[05:24] * paddatrapper blinks [05:24] Morning everyone [05:38] morning peoples [06:01] good morning everyone [06:04] hi d`_`b [06:04] welcome to ubuntu-za [06:06] morning inetpro superfly paddatrapper theblazehen thatgraemeguy MaNI chesedo andrewlsd and all others too [06:14] Hey Kilos. How's it going in the cold? [06:15] haha shivering [06:15] hows things there lad [06:16] morning [06:16] hi Sicelo [06:26] Morning Kilos [06:27] hmm... should we know you? [06:27] Morning [06:27] quassel user [06:27] jerit is it you? [06:28] Looks like d`_`b is wearing headphones. [06:28] haha [06:28] basicly, d-_-b already in use. [06:29] Hi andrewlsd [06:29] lol [06:29] Maaz nickometer d`_`b [06:29] Kilos: d`_`b is 69.4% lame [06:29] hehe [06:29] Maaz: nickometer andrewlsd [06:29] andrewlsd: andrewlsd is 0.0% lame [06:29] So d`_`b is just d-_-b rolling his eyes! [06:30] Maaz: nickometer Kilos [06:30] andrewlsd: Kilos is 0.0% lame [06:30] ooh [06:30] d`_`b what is your other nick [06:31] hehe making me think so early in the morning on such a cold morning [06:32] I just tried dº_ºb but it had illegal characters. [06:32] haha [06:32] Kilos: my affiliation [06:32] ludocris. [06:32] ludo [06:32] i see now [06:32] sorry for being so slow [06:33] ȍ [06:34] nice nick to type though d tab [06:46] hi Kilos [06:50] i go do chores [06:58] Kilos: cold here too... Though no rain today [07:09] o/ [07:10] Maaz: nickometer superfly [07:10] superfly: superfly is 0.0% lame [07:11] Maaz: nickometer Kilos [07:11] superfly: Kilos is 0.0% lame [07:11] Maaz: nickometer paddatrapper [07:11] superfly: paddatrapper is 0.0% lame [07:11] ciao, dumelang, guten morgen, goeie môre, good monirngs [07:12] molo anton_may [07:12] o/ superfly [07:18] Lol [07:18] Hey superfly [07:19] Morning [07:24] molo paddatrapper superfly dlPhreak [07:25] Goede morge andrewlsd [07:25] Gutendag paddatrapper [07:27] * andrewlsd is disconnecting from QuasselCore [08:01] Hi andrewlsd, paddatrapper [08:03] Hey dlPhreak [08:49] paddatrapper: how are you? [09:10] dlPhreak: good thanks. You? [09:36] Pretty swell thanks paddatrapper [09:37] Are you new here or am I oblivious? [09:38] I don't come here very often and when I am here I just idle so I don't really pay attention to who comes and goes.. [09:51] is it weird or awesome that this is really the only channel I care about being in anymore aside from #web-social? [09:54] depends on your occupation I guess - if you are a programmer then I would say yes thats pretty odd, if not then it probably isn't that strange [09:54] that one or #ubuntu-za [09:55] Kilos these are the only 2 channels I care about being in [09:56] what is that one about [09:56] MaNI not all that strange really. They treat me like crap in ##csharp and in other channels its normally dead quiet so... [09:56] just socialising? [09:56] yeah [09:56] they've helped me a lot with a bunch of stuff though... good bunch of guys [09:57] well if you can give and receive help then all good [10:02] I'd expect most programmers who IRC to be in several channels simply because they are likely to use several libraries. [10:03] e.g. I am #wxWidgets because I use that library, I very seldom need to talk in there but it is pretty rude to join only when you need to ask a question and then immediately leave, so I hang around and occasionally even answer questions. [10:03] I guess it depends though *shrug* [10:03] nice to hear that MaNI [10:04] i also think its rude [10:05] especially for smaller projects who don't have lots of people [10:05] if it's something like #postgresql where the text is constantly scrolling then it's a bit different [10:08] MaNI I used to hang around and answer questions (when I could) in #csharp but one of the guys in there has something against me so he makes it very unpleasant for me to stay there [10:10] I can understand yes [10:10] some channels can be quite toxic [10:18] if you dont feel happy or welcome in a channel just leave [10:19] some peeps can be very snotty [10:49] dlPhreak: I've been here for a while, 3/4 monts or so I think [10:53] paddatrapper: well then I am pleased to meet your acquaintance. [11:27] dlPhreak: and I yours :) [11:31] hehe [11:32] surely more than 4 months paddatrapper [11:32] dlPhreak he is also busy rewriting our bot [11:32] between studies [11:33] inetpro ? [11:33] * Kilos hears govt places upgrading stuff [11:44] Y u replacing Maaz ?? [11:44] :'( [11:45] nope we will just upgrade him once everything is sorted [11:45] I always thought maaz was female?? [11:46] no his wife is [11:46] actually he is neither [11:46] Maaz are you male [11:46] No. Us Bots are above that human failing [11:48] Maaz, do you know C3PO? [11:48] dlPhreak: Huh? [11:48] Or R2D2 [11:48] haha [11:49] I think BB8 > R2D2 [11:53] Kilos: think I first peaked around the door end of Feb/beginning of March [11:53] and you got trapped [11:56] aw paddatrapper i forgot your name [11:56] and cant scroll back into last nights meeting [12:34] What version of flash is required for efilling? Efilling says 11.3 and the one for linux is only 11.2 [12:36] if that's what it says .. then likely that's what it requires :) [12:36] however, usually there are ways to 'fake' Flash versions .. have a look at that, and it may help [12:37] although i think you might still have other problems, such as XFA on their PDFs [12:38] nope got adobe reader installed, according to adobe website the latest version of flash is installed, but efilling says 11.3. So will see how to fake it [12:44] so ridiculous the way e-filing depends on that stuff :( [12:45] yip worked great last year, noe this year is a joke [12:46] gives me problems every year - I usually just end up using a VM for it, so unnecessary though it is just some forms that have to be filled in there are open standards that can handle this [12:47] urg ok, let me dust of the cobwebs on the vm [12:48] not like the whole adobe thing they have going on is even user friendly, it's a clumsy mess [12:51] Malema is so all over the place I'd be shocked if he doesn't need someone to tie his shoes for him in the morning [12:52] :) [12:57] The more I look at the DA, ANC and EFF playing their little political games, the more I agree with David Draiman's (frontman for Disturbed) views on politics http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/disturbeds-david-draiman-i-hate-all-politicians-equally/ [13:06] hello [13:06] Hey ra1v3n [13:07] hello paddatrapper [13:09] How goes it? [13:11] hi ra1v3n [13:12] hello jerit [13:12] you well? [13:12] Im good thank and yourself? [13:24] anton_may: I have a Mac at home for some cross-platform development. I just use that. [13:34] yea, I got a Win 7 VM on my ubuntu home laptop [13:37] all good thanks ra1v3n :) just had to reboot there because my computer went spastic or summing [13:37] its this ubuntu nonsense :P [13:44] lol [13:45] nothing wrong with Ubuntu [13:45] plenty wrong with Unity [13:45] only uses openbox [13:49] o/ [13:54] Nothing wrong with dwm.suckless.org/ [13:56] ciao all see you tomorrows [14:21] brb [14:26] theblazehen, thankyou.... I think I might try dwn or awesome next, nothing seems to be happening in terms of development on openbox [14:27] ra1v3n: AwesomeWM is... Well, Awesome! [14:27] Only one that lets you have a full set of independent workspaces on all monitors [14:27] I just love openbox because it hardly uses resoures and never gets in my way [14:28] I like herbestlufwm (I spelt it wrong, google can figure it out...), but it doesn't do multi monitor right. AwesomeWM is literally the only one that does [14:29] then I shall try awesome [14:29] Ive been meaning to learn Lua anyway [14:31] It's using 58290 bytes of RAM at the moment [14:31] (RSS) [14:33] that like nothing [14:33] When I started using openbox I was surprised at how fast my graphics apps and games responded [14:34] Yeah. I used to run XFCE. was using 53 (!) MB RAM at boot [14:34] Now I sit at a machine that has a clunky wm/de and I get super annoyed [14:34] sooo slooow [14:35] the worst is by far windows [14:35] Went without computer between 2010 or so to around November 2012, then I got a free PC with 256 MB RAM. Was fun chainloading from a CD so I could boot to a USB [14:35] Yeah. Hell, even xp struggles with 256 MB RAM [14:35] but Canonicals Unity is right behind it [14:35] Arch with xfce was decent [14:36] Sure, I could only open 1 browser tab, and couldn't use heavy websites, but othwrwise it's fine [14:36] !FUN! fact, don't leave the cloudflare website open over night. Found it using around 680 MB RAM [14:36] A reddit page is around 15 MB [14:36] Wikipedia around 5-9, google close to 20-25 [14:37] I would much rather reserve a systems resources for important programs rather than choke it with a fancy desktop [14:37] I use links2 if I just need the text [14:41] Cool [14:41] otherwise I resort to firefox [14:44] * theblazehen had 600+ frefox tabs open once [14:44] But then it got slow [14:45] lol [14:45] I limit myself to between 10 and 20 tabs [14:46] anything else is madness [14:48] Check out tree style tabs and wikipedia [14:49] hmmm .... suppose that may be useful [14:50] so guys, I have folder /var/www/html/jerit/stuff and I wanna the contents of the "jerit" directory into the "other" directory at /var/www/html/other/ I'm a little fuzzy on how to correctly target the locations correctly [14:50] cp /var/www/html/jerit/ /var/www/html/other ? [15:08] theblazehen, +600 tabs open on FF? [15:08] * Na3iL is wondering what CPU type you have [15:27] finally bit the bullet .. upgrading to debian testing [15:48] Hi, do anybody know if this is still a issue http://bugs.quassel-irc.org/issues/286? [15:49] Can't seem to turn it on in my *gulp*windows client. [15:50] Sicelo: what you looking forward to, in testing? [15:52] Also how did you do it? Just a change in your `sources.list`, and `apt-get dist-upgrade`? [15:53] yes, still downloading [15:53] looking forward to bugs, and more fun :) [15:54] sorry not using quassel, so no idea about that [15:59] hmm... long day [15:59] np, pcbsd? I'm trying to get c9 running on it. Easy Peasy on ubuntu, but a quick *herp*durp* on bsd. [16:04] Sicelo: \o/ welcome to the interesting side of life! (I'm on unstable) [16:05] so guys [16:05] paddatrapper: awesome :) [16:06] but my main pc will remain on stable - it is my router/AP, MTA, etc. so i don't need it to break [16:06] I got quassel working [16:06] turns out quassel =/= quassel client [16:07] but now how do I connect to my znc [16:07] well done jerit__ [16:07] look in your nick panel and see who uses quassel [16:08] or ask the fly, pro or magespawn tomorrow or if he appears tonight [16:08] ctcp version all 35 people here who aren't me you mean? [16:08] don't /version me .. irssi :) [16:08] dont you see host names [16:09] I just see nicks [16:09] in settings should be show host names [16:12] i dunno quassel but settings or preferences should give an option to show hosts in nick panel [16:12] what does he need that for? (sorry if i missed something) [16:13] so he can see who uses quassel [16:13] and who is cloaked etc [16:13] he needs quassel help so normally you would ask a quassel user right? [16:14] jerit__: about your 'cp' question .. looks fine your command .. just add -r or -R as otherwise sub-directories will not be descended into [16:15] thanks Sicelo ^^ I'm gonna get screwed with that particular flag a lot in the next few months I expect [16:15] the more you use it, you'll remember it ;) [16:16] nice thing is that the flag works even with scp .. which is cool [16:17] but only -r .. hence i use `cp -r` too .. to avoid getting confused when using scp [16:21] who am I!? [16:21] okay jerit without any ---___ nonsense [16:26] so with any luck I should not have any problems with getting disconnected later [16:26] are you in now jerit [16:28] I seem to be yeah [16:28] yay [16:28] connected to my znc and everything although that wasn't as straightforward as expected [16:30] normally once setup quassel is pretty stable [16:49] Back [16:50] wb [16:52] Wb [16:53] Na3iL: Yes. [17:09] magespawn: Kilos was gonna ask you to help me set up Quassel [17:09] but I'm very heppy wiff myself because I did it all on my own :P [17:09] haha [17:09] hi magespawn [17:19] howdy [17:22] jerit what did you need help with or are you sorted [17:22] ? [17:23] well I was opening Quassel Client by mistake [17:23] And then I wanted to connect to my znc as well [17:24] just the client or the all in one? [17:25] all's I wanted to do was to just chat here [17:25] haha [17:25] so Quassel Client/Quassel Core wasn't really what I was looking for [17:26] now you can bounce from a cell or other pc as well [17:27] oh because of znc? [17:27] the quassel core work more like znc [17:27] i dont know, magespawn will [17:33] there jerit the core does the bouncing without znc [17:34] You kind of have to wonder if documentation is up to date if you have to go to archive.org to get it [17:34] I'll definitely look at it when I'm less frantic trying to fix my contractor's broken code and do his documentation for him [17:34] lol theblazehen I'd wager it isn't :P [17:35] jerit: To be fair, I'm trying to port to hardware from a similar time period [17:35] lol well then maybe it is [17:38] Did I mention how fun running `make -j` is on the linux kernel with lots of ram? [17:38] Limited ram to 26GB, so had to run make twice, but 30 GB would probably have been enough [17:39] Over 2000 processes running [17:39] load of over 230 [17:42] wb jerit [17:43] this is annoying. Apparently it doesn't matter if I'm using Quassel or mIRC except that Quassel seems to be able to connect again [17:43] kill mirc then [18:03] hmm .. i might regret debian testing fast :P [18:03] no longer have hibernate/sleep in kde [18:03] 2/230/430/ [18:14] systemd suspend works, at least :-/ [18:14] the new KDE is "scary" .. has user icon that looks like it came out of Windows 10 [18:14] :-/ [18:15] haha [18:15] the UI has killed the traditional minimize, max, close buttons ... [18:16] with the side effect that i am unable now to move firefor around when it has many tabs open .. nowhere to "hold" the window :D [18:17] Sicelo have you tried many workspaces [18:17] im using 9 but dunno if 16.04 can do that [18:17] not on this new one .. but Focus-Follows-Mouse works, at least [18:18] what's 9? Ubuntu 9? [18:18] 9 seperate desktops [18:18] separate [18:18] ah [18:18] should be doable [18:19] then you use the desktop switcher to switch [18:19] found the settings .. can do up to 10 workspaces === pavlushka_ is now known as Guest91131 [18:19] Kilos: that sounds hacky :) [18:20] there should be a proper way to move windows around [18:20] i use 10 on desktop [18:20] the n you leave ff on its own space [18:21] feels like Unity now === Guest91131 is now known as pavlushka [18:21] lol [18:23] oh .. not to mention this kde is flat like windows 10 too [18:23] Microsoft Loves Linux after all, haha [18:24] that was after their smear campaign [18:25] chat later all, home time [18:25] go safe magespawn [18:26] so easiest way to move window around is to right-click them on task bar :-/ [18:31] ah .. got a theme with 'sane' buttons [18:35] hi K_K_N kzn north coast right? [18:35] Kilos: yep [18:35] right , i gotcha placed now [18:36] yep [18:37] hows the weather been, checked on the news a tornado hit Tembisa, I never knew that South Africa even has tornadoes its the first time I heard of it [18:38] yeah not often [18:38] rained in tvl even [18:39] well we definitely need the rain the water restrictions are not cool at all [18:40] if you wake up too late then no bath until it comes back [18:40] apparently something on my pc is stuffing around with my connection [18:40] I hope it rained enough above the damns [18:40] *dams [18:40] they still hoping [18:44] evening all [18:44] hi nsnzero [18:45] hi Kilos [18:46] anybody used gambas ? [18:46] K_K_N: didn't you know? The dams are empty because the sun evaporates all of the water [18:48] is it jerit, and here I was thinking that the peeps are using too much water to flush their toilets... [18:48] ...hahahahahahaahahah [18:50] oh no I think jerit may have been offended with my humour, sorry jerit, I am always joking if you did not know ;) [18:53] but on a serious note we need more rain, the last news update I heard before the rain, said that if we do not get rain soon, I think it was haelmere dam they spoke about, it would be empty by next year Feb or so [18:54] hi shadow [18:54] welcome to ubuntu-za [18:55] yes K_K_N times are hard waterwise [18:55] we lucky with our own borehole [18:56] jerit ill be in a meeting in africa channel soon, greet new peeps for me please [18:57] K_K_N: very little offends me (basically only insults to my intelligence or character) [18:57] Kilos will do my best - just really busy with testing of stuff [18:57] yep I was lucky when we were still living on the farm, we had water tanks, now we living in a residential area and no water tank :( === shadow is now known as Ra1v3n [18:58] lol @ jerit nice to know, same here ;) [18:58] hehe [19:00] :) [19:02] my connection is making me cry right now :( [19:02] maybe its just the CORS extension I've got on [19:08] (9:09:42 PM) K_K_N: my connection does that to me all the time, I have grown to live with it but it has resulted in me being constantly frustrated [19:08] LOL [19:08] and I get disconnected like almost immediately [19:27] good night all [19:27] way too cold to even attempt scrolling [19:29] hi inetpro [19:30] see email from ian please [19:30] grab a nice mug of Hot Chocolate inetpro it always warms you up [19:31] hot coffee will do the same but then you may not be able to sleep for hours [19:45] gnyt all [19:51] that looks like my bouncer [20:14] Good Night ZA! [20:15] night pavlushka [20:29] paddatrapper you here