[01:50] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[01:51] <OerHeks> heyyyyyyyy :-)
[01:51] <OerHeks> You fell out of bed, or just got home
[01:53] <lotuspsychje> fell out by a mosquito :p
[01:53] <lotuspsychje> grrr nasty animals
[01:53] <OerHeks> does he have a name ?
[01:55] <lotuspsychje> lol
[02:11] <OerHeks> can someone put ubuntu +r ??
[02:11] <lotuspsychje> !ops
[02:15] <DalekSec> lotuspsychje: Problem?
[02:16] <lotuspsychje> DalekSec: in #ubuntu
[02:16] <OerHeks> DalekSec, can you put +r on #ubuntu? ( for a little while)
[02:17] <DalekSec> So doesn't really help to call OPs in here then..
[02:17] <lotuspsychje> DalekSec: its a more silent way
[02:18] <DalekSec> lotuspsychje: But different access lists.
[02:19] <OerHeks> True, i have ops here, but not in #ubuntu, lotuspsychje
[02:19] <DalekSec> Ubuntu members all do. :P
[02:19] <OerHeks> indeed :-)
[02:20] <DalekSec> Man, it'd be chaos if #ubuntu had that. :P
[02:21] <OerHeks> I don't want to be ops at all, but we in #ubuntu-nl have a few positions open, needed.
[02:22] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: downloading OTA-12
[02:22] <OerHeks> ah, the wave arrived
[02:33] <lotuspsychje> lookin good
[02:34] <lotuspsychje> calendar got bigger fonts with green active day
[02:35] <lotuspsychje> and system categorie added to top bar
[03:01] <lotuspsychje> http://news.softpedia.com/news/ubuntu-15-10-wily-werewolf-has-reach-end-of-life-upgrade-to-ubuntu-16-04-lts-506701.shtml
[03:01] <OerHeks> r.i.p. werewolf
[03:02] <lotuspsychje> time to get wily out of topic :p
[03:02] <lotuspsychje> and see only LTS versions :p
[03:14] <lotuspsychje> looks interesting OerHeks https://ring.cx/en
[03:16] <lotuspsychje> skype alternative
[03:17] <OerHeks> oh, dan kunnen we tegen elkaar kletsen
[03:18] <lotuspsychje> lol
[03:18] <OerHeks> nou, als je me wil zien, ik heb een ip-cam .. maar ik ben niet knap hoor
[03:19] <lotuspsychje> yeah ive controlled your ip cam once :p
[03:19] <OerHeks> ow wait, english
[03:22] <lotuspsychje> bbl
[06:19] <ducasse> \o
[06:19] <OerHeks> you are 19 minutes late!
[06:19] <OerHeks> grrrrrrrr
[06:19] <OerHeks> hi ducasse
[06:20] <ducasse> what happened at 8 o'clock? :)
[06:20] <OerHeks> some dude tried to convince me that bumblebee is awesome, better than prima, but he cannot get it to work :-D
[06:21] <OerHeks> c/prime
[06:21] <ducasse> heh, doesn't sound like he convinced you ;)
[06:22] <OerHeks> he disappointed me, yes
[06:22] <OerHeks> now i have to see my shrink
[06:22] <OerHeks> daftykins, are you free?
[06:23] <ducasse> if you do tech support for any length of time you _will_ need therapy, in my experience :)
[06:24] <OerHeks> True. actually, i think it is healthy, to step out after 9 months for some short period of time ..
[08:23] <daftykins> OerHeks: morning o/
[08:23] <daftykins> just got my new keyboard 8D
[08:23] <daftykins> oooooh bliss!
[08:23] <OerHeks> You type much smarter now
[08:24] <daftykins> mmm it feels like it requires so much less effort
[08:26] <ducasse> ooooh, which did you get, daftykins?
[08:27] <daftykins> that steelseries M500 with the cherry MX red keys
[08:27] <daftykins> all its' funky buttons are working without the software too, so i might ignore it entirely
[08:28] <ducasse> actually looked at those in a shop the other day, looked nice. i prefer cherry blue switches, though.
[08:29] <daftykins> i decided they were too loud, the blues - they were on my old das
[08:29] <daftykins> they would irritate anyone i would be on webcam with :)
[08:29] <ducasse> don't have a webcam, nor a microphone :)
[08:30] <daftykins> d'aww ;)
[08:31] <daftykins> i've heard a few people say they annoyed work colleagues when they took a blue switch board to work XD
[08:31] <ducasse> or one of the old ibm model b's :)
[08:39] <daftykins> OerHeks: so someone made you try bumblebee? ruh-roh
[08:39] <daftykins> this is the trouble with #ubuntu folks, they resist change once deprecation comes about
[08:39] <OerHeks> no, that guy tried to convince me that it works great, but he didn't get it to work :-D
[08:40] <daftykins> XD
[08:40] <OerHeks> and furter-on he said i asked him about it, grinn
[08:40] <OerHeks> and then ducasse came out of bed, 18 minutes late
[08:41] <daftykins> lets sneak in and change his alarm ;)
[08:42] <daftykins> oof i best go do my proper wakeup now, i only got up for the postman delivering my keyboard
[08:43] <ducasse> don't have an alarm as such, mine is built-in :)
[08:44] <OerHeks> my alarm has a tail and 2 brown eyes
[08:44] <OerHeks> went off 03:15 this morning ...
[08:45] <ducasse> well, i've got one too, but she usually gives up after a few attempts.
[08:48] <daftykins> OerHeks: wow what did Drabber want? :)
[08:48] <OerHeks> He wanted a walk & cookie
[08:49] <OerHeks> i told him to use firefox, but he insisted me
[09:00] <daftykins> :D
[09:00] <daftykins> we are staff to our pets!
[11:22] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[11:22] <daftykins> gm \o
[11:24] <ducasse> hi, BluesKaj
[11:24] <BluesKaj> hi daftykins, ducasse
[11:25] <daftykins> haha i'm RMAing some 7 year old RAM :D
[11:25] <daftykins> go lifetime warranty \o/
[11:26] <BluesKaj> RMAing?
[11:26] <OerHeks> isn'tlifetime waranty 5 years?
[11:26] <OerHeks> hi BluesKaj
[11:26] <daftykins> return material auth, so replacement under warranty
[11:27] <BluesKaj> really eh, must have been $$$
[11:27] <daftykins> http://www.corsair.com/en-gb/support/warranty
[11:27] <daftykins> nah not really, let's see... i had to dig out my original invoice
[11:27] <daftykins> £66.94 for 2x2GB DDR2 :)
[11:29] <OerHeks> This version of the warranty applies to products purchased on or after April 15, 2014 ..
[11:34] <daftykins> yeah they've pretty much always been good though
[11:34] <daftykins> so cheap to make RAM, makes sense to give it their faith
[11:34] <daftykins> costs them near nothing to send out some replacements :)
[11:48] <de-facto> is lifetime meant for the life of the RAM or for the user who installed it? :P
[12:04] <OerHeks> life of the OS
[12:40] <daftykins> http://imgur.com/a/pIr9T
[12:41] <daftykins> just seen that XD
[18:42] <daftykins> i got the RMA guys!
[18:42] <daftykins> 7 year old RAM and still good :)
[18:42] <daftykins> they even have a set in stock O_O
[18:42] <ducasse> wow, that's pretty good :)
[18:45] <daftykins> have to post them to the Netherlands
[18:47] <OerHeks> \o/
[18:47] <OerHeks> ow wait, not to me
[18:48] <daftykins> d'aww
[18:48] <daftykins> i posted the Guernsey fudge to lotus today :)
[18:49] <daftykins> he'll get a surprise soon!
[18:49] <ducasse> they're broken anyway, OerHeks :)
[18:49] <daftykins> hehe that's true, well 1 x 2GB out of the 2 x 2GB kit is faulty
[18:49] <daftykins> and faulty in a really weird way, too
[18:50] <ducasse> "weirdly faulty ram" tends to be interesting.
[18:53] <daftykins> so it can work, it can memtest fine... but if you disconnect all mains power for 10+ minutes, it won't POST after that
[18:54] <daftykins> some motherboards will even display a message stating the BIOS is corrupt
[19:31] <ducasse> who the hell are these #wrongplanet idiots - kids?
[19:32] <OerHeks> dunno, those spammers run for fun
[19:32] <OerHeks> and i see same ips over and over again
[19:32] <daftykins> o0
[19:32] <daftykins> someone hitting #ubuntu ?
[19:33] <OerHeks> yeah, trains of spammers
[19:33] <ducasse> can't they be banned?
[19:33] <OerHeks> well, #freenode blocks ranges of bouncers, and such, but not enough, there are lots of complaints about that
[19:33] <daftykins> seemed to me the serious stuff only happened when ops weren't around :/
[19:35] <ducasse> lately this has happened daily, or several times a day, and it always seems to be the #wrongplanet crowd (or someone who wants to blame them)
[19:35] <daftykins> :/
[19:35] <daftykins> has an op done anything?
[19:35] <OerHeks> with single #
[19:36]  * daftykins nudges dax
[19:36] <OerHeks> holiday time i guess
[19:40] <daftykins> could be!
[19:40] <daftykins> good to know
[19:40] <daftykins> they're only around when dafty calls someone an idiot ;D
[19:42] <ducasse> what did he actually do for you to call him that? :)
[19:43] <daftykins> the guy had been in-channel for a week asking for help, seeing us tell tonnes of others that 16.04 wasn't out yet so they should be in #ubuntu+1 - yet didn't think that applied to himself
[19:44] <daftykins> it was only on my turn that the version was admitted
[19:45] <ducasse> aha, i see. i get the frustration, you get people in there doing the strangest things some times...
[19:46] <daftykins> yip, it's the deception that was my #1 pet peeve
[19:46] <dax> yay Drone
[19:46] <daftykins> dax: ops working hard as usual?
[19:46] <ducasse> that bot is earning it's keep :)
[19:46] <dax> this one's working hard in real life
[19:47] <dax> if any of you have ever worked with windows licensing, you can probably guess how frustrated i am right now
[19:47] <daftykins> haha
[19:47] <ducasse> thankfully, never :)
[19:47] <daftykins> thankfully not within a corporate context
[19:47] <dax> ducasse: #wrongplanet is a channel for autistic folks. As such, it tends to have some drama. Every so often, one of the drama people decides to start spamming other channels claiming to be acting on behalf of #wrongplanet, so that people join #wrongplanet and get angry
[19:47] <hggdh> dax: try IBM licencing
[19:47] <daftykins> small biz, totally fine
[19:47] <ducasse> oracle, though...
[19:47] <dax> i.e., it's some disgruntled idiot, not actual #wp ops or anything
[19:47] <dax> hggdh: true
[19:48] <dax> thankfully, our vendor handles Oracle licensing for us, it's included with our license for the vendor's product
[19:48] <ducasse> dax: this was 10+ years ago, i understand it's gotten much worse now.
[19:49] <dax> daftykins: yeah, we're at the scale that we use a key management system, which tends to not work when people completely ignore best practices and then yell at me when it takes time to pick up the pieces
[19:49] <dax> it has not been a good week
[19:49] <daftykins> :> yeah i've read about the KMS mess
[19:49] <dax> thankfully Windows 10 can do activation through active directory. but we're not on Windows 10, so that's not much help right now :3
[19:49] <daftykins> the place i used to teach at have a really hellish game licensing the students' test systems now
[19:50] <daftykins> i'm sure a migration to 10 would be the next most enjoyable task ;)
[19:52] <dax> it's getting better. i wish we could just use an OS that doesn't need me to faff around with DRM though
[19:52] <dax> such a waste of time
[19:56] <daftykins> you'd only have a different batch of problems using FOSS
[19:56] <daftykins> and if you disagree with that, you're living a lie :)
[23:20] <Bashing-om> !15.10
[23:21] <dax> is that thing officially dead yet
[23:21] <dax> i haven't been paying attention
[23:25] <hggdh> just died