| mappps | good morning | 04:32 |
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| === mappps is now known as mapps | ||
| diddledan | mooorning | 07:30 |
| brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 08:14 |
| davmor2 | Mornign all | 08:17 |
| davmor2 | Morning all even | 08:17 |
| brobostigon | morning davmor2 | 08:18 |
| daftykins | morning all \o | 08:23 |
| daftykins | oooh yes my glorious new keyboard is here :D sweet mechanical keys again instead of horrid membrane | 08:24 |
| brobostigon | morning daftykins | 08:24 |
| brobostigon | :) | 08:24 |
| diddledan | daftykins: I think one of my new rams is bust | 08:24 |
| daftykins | o rry? does it stop POST or is it causing instability? | 08:25 |
| diddledan | it would bluescreen randomly | 08:25 |
| daftykins | ah and the reasons keep changing? | 08:25 |
| diddledan | yup | 08:25 |
| daftykins | is it stuff that requires you set an XMP setting in the BIOS, or just bog standard? | 08:25 |
| diddledan | I ran windows' inbuilt memory test and it said problems. removed two sticks and now it passes the same test | 08:26 |
| daftykins | pin it down with memtest86+ :) | 08:26 |
| diddledan | yeah, I might do that later - set it going overnight | 08:27 |
| daftykins | nah just do it on the suspected bad DIMM, it'll only take like 15 minutes for a 4GB module if that | 08:28 |
| daftykins | i got 2400MHz stuff myself, so i set it to its' XMP setting in the BIOS | 08:28 |
| daftykins | also ugh at my old motherboard causing one of the core 2 quad PCs to stop POSTing again, so i think it's time to call that motherboard dead | 08:30 |
| daftykins | or at least unreliable! | 08:30 |
| diddledan | war of attrition - change everything until you can prove a negative | 08:31 |
| daftykins | :) | 08:31 |
| daftykins | got to decide whether i just take the motherboard from the lowest specced system, as it's quite a nice one, or get another off ebay | 08:32 |
| diddledan | "it hasn't died for the last 3 reboots. does that mean it's fixed or just not completely dead?" | 08:32 |
| daftykins | hehe, it's funny because it does it when it's unplugged from the mains, but it's not the CMOS battery | 08:33 |
| diddledan | I hate the analogue nature of digital-equipment failures | 08:33 |
| daftykins | yeah i'd much rather a true death, although then i'd be sat for ages faffing trying to get it to POST i suppose | 08:33 |
| diddledan | I like binary - alive or dead | 08:33 |
| diddledan | https://youtu.be/r3cM5P8tUhc?t=26 | 08:34 |
| daftykins | :> | 08:39 |
| daftykins | bit sad that videos info didn't tell me what on earth it was | 08:40 |
| diddledan | portable computer from 1980 with a CRT display! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5SzKM7g5Ds | 08:44 |
| daftykins | kHz! | 08:48 |
| daftykins | gm JamesTait o/ | 08:48 |
| JamesTait | Good morning all! Happy Thursday, and happy Milk Chocolate Day! 😃 🍫 | 08:49 |
| diddledan | that's a day I can get behind! | 08:49 |
| JamesTait | 👋 daftykins | 08:49 |
| * JamesTait reaches for the Milk Tray. | 08:49 | |
| diddledan | I'm going to pre-empt davmor2 to make his job more difficult because he can't duplicate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQCQnARnKbc | 08:49 |
| JamesTait | I couldn't eat any now, I'm too full of fruit and oats. | 08:50 |
| daftykins | i wanted you to have said 'fruit and nut' | 08:50 |
| daftykins | :D | 08:50 |
| daftykins | diddledan: haha i love the line 'playing along at home' i use that myself :> | 08:50 |
| JamesTait | Oh, I forgot the nuts! | 08:50 |
| daftykins | Cadburys Dairy Milk fruit and nut ;D | 08:51 |
| JamesTait | Yum | 08:51 |
| diddledan | +1 | 08:51 |
| davmor2 | diddledan, JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAjIn6SJK5Y | 08:59 |
| * daftykins hears the brass band starting again | 09:00 | |
| JamesTait | davmor2, I don't know where my boys heard this, but they went through a phase of singing it constantly a few years ago. | 09:01 |
| diddledan | oh god that's an earworm | 09:02 |
| davmor2 | diddledan: hey you only have yourself to blame you stole shanks and bigfoot | 09:09 |
| diddledan | lol | 09:09 |
| diddledan | touché | 09:10 |
| daftykins | diddledan: https://youtu.be/yac6YByAcRc?t=520 D: | 09:15 |
| daftykins | ITS EVERYWHERE! | 09:15 |
| czajkowski | Myrtti: ping mind a dm ? | 09:19 |
| daftykins | PM :P | 09:20 |
| * daftykins teases czajkowski's twitter talk | 09:20 | |
| * czajkowski slaps daftykins | 09:20 | |
| czajkowski | things you cant do on twitter but you can on IRC! :) | 09:21 |
| * daftykins gains a red face :o | 09:22 | |
| popey | 09:24 | |
| daftykins | 09:24 | |
| diddledan | 09:24 | |
| czajkowski | speechless who'd have thought it would happen | 09:25 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | ubuntu | 09:25 |
| diddledan | correct | 09:25 |
| SebthreeBQM10HD | that was a test thing just done 0TA 12 | 09:28 |
| Myrtti | czajkowski: sure | 09:51 |
| === Darkstar is now known as Guest10089 | ||
| czajkowski | Myrtti: tis sorted now | 10:03 |
| czajkowski | sorry | 10:03 |
| daftykins | mmmm lovely new keys | 10:04 |
| daftykins | £80 admittedly, but i thoroughly recommend the steelseries M500 keyboard | 10:04 |
| === pbx is now known as waggott14 | ||
| daftykins | given i was linking to tall bikes yesterday, i just ran into one! | 12:41 |
| daftykins | http://imgur.com/a/pIr9T | 12:41 |
| daftykins | this guy was employing child labour to push him around | 12:41 |
| diddledan | daftykins: I think we need to report him then | 14:17 |
| ghostnetpc | report who | 14:18 |
| diddledan | huh? | 14:19 |
| diddledan | was he worried I meant him? | 14:21 |
| daftykins | lol | 14:28 |
| daftykins | probably, tinfoil freenoders everywhere! | 14:28 |
| daftykins | can't believe i raised an RMA ticket on some 7 year old RAM :D go Corsair \o/ | 14:29 |
| diddledan | wow | 14:29 |
| diddledan | that’s impressive | 14:29 |
| daftykins | they might still tell me it's not under the lifetime one but we'll see :> | 14:33 |
| Seeker` | daftykins: I suspect their response will be "LOL" | 14:39 |
| daftykins | Seeker`: when their products carry a "Lifetime Warranty" ? bold claim sir :P | 14:40 |
| davmor2 | daftykins: man that's cheating it has 3 wheels | 14:44 |
| daftykins | wat | 14:44 |
| diddledan | the bike | 14:45 |
| davmor2 | diddledan: 3 wheels remember the trike ;) | 14:45 |
| diddledan | good point | 14:45 |
| daftykins | oh i see, a topic hop threw me! | 14:47 |
| davmor2 | daftykins: sorry playing catchup :) | 14:48 |
| daftykins | ^_^ np | 14:48 |
| daftykins | the clowns were pretty ace | 14:48 |
| daftykins | nice, Corsair just replied asking if i only had one kit faulty | 15:06 |
| daftykins | now that is support. | 15:06 |
| DJones | daftykins: They were all faulty weren't they, time for a replacement | 15:12 |
| daftykins | :D | 15:12 |
| daftykins | guy that used to work for this client took that office PC home for himself so i don't know what it's up to now | 15:13 |
| diddledan | I miss this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsNaR6FRuO0 | 15:47 |
| * daftykins doesn't | 15:47 | |
| DJones | I'm with daftykins on that | 15:57 |
| diddledan | only the sound, not the speeds | 15:58 |
| Seeker` | I hope that's the old ladies video | 16:08 |
| daftykins | i was about to say no, i much prefer the instant sync of VDSL... but the routers i've used take a fair while to sync | 16:08 |
| Seeker` | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTos3CsvnLQ | 16:08 |
| daftykins | that's scary | 16:12 |
| diddledan | https://youtu.be/yhYEWvWkWLg | 16:59 |
| daftykins | wow. | 17:08 |
| daftykins | LOL my 7 year old RAM RMA has been accepted - Corsair are ace | 17:35 |
| === zmoylan-1i is now known as zmoylan-pi | ||
| diddledan | watching london has fallen. they blow the poo out everything | 18:45 |
| zmoylan-pi | 2016 has taken garibaldi... http://www.epictimes.com/07/28/2016/j-michael-straczynskis-statement-death-jerry-doyle/ :-( | 18:59 |
| diddledan | NOOOOOOooooooo | 19:02 |
| diddledan | it sounds like it's widdling-down outside | 19:57 |
| daftykins | it's gone very gloomy here! i've had to actually close up the windows again from super summer mode++ | 19:58 |
| daftykins | diddledan: https://youtu.be/7S5IuaKiZIY?t=225 | 21:21 |
| diddledan | wow | 21:23 |
| daftykins | MODEM SOLO! | 21:23 |
| daftykins | i had that Lasat modem in blue, too | 21:23 |
| zmoylan-pi | i only dealt with usr modems thank gorky | 21:25 |
| daftykins | ah the Lasat was ace, when we got it though it had a 9 pin serial cable and the mouse was 9 pin too :( only one port on the PC | 21:27 |
| daftykins | took weeks to beg the old man to go back and buy a 25 to 9 adapter | 21:27 |
| zmoylan-pi | yeah, i had to scan in a huge dublin map on a pc with 1 serial port, using serial mouse, serial scanner. eventually found a ps/2 mouse that decided it would work... | 21:28 |
| daftykins | :D | 21:29 |
| daftykins | i loved the article about Australia being off its' GPS data right now because of the plate shift | 21:29 |
| zmoylan-pi | of course it meant nicking the newest shiniest mouse from my boss to do the job... | 21:29 |
| daftykins | zmoylan-pi: what a coincidence! | 21:29 |
| zmoylan-pi | 7mb of b&w pcx images of dublin city to add a map facility to crm software... | 21:30 |
| zmoylan-pi | written in basic for extra difficulty bonus points... :-) | 21:31 |
| zmoylan-pi | it worked suprisingly fast on 286's with 640k of ram... | 21:33 |
| daftykins | 7 whole megabytes! | 21:34 |
| daftykins | i always think it'd be ace to grab some of today's tech and travel back in time to an 80s CES equivalent and show it all | 21:34 |
| zmoylan-pi | hard disks were 40mb so it was a _lot_ | 21:35 |
| daftykins | oh i recall the 486 apricots we got at home with the 40MB removable cassette drives | 21:35 |
| daftykins | beastly | 21:35 |
| zmoylan-pi | phones would be meh compared to pdas of 90s. 90% of their functionality wouldn't work without cloud | 21:35 |
| daftykins | that's a little bit like saying your life raft doesn't work without the sea, though | 21:36 |
| zmoylan-pi | you'd have to drag a laptop back. and while it would be smaller and shinier with way more spec it would be... just a laptop | 21:36 |
| daftykins | well it would also be thin enough to cut cheese! | 21:38 |
| zmoylan-pi | and without wifi and a lot of network infrastructure it wouldn't talk to contemporary hardware | 21:38 |
| zmoylan-pi | copy that file to a floppy... :-) | 21:39 |
| ali1234 | i would take a selfie stick back in time | 21:44 |
| zmoylan-pi | or send the file via serial cable... | 21:44 |
| ali1234 | people would be so confused by it | 21:44 |
| zmoylan-pi | i saw a pic of a selfie stick in 1920s iirc | 21:45 |
| ali1234 | i'd take one of the ones with a fake hand on it | 21:45 |
| zmoylan-pi | they were rigging cameras for self pics back then too | 21:45 |
| ali1234 | http://home.bt.com/images/youll-never-be-alone-with-the-selfie-arm-136397833140103901-150429131736.jpg | 21:45 |
| zmoylan-pi | if you want to crush their spirit take a modern printer so they can see how bad they still are... | 21:46 |
| zmoylan-pi | what you could do is bring a printout of the linux kernel back... | 21:48 |
| ali1234 | tbh there isn't much around today that wasn't predicted in popular culture in the 80s | 21:48 |
| zmoylan-pi | ^this | 21:48 |
| ali1234 | or at least sci-fi | 21:48 |
| zmoylan-pi | when i see tradeshows announcements there's next to nothing exciting | 21:49 |
| ali1234 | it's plenty exciting | 21:49 |
| ali1234 | it would be to an 80s guy anyway | 21:49 |
| zmoylan-pi | the last thing that made me go wow was psion pdas. they were insanely good compared even to desktop computers of the time | 21:49 |
| ali1234 | raspberry pi is pretty impressive | 21:50 |
| zmoylan-pi | now the pi _is_ fantastic... but it's revolution isn't technical but more almost social. so many of them they created an instant community of hardware geeks | 21:50 |
| ali1234 | yeah but even so... the price and capability are amazing | 21:51 |
| zmoylan-pi | pure moores law | 21:51 |
| ali1234 | it destroys anything over about 10 years old | 21:51 |
| ali1234 | let alone 80s | 21:51 |
| zmoylan-pi | but someone decided instead of making a better faster machine for normal prices make a cheap as chips full system | 21:51 |
| ali1234 | we have those too they are called i7 | 21:52 |
| zmoylan-pi | when i started a pc was around ir£3000. and it dropped and dropped till now you can get a cheap laptop for €200 | 21:52 |
| zmoylan-pi | but some of them 3k computers are still ticking along whereas sub €300 laptops will be dead in 10 years | 21:53 |
| ali1234 | i think the most impressive thing you could take back would be a 16GB micro sd card. "yes, this 1cm square stores an order of magnitude more than every computer here, and it costs the same as a cup of coffee" | 21:53 |
| ali1234 | *every computer put together | 21:54 |
| zmoylan-pi | i remember my visor neo, getting an sd sled and adding a 16mb card to it. all the books i could carry compressed onto it!! :-) | 21:54 |
| daftykins | i was more getting at taking things back to demo the performance, not the concepts | 21:56 |
| ali1234 | yeah it wouldn't be a very interesting demo, but the numbers... | 21:57 |
| zmoylan-pi | and that's the hard part. you'd need to drag back a lot of hardware. otherwise it's just another box with blinky lights and a promise that's doing cool stugg | 21:57 |
| zmoylan-pi | *stuff | 21:57 |
| daftykins | i don't think so | 21:57 |
| ali1234 | if you want to wow people, a gear vr would do it | 21:58 |
| zmoylan-pi | for a % of the population it doesn't work and/or makes them throw up | 21:58 |
| ali1234 | same with rollercoasters man | 21:58 |
| ali1234 | i don't get this idea that you can't make vr games that make people sick | 21:59 |
| ali1234 | if you don't get sick playing a fighter jet simulation it isn't immersive enough in my opinion | 22:00 |
| zmoylan-pi | now a good mp3 player might be the most bang per buck in terms of functionality. here's a box the size of a pack of ciggies and it contains months of music | 22:00 |
| zmoylan-pi | plus tv shows and movies... | 22:00 |
| ali1234 | mp3 players are out of date now. people just stream | 22:00 |
| zmoylan-pi | many people just stream... many don't | 22:01 |
| ali1234 | old people :) | 22:01 |
| zmoylan-pi | people in rural areas without broadband | 22:01 |
| ali1234 | and hipsters | 22:01 |
| zmoylan-pi | people in dead zones where no amount of infrastrucure seems to work | 22:01 |
| ali1234 | i'm waiting for CDs to become fashionable again so i can sell all mine to hipsters | 22:01 |
| zmoylan-pi | tight people who refuse to pay for data | 22:02 |
| ali1234 | but they only want records and VHS tapes | 22:02 |
| ali1234 | and cassettes | 22:02 |
| ali1234 | give it another 10 years though... | 22:02 |
| zmoylan-pi | especially now japan has stopped making them... | 22:02 |
| zmoylan-pi | some very smart person went around and bought all the vinyl making gear a few years back... | 22:03 |
| ali1234 | i can't believe that... there's too much of it | 22:03 |
| zmoylan-pi | there was, but a lot was junked as it was /useless/ | 22:04 |
| ali1234 | loads of studios still have the ability to cut dub plates | 22:04 |
| ali1234 | it's not like one guy has a monopoly ;) | 22:04 |
| zmoylan-pi | small runs seem ok but for large runs you need more industrial equipment aiui | 22:04 |
| zmoylan-pi | we might just have to wait for 3d printers to have a high res... :-) | 22:05 |
| ali1234 | now that is definitely a way off | 22:06 |
| zmoylan-pi | i'd have agreed 2-3 years ago. but a lot of smart people are pushing the envelope for lots of different reasons | 22:06 |
| ali1234 | the very best 3d printers are still two orders of magnitude away from being good enough to do that | 22:07 |
| zmoylan-pi | those using them for medical applications are motivated to go super high res. | 22:08 |
| ali1234 | haha someone tried it: http://www.amandaghassaei.com/projects/3D_printed_record/ | 22:09 |
| ali1234 | that's actually surprisingly good | 22:09 |
| zmoylan-pi | it'll be the ip by pigeons for 3d printers. as the tech improves someone will keep trying :-) | 22:09 |
| zmoylan-pi | clarkes first law :-) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarke%27s_three_laws | 22:11 |
| ali1234 | done on a stratasys printer | 22:11 |
| zmoylan-pi | a very non standard piece of kit i'm guessing | 22:12 |
| ali1234 | extremely expensive high end gear, nothing at all like a typical rep rap thing | 22:12 |
| zmoylan-pi | which is why i think the medical 3d printing folk will be the first to approach the res required | 22:13 |
| zmoylan-pi | of course it could also be the i want to modify my phone to make a 3d printed phone case that clips an extra battery to the back of my smartphone that can't make it through one single day... :-) | 22:17 |
| ali1234 | of course if i was going back in time i would be really tempted to troll people too | 22:18 |
| zmoylan-pi | of course... :-) and in the future everyone uses macs... :-P | 22:18 |
| zmoylan-pi | donald trump running for president would probably get you laughed out of the room... | 22:20 |
| ali1234 | maybe not. he was much less of a joke in the 80s | 22:21 |
| ali1234 | just another rich business man | 22:21 |
| ali1234 | and they had an actor for president then | 22:21 |
| ali1234 | you'd probably get more of a reaction telling them a black man was president | 22:22 |
| zmoylan-pi | true | 22:22 |
| ali1234 | even in back to the future he only got to be mayor | 22:23 |
| ali1234 | but no i'd do stupid stuff like tell them youtube poops are the most popular form of entertainment in 2016 | 22:28 |
| ali1234 | then show them "over 9000" | 22:28 |
| zmoylan-pi | you could show them a typical youtube page of comments... | 22:30 |
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