[06:00] <Marcel_> Hi, can somebodz please help me with the following question. I log into my ubuntu machine with xrdp and everything is working exept the language of the session. The language is always english but german is mz preferred language. How can i change this?
[06:01] <Marcel_> as you can see also the keyboard is in english.
[06:04] <madsa> Marcel_, do you have German installed in the language selector? and is it the selected language?
[06:04] <madsa> System -> Preferences -> Personal -> Language Support
[06:05] <Marcel_> yes german is the only language
[06:05] <Marcel_> but if i choose it and reboot the rdp session is always in english again
[06:15] <ouroumov> Marcel_, how long ago did you install the system?
[06:15] <madsa> Marcel_, looks like there is a bug regarding this: https://github.com/neutrinolabs/xrdp/pull/314
[06:15] <madsa> maybe the version of xrdp in ubuntu doesn't include the bug fix
[06:16] <Marcel_> Hm, i installed it last month and compiled xrdp from source.
[06:16] <Marcel_> but i dont know if it was the latest
[06:17] <madsa> yeah, you probably want the latest code off the devel branch
[06:18] <ouroumov> Marcel_, do you remember the language you used during the install (very first language choice, before the system ask you where you are located)?
[06:18] <Marcel_> it was german
[06:19] <ouroumov> Thanks
[06:20] <Marcel_> thank you too
[06:22]  * ouroumov forwards the thanks to madsa 
[07:18] <busmaster> Hello. I'm new to IRC and would like to contribute to Ubuntu-MATE development. Please provide some pointers
[07:28] <ouroumov> bello busmaster
[07:28] <ouroumov> hello *
[07:28] <busmaster> Hi
[07:29] <ouroumov> busmaster, I don't know if there's a specific IRC channel for UM devs, you'll have to ask flexiondotorg (Wimpy's nick on IRC)
[07:30] <ouroumov> There is a #mate-dev channel for MATE developers
[07:30] <busmaster> Ah alright. Thanks.
[07:31] <ouroumov> flexiondotorg is currently away (his nick is greyed out in the list on the right)
[07:33] <ouroumov> Just so you know busmaster, on IRC you have to be patient. Though many people are connected to the two channels there's no guaranty anyone is currently watching the IRC window or is even behind his keyboard.
[07:33] <ouroumov> So stay put for a while.
[10:51] <guest-hfipm0> hi any one want to say hello?xx:O)
[11:05] <alkisg> guest-hfipm0: hello?xx:O)
[11:17] <ouroumov_> alkisg, you're in the dev team?
[11:22] <alkisg> ouroumov_: err yes, but due to some misunderstanding - I'm only reporting bugs + sending patches for now, nothing more...
[11:23] <guest-hfipm0_> is this the cloud creatures lol.x
[11:28] <ouroumov_> alkisg, ok
[11:28] <ouroumov_> Was asking because someone came earlier asking for directions
[11:28] <ouroumov_> Wanted to contribute
[11:31] <alkisg> ouroumov_: I think flexiondotorg is the correct person to ask for that
[11:32]  * flexiondotorg looks around
[11:38] <ouroumov_> flexiondotorg, welcome back.
[11:38] <flexiondotorg> ouroumov_, o/
[11:38] <ouroumov_> I trusted you sampled German products to your satisfaction? :D
[11:39] <ouroumov_> trust*
[15:16] <Sebastien> is mate, smaller then the latest ubuntu ?
[15:17] <Sebastien> less "windows-like" ?
[16:53] <Guest348> anyone running 16.10 here?
[16:55] <Akuli> i'm running 14.04, is that close enough? :D
[16:56] <Guest348> I haven't run development versions in forever
[16:56] <Guest348> I think the last time i ran a dev version was when breezy was in development
[16:56] <Guest348> things have changed a bit
[16:56] <Guest348> that's ubuntu 5.10 btw
[16:59] <nomic> thts old (5.10)
[17:14] <mate|10162> 16.04
[17:15] <mate|10162> tried xubuntu 16.04 but had this annoying problem with the filemanager crashing on rename or move
[17:15] <mate|10162> also had that problem in 15.10
[17:15] <mate|10162> so changed to mate
[17:16] <Akuli> you could install mate's file manager in xfce also
[17:16] <Akuli> mate has been my favorite desktop for over a year now, but if you like xfce you can use it
[17:18] <mate|10162> they are essentially the same I think
[17:18] <mate|10162> there's one or two things which are better in one than the other
[17:19] <mate|10162> for example, xfce's desktop seems to be slightly more convenient to use when customizing where you want to put things like the widgets
[17:19] <mate|10162> or whatever you like to call them
[17:19] <Akuli> shortcuts?
[17:19] <Akuli> launchers?
[17:19] <Akuli> icons?
[17:19] <mate|10162> for example, the menu I think it a bit better - but that's because I've got used to a single dropdown list rather than Mates traditional Applications/Places/System format
[17:19] <mate|10162> yes all those things
[17:20] <mate|10162> also the clock...
[17:20] <mate|10162> you can't change the popup format, as far as I
[17:20] <mate|10162> I'm aware
[17:21] <Akuli> you can :) you just need to change the code and compile the clock again
[17:22] <Akuli> i was going to do that once when someone asked something about the clock here
[17:22] <mate|10162> ... yeah but who has the time for that ...
[17:22] <Akuli> 15 minutes if you know where to look
[17:22] <mate|10162> 15 mins i dont have to be honest
[17:22] <Akuli> which i didn't :D
[17:23] <Akuli> thats awful
[19:28] <kps> installed ubuntu mate in asua notebook x552cl having windows 10 a'ready but now windows 10 is loading automatically own it's own.
[19:29] <kps> somebody please help
[19:29] <Akuli> kps, make sure it shuts down correctly
[19:29] <Akuli> i.e. disable fast boot
[19:29] <Akuli> then reinstall your grub
[19:29] <Akuli> use google, if you have trouble ask me
[19:31] <kps> fast boot us already disabled
[19:31] <kps> & how could I repair grub ?
[19:31] <kps> https://ubuntu-mate.community/
[19:31] <kps> will this work
[19:35] <kps_> please i repeat tell me something to boot ubuntu
[19:36] <Akuli> kps_, boot from an ubuntu installation usb stick
[19:36] <Akuli> lets get your grub fixed
[19:37] <kps_> i am using using ubuntu after choosing "try ubuntu" from usb stick
[19:37] <Akuli> ok, then lets get started
[19:37] <Akuli> open a terminal
[19:37] <Akuli> run this, and post the link it gives you here: lsblk | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:37] <kps_> yes opende
[19:39] <kps_> it's showing temporary failure un mame resolution
[19:39] <kps_> did u type wrongly?
[19:40] <kps_> sorry did i type wrongly
[19:40] <Akuli> are you connected to internet?
[19:40] <kps_> that's what i was trying to say
[19:40] <kps_> no
[19:40] <Akuli> connect
[19:40] <Akuli> or if not possible
[19:41] <Akuli> you can save that to a text file instead, transfer that to another computer and paste it to dpaste.com
[19:41] <Akuli> to get started you could do this: lsblk > Desktop/bring-this-to-akuli.txt
[19:43] <kps_> http://termbin.com/1t5l
[19:43] <kps_> this is what it has shown after typing that
[19:44] <kps_> hey mr. akuli are you there?
[19:44] <Akuli> ues
[19:45] <Akuli> yes
[19:45] <alkisg> This shows a bit more output: sudo lsblk --fs
[19:45] <Akuli> kps_, its a link, open it
[19:45] <Akuli> alkisg, thats actually a nice idea :)
[19:46] <alkisg> ;)
[19:46] <Akuli> kps_, do you know which of the lines is your ubuntu partition?
[19:46] <kps_> yes
[19:46] <Akuli> which is it?
[19:47] <kps_> and btw i loaded ubunti after creating just root partition
[19:47] <Akuli> so you did it the debootstrap way?
[19:47] <Akuli> nice
[19:47] <kps_> sda2 ext4  bbsda
[19:48] <kps_> --sda. instead of bbsda
[19:48] <Akuli> mount your ubuntu partition: sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt
[19:48] <Akuli> chroot to it: sudo chroot /mnt
[19:48] <Akuli> actually dont chroot just yet
[19:48] <alkisg> Is it mbr or uefi?
[19:48] <kps_> uefi
[19:48] <alkisg> (err, bios/uefi, mbr/gpt...)
[19:49] <kps_> btw in sda3 ubuntu
[19:50] <Akuli> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_the_LiveCD_terminal
[19:50] <alkisg> When you installed, did the installer say anything about grub issues? Like, "grub was not installed successfully..."?
[19:50] <ss__> hey y'all. nice to be on irc again. totally loving ubuntu MATE 16.04, fucking amazing release
[19:50] <Akuli> Hi ss__
[19:51] <kps_> didn't get you afywr mount command
[19:51] <kps_> after
[19:52] <kps_> no
[19:52] <Akuli> so your windows just updated itself and now you have no grub?
[19:53] <kps_> no it's not like i already had windows 10 but i just installed ubuntu mate for the first time in this pc.
[19:54] <ss__> i see in synaptic that the global menu package is preinstalled, yet i am not getting global menus, and i can't figure out how to activate it. by the way, i am running ubuntu MATE on an original netbook from 2008 with just 1gb of ram, and i am able to watch videos smoothly with kodi, and this machine has never felt this powerful, since 10.10
[19:55] <alkisg> kps_: can you try this? (1) boot with the live cd, (2) in the live cd grub menu, press "c" to get to the grub console, (3) there, type: set root=(hd0,gpt3) and then: configfile /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[19:55] <kps_> so on getting switch on my pc it should show which os i want to boot but it's automatically booting windowa 10 againa and again
[19:55] <alkisg> kps_: I think this will allow you to boot into your Ubuntu installation, and that it's an issue with UEFI default entry
[19:56] <kps_> where would i get grub menu ?
[19:56] <kps_> m having usb stick
[19:56] <kps_> live usb stick*
[19:57] <alkisg> When you boot with the stick, don't you see a simple grub menu?
[19:58] <alkisg> Something similar to that: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-dJ4SVdTYPN4/UIO8WD0uoBI/AAAAAAAAAZA/_7OC-oPKjmk/s576/grub-0.jpg
[19:58] <kps_> ohh that's what grub menu is okay
[20:00] <Akuli> your usb stick may not show up one though
[20:00] <alkisg> ss__: what's a "global menu"? what's the package name?
[20:00] <kps_> with that procedure you told above will not hinder me in in booting windows 10 right,na ?
[20:01] <alkisg> kps_: that's a one-time thing, it doesn't save anything
[20:01] <alkisg> You'll be able to boot only one time with that, it will change nothing
[20:01] <alkisg> If it works, we'll see how to set the default uefi entry
[20:01] <kps_> nothing happened with that thing
[20:01] <alkisg> If it doesn't, we'll check if it's something else
[20:01] <alkisg> Did you see any error messages?
[20:02] <alkisg> E.g. gpt3 might not be the correct one
[20:02] <kps_> it just loaded ascreen with grub written there
[20:02] <kps_> no nothing error was there
[20:02] <alkisg> That second screen is the correct grub menu
[20:02] <alkisg> That one should mention "load ubuntu" etc
[20:02] <kps_> okay then ?
[20:03] <alkisg> There you should just select to boot ubuntu
[20:03] <alkisg> Try it, let's see
[20:03] <ss__> alkisg: um, sorry i thought that was the name commonly used for the menu included in the top panel a la osx and ubuntu unity
[20:03] <Akuli> thanks for helping here alkisg :) its nice to see that i'm not the only helper here
[20:03] <alkisg> Akuli: you're doing a great job!
[20:03] <alkisg> Many thanks to you!
[20:04] <alkisg> ss__: sorry, no idea about that OS/X - style menu
[20:04] <alkisg> I think mate tweak has some option for something similar, some floating icons in the bottom, but I've never used it
[20:04] <ss__> alkisg, like almost anything, some ppl love it some hate it. i am in the former camp, and especially since using a netbook, it is a space saving feature
[20:04] <alkisg> mate tweak is preinstalled, available in the menus
[20:05]  * alkisg is using the redmont menu, single bar in the bottom, similar to xp
[20:05] <kps_> what am i supposed to do now  err pls help here
[20:05] <alkisg> kps_: did you ubuntu boot from the hard disk?
[20:06] <alkisg> *your
[20:06] <kps_> no
[20:06] <kps_> it's first time i installed ubuntu
[20:07] <alkisg> I mean, after the grub commands I mentioned
[20:07] <alkisg> Those commands were supposed to let you start with the live cd, then boot from the ubuntu in the hard disk
[20:08] <alkisg> *live usb stick
[20:08] <kps_> but nothing happened with those except getting again grub written screen
[20:08] <ss__> alkisg, i'm looking for the package name, in the meantime, global menu, which is the term i searched in synaptic would put for instance the hexchat, view, server, settings, window, help menus into the top panel rather than taking up an additional 22 or 24 pixels of my small, short screen
[20:08] <alkisg> kps_: was it the same grub screen or a different grub screen?
[20:09] <ss__> alkisg, it seems the name of the package must be 'topmenu'
[20:10] <kps_> different
[20:10] <alkisg> ss__: I have something like this, only 24 pixels at the bottom, nothing at the top: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-RouYFicwT1Y/VQcO-Xjq76I/AAAAAAAAFOM/_a8CqaYtSyI/s1600/%D0%A1%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%BE%D0%BA-2.png
[20:10] <alkisg> From that same menu there are other options, I think one of them has a floating menu
[20:10] <alkisg> kps_: that's the menu that should allow you to boot ubuntu without the stick
[20:11] <alkisg> Did you select "boot ubuntu" from that second grub menu?
[20:11] <kps_> there came nothing to select out of
[20:12] <ss__> alkisg, have u ever used unity de or a mac?
[20:12] <alkisg> I don't understand what you're saying
[20:12] <alkisg> ss__: I've seen unity, but I don't think I can help, I don't have experience with other menus
[20:12] <alkisg> Only that mate-tweak option
[20:12] <ss__> alkisg, ok, thanks anyway
[20:13] <alkisg> kps_: what where the options of that other grub menu?
[20:13] <ss__> alkisg, oh wait a second, i just found out how to use it
[20:14] <ss__> alkisg, if u use mutiny on tweak, the hexchat menu's become  integrated with the top panel
[20:15] <kps_> actually there nothing except "grub>k there.those command worked like clear "command of dos
[20:16] <alkisg> kps_: tab autocompletes file names, and it's a way to check that the paths are correct
[20:16] <ss__> so it seems it is used by default on the mutiny panel layout. i am not sure how to include it on my customized layout, but finding this is good enough for me, i will customize this layout now
[20:16] <alkisg> So, configfile /boot/grub/gru<tab> should autocomplete grub.cfg
[20:16] <alkisg> If it doesn't, then it's not the correct partition
[20:16] <ss__> alkisg, so it seems it is used by default on the mutiny panel layout. i am not sure how to include it on my customized layout, but finding this is good enough for me, i will customize this layout now
[20:16] <alkisg> ss__: nice! :)
[20:17] <ss__> alkisg, just fyi
[20:17] <ss__> alkisg, r u a MATE or ubuntu MATE dev?
[20:17] <alkisg> ss__: no
[20:17] <alkisg> Just a user
[20:18] <ss__> alkisg, ok, well, thanks for being a helpful user mate ;)
[20:18] <alkisg> ;)
[20:18] <ss__> alkisg, fucking LOVING this release
[20:30] <bugworm> hello everyone. I am pretty new to Ubuntu Mate, but i am using it on a Lenovo 300 Yoga, with everything working straight out of the box, except the rotation sensor. Thats pretty aweseome. Any hint, or tip, who i can ask to get that running, or better, how to improve rotational touchscreen support for all Ubuntu versions ? (i am ready to do some wor
[20:30] <bugworm> k here :D)
[20:32] <ss__> bugworm, cool to know it mostly works on a yoga, those are nice and might be my next laptop
[20:33] <ss__> bugworm, sorry tho that i have no advice about the rotation, hope there is a solution out there
[20:59] <ubuntu-mate> salve, ho appena terminato di installare ubuntu
[20:59] <ubuntu-mate> salve, ho appena terminato di installare ubuntu mate, ma al riavvio non parte il grub, cosa devo fare?
[22:48] <ken_> why is my isp saying linux is bad for me and linux is a virus
[22:50] <ken_> why is my isp saying linux is bad for me and linux is a virus
[22:50] <ken_> why is my isp saying linux is bad for me and linux is a virus
[22:54] <ouroumov> haha
[22:55] <ken_> why is my isp saying linux is bad for me and linux is a virus
[22:55] <ouroumov> Maybe they have a contract with µ$0ft
[22:56] <ken_> they said is bad for my country
[22:56] <ken_> that hackers will attack me
[22:56] <ouroumov> What's your country?
[22:57] <ken_> trinidad and tobago
[22:57] <ouroumov> And what's your ISP?
[22:58] <ken_> flow trinidad
[23:00] <ouroumov> That's cool
[23:00] <ken_> is this true
[23:00] <ouroumov> And when you say your ISP says those things, where does it do that exactly?
[23:01] <ouroumov> On a website?
[23:01] <ken_> they say it affect they system
[23:01] <ken_> severs
[23:02] <ken_> they run on windows severs
[23:02] <ouroumov> Areyouserious?
[23:02] <ouroumov> Wow.
[23:03] <ouroumov> Was about to say they probably run their infra on Linux lol
[23:03] <ken_> what really
[23:03] <ken_> they run linux
[23:03] <ken_> they are ling to me
[23:04] <ouroumov> No man, not what I said
[23:04] <ouroumov> It's possible they are using Windows, even if they're the only ones on the planet
[23:04] <ken_> plus they said linux is from the nsa and cia
[23:05] <ouroumov> Are you sure you didn't swap those two terms: (Windows, Linux) ?
[23:06] <ken_> no
[23:07] <ken_> they are saying to leave now
[23:07] <ken_> or they will sue me for breaking the freedom of imformation act.
[23:08] <ouroumov> You're either trolling or this is the saddest story ever
[23:09] <ouroumov> Also this is an American Law dude
[23:09] <ken_> so i might go to jail
[23:09] <ken_> will i not tell lies they are
[23:10] <ken_> and i will be leaving linux
[23:10] <ken_> my company
[23:10] <randall> wait....what?
[23:10] <ouroumov> This is awesome
[23:11] <ouroumov> randall, imagine ken_ is a performer and this is Theater.
[23:11] <ken_>  my whole country might never use linux
[23:11] <randall> ouroumov, ahhhhh, ok
[23:11] <ken_> my isp said i am breaking laws
[23:12] <ken_> in my country and worldwide
[23:12] <randall> illegal downloading?
[23:12] <randall> wire fraud?
[23:13] <randall> buying drugs on the silk road?
[23:13] <ouroumov> Not using a gov-approved OS :D
[23:13] <randall> hiring hitmen?
[23:13] <ken_> they said linux is illegal in many countries
[23:13] <ouroumov> Surely it's illegal in Wonderland
[23:13] <randall> care to name 3 of them?
[23:13] <ouroumov> And in the new republic of Mars