivejo!info libkf5baloowidgets-bin00:20
ubottulibkf5baloowidgets-bin (source: baloo-widgets): Wigets for use with Baloo - binaries. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:15.12.3-0ubuntu1 (yakkety), package size 10 kB, installed size 33 kB00:20
* clivejo cries00:20
* mamarley gives clivejo a tissue.00:21
clivejoDebian got rid of it when baloo-widget -> baloo-widgets500:24
clivejobut our source is still baloo-widgets00:24
clivejoyofel needs to look at this00:24
clivejoI dont think that epoch can be removed now :(00:25
clivejoanyways I need to get to bed00:26
clivejohopefully Phil will pick it up in the morning00:26
clivejoFFS if its not LP messing up its KDE git00:27
tsimonq2wow, lots of work on qtwebchannel today, clivejo, tomorrow I really need your help fixing Cantor, I can't figure it out, but otherwise I'm off to bed o/00:43
Mirvit looks like kwallet-kf5 has a real test problem on powerpc and s390x, could you upload maybe one where the blowfish tests are disabled for those architectures? it blocks other packages in landing-04106:50
MirvI tried rebuilding them once already06:52
Mirvor I could do that but I'd welcome a permission to do so :)06:53
yofelMirv: how does one disable tests on selective architectures? #if DEB_HOST_MULTIARCH ..?07:51
yofelreally, if you know how to do this, please go ahead07:51
Mirvyofel: yeah, like that. ok, I'll do an upload.07:52
Mirva test upload first, if that works a real one07:55
viphi ho07:58
Mirvworked, required a slight modification to how I've done things in the pass, probably due to kde packaging automation08:43
IrcsomeBot<Clifford> Yofel did you see conversation about baloo widgets?08:49
acheronukI decided this morning, what the hell: http://i.imgur.com/OLak88v.png08:52
IrcsomeBot<Clifford> Any problems ?08:55
acheronukvery few. One "wants to overwrite" error.08:57
acheronukI don't have discover, so didn't hit that08:57
acheronukdid that the manual way swapping out sources lists and then dist-upgrade, so I could go straight to the ppa packages and latest nvidia driver in one shot09:03
clivejonice catch09:12
clivejo!info libkface-data09:13
ubottulibkface-data (source: libkface): face recognition and detection library. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:15.08.2-0ubuntu1 (yakkety), package size 6728 kB, installed size 32032 kB09:13
clivejo!info libkf5kface-data09:14
ubottulibkf5kface-data (source: libkf5kface): face recognition and detection library. In component universe, is optional. Version 15.12.1-0ubuntu1 (yakkety), package size 6679 kB, installed size 32031 kB09:14
* acheronuk checks for his ppas that have YY builds09:15
clivejoacheronuk: would you have time to add a break/replaces?09:17
clivejoabout top go out the door09:17
acheronukprobably not until later09:18
santa_good morning everyone09:45
Mirvhttps://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-041/+packages is now ready for amd64 (powerpc and s390x catching up slowly) - could you see what else would be needed before landing the silo to yakkety-proposed to help with Qt 5.6 migration?11:14
BluesKaj'Morning folks11:43
clivejoyofel: the new mergers you setup seem to be working, but dont seem to be triggering builds12:17
clivejothey seem to need "Trigger build without parameters" box checked to trigger a build12:17
yofelhm, by I'm seeing "started by scm change" builds...12:26
clivejoI been checking the box myself12:35
clivejobut the new packages you added seem to not start automatically12:35
clivejoyofel: did you see that conversation about libkface?12:36
clivejo!info libkf5kface-data12:37
ubottulibkf5kface-data (source: libkf5kface): face recognition and detection library. In component universe, is optional. Version 15.12.1-0ubuntu1 (yakkety), package size 6679 kB, installed size 32031 kB12:37
clivejo!info libkf5kface-dev12:37
ubottulibkf5kface-dev (source: libkf5kface): face recognition and detection library - development files. In component universe, is optional. Version 15.12.1-0ubuntu1 (yakkety), package size 10 kB, installed size 59 kB12:37
clivejowrong *beeping* package12:38
clivejo!info libkf5baloowidgets-bin12:38
ubottulibkf5baloowidgets-bin (source: baloo-widgets): Wigets for use with Baloo - binaries. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:15.12.3-0ubuntu1 (yakkety), package size 10 kB, installed size 33 kB12:38
* clivejo needs to take more detailed notes12:39
clivejothat epoch is in the archive now, so we cant remove it :(12:40
clivejoDebian removed it on the KF5 switch over12:40
clivejowe didnt and applied the epoch to the new kf5 packages 12:45
clivejoseems to been at the time when I was learning how to use the staging-upload script12:47
clivejorememer when I messed up the version numbers12:48
Mirvit's starting to look it was only that kwallet-kf5 that needed powerpc tests disablement. the PPA is almost fully built now for also powerpc and s390x.12:52
Mirvlet me know what's next, does it need some non-frameworks uploads to go with it or should it be copied to yakkety-proposed eg tomorrow morning12:55
clivejoIm guessing Qt5WebEngineConfig.cmake is what tsimonq2 is working on13:11
yofel!info baloo-widgets stable13:25
ubottuPackage baloo-widgets does not exist in stable13:25
yofel!info baloo-widgets jessie13:25
ubottu'jessie' is not a valid distribution: kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, partner, precise, precise-backports, precise-proposed, stable, testing, trusty, trusty-backports, trusty-proposed, unstable, utopic, utopic-backports, utopic-proposed, vivid, vivid-backports, vivid-proposed, wily, wily-backports, wily-proposed, xenial, xenial-backports, xenial-proposed, yakkety, yakkety-backports, yakkety-proposed13:25
yofeldangit XD13:25
yofelclivejo: so, "baloo-widgets" has an epoch in debian as well, they renamed it to baloo-widgets5 and dropped it13:26
yofelclivejo: we should IMO do the same13:26
clivejoyes, the source13:27
clivejobut the kf5 packages have been released with an epoch13:27
yofeloh, now I see13:34
yofelclivejo: ok, you're right13:34
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yofelclivejo: got an example project that did not trigger a build when it should?13:41
clivejono, been fixing them as I need them13:42
clivejojust noticed it was the newly added ones13:42
yofelhm, ok, I'll look at the templates later13:42
yofelMirv: I believe there are some plasma pieces stuck in proposed too, I'll check that in ~4-5h when I'm home. Preferably I would like to get 5.7 in as well, as we would then be ok for a while regarding our yakket work - but I'm not sure if it's strickly necessary right now13:45
clivejoyofel: can error like that epoch be fixed?13:53
clivejoby a meta package or something13:54
clivejoor will dpkg just throw a fit13:54
yofelclivejo: you can "fix" it by a) renaming the package, b) /increasing the epoch/ (uh well, yeah, fix)13:55
clivejoyou can do it by breaks/replaces?13:56
yofelno, you cannot force dpkg to downgrade a package from packaging13:56
yofelso no, there is no way to fix this and stay compatible with debian13:57
clivejodidnt think so, otherwise youd have done it before13:57
clivejobut just curious13:57
yofelyeah :(13:57
clivejodid you look at libprison13:57
yofelno, other priorities13:57
clivejono prob13:58
yofelI would get 5.7 into the archive with that intentional regression, then fix that in a follow up upload13:58
yofelas prison requires another transition13:58
clivejodid upstream reply to your message?13:59
yofelyes, rejected. So we did the most resonable thing we could14:01
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Mirvyofel: ok!14:27
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> mm14:31
blazehttps://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-011/+packages what's dat?14:35
soeesomeone tried to compile/install Pulseaudio 9 on Xenial?14:53
mamarleysoee: ppa:mamarley/updates14:56
soeemamarley: are you using it ?14:57
mamarleysoee: I have it installed on several systems and it works, yes.14:58
soeemamarley: installing it now :)15:00
soeebrb reboot15:00
soeemamarley: alsa* stuff is somehow related/required also ?15:02
mamarleysoee: Yeah, I also have ALSA updates in that repository, so the PulseAudio package may depend on those versions as well.15:09
soeemamarley: so better to update both ?15:09
mamarleyI don't know, all the systems on which I use those packages just use the whole PPA.15:10
soeemamarley: nice ppa - as always :) thanks! now i have my hdmi sound working fine15:17
mamarleyOh yeah, that's something I forgot to mention.  Make sure you install the pulseaudio-module-udev package or your HDMI sound may not work.15:17
soeeit is not marked as a dependency ?15:18
mamarleyNope (and this isn't my doing, my package is exactly the same as the one from Yakkety.)15:18
soeemamarley: basically my only issue with hdmi sound was it was that output randomly changed to analog/laptop speekers15:19
soeeand it was fixed in 9.0 while Xenial has 8.015:19
mamarleyIf it is working for you, then you should be fine.15:19
soeesomeone can recommend not to expensive but good 2.0 speakers ?16:01
BluesKajoops , wrong paul i think17:26
mamarleyclivejo: With Plasma 5.7.2 on Yakkety, do you have a problem where the shadow on the panel does not display when plasma starts after you log in?17:52
acheronukmamarley: do you have transparency on login when that happens?18:06
mamarleyacheronuk: The window shadows look normal, but there is no transparency in any of the Plasma elements.18:06
ubottuKDE bug 362531 in Panel "Plasma panels are not transparent after login" [Normal,Confirmed]18:07
acheronukI'm getting that ^^^18:07
mamarleyacheronuk: Ah, thanks!  I searched the bugtracker, but couldn't find this one.18:07
acheronukrestarting plasa or kwin (can't recall which one) sorted it.18:08
mamarleyIt is plasma.  I discovered that workaround already.18:09
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jimarvanHI GUYS :D20:24
jimarvanhow is everyone? :)20:24
yofeltsimonq2: what's the story behind https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/plasma-workspace/commit/?h=kubuntu_yakkety_archive&id=72eb931a85c834b9a5a83e937ac29d7493dcdc9120:24
yofelthat makes it uninstallable20:24
jimarvanany news about 5.7.2?20:26
clivejoyofel: its the new holidays feature in Plasma 5.720:35
clivejobut its part of apps :(20:36
clivejohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9MtFqkRFwQ 1:0020:37
yofelthen that's a recommends20:48
* yofel fixes20:48
clivejohow do you tell the difference?20:49
yofelplasma may not depend on apps :P20:49
yofelat least not in our workflow20:50
clivejoso if that package was a plasma release, a depends would be ok?20:51
yofelwell the guideline is -> depends: application does nothing useful without that package, recommends: installed in all but unusual configurations20:53
yofelso... don't add too many deps20:53
clivejoI see20:54
clivejosorry, I told him to add it as a depend20:54
yofelnp, that's why I asked where that came from20:54
clivejoHe was testing it on his own install and noticed it20:54
clivejowanted to report it as a bug, so I asked him to install that package and it fixed it so told him to request a merge20:55
clivejowhat do we have to do to revert kdeconnect back to its original name?20:57
clivejois it in your seed list thingie ma bob20:57
jimarvanfinally vacations coming ladies and gentlemen21:26
jimarvanafter 10 months of continuous work... :D21:26
clivejohow long you off for?21:29
jimarvando not know yet21:34
jimarvandepends if I return with my car or not21:34
jimarvan16-31 August is the plan21:35
jimarvanwhich means finally some free time for kubuntu studying! :)21:35
clivejoanyone tried wayland on YY?21:59
IrcsomeBot<marcinsagol> Microsoft will now force you to use its favorite Windows 10 feature, whether you like it or not (MSFT)22:06
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IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> I used it a few times22:07
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> Got me into Mycroft AI22:07
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> :D22:07
IrcsomeBot<marcinsagol> Still forcing users to use it is a crap22:08
IrcsomeBot<marcinsagol> Even when nod signed in it will send anonymous data22:08
tsimonq2yofel: I was told that it should go where it went in that commit, I thought it should be a depends of the package that specifically handles setting/unsetting holidays, but I was isntructed to set it where it is in that commit22:08
tsimonq2yofel: in fact, I *wanted* to fix it so that if it doesn't detect the holidays package, it displays a less ugly error than it did22:09
tsimonq2yofel: it's clivejo's fault :P22:10
tsimonq2and o/ everyone22:10
* genii gets clivejo more Jamesons22:11
clivejoyou'll get me tipsy!22:11
tsimonq2clivejo: and re: "Im guessing Qt5WebEngineConfig.cmake is what tsimonq2 is working on" yep, some coordination is happening on pkg-kde-talk and some on #debian-qt-kde on OFTC22:12
yofeltsimonq2: right, see my discussion with clive after that. We do need to eventually improve our qml dep handling22:12
tsimonq2yofel: ok22:12
clivejomy mistake \o/22:12
tsimonq2yofel: you still want the fix I suggested? :)22:12
clivejodont shoot22:12
tsimonq2yofel: or should I upstream it?22:13
yofelupstream preferably22:13
tsimonq2yofel: where do I file a bug so I can assign myself to it? :D22:13
yofelhm, regarding upstream, ask in #plasma first. You can file a bug, but you wouldn't be able to assign yourself to it22:14
tsimonq2yofel: on freenode?22:15
yofelquestion is whether they actually want that improved, or if they have somethign in mind themselves22:15
tsimonq2alright :)22:16
jimarvanhave a good sleep guys22:27
jimarvantalk to you tomorrow :022:27
tsimonq2o/ jimarvan 22:27

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