[00:45] <qengho> Hi hi hi.
[05:08] <hikiko> hi
[05:15]  * qengho pounces on hikiko.
[05:15] <qengho> Finally! I've been *so lonely*.
[05:15] <hikiko> Hi qengho !
[05:51] <pitti> Good morning
[06:51] <seb128> good morning desktopers
[06:52] <didrocks> re seb128
[06:52] <seb128> re didrocks :-)
[06:52] <seb128> just got my coffee and done with email backlog, can start looking at what I should put on my plate for today ;-)
[06:54] <flocculant> seb128: bacon and eggs
[08:02] <Laney> yoooooooooooo
[08:03] <willcooke> morning all
[08:03] <TheMuso> Hey Laney, willcooke.
[08:03] <didrocks> hey Laney, willcooke, TheMuso
[08:03] <seb128> hey Laney willcooke TheMuso
[08:06] <Laney> what's up
[08:07] <davmor2> Oh Laney you so street
[08:10] <Laney> west side is the best side
[08:12] <pitti> hey Laney!
[08:12] <pitti> ça va seb128
[08:12] <davmor2> Laney: Wales is no the best side, It's nice don't get me wrong but not best ;)
[08:12] <pitti> hello davmor2 and willcooke, how are you?
[08:13] <davmor2> pitti: 'ow do chap? I'm good thanks netboot testing today my favourite \o/
[08:14] <pitti> davmor2: hah, you have strange pleasures :)
[08:15] <seb128> pitti, salut, ça va bien ?
[08:16] <pitti> seb128: oui, et toi ?
[08:16] <seb128> très bien merci !
[08:17] <davmor2> pitti: Oh sorry I seemed to be missing the <sarcasm></sarcasm> tag I do that I assume people see text from me and read it in my sarcastic tone by default ;)
[08:18] <pitti> davmor2: honestly, I actually do like to test netboot -- it feels a bit magic :)
[08:18] <pitti> "here's a completely blank machine which boots ubuntu out of thin air"
[08:18] <pitti> well, thin air and some really thin copper lines, close enough :)
[08:18] <davmor2> pitti: for me it is the time it takes that drive me to distraction other than that it is fine :)
[08:19] <pitti> admittedly I usually test with a VM and use my laptop as a proxy (apt-cacher-ng), then it's really fast
[08:20] <davmor2> pitti: yeah see I can't do that as I need to test that it connects to the servers each time :)
[08:20] <pitti> davmor2: actually, can we automate the actual install with preseed?
[08:20] <pitti> there's little reason why netboot tests can't be fully automated as an autopkgtest of d-i
[08:20] <pitti> nested qemu works well enough these days
[08:21] <davmor2> pitti: true but hey for now I'm it
[08:22] <davmor2> willcooke: should there be a unity8 option for yakkety on netboot by the way?
[08:23] <willcooke> davmor2, no
[08:24] <willcooke> at least, not yet
[09:11] <andyrock> morning
[09:11] <willcooke> hey andyrock
[09:19] <seb128> hey andyrock
[10:38] <Sweet5hark1> heh, sooo, researching some stuff on precise I found I could crash the gdb that the crash reporter called, causing a new crash reporter that ... can be used to crash a gdb again and so on.
[10:55] <willcooke> :)
[11:01] <pitti> tedg: Trevinho included the bamf merge in a different landing (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bamf/0.5.3~bzr0+16.10.20160726.1-0ubuntu1), so can you please remove it from the mega-ticket?
[12:36] <ximion> Laney: you want libarchive >= 3.1.9 for asgen to work
[12:36] <ximion> (but that was an alpha release, so 3.2 will do :) )
[13:05] <tedg> pitti: Ah, okay. We need an indicator-network fix and unity7 to land as well.
[13:14] <Laney> HEISENBERGGGGGGGGGGG
[13:14]  * Laney just watched the last episode
[13:14] <Laney> ximion: yeh, I'm going to backport it
[13:15] <pitti> Laney: ooh! I really liked Breaking Bad
[13:15]  * Laney hears the archers theme tune
[13:15] <Laney> pitti: yeah, me too!
[13:15] <Laney> although I'm not sure if I'm on his side any more :-)
[13:16] <pitti> Laney: I think that was the point :)
[13:16] <Laney> indeed
[13:16] <pitti> the great thing was that you cannot really pinpoint when he stops being the pity underdog/likable person and becomes the monster cartell boss
[13:16] <Laney> last time I was at climbing there were 3 people with Heisenberg t-shirts at the same time
[13:22] <Laney> The central theme of "Ozymandias" is contrasting the inevitable decline of all leaders and of the empires they build with their pretensions to greatness
[13:22] <Laney> ha
[13:27] <ximion> Laney: I will probably do the same for Debian
[13:27] <ximion> the change I wanted for libarchive was in Git master for about three years - libarchive releases slowly
[13:28] <ximion> Breaking Bad was awesome!
[14:31] <seb128> tedg, hey, so about inkscape, menus works for me....
[14:32] <tedg> seb128: Yeah, what version of snapd do you have?
[14:32] <seb128> current xenial
[14:32] <seb128> so 2.0.10
[14:32] <seb128> you?
[14:32] <tedg> Hmm, was thinking that was the issue.
[14:32] <tedg> Yeah, current xenial here too.
[14:33] <seb128> did you install --devmode or not?
[14:33] <tedg> seb128: No, not --devmode, but you said it worked both ways for you, right?
[14:33] <seb128> yes
[14:33] <seb128> just curious if it works in devmode for you
[14:33] <seb128> but yeah, works in devmode or confined here
[14:33] <seb128> with lim or not
[14:34] <seb128> do you get any error if you start if from a command line?
[14:34] <seb128> or in syslog, maybe apparmor denies?
[14:35] <tedg> seb128: Hmm, works in devmode
[14:35] <seb128> "good"
[14:35] <seb128> dpkg -l | grep snapd?
[14:35] <tedg> Heh
[14:35] <seb128> did you restart your machine since you upgraded?
[14:35] <tedg> Yeah, restarted this morning.
[14:36] <tedg> Yup it is 2.0.10
[14:37] <seb128> hum
[14:37] <seb128> dmesg | DEN
[14:37] <seb128> ?
[14:37] <seb128> it apparently tries to use gnome-vfs and get denied
[14:38] <seb128> unsure if that's worth fixing, it's time to move away from gnome-vfs :p
[14:38] <seb128> nothing to do with the menu though
[14:39] <tedg> Sure, next release of Inkscape drops GTK2. This release is aimed to be the last there.
[14:41] <seb128> k
[14:41] <seb128> so, DENIES?
[14:41] <seb128> in confined mode
[14:41] <seb128> well if you try confined before those are probably still in the log
[14:52] <seb128> andyrock, thanks for fixing that esc-clos-dialog issue :-)
[14:52] <seb128> tedg, no denies then?
[14:52] <andyrock> np :D
[14:52] <seb128> andyrock, if somebody added that code though that was probably for a reason, are you sure it's safe to delete it?
[14:53] <andyrock> pretty sure Trevinho tought it was a good idea
[14:53] <andyrock> :)
[14:53] <andyrock> but it's not
[14:53] <andyrock> seb128: I cannot see a design reason on why doing that
[14:54] <tedg> seb128: Standup, just a sec
[14:54] <seb128> tedg, no worry, sorry for the nagging, I was unsure if you saw my message since I didn't mention your name
[14:54] <seb128> andyrock,       SessionView: only use the Escape key event if a button is key-focused
[14:54] <seb128> is the commit it was added
[14:54] <seb128> so yeah, let's see what Marco says
[14:58] <andyrock> seb128: he will disagree and we'll force him to approve it :D
[14:58] <seb128> lol
[14:58] <seb128> yeah we will!
[15:25] <tedg> seb128: Do you have the dbus-user-bus stuff installed?
[15:26] <tedg> seb128: I'm getting denials on /run/user/1001/bus
[15:26] <tedg> Thinking it can't talk to DBus and thus export the menus.
[15:27] <seb128> oh
[15:27] <seb128> right, sorry
[15:28] <seb128> tedg, can you apply that patch http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~apparmor-dev/apparmor/master/revision/3492 to /etc/apparmor.d/abstractions/dbus-session-strict and 'sudo invoke-rc.d apparmor reload"
[15:30] <tyhicks> seb128, tedg: FYI, I included that patch in apparmor 2.10.95-4ubuntu2 (landed in yakkety)
[15:30] <tedg> tyhicks: Are you planning to SRU?
[15:30] <tyhicks> tedg: it is needed in xenial?
[15:31] <seb128> tyhicks, thanks for that :-)
[15:31] <tedg> tyhicks: Not sure, it means if you have the user bus config installed snaps don't work. The user bus stuff isn't that common, but will likely become more so depending on how systemd user sessions go.
[15:32] <tyhicks> tedg: I can include it in the apparmor SRU that I'm preparing now
[15:32] <tyhicks> shouldn't hurt anything
[15:32] <seb128> tedg, let me know if that fixes it for you
[15:32] <tedg> seb128: Yup, it does!
[15:33] <tedg> tyhicks: Cool, thanks!
[15:33] <seb128> tedg, great, mystery solved!
[15:35] <seb128> tedg, other small issue, the Icon used in the .desktop doesn't exist, you probably want to copy the inkscape one in your setup/gui/icon.svg
[15:45] <Trevinho> seb128, andyrock: I remember it was discussed at the time with John... So first escape press would have done that
[15:46] <andyrock> mmm Trevinho but why? what's the point? :)
[15:46] <seb128> hey Trevinho, stop doing IRC on vac days! ;-)
[15:46] <Trevinho> Right...
[15:46]  * Trevinho hides
[15:47] <seb128> Trevinho, hope you are having a fun day at the sea ;-)
[16:05] <tedg> seb128: Ah, oops
[16:05] <tedg> seb128: Can I symlink that?
[16:05] <seb128> tedg, good question, no idea, try and tell me :-)
[16:12] <tedg> seb128: Seems to, rebuilding on LP
[16:12] <seb128> cool
[16:12] <tedg> seb128: Also sent a mail to inkscape-devel to get some feedback.
[16:13] <seb128> tedg, great, thanks!
[17:18] <Laney> night night!
[17:19] <willcooke> night Laney
[18:29] <willcooke> night all