[08:35] <valorie> !force-downgrade
[08:51] <spice> hello, is there an anyone with expertise about?
[08:51] <soee> !ask | spice
[08:52] <spice> lol fair enough. I've just installed the latest version of kubuntu after switching from KDE neon, is there anyway to upgrade kubuntu to the latest KDE 5.7 desktop enviroment?
[08:53] <soee> spice: not yet, there are few things that needs to be fixed before it lands in backports ppa
[08:54] <soee> almost all packages are ready but we don't have ETA for putting them into backports
[08:54] <soee> when it lands there it will contain Plasma 5.7.x and t 5.6
[08:55] <soee> *and Qt 5.6
[08:57] <spice> Awesome thanks for the answer, that brings me to my second question on why i switched, i installed the proprietary nvidia driver and it borked the grub menu on kde neon, and after a headache and finally succumbing to a full reinstall it did not fix the grub menu, hence the migration to kubuntu. Whats the best way to install proprietary nvidia drive
[08:57] <spice> r so the same doesn't happen with kubuntu?
[08:59] <spice> If you could point me to an up to date tutorial that would be great
[09:00] <soee> spice: it never broke GRUB for me wither on Kubuntu or Neon
[09:00] <soee> spice: add this ppa https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[09:00] <soee> and install driver from command line: sudo apt install nvidia-xxx
[09:00] <soee> where xxx is driver version you want
[09:02] <spice> well, it broke the splash for the crypt screen so i could not enter the password. Once i applied the fix, every time i booted it i was greeted by the grub minimal bash line and no way to enter the OS
[09:02] <soee> oh i did not used encryption
[09:04] <spice> yes thats how i did it before, hopefully kubuntu is a bit more stable in this area lol, i nearly smashed my keyboard trying to fix it yesterday
[09:06] <spice> There was a work around by entering the password via terminal by booting via debug mode (or whatever its called) but it was a nuisance. Tried fixing it via a terminal on a live usb, but it was just a nightmare for an amateur like me
[09:07] <JohnDroid> dev should run
[09:08] <JohnDroid> devs should use full disk encryption just to see the hassel user get when upgrading distro
[10:05] <spice> Ok, i'm back after installing the nvidia drivers. Same issue with encryption splash on kubuntu too. So  way to go is install kubuntu > install nvidia drivers > reinstall grub > encrypt hard drive after????
[10:10] <spice> does anyone know of good encryption software?
[10:21] <spice> also steam doesnt work on kubunutu for some reason
[10:27] <spice> and i cant install a vpn using openvpn, it want let me add the config file in the gui -.-
[10:59] <olegg> Hi Ninjas any one femiliar with jmeter, and could assist with some advice?
[11:11] <soee> olegg: what is it ?
[11:21] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[11:31] <user|85102> how to get games
[11:33] <soee> huh?
[11:33] <soee> what game exectly ?
[11:53] <olegg> Hi soee, im looking for a way that we can use parameter in jmeter request body, for example I want read json from file and send POST with that body, in addition I want a variable ${__time(dd/MM/yyyy,)} to put in that json, is there a way to do it?
[11:54] <soee> olegg: but this is Kubuntu support channel on some extra apps :)
[11:54] <soee> maube better would be to ask on #kde or #ubuntu
[12:22] <olegg> soee ok thnx :)
[13:34] <yotux> is there a method to assign default apps to KDE
[13:35] <yotux> example thunderbird has a weblink and does not know howto open said link.
[13:36] <mparillo> System Settings > Applications > Default Applications?
[13:37] <Dragnslcr> Thunderbird isn't a KDE program, so it might not follow KDE's default application
[13:37] <mparillo> But since Thunderbird is not a KDE app, that might not work.
[13:37] <mparillo> Great comment Dragnslcr
[13:37] <Dragnslcr> If it doesn't, you should be able to set it in Thunderbird's settings
[13:38] <BluesKaj> yotux, t-bird is gtk, but that might work in default apps as mparillo suggested
[13:41] <yotux> Thanks for the info, it seems to handle IMAP connections faster than Kmail only reason I have been using it
[14:47] <coryfernandez> I have screen flickering / screen not refreshing problem on Kubuntu 16.04.
[14:48] <coryfernandez> I dual boot between debian stretch and kubuntu 16.04. When in kubuntu kde, the screen flickers badly. does not refresh.
[14:48] <coryfernandez> However, I have the same kde on debian, but there is no problem. Also, on kubuntu, if I use cinnamon, I don't have this issue.
[14:48] <coryfernandez> Can someone please help? TIA.
[14:49] <coryfernandez> (display device is amd radeon )
[15:03] <levi_> test test 123
[15:54] <ThiagoHDF> Hi guys
[15:54] <ThiagoHDF> I need some help from you kde experts
[15:55] <soee> !ask | ThiagoHDF
[15:59] <ThiagoHDF> I'm using Ubuntu 15.10. I've put the backport line to sources then I've made an apdate and upgrade and then I've installed the plasma desktop. I had no problems and now, I can see my Ubunto starting up as "Kubunto". When it gets on lightdm everything seems ok. But when I try to make the logon nothing happens. And I don't know how to start manually
[15:59] <ThiagoHDF> the plasma desktop
[16:06] <cucujoidea> Hello, on my Kubuntu 16.04, plasma-discover starts for updates, plasma-discover-updater remains unused by automatic updates. Therefore, the changelog of the updates is invisible. http://askubuntu.com/questions/788924/update-message-in-kubuntu-16-04
[16:09] <soee> ThiagoHDF: you should not use 15.10
[16:09] <soee> it is not supported anymore, you should update to 16.10
[16:09] <soee> *16.04
[16:11] <ThiagoHDF> ok
[16:11] <ThiagoHDF> doing this right now
[16:13] <machine_> hi
[16:14] <yotux> ThiagoHDF: Just so you know LTS are supported for 5 yrs now the 6 mon non LTS are only supported for 9 mons
[16:15] <ThiagoHDF> I'm picking LTS
[16:20] <yotux> okay
[17:12] <lucidguy> How is Kubuntu LTS only three year support when the apt sources are the same servers as Ubuntu which is 5 years?
[17:16] <yotux> I now LTS used to be supported for Desktop user for 3 yrs I thought that changed as of 12.04
[17:19] <mparillo> Yes, almost all the desktop flavours reduced LTS from five to three years. I am not sure when, but as a practical matter, the Plasma 4 desktop gets very few (if any) updates any more.
[17:21] <lucidguy> According to this, server and workstations are 5 years.  http://www.ubuntu.com/info/release-end-of-life
[17:23] <yotux> It also states that not all flavors support this policy I will try and see if I can find K council decsion to change if it did.
[17:25] <yotux> here is a release notice: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2016-July/000209.html
[17:26] <yotux> Since Kubuntu is not Ubuntu IE KDE flavor it doesn't have the same policy in this case it appears.
[17:27] <yotux> Just a little history I think back in 8.04 Kubuntu did not release an LTS due to KDE migration
[17:27] <lucidguy> yotux: Understood, but since all of these flavors share the same packages/software via the apt source/servers how can they only be three years?  I can understand the kubuntu-desktop package only making it to 3 years.
[17:28] <mparillo> Actually most KDE updates are delivered via the backports PPA
[17:29] <lucidguy> For example, if I install Ubuntu Desktop OS, then install the kubuntu-desktop package, is it not supported for 5 years?
[17:30] <yotux> what is may happen is lets say KDE 5.5 arrives and KDE 4 is still in repos
[17:31] <yotux> KDE 4 will not be supported or maintained by Kubuntu team because everything in KDE maybe be ported to KDE 5
[17:32] <yotux> Ubuntu also is based in gtk if I recall and KDE is more qt / plasma I think so several different dependencies
[17:35] <yotux> also the package you referred to "kubuntu-desktop" installs KDE library's on top of Ubuntu so you have both window managers you can run from.  key chain wise I am not sure which one will be dominate
[19:09] <bgreport> hello. which project in launchpad should i file a bug to about an application not being visible in the application menu (despite being in /usr/share/applications, and being visible in gnome/unity)? i reported it to kubuntu-meta a couple weeks ago with no love
[19:09] <bgreport> and, i have a two other bugs to report, and no idea where to report them. a) wacom tablet doesn't work properly in kubuntu if the mouse is right handed; b) audio doesn't preserve left/right balance between reboots
[19:09] <leumas> Please whats the password to join the Dojo III meeting
[19:09] <leumas> ?
[19:10] <leumas> sick_rimmit: hi
[19:13] <leumas> *is so sad
[19:14] <acheronuk> http://kubuntu.blindsidenetworks.net/kubuntu/ - password is welcome
[19:14] <acheronuk> leumas: but it's nearly done now I think
[19:15] <acheronuk> started 18:00 UTC
[19:15] <leumas> acheronuk: :(
[19:15] <leumas> thanx
[19:16] <acheronuk> talk to us in #kubuntu-devel if you want to get involved
[19:17] <acheronuk> leumas: the dojo is not the only way
[19:26] <leumas> acheronuk: sure, i just felt in Dojo there will be a structured learning process
[19:27] <leumas> Anyways, i will watch out for the next one
[19:27] <leumas> I am already in the #kununtu-devel channel
[19:28] <acheronuk> had technical problems today, so not too structured!
[21:31] <JamesHenry> Hi ppl. I'm using Ubuntu 16.04.1 and I've installed Kubuntu Desktop using Backport sources. Kde is working fine when I start a raw X as root and run startkde as root. But I can't make it work when I call startx. I use lightdm as manager and it's not calling KDE neither Gnome anymore. Can you guys give me some light on it?
[21:33] <genii> It's doubtful that you will get much help to run your Kubuntu system as root, since all the *buntu are purposely designed with not doing that in mind.
[21:36] <JamesHenry> Yeah, i know. But I can't run KDE with my user. It says It couldn't open DBUS
[21:36] <rattking> JamesHenry: the display managers like lighdm use /usr/share/xsessions/plasma.desktop to call startkde
[21:39] <JamesHenry> rattking: yeah, but how is it configured in lightdm?
[21:41] <rattking> I am not sure, I thought it just read in the .desktop files in that location
[21:46] <JamesHenry> rattking: I have many *.desktop in this directory. I don't know how is called by lightdm or even startx. I can't find out where it is set
[21:46] <rattking> startx wont be using that.. I think to auto start kde with startx you should put exec startkde in ~/.xinitrc
[21:48] <rattking> is there anything in ~/.xsession-errors about your dbus problem?
[21:50] <rattking> ony of my old systems has in /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf 'user-session=plasma.desktop' but thats using sddm now
[21:51] <JamesHenry> i have this line in .xsession-errors: Unable to create /home/peo_tdaud/.dbus/session-bus
[21:52] <rattking> ok thats what I was wondering about since you were doing things as root permissions may have gotten messed up
[21:53] <rattking> make sure those .dbus and .dbus/session-bus are owned by your user
[22:01] <JamesHenry> rattking: You were right. It was owned by "root"
[22:01] <rattking> JamesHenry: is lightdm starting kde correctly now?
[22:02] <JamesHenry> Not yet, but know I can start KDE using startkde as a normal user, I don't need root anymore
[22:04] <rattking> it might be worth looking for other things owned by root and chowning them back 'find ~/ -user root'
[22:05] <rattking> gtg good luck with the lightdm problem.. I switched to sddm a few releases ago as I think thats the default for new installs
[22:06] <JamesHenry> yeah i'm doing this
[22:06] <JamesHenry> thank you very much
[22:06] <rattking> NP