[00:00] i think i can take some RAM out of the one i got today and turn the 6GB RAM core 2 quad into an 8GB RAM core 2 quad \o/ [00:07] OerHeks: Any incinative, I run dual core athlons on 4 gigs of ram .. does well . [00:18] i putted in an ancient nvidia 250 [00:19] well, not that ancient, but it is a big card, http://dragoncomputing.co.uk/estore/images/products/1015394081.jpg [00:19] and it works .. now i forgot my password n that testmachine :-D [00:20] good, now i have something to play with. [00:21] Bashing-om, i would still work on this self-build machine, if i didn't got that i3 from my neighbour, he wanted to dump [00:28] one of the machines won't even POST now :) time for bed at that i think! g'night all :) [00:32] :-) [05:22] I am done ,,, see yall . [05:31] morning guys [05:53] heya lotuspsychje [05:53] hey OerHeks how are you? [05:54] good, and you, hard working person? [05:54] yes, very [05:54] but its good to earn some $$ [05:55] the benefits of doing overtime hours :p [05:55] :-) [05:55] website is building slowly.. [05:56] my admin has alot of work [06:30] \o morning! [06:33] morning ducasse [06:36] going to work today? [06:36] yep [06:36] late shift [06:36] good, and you still like the job? [06:36] but 4 days off this week, good news [06:37] yeah sure, it will be perfect to combine with my business [06:37] how so? [06:37] now its summer season and doing 38h/week [06:38] in september it will drop down to 20H/week [06:38] so ill have more time to work the ubuntu shop [06:38] ahh, i see. when do you think your shop will open? [06:39] well ive started already, but alot of paperwork still [06:39] and website is building slowly [06:39] are you open for business already? [06:39] i can only start advertise when website is ready [06:39] officially yes [06:41] so not aiming for a career as a chef? :) [06:41] ill combine them as long as possible [06:42] its a sideway business, so less change of bankrupt [06:42] chance [06:43] right. i saw the website you posted a link to, looking good imo. [06:43] yeah its just a default game theme for now [06:43] alot of work needed [06:43] hi ducasse [06:43] will you also be selling ubuntu phones/tablets? [06:43] morning, OerHeks [06:43] yes, a website design costs time .. [06:43] yeah ill try ducasse , but i cand find the bq 4.5 online anymore [06:44] ill try to re-sell the m10 tablet aswell [06:45] me neither, i've been thinking of swapping out my android.. [06:45] bq 4.5 and 5 and meizu 5 are all out of stock, meizu 6 will be announced soon i think [06:45] ashame...why they let it run out of stock when so popular.. [06:46] I think sales are disappointing .. [06:46] hmm [06:46] must be really tough to break through on mobile... [06:47] well ill try to change that [06:48] bbl [08:03] ducasse, how would you like your troll, in the morning ? grinn [08:08] $deity, this guy is something else... [08:09] /home/Sync+ .. never knew a + was allowed in /home/username [08:09] hmm, i thought it was limited to alphanum... [08:10] yes, i was just checking .. https://paulgorman.org/technical/presentations/linux_username_conventions.pdf [08:10] underscore and - and $ can be used too [08:11] $? that's a bit surprising, actually. [08:11] not that i ever imagine using it :) [08:11] yes, for me too, only at the end or in between, AFAIK [08:12] the first char has to be a-z, or is that no longer true? [08:13] even --force-badname cannot allow the + [08:14] yes, i think so [08:16] hehe - "if you don't understand it, don't bother" :) [11:43] 'Morning folks === BluesKaj is now known as Bluesaway === Bluesaway is now known as BluesKaj === JanC is now known as Guest24709 === JanC_ is now known as JanC === pavlushka_ is now known as Guest91131 === Guest91131 is now known as pavlushka [18:42] "i read somewhere on the internet that..." [18:42] :D [18:42] yeah .. [18:43] we get this one in a UK channel that finds links to disprove you no matter what you say, even if they're 2 year old articles [18:43] why don't people check their sources? [18:43] worse still, it's a Mint user that refuses to go to the Mint server [18:43] i am having fun man.. reading tortib in #debian [18:43] claiming using debian :-D [18:43] i think i remember him/her :) [18:44] Yes he has been with us all week [18:44] what's he really using? [18:44] dunno, hanging in elementary and mint channel too, no sign of him there [18:45] o0 [18:45] actually, he is a little more polite with us than in #debian [18:45] the mint crowd should support their own users :( if they think ubuntu is identical, why not use that? [18:48] this one claimed they don't answer, so i guess it just lacks a community [18:49] odd, wasn't mint recently #1 on distrowatch for quite some time? [18:50] distrowatch .. nice info, but statistics are not saying anything [18:51] i understand it's just an indication [18:52] best way to measure is the number of users in a channel, i think [18:52] but that could also be not true [18:53] OerHeks: possibly. i wonder how many of the users in #ubuntu are actually on a derivative, though. [18:53] heh, 50%i think [18:56] pesky liars! [18:57] the best anyone ever claimed was of benefit to be on Mint was the default codec situation, which they've now removed... [18:57] not removed, just one click [18:58] no no, Mint stopped bundling them in their install media because they don't want to do the testing anymore [18:58] oh, they get smarter [19:00] clever mint! [19:03] never saw a reason to switch to mint, perfectly happy with ubuntu. it's in many ways not a default install, i really like being able to install just what i need/want. [19:03] as we have mate too .. i understand [19:06] i frequently hear people criticize ubuntu because of unity, but that's not a good argument... [19:07] those same people do not complain if a newer windows changes a lot of stuf, they like it without seeing it. [19:07] but whow, if ubuntu makes a turn ... [19:09] it's odd, yes. they seem to accept anything from ms... [19:09] i dunno, 8 made a lot of changes and everyone was up in arms over it [19:11] sure, but look at the data gathering/"telemetry" thing - hardly anyone cares. [19:11] right, and do you know why? because look at the actual truth behind what that's doing compared with the sensational articles about it [19:12] were the articles about ubuntu and amazon searches not the same tinfoil hat wearing rubbish? yup [19:13] i never looked that much into it, but i did read the eulas that were published, they were kinda scary. i've no idea what they _actually_ gather, though. [19:13] i hear nobody about musicplayers looking for lyrics/artwork that can be recorded too. [19:13] :-D [19:13] or VLC stats [19:14] I was never a gnome fan or unity, KDE has always been my choice for a DE even on other distros [19:14] ducasse: thing was Microsoft's agreements are covering their online services now too, so a lot of it is a blanket thing to cover it all [19:15] i liked KDE too, but after some troubles i went back to unity, though gnome3 is awesome too, if you take your time to get used to it. this is universal i guess for all desktops [19:15] so just how gmail reads users email to provide targeted ads, so too can outlook.com - MS' free email service (new name for hotmail) so they write their agreements to cover reading your email there too [19:15] OerHeks, no doubt [19:16] daftykins: that could be, it was still scary reading :) [19:17] it is when taken out of context and sensationalised by today's clickbait journalism [19:17] i can't defend all of it though, not being able to turn all the telemetry off is a shame [19:18] but so far the things they've published have been about receiving system logs to see that a release day nvidia driver was causing problems, info on the apps people install from the MS store i think... [19:18] i think i prefer to just live life than go about paranoid [19:19] "are there any paranoids in the audience tonight? ... pathetic.." i love pink floyd [19:20] we still phone each other in our family, email is seldom used even tho everyone quite computer savvy [19:20] me too, daftykins, but i *do* read eulas before i accept them, and i'm wary of certain google products etc. personal choice, though, i fully understand that many don't care. [19:21] guy in another channel doesn't believe that Microsoft will stop 10 being free this Friday [19:21] i can see his point, but i don't think they'd make such a big deal about it ending :) [19:21] err today is the last day, isn't it? [19:21] W10 is fugly [19:22] we got spam all over from dutch sites [19:23] "are you sure not to upgrade?" and "what to do to get a 10 license in your account with microsoft" [19:23] daftykins: do you think i can upgrade a wine install to a full w10 licence? ;) [19:23] winetricks \o/ [19:24] ducasse, sure, burn the wine iso to dvd [19:24] * OerHeks ducks [19:24] wat [19:34] har har .. "we close this street, because there are too many pokemongo hunters .." [19:34] https://twitter.com/LPAntwerpen/status/758279964391268352 [19:34] :-D [19:35] oh my word [19:35] Bashing-om: wb \o [19:35] hey Bashing-om [19:36] Hey, hey .. what a day .. Let's see what happens in the IRC world . [19:36] >:D [20:03] is there anywhere new snap packages in the store are announced? [20:16] ducasse: A quick look: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2321161 ; http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2327088 I did not see anything but maybe you can glean a hint ? [20:21] Bashing-om: i'll read the rest of those tomorrow, thanks. it'd be nice if new snaps were announced somewhere, now we basically have to dig through 'snap find' now and then.