* paddatrapper blinks | 05:24 | |
paddatrapper | Morning everyone | 05:24 |
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thatgraemeguy | morning peoples | 05:38 |
inetpro | good morning everyone | 06:01 |
Kilos | hi d`_`b | 06:04 |
Kilos | welcome to ubuntu-za | 06:04 |
Kilos | morning inetpro superfly paddatrapper theblazehen thatgraemeguy MaNI chesedo andrewlsd and all others too | 06:06 |
paddatrapper | Hey Kilos. How's it going in the cold? | 06:14 |
Kilos | haha shivering | 06:15 |
Kilos | hows things there lad | 06:15 |
Sicelo | morning | 06:16 |
Kilos | hi Sicelo | 06:16 |
d`_`b | Morning Kilos | 06:26 |
Kilos | hmm... should we know you? | 06:27 |
andrewlsd | Morning | 06:27 |
Kilos | quassel user | 06:27 |
Kilos | jerit is it you? | 06:27 |
andrewlsd | Looks like d`_`b is wearing headphones. | 06:28 |
Kilos | haha | 06:28 |
d`_`b | basicly, d-_-b already in use. | 06:28 |
d`_`b | Hi andrewlsd | 06:29 |
Kilos | lol | 06:29 |
Kilos | Maaz nickometer d`_`b | 06:29 |
Maaz | Kilos: d`_`b is 69.4% lame | 06:29 |
Kilos | hehe | 06:29 |
andrewlsd | Maaz: nickometer andrewlsd | 06:29 |
Maaz | andrewlsd: andrewlsd is 0.0% lame | 06:29 |
d`_`b | So d`_`b is just d-_-b rolling his eyes! | 06:29 |
andrewlsd | Maaz: nickometer Kilos | 06:30 |
Maaz | andrewlsd: Kilos is 0.0% lame | 06:30 |
andrewlsd | ooh | 06:30 |
Kilos | d`_`b what is your other nick | 06:30 |
Kilos | hehe making me think so early in the morning on such a cold morning | 06:31 |
andrewlsd | I just tried dº_ºb but it had illegal characters. | 06:32 |
Kilos | haha | 06:32 |
d`_`b | Kilos: my affiliation | 06:32 |
andrewlsd | ludocris. | 06:32 |
Kilos | ludo | 06:32 |
Kilos | i see now | 06:32 |
Kilos | sorry for being so slow | 06:32 |
andrewlsd | ȍ | 06:33 |
Kilos | nice nick to type though d tab | 06:34 |
theblazehen | hi Kilos | 06:46 |
Kilos | i go do chores | 06:50 |
paddatrapper | Kilos: cold here too... Though no rain today | 06:58 |
superfly | o/ | 07:09 |
superfly | Maaz: nickometer superfly | 07:10 |
Maaz | superfly: superfly is 0.0% lame | 07:10 |
superfly | Maaz: nickometer Kilos | 07:11 |
Maaz | superfly: Kilos is 0.0% lame | 07:11 |
superfly | Maaz: nickometer paddatrapper | 07:11 |
Maaz | superfly: paddatrapper is 0.0% lame | 07:11 |
anton_may | ciao, dumelang, guten morgen, goeie môre, good monirngs | 07:11 |
superfly | molo anton_may | 07:12 |
anton_may | o/ superfly | 07:12 |
paddatrapper | Lol | 07:18 |
paddatrapper | Hey superfly | 07:18 |
dlPhreak | Morning | 07:19 |
andrewlsd | molo paddatrapper superfly dlPhreak | 07:24 |
paddatrapper | Goede morge andrewlsd | 07:25 |
andrewlsd | Gutendag paddatrapper | 07:25 |
* andrewlsd is disconnecting from QuasselCore | 07:27 | |
dlPhreak | Hi andrewlsd, paddatrapper | 08:01 |
paddatrapper | Hey dlPhreak | 08:03 |
dlPhreak | paddatrapper: how are you? | 08:49 |
paddatrapper | dlPhreak: good thanks. You? | 09:10 |
dlPhreak | Pretty swell thanks paddatrapper | 09:36 |
dlPhreak | Are you new here or am I oblivious? | 09:37 |
dlPhreak | I don't come here very often and when I am here I just idle so I don't really pay attention to who comes and goes.. | 09:38 |
jerit | is it weird or awesome that this is really the only channel I care about being in anymore aside from #web-social? | 09:51 |
MaNI | depends on your occupation I guess - if you are a programmer then I would say yes thats pretty odd, if not then it probably isn't that strange | 09:54 |
Kilos | that one or #ubuntu-za | 09:54 |
jerit | Kilos these are the only 2 channels I care about being in | 09:55 |
Kilos | what is that one about | 09:56 |
jerit | MaNI not all that strange really. They treat me like crap in ##csharp and in other channels its normally dead quiet so... | 09:56 |
Kilos | just socialising? | 09:56 |
jerit | yeah | 09:56 |
jerit | they've helped me a lot with a bunch of stuff though... good bunch of guys | 09:56 |
Kilos | well if you can give and receive help then all good | 09:57 |
MaNI | I'd expect most programmers who IRC to be in several channels simply because they are likely to use several libraries. | 10:02 |
MaNI | e.g. I am #wxWidgets because I use that library, I very seldom need to talk in there but it is pretty rude to join only when you need to ask a question and then immediately leave, so I hang around and occasionally even answer questions. | 10:03 |
MaNI | I guess it depends though *shrug* | 10:03 |
Kilos | nice to hear that MaNI | 10:03 |
Kilos | i also think its rude | 10:04 |
MaNI | especially for smaller projects who don't have lots of people | 10:05 |
MaNI | if it's something like #postgresql where the text is constantly scrolling then it's a bit different | 10:05 |
jerit | MaNI I used to hang around and answer questions (when I could) in #csharp but one of the guys in there has something against me so he makes it very unpleasant for me to stay there | 10:08 |
MaNI | I can understand yes | 10:10 |
MaNI | some channels can be quite toxic | 10:10 |
Kilos | if you dont feel happy or welcome in a channel just leave | 10:18 |
Kilos | some peeps can be very snotty | 10:19 |
paddatrapper | dlPhreak: I've been here for a while, 3/4 monts or so I think | 10:49 |
dlPhreak | paddatrapper: well then I am pleased to meet your acquaintance. | 10:53 |
paddatrapper | dlPhreak: and I yours :) | 11:27 |
Kilos | hehe | 11:31 |
Kilos | surely more than 4 months paddatrapper | 11:32 |
Kilos | dlPhreak he is also busy rewriting our bot | 11:32 |
Kilos | between studies | 11:32 |
Kilos | inetpro ? | 11:33 |
* Kilos hears govt places upgrading stuff | 11:33 | |
dlPhreak | Y u replacing Maaz ?? | 11:44 |
dlPhreak | :'( | 11:44 |
Kilos | nope we will just upgrade him once everything is sorted | 11:45 |
dlPhreak | I always thought maaz was female?? | 11:45 |
Kilos | no his wife is | 11:46 |
Kilos | actually he is neither | 11:46 |
Kilos | Maaz are you male | 11:46 |
Maaz | No. Us Bots are above that human failing | 11:46 |
dlPhreak | Maaz, do you know C3PO? | 11:48 |
Maaz | dlPhreak: Huh? | 11:48 |
dlPhreak | Or R2D2 | 11:48 |
Kilos | haha | 11:48 |
dlPhreak | I think BB8 > R2D2 | 11:49 |
paddatrapper | Kilos: think I first peaked around the door end of Feb/beginning of March | 11:53 |
Kilos | and you got trapped | 11:53 |
Kilos | aw paddatrapper i forgot your name | 11:56 |
Kilos | and cant scroll back into last nights meeting | 11:56 |
anton_may | What version of flash is required for efilling? Efilling says 11.3 and the one for linux is only 11.2 | 12:34 |
Sicelo | if that's what it says .. then likely that's what it requires :) | 12:36 |
Sicelo | however, usually there are ways to 'fake' Flash versions .. have a look at that, and it may help | 12:36 |
Sicelo | although i think you might still have other problems, such as XFA on their PDFs | 12:37 |
anton_may | nope got adobe reader installed, according to adobe website the latest version of flash is installed, but efilling says 11.3. So will see how to fake it | 12:38 |
MaNI | so ridiculous the way e-filing depends on that stuff :( | 12:44 |
anton_may | yip worked great last year, noe this year is a joke | 12:45 |
MaNI | gives me problems every year - I usually just end up using a VM for it, so unnecessary though it is just some forms that have to be filled in there are open standards that can handle this | 12:46 |
anton_may | urg ok, let me dust of the cobwebs on the vm | 12:47 |
MaNI | not like the whole adobe thing they have going on is even user friendly, it's a clumsy mess | 12:48 |
jerit | Malema is so all over the place I'd be shocked if he doesn't need someone to tie his shoes for him in the morning | 12:51 |
Sicelo | :) | 12:52 |
jerit | The more I look at the DA, ANC and EFF playing their little political games, the more I agree with David Draiman's (frontman for Disturbed) views on politics http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/disturbeds-david-draiman-i-hate-all-politicians-equally/ | 12:57 |
ra1v3n | hello | 13:06 |
paddatrapper | Hey ra1v3n | 13:06 |
ra1v3n | hello paddatrapper | 13:07 |
paddatrapper | How goes it? | 13:09 |
jerit | hi ra1v3n | 13:11 |
ra1v3n | hello jerit | 13:12 |
jerit | you well? | 13:12 |
ra1v3n | Im good thank and yourself? | 13:12 |
superfly | anton_may: I have a Mac at home for some cross-platform development. I just use that. | 13:24 |
anton_may | yea, I got a Win 7 VM on my ubuntu home laptop | 13:34 |
jerit | all good thanks ra1v3n :) just had to reboot there because my computer went spastic or summing | 13:37 |
jerit | its this ubuntu nonsense :P | 13:37 |
ra1v3n | lol | 13:44 |
ra1v3n | nothing wrong with Ubuntu | 13:45 |
ra1v3n | plenty wrong with Unity | 13:45 |
ra1v3n | only uses openbox | 13:45 |
Na3iL | o/ | 13:49 |
theblazehen | Nothing wrong with dwm.suckless.org/ | 13:54 |
anton_may | ciao all see you tomorrows | 13:56 |
magespawn | brb | 14:21 |
ra1v3n | theblazehen, thankyou.... I think I might try dwn or awesome next, nothing seems to be happening in terms of development on openbox | 14:26 |
theblazehen | ra1v3n: AwesomeWM is... Well, Awesome! | 14:27 |
theblazehen | Only one that lets you have a full set of independent workspaces on all monitors | 14:27 |
ra1v3n | I just love openbox because it hardly uses resoures and never gets in my way | 14:27 |
theblazehen | I like herbestlufwm (I spelt it wrong, google can figure it out...), but it doesn't do multi monitor right. AwesomeWM is literally the only one that does | 14:28 |
ra1v3n | then I shall try awesome | 14:29 |
ra1v3n | Ive been meaning to learn Lua anyway | 14:29 |
theblazehen | It's using 58290 bytes of RAM at the moment | 14:31 |
theblazehen | (RSS) | 14:31 |
ra1v3n | that like nothing | 14:33 |
ra1v3n | When I started using openbox I was surprised at how fast my graphics apps and games responded | 14:33 |
theblazehen | Yeah. I used to run XFCE. was using 53 (!) MB RAM at boot | 14:34 |
ra1v3n | Now I sit at a machine that has a clunky wm/de and I get super annoyed | 14:34 |
ra1v3n | sooo slooow | 14:34 |
ra1v3n | the worst is by far windows | 14:35 |
theblazehen | Went without computer between 2010 or so to around November 2012, then I got a free PC with 256 MB RAM. Was fun chainloading from a CD so I could boot to a USB | 14:35 |
theblazehen | Yeah. Hell, even xp struggles with 256 MB RAM | 14:35 |
ra1v3n | but Canonicals Unity is right behind it | 14:35 |
theblazehen | Arch with xfce was decent | 14:35 |
theblazehen | Sure, I could only open 1 browser tab, and couldn't use heavy websites, but othwrwise it's fine | 14:36 |
theblazehen | !FUN! fact, don't leave the cloudflare website open over night. Found it using around 680 MB RAM | 14:36 |
theblazehen | A reddit page is around 15 MB | 14:36 |
theblazehen | Wikipedia around 5-9, google close to 20-25 | 14:36 |
ra1v3n | I would much rather reserve a systems resources for important programs rather than choke it with a fancy desktop | 14:37 |
ra1v3n | I use links2 if I just need the text | 14:37 |
theblazehen | Cool | 14:41 |
ra1v3n | otherwise I resort to firefox | 14:41 |
* theblazehen had 600+ frefox tabs open once | 14:44 | |
theblazehen | But then it got slow | 14:44 |
ra1v3n | lol | 14:45 |
ra1v3n | I limit myself to between 10 and 20 tabs | 14:45 |
ra1v3n | anything else is madness | 14:46 |
theblazehen | Check out tree style tabs and wikipedia | 14:48 |
ra1v3n | hmmm .... suppose that may be useful | 14:49 |
jerit | so guys, I have folder /var/www/html/jerit/stuff and I wanna the contents of the "jerit" directory into the "other" directory at /var/www/html/other/ I'm a little fuzzy on how to correctly target the locations correctly | 14:50 |
jerit | cp /var/www/html/jerit/ /var/www/html/other ? | 14:50 |
Na3iL | theblazehen, +600 tabs open on FF? | 15:08 |
* Na3iL is wondering what CPU type you have | 15:08 | |
Sicelo | finally bit the bullet .. upgrading to debian testing | 15:27 |
d`_`b | Hi, do anybody know if this is still a issue http://bugs.quassel-irc.org/issues/286? | 15:48 |
d`_`b | Can't seem to turn it on in my *gulp*windows client. | 15:49 |
d`_`b | Sicelo: what you looking forward to, in testing? | 15:50 |
d`_`b | Also how did you do it? Just a change in your `sources.list`, and `apt-get dist-upgrade`? | 15:52 |
Sicelo | yes, still downloading | 15:53 |
Sicelo | looking forward to bugs, and more fun :) | 15:53 |
Sicelo | sorry not using quassel, so no idea about that | 15:54 |
Kilos | hmm... long day | 15:59 |
d`_`b | np, pcbsd? I'm trying to get c9 running on it. Easy Peasy on ubuntu, but a quick *herp*durp* on bsd. | 15:59 |
paddatrapper | Sicelo: \o/ welcome to the interesting side of life! (I'm on unstable) | 16:04 |
jerit__ | so guys | 16:05 |
Sicelo | paddatrapper: awesome :) | 16:05 |
Sicelo | but my main pc will remain on stable - it is my router/AP, MTA, etc. so i don't need it to break | 16:06 |
jerit__ | I got quassel working | 16:06 |
jerit__ | turns out quassel =/= quassel client | 16:06 |
jerit__ | but now how do I connect to my znc | 16:07 |
Kilos | well done jerit__ | 16:07 |
Kilos | look in your nick panel and see who uses quassel | 16:07 |
Kilos | or ask the fly, pro or magespawn tomorrow or if he appears tonight | 16:08 |
jerit__ | ctcp version all 35 people here who aren't me you mean? | 16:08 |
Sicelo | don't /version me .. irssi :) | 16:08 |
Kilos | dont you see host names | 16:08 |
jerit__ | I just see nicks | 16:09 |
Kilos | in settings should be show host names | 16:09 |
Kilos | i dunno quassel but settings or preferences should give an option to show hosts in nick panel | 16:12 |
Sicelo | what does he need that for? (sorry if i missed something) | 16:12 |
Kilos | so he can see who uses quassel | 16:13 |
Kilos | and who is cloaked etc | 16:13 |
Kilos | he needs quassel help so normally you would ask a quassel user right? | 16:13 |
Sicelo | jerit__: about your 'cp' question .. looks fine your command .. just add -r or -R as otherwise sub-directories will not be descended into | 16:14 |
jerit | thanks Sicelo ^^ I'm gonna get screwed with that particular flag a lot in the next few months I expect | 16:15 |
Sicelo | the more you use it, you'll remember it ;) | 16:15 |
Sicelo | nice thing is that the flag works even with scp .. which is cool | 16:16 |
Sicelo | but only -r .. hence i use `cp -r` too .. to avoid getting confused when using scp | 16:17 |
jerit | who am I!? | 16:21 |
jerit | okay jerit without any ---___ nonsense | 16:21 |
jerit | so with any luck I should not have any problems with getting disconnected later | 16:26 |
Kilos | are you in now jerit | 16:26 |
jerit | I seem to be yeah | 16:28 |
Kilos | yay | 16:28 |
jerit | connected to my znc and everything although that wasn't as straightforward as expected | 16:28 |
Kilos | normally once setup quassel is pretty stable | 16:30 |
magespawn | Back | 16:49 |
ra1v3n | wb | 16:50 |
andrewlsd | Wb | 16:52 |
theblazehen | Na3iL: Yes. | 16:53 |
jerit | magespawn: Kilos was gonna ask you to help me set up Quassel | 17:09 |
jerit | but I'm very heppy wiff myself because I did it all on my own :P | 17:09 |
Kilos | haha | 17:09 |
Kilos | hi magespawn | 17:09 |
magespawn | howdy | 17:19 |
magespawn | jerit what did you need help with or are you sorted | 17:22 |
magespawn | ? | 17:22 |
jerit | well I was opening Quassel Client by mistake | 17:23 |
jerit | And then I wanted to connect to my znc as well | 17:23 |
magespawn | just the client or the all in one? | 17:24 |
jerit | all's I wanted to do was to just chat here | 17:25 |
Kilos | haha | 17:25 |
jerit | so Quassel Client/Quassel Core wasn't really what I was looking for | 17:25 |
Kilos | now you can bounce from a cell or other pc as well | 17:26 |
jerit | oh because of znc? | 17:27 |
magespawn | the quassel core work more like znc | 17:27 |
Kilos | i dont know, magespawn will | 17:27 |
Kilos | there jerit the core does the bouncing without znc | 17:33 |
theblazehen | You kind of have to wonder if documentation is up to date if you have to go to archive.org to get it | 17:34 |
jerit | I'll definitely look at it when I'm less frantic trying to fix my contractor's broken code and do his documentation for him | 17:34 |
jerit | lol theblazehen I'd wager it isn't :P | 17:34 |
theblazehen | jerit: To be fair, I'm trying to port to hardware from a similar time period | 17:35 |
jerit | lol well then maybe it is | 17:35 |
theblazehen | Did I mention how fun running `make -j` is on the linux kernel with lots of ram? | 17:38 |
theblazehen | Limited ram to 26GB, so had to run make twice, but 30 GB would probably have been enough | 17:38 |
theblazehen | Over 2000 processes running | 17:39 |
theblazehen | load of over 230 | 17:39 |
ra1v3n | wb jerit | 17:42 |
jerit | this is annoying. Apparently it doesn't matter if I'm using Quassel or mIRC except that Quassel seems to be able to connect again | 17:43 |
Kilos | kill mirc then | 17:43 |
Sicelo | hmm .. i might regret debian testing fast :P | 18:03 |
Sicelo | no longer have hibernate/sleep in kde | 18:03 |
theblazehen | 2/230/430/ | 18:03 |
Sicelo | systemd suspend works, at least :-/ | 18:14 |
Sicelo | the new KDE is "scary" .. has user icon that looks like it came out of Windows 10 | 18:14 |
Sicelo | :-/ | 18:14 |
Kilos | haha | 18:15 |
Sicelo | the UI has killed the traditional minimize, max, close buttons ... | 18:15 |
Sicelo | with the side effect that i am unable now to move firefor around when it has many tabs open .. nowhere to "hold" the window :D | 18:16 |
Kilos | Sicelo have you tried many workspaces | 18:17 |
Kilos | im using 9 but dunno if 16.04 can do that | 18:17 |
Sicelo | not on this new one .. but Focus-Follows-Mouse works, at least | 18:17 |
Sicelo | what's 9? Ubuntu 9? | 18:18 |
Kilos | 9 seperate desktops | 18:18 |
Kilos | separate | 18:18 |
Sicelo | ah | 18:18 |
Sicelo | should be doable | 18:18 |
Kilos | then you use the desktop switcher to switch | 18:19 |
Sicelo | found the settings .. can do up to 10 workspaces | 18:19 |
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Sicelo | Kilos: that sounds hacky :) | 18:19 |
Sicelo | there should be a proper way to move windows around | 18:20 |
Kilos | i use 10 on desktop | 18:20 |
Kilos | the n you leave ff on its own space | 18:20 |
Sicelo | feels like Unity now | 18:21 |
=== Guest91131 is now known as pavlushka | ||
Kilos | lol | 18:21 |
Sicelo | oh .. not to mention this kde is flat like windows 10 too | 18:23 |
Sicelo | Microsoft Loves Linux after all, haha | 18:23 |
Kilos | that was after their smear campaign | 18:24 |
magespawn | chat later all, home time | 18:25 |
Kilos | go safe magespawn | 18:25 |
Sicelo | so easiest way to move window around is to right-click them on task bar :-/ | 18:26 |
Sicelo | ah .. got a theme with 'sane' buttons | 18:31 |
Kilos | hi K_K_N kzn north coast right? | 18:35 |
K_K_N | Kilos: yep | 18:35 |
Kilos | right , i gotcha placed now | 18:35 |
K_K_N | yep | 18:36 |
K_K_N | hows the weather been, checked on the news a tornado hit Tembisa, I never knew that South Africa even has tornadoes its the first time I heard of it | 18:37 |
Kilos | yeah not often | 18:38 |
Kilos | rained in tvl even | 18:38 |
K_K_N | well we definitely need the rain the water restrictions are not cool at all | 18:39 |
K_K_N | if you wake up too late then no bath until it comes back | 18:40 |
jerit | apparently something on my pc is stuffing around with my connection | 18:40 |
K_K_N | I hope it rained enough above the damns | 18:40 |
K_K_N | *dams | 18:40 |
Kilos | they still hoping | 18:40 |
nsnzero | evening all | 18:44 |
Kilos | hi nsnzero | 18:44 |
nsnzero | hi Kilos | 18:45 |
nsnzero | anybody used gambas ? | 18:46 |
jerit | K_K_N: didn't you know? The dams are empty because the sun evaporates all of the water | 18:46 |
K_K_N | is it jerit, and here I was thinking that the peeps are using too much water to flush their toilets... | 18:48 |
K_K_N | ...hahahahahahaahahah | 18:48 |
K_K_N | oh no I think jerit may have been offended with my humour, sorry jerit, I am always joking if you did not know ;) | 18:50 |
K_K_N | but on a serious note we need more rain, the last news update I heard before the rain, said that if we do not get rain soon, I think it was haelmere dam they spoke about, it would be empty by next year Feb or so | 18:53 |
Kilos | hi shadow | 18:54 |
Kilos | welcome to ubuntu-za | 18:54 |
Kilos | yes K_K_N times are hard waterwise | 18:55 |
Kilos | we lucky with our own borehole | 18:55 |
Kilos | jerit ill be in a meeting in africa channel soon, greet new peeps for me please | 18:56 |
jerit | K_K_N: very little offends me (basically only insults to my intelligence or character) | 18:57 |
jerit | Kilos will do my best - just really busy with testing of stuff | 18:57 |
K_K_N | yep I was lucky when we were still living on the farm, we had water tanks, now we living in a residential area and no water tank :( | 18:57 |
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K_K_N | lol @ jerit nice to know, same here ;) | 18:58 |
K_K_N | hehe | 18:58 |
jerit | :) | 19:00 |
jerit | my connection is making me cry right now :( | 19:02 |
jerit | maybe its just the CORS extension I've got on | 19:02 |
K_K_N1 | (9:09:42 PM) K_K_N: my connection does that to me all the time, I have grown to live with it but it has resulted in me being constantly frustrated | 19:08 |
K_K_N1 | LOL | 19:08 |
K_K_N1 | and I get disconnected like almost immediately | 19:08 |
inetpro | good night all | 19:27 |
inetpro | way too cold to even attempt scrolling | 19:27 |
Kilos | hi inetpro | 19:29 |
Kilos | see email from ian please | 19:30 |
K_K_N | grab a nice mug of Hot Chocolate inetpro it always warms you up | 19:30 |
K_K_N | hot coffee will do the same but then you may not be able to sleep for hours | 19:31 |
ra1v3n | gnyt all | 19:45 |
jerit | that looks like my bouncer | 19:51 |
pavlushka | Good Night ZA! | 20:14 |
Kilos | night pavlushka | 20:15 |
Kilos | paddatrapper you here | 20:29 |
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