[00:01] <bazhang> toxik, yuo know about #snappy , right?
[00:02] <toxik> I didn't. I'll make sure to check it out :D
[00:02] <bazhang> !hcl | Kyoku
[00:03] <bazhang> when in doubt Kyoku try ubuntu this item as search terms to see if linux conmpatible
[00:03] <Kyoku> hmm, i think origin should get certified and save me the trouble
[00:04] <toxik> I mean, you could liveboot and try it out
[00:04] <Kyoku> i'll let them know they suck for not being certified
[00:06] <Kyoku> hard to believe only 8 companies bothered to get certified
[00:16] <craigbass76> I've got a service set to start at boot, but I need it to start as a particular user
[00:16] <craigbass76> I'm trying to get apache ofbiz running on ubuntu sever 14.04. I can do it manually with sudo -u ofbiz /etc/init.d/ofbiz start
[00:25] <KitsuneNyaKing88> Hello
[00:27] <manjarojhk> sadf
[00:27] <manjarojhk> sf
[00:37] <solarbird> okay so this is incredibly minor, but: none of my windows clip the little corners off the rounded bits in the top bar. To wit, this thing: http://solarbird.net/Livejournal/2016-07/why-is-this.jpg
[00:37] <solarbird> Is that secretly a setting somewhere that I can adjust? it's not in gnome-tweak-tool
[00:38] <solarbird> (so i imagine it's something at the X level.)
[00:39] <Ben64> might be your display settings, your graphics driver, or something else
[00:39] <solarbird> (Ubuntu 16.04, clean install, gnome3, intel x86)
[00:40] <solarbird> reproduced across two different drivers (the nvidia proprietary and the open source one... um... I forget the name) so I don't think it's the driver.
[00:40] <solarbird> did not do this on the same hardware in 12.04 lts
[00:40] <solarbird> It's Just Weird. Like, is there a "respect transparancy" sort of setting somewhere?
[00:41] <Ben64> that's covered under "your display settings"
[00:41] <solarbird> but not in a way I can find it.
[00:41] <solarbird> i am more thinking Something in Xorg.conf
[00:42] <Ben64> no
[00:42] <Ben64> check your display settings first, check color depth
[00:43] <Nitrigaur> The point release was 6 days ago and I'm on 14.04, why haven't I got a dialogue yet asking me to upgrade to the latetst version?
[00:43] <Ben64> !ltsupgrade | Nitrigaur
[00:44] <Nitrigaur> Ben64, that's unfortunate, but better stable than buggy I guess.
[00:44] <subsume> ubuntu will automatically upgrade....?
[00:44] <Ben64> no
[00:44] <Nitrigaur> subsume, It's not Win10 ;-)
[00:44] <subsume> lol
[00:45] <subsume> sounded scary
[00:45] <subsume> i've never used a dist-upgrade in my life
[00:45] <Ben64> dist-upgrade just updates your packages
[00:45] <Ben64> you should do that often
[00:45] <Nitrigaur> I have upgraded distro's from 9.04 on on the same machine.
[00:46] <subsume> wow
[00:46] <Nitrigaur> And I'm using Ubuntu since version 5.04
[00:47] <solarbird> ubottu is pretty smart, i keep thinking it's a person
[00:47] <Nitrigaur> ^ Now, that reply
[00:47] <solarbird> nitrigaur: by contrast, i have never had a dist-upgrade in ubuntu _not_ be a trainwreck
[00:48] <Ben64> again, dist-upgrade just updates all your packages, it doesn't get you a new version of ubuntu
[00:48] <solarbird> or I should say, a version upgrade.
[00:48] <OerHeks> !dist-upgrade
[00:48] <solarbird> (sorry, but it's true. works great on debian tho')
[00:49] <Ben64> almost every problem duing an upgrade is due to 3rd party packages
[00:49] <OerHeks> indeed, or 'proposed'
[00:50] <sarthor> HI, I want to start dclock on remote server via ssh, but command says "Error: Can't open display:", how to run dclock on remote computer.
[00:50] <solarbird> ben64: http://solarbird.net/Livejournal/2016-07/ubuntu-right-fs-640.jpg and http://solarbird.net/Livejournal/2016-07/ubuntu-wrong-fs-640.jpg
[00:50] <solarbird> ben64: that was not fun
[00:50] <Nitrigaur> solarbird, Oh, I wouldn't say I didn't have any bumps on the road. Pulse Audio and not being able to see my optical drives, nVidia driver compatibility issues, Continuous reboots. Yes, I've made some growls against the stability and my system config. is rife with hacks and ppa's.
[00:51] <bobby-barker> Anyone know of an issue in 16.04 where audio will stutter on output? I searched -- removed time schedule or something like that as a guide said to -- made it better but hasn't fixed it completely
[00:51] <whitephoenix> Hey guys something happened to my secondary hard drive while I was installing gentoo onto a usb stick just for practice. After booting back in normally, my secondary hard drive had to be removed from fstab to boot. It seems to have a boot flag now, gparted says unknown filesystem, but strings /dev/sda | less lists my files that are on it, how can I restore it to working order?
[00:51] <Ben64> solarbird: doesn't matter
[00:52] <solarbird> ben64: most certainly does! that's my /home partition and it wouldn't let me include it in the install without formatting it because the installer decided it was ext2 and By God Would Not Accept Otherwise.
[00:52] <Ben64> just don't check the format button, done
[00:52] <solarbird> ben64: (ext4 is correct)
[00:52] <OerHeks> whitephoenix, sounds like you installed it to the wrong device, or the bootloader to the wrong device, dunno about gentoo
[00:52] <Ben64> it doesn't matter if it says ext2
[00:53] <solarbird> ben64: NO. it would declare it ext2, then fail to mount it correctly as ext2, OR, if I told it it was ext4, it would INSIST upon formatting it, or refuse to install.
[00:53] <whitephoenix> OerHeks, but it does say my files are still there, I was very careful to put everything on the usb not my hard drive
[00:53] <solarbird> ben64: "mount as ext4 and do not format" was _not an option_.
[00:54] <Ben64> solarbird: you can mount ext4 as ext2, ext2 as ext4. it still doesn't matter
[00:54] <solarbird> ben64: I ended up letting it make a /home on / and adding it to fstab later.
[00:54] <solarbird> ben64: NO. The installer would try, and fail.
[00:54] <Ben64> you did it wrong then
[00:54] <solarbird> ben64: It's the _installation GUI_. there are _very few ways to do it_.
[00:54] <whitephoenix> I get "mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1" when I try to mount it. dmesg | tail says EXT4-fs (sda): VFS: Can't find ext4 filesystem
[00:56] <Ben64> whitephoenix: try testdisk
[00:57] <OerHeks> whitephoenix, is this UEFI?
[00:57] <whitephoenix> Ben64, doesn't that require having another hard drive that is larger?
[00:57] <whitephoenix> OerHeks, I honestly have no idea
[00:57] <Ben64> no
[00:57] <Ben64> it can search for deleted partitions
[00:57] <whitephoenix> alright I'll try it
[00:57] <sarthor> HI, I want to start dclock on remote server via ssh, but command says "Error: Can't open display:", how to run dclock on remote computer.
[00:58] <sarthor> Sorry. pasted in same channel.
[00:59] <whitephoenix> alright just ran testdisk, seems to have gone well, gotta reboot to test it
[01:01] <whitephoenix> still getting an error when trying to mount it
[01:02] <ctesiphon> How do I deal with tens of functions with the same name but in different modules? do I have to deal with qualified imports, or is there another way?
[01:07] <whitephoenix> yeah testdisk seems to change nothing
[01:22] <shravangov> I installed dhcp server on my ubuntu  and made relevent changes...now when I try  " sudo service isc-dhcp-server start" it says "unable to resolve host shravan-desktop"
[01:25] <m0rf3o> Hi, i resently install ubuntu 14.04lts in a laptop, the problem begin in the internet, the machine connect to wifi correctly, but when i try to navigate or to make ping to other machins in network dont do it
[01:27] <Finn> Heeeeelllooo
[01:27] <shravangov>  I installed dhcp server on my ubuntu  and made relevent changes...now when I try  " sudo service isc-dhcp-server start" it says "unable to resolve host shravan-desktop"
[01:29] <whitephoenix> Testdisk didn't work, what next?
[01:38] <mint_> hi
[01:39] <OerHeks> :-)
[01:40] <elias_a> Hey, let's help the Dutch with this good petition: https://petities.nl/petitions/computers-moeten-zonder-besturingssysteem-worden-verkocht?locale=en
[01:41] <elias_a> "Computerdevices should be sold without operating system"
[01:41] <OerHeks> elias_a, please don't spam, thanks
[01:42] <elias_a> OerHeks: I'm sorry. Given the subject of the petition I'd say it is not off topic.
[01:42] <OerHeks> yes it is. move it to #linux or elsewhere
[01:43] <elias_a> OerHeks: Ok. Sorry.
[01:57] <R13ose> Chrome is frozen but I can still use this on and off if I do things and switch windows.  I am using Plasma KDE.  Any ideas on how to fix?
[01:58] <flash_drive> Kubuntu?
[01:58] <nicholas_> hop
[01:58] <flash_drive> hop?
[01:59] <R13ose> flash_drive: actually Ubuntu but installed KDE
[01:59] <flash_drive> Okay
[02:00] <flash_drive> There is a video to fix it on Joe Collin's youtube channel.
[02:01] <aidenn> sup?
[02:01] <flash_drive> Yo Aidenn
[02:01] <aidenn> what up?
[02:02] <flash_drive> about to optimise my swappiness
[02:02] <aidenn> haha good luck
[02:02] <flash_drive> i've done that 100 times
[02:02] <flash_drive> easy :)
[02:03] <knob> Hello everyone.  I have two n00b questions.  I downloaded Android Studio... unzipped the file, and now I have the whole directory structure.  If in the command line I go to /android-studio/bin/ and run ./studio.sh   , it brings up Android Studio GUI.
[02:03] <knob> My two questions: Where should I move this bin?   To   /usr/local/bin   and drop it in there?            And then, how could I create a shortcut so I can access Android Studio GUI   via Alt+F2
[02:03] <aidenn> haha good
[02:03] <R13ose> flash_drive: a video for me?  If so, can you link this?
[02:04] <flash_drive> yea just gimme a sec.
[02:05] <aidenn> gtg, luck
[02:06] <flash_drive> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCPWFAYt4LM
[02:06] <flash_drive> there
[02:08] <Mouaad> hello, is anyone have an idea how to get the list of the content of a zip file without download it ? :D
[02:11] <nthrow> man zip
[02:12] <nthrow> without downloading it? maybe quantum tunneling.
[02:12] <R13ose> flash_drive: testing
[02:13] <trism> Mouaad: probably no easy way since zip stores the index at the end of the file
[02:14] <supercom32> Has anyone gotten x2go-server to work with Ubuntu 16.04 yet?
[02:21] <flash_drive> Ubuntu 16.04 is unstable.
[02:22] <Mouaad> trism oh :/ .. not too practical
[02:23] <derfoh> Would someone point me to an up to date guide for setting up vagrant on ubuntu 16.04? I seem to be finding a mixed bag of methods and I'm having little success with getting any of them to work.
[02:24] <derfoh> I would bestow upon them many imaginary internet brownie points.
[02:42] <MrAngry> good morning everyone, can someone please help me with "sudo mii-tool -v -F 1000baseTx-HD enp3s0" ? cause it is throwing "Invalid media specification '1000baseTx-HD'." error, while both my ethernet card and the mii-tool command itself both support 1000baseTx, but I am getting the error anyhows, which seems like a sick joke and I am having the worst
[02:42] <MrAngry>  headache about this in ubuntu. why is this happening?
[02:43] <MrAngry> how can i fix this gentlemen?
[02:44] <MrAngry> by the way I am trying to move some files between my laptop and pc, so no switches with unsupported link speeds in between. and in previous version of ubuntu I used to get 1G speed
[02:44] <MrAngry> help me please
[02:44] <MrAngry> ;(
[02:46] <MrAngry> folks?
[02:48] <misiek> too dificult
[02:54] <r_rios> Hello, all. My system locale remains unchanged after I run locale-gen and dpkg-reconfigure locales. I'm running a Kubuntu 16.04 install upgraded from a 14.04 one with the same problem. Any ideas_
[03:11] <Loshki> too angry
[03:25] <shean> heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!
[03:25] <yonakaKuramori> Hi.
[03:26] <shean> hi,nice 2 meet you
[03:28] <shean> some guy leaves you because them not here with you but i am here right now, ___syntax error?
[03:53] <gnumonk> hi
[03:54] <gnumonk> How to change the tmux client name, it comes like [0] and [1] ?
[04:04] <eric> bonjour
[04:14] <ptahra> hello, how do we go to console mode, and exit X ubuntu?
[04:15] <gretin> Ctrl-Alt-F1 ?
[04:16] <ptahra> ok thanks
[04:16] <ptahra> let me see if that works
[04:20] <elem> mate hungup on install
[04:20] <gretin> Hi everyone, I have an issue with unity not loading after logging into an Ubuntu 16.04 installation that was upgraded from 14.10->15.04->15.10->16.04. Any help would be appreciated, details can be found here: https://paste.ubuntu.com/21101554/
[04:20] <elem> i should just format it all
[04:29] <ptahra> almost didnt come back lol, so to come back its alt f9?
[04:31] <ptahra> to come back to x session its alt f9
[04:39] <gretin> ptahra: I think it's ctrl-alt-f7
[04:39] <Triffid_Hunter> gretin: depends which terminal the X server is running on
[04:40] <Triffid_Hunter> 7 is the default but sometimes folks put gettys on more terminals or have multiple X server instances running, and it has to choose something higher
[04:40] <gretin> ah ok well then try everything ptahra :P
[04:40] <ph0tonic> hello
[04:40] <ph0tonic> is anyone seeing this?
[04:41] <ph0tonic> i have 14.04 on one of my old systems, is it true that x32 is going to be discontinued?
[04:42] <ph0tonic> x86 rather
[04:42] <part_me> hello
[04:42] <part_me> anyone see me?
[04:42] <Triffid_Hunter> ph0tonic: no idea, but there'll still be LTS releases around for ages
[04:42] <ph0tonic> yay
[04:42] <ph0tonic> has an old netbook which he is trying to swap the MB on
[04:43] <part_me> who has an old notebook?
[04:43] <ph0tonic> so far no luck, although it nearly fits most of the connectors are different
[04:43] <ph0tonic> its an hp mini 9 with borked network and sd slot
[04:43] <orlock> ph0tonic: If its a different brand/model, then yeah it's not going to fit
[04:43] <ph0tonic> i can however simply use an extenal NIC
[04:43] <ph0tonic> its virtually identical, from a slightly more recent hp mini
[04:44] <ph0tonic> the connectors are in the same place apart from the vga and network
[04:44] <ph0tonic> even the on/off switch fits
[04:44] <ph0tonic> heatsink/fan etc are similar and again the fan connector is different but this is simply a trivial mod
[04:45] <ph0tonic> the cpu is actually identical atom dual core
[04:45] <ph0tonic> its ddr3l not ddr2 however
[04:45] <part_me> these hp mini are so failure friendly
[04:46] <ph0tonic> indeed. If the HDD/RAM/fan breaks its a trivial repair needing only a couple of screws
[04:46] <ph0tonic> i might sell the old MB on
[04:46] <ph0tonic> "minor dings and dents: ideal for fixing machine with cracked/totally dead MB"
[04:47] <orlock> Didnt you say nic and sd were stuffed?
[04:47] <ph0tonic> the onboard NIC and SD are controlled by the same chip so pretty sure that is dead
[04:47] <ph0tonic> loathe to remove it in case it dies completely
[04:47] <ph0tonic> also the chip on the new MB is not the same
[04:47] <ph0tonic> Indeed. The previous owner ripped the SD out because it was stuck, tearing half the pads off the board
[04:48] <ph0tonic> I attempted to patch it up but no chance
[04:48] <ph0tonic> Even tried conducting epoxy
[04:49] <ph0tonic> but this would be an ideal ubuntu machine
[04:49] <ph0tonic> decent ram, dual core n series atom
[05:01] <TheNH813> Thanks to some help earlier on here, I got Runescape working. :D
[05:02] <TheNH813> But.... Runescape freezes after caching around 1200MB of map data, or about 20 minutes.
[05:02] <TheNH813> Just an annoyance. #FirstWorldProblems :P
[05:02] <TheNH813> But I wonder if my java settings have to do with it?
[05:02] <TheNH813> Hm.....
[05:03] <TheNH813> Well, just though I'd drop by to say it's working if the person who helped me earlier is still on.
[05:26] <intrapata> hello
[05:29] <TheFocus> afternoon... any ideas how to upgrade from 16.04 to 16.04.1?
[05:30] <madsa> TheFocus, run 'apt update && apt full-upgrade' from the command line
[05:30] <madsa> I think that should do it
[05:31] <TheFocus> madsa...  Thanks... will give it a go.
[05:31] <hhdjs> hello
[05:34] <mikhael_k33hl> Installed Ubuntu 16.04, tried to update I get this error message about GPG: http://pastebin.com/kUtewdtA
[05:35] <miharu> hi.
[05:36] <mikhael_k33hl> and why does it get its update from opensuse
[05:36] <miharu> so... I've just installed ubuntu. For those who dual booting, how do you manage file shared between two OS?
[05:37] <Triffid_Hunter> miharu: linux should be able to access your windows files without problems. windows has zero clue about linux files, so anything you need to share goes on the windows partition
[05:38] <TheFocus> madsa:  apt update && apt full-upgrade is not permissable (locked file)
[05:38] <madsa> TheFocus, sorry, prefix that with 'sudo'
[05:38] <madsa> so run 'sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade'
[05:38] <madsa> you have to be root
[05:38] <miharu> Triffid_Hunter: so there is no need for another installation, just make the windows made partition?
[05:39] <Triffid_Hunter> miharu: not sure what you mean
[05:39] <TheFocus> madsa: Thought that might be the case and also gave it a try... Nothing comes up for update but running 16.04 on system
[05:40] <TheFocus> 0 to upgrade, 0 to newly install, 0 to remove and 0 not to upgrade.
[05:40] <miharu> So, I just make another partition on windows, then mark them as active so that windows can use it, then just log on to ubuntu?
[05:41] <miharu> any file in that partition can be accessed by both?
[05:43] <miharu> on not entirely unrelated note, any good ebook manager and reader?
[05:45] <madsa> TheFocus, what output do you get if you run 'lsb_release -a'?
[05:45] <madsa> does it show you're running 16.04 or 16.04.1?
[05:48] <TheFocus> madsa: Description: Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS   Release: 16.04    - Is that indicating im running 16.04.1 LTS???
[05:50] <madsa> TheFocus, I think you are ;)
[05:51] <TheFocus> madsa:  Thanks mate...  The 'about system' option is noting 16.04 but not suprised it is not relecting the update.  Cheers.  Over.
[05:59] <flash_drive> can anyone of you help me accessing Linux Mint Network?
[06:01] <jrmiah> here's a tricky one - anyone know how to create a preseed file that updates the initramfs?
[06:02] <OerHeks> !mint
[06:02] <OerHeks> flash_drive, if you have trouble entering their forum, ask in the irc channel
[06:03] <flash_drive> i have problems accessing their irc network
[06:04] <flash_drive>  Looking up irc.spotchat.org
[06:04] <flash_drive> * Unknown host. Maybe you misspelled it?
[06:05] <OerHeks> no, the name is correct. good luck then
[06:06] <hhfghfff> n
[06:06] <flash_drive> maybe the problem is in the server.
[06:06] <hhfghfff> hi there guys
[06:06] <flash_drive> hello
[06:06] <flash_drive> hhfghfff
[06:06] <hhfghfff> can i ask about nfs thing
[06:07] <flash_drive> ya
[06:07] <hhfghfff> can i ask raspberrpi thingbin here th0?
[06:07] <hhfghfff> hi there flash
[06:08] <hhfghfff> typo err sorry, i mean raspberry pi, can i ask it here?
[06:11] <OerHeks> hhfghfff, rasp pi is arm, try #ubuntu-arm
[06:11] <hhfghfff> ty oerheks :)
[06:13] <moneylotion> hey all, does anyone have any ideas how i can pair down ubuntu, to get it below 1gb ram at idel
[06:13] <moneylotion> ohh nevermind, chromium was using a ton of ram
[06:16] <notadeveloper> nvidia card and radeon card can both exists in ubuntu?
[06:16] <lotuspsychje> !info preload | moneylotion install this to get things smoother
[06:17] <moneylotion> ubottu, what do i install?
[06:17] <OerHeks> notadeveloper, you can, all you need is to write a xorg.conf to define both cards
[06:18] <notadeveloper> i did
[06:18] <notadeveloper> it says could not load ctrc 117
[06:20] <OerHeks> notadeveloper, hard to say, can you paste your xorg.conf on paste.ubuntu.com ? so others can have a look?
[06:20] <notadeveloper> i just removed nvidia cards and install
[06:20] <lotuspsychje> moneylotion: sudo apt-get install preload
[06:20] <notadeveloper> reinstall ubuntu
[06:23] <vahvero> i have weird problem. I try to connect with samba server where is libreoffice odt file and i can't open it. error is general I/O-error. So gvfs has maybe issues. With Linux Mint there isn't problem. Hmm.
[06:24] <vahvero> even if i make new file and move it to server. i can't open it with libreoffice.  Normal text file i can open with mousepad and do editing.
[06:25] <Guest83807> Hi
[06:27] <Guest83807> I installed Ubuntu 16 after i tried it using the live version but, after i installed it , there is no ideo on the screen.
[06:28] <lotuspsychje> !nomodeset | Guest83807
[06:29] <Guest83807> i tried to boot from advanced options-> fail safe graphics
[06:38] <JayneHJKL> hello, can anyone help me with a suspend issue?
[06:38] <Guest83807> #quit
[06:39] <Guest83807> quit
[06:39] <YankDownUnder> Guest83807: type: /quit
[06:51] <solarbird> I was on earlier, but: anybody know how to make this particular bit of clipping work? It is the only graphic artefact I am seeing, it shows up using multiple drivers, it didn't show up in my previous install (12.04 LTS), it shows up now (16.04 LTS), nvidia, x86: http://solarbird.net/Livejournal/2016-07/why-is-this.jpg
[06:52] <solarbird> 16.04 LTS was a clean install and is up to date, xorg.conf is as created by the driver and makes sense regardless. running gnome3.
[06:52] <solarbird> (tried unity for a few days, did not like it sry.)
[07:05] <ducasse> solarbird: if there is a man page for the nvidia driver, you can browse through that for options that might help
[07:09] <dwynwen_ddlleyw> Are there any good screen readers for Ubuntu?
[07:16] <solarbird> ducasse: I have. Also, it appears the exact same way with the nouveau driver, the open-source one for nvidia, as well as the nvidia-written proprietary driver.
[07:17] <solarbird> so i'm fairly certain this is a configuration matter with X or with gnome3.
[07:17] <solarbird> but where to start, I do not know.
[07:27] <IOF> can anyone help my Ubuntu 6 has brokern trying to upgrade to 16.04?
[07:27] <ducasse> IOF: ubuntu _6_?
[07:27] <IOF> Im kidding just testing if anyone was active
[07:28] <ptah> lol
[07:29] <IOF> its actually 7.10
[07:29] <IOF> :)
[07:29] <ptah> i have ubuntu 8>04
[07:29] <ptah> i have ubuntu 8.04
[07:30] <IOF> 8.04 was the best
[07:30] <IOF> gnome 2 :)
[07:31] <ptah> its on a mini dell laptop, im trying to get flash to work
[07:31] <Maxou88> sHey I have an issue with my ubuntu laptop. When i install ubutu on it few month ago check yes for encrypt my /home directory but now i need to make more space avalaible so and its seems ecryptfs double the disk usage of my home this is true ??
[07:32] <IOF> ptah lol good look with flash, but then again bad look will come if you get it working
[07:32] <ducasse> Maxou88: no, it does not.
[07:32] <OerHeks> Maxou88, encryption takes bytes, but does not double the size
[07:33] <IOF> the internet has killed my spelling luck*
[07:35] <warbaque> I think that first linux I installed was Ubuntu 5.04 or 5.10
[07:35] <ptah> mine was redhat
[07:35] <Maxou88> Can i remove this .ecryptfs from my home witheout data loss ?
[07:36] <IOF> Maxou88 if you want true encryption encrypt the whgole drive not just partitions
[07:38] <Maxou88> I dont need any encryption now
[07:38] <ducasse> Maxou88: you would need to backup your unencrypted data, wipe /home and restore it.
[07:40] <Maxou88> so I backup /home/.ecryptfs in an external disk
[07:40] <Maxou88> then i remove all my home ?
[07:40] <Maxou88> then i restore my home from my backup ?
[07:40] <ducasse> Maxou88: no, the _unencrypted_ data, not the encrypted.
[07:40] <IOF> Maxou88 no just mount /home unencrypted and copy the data off.
[07:41] <IOF> the whole point of encrypting data is so it cant be recovered
[07:44] <Maxou88> the du of my /home is 21GO and i have 15GO left so i can't mount a new home unencrypted
[07:44] <IOF> Maxou88 you cant get your data then
[07:44] <Triffid_Hunter> Maxou88: usb stick :P
[07:45] <IOF> unless you want to attempt cracking the algorithm
[07:45] <Maxou88> i need to clean
[07:45] <ducasse> Maxou88: it _is_ mounted unencrypted when you log in.
[07:45] <fenix> dstrowatch.com downloads a php files csmnx.php !! its happening for all
[07:45] <Maxou88> ducasse i dont know
[07:46] <fenix> dstrowatch.com downloads a php file called csmnx.php !! is it happening for all ?
[07:46] <IOF> ducasse it wont be monted unencrypted unless the pass phrase has been entered
[07:46] <ducasse> Maxou88: i'm telling you. just copy off what you need, and don't backup .ecryptfs - that is the encrypted data.
[07:46] <ducasse> IOF: he has never mentioned problems logging in, so afaik he has that.
[07:47] <IOF> ducasse encyrpted data is encypted data login has nothing to do with it
[07:47] <ducasse> IOF: yes, because pam unlocks an ecryptfs-encrypted /home with your login password.
[07:48] <IOF> Maxou88 if you havent decypted it then the data is useless untill you can
[07:48] <IOF> ducasse really thats pretty insecure if it does
[07:49] <ducasse> IOF: why? a passphrase is a passphrase.
[07:49] <Maxou88> i m really confused ..
[07:49] <ducasse> Maxou88: you can log in and see your homedir, right?
[07:49] <Maxou88> how can know really how muck disk space use the encryption ?
[07:49] <IOF> encrypted data needs a pass phrase why else would you bother encrypting it
[07:50] <Maxou88> of cours i can see all dir
[07:50] <ducasse> Maxou88: good, then just backup what you want.
[07:50] <IOF> that sounds like very lame encryption
[07:51] <ducasse> IOF: your login password _is_ the passphrase, in effect. (it's actually used to unwrap your passphrase, but...)
[07:52] <IOF> ducasse no it isnt not with any drive encryption Ive come across anyway
[07:52] <ducasse> IOF: ok, i'm just ignoring you now.
[07:52] <IOF> like I said lame encyption if it is
[07:53] <Maxou88> so I pluged my external drive
[07:53] <trijntje> Maxou88: encrypting your data takes 0 extra space
[07:53] <warbaque> login password and encryption password shouldn't have anything to do with each others unless you set them up to be same
[07:53] <trijntje> so there is no point in removing the encryption for that reason
[07:54] <Maxou88> trijntje so why when i launch baobab
[07:54] <Maxou88> to see disk usage for each folder
[07:54] <Maxou88> in my home
[07:54] <warbaque> usually you encrypt the whole block device so it'll look like it's full at all times
[07:54] <trijntje> Maxou88: because linux pretends like it also has all your files unencrypted, but thats just a trick
[07:55] <ducasse> Maxou88: you are actually reading the encrypted data
[07:55] <trijntje> secretly it decrypts the files in the background the moment you need them
[07:55] <Maxou88> I have my $user with 20GO and .ecryptfs same size ?
[07:55] <trijntje> Maxou88: yeah, the $user dir is fake, it just reads the .ecryptfs through and interface that decrypts it on the fly
[07:55] <trijntje> its the same data
[07:55] <ducasse> Maxou88: .ecryptfs is what is actually using space.
[07:55] <IOF> ducase your miss advising
[07:56] <Maxou88> mmmm
[07:56] <trijntje> like I said, encryption takes 0 extra space, all that is present on the harddisk is the .ecryptfs folder
[07:56] <Maxou88> ok so there is not point to delete encryption because disk usage
[07:56] <trijntje> Maxou88: correct
[07:56] <ducasse> Maxou88: no.
[07:57] <daniel6644> Hey Guys, I have a new hd mounted and formatted in "/mnt/Transfer-3/" I want to get plex to Sync all items from the default directory to this new directory. Will a mount or some kind of link allow me to do this?
[07:57] <IOF> Maxou88 yes ignore ducasse
[07:57] <Maxou88> ok sorry for disturb you then and thank for you help ;p
[07:57] <IOF> ducasse go google encryption ffs
[07:58] <IOF> daniel6644 /mnt/Transfer-3/ is the path so thats all you should need
[07:59] <Triffid_Hunter> daniel6644: symlink usually works for that sort of thing
[07:59] <IOF> daniel6644 but mounting the disk in fstab by uuid to the mount point you want would be best
[07:59] <daniel6644> ok
[08:00] <IOF> symlinks are dirty
[08:00] <daniel6644> Would this mount work "mount --bind /var/lib/plexmediaserver/Library/Application\ Support/Plex\ Media\ Server/Cache/Transcode/Sync+ /home/Sync+"
[08:00] <IOF> white space is dirty also
[08:00] <daniel6644> sorry this Would this mount work "mount --bind /var/lib/plexmediaserver/Library/Application\ Support/Plex\ Media\ Server/Cache/Transcode/Sync+ /mnt/Transfer-3"
[08:01] <IOF> daniel6644 why bind mount it?
[08:02] <IOF> daniel6644 best way and this way would mount it at boot. Would be to add to fstab by uuid
[08:02] <daniel6644> what should the fstab UUID mount look like
[08:02] <IOF> daniel6644 is it mounted now?
[08:03] <daniel6644> yes
[08:03] <IOF> daniel6644 ok ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/
[08:04] <IOF> in a terminal
[08:04] <daniel6644> I have a few ssd disk. I dont know wich disk it is.
[08:04] <daniel6644> oh found it sdc
[08:04] <IOF> daniel6644 how many disks you have attached?
[08:05] <daniel6644> 3
[08:05] <daniel6644> ok I have the UUID
[08:05] <IOF> daniel6644 ok cool the uuid is the bit in blue at the end of each entry
[08:05] <daniel6644> yup got it
[08:05] <IOF> sorry yellow
[08:05] <IOF> no blue nvm
[08:06] <IOF> daniel6644 sudo nano /etc/fstab
[08:06] <daniel6644> sweet
[08:06] <Maxou88> if i want to extend my ubuntu partition with 20go with an unallocated space avalaible should the ext4 part ?
[08:06] <Maxou88> +rezise
[08:07] <IOF> daniel6644 in there you should see some entriies
[08:07] <daniel6644> yup
[08:07] <IOF> daniel6644 you can put it anywhere it dont matter but I usually put them in order
[08:08] <IOF> daniel6644 enter UUID=3e21f5bd-9234-4de6-9ee2-6333b11673e7 /mountpoint ext4 errors=remount-ro 0 0
[08:08] <daniel6644> ok thanks
[08:09] <IOF> daniel6644 replace the uuid with what you got earlier
[08:09] <daniel6644> yup done
[08:09] <Fi_> help?
[08:10] <IOF> daniel6644 try a sudo mount -a to check for any errors
[08:12] <daniel6644> IOF: thanks mate. all good
[08:12] <IOF> daniel6644 cool
[08:13] <moneylotion> hey gang, any significant battery tricks besides or including tlp?
[08:13] <Fi_> so... I don't understand './configure', anyone can explain to me?
[08:14] <k1l_> !compile
[08:14] <k1l_> Fi_: ^
[08:14] <media__> nice
[08:14] <Fi_> k1l_: which?
[08:14] <IOF> Fi_ if you dont understand ./configure dont even bother compiling use the repos
[08:15] <k1l_> Fi_: did you look up the link the bot gave out?
[08:15] <media__> what other phrases prompt ubottu?
[08:15] <k1l_> !brain | media__
[08:16] <media__> ty
[08:16] <AWatcher> I installed Ubuntu as a bootcamp instance and regretted it after a week... High DPI displays like the Retina don't really play well with it
[08:16] <IOF> ubottu devnull
[08:16] <Fi_> k1l_ sorry, distracted. Anyway, there's nothing in the repo.
[08:16] <IOF> !ubottu devnull
[08:16] <IOF> ubottu !devnull
[08:16] <k1l_> Fi_: read the bots link the the ubuntu help documentation. it explains what configure does.
[08:17] <IOF> !devnull | ubottu
[08:17] <media__> @AWatcher does anything other than OSX look good with retina?
[08:17] <AWatcher> Windows but it fails the usability test
[08:17] <AWatcher> *also takes altering the display "Make text bigger" option to get right
[08:18] <Fi_> yeah... no such file or directory?
[08:18] <k1l_> !compile > Fi_
[08:18] <IOF> Fi_ if your compiling you will most likely get dependecy issues have you looked if theres a ppa
[08:19] <warbaque> Fi_: are you in the correct folder?
[08:19] <k1l_> Fi_: ok, i made the bot pm you the link once again. please read the page to get to know what configure does on a compile.
[08:19] <Fi_> Mm? I've read it.
[08:19] <k1l_> Fi_: so what is the issue now?
[08:20] <IOF> prolly dependency hell
[08:20] <Fi_> I've read the ./configure --help. It doesn't show anything.
[08:20] <Fi_> and executing ./configure gives 'no such file or directory'
[08:21] <ducasse> Fi_: have you cloned a git repo?
[08:21] <k1l_> Fi_: does "ls -al" list a configure file at all?
[08:22] <Fi_> k1l_ : at the unpacked tar? no.
[08:22] <k1l_> Fi_: and are you sure you need to compile at all? what software is it?
[08:22] <Fi_> Rstudio
[08:22] <IOF> Fi_ for questions like this we need your dist version and what your trying to install
[08:22] <Fi_> ubuntu 16.04?
[08:23] <IOF> Fi_ what are rstudios requirements?
[08:23] <OerHeks> oh dear, not unpacked.. tar xjf <name>.tar
[08:23] <k1l_> Fi_: did you download the source code or the packaged binary?
[08:24] <ikonia> isn't rstudio obsolete now
[08:24] <IOF> if it is good luck compiling on 16.04
[08:24] <k1l_> and rstudio is even shipping .deb files
[08:25] <ikonia> they have a repo
[08:25] <ikonia> https://cran.rstudio.com/
[08:25] <IOF> .debs will fail if its using an obsolete dependency
[08:26] <IOF> so will a repo
[08:26] <ikonia> it looks like those debs will pull in a lovely set of packages to overwrite and create conflicts later
[08:26] <ikonia> but they have a repo for 16.04 with dependencies
[08:26] <ikonia> so no need to compile anything
[08:27] <warbaque> but compiling is fun :)
[08:27] <Fi_> isn't the repo for R only?
[08:28] <IOF> warbaque its fun on a distro like Gentoo
[08:28] <IOF> when you compile everything
[08:28] <IOF> binary dists not so
[08:28] <Fi_> ikonia: I've installed R through repo, after that what should I do?
[08:28] <warbaque> I prefer arch, best of both worlds
[08:30] <juangalvez> hello
[08:30] <juangalvez> hola
[08:30] <Fi_> hello.
[08:31] <juangalvez> hablas smapnish
[08:31] <juangalvez> spanish
[08:31] <ducasse> !es | juangalvez
[08:31] <IOF> printf('hello world')
[08:31] <juangalvez> python
[08:32] <IOF> print 'hello'
[08:33] <IOF> I think its print(hello) in python 3
[08:33] <IOF> plus the brackets
[08:33] <warbaque> print("hello") in pyhon3
[08:34] <warbaque> " and ' are interchangeable in python
[08:34] <IOF> python 3 sucks
[08:34] <k1l_> can we focus on ubuntu support again?
[08:34] <juangalvez> nombre="Juan" edad=27 print ("Mi nombre es: ",nombre,"y mi edad es: ",edad)
[08:35] <k1l_> Fi_: so why dont you use the .deb packages from rstudio?
[08:35] <k1l_> juangalvez: #python is the channel for python support
[08:35] <Fi_> haa... I should say that I just installed ubuntu today.
[08:36] <Fi_> k1l_: how? by editing the etc/apt/sources.list and add the repo for R?
[08:36] <k1l_> Fi_: no
[08:36] <Fi_> teach me?
[08:37] <IOF> k1l if they have a repo that would be right
[08:37] <Fi_> k1l_: teach me?
[08:37] <k1l_> IOF: no. 3rd party repos dont belong into the sources.list but into the sources.list.d folder
[08:37] <OerHeks> IOF, wrong, ppa's have their own instance in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[08:38] <IOF> it works !
[08:38] <k1l_> Fi_: the rstudio website offers to download .deb packages. try that
[08:38] <Fi_> okay, first thing I seem to have to do is learning Ubuntu. any links for a beginner like me?
[08:38] <k1l_> IOF: ubuntu handles 3rd party repos differently. that is why they are excluded from the sources.list
[08:38] <OerHeks> IOF, don't misadvise ( your own words)
[08:38] <IOF> but I see in the intrest of standards
[08:39] <kittykitty> its been almost a week since 16.04.1 was released, still cant upgrade from 14.04 yet. Anyone know why? Are the repos STILL not updated??
[08:39] <IOF> k1l no it doesent apt /aptitude both read the sources.list
[08:40] <IOF> they may overwrite anything in them thats why the Linux community advices to use the .d dir for overrides
[08:40] <OerHeks> IOF wrong.
[08:40] <k1l_> IOF: sure it does. like i said ubuntu handles 3rd party repos differently. like on upgrades.
[08:41] <ducasse> !ltsupgrade | kittykitty
[08:41] <IOF> OerHeks no Im not
[08:41] <Fi_> I become more confused.
[08:41] <kittykitty> thanks ubottu, didnt know that
[08:41] <kittykitty> bit weird that the iso is out but not the upgrade though
[08:41] <k1l_> IOF: this channel is ubuntu specific support and deals with the specifics the ubuntu setup got. so the ubuntu way is to put 3rd party repos int the sources.list.d folder.
[08:42] <vahvero> has anybody check the problem what i had?
[08:42] <Fi_> vahvero: no, I'm a beginner.
[08:43] <OerHeks> vahvero, repeat your question please, too long ago
[08:44] <IOF> k1l I respect that Im just giving support, bear in mind I use many distros
[08:44] <k1l_> Fi_: on the rstudio website they offer to download .deb packages for ubuntu. did you try that?
[08:45] <adroit_machine> what is the official wine channel?
[08:46] <vahvero> OerHeks, ok
[08:46] <OerHeks> #winehq
[08:46] <adroit_machine> thanks, OerHeks
 I dont know but play on linux would probably be a better option
[08:47] <IOF> it handles alot of thee wine setup for you
[08:47] <vahvero> OerHeks, so i get general I/O-error when im connected with gvfs to samba server. I can't open odt files with libreoffice. Everything else seems to work. When i connect with Linux Mint it works.
[08:47] <adroit_machine> IOF: i can't install wine or play on linux on my distro, it removes nVIDIA libraries
[08:48] <Luther> heya guys anyone here has worked with Nagios before?
[08:48] <blackjokie> hello
[08:48] <Triffid_Hunter> adroit_machine: lol wut
 I dont know again but are you using proprietqary drivers?
[08:50] <adroit_machine> IOF: Yes, i'm using nvidia drivers for my gpu
[08:50] <IOF> I suspect thats where the issue is then
[08:52] <OerHeks> adroit_machine, how did you install the nvidia driver? through the driver menu?
[08:52] <ducasse> Luther: it's better to just ask your question, but for nagios you might get more help in #ubuntu-server
[08:52] <adroit_machine> OerHeks: Yes, through the  proprietry driver menu
[08:52] <OerHeks> oke
[08:52] <Luther> allright ty @ducasse
[08:53] <Luther> hi guys, just a short question if i want to use notifications i have to install a plugin to do this like https://github.com/jasonhancock/nagios-html-email/blob/master/README.md or i can set up an email server. Is this correct?  i am new to nagios so please do not tear me in pieces if i oversee something obvious :P
[08:53] <k1l_> adroit_machine: please run "dpkg -l | grep nvidia | nc termbin.com 9999" and show the output url here
[08:53] <vahvero> OerHeks, and im using Xubuntu, but there shouldn't be so much difference.
[08:53] <vahvero> OerHeks, im doing this with thunar
[08:54] <adroit_machine> k1l_: the output is this url only: http://termbin.com/8kak
[08:54] <k1l_> adroit_machine: yes, the url is correct
[08:54] <adroit_machine> folks at #winehq told me to download wine-hq files
[08:55] <OerHeks> vahvero, odd hat mint works, and ubuntu not, seems to be a know issue https://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/23021/solved-open-ods-or-odt-files-from-a-smb-share-throws-damaged-file-error/
[08:55] <OerHeks> c/hat/that
 you using wine from the repo?
[08:55] <k1l_> adroit_machine: wait
[08:55] <vahvero> OerHeks, well the server is also Mint :)
[08:56] <Yuji> Anyone know why an AMD APU's GPU might be seen as a completely different GPU? Got an A10-5745M which according to all specs has an HD8610G but Xorg is showing it as some kind of Aruba..
[08:56] <adroit_machine> IOF: I used synaptic to install wine 1.6
[08:56] <k1l_> adroit_machine: remove the "nvidia-libopencl1-340" package and try again to install wine
[08:57] <adroit_machine> k1l_: how do I remove it? and is there a possibility that it may break my box?
[08:57] <k1l_> sudo apt remove nvidia-libopencl1-340
[08:57] <IOF> k1l dont you mean reinstall he needs a graphics driver after all
[08:57] <k1l_> IOF: no
[08:58] <Triffid_Hunter> IOF: opencl isn't a graphics driver, it's a gpu computing library that uses the graphics driver
[08:59] <IOF> yeah but opeencl has nothing to do with nvidia
[08:59] <k1l_> the problem here is, that nvidia is not packaging the packages according to the ubuntu/debian packaging guidelines.
[08:59] <vahvero> OerHeks, thanks!!! I GOT IT :D i did install libreoffice-gnome package!!
[09:00] <IOF> k1l I see
[09:00] <OerHeks> vahvero, nice find
[09:01] <Yuji> For those of us with an AMD APU, what driver options are there now? I recall recently that fglrx is being deprecated or is, ?
[09:01] <ducasse> Yuji: in 16.04, yes.
[09:02] <Yuji> Mint 18, I'm uh, not a Unity guy. ^_^ *peace, ducks for cover* >_>; So any options available or? For some reason Xorg is showing my AMD APU's chipset as an Aruba but it is a Kabini, according to pretty much any info I see.
[09:02] <OerHeks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes#fglrx
[09:03] <IOF> yuji dont know but its probably reading diresctly from the chipset
[09:03] <Yuji> Manual probing shows HD8610G, so I'm not sure why Xorg is so confused.
[09:03] <k1l_> Yuji: ask the mint support about mint issues
[09:04] <k1l_> !mint | Yuji
[09:04] <Yuji> Unfortunately, SpotChat is down for me at the moment.
[09:04] <k1l_> since they change some stuff on updates and kernels etc.
[09:04] <OerHeks> Yuji, known issue, install the amd microcode for the update to read it correct
[09:04] <k1l_> Yuji: then try their forums
[09:04] <Yuji> That I did do, but it still shows up as an Aruba.
[09:05] <Yuji> Yeah, to the forums I go then.
[09:05] <IOF> xorg is old youd be best asking x11 support, if there is one
[09:05] <OerHeks> Yuji, then you have Arube i guess.
[09:05] <Yuji> OerHeks: Nah, something is broken. Not sure what though.
[09:06] <Yuji> IOF: Well X11, xorg, meh. Xorg.0.log, all I know. I'll look into the difference between Xorg and X11.
[09:11] <IOF> yuji xorg is x11
[09:24] <phiona> im planning to upgrade with sudo update-manager -d. will this command work on all ubuntu?
[09:24] <k1l_> phiona: stop
[09:24] <k1l_> phiona: do you know the -d is for?
[09:25] <k1l_> *what
[09:25] <phiona> no.
[09:25] <k1l_> its for development release.
[09:26] <k1l_> so if you dont want to test an unstable ubuntu release dont use that. i know that some bad websites promote to use the -d but that is a bad workaround and will cause more issues when the releases change
[09:26] <folf> Hi, I'm running 14.04.4, software updater (update-manager on the commandline) is showing all updates applied, but no available upgrade (to 16.04.1). If I set "Notify me of a new Ubuntu version" to "For any version" I get a notification that 15.10 is available. Any ideas what I could do?
[09:27] <k1l_> !ltsupgrade | folf
[09:27] <phiona> k1l_: so what should be the command? -s for stable?
[09:27] <folf> Thanks k1l_!
[09:27] <k1l_> phiona: no. what do you want to do at all?
[09:28] <k1l_> phiona: without any option it will upgrade to the next available release according to the release-prompt set.
[09:28] <Aazad> is anyone here ??
[09:29] <Aazad> i need help
[09:29] <ducasse> !ask | Aazad
[09:29] <phiona> k1l_: automatically?
[09:30] <k1l_> phiona: it will not automatically upgrade to the next release. the update-manager will notify you when a new release is available and ask you if you want to upgrade
[09:30] <k1l_> phiona: what is your real issue? do you want to upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04?
[09:32] <phiona> k1l_: yes. thats what i was going to do
[09:32] <k1l_> !ltsupgrade | phiona
[09:34] <sarthor> HI, I want to start dclock on remote server via ssh, but command says "Error: Can't open display:", how to run dclock on remote computer. ssh -X remote-server "command" shows the result on my local pc. but I want executions of command and result, both on remote computer.. HELP please.
[09:34] <phiona> k1l_: so? wait for at least one week more?
[09:34] <whizz> k1l_: does that mean it'll be available tomorrow?
[09:34] <k1l_> phiona: whizz i dont know when the release team is done with opening the LTS upgrade. but they said they need one more week.
[09:36] <phiona> k1l_: ok. what if we miss the prompt telling us to upgrade?
[09:36] <k1l_> phiona: then you run "update-manager" again and it will ask you
[09:37] <phiona> ok. thanks.
[09:40] <HoloIRCUser3> hi everyone
[09:41] <Matboe> Hey all. Looking for some tech help. Anyone able to assist me with a WiFi adapter?
[09:48] <HoloIRCUser3> http://askubuntu.com/questions/235279/my-wifi-adapter-is-not-working-at-all-how-to-troubleshoot
[09:52] <yourefired> how do i sudo
[09:52] <Ben64> "sudo"
[09:52] <yourefired> thanks
[09:52] <Ben64> interesting
[09:53] <ducasse> was that it? :)
[09:53] <Ben64> dude quit right after
[09:54] <cetabio> I got a gps that works with grps, but I dunno what kind of request it makes. I cant point it to my server (ubuntu 16 apache2.4) but how can i then catch the request in ubuntu
[09:55] <cetabio> to develop according to the device?
[09:56] <ikonia> "point it at your server" ?
[09:56] <ikonia> what exactly are you trying to do
[09:57] <cetabio> It a gps that send position to a server; I figured how to conect it with my server IP but the docs are very limited
[09:57] <cetabio> so wanna mak it run and the request to se its structure
[10:04] <fenix> quit
[10:12] <adroit_machine> when I do sudo apt-get -f install, I get this error:http://paste.ubuntu.com/21123348/
[10:12] <adroit_machine> need help please
[10:13] <cremo> Hi I am trying to install ubuntu canonical on hp proliant ml10 v2. I want to use hardware RAID , does any one knows how it can be achived ?
[10:14] <Triffid_Hunter> cremo: most hardware raid isn't usable by linux, and I hear that often linux software raid works better
[10:14] <Sayona> Hi, question: is fixed the problem with nvidia driver ?
[10:17] <squeakytoy2> Hey all. I am getting a bit frustrated. I have done an apt-get install <app>. One of the executables, become globally, since it was positioned in /usr/bin/ - but another executable, is not there. How in earth do I find that? (Its 'pub' in the dart sdk)
[10:17] <squeakytoy2> is there an easy way to locate where that binary got downloaded?
[10:18] <cremo> use locate command to find binary
[10:18] <MatrixAKeD> ?
[10:19] <MatrixAKeD> hello guys.
[10:19] <ElectroMotive> hi
[10:20] <zenius> hi
[10:21] <MatrixAKeD> have another chatroom?
[10:21] <cremo> any one worked on installing ubuntu on RAID configured server
[10:21] <ducasse> MatrixAKeD: #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:22] <ducasse> cremo: check with hp if your controller is supported by ubuntu
[10:23] <warbaque> I have played only with software raid
[10:23] <titan_> ?
[10:25] <nacc> squeakytoy2: dpkg -L to find what's in a package, or apt-file search/list
[10:26] <squeakytoy2> thanks will try all, thanks
[10:28] <ElectroMotive> cremo, does the server have an internal RAID controller?
[10:32] <easy> hi all, i am trying to connect to the printer , shared from windows machine, i am using ubuntu 16.04, when i add printer using windows printer via samba, and click browse button, window stop responding
[10:32] <easy> nothing happens, except busy cursor
[10:33] <Haris> hello all
[10:33] <easy> i also updated the whole system, it newer worked though
[10:33] <easy> how to add it manually or easy command line
[10:33] <Haris> I have apparmor installed on ubuntu 14.4 LTS. How do I enable (or disable) dovecot through it ? I'v configured dovecot to generate two sockets for auth and lmtp. its not generating those sockets
[10:34] <liava> Launch the printer configuration tool on your Linux desktop and start adding a printer. (On Ubuntu, open the System Settings window and click Printers, or launch the Printers application from the Dash.) Depending on the type of printer protocol you've selected, you may need to provide printer drivers.Apr 27, 2015
[10:34] <easy> i need to connect to the shared printers
[10:34] <Haris> is there a way to diable apparmor ?
[10:34] <liava> Eh idk
[10:34] <easy> liava, i have already done that, but window stopped responding
[10:34] <easy> when i click my workgroup name
[10:36] <liava> Maybe just reboot it's worth a shot
[10:37] <Haris> guys ?
[10:45] <sarthor> is there any Free clock that have alarm / calendar / weather / and full screen for linux, please share if some one know, thanks in advance.
[10:51] <Haris> thank you all
[11:14] <R13ose> I am using KDE in Ubuntu and the browser freeze on and off.  Meaning I can still move around but I need to scroll or click link or switch tabs then move off of window and come back to see results.  How do I fix this?
[11:17] <AciD`> R13ose > update your graphic driver?
[11:17] <R13ose> AciD`: how?
[11:19] <AciD`> is it possible in ubuntu 14.04 to install multiple version of ruby (via rvm) in place of the default ruby package (on which many application depends). I ask since I cannot find a way to install scss now..
[11:20] <adroit_machine_> Need help please! when I do sudo apt-get -f install, I get this error:http://paste.ubuntu.com/21123348/
[11:22] <AciD`> adroit_machine_ > use --force-all
[11:24] <adroit_machine_> AciD`: can you tell the full command please?
[11:24] <AciD`> apt-get -f install  --force-all
[11:24] <adroit_machine_> ok, thanks AciD`
[11:24] <AciD`> this will just force that libsqlite3-0_3.8.2-1ubuntu2.1_i386.deb package to overwrite the duplicated file
[11:25] <adroit_machine_> it doesn't work, AciD`. I get this  error message: E: Command line option --force-all is not understood
[11:26] <AciD`> and `apt-get --force-all -f install` ?
[11:26] <AciD`> (in that order)
[11:27] <AciD`> otherwise, just dpkg -i --force-all /var/cache/apt/archives/libsqlite3-0_3.8.2-1ubuntu2.1_i386.deb && apt-get -f install
[11:27] <adroit_machine_> AciD`: Let me try that
[11:30] <R13ose> I don't see any updates for my graphic driver
[11:31] <R13ose> AciD`: ^
[11:43] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[11:45] <ina_> hi, i've a problem with a brother dcp-8020: printing does, scanning not. brscan is installed. simple-scan -d gives me (after succesfully reading modes and setting them) "DEBUG: scanner.vala:1213: sane_start (page=0, pass=0) -> SANE_STATUS_INVAL"
[11:49] <adroit_machine_> good morning, BluesKaj
[11:50] <BluesKaj> Hi adroit_machine_
[11:51] <Blakes5> Would anyone have an idea why when I run gnome ubuntu my system would randomly crash whenever playing video games or watching videos but is rock solid if I use any other window's manager?
[11:51] <ikonia> could you define "crash"
[11:51] <Blakes5> Freeze...lock up...require a reboot
[11:51] <ikonia> as in the whole machine physically locks
[11:52] <Blakes5> Yes as in even the keyboard pressing caps lock will not light caps lock indicator....hard lock
[11:52] <ikonia> so that suggests a panic of some sort
[11:52] <YankDownUnder> "any other window manager" - ?
[11:52] <ikonia> what app are you using to watch the videos
[11:52] <Blakes5> Yes
[11:52] <tigefa> mpv
[11:53] <Blakes5> Right now I'm running xfce4
[11:53] <Blakes5> I can also run fluxbox.....
[11:53] <ikonia> thats the desktop
[11:53] <ikonia> not the window manager
[11:53] <Blakes5> no crashes
[11:53] <YankDownUnder> Ah...right...so Unity "crashes", but the others don't...?
[11:53] <Blakes5> I suppose
[11:53] <ikonia> need to clarify
[11:53] <ikonia> gnome or unity
[11:53] <ikonia> and what video app
[11:54] <streulma> Hello, if I run the bash scripts from the terminal it works, if I run outside the sh and choose Run in terminal (with ask setting in nautilus) then it won't work
[11:54] <Blakes5> Initially when the system was installed it would randomly freeze within 10 minutes. I attributed that to nourveau (sp), removed it installed nvidia drivers.
[11:54] <ikonia> streulma: depends what the script does
[11:54] <ikonia> and you need to define "won't work"
[11:54] <ikonia> as thats like me saying "fix it"
[11:54] <streulma> sh script.sh start ikonia
[11:55] <ikonia> streulma: thats not really info
[11:55] <Blakes5> ikonia, anything.....youtube, vlc
[11:55] <ikonia> Blakes5: ok - so those are two very different things
[11:55] <Blakes5> right
[11:55] <ikonia> and they work in very different ways
[11:55] <Blakes5> and playing a video game will also elicit a lock unless it's a fresh reboot.
[11:55] <streulma> ikonia it's a shell script with start stop
[11:56] <ikonia> streulma: yes, but you're not really saying what it does
[11:56] <ikonia> streulma: why don't you paste the shell script,
[11:56] <Blakes5> It seems like I can play video or games between reboots but not both,
[11:56] <ikonia> (pastebin)
[11:56] <ikonia> Blakes5: but this doesn't happen when you are running other desktops
[11:56] <Blakes5> But now that I'm not running gnome.....it's rock solid
[11:57] <ikonia> Blakes5: you said when using gnome it crashes at the start
[11:57] <ikonia> Blakes5: could you take a moment, gather up the info - double check it then paste a summary
[11:57] <Blakes5> before I removed nourveau
[11:57] <ikonia> as you've given quite conflicting info
[11:57] <streulma> ikonia http://pastebin.com/vyESWZhT
[11:58] <ikonia> streulma: this is a script that calls another script
[11:59] <streulma> oh, ikonia yes :-)
[12:00] <codfection> whats the best ide for c
[12:01] <snk_> ??
[12:01] <snk_> anyone?
[12:01] <tigefa> atom.io
[12:01] <snk_> what's this?
[12:02] <nacc> !ot | codfection
[12:02] <kucing> a channel
[12:02] <snk_> soga
[12:02] <kucing> nope, i just checking
[12:03] <kucing> ...
[12:03] <ikonia> streulma: so this seems pretty pointless
[12:03] <ikonia> just call the real script
[12:03] <ikonia> what is the value in having a script that calls a script
[12:04] <maysara> It ok to use ppa that has packages for older version? i.e trusty packages not xenial
[12:04] <ina_> I've a problem with a brother dcp-8020: printing does, scanning not. brscan is installed. simple-scan -d gives me (after succesfully reading modes and setting them) "DEBUG: scanner.vala:1213: sane_start (page=0, pass=0) -> SANE_STATUS_INVAL"
[12:04] <ikonia> maysara: no
[12:05] <nacc> maysara: i mean, using a ppa with no packages for your release will not really do anything. Forcibly installing those .debs would be wrong.
[12:05] <ina_> btw: the scanner is connected to a usb2-port, ubuntuusers reports problems with usb3...
[12:05] <streulma> how can I run screen sh command in daemonize mode ?
[12:05] <ikonia> damonize mode ??
[12:05] <ikonia> it's not a daemon
[12:06] <YankDownUnder> ina_: Have you read through all the information on the Brother website concerning this particular printer?
[12:06] <maysara> nacc, ikonia: thx
[12:06] <YankDownUnder> ina_: http://support.brother.com/g/s/id/linux/en/download_scn.html
[12:07] <benllben> Ubuntu live disk runs flawlessly, when i install it then load it the graphics takes a few seconds to respond and open up a screen. Anyone know whats happening?
[12:07] <benllben> Also the home screen when logging in loads in layers, and loads in slowly from top to bottom, like old internet days
[12:08] <R13ose> I am using KDE in Ubuntu and the browsers freeze on and off.  Meaning I can still move around but I need to scroll or click link or switch tabs then move off of window and come back to see results.  How do I fix this?
[12:09] <antonys> alas buenas
[12:12] <ina_> YankDownUnder: i did everything, https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Scanner/Brother/ says. It worked this way with 14.04 lts. it seems something changed in 16.04
[12:17] <liava> Google
[12:20] <benllben> Any  reason why ubuntu display would be really slow and typing takes awhile to appear? cursor moves fluid but clicking or doing anything is slow. on an i7 system
[12:20] <benllben> Live disk works fine, just not the installed version
[12:26] <gtl> anyone used gitlab in ubuntu? I have problem that it interferes with other vhost
[12:27] <gtl> when I stop, other vhost works perfect again
[12:28] <ModFather> gtl maybe its better to ask on #gitlab channel
[12:29] <tigefa> RAM less i think.
[12:29] <gtl> thanks ModFather :)
[12:35] <Zteam> Hi all!
[12:38] <Zteam> I must say I'm quite dissapoined by the Ubuntu 16.04 installer, no matter how I try it won't finish loading Unity, som I'm stuck with a blank desktop, and I can't bring it into a TTY either.... :-/
[12:38] <Zteam> This never happened with any previous Ubuntu image I used....
[12:39] <justxux> Maybe you can find some info about this in release announcement,or try download another image,this one can be corrupt
[12:41] <Zteam> justxux, I did read release announcement and the installer works perfectly on another computer (and earlier verions of the Ubuntu live ISO works on both computers without any issues :-/
[12:43] <justxux> Zteam, maybe try other boot options
[12:43] <Zteam> the only two workarounds I can figure it out would be: 1 install a previous version of Ubuntu and then upgrade it once system is installed or 2, download the server edition and install from that one
[12:44] <Zteam> justxux, yup, I tried changed them as well :P
[12:44] <guineess-book> hi i have question
[12:44] <guineess-book> where to boot ubuntu
[12:44] <guineess-book> to command prompt
[12:44] <guineess-book> instead of graphic
[12:45] <justxux> Zteam, Why server edition? Try minimal ISO image
[12:46] <justxux> Zteam, Do you have a skylake processor on that computer?
[12:46] <Zteam> guineess-book, there is no real way of doing that... but then you are in desktop mode just bring up a command line by pressing CTRL+ALT+F1
[12:47] <akik> guineess-book: this worked on debian. i guess it should work on ubuntu too "systemctl set-default multi-user.target"
[12:47] <Zteam> justxux, Ahh, neat idea, I didn't know about the minimal iso. but of course that would be the ideal choice :-)
[12:48] <Zteam> justxux, no it's a quite old machine an old AMD athlon X2 4800+
[12:49] <justxux> Zteam, You tried boot option like "vga=795"?
[12:50] <Zteam> justxux, do you know if the minimal iso offers a guided way to set up full disc encryption?
[12:50] <Zteam> justxux, I'm not sure will doublecheck that :-)
[12:50] <justxux> Zteam, There should be (never done this,but heard smth about this),let me look this up
[12:52] <Tin_man> Zteam, is that a HP slimline computer?
[12:53] <Zteam> Tin_man, nope, it's a machine I built myself :-)
[12:53] <justxux> Zteam, I found this : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[12:53] <Tin_man> ok..
[12:55] <Zteam> justxux, okey, thanks :-)
[12:56] <AciD`> adroit_machine_ > did it work?
[12:57] <StatelessCat> hey, what is the meaning of versions «8u91-b14-0ubuntu4~16.04.1, 8u91-b14-3ubuntu1~16.04.1» ? (x)ubuntu(y)~ version means ?
[12:59] <Zteam> justxux, thanks for your help man :-)
[12:59] <StatelessCat> is this is a patch versionning numeroting ?
[12:59] <nacc> the (x) is the base debian version, the (y) is the number of ubuntu updates
[12:59] <nacc> the ~ makes the string sort less than any other version with the same prefix
[12:59] <justxux> Zteam, No problem, I just was around at the right time
[12:59] <nacc> StatelessCat: --^
[13:00] <nacc> StatelessCat: that way, if you were to upgrade to 16.10 and it had a 8u91-b14-0ubuntu4, that will get upgraded to
[13:02] <dmitry> hey hey hey
[13:02] <d3adbra1n> Hey
[13:07] <StatelessCat> nacc: where is the documentation about how packages on ubuntu are build and made available on official repos ? I suppose that every/some packages seems to be a debian testing one and got some patchs for ubuntu, if I understand well.
[13:08] <nacc> StatelessCat: http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/
[13:09] <nacc> StatelessCat: although note that UDD doesn't exist anymore :)
[13:09] <nacc> but probably the broad strokes are still valid
[13:09] <StatelessCat> udd?
[13:09] <nacc> StatelessCat: ubuntu packages are built basically like debian packages
[13:09] <StatelessCat> dédé ?
[13:10] <nacc> udd = ubuntu distributed development, now defunct aiui
[13:11] <StatelessCat> Now this is not UDD it is ?
[13:11] <nacc> StatelessCat: don't understand your question
[13:12] <StatelessCat> nacc: «UDD doesn't exist anymore», now what is the type of developement choosen ?
[13:13] <nacc> StatelessCat: it depends on the project, but generally speaking, ubuntu packages are not guaranteed to be in any SCM; some are in bzr
[13:13] <sdexter> I am installing Ubuntu 14.04 LTS Server onto a RAID1 software raid (not fake). When I get to the step where it does grub-install /dev/sdj it fails. I have tried setting this up a number of ways and it fails this same way every time.
[13:14] <YankDownUnder> sdexter: Have you asked in the #ubuntu-server channel?
[13:14] <StatelessCat> nacc: this sound bad :/
[13:14] <sdexter> I have not, but then I didn't know that channel existed till just now. :)
[13:14] <nacc> StatelessCat: what does?
[13:15] <YankDownUnder> sdexter: Coolbeans - best to ask there, mate.
[13:15] <nacc> StatelessCat: to contribute a fix to an ubuntu package, I doubt you need the whole history for that package
[13:15] <sdexter> YankDownUnder: Thanks
[13:16] <cfhowlett> !server | sdexter might ask the server channel
[13:20] <sudishth> i have lenovo g 50 80 laptop and my tachpad tep to click not working also not sow techpad setting in mouse and tuchpad setting
[13:21] <dionysus69> where should I put firefox developer version in /opt or /home/user/bin?
[13:33] <StatelessCat> nacc: ok I misunderstood. I was thinking you said that not every packages presents in ubuntu must be versionned ^^
[13:34] <StatelessCat> nacc: like when some guys put nasty proprietary binaries into .deb
[13:36] <Paul__98> hello 593
[13:37] <nacc> StatelessCat: no, I didn't say that
[13:37] <Paul__98> Who use Openbox?
[13:40] <dalto> anyone up for a grub rescue> problem after macrium reflect reinstall on multiboot Win 7, Ubuntu, Linux Mint?
[13:41] <timini> Hey does anyone know how I can spoof my keyboard input?
[13:41] <timini> Is there a program that will spoof me typing a file
[13:42] <timini> I have some program where copy paste is disabled
[13:42] <timini> its a pita
[13:42] <timini> need to type everything
[13:42] <guineess-book> :)
[13:42] <dalto> :)
[13:42] <guineess-book> guiness book world record gamer edition
[13:42] <guineess-book> :)
[13:43] <timini> but would be great if there was a program that would type it for me if i give it a text file
[13:43] <transhuman> Hi! Not sure if I should go to the ubuntu people or here but I am getting the following error trying to upgrade mysql server as part of a ubuntu upgrade to latest ... http://paste.debian.net/785588
[13:43] <dalto> can anyone help?
[13:43] <dalto> please?
[13:43] <akik> timini: xdotool might be able to do it
[13:46] <dalto> I can get back in using set boot=(hd0,msdos7) etc etc but cant make the change permanent - can boot to Win 7 no problem but the Grub bootloader won't give me Linux Mint or Ubuntu option - instead get grub rescue
[13:47] <dalto> anyone?
[13:47] <transhuman> I am also getting this error in the logs paste.debian.net/785590
[13:49] <ina_> did anyone got a scanner with brscan(1) working on 16.04?
[13:53] <nacc> transhuman: you were already on 16.04? or was this 14.04 -> 16.04?
[13:54] <dalto> Further info.... Win 7 installed ... then installed Ubuntu /root, swap, /home and /boot on seperate partitions on single drive without overwriting Win bootloader (using as default)....then installed Mint using on own /root but same /home and swap as Ubuntu and overwrote Ubuntu Grub with Mint Grub
[13:54] <transhuman> nacc it was an upgrade
[13:54] <transhuman> everything upgraded ok except mysql
[13:55] <mchasard> hi
[13:55] <transhuman> original problem is root referenced lower and upper case host names
[13:55] <mchasard> midori or epiphany how to play youtube video please ? firefox is ok but too much ressources
[13:56] <nacc> transhuman: upgrade of ubuntu or just mysql?
[13:56] <dalto> set boot entry in MBR using EasyBCD all worked fine... then did Macrium Reflect backup (all partitions) and reinstalled as test and now getting grub rescue>
[13:57] <transhuman> of Ubunut
[13:57] <transhuman> Ubuntu
[13:57] <nacc> transhuman: from 14.04?
[13:57] <transhuman> no i think it was 15.04
[13:58] <transhuman> it says mysql has alredy been upgraed after moving the log files
[13:58] <theTroy> Hi! I have given Deja-Dup 1TB drive to back up to. Been running the OS for nearly a year but it never uses more than ~300GB of space. I also told it to keep backups forever, but it only keeps ~1.5 months of daily backups
[13:58] <transhuman> it says its on 5.7.13
[13:58] <nacc> transhuman: well if it was 15.04, you can't upgrde to 16.04 directly, you have to go through 15.10
[13:59] <transhuman> I did the normal realease upgrade
[13:59] <adroit_machine_>  Need help please! when I do sudo apt-get -f install, I get this error:http://paste.ubuntu.com/21123348/
[13:59] <nacc> transhuman: sorry, gtg, hopefully somoene can help
[13:59] <transhuman> do-release-upgrade when it said another was available
[13:59] <transhuman> ok no problem thanks
[13:59] <dalto> set boot-(hd0,msdos7) ........ set profile=(hd0,msdos7)/boot/grub ...... insmod normal ..... normal and I get GRUB but how can I get this to be permanent again if I select the Linux entry in MBR which I created using EasyBCD?
[13:59] <transhuman> I think I am going to have to drop back to my san snapshot and try again
[14:00] <transhuman> have a great day nacc
[14:01] <dalto> erm ... should I be reading IRC rules somewhere to ask the "right" question?
[14:02] <dalto> is this the Ubuntu help channel?
[14:04] <Fuchs> dalto: hi, yes :)
[14:04] <akik> dalto: yes, just ask your question and if somebody knows the answer they'll reply
[14:04] <Fuchs> dalto: you just have to be patient :)
[14:04] <Fuchs> he did
[14:04] <rattking> dalto: in most cases 'update-grub' configures grub2 correctly. I dont know anything about EasyBCD
[14:05] <dalto> I tried update-grub at grub rescue> but no go - should I be running that from terminal in Mint? Sorry for my noobness - trying to learn :)
[14:06] <akik> dalto: did you tell mint to install grub to the mbr?
[14:08] <rattking> dalto: that command would be run from the booted OS
[14:08] <dalto> no - I installed GRUB to its own 350mb partition (on Ubuntu install) then overwrote it on the same partition with Mint GRUB - then I used EasyBCD in Windows to create the Linux entry as I would like to continue using the Windows bootloader
[14:08]  * rattking backs away slowly
[14:09] <dalto> :)
[14:09] <silli> guys i'm not able to set sublimetext3 as default editor, i've changed gedit to sublime_text in default.list, but nothing changed, any tips?
[14:09] <ConsoleFx> I installed the nvidia driver for my GFx card model and it got installed too but while I restarted I am not getting the option to scale it to 1920x1080 :( but in the nvidia-settings window, I could see the primary display resolution set to 1920x1080... Can anyone please help me how I can resolve this thus I can go to "Display" windows from the control panel and change the resolution accordingly?
[14:09] <akik> dalto: ok there's another method for using windows boot loader to boot ubuntu https://www.iceflatline.com/2009/09/how-to-dual-boot-windows-7-and-linux-using-bcdedit/ i don't think many people here know about easybcd
[14:10] <dalto> ratking: will running update-grub from Terminal in Mint fix this or the backing away is 'cause I am not using GRUB as default on sda0 (MBR)? :)
[14:12] <rattking> I backed away because of how much is in play here, 2 grub installations and EasyBCD, I dont know anything about that last one
[14:12] <BluesKaj> !mint | dalto
[14:13] <adroit_machine_>  Need help please! when I do sudo apt-get -f install, I get this error:http://paste.ubuntu.com/21123348/
[14:13] <dalto> EasyBCD allowed me to create an entry for Linux (through Windows) to point to /dev/sda4 which is the 350mb partition I installed GRUB to
[14:14] <BluesKaj> adroit_machine_, run sudo dpkg --configure -a first, then -f install, that might help
[14:14] <dalto> therefore by overwriting the Ubuntu GRUB with Mint GRUB in the same location I used the Windows bootloader with default time of 10 seconds to boot to Win 7 or else select the Linux entry where GRUB appeared and I could choose either Mint or Ubuntu
[14:15] <dalto> .....chainloading?
[14:15] <dalto> I guess
[14:15] <adroit_machine_> ok, BluesKaj
[14:16] <akik> dalto: what you have accomplished is something you need to figure out yourself
[14:16] <BluesKaj> dalto, uefi ?
[14:17] <dalto> nope not UEFI ....IV'e seen many threads at the forums bout this problem but can't comprehend what's going on unfortunately
[14:17] <dalto> or how to apply a permanent fix
[14:17] <dalto> more to the point
[14:17] <rattking> dalto: that you are getting to grub-rescue indicates that grub was started by the other boot loader, but grub is unable to find its config on disk
[14:18] <dalto> is grub-rescue and grub rescue the same horse?
[14:18] <rattking> err yeah the grub rescue prompt
[14:19] <dalto> I get grub rescue> when I select the Linux entry in the Windows bootloader
[14:19] <dalto> then no GRUB
[14:20] <alkisg> dalto, why don't you install grub normally and avoid easybcd completely?
[14:20] <adroit_machine_> BluesKaj: udo dpkg --configure -a, doesn't work. I'm getting the same error
[14:20] <dalto> I have not tried grub-rescue via the Terminal in Mint after running set boot=(sda0,msdosX) eNTER ETC ETC
[14:20] <rattking> thats usually solved by running grub-install /dev/whereever and update-grub to update grubs config from the booted system.. pick 1 ubuntu or grub and let os-prober (called by update-grub) find the other install
[14:21] <dalto> In which case I can bring up the GRUB bootloader and boot Ubuntu or Mint as I please
[14:21] <rattking> sorry I am still sleeping * Pick 1 ubuntu or mint and work with grub there
[14:22] <alkisg> dalto, the problem you're mentioning is related to easybcd, you need to remove and reinstall the grub entry there, it's not related to linux or ubuntu
[14:22] <dalto> ok - so you are saying that if I run update-grub (with sudo?) from Terminal in either Mint or Ubuntu it should fix the issue? WIll the Windows bootloader remain default?
[14:23] <virtuosoj> Is Unity/Compiz more taxing on gfx hardware or less than Gnome/Mutter?
[14:23] <alkisg> You can tell grub to boot windows as the first choice, but you should really let grub manage your mbr, not windows/easybcd
[14:23] <YankDownUnder> virtuosoj: Yes.
[14:23] <alkisg> That's dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc from the booted ubuntu
[14:24] <virtuosoj> YankDownUnder, more or less? XD
[14:24] <BluesKaj> adroit_machine_, sudo apt purge sqlite3 and mysql , tou may not need these files if you aren't running a server or database
[14:24] <BluesKaj> toou=you
[14:25] <adroit_machine_> BluesKaj: sqllite3 is needed for wine
[14:25] <YankDownUnder> virtuosoj: It's dependent on the graphics card, really - however, overall Gnome/Mutter is going to be less overhead/overall "hungry"...obviously, Unity/Compiz is going to require more GPU power to push effects...
[14:26] <dalto> I had a  feeling it would get to that ... use GRUB but.... I would still like boot....Win bootloader ....default Win 7 after x time or Enter OR select Linux -> loads GRUB -> select Mint or Ubuntu if possible
[14:26] <BluesKaj> adroit_machine_, purge it anyway reboot and reinstall it if you must
[14:26] <adroit_machine_> ok, BluesKaj
[14:26] <dalto> possible?
[14:26] <akik> dalto: you can do it. read the link i pasted
[14:26] <alkisg> dalto: for that  scenario, you should ask in the easybcd irc or forums or whatever support they have, it's not related to linux or ubuntu
[14:26] <BluesKaj> adr but update and upgrade first after rebooting
[14:26] <BluesKaj> adroit_machine_,^
[14:27] <dalto> alkisg: yeh I sorta get that but I figured someone here would more than likely have faced the issue at some point
[14:27] <alkisg> adroit_machine_, BluesKaj, if you do purge it, note the packages that will be automatically removed; you may need to reinstall them
[14:28] <BluesKaj> al the packages will install if he reinstalls the purged packages
[14:28] <adroit_machine_> will do, alkisg
[14:29] <alkisg> dalto, you haven't explained the reasons why you prefer windows to manage the mbr though, while it definately doesn't know anything about linux, so you need a second proprietary software and *then* grub to be able to load linux... that's a whole lot more mess than just using grub in the first place
[14:29] <BluesKaj> alkisg,^
[14:29] <alkisg> BluesKaj: no, that's not true
[14:30] <BluesKaj> then why didn't you halp him instead of correcting me, alkisg?
[14:30] <akik> alkisg: ntldr can boot the mbr boot sector which is in a file
[14:30] <alkisg> BluesKaj: suppose you remove lightdm, which in turn removes ubuntu-desktop, as that depends on lightdm. If you later on reinstall lightdm, you won't get ubuntu-desktop
[14:30] <ronin> Hello! I have trouble with Ubuntu 16.04 Lockscreen. I use Caps Lock to change keyboard layout. Steps: 1) I lock my computer. 2) I press Caps Lock to change keyboard layout. But lockscreen disappears, I see all my windows (without password) for a few seconds. If I press buttons they take affect on active window... So anybody can do things on my computer without password.. Can anybody help me?
[14:30] <dalto> alkisg: understood ... I guess in a sense it was more of an experimentation than anything else - I have in the past dual booted Win7 and Ubuntu using GRUB ....
[14:30] <virtuosoj> YankDownUnder, thank you :)
[14:30] <BluesKaj> it won/'t remove ubuntu-desktop
[14:30] <alkisg> BluesKaj: yes, because I didn't have a nice command to help him with, but I did happen to know the issue with the command you gave. That was the correct thing to do with my knowledge. Do you disagree?
[14:30] <YankDownUnder> virtuosoj: All good.
[14:31] <alkisg> BluesKaj: do you know which packages that adroit_machine_ has, depend on sqlite3? I don't. I'm just telling him to make a list.
[14:32] <rattking> I handle all that by using 'dpkg -r --force-all' to remove the specific package causing trouble then 'apt-get -f install' to put it all back together.. But I am al little skiddish recommending that to others
[14:32] <alkisg> rattking: that's what I had in mind too, but I thought it was a bit harsh, but definately better than apt purge.
[14:32] <BluesKaj> alkisg, you tell him if you're so insistent , I know that this method has worked for mr in the past ...now if you want to help him , tell him not me
[14:33] <adroit_machine_> BluesKaj: , alkisg, let's not  fight guys
[14:34] <dalto> let me rephrase then .... if I were to fresh install 7 and then Ubuntu and then Mint (overwriting Ubuntu GRUB with Mint GRUB) using GRUB as the default bootloader then could I feasibly do a backup of ALL partitions on a single drive using Macrium Reflect free and not face the same issue I am now?
[14:34] <dalto> thoughts?
[14:35] <BluesKaj> adroit_machine_, we have to put up with so called experts in here ...I'm used to it , just make sure you update and upgrade after you reboot
[14:35] <alkisg> adroit_machine_, BluesKaj, if I run: sudo apt purge libsqlite3-0 in my system, it uninstalls more than 500 packages
[14:35] <alkisg> adroit_machine_, BluesKaj, if you run it, but press cancel, how much does it uninstall for you?
[14:35] <alkisg> BluesKaj: you give bad advice, and you don't want people to correct you
[14:35] <alkisg> Bye from me.
[14:35] <dalto> I'm willing to go there but I want a way of backing up a triple boot (clean installs of each) without reinstallation hassles
[14:37] <BluesKaj> adroit_machine_, if as he says it's goiunf remove a lot of depenedent packages then don't purge it,  purging  can be dangerous
[14:37] <adroit_machine_> ok, BluesKaj
[14:38] <BluesKaj> notice he didn't offer any advice on how to fix it tho
[14:38] <dalto> what would be any of you kind peoples thoughts on how YOU would achieve this (without the I would never EVER Windows 7 ....) please?
[14:41] <BluesKaj> dalto, I asked you earlier, is this pc a UEFI or BIOS type?
[14:42] <dalto> BIOS mate
[14:42] <zerowaitstate> I think I may have found a bug in SSH server logging related to PID reuse
[14:42] <ronin312123> Hello! I have trouble with Ubuntu 16.04 Lockscreen. I use Caps Lock to change keyboard layout. Steps: 1) I lock my computer. 2) I press Caps Lock to change keyboard layout. But lockscreen disappears, I see all my windows (without password) for a few seconds. If I press buttons they take affect on active window... So anybody can do things on my computer without password.. Can anybody help me?
[14:42] <dalto> *BluesKaj
[14:43] <BluesKaj> dalto, run sudo fdisk -l  to find what your partitons are names /dev/sdX ..usually /dev/sda
[14:43] <dalto> akik: have bookmarked the link you posted for a read later to by the way - cheers
[14:44] <test> hello
[14:45] <Guest782> so whats up guys?
[14:45] <spjules> whats up
[14:45] <dalto> BluesKaj: alrighty ... will do .... gotta run set boot etc etc to get back in first - will be but a minute :)
[14:48] <Guest782> so this is the linux community?
[14:48] <skinux> Anyone happen to have a bash script for installing all the needed components for using React, Redux, JSX, Babel, etc?
[14:49] <genii> Guest782: This is the support channel for the Ubuntu distribution of linux. if you want a broader linux community, the ##linux channel is more appropriate
[14:49] <Guest782> ohh
[14:49] <Guest782> well got any advice for a new user then?
[14:54] <adal> hello there
[14:54] <Guest782> hi
[14:54] <adal> hi
[14:54] <Guest782> sup?
[14:55] <adal> anyone know of better more populated channels to join?
[14:56] <dalto> BluesKaj: pastebin.com/fS0jGyhm
[14:56] <Guest782> yeah this chatroom seems to be quite emty...
[14:56] <akik> only 1901 clients
[14:57] <Guest782> client as in users?
[14:57] <akik> adal: do you need help with ubuntu?
[14:58] <adal> um yes
[14:58] <Guest782> adal are you also a new user?
[14:58] <adal> yes
[14:58] <adal> my question is
[14:58] <adal> how do you make window borders disapear is it even possible
[14:58] <Guest782> i am testing it out on a virtual machine
[14:59] <adal> i have ubuntu as my main os to force me to learn this
[14:59] <Guest782> you mean how to close programs?
[14:59] <adal> no
[14:59] <davido_> which borders, the 1px thin line around windows?
[14:59] <adal> yes
[15:00] <adal> like the title borders
[15:00] <daku_> Could probably find a theme that can do it. If you're trying to do what I think you are.
[15:01] <adal> i havent found any themes like that i srsly have looked everywhere
[15:01] <Guest782> i got a question
[15:01] <adal> whats ur question
[15:01] <Guest782> what programing software should i get for ubuntu?
[15:02] <adal> what language do you want to use
[15:02] <daku_> ^
[15:02] <Guest782> well... i am swedish....
[15:02] <adal> no like programing language
[15:02] <Guest782> but english works just as well
[15:02] <Guest782> oohhh
[15:02] <davido_> adal : The settings that themes configure are in /usr/share/themes  ...might need to copy one of the themes over to a new name (so you don't mess up the original) and have a go at making sense of the configuration.
[15:02] <daku_> @adal http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/01/how-to-make-your-favourite-gtk-theme-borderless
[15:02] <adal> thanks davido
[15:03] <akik> Guest782: what language do you know/want to learn?
[15:03] <adal> and thanks daku
[15:03] <daku_> Not sure if that will work
[15:03] <adal> ik java ir atleast i was able to pass the ap computer science exam which uses java
[15:04] <BluesKaj> dalto, to include the windows or linux OS partitions in grub, run,  sudo os-prober, then run, sudo update-grub
[15:04] <davido_> Guest782 : The choice of what to install for a programmer is based on the tool chain that works well with his organization and with the languages he intends to work with (programming languages).
[15:04] <Guest782> actually i don't know.... the point of getting linux is because I am going to college to be a computer engineer. And i was told Linux would be better for me to use than windows
[15:04] <davido_> Guest782 This isn't really an Ubuntu question though.  The answers are going to be opinion based, and will not be unique to Ubuntu -- will apply to all linux environments.
[15:05] <k1l> Guest782: install ubuntu and start using it. so you get familiar with it.
[15:05] <rattking> ronin312123 thats definitely worth a bug report
[15:05] <adal> im using linux because when u use tor with windows it leaves leaks
[15:05] <davido_> Guest782: Again this will depend on your college's CS program. What if they teach C++ using MSVC++?  Anyway, not Ubuntu specific.  I'm a developer, and my IDE is linux's tools, and vim.
[15:05] <Guest782> i am using it one a virtual machine for now...
[15:06] <Guest782> oh well davido i havent been given that information yet
[15:06] <davido_> !ot Guest782
[15:06] <davido_> !ot
[15:06] <Guest782> ok ok then
[15:07] <Guest782> so why should i use ubuntu?
[15:07] <subsume> huh?
[15:07] <davido_> That's not a support question.
[15:07] <dalto> BluesKaj: pastebin.com/Cpb3jd7p for os-prober - safe to run the next command? What is this going to do BTW - set GRUB as default? I really don't mind ... just asking?
[15:07] <zykotick9> davido_: fyi, to highlight someone with a factoid use "!foo | nick"
[15:07] <subsume> i like it because its almost as stable as debian and has mostly current support for things i need but i don't use it as a desktop
[15:07] <k1l> its easy to use and got a lot of software in the repositories. so you can easily install them.
[15:07] <davido_> thanks zykotick9
[15:08] <subsume> EriC^^: hoping to get some help with a bootloader setup. :)
[15:08] <Guest782> well i mean there are many differet types of linux.... so i am asking why should i pick ubuntu?
[15:08] <subsume> Guest782: for what use case
[15:08] <Guest782> programming etc
[15:08] <k1l> Guest782: i just told you. its one of the most widespread distributions.
[15:08] <BluesKaj> davido_, updating grub will list all your OSs including windows , assuming that's whatn you need
[15:09] <BluesKaj> dalto,^
[15:09] <dalto> BluesKaj: thought that one might have been meant for me :)
[15:09] <BluesKaj> dalto, yes it was :-)
[15:09] <subsume> Guest782: go search for the libs you need in the pursuit of programming and you may find that ubuntu has those packages more up to date than some other ones
[15:10] <dalto> BluesKaj:so GRUB will take over then? Correct?
[15:10] <subsume> i'm sure there are other flavors of linux worth using i just don't really spend my time on that problem anymore, i have moved onto other ones in a ubuntu context
[15:10] <subsume> having a huge active channel on IRC is also great too
[15:10] <BluesKaj> dalto, I assumed that's what you wanted and needed
[15:10] <subsume> including countless stackoverflow and other forum questions that pursue problems i run into
[15:11] <RoninDev> Hello! I have trouble with Ubuntu 16.04 Lockscreen. I use Caps Lock to change keyboard layout. Steps: 1) I lock my computer. 2) I press Caps Lock to change keyboard layout. But lockscreen disappears, I see all my windows (without password) for a few seconds. If I press buttons they take affect on active window... So anybody can do things on my computer without password.. Can anybody help me?
[15:11] <dalto> as I said before I would have liked to figure out a way of sticking with the Win bootloader but hey ... I'll try anything once my friend! :)
[15:11] <dalto> *BluesKaj
[15:12] <Guest782> hmm well thank you subsume
[15:12] <subsume> dalto: heh i am looking for the same thing
[15:12] <subsume> here's one thing i don't get
[15:12] <BluesKaj> dalto, not possible , it's not going to affect your windows boot or login , why would you want that ..it will look exactly the same once you choose to boot windows anyway
[15:13] <subsume> because its not reversible, BluesKaj
[15:13] <subsume> or its not reliably reversible
[15:13] <dalto> BluesKaj: true dat ... running update-grub now - let's see what happens then
[15:13] <Crazymofo> hey by any chance do any of know why effi is so hard to get to boot a linux disto off usb
[15:13] <subsume> if you decide you don't want ubuntu on the box you are in some shit trying to get windows back to a normal state
[15:13] <subsume> I don't get why I can burn a USB and it doesn't need a bootloader but when I install ubuntu it does
[15:14] <subsume> maybe the install disk does have a bootloader and i just don't know it
[15:15] <BluesKaj> subsume, no kidding , but I don't understand his wanting the windows bootloader when the mbr is till there , it just has grub on it
[15:15] <subsume> oh
[15:15] <subsume> i was installing ubuntu next to windows but i don't want grub
[15:15] <dalto> BluesKaj: holy bat **** - what is /boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-21-generic?
[15:15] <subsume> does anyone know if the liveCD has a bootloader?
[15:16] <BluesKaj> dalto, that's your linux kernel
[15:16] <davido_> Grub is pretty simple. If you ever get to a state where you wish to revert to windows only (instead of dual boot) you can just set grub to not show a splash screen, and to auto-select Windows.  Then it becomes invisible.
[15:16] <rypervenche> subsume: It does. How else would it boot? :) Isolinux.
[15:17] <subsume> rypervenche: okay so can i just install the bootloader to the actual partition that i install ubuntu too
[15:17] <adal> subsume install grub
[15:17] <subsume> basically, could i just manually select the actual partition to boot from each time i want ubuntu and leave the rest the heck alone?
[15:17] <rypervenche> subsume: On Ubuntu, you would use syslinux instead. And yes, you could use it if you wanted.
[15:17] <subsume> eh its my friends windows machine
[15:18] <BluesKaj> subsume, yes if you want
[15:18] <Melioo> Hi
[15:18] <dalto> BluesKaj: phew! I saw vm and thought it found the Linux VM's I am running in Workstation 12 - one of which I am speaking with you whilst on right now - I am n00btastic - I know I know ... give it up :)
[15:18] <adal> ho
[15:18] <subsume> i just want to do some temporary machine learning stuff but i don't want to invade his system with any changes
[15:18] <davido_> well, there's always VirtualBox
[15:18] <subsume> BluesKaj: you think during install i can just select /dev/sda5 (my to be ubuntu partition) and the normal windows bootloader will be untouched? then i can F11 in and boot /dev/sda5 manually
[15:18] <Guest782> yeah virtualbox :)
[15:18] <subsume> nah can't use vbox
[15:19] <subsume> for some reason tensorflow libs won't have access to the GPU
[15:19] <subsume> there's a huge warning about it in the install docs
[15:19] <Guest782> well this has been an interesting first time experience with linux have a good day everyone
[15:19] <Melioo> Is it theoretically possible to create a functional persistent usb with a set size for the usb stick, then backup the drive and its file system to an iso, to burn it back to a simular sized thumb drive
[15:19] <dalto> BluesKaj: so I guess reboot and see if GRUB has taken the reigns then?
[15:19] <BluesKaj> subsume, yes , but you have to choose  manual partitioning , and make sure you know which partition is the target ahead of time
[15:20] <rypervenche> subsume: I think a persistent USB would be the best for you then.
[15:20] <subsume> rypervenche: i have only one usb on me, so i can't really figure out how to make it
[15:20] <subsume> i need some medium to create the install disk
[15:20] <subsume> could i just make that medium a local unused partition?
[15:20] <Melioo> Subsume, universal usb creator
[15:20] <BluesKaj> dalto, did you run sudo update-grub , if so then your good
[15:21] <BluesKaj> you're good
[15:21] <subsume> Melioo: what's that
[15:21] <Melioo> Makong it persistant depends on the machibe you boot in and the arch of the distro
[15:21] <subsume> BluesKaj: yeah i do manual partitioning anyway
[15:21] <BluesKaj> subsume, look into dd or disk-cretor
[15:21] <Melioo> Sorry on a mobile device so spelling sucks
[15:22] <subsume> i am on osx
[15:22] <subsume> or windows
[15:22] <Melioo> Subsume reseach persistant usb, there is some basic and complex understanding of it
[15:22] <Melioo> Subsume hence universal
[15:22] <subsume> gotcha
[15:22] <BluesKaj> subsume, think dd works on OSX
[15:23] <subsume> BluesKaj: but if i can just select the specific partition during installation to put the boot loader there too, and it won't invade the windows bootloader, that's a good enough solution for me. i just wasn't sure whether that would even work
[15:23] <Melioo> Subsume, specific releases and arch do persistant also
[15:24] <Melioo> Subsume, usb 3 should voot and run fast too
[15:24] <Melioo> Boot
[15:24] <subsume> if i make changes will they persist?
[15:24] <Melioo> Thats what persistant refers to
[15:24] <Apachez> anyone in here with ubuntu 16.04 who also runs steam and managed to get windowed mode borderless (it was borderless in 15.10 but not anylonger in 16.04)
[15:24] <Melioo> Its a live boot, that persists (writes changes)
[15:24] <subsume> cool
[15:25] <Melioo> So if you set up wifi, shut down, boot again, it has your pass
[15:26] <Melioo> So question is once made, can you spin an iso from it as a backup to make another
[15:26] <dalto> BluesKaj: yep ran update-grub and still get the Windows bootloader ... can boot Windows 7 no problem via the Windows entry but select Linux entry and no GRUB ... still at grub rescue> _
[15:26] <subsume> hmm
[15:26] <subsume> well i only have 8gb
[15:26] <subsume> i should probably hold off that's a bit tight
[15:27] <adal> Can i expand the partition in which i have ubuntu in, if so how?
[15:28] <dalto> doh
[15:28] <Melioo> Adal, you can make changes with sizes of the disk using partition editors .
[15:28] <adal> does ubuntu come with one?
[15:28] <Melioo> Yes
[15:29] <adal> melioo whats it called?
[15:29] <Melioo> Use search and type disk partition
[15:29] <adal> ok thaks
[15:29] <Melioo> See ahat comes up
[15:29] <dalto> GParted
[15:29] <Melioo> Who farted?
[15:29] <dalto> lol
[15:29] <Melioo> Lol gotcha
[15:30] <Melioo> Now you cant ever say that program name without laughing
[15:30] <dalto> funz at the Ubuntu IRC :)
[15:30] <Melioo> :)
[15:30] <Melioo> Proves im not a bot
[15:31] <Melioo> I lost my mind, but i used regex to find it
[15:31] <dagerik> journalctl only shows entries from a couple of hours ago. But uptime says 44 days. How can this be
[15:32] <Melioo> Dagerik its rotating logs
[15:32] <Melioo> That's my theroy
[15:34] <akik> dagerik: journalctl --list-boots
[15:35] <dalto> I think Blue has given up on me :(
[15:35] <akik> dagerik: then you can use journalctl -b to select the boot you want
[15:36] <BluesKaj> dalto, you need boot repair , not grub repair
[15:36] <ducasse> subsume: the system you want to install to, is it uefi or legacy?
[15:36] <Melioo> Ugg
[15:37] <dalto> bootrec.exe?
[15:37] <subsume> ducasse: UEFI but i did get a warning during install about something in the system being BIOS
[15:37] <Melioo> Lost a chance to make money cause wifes at a eye doc and ahe cant drive so i gotta skip easy jobs
[15:37] <BluesKaj> !boot-repair | dalto
[15:38] <Melioo> Replace a meraki mx 80
[15:38] <ducasse> subsume: you don't remember what it said?
[15:38] <BluesKaj> !bootrepair | dalto
[15:38] <dagerik> apache2 suddenly shows php code instead of invoking modphp
[15:38] <Melioo> Do the boot repair, next stepnos to find out whats doing it
[15:38] <Melioo> I never had to do it
[15:39] <BluesKaj> ok , time to run some rrands...BBL
[15:39] <ducasse> subsume: still, if uefi, you _need_ a uefi bootloader to load linux and a firmware entry pointing to it.
[15:39] <subsume> ducasse: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1418706
[15:39] <dalto> BluesKaj: OK OK ... I will politely leave out ! ... | dalto when I run that one :)
[15:39] <Melioo> Uefi is the devil
[15:39] <subsume> ducasse: so yeah maybe there's no issue, its just that bug
[15:39] <dalto> Bobby Boucher?
[15:39] <Melioo> Am i alone in hating uefi
[15:40] <dalto> nope - the Debil!!!!
[15:40] <ducasse> subsume: ah, i see.
[15:40] <subsume> looks problematic, grub then doesn't install correctly... wtf
[15:40] <subsume> system is unbootable after the install completes
[15:40] <subsume> wow
[15:40] <adal> how do i use dual monitors, when ever i plug in the other monitor so i can detect it with ubuntu both my screens go black?
[15:40] <subsume> glad i read this, heh
[15:40] <Melioo> Adal, do you have two video cards
[15:40] <silli> Guys i'm using ubuntu16, do you know how to set sublimetext3 as default editor? i've changed gedit to sublime_text in default.list, but nothing changes, anyone know ?
[15:41] <adal> no only 1 videocard
[15:41] <Melioo> Adal, you sure
[15:41] <Melioo> Adal, which motherboard or laptop model
[15:41] <adal> 100% sure could it be because i havent installed the drivers?
[15:42] <adal> ummy mother board is a z97-ar
[15:43] <Melioo> Z97 has integrated video intel hd
[15:43] <Melioo> Do you have a second video card installed
[15:43] <adal> nope
[15:43] <adal> only a gtx970
[15:43] <Melioo> So you realize that you do have two video cards
[15:44] <adal> o sorry really?
[15:44] <Melioo> At least i hope you do now
[15:44] <Melioo> Yep
[15:44] <Melioo> Count them
[15:44] <Melioo> Intel integrated hd
[15:44] <Melioo> And gtx970
[15:44] <zvive> anyone know how to disable a display port's hdmi audio? -- since installing my onboard sound doesn't work -- I think it's conflicting... I have a VGA card r270x -- w/ vga2dvi, dvi, and display2dvi for 3 monitors...
[15:44] <django566> Hello everyone, I have a python daemon that I want to run using upstart. My script is the following http://paste.ubuntu.com/21152079/ It runs the first time, but when I tried to stop it just hangs in there, I need to CTRL+C. Any advice on how to solve this issue is more than welcome? Thank you to all of you
[15:44] <adal> yeah so i guessi  do have 2
[15:44] <adal> how do i fix this then?
[15:45] <Melioo> Adal, the intel omboard will use the output one way, and the gtx uses it another way
[15:45] <Melioo> But you can only do one card at a time
[15:46] <adal> how do i suspend the other one
[15:46] <Melioo> If the glx has two outputs thatabthe card you want
[15:46] <wish^> I have a laptop that has Ubuntu 14.04 LTS and now my battery power is at 94% all the time, it does not show charging if i put the charger in and the percentage and timer never moves
[15:46] <wish^> ANyone know how i can troubleshoot or fix the issue?
[15:46] <adal> ok thanks melioo
[15:46] <Melioo> Adal, first you gotta picl the card that will dlnwhat you want
[15:46] <Melioo> Pick
[15:46] <adal> yeah i would choose gtx 970
[15:47] <Melioo> Then find out if the kne you want is properly supported for dual
[15:47] <adal> kne?
[15:47] <chiluk> wish^: I had a similar issue.. it turned out to actually be the battery.
[15:47] <Melioo> Does the gtx970 have two hdmi out
[15:47] <dagerik> for some unknown reason, apache php5 module has become disabled! how can this happen
[15:47] <adal> nope
[15:47] <Melioo> Adal, kne is one
[15:47] <adal> oh
[15:49] <dagerik> unattended upgrade made apache's php5 module disabled
[15:49] <Melioo> Adal, dual display needs a dual output video card, your integrated one does have it i think the board has two hdmi or kne hdminonenvga foe the intel
[15:49] <Melioo> One hdmi and one vga
[15:50] <Melioo> Or two
[15:50] <adal> yes
[15:50] <adal> thats what i did
[15:50] <adal> i placed one in the hdmi and one in vga
[15:50] <Melioo> So if you want dual display.. intel wins
[15:50] <adal> so just plug cards to intel instad of gtx?
[15:50] <Melioo> I bought a number of dual output video cards
[15:50] <adal> i mean plug monitos
[15:51] <adal> can you recoend me some
[15:51] <Melioo> Adal, try that first, then make sure the intel on-board video is what is being used
[15:51] <Melioo> Then see if ubuntu detects the second monitor
[15:51] <adal> ok thanks
[15:51] <Melioo> Adal linux display stuff irritates new users
[15:52] <adal> yeah especially since it had worked so well when i used windows
[15:52] <Melioo> We used to have to edit files a lot more tonget Warcraft to work
[15:52] <Melioo> Lol
[15:52] <adal> lel
[15:53] <Melioo> Adal, linux is a supercar, windows is a minivan
[15:53] <Melioo> Sure both get groceries
[15:53] <Melioo> Butbone does it linux style
[15:54] <adal> yeah i agree
[15:54] <Melioo> My wife buys cars that do the job, like a truck for truck stuff
[15:54] <adal> exept the supercar is hard to drive
[15:54] <ducasse> adal: the problem with doing that is that you will not be able to use the gtx970 at all.
[15:55] <R13ose> I am using KDE with ubuntu but when I open some new applications, they are all black.  What do I do to fix this?
[15:55] <daku_> adal: just till you get used to it
[15:55] <Melioo> Ducasse yup
[15:55] <adal> wait
[15:55] <adal> whaa
[15:55] <Melioo> Adal, you get one card
[15:55] <adal> but gtx was so expensice
[15:55] <ducasse> Melioo: you can use intel _or_ gtx, not both.
[15:55] <Melioo> Adal, but if want dual monitor
[15:55] <ducasse> adal ^^
[15:56] <ducasse> sorry, Melioo
[15:56] <Melioo> Ducasse yeah choose your destructor
[15:56] <adal> in that case how do i make monitors work with gtx 970
[15:56] <virtuosoj> I broke Unity on my desktop messing around with CCSM and Unity Tweak Tool.  How can I fix this?
[15:56] <Melioo> Goser the goserian ...a choise has been made!
[15:56] <ducasse> adal: plug them to the gtx, not the intel, and set gtx to prioritized in bios.
[15:57] <Melioo> Ducasse only one output
[15:57] <adal> alright thanks ducasse
[15:57] <Melioo> Its not dual
[15:58] <teward> is there a way to simulate the OS upgrade process without actually upgrading it?
[15:58] <ducasse> adal: how many outputs can you see on the back of the gtx?
[15:58] <Melioo> I buy laptops now, yet still have the same problems you do adal
[15:58] <adal> none
[15:58] <adal> i only see outputs for motherboard
[15:58] <Melioo> Adal, i can click on minecraft, woth right click and it asks what video card to use
[15:58] <WhiteNight> teward, use the -s option in apt-get
[15:58] <Melioo> So itsnnot totally useless
[15:58] <WhiteNight> Check the man page for more details
[15:58] <wish^> My laptops battery seems to be discharging at 94% but it never goes down, even without the charger plugged in
[15:58] <adal> really melioo
[15:59] <teward> WhiteNight: thanks
[15:59] <Melioo> But it has to be supported
[15:59] <Melioo> Yeah butbim not sure if you can do dual woth one card
[15:59] <adal> i guess for gayming its best to use windows
[15:59] <Melioo> Then run windowed graphics or full screen
[15:59] <Melioo> It might be opengl handling that
[16:00] <Melioo> And yes i belive it can be done
[16:00] <ducasse> adal: check the manual to see what outputs are connected to what.
[16:00] <adal> alright will do
[16:01] <\9> googling the gtx 970 for images shows there to consistently be at least two outputs
[16:01] <adal> I just realised that the gtx970 only has 1 output and its a dvd i
[16:02] <Melioo> Adal http://askubuntu.com/questions/589432/how-to-change-which-graphics-card-a-program-uses
[16:02] <adal> ok thanks for link
[16:03] <Melioo> So independent choices for games to use a specific video card does work
[16:03] <\9> adal: are you sure about that? what brand is it?
[16:03] <Melioo> But itbhas to be supported
[16:03] <adal> evga
[16:03] <Melioo> I think nvidia handles it
[16:03] <Melioo> Not sure about ati
[16:03] <adal> its and evga i just looked on the back and thats teh only output i found
[16:03] <Melioo> Evga brand
[16:04] <Melioo> Vga is db9
[16:04] <Melioo> HDMI or dvi-d
[16:04] <Melioo> Eg. Old school vga
[16:04] <Melioo> Or dvi-d, or newer dvi like on tvs
[16:05] <adal> the thing has an dvi-d
[16:05] <Melioo> Or really old schools video and composite video
[16:05] <Melioo> Does it look white with holes and a slit on one side
[16:05] <adal> yes
[16:06] <Melioo> Thats dvi
[16:06] <Melioo> So you can convert that to vga or hdmi
[16:06] <adal> is ther one for both
[16:07] <Melioo> Ok so the glx has two
[16:07] <adal> that i can connect it to the dvi that will output to the vga and hdmi
[16:07] <holmser> I'm having a problem where the ubuntu desktop search function won't find any applications
[16:07] <holmser> I installed ubuntu desktop without recommended packages on ubuntu server
[16:07] <Melioo> Holmser i had that problem initally
[16:08] <\9> http://images.bit-tech.net/content_images/2014/09/nvidia-geforce-gtx-970-review/evga970-4b.jpg well i found pictures like this of an evga gtx 970
[16:08] <\9> it still has more than one output
[16:08] <holmser> Does anyone know what the search function is actually called?
[16:08] <Melioo> Why is the connector black
[16:08] <holmser> I can't seem to google it correctly
[16:08] <Melioo> Lol stupidity
[16:08] <adal> mine dosnt look like tha /9
[16:08] <Melioo> Holmser, ubuntu search
[16:09] <Melioo> Unuity search ubuntu
[16:09] <Melioo> If you gogle it
[16:09] <Melioo> Google
[16:09] <danimal2> hey, got ubuntu desktop 16 LTS, left pc on last night...was frozen when i got up, rebooted and just a flashing cursor on black screen...can someone assist?
[16:11] <Melioo> Danimal2, sounds like a bunch of reasons
[16:11] <danimal2> its a fairly fresh install, was working great for a few days.
[16:12] <Melioo> Nvidia card?
[16:12] <btteb> hi guys
[16:12] <danimal2> actually i think i do have one...id have to take peek under hood
[16:12] <adal> hi
[16:12] <btteb> where snap package are installed by default?
[16:13] <dalto> BINGO! installed Boot-Repair in Mint and now have GRUB as main bootloader ..Ubuntu, Mint and eek Win7 all bootable again :) Happy days
[16:13] <btteb> I'm planning to upgrade to 16.04, but not sure if 10 GB is enough for the root partition
[16:13] <danimal2> if ubuntu is not shut down properly, does it do something like windows scandisk to fix any OS issues?
[16:13] <Melioo> Btteb dpkg -L package name
[16:14] <ducasse> adal: if there is only one dvi connector, you can only connect one screen.
[16:14] <Melioo> Danimal how did you install it
[16:14] <ducasse> btteb: /snap
[16:14] <adal> ducasse: so i guess i would use the intel one?
[16:14] <btteb> thx for ur answer guys, how much should I allocate my parition for snap?
[16:14] <danimal2> thumb drive install..drive was completely wiped let ubuntu partition it..
[16:15] <Melioo> Adal, usong two videocards at once is typically laptop tech
[16:15] <ducasse> adal: it's a bad situation, because then you've paid for a card you won't be using.
[16:15] <Melioo> Asal kust saying its not a desktop thibg
[16:15] <Melioo> Thing
[16:15] <dalto> thx to the bot and BluesKaj - cheers
[16:15] <R13ose> In KDE on Ubuntu, the browsers (Chrome and FF) freeze on and off and don't see updates for the graphic driver.  Meaning I can still move around but I need to scroll or click link or switch tabs then move off of window and come back to see results.  How do I fix this?
[16:15] <adal> i see o welll i mean im still using the gtx when i use windows
[16:15] <adal> ill just use windows for games and ubuntu for work
[16:16] <Melioo> Adal, i dual boot
[16:16] <adal> same
[16:16] <Melioo> Every day i spend in Windows is another day ibspend in therapy
[16:16] <adal> lol why
[16:17] <btteb> R13ose do you have an ati card?
[16:17] <Melioo> Wibdows 10 is dismally made
[16:17] <Melioo> But im not baahing Oss here
[16:17] <Melioo> Os's
[16:17] <adal> o yes plus windows 10 is pure spyware
[16:17] <R13ose> btteb: I believe this is Intel graphics.
[16:18] <danimal2> Melioo, so ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS has issues with Nvidia cards?
[16:18] <R13ose> I am checking
[16:18] <Melioo> Adal, its not what i think, just my opinion that doesnt get heared
[16:19] <Melioo> Danimal there are some poats about it, didnt dig far enough
[16:19] <BlankSpace> hi
[16:19] <danimal2> ok, i hear you. thanks for input my friend. will try some stuff on my end :)
[16:19] <dalto> BluesKaj: now that GRUB is the main bootloader, could you foresee any issues in reinstalling a full backup of all partitions via a new Macrium Reflect procedure using Windows? Thoughts?
[16:19] <BlankSpace> i cant  hear sound on my ubuntu
[16:19] <adal> btw what wifi adapters do u guys use that are compatible with linux?
[16:19] <BlankSpace> os
[16:20] <adal> the one i have right now is only 2.4ghz
[16:20] <adal> i cant connect to 5
[16:20] <BlankSpace> can ny1 tell me wht cd b the reason
[16:20] <davido_> BlankSpace : When you open SoundSettings what do you see in the list under "Play sound through"?
[16:21] <BlankSpace> dummy output
[16:21] <davido_> that's it? No other devices?
[16:21] <BlankSpace> no
[16:22] <Deerclops> Hey guys, I'm on Lubuntu 14.04.4 and I'm trying to install an HP1018 printer. It's detected, it thinks all the necessary drivers are installed, but when I print a test page, it just disappears from the job queue after about 30 seconds, any ideas?
[16:22] <BlankSpace> just that
[16:22] <davido_> The real question then is why hasn't your sound device been detected.  Has it worked previously?
[16:22] <dalto> adal: Alfa AWUS036NH 2.4 GHz
[16:23] <adal> dalto: i need one that connects to 5ghz
[16:23] <dalto> adal: i see - my bad
[16:23] <adal> your ok
[16:24] <R13ose> Any thoughts on my question?
[16:25] <Melioo> R13 can you repeat it
[16:25] <ducasse> R13ose: if you're on kde, try #kubuntu, maybe someone there has seen the same problem.
[16:26] <davido_> BlankSpace in a terminal what do you see when you cat /proc/asound/cards and cat /proc/asound/devices ?
[16:26] <R13ose> ducasse: will do
[16:26] <dalto> adal: Alfa AWUS051NH Dual Band
[16:26] <davido_> I guess not "what do you see" but "do you see cards detected and devices detected?
[16:27] <Melioo> Im a little giggly
[16:27] <adal> dalto: that one looks good thanks dalto
[16:27] <R13ose> In KDE on Ubuntu, the browsers (Chrome and FF) freeze on and off and don't see updates for the graphic driver.  Meaning I can still move around but I need to scroll or click link or switch tabs then move off of window and come back to see results.  How do I fix this?
[16:27] <dalto> :)
[16:27] <craptalk> Is it necessary to learn linux file system? As if we learn windows folders on windows OS?
[16:27] <Melioo> My theoretical concept is equivalent toba masters dissertation project of an IT Master's degree
[16:28] <davido_> craptalk Necessity is going to depend on what you wish to accomplish.
[16:28] <\9> craptalk: depends on your needs. the linux filesystem has a lot of features that are only really visible in the terminal
[16:29] <craptalk> davido_: I want to learn deeper about linux configuration. And i love terminal, so i want to have the knowledge
[16:29] <davido_> BlankSpace You may find this useful: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1316634
[16:29] <\9> craptalk: then i would suggest reading more into it
[16:30] <craptalk> \9: alright
[16:30] <davido_> craptalk So your question is similar to, "Is it necessary to learn the letters A through F if my goal is to learn the alphabet?"
[16:31] <vagabondtechie> join machinelearning
[16:32] <R13ose> Melioo: did you see my question?
[16:36] <tmianotc> ?
[16:36] <tmianotc> 这是啥？
[16:37] <ducasse> !cn | tmianotc
[16:37] <berat> hello
[16:37] <berat> anyone here ?
[16:37] <tmianotc> here
[16:37] <berat> i need help
[16:38] <t3kg33k_> Hello
[16:40] <t3kg33k_> In a shell script, does anyone know if it is possible to launch a new terminal window with a command and command output?
[16:41] <BluesKaj> adroit_machine_, any success? I was gone for a bit doing some errands
[16:41] <ducasse> t3kg33k_: 'xterm -e command_goes_here'
[16:41] <t3kg33k_> What if xterm is not installed? Not every distro has xterm installed by default.
[16:41] <tmianotc> join #ubuntu-cn
[16:42] <dalto> BluesKaj: I can pass on a good news story :)
[16:42] <ducasse> t3kg33k_: ubuntu does, but it usually works for every terminal
[16:42] <tmianotc> join  #ubuntu - tw
[16:43] <BluesKaj> dalto, ok. I'm "listening"  :-)
[16:43] <dalto> (sweEt smell of GRUB Loading success)
[16:43] <brushdemon> <3~
[16:43] <Zen__> t3kg33k_: then gnome-terminal -e <command>
[16:44] <BluesKaj> dalto, good
[16:44] <t3kg33k_> What if that command has spaces, like 'ip addr'?
[16:44] <ducasse> t3kg33k_: then quote it
[16:44] <t3kg33k_> ducasse: okay. thanks. I will try that out.
[16:45] <ducasse> t3kg33k_: for some terminals, -e needs to be the last option on the line
[16:47] <tmianotc> 什么鬼？
[16:47] <dalto> BluesKaj: now that I have GRUB successfully booting 2 x Linux && Win 7 could you see any issue in creating a new Macrium Reflect omage of all partitions? On reinstall image I mean...thoughts?
[16:48] <berat> guys i cant make higher resolution than 1024x768 do you know why
[16:49] <dalto> BluesKaj: better way of complete backup of all OS's without boot issues on reinstall?
[16:52] <berat> anyone?
[16:55] <rosgani> berat ?
[16:56] <BluesKaj> dalto, that's a matter of individual OSs stabilty of their boot and bootloader and related apps including X and and graphics/drivers etc etc
[16:56] <tmianotc> join #ubuntu - tw
[16:56] <ducasse> tmianotc: /join #ubuntu-tw
[16:57] <davido_> tmianotc /join #ubuntu-tw
[16:57] <Zen__> berat: what xrandr show?
[16:57] <davido_> (sorry)
[16:57] <tmianotc> join #ubuntu-tw
[16:57] <ducasse> tmianotc: /join
[16:57] <davido_> tmianotc  /join  :)  join :(
[16:58] <dalto> BluesKaj: erm...OK. I'll test later today (3am here now) with Macrium...nothing to lose (second machine) - cheers
[17:01] <dalto> berat: open Terminal -> $ xrandr as mentioned .... if other settings available try setting with xrandr --output LVDS --mode XXXXxXXX
[17:02] <BluesKaj> thought you might be an aussie dalto ...3AM
[17:03] <dalto> berat: E.g.--mode 1152x864
[17:04] <dalto> BluesKaj: how'd ya guess (mate ;)
[17:04] <Guest64549> hello
[17:04] <BluesKaj> dalto, IP tracker :-)
[17:04] <berat> wait i will do that
[17:04] <dalto> lol
[17:05] <dalto> BluesKaj: no hiding these days I guess
[17:07] <EriC^^> somebody highlighted me?
[17:07] <BluesKaj> dalto, well you can request a cloak at #freenode chat if your nick is regtistered or choose one that's not registered yet
[17:07] <berat> dalto it didnt work
[17:07] <berat> @dalto
[17:08] <davido_> no need to prefix nicks with @ here.
[17:08] <ducasse> berat: did you use the right output name? and what do you mean by "it didn't work"?
[17:08] <dalto> BluesKaj: yep I seen that but I'm on a Virtual adapter anyways - guess I could be duped but I aint that worried ... not hiding anything here
[17:08] <BluesKaj> berat, @ isn'trequired on irc, the nick alone will highlight
[17:10] <dalto> (Thinks if someone needs the last 5'er in my account they need ot more than me)
[17:10] <berat> sorry im new in here
[17:11] <Bassem> how can i know my vga memory
[17:11] <berat> how do i know output name
[17:11] <dalto> (And they appreciate large individuals with the nickname Bubba)
[17:12] <xboy> Hi there!
[17:12] <ducasse> berat: 'xrandr' will list outputs.
[17:12] <xboy> does someone know which kernel version supports nvme?
[17:12] <dalto> Gday
[17:13] <berat> Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1024 x 768, maximum 8192 x 8192
[17:13] <berat> VGA-0 connected primary 1024x768+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 0mm x 0mm
[17:13] <berat>    1024x768      60.00*
[17:13] <berat>    800x600       60.32    56.25
[17:13] <berat>    848x480       60.00
[17:13] <berat>    640x480       59.94
[17:13] <ducasse> !paste | berat
[17:15] <dead_> INDIA
[17:15] <berat> sorry for that
[17:15] <dead_> can you help me to setup the btrfs system on ubuntu system
[17:16] <OerHeks> !btrfs
[17:17] <ducasse> dead_: if you are sure you need and want it, just choose it instead of ext4 in the installer.
[17:18] <dead_> ducasse i am trying the conversion process but its failed to get it
[17:18] <ducasse> dead_: that is not recommended.
[17:19] <mcphail> dead_: I would not trust the conversion process
[17:19] <ikonia> it won't convert....
[17:19] <ikonia> despite what any docs or people say
[17:20] <mcphail> dead_: if you want btrfs, best to start from scratch
[17:20] <ikonia> ducasse: why do you actually want btrfs ?
[17:20] <ducasse> ikonia: i don't :)
[17:20] <dead_> ok
[17:20] <ikonia> sorry, I meant dead_
[17:20] <dead_> i want to do project on it
[17:20] <ikonia> why
[17:20] <ikonia> what actual btrfs needs do you have
[17:21] <dead_> its my college project and i decied to analyse it
[17:21] <ikonia> analyse what ?
[17:21] <ducasse> dead_: then reinstall with it
[17:21] <dead_> inode superblocks
[17:21] <dead_> okk
[17:21] <dead_> is it possible in virtualbox
[17:21] <mcphail> dead_: you can always creat a filesystem image and mount it locally for experimentation
[17:22] <ikonia> yes....but
[17:22] <dead_> because i do not want to damged my main os
[17:22] <dead_> yes i did it
[17:22] <dead_> with ext4
[17:22] <ikonia> why did you use ext4 if you're trying to work on btrfs
[17:23] <mcphail> dead_: then create a large sparse file, format as btrfs and mount it as a playground
[17:23] <NewGnuGuy> So I have my home directory as its own partition on my hard disk. Before this partition on the disk is empty space. Using a Live distro I want to move the partition to the beginning of the empty space and grow the partition to fill the available space. Is there anything I need to do to keep the mount point configuration from breaking?
[17:23] <ikonia> NewGnuGuy: nope
[17:23] <max3> i'm running lubuntu 16.04 and the bottom of my apps get obscured by the taskbar. how can i make it so that they don't? ie so they end at the top of the taskbar
[17:24] <dead_> same i am also using 16.04
[17:24] <GnomeKris> I just installed and formatted (ext4) a new drive to put my steam games on...but I can't put anything on the drive because I apparently don't own it...I forget how to take proper ownership of the drive and have it automatically mount at boot..
[17:24] <ducasse> max3: can't you autohide the taskbar?
[17:24] <GnomeKris> Adding some lines in /etc/fstab I think. But I don't know what to add.
[17:25] <ikonia> GnomeKris: chown
[17:25] <max3> ducasse, i don't want to autohide. i just want to it exclude the windows
[17:25] <GnomeKris> sudo chown /dev/sda/...
[17:25] <GnomeKris> or so?
[17:25] <ikonia> no
[17:25] <ikonia> not the device file
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[17:25] <ikonia> the file system
[17:25] <NewGnuGuy> ikonia: It will still mount the partition just fine despite starting earlier on the disk and being larger?
[17:25] <ikonia> NewGnuGuy: yes
[17:25] <ducasse> max3: don't know if openbox can do that, have you looked in the manual if you can reserve a region of the screen?
[17:25] <dalto> night (hhh hmmm morning) all
[17:26] <GnomeKris> after looking at man chown... "sudo chown me:me /dev/sda
[17:26] <GnomeKris> "
[17:26] <GnomeKris> ??
[17:27] <NewGnuGuy> ikonia: ok thanks
[17:27] <ikonia> GnomeKris: no
[17:27] <max3> ducasse, i don't know exactly what to search for? just "reserve region"?
[17:27] <ikonia> GnomeKris: not the device file - the file system
[17:28] <ducasse> max3: maybe, or "borders of screen" - something like that.
[17:28] <GnomeKris> so it'd be /media/me/disk
[17:29] <ikonia> ok
[17:29] <GnomeKris> then add lines to /etc/fstab/ to make it auto mount.
[17:30] <ikonia> if you want
[17:30] <david__> running trusty with strong wifi and internet is sporadic with frequent drops and connects  ??
[17:30] <tikun> I'm in the chatroom that is directly related to the question I have but I have found it to be notoriously dead in there.. does anyone happen to be familiar with SIP PBX systems?
[17:32] <ducasse> davido_: 2.4 or 5ghz? which chipset?
[17:33] <davido_> I think you mean david__ ducasse
[17:34] <max3> ducasse, https://sourceforge.net/p/lxde/bugs/581/
[17:34] <max3> ducasse, thanks for google keyword idea
[17:34] <ducasse> davido_: he must have left, sorry - bad tab complete.
[17:34] <davido_> np :)
[17:35] <GnomeKris> I get "missing operand after /media/me/disk" When I run chown...the --help that it's recommending I read, isn't helping.
[17:35] <ducasse> GnomeKris: exactly what command are you running?
[17:36] <GnomeKris> sudo chown /media/me/disk
[17:36] <GnomeKris> I may be missing some syntax if I'm misreading the man page.
[17:36] <ducasse> GnomeKris: you need to specify who to chown to
[17:37] <ducasse> chown user:group directory
[17:37] <GnomeKris> so me:me
[17:37] <dellhem> Hey. How do I stop Pidgin from autostart at login? There's no entry in startup applications
[17:37] <dellhem> I've found numerous threads with the same problem, but no real solution.
[17:38] <fractal> was really looking forward to using gnome disks to setup LUKS on my external HD, but it keeps crashing
[17:38] <fractal> so much for that
[17:38] <fractal> :(
[17:40] <GnomeKris> Well, the command went through...and I did sudo mount -a to reload fstab...but it still shows the drive as owned by root
[17:41] <GnomeKris> maybe a reboot will make it read correctly?
[17:43] <merpnderp> wow, just used 16.04 desktop after not using a linux desktop for 6 years......That is slick.
[17:43] <merpnderp> two finger scrolling, soft tap clicks, UX is amazing.
[17:43] <merpnderp> And so easy to customize.
[17:43] <merpnderp> Now I just need a fully compatible laptop....System76 the best bet?
[17:44] <genii> !hcl
[17:45] <GnomeKris> Nope, reboot didn't do a thing
[17:46] <Dechcaudron> \join #d
[17:46] <ducasse> GnomeKris: is there data on the filesystem, and that is what is owned by rrot?
[17:46] <Dechcaudron> oops
[17:47] <GnomeKris> ducasse: No, it's a completely empty hdd that I just installed and formatted to ext4 via gparted
[17:47] <merpnderp> Well dell is out...with noscript and ublock their site is unusable no matter how many domains I allow JS from.
[17:48] <ducasse> GnomeKris: then what is owned by root? what does 'ls -ld' on the mountpoint show?
[17:49] <fractal> is there another easy way besides gnome disks to create a LUKS + ext4 partition graphically?
[17:49] <fractal> i left the boxes ticked to send error reports for the crashes that did happen, so hopefully something comes of it
[17:49] <fractal> :(
[17:49] <fractal> but i just can't get this to work for me right now
[17:50] <GnomeKris> results from "ls -ld /media/kristopher/SteamGames" drwxr-xr-x 4 kristopher kristopher 4096 Jun 24 14:51 /media/kristopher/SteamGames
[17:50] <GnomeKris> ducasse ^^
[17:50] <ducasse> GnomeKris: so what do you see being owned by root?
[17:51] <hurasafee> hello guys. I'm a newbie, and I need to connect to a VPN but it is a L2TP VPN and I can't configure the connection, help?
[17:53] <GnomeKris> fadkljldk;a;kdsa
[17:53] <GnomeKris> I see /media/kristopher/SteamGames user and group as root when I look at the permissions tab
[17:54] <GnomeKris> in the properties window...
[17:54] <ducasse> GnomeKris: try 'sudo chown -R kristopher:kristopher /media/kristopher/SteamGames'
[17:55] <merpnderp> Bluh, dell and hp fail. Tried to find the cheapest laptops with 2 display ports and skylake with IPS, and it was impossible to even know where to begin.
[17:56] <GnomeKris> damn. I'm a fool
[17:56] <GnomeKris> I know my issue. I'm trying to own a new disk that has the same name as the old one.
[17:57] <GnomeKris> Gotta rename and mount the old one in a different place first. Then this should work swimmingly
[18:00] <ducasse> GnomeKris: you may want to mount it somewhere other than under /media, afaik that dir is handled by gvfs.
[18:00] <fractal> looks like a known bug for my issue: Error waiting for LUKS UUID: Timed out waiting for object (udisks-error-quark, 0)
[18:00] <fractal> any workarounds greatly appreciated
[18:00] <fractal> :(
[18:00] <GnomeKris> Where would you suggest then?
[18:01] <hurasafee> Can anyone help me configuring a VPN with strongswan? I'm new to linux
[18:01] <ducasse> GnomeKris: /steamgames? /home/user/steamgames? whatever you prefer :)
[18:02] <GnomeKris> Here's my ultimate plan. Steam games on my 3tb disk, /home on my 320gb disk, and Ubuntu Gnome 16.04.1 on my 120gb ssd
[18:03] <GnomeKris> but currently games are on the 320gb hdd...while ubuntu and everything associated are on the 120gb ssd
[18:03] <ducasse> GnomeKris: is this an external disk?
[18:03] <GnomeKris> so I have to move the games first. then move /home, then upgrade (read as fresh install) 16.04.1
[18:03] <GnomeKris> No, all disks are internal
[18:03] <GnomeKris> sata drives
[18:04] <ducasse> GnomeKris: /home is now on the ssd?
[18:05] <fractal> hurasafee: help me with mine and i help you with yours
[18:05] <GnomeKris> Yes, it is on the same disk as my ubuntu 14.04 installation. I'd like to separate it in order to make upgrading or changing distro's easier in the future
[18:05] <fractal> lol
[18:05] <fractal> jk
[18:05] <ducasse> GnomeKris: first, move games to 3tb disk, then move /home to the 320gb.
[18:05] <fractal> they don't like n00bz in here that's why they ignore us
[18:05] <fractal> :(
[18:06] <GnomeKris> Yes, that's the plan. Gotta take ownership of the 3tb first, but it's name is to similar to the 320gb currently
[18:06] <hurasafee> fractal, RIP
[18:06] <fractal> ;(
[18:06] <GnomeKris> I'm thinking to rename the 320 to Home first, and remove it's fstab entry, then take ownership of the 3tb
[18:06] <patorea> Im new
[18:07] <GnomeKris> I think the similar naming is causing my issue
[18:09] <ducasse> GnomeKris: you can just mount the 3tb outside of /media and chown it, the name doesn't really matter.
[18:09] <GnomeKris> The mount points will all change when I install 16.04 anyway, so it won't matter...
[18:09] <GnomeKris> Perfect then. thanks
[18:10] <GnomeKris> I'll give it a shot and get back to you.
[18:10] <ducasse> GnomeKris: ok, good luck :)
[18:15] <fractal> well i was able to format ext4 but without LUKS
[18:15] <fractal> guess encryption will have to wait for now
[18:15] <fractal> :(
[18:15] <fractal> at least the disk is usable
[18:16] <ale__> Hi. I want to advertise this Android app that has only news on Linux. I hope this is not considered off-topic here. Thank you. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=it.pinenuts.linuxnews
[18:16] <ducasse> ale__: no, it's not ot, it's spam.
[18:17] <fractal> i'm not spamming and still getting no answers!
[18:17] <fractal> does nobody else here attempt LUKS in the gnome disk util?
[18:18] <ale__> ducasse, actually I honestly think that it is interesting for any linux users. But I won't post anything more
[18:18] <Xpr_X0> hi everyone, I am trying to check the md5 for a lot of files that I have moved from another machine. A while back over  a year ago some one in this channel was kind enough to give me a very nice and easy command to record the md5 sum for all the files in a folder and then simple check them in the destination. But I can not remember that command and
[18:18] <Xpr_X0>  all the commands online are kind of messed up or not giving the results that I want
[18:18] <Xpr_X0> any help?
[18:18] <fractal> ale__: at least you get a response, even for spam
[18:18] <fractal> i think everyone has me on ignore or something
[18:19] <fractal> friendly, helpful community... where?
[18:19] <fractal> :(
[18:19] <ale__> fractal, :D
[18:19] <mike-zal> I have problem with ttf-mscorefonts-installer. it comes back again and again because it wasn't able to perfom the action. I already tried to install it from terminal, accepted eula but windows still pops up and fonts are not there
[18:19] <elias_a> fractal: What is your prob?
[18:20] <ikonia> fractal: if someone can't help - it doesn't make people unfriendly
[18:20] <ikonia> you complaining and just constantly asking isn't actually "nice",
[18:20] <ikonia> fractal: summerise your question, ask it wait for a response, wait and repeat clearly
[18:20] <ducasse> fractal: maybe nobody has tried luks with gnome disks? i've only ever used cryptsetup myself.
[18:20] <elias_a> mike-zal: Thou shalt not suck! (Beavis&Butthead)
[18:21] <ale__> Xpr_X0, md5sum * > md5.txt to generate the md5 file
[18:21] <ale__> Xpr_X0, then, on the other machine, use md5sum --quite -c md5.txt
[18:21] <fractal> i had really high hopes for encrypting my external harddrive, been putting it off for weeks and anticipated smooth sailing only to be presented with errors in Gnome Disk utility when using LUKS+ext4. if i format it without LUKS it works fine.
[18:21] <ale__> Xpr_X0, it will show only corrupted files
[18:21] <Xpr_X0> ale__ : Thank you so very much. but why --quit ?
[18:22] <ale__> Xpr_X0, --quite make it not show OK for every file that is good
[18:22] <ducasse> fractal: didn't you say earlier that it was a known bug?
[18:22] <ale__> Xpr_X0, I guess you're after wrongly transferred files only, right?
[18:22] <Xpr_X0> ale__ : alright. so if I have about a million files how can I know which ones are the bad ones?
[18:22] <ikonia> fractal: you're trying to encrypt an encypted disk ?
[18:23] <ikonia> or have I read you wrong
[18:23] <fractal> ducasse: it appears to be, and an OLD one at that. i would imagine there is some kind of workaround?? there might not be. not that i can find anyhow
[18:23] <ikonia> fractal: what is the bug id
[18:23] <fractal> ikonia: one sec i have to restore closed tabs to pull it up
[18:23] <ducasse> fractal: if you found a bug report, there might be a workaround in the comments - did you read them?
[18:24] <Xpr_X0> ale__ : yes exactly
[18:24] <ale__> Xpr_X0, md5sum --quiet -c md5.txt > wrongfiles.txt
[18:24] <Xpr_X0> what is the best approach?
[18:24] <ikonia> fractal: thank you
[18:25] <fractal> ducasse: i read the first few comments, i didn't scroll down all the way though tbh
[18:25] <fractal> ikonia: it's this error, but this is a redhat bug
[18:25] <fractal> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1299192
[18:25] <fractal> that is my exact error though, and recent
[18:26] <ikonia> fractal: thats not an old bug or version
[18:26] <ikonia> there is very little info or activity on it
[18:26] <fractal> oh no :(
[18:26] <ikonia> fractal: have you checked launchpad to see if there is anything referenced against the ubuntu package ?
[18:26] <ale__> Xpr_X0, for a million files it's likely to take a long time just to make ls
[18:26] <Xpr_X0> ale__ : my man md5sum * does not go into directories
[18:26] <GnomeKris> Okay, got the drives right...fastest way to copy paste without taking forever?
[18:27] <ikonia> copy and paste ?
[18:27] <GnomeKris> ducasse^^ ikonia^^
[18:27] <GnomeKris> copy paste is showing 12 hours for 276gb
[18:27] <GnomeKris> there has to be a faster way
[18:27] <ikonia> GnomeKris: why ?
[18:27] <ducasse> GnomeKris: copying takes as long as it takes :)
[18:27] <ikonia> GnomeKris: a disk will only spin at a certain speed, you only have a certain ammount of ram / cpu in your system, you only have some much room on the bus
[18:28] <ikonia> why must there be a quicker way ?
[18:28] <GnomeKris> but I don't have...11 hours to wait...
[18:28] <ale__> Xpr_X0, then try this: find . -type f -print0 | xargs -0 md5sum > md5.txt
[18:28] <GnomeKris> I have 16gigs of ram...so that's probably not my problem
[18:28] <ducasse> GnomeKris: then you can't copy everything.
[18:28] <ikonia> GnomeKris: just wait it out
[18:28] <GnomeKris> shit
[18:28] <fractal> ikonia: bugs https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-disk-utility/+bug/1318954 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/debian/+source/util-linux/+bug/1059872 look very similar to mine
[18:29] <GnomeKris> there has to be a faster way..
[18:29] <Xpr_X0> ale__ : I have seen that on the Internet, but the problem is the checking part. how can I check?
[18:29] <GnomeKris> I'm going to google
[18:29]  * ptah drinks wine
[18:29] <ikonia> fractal: not sure they are the same
[18:29] <ale__> Xpr_X0, md5sum -c does the checking
[18:29] <ikonia> GnomeKris: why does there have to be a faster way ?
[18:30] <ale__> Xpr_X0, what errors do you get from md5sum -c ?
[18:30] <fractal> ikonia: not really, but part of the error message matches, not entirely, but it looks like util-linux is to blame maybe?
[18:30] <GnomeKris> because it's 2:30 pm and I can't be up at 2:30 am working on this thing.
[18:30] <fractal> they were in the first page of my google results went i pasted my error msg
[18:30] <ikonia> fractal: based on the redhat bug - I don't think they are linked (just a personal opinion)
[18:30] <ikonia> GnomeKris: so leave it going over night
[18:31] <GnomeKris> This jet engine of a pc sits right next to my bed...
[18:31] <ikonia> sleep in another room
[18:31] <GnomeKris> There isn't one.
[18:31] <ikonia> sleep at a friends house - come on,
[18:31] <teward> or buy earplugs
[18:31] <Xpr_X0> ale__ : no errors just a long ok'ed list, which I suppose can be solved using the command you mentioned up there
[18:32] <l> Hi
[18:32] <fractal> ikonia: here is my error msg. copied and pasted directly from the dialog that popped up and ruined my whole day: Error waiting for LUKS UUID: Timed out waiting for object (udisks-error-quark, 0)
[18:32] <ducasse> GnomeKris: as said, copying takes as long as it takes. 100's of gigabytes _will_ take many hours.
[18:32] <GnomeKris> This is why I love this community...there's a solution for everything.
[18:33] <fractal> ikonia: that is all i really have to search by
[18:33] <ikonia> fractal: I appreciate thats quite limiting
[18:33] <ducasse> GnomeKris: are you blaming us for slow spinning disks?
[18:33] <ikonia> fractal: does the syslog show anything ?
[18:33] <GnomeKris> ducasse: Yes... /s
[18:33] <Xpr_X0> problem solved
[18:33] <Xpr_X0> thanks folks
[18:34] <razor1101> GnomeKris: well, the write speed has a limit. You should get a ssd if you want faster transfers
[18:34] <fractal> ikonia: can you tell me how to check? anything beyond the GUI is probably something i don't know how to do
[18:34] <fractal> :(
[18:34] <ctjctj_> GnomeKris, a couple of tissues can be used as ear plugs.  But yes, those jet engines are loud.  But it keeps your drives from burning up.
[18:34] <ikonia> fractal: there should be a text file in /var/log  have a look at that
[18:34] <GnomeKris> I'm a poor white kid from the ghetto...Not enough money for a 3tb ssd
[18:34] <fractal> k thx
[18:34] <fractal> i am going to reboot real quick brb
[18:34] <ctjctj_> GnomeKris, are you using btrfs?
[18:34] <ikonia> fractal: it won't fix anything, but may give you more info
[18:34] <Rohan_Kumar> Hi all!
[18:35] <Rohan_Kumar> I've a 64 gb pendrive which was initially formatted as exfat
[18:35] <GnomeKris> ctjctj, not that I'm aware of. Just a simple highlight, cut, paste.
[18:35] <GnomeKris> Love me some gui.
[18:35] <ikonia> ctjctj_: he's using ext4
[18:35] <Xpr_X0> ale__ : thank you. It is working
[18:36] <ale__> Xpr_X0, good to hear that :)
[18:36] <Xpr_X0> gonna take a long while though, cause I am sha1ing
[18:36] <genii> Rohan_Kumar: You might want to consider installing the package exfat-utils then
[18:36] <Xpr_X0> thanks anyways
[18:36] <ctjctj_> ikonia, *nods* if he is having disk issues and dollars issues then using btrfs with an SSD cache might give him resilience and speed.
[18:36] <ale__> Xpr_X0, you should parallelize things a bit to make it faster, but it's definitely not trivial
[18:36] <ikonia> ctjctj_: way over kill
[18:37] <Rohan_Kumar> Yes, i installed it. Everything was running smoothly
[18:37] <ikonia> ctjctj_: he's just an impatient kid copying a load of data
[18:37] <GnomeKris> screw it, while I'm doing this cp, I'll write my 16.04.1 usb
[18:37] <ikonia> GnomeKris: yeah, thats not going to help
[18:37] <Rohan_Kumar> then i did this stupid mistake by formatting it as fat32
[18:37] <ikonia> putting more i/o on the system
[18:37] <GnomeKris> ikonia: impatient...yes, kid...no.
[18:37] <ikonia> GnomeKris: I can only assume from your behaviour and comments
[18:37] <ikonia> "but I want it now now now"
[18:37] <GnomeKris> 27 my man. got three kids of my own...Yet another reason this waiting isn't going to work.
[18:38] <ikonia> an adult would understand limitations
[18:38] <ctjctj_> ikonia, *grins* good point.  Inpatient is I.   Having 15TB of spinning disk I know exactly how long it takes to replace a 3TB disk....   OUCH
[18:38] <Xpr_X0> ale__ : you mean like using all the four cores of the cpu? isn't sha1sum command using them automatically?
[18:38] <Rohan_Kumar> genii: Now when i try to access the pendrive i get : http://pastebin.ca/3667153
[18:38] <GnomeKris> See, when you assume. You make an ass out of u and me.
[18:38] <Rohan_Kumar> Please help me . I don't understand how to format it back to fat32
[18:38] <ale__> Xpr_X0, no, it shouldn't. You could easily guess by looking at the current cpu usage
[18:38] <ayoub> HI EVERYONE
[18:38] <Mishari> guys
[18:38] <Ben64> Rohan_Kumar: if you formatted it fat32, why would you try to mount it as exfat
[18:38] <ale__> Xpr_X0, if you have 4 cores you should launch 4 processes
[18:39] <Mishari> I just came here.
[18:39] <Mishari> to say
[18:39] <Mishari> I love you
[18:39] <elias_a> Oh my... problems like GnomeKris makes me feel world is going to collapse.
[18:39] <guest-pN44kG> v
[18:39] <guest-pN44kG> vv
[18:39] <guest-pN44kG> v
[18:39] <guest-pN44kG> v
[18:39] <Xpr_X0> ale__ : you mean a different sha1 command for a fraction of the files right?
[18:39] <ale__> Xpr_X0, yes
[18:39] <Rohan_Kumar> Ben64: I read somewhere on internet that fat32 are not compatible for disks > 32 gb
[18:39] <Xpr_X0> but it is going to only make thing harder to manage a bit
[18:39] <Ben64> Rohan_Kumar: not correct
[18:40] <Xpr_X0> there is simply a lot of files
[18:40] <Rohan_Kumar> Ben64: sure about that?
[18:40] <elias_a> GnomeKris: Your problems make my struggle with my inboard diesel engine a light thrill!
[18:40] <Ben64> Rohan_Kumar: yep
[18:40] <ale__> Xpr_X0, are the files distributed evenly in subfolders?
[18:40] <Xpr_X0> yes
[18:40] <OerHeks> Rohan_Kumar, you mean man 4 gb filesize on fat32
[18:40] <ale__> how many subfolders in first level?
[18:41] <Xpr_X0> 20
[18:41] <OerHeks> c/man/max
[18:41] <GnomeKris> Ha, this pc issue is simple right now. I'm taking a break from digging the fuel pump out of my infiniti and replacing it.
[18:41] <Rohan_Kumar> OerHeks: I have a 64 gb usb
[18:41] <fractal> ikonia: i am in the syslog but it is absolutely over my head
[18:41] <elias_a> GnomeKris: Now we are talking real issues!
[18:42] <Xpr_X0> I have a feeling that going classically on this thing is a bit safer ale__
[18:42] <fractal> i will keep looking though and maybe i will see something
[18:42] <fractal> :(
[18:42] <elias_a> GnomeKris: So your piece of junk gives you headache and you come here to complain? :P
[18:42] <fractal> i'll recreate the error now, and keep track of the TIME
[18:42] <genii> Rohan_Kumar: Also, looks like you're trying to mount the entire device,eg: sdb instead of a partition, like sdb1
[18:42] <fractal> that will help me isolate at least what activity i am directly responsible for i suppose
[18:42] <Xpr_X0> It is going to be over after about four hours. 170 GB of files... I am patient enough
[18:43] <Rohan_Kumar> genii: Now i formatted it to fat via executing :  sudo mkfs.vfat -n "PENDRIVE" -I /dev/sdb
[18:43] <odroid> hi everyone
[18:44] <GnomeKris> elias_a I guess I'm just having a bad day
[18:44] <genii> Rohan_Kumar: The maion problem seems to be that you are formatting the raw device instead of making a partition on it then formatting that
[18:44] <elias_a> GnomeKris: Me too. Join the club! :D
[18:44] <Rohan_Kumar> genii: when i try to open it in nautilus, i get this error: http://pastebin.ca/3667154
[18:44] <ptah> im using xchat, i couldnt get bitchx to work, cause it said no setupterm or tgetent, i tried getting those didnt work
[18:44] <GnomeKris> elias_a theres a club? where do I sign up?
[18:44] <ptah> what to do?
[18:45] <odroid> somebody could me help
[18:45] <genii> Rohan_Kumar: I reiterate again about raw device vs partition within the deveice
[18:45] <elias_a> GnomeKris: Would you know any marine diesel experts? :)
[18:45] <ale__> Xpr_X0, ls | xargs -i echo "find {} -type f -print0 | xargs -n1 -P4 -0 md5sum | tee {}.md5"
[18:45] <GnomeKris> elias_a: unfortunately, I do not.
[18:46] <odroid> I try to able to work chromium on my system but it crash I suppose the accelaration
[18:46] <Rohan_Kumar> genii: Is partitioning a pendrive a good thing? How would it be read on windows?
[18:46] <elias_a> GnomeKris: Ok. I'll continue my browsing and fault-seeking. :)
[18:47] <Pici> ptah: bitchx has been deprecated for a while now. If you want to use a cli irc client, both irssi and weechat are under active development and can be found in the repositories.
[18:47] <odroid> ah!it is too late for the partition
[18:48] <ctjctj_> ale__, what is that command suppose to do?  Wouldn't something like "find . -type f -print0 | xargs -0 md5sum >/tmp/files.md5" accomplish the same thing?
[18:48] <mike-zal> help! I clicked "use default settings" in unity tweak and now there is no dock and panel! restart didn't help... terminal is working thou..
[18:49] <fractal> ikonia: i timed it down to the very minute, i see nothing relevant
[18:49] <fractal> this is where i give up and wait for things to resolve itself over the course of weeks, months, years...
[18:49] <fractal> :(
[18:50] <fractal> it's going to take smarts to figure this out,  not idiots with low IQs such as myself
[18:50] <fractal> i stand down :(
[18:50] <fractal> thanks for giving me direction though
[18:50] <Amm0n> fractal, just use cryptsetup..
[18:50] <Amm0n> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemsOnRemovableStorage
[18:51] <fractal> Amm0n: i was trying the graphical option at the top
[18:51] <fractal> i'd rather not mess with the command line i will ruin my system
[18:52] <fractal> i alwayys do
[18:52] <ptah> oh ok
[18:52] <ptah> i didnt know
[18:52] <ptah> been a while, xchat is what i got working
[18:52] <fractal> Amm0n: thanks though.. it's just such a sensitive operation i don't want to lose everything :/
[18:52] <fractal> that's why the gnome disk graphical utility finally made LUKS usable for me, or so i thought..
[18:53] <FlipBill> fractal, I know nothing about gnome disk utils,but I use LUKS from CLI all the time and it is very straightforward.
[18:54] <FlipBill> I'll help you set up an ecrypted drive from the shell if you are interested.
[18:54] <FlipBill> encrypted.
[18:55] <smk_> Hy
[18:55] <irregular> Hi guys, I'm trying to use openconnect to vpn somewhere, what's the difference between the Gateway and Proxy? I have the IP address of where I want to vpn and the Group name, not sure where to put it
[18:57] <jatt> irregular: openconnect -u user vpn_url should work
[18:58] <hillary> Hi all
[18:58] <jatt> irregular: it works for me with my company vpn only the username/password/vpn_url is needed
[18:59] <fractal> FlipBill: i will think about it. i was just really excited about the GUI option. does the offer still stand later? i'm due for lunch and a nap now :(
[18:59] <ea> Hey guys , How do I disable that purple loading screen in ubuntu ?
[18:59] <fractal> kinda not focused anymore
[18:59] <fractal> ea: qustion is, why would you want to?
[19:00] <fractal> it's beautiful
[19:00] <fractal> ok lunch.. i'll be back, maybe :(
[19:00] <ea> It hides what's really happening
[19:00] <irregular> jatt: is sudo required for this? I got mkdir: cannot create directory ‘/var/run/vpnc’: Permission denied
[19:00] <irregular> though I was able to connect albeit briefly
[19:01] <fractal> ea: during bootup, or the splash screen on login?
[19:01] <ea> bootup
[19:02] <fractal> ea: have you tried just pressing Esc?
[19:02] <fractal> :(
[19:02] <irregular> jatt:used sudo and it looks like I'm connect! many thanks comrade!
[19:02] <jatt> irregular: I don't use sudo but could be I configured something before
[19:02] <jatt> irregular: good to know! 😺
[19:03] <FlipBill> I don't hang out here regularly.  I'll be around for the next 3 hours.  If you understand how to do it from the CLI, then you'll probably work out the GUI issue yourself.
[19:04] <fractal> FlipBill: i do appreciate the offer, thank you.
[19:04] <fractal> not sure which direction i want to go yet at this point :(
[19:04] <ptah> somebody tell obama to bring back heat online mmo race game!
[19:05] <fractal> i try to avoid the CLI like it's trying to kill me... and it usually has, well not me particularly, but my installation
[19:06] <fractal> i need a good focusing agent before i touch the command line... like adderall or ritalin
[19:06] <fractal> otherwise i derp everything to smithereens
[19:06] <fractal> :(
[19:08] <FlipBill> fractal, whatever you like fractal.
[19:12] <Rohan_Kumar> genii: I partitioned my pendrive into two disks.
[19:13] <Rohan_Kumar> Now one mounts and other doesn't.
[19:14] <FlipBill> Rohan_Kumar, did you mkfs in both partitions?
[19:14] <loop> When's dinner?
[19:14] <Rohan_Kumar> FlipBill: Yes
[19:15] <Rohan_Kumar> I get this error : http://pastebin.ca/3667165
[19:16] <FlipBill> Can you just try mount /dev/sdb2 /mnt ?
[19:17] <Rohan_Kumar> FlipBill: Yes, doing it ...
[19:18] <Rohan_Kumar> FlipBill: http://pastebin.ca/3667167
[19:18] <Rohan_Kumar> getting this now..
[19:19] <FlipBill> Hmm.. how did you mkfs that drive?
[19:19] <rangergord> Hi. I'm trying to install a python library using pip. It fails cause it has a build step which, in Ubuntu 14.04, required python3-dev. I'm now on a brand-new 16.04, and if I try to apt-get install python3-dev, I get "The following packages have unmet dependencies: python3-dev : Depends: libpython3-dev (= 3.5.1-3) but it is not going to be installed. Depends: python3.5-dev (>= 3.5.1-2~) but it
[19:19] <rangergord> is not going to be installed. ". Should I be reporting a bug to the maintainers?
[19:19] <ctjctj_> Rohan_Kumar, what does blkid /dev/sb2 say?
[19:19] <guest-pN44kG> llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
[19:20] <rangergord> or is this something local
[19:20] <Rohan_Kumar> It just gives nothing
[19:21] <ctjctj_> Rohan_Kumar, try with sudo but that implies to me that the mkfs did not take place.  But I don't use MS filesystems so could be wrong
[19:21] <ctjctj_> Sorry, that should have been blkid /dev/sdb2
[19:21] <ctjctj_> Left out the "d" the first time
[19:21] <Rohan_Kumar> ctjctj_:a fsck on the disk gives : http://pastebin.ca/3667169
[19:22] <ctjctj_> I would expect that.  blkid will identify the UUID and filesystem type of some (most,all) block special devices.
[19:23] <FlipBill> There is apparent confusion about the type of FS in the partition.
[19:23] <FlipBill> fsck assumes ext2, earlier commands tried to operate as if it is exfat via FUSE.
[19:24] <FlipBill> What is your intention?  What type of FS do you want to have?
[19:24] <Rohan_Kumar> FlipBill: Initially when i bought it today it was exfat, then i formatted it to fat, then ext2, then partitioned my usb and two fat32 partitions
[19:24] <ctjctj_> Rohan_Kumar, what FlipBill is saying.  blkid might help us to know what the drive/partition thinks its filesystem is.
[19:24] <Pici> rangergord: can you pastebin the output of apt-cache policy libpython3-dev python3-dev python3.5-dev  please?
[19:25] <ctjctj_> Rohan_Kumar, partitioning a drive as "fat32" does not place a fat32 filesystem on that partition.  It just lets boot loaders know what to expect on that partition.
[19:25] <FlipBill> Rohan_Kumar, did you use a mkfs command of some kind?
[19:26] <ctjctj_> FlipBill, he reported that he did it on the full drive before he created the partition.
[19:26] <Rohan_Kumar> FlipBill: I tried mkfs.exfat earlier
[19:26] <Rohan_Kumar> like this: sudo mkfs.exfat -n "PENDRIVE"  /dev/sdb
[19:26] <FlipBill> ctjctj_, Ah yes, I see confirmend.
[19:27]  * Rohan_Kumar did it when it was not partitioned
[19:27] <FlipBill> Rohan_Kumar, that's your problem.
[19:27] <ctjctj_> Rohan_Kumar, did you "mkfs.vfat /dev/sdb1" or "mkfs.vfat /dev/sdb2"?
[19:27] <FlipBill> you formatted the drive extent, not the partition.
[19:27] <ctjctj_> FlipBill, I concur.
[19:27] <Rohan_Kumar> ctjctj_: Yes i did that after partitioning
[19:27] <ctjctj_> vfat could be fat
[19:28] <rangergord> Pici: sorry, I was away trying stuff. I fixed it, I had to install the latest Security/Recommended updates. apt-get update + upgrade showed no results, but that's because I had Security and Recommended unchecked in Software Updater.
[19:28] <FlipBill> Rohan_Kumar, it would likely have formatted it in such a way that the first partition is marked as occupying the entire drive.
[19:28] <FlipBill> That could get messy.
[19:28] <FlipBill> You need to start over and issue a mkfs for each partition inividually.
[19:28] <Rohan_Kumar> FlipBill: hmm
[19:29] <FlipBill> see the commands ctjctj_ gave you above.
[19:29] <alkisg> Rohan_Kumar: if you run mkfs /dev/sdb, you destroy the partition table, so there's no sdb1 or sdb2 anymore, you need to create a new partition table
[19:29] <Pici> rangergord: yeah, I had a feeling it was some sort of repository issue, glad you got it worked out.
[19:30] <FlipBill> alkisg, thaks, I neglected to mentioned that.
[19:30] <FlipBill> Start with fdisk, then do the two mkfs.vfat commands.
[19:30] <alkisg> :)
[19:31] <Rohan_Kumar> FlipBill: I did the fdisk part before..
[19:32] <alkisg> First fdisk, then mkfs /dev/sdb ==> it destroys the results of fdisk, it's like you didn't do it at all
[20:07] <gustavo_> blood strike
[20:07] <gustavo_> xcloudgames
[20:08] <gustavo_> oi
[20:08] <k1l> !ot
[20:08] <Krenair> I've got Ubuntu 14.04 running in VirtualBox, tried installing the guest additions. But after reboot, my user doesn't show on the login screen
[20:08] <Krenair> If I drop to interactive console I can log in as the user
[20:08] <Krenair> I've tried moving .Xauthority and .profile
[20:08] <Krenair> The only user showing on the login screen is the guest session
[20:09] <gustavo_> help-me please
[20:09] <Krenair> restarting lightdm
[20:09] <Krenair> also doesn't help
[20:09] <gustavo_> i`m kill
[20:09] <gustavo_> i am troller
[20:10] <otsoaunloco> How do I determine the format of an archive? It has no extension and I don't remember 7
[20:10] <otsoaunloco> I don't remember how it was compressed*
[20:10] <EriC^^> otsoaunloco: try "file /path/to/file"
[20:11] <genii> otsoaunloco: The command called "file" may be able to know. eg: file name-of-archive
[20:12] <otsoaunloco> Thanks! It works indeed
[20:16] <Kikko_958> Hi Styk
[20:32]  * ptah sees everyone idle
[20:33] <Bashing-om> ptah: ^^ Then all is well in the 'buntu world :)
[20:34] <ptah> heh
[20:36] <k1l> ptah: for regular chat we do have #ubuntu-offtopic . a silent technical support channel is a good sign :)
[20:37] <TurboKraken> !controller
[20:38] <TurboKraken> Anyone have a resource for usb/bluetooth controllers. I'm looking to for StealSeries Stratus in particular but any information is helpful. I am running Ubuntu 16.04.
[20:40] <ivona> #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet
[20:40] <ivona> #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet
[20:40] <ivona> #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet
[20:40] <ivona> #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet
[20:40] <dimensia_> hello
[20:40] -ARIADNA:#ubuntu- #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet
[20:40] -ARIADNA:#ubuntu- #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet #wrongplanet
[20:41] <dimensia_> what is wrong planet
[20:41] <DalekSec> dimensia_: Spam, just ignore it fornow.
[20:41] <dimensia_> alright
[20:45] <FManTropyx> is being on this channel why I get flooded by bots about that?
[20:46] <dax> they're doing it in a tonne of channels
[20:46] <k1l> FManTropyx: the kiddies do spam all big channels on this network.
[20:46] <dax> if it's private spam (not channel spam), umode +R tends to help (PMs from registered users only)
[20:47] <FManTropyx> tnx
[20:49] <spectro88> hi
[20:49] <spectro88> ?
[20:53] <Melioo> I wish linux was the first os i ever learned
[20:53] <Melioo> Cause then ibwouldnt have ever touched windows
[20:53] <Melioo> And companies wouldnt ask me of i knew how to SSH
[20:54] <Melioo> Lol
[20:54] <DArqueBishop> Melioo: it's never too late to learn.
[20:55] <Melioo> And i do
[20:55] <Melioo> But im ao adhd ots hard to remember everything I learn
[20:55] <Melioo> I memeorized dos like a champ
[20:55] <Melioo> Helped with bad routers from the 90s
[20:56] <Melioo> Lol
[21:10] <TurboKraken> Anyone have a resource for usb/bluetooth controllers. I'm looking to for StealSeries Stratus in particular but any information is helpful. I am running Ubuntu 16.04.
[21:13] <ptah> TurboKraken, nobody answered u yet?
[21:13] <ptah> this is second time
[21:13] <ptah> sorry idk
[21:15] <TurboKraken> ptah: Yeah, I was just double checking after the spammer came in here.
[21:15] <TurboKraken> ptah: Yeah, no one has answered.***
[21:15] <ptah> im using ubuntu 8.04, my youtube works, but facebook and instagram videos dont work
[21:15] <ptah> i have firefox14
[21:16] <ptah> what do i need?
[21:16] <Sebastien> why would you use a ubuntu THAT old
[21:16] <ptah> cause
[21:16] <ptah> there is a reason
[21:16] <bprompt> ptah:   we're listening
[21:16] <Sebastien> you will not get support from this. the date is: May 9, 2013
[21:17] <Sebastien> but you can still tell us what you tried, and where it didn't work
[21:17] <BluJay> Hi guys
[21:17] <ptah> i have a mini dell laptop
[21:17] <ptah> already had ubuntu here
[21:17] <ptah> trying to get it to work
[21:17] <holmser> if you want to use an out of daye version of linux might I suggest centos?
[21:17] <Sebastien> or puppylinux if it has anything to do with size
[21:17] <BluJay> If you don't arch is great
[21:18] <Ryad> hello
[21:18] <BluJay> Although it is a pain in the donkey to set up
[21:18] <bprompt> ptah:     if the browsers are too outdated, chances are, many or most sites won't work, that includes flash videos or other codecs types, since legacy code may not be there, or worth the hassle, depending on the feature
[21:18] <k1l> ptah: the oldest ubuntu still in support is 12.04. older than that is not supported and has massive security issues. if you have slow and old hardware look at Lubuntu
[21:18] <ptah> im in a mini laptop for fun
[21:18] <ptah> lol
[21:19] <Ryad> Im running ubuntu on a dell latitude d630.
[21:19] <ptah> most things work, sucks that linux doesnt support mmo games
[21:19] <ubone> ubuntu net install is best for low end hw
[21:19] <ptah> where are the mmo games?
[21:20] <ptah> :)
[21:20] <ptah> did any of you play mmo race games?
[21:21] <peppa> The flash issue in linux is annoying
[21:21] <k1l> that talk better suits into #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:21] <k1l> peppa: what flash issue?
[21:21] <ptah> ok
[21:22] <bugworm> I am using Ubuntu for many years, on many different machines now. And i love it. Now with a new batch of machines, i am running into issues with the rotation sensors. I already know that this sensors have no standards, and its most of the time a "specific" workaround for that. Is there any group of people trying to improve this situation ? Eg. making a graphical interface, that 1. detects if your sensor is supported in some way,
[21:22] <bugworm> 2. let you rotate the screen with a custom key command and 3. let you decide what to deactivate according to your screen rotation ? eg. Keyboard or Trackpad ?
[21:23] <peppa> It does not run on certain websites that require the newest version of flash.
[21:24] <peppa> I tried pepperflash
[21:24] <e-vent> Anyone able to help with a small bash script issue?
[21:24] <k1l> peppa: are you sure its not a malware tricking users into loading their malware software? because that is a known issue on a lot of warez sites
[21:24] <MonkeyDust> e-vent  there's also #bash
[21:24] <e-vent> Why does this work: "if [ Something ] || [ Somethingelse ]" but if [ Something || Somethingelse ] doesn't.
[21:25] <e-vent> The former triggers on any content
[21:25] <e-vent> latter even*
[21:25] <peppa> The sit I am specifically having an issue with is xfinity tv so I don't think so
[21:25] <peppa> site*
[21:26] <\9> e-vent: because [ is actually a program
[21:26] <\9> e-vent: and || is a bash language construct
[21:26] <e-vent> What is the latter actually doing?
[21:26] <e-vent> Logically?
[21:27] <\9> "[ Something" or "Somethingelse ]"
[21:27] <\9> i think you can use double brackets [[]] to get around this?
[21:27] <\9> since it's an actual language construct unlike [
[21:28] <\9> and when i say it's a program, there literally is a /usr/bin/[
[21:28] <k1l> peppa: it works in chrome. so you need to tell them to unlock the regular linux flash version
[21:28] <e-vent> I'd search for it myself
[21:28] <e-vent> but I literally have no idea what to google
[21:29] <e-vent> Ok I see its like test?
[21:29] <e-vent> But surely that logically still would do what I expect
[21:29] <\9> http://serverfault.com/questions/52034/what-is-the-difference-between-double-and-single-square-brackets-in-bash
[21:30] <peppa> running chromium but I will download latest chrome and try I guess. thx
[21:30] <e-vent> I get that [ is a program
[21:30] <\9> well the thing is that if you use [, the || takes lesser precedence over the brackets
[21:30] <\9> [ supports -o for a logical or
[21:31] <e-vent> but if I say to test, IS "FOO" "BAR" OR "BAR1"
[21:31] <e-vent> how is it saying yes?
[21:32] <\9> e-vent: i can't tell since i don't know your use case
[21:34] <bprompt> e-vent:   one may note, there's a #bash  :)
[21:34] <e-vent> Yeah
[21:34] <e-vent> I'll ask em
[21:34] <e-vent> \9, in effect
[21:34] <e-vent> I am just comparing two strings
[21:35] <e-vent> So literally like FOO and BAR OR BAR1
[21:35] <bprompt> e-vent:     I do js, and the || would on that case, seems to do a logical check, to default to the latter, like js would, but in bash, as \9  said, I think you need to use the -o for that in the brackets
[21:35] <\9> we figured as much but the question is why is it doing that
[21:36] <e-vent> I fixed it by having two sets of brackets and conditions with the OR between em
[21:36] <e-vent> but I#m asking #bash now
[21:42] <peppa> tried chrome. does not work. thx for the suggestion though.
[21:46] <bprompt> peppa:   got url, so we can check?
[21:53] <peppa> xfinitytv.comcast.net
[21:53] <e-vent> Unrelated
[21:54] <e-vent> Will PPP automatically reconnect via the modem if the line goes down and back up
[21:54] <e-vent> or do I need to restart the machine / service?
[21:55] <peppa> oddly enough one show works. but everything else does not. technology throws me for a loop sometimes. thx for the help tho.
[21:57] <Asher128> Hi guys! Do you know the advantage of MooseFS over LizardFS?
[22:06] <Kikko_958> good bye
[22:10] <a2si> test
[22:18] <curlyears> is we is or is we ain't?
[22:20] <geirha> curlyears: Is this somehow related to the Ubuntu operating system?
[22:20] <curlyears> geirha:  just saying hello...
[22:20] <ken_> how to remove libreoffice
[22:21] <curlyears> ken_  you can probably remove ity trhough the Ubuntu Software Center
[22:21] <ken_> is there a command
[22:22] <ken_> beacause that is the long way
[22:22] <k1l> ken_: sudo apt remove libreoffice
[22:22] <ken_> thanks
[22:23] <zerowaitstate> after that you may have to do "sudo apt autoremove" because libreoffice may be a metapackage
[22:24] <geirha> an it might remove more than you bargained for
[22:24] <ken_> it did not work
[22:24] <k1l> ken_: what was the output?
[22:24] <k1l> ken_: put it into paste.ubuntu.com and show the url here
[22:26] <ken_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/21203334/
[22:26] <k1l> ken_: missing an "e" at the end
[22:26] <zerowaitstate> lol, forgot the "e" at the end
[22:27] <k1l> ken_: use the tab key to complete the package names
[22:28] <ken_> how to remove libreoffice
[22:28] <k1l> ken_: its still the same answer. just make sure you dont make a typo
[22:28] <ken_> yes
[22:32] <ken_> how to remove libreoffice
[22:32] <curlyears> ken_:  it's been explained to you, d00d.
 ken_: sudo apt remove libreoffice
[22:33] <vook> ken_: try again. You should always try more than once
[22:36] <ken_> sudo] password for ken:
[22:36] <ken_> Reading package lists... Done
[22:36] <ken_> Building dependency tree
[22:36] <ken_> Reading state information... Done
[22:36] <ken_> Package 'libreoffice' is not installed, so not removed
[22:36] <ken_> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[22:37] <ken_> Package 'libreoffice' is not installed, so not removed
[22:37] <ken_> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[22:37] <ken_> ken@ken-Presario-CQ57-Notebook-PC:~$ sudo apt remove libreoffice
[22:37] <ken_> Reading package lists... Done
[22:37] <ken_> Building dependency tree
[22:37] <ken_> Reading state information... Done
[22:37] <packetswitcher> unrelated question: is there a place where I can learn IRC.. i'm kinda new and i'm lost. video tutorials would be better if you know any
[22:38] <curlyears> I am unaware of any.  Just read the docs, it is pretty straight forward unless you are planning to run your own server./
[22:38] <k1l> ken_: remove "libreoffice-core" too
[22:38] <ken_> ken@ken-Presario-CQ57-Notebook-PC:~$ sudo apt remove libreoffice
[22:38] <ken_> Reading package lists... Done
[22:38] <ken_> Building dependency tree
[22:38] <ken_> Reading state information... Done
[22:38] <ken_> Package 'libreoffice' is not installed, so not removed
[22:38] <ken_> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[22:38] <k1l> ken_: stop pasting the same output over and over again
[22:39] <curlyears> K1l:  did you see the URL I piosted here describing the weird problems I was having?
[22:40] <packetswitcher> the docs are confusing for me, that's why i wanted video tutorials.. i've joined the channel here a few days ago and it's great.. but I feel like the most stupid one in the room..
[22:40] <k1l> no
[22:41] <k1l> packetswitcher: what do you need to know?
[22:42] <curlyears> k1l:  it turns out the problem I was having was due to, er "inconsistencies" in the code  of the "Hybrid EUFI" Award BIOS on this motherboard.  No wonder you guys were unable to successfully debug it with me.  The guy who wrote the article I found spent a very long time debugging and analyzing the probllem.
[22:42] <packetswitcher> this is the (unknown unknown) problem.. i need to know everything from zero.. i don't wanna bug you here since it's not related but I don't know where to start
[22:43] <curlyears> it turns out that basicly, while it IS possible to use > 2TB drives with this motherboard, it is quite trickty and probably not worth the effort.  I probably ought to get a different motherboard
[22:44] <k1l> packetswitcher: well, you could join #ubuntu-offtopic to chat and look here if you can help some people or ask if you need help. learning by doing. irc is not that difficult :)
[22:44] <ken_> why is isp said linux is virus
[22:44] <squinty> packetswitcher, tried youtube?  using "xchat tutorial" as search terms returns quite a number of hits.
[22:44] <k1l> ken_: this is the technical ubuntu support.
[22:45] <ken_> ok
[22:45] <alesan> how can I tell ubuntu to only use 8.8.8.8 as DNS and not to use an internal one or one provided by DHCP? command line please
[22:45] <alesan> meaning, not through GUI packages that depend on the fact one has ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu etc
[22:46] <alesan> I'd assume there is such setting in the configuration files
[22:46] <curlyears> http://www.rodsbooks.com/gb-hybrid-efi/   <  k1l:  if you're interested, there isd a link tyo the article.  It'd be interesting to hear your take on it.
[22:47] <k1l> curlyears: well, i am not too much into the uefi stuff. but often manufacturers fix some things with bios updates.
[22:48] <CodeMouse92> On Ubuntu 16.04, using the default Nautilus file browser. When I right-click a file and go to "open with...", the submenu jumps back and forth. (Dual monitors, but never had this before today)
[22:48] <curlyears> K1l:  yeah, well, the most recent update for this BIOS is dated 2013.  :)
[22:48] <curlyears> :(
[22:48] <bulle> now when 16.04.1 is released, shouldnt i see an upgrade alternative on a 14.04 lts machine ?
[22:49] <k1l> !ltsupgrade | bulle
[22:49] <bulle> k1l: ah, thanks, just have to wait a bit longer then.
[22:49] <curlyears> k1l:  do you think it is worth doing a !ltsupgrade if one has recently installed the earlier 16.04?
[22:50] <k1l> curlyears: if you installed the 16.04 you will get 16.04.1 anyway.
[22:51] <curlyears> K1l:   ah, OK.  I wasn't quite clear on that point.
[22:54] <Ntemis> help me remove some annoying ppa after upgrade to xenial please
[22:54] <Ben64> !ppa-purge | Ntemis
[22:55] <Ntemis> doesnt work
[22:55] <bulle> IDW!
[22:55] <Ntemis> W: The repository 'http://ppa.launchpad.net/pidgin-developers/ppa/ubuntu xenial Release' does not have a Release file.
[22:55] <Ntemis> E: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/pidgin-developers/ppa/ubuntu/dists/xenial/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found
[22:56] <Ntemis> ppa purge doesnt work
[22:56] <Ben64> elaborate
[22:56] <Ntemis> but shouldnt i start clean after upgrade
[22:56] <Ntemis> Ben64: http://pastebin.com/9CACzK3d
[22:57] <k1l> Ntemis: did you reactivated it after the ubuntu upgrade?
[22:57] <Ntemis> nope
[22:57] <Ntemis> it was always there
[22:57] <Ntemis> but shouldnt i start clean after upgrade
[22:58] <k1l> please run "grep ^ /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | nc termbin.com 9999" in terminal and show the output here
[22:58] <Bashing-om> Ntemis: That PPA does not support xenial : http://ppa.launchpad.net/pidgin-developers/ppa/ubuntu/dists .
[22:58] <Ntemis> aha
[22:58] <Ntemis> but shouldnt i start clean after upgrade
[22:58] <Ntemis> again
[22:58] <n1md4> hi.   i have network manager set such that it's only dhcp for IP, and have manually set dns.  but the dns setting appears to be ignored - tested against dnsleak test.  it has an entry for localhost in resolv.conf, but by manually editing it, with the dns server i have set in settings, only then does it work.
[22:58] <n1md4> any ideas there?
[22:58] <k1l> Ntemis: we need to get some facts, so please show the outputurl
[22:59] <Ntemis> k1l: http://termbin.com/l5k2
[22:59] <bulle>  http://termbin.com/l5k2
[23:00] <k1l> Ntemis: well, you activated that ppa again. it was for sure deactivated after the upgrade.
[23:00] <Ntemis> can anyone give me a clean /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ so i can move on with my life?
[23:00] <Ntemis> i did? O.o
[23:00] <owen1> how to install adobe-flashplugin from the terminal? (ubuntu 15.10)
[23:01] <k1l> Ntemis: you can just remove the /etc/apt/sources.list.d/pidgin-ppa.list files
[23:02] <Ntemis> thanks k1l
[23:02] <k1l> Ntemis: or you should contact the evolve os support. since that PPA make it a none ubuntu anymore
[23:02] <Intee> Morning all.
[23:02] <owen1> how to add flash to chromium-browser but using the terminal?
[23:03] <Ntemis> lovely k1l sudo rm -rf /etc/apt/sources.list.d/pidgin-ppa* fixed it thanks
[23:03] <Bashing-om> owen1: Try : ' sudo apt install flashplugin-installer ' .
[23:04] <Intee> Where abouts can a man get the 64 bit version of liblua5.2 from?
[23:04] <owen1> Bashing-om: thanks!
[23:04] <Bashing-om> owen1: Does not chromium use peper flash rather than Adobie ?
[23:04] <owen1> i have no idea
[23:04] <owen1> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Chromium/Getting-Partner-Flash
[23:04] <k1l> Bashing-om: chrome does
[23:05] <genii> !info liblua5.2-0
[23:05] <genii> hm
[23:05] <Intee> Thats an awesome bot!
[23:06] <Intee> I have installed liblua5.2 and -dev and they both installed without errors (As far as I know) but system still can't find it apparently.
[23:07] <owen1> k1l: so i should use this?
[23:08] <k1l> you could use it with chromium. but the standard is the flashplugin installer
[23:09] <owen1> k1l: how do i install flashplugin installer from the terminal?
[23:10] <rwsoft1> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[23:13] <owen1> rwsoft1: thanks
[23:18] <rwsoft1> owen1: no worries ;)
[23:27] <R13ose> My desktop for KDE in Ubuntu is all black and this is not the image I picked for some reason. How do I fix this?
[23:43] <devan> Hey all!
[23:44] <weblwabl> I have an .sh file i am trying to change the permissions on, chmod -x still wont allow me to execute the file
[23:44] <weblwabl> was wondering what the issue may be
[23:44] <orlock> weblwabl: Running it with the correct part? thats the error?
[23:44] <YankDownUnder> weblwabl: sudo chmod +x filename.sh ?
[23:44] <Ben64> weblwabl: chmod +x, not -x
[23:44] <weblwabl> shit lol
[23:44] <weblwabl> thank you
[23:48] <R13ose> any thoughts on my question?
[23:49] <YankDownUnder> R13ose: Black? No image whatsoever?
[23:49] <R13ose> YankDownUnder: yes Black, and no image
[23:50] <YankDownUnder> R13ose: Have you restarted Plasma? As well - since I'm not familiar with what you're using, what version of Ubuntu and what version of Plasma/KDE are you using?
[23:52] <R13ose> YankDownUnder: I rebooted the machine and I got a black desktop.  I am using Ubuntu 16.04 and KDE Plasma Version: 5.6.5
[23:52] <YankDownUnder> R13ose: Right oh...and what happens when you attempt to change the desktop wallpaper to something else...?
[23:53] <R13ose> YankDownUnder: oh, this was a black background for some reason.  It is better now.  Thanks.
[23:54] <YankDownUnder> R13ose: Sometimes Plasma "sticks" or gets "stuck" as it were...hmm...
[23:54] <R13ose> YankDownUnder: how to fix that?
[23:56] <YankDownUnder> R13ose: For *me*, what I ended up doing was blowing out all of the "plasma" related "crap" in my ~./config and ~./local/share and ~./kde directories - upgrading Plasma via "backports" PPA's and re-configuring my entire KDE/Plasma desktop as per my liking...but again, that was *my* resolution to the issue.
[23:58] <R13ose> YankDownUnder: since I am not  on 5.7.2, how do I upgrade to that?
[23:59] <YankDownUnder> R13ose: I'm on 5.6.5 - stable...I'll wait for the 5.7.2 stuff...