[04:32] good morning === mappps is now known as mapps [07:30] mooorning [08:14] morning boys and girls. [08:17] Mornign all [08:17] Morning all even [08:18] morning davmor2 [08:23] morning all \o [08:24] oooh yes my glorious new keyboard is here :D sweet mechanical keys again instead of horrid membrane [08:24] morning daftykins [08:24] :) [08:24] daftykins: I think one of my new rams is bust [08:25] o rry? does it stop POST or is it causing instability? [08:25] it would bluescreen randomly [08:25] ah and the reasons keep changing? [08:25] yup [08:25] is it stuff that requires you set an XMP setting in the BIOS, or just bog standard? [08:26] I ran windows' inbuilt memory test and it said problems. removed two sticks and now it passes the same test [08:26] pin it down with memtest86+ :) [08:27] yeah, I might do that later - set it going overnight [08:28] nah just do it on the suspected bad DIMM, it'll only take like 15 minutes for a 4GB module if that [08:28] i got 2400MHz stuff myself, so i set it to its' XMP setting in the BIOS [08:30] also ugh at my old motherboard causing one of the core 2 quad PCs to stop POSTing again, so i think it's time to call that motherboard dead [08:30] or at least unreliable! [08:31] war of attrition - change everything until you can prove a negative [08:31] :) [08:32] got to decide whether i just take the motherboard from the lowest specced system, as it's quite a nice one, or get another off ebay [08:32] "it hasn't died for the last 3 reboots. does that mean it's fixed or just not completely dead?" [08:33] hehe, it's funny because it does it when it's unplugged from the mains, but it's not the CMOS battery [08:33] I hate the analogue nature of digital-equipment failures [08:33] yeah i'd much rather a true death, although then i'd be sat for ages faffing trying to get it to POST i suppose [08:33] I like binary - alive or dead [08:34] https://youtu.be/r3cM5P8tUhc?t=26 [08:39] :> [08:40] bit sad that videos info didn't tell me what on earth it was [08:44] portable computer from 1980 with a CRT display! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5SzKM7g5Ds [08:48] kHz! [08:48] gm JamesTait o/ [08:49] Good morning all! Happy Thursday, and happy Milk Chocolate Day! 😃 🍫 [08:49] that's a day I can get behind! [08:49] 👋 daftykins [08:49] * JamesTait reaches for the Milk Tray. [08:49] I'm going to pre-empt davmor2 to make his job more difficult because he can't duplicate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQCQnARnKbc [08:50] I couldn't eat any now, I'm too full of fruit and oats. [08:50] i wanted you to have said 'fruit and nut' [08:50] :D [08:50] diddledan: haha i love the line 'playing along at home' i use that myself :> [08:50] Oh, I forgot the nuts! [08:51] Cadburys Dairy Milk fruit and nut ;D [08:51] Yum [08:51] +1 [08:59] diddledan, JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAjIn6SJK5Y [09:00] * daftykins hears the brass band starting again [09:01] davmor2, I don't know where my boys heard this, but they went through a phase of singing it constantly a few years ago. [09:02] oh god that's an earworm [09:09] diddledan: hey you only have yourself to blame you stole shanks and bigfoot [09:09] lol [09:10] touché [09:15] diddledan: https://youtu.be/yac6YByAcRc?t=520 D: [09:15] ITS EVERYWHERE! [09:19] Myrtti: ping mind a dm ? [09:20] PM :P [09:20] * daftykins teases czajkowski's twitter talk [09:20] * czajkowski slaps daftykins [09:21] things you cant do on twitter but you can on IRC! :) [09:22] * daftykins gains a red face :o [09:24] [09:24] [09:24] [09:25] speechless who'd have thought it would happen [09:25] ubuntu [09:25] correct [09:28] that was a test thing just done 0TA 12 [09:51] czajkowski: sure === Darkstar is now known as Guest10089 [10:03] Myrtti: tis sorted now [10:03] sorry [10:04] mmmm lovely new keys [10:04] £80 admittedly, but i thoroughly recommend the steelseries M500 keyboard === pbx is now known as waggott14 [12:41] given i was linking to tall bikes yesterday, i just ran into one! [12:41] http://imgur.com/a/pIr9T [12:41] this guy was employing child labour to push him around [14:17] daftykins: I think we need to report him then [14:18] report who [14:19] huh? [14:21] was he worried I meant him? [14:28] lol [14:28] probably, tinfoil freenoders everywhere! [14:29] can't believe i raised an RMA ticket on some 7 year old RAM :D go Corsair \o/ [14:29] wow [14:29] that’s impressive [14:33] they might still tell me it's not under the lifetime one but we'll see :> [14:39] daftykins: I suspect their response will be "LOL" [14:40] Seeker`: when their products carry a "Lifetime Warranty" ? bold claim sir :P [14:44] daftykins: man that's cheating it has 3 wheels [14:44] wat [14:45] the bike [14:45] diddledan: 3 wheels remember the trike ;) [14:45] good point [14:47] oh i see, a topic hop threw me! [14:48] daftykins: sorry playing catchup :) [14:48] ^_^ np [14:48] the clowns were pretty ace [15:06] nice, Corsair just replied asking if i only had one kit faulty [15:06] now that is support. [15:12] daftykins: They were all faulty weren't they, time for a replacement [15:12] :D [15:13] guy that used to work for this client took that office PC home for himself so i don't know what it's up to now [15:47] I miss this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsNaR6FRuO0 [15:47] * daftykins doesn't [15:57] I'm with daftykins on that [15:58] only the sound, not the speeds [16:08] I hope that's the old ladies video [16:08] i was about to say no, i much prefer the instant sync of VDSL... but the routers i've used take a fair while to sync [16:08] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTos3CsvnLQ [16:12] that's scary [16:59] https://youtu.be/yhYEWvWkWLg [17:08] wow. [17:35] LOL my 7 year old RAM RMA has been accepted - Corsair are ace === zmoylan-1i is now known as zmoylan-pi [18:45] watching london has fallen. they blow the poo out everything [18:59] 2016 has taken garibaldi... http://www.epictimes.com/07/28/2016/j-michael-straczynskis-statement-death-jerry-doyle/ :-( [19:02] NOOOOOOooooooo [19:57] it sounds like it's widdling-down outside [19:58] it's gone very gloomy here! i've had to actually close up the windows again from super summer mode++ [21:21] diddledan: https://youtu.be/7S5IuaKiZIY?t=225 [21:23] wow [21:23] MODEM SOLO! [21:23] i had that Lasat modem in blue, too [21:25] i only dealt with usr modems thank gorky [21:27] ah the Lasat was ace, when we got it though it had a 9 pin serial cable and the mouse was 9 pin too :( only one port on the PC [21:27] took weeks to beg the old man to go back and buy a 25 to 9 adapter [21:28] yeah, i had to scan in a huge dublin map on a pc with 1 serial port, using serial mouse, serial scanner. eventually found a ps/2 mouse that decided it would work... [21:29] :D [21:29] i loved the article about Australia being off its' GPS data right now because of the plate shift [21:29] of course it meant nicking the newest shiniest mouse from my boss to do the job... [21:29] zmoylan-pi: what a coincidence! [21:30] 7mb of b&w pcx images of dublin city to add a map facility to crm software... [21:31] written in basic for extra difficulty bonus points... :-) [21:33] it worked suprisingly fast on 286's with 640k of ram... [21:34] 7 whole megabytes! [21:34] i always think it'd be ace to grab some of today's tech and travel back in time to an 80s CES equivalent and show it all [21:35] hard disks were 40mb so it was a _lot_ [21:35] oh i recall the 486 apricots we got at home with the 40MB removable cassette drives [21:35] beastly [21:35] phones would be meh compared to pdas of 90s. 90% of their functionality wouldn't work without cloud [21:36] that's a little bit like saying your life raft doesn't work without the sea, though [21:36] you'd have to drag a laptop back. and while it would be smaller and shinier with way more spec it would be... just a laptop [21:38] well it would also be thin enough to cut cheese! [21:38] and without wifi and a lot of network infrastructure it wouldn't talk to contemporary hardware [21:39] copy that file to a floppy... :-) [21:44] i would take a selfie stick back in time [21:44] or send the file via serial cable... [21:44] people would be so confused by it [21:45] i saw a pic of a selfie stick in 1920s iirc [21:45] i'd take one of the ones with a fake hand on it [21:45] they were rigging cameras for self pics back then too [21:45] http://home.bt.com/images/youll-never-be-alone-with-the-selfie-arm-136397833140103901-150429131736.jpg [21:46] if you want to crush their spirit take a modern printer so they can see how bad they still are... [21:48] what you could do is bring a printout of the linux kernel back... [21:48] tbh there isn't much around today that wasn't predicted in popular culture in the 80s [21:48] ^this [21:48] or at least sci-fi [21:49] when i see tradeshows announcements there's next to nothing exciting [21:49] it's plenty exciting [21:49] it would be to an 80s guy anyway [21:49] the last thing that made me go wow was psion pdas. they were insanely good compared even to desktop computers of the time [21:50] raspberry pi is pretty impressive [21:50] now the pi _is_ fantastic... but it's revolution isn't technical but more almost social. so many of them they created an instant community of hardware geeks [21:51] yeah but even so... the price and capability are amazing [21:51] pure moores law [21:51] it destroys anything over about 10 years old [21:51] let alone 80s [21:51] but someone decided instead of making a better faster machine for normal prices make a cheap as chips full system [21:52] we have those too they are called i7 [21:52] when i started a pc was around ir£3000. and it dropped and dropped till now you can get a cheap laptop for €200 [21:53] but some of them 3k computers are still ticking along whereas sub €300 laptops will be dead in 10 years [21:53] i think the most impressive thing you could take back would be a 16GB micro sd card. "yes, this 1cm square stores an order of magnitude more than every computer here, and it costs the same as a cup of coffee" [21:54] *every computer put together [21:54] i remember my visor neo, getting an sd sled and adding a 16mb card to it. all the books i could carry compressed onto it!! :-) [21:56] i was more getting at taking things back to demo the performance, not the concepts [21:57] yeah it wouldn't be a very interesting demo, but the numbers... [21:57] and that's the hard part. you'd need to drag back a lot of hardware. otherwise it's just another box with blinky lights and a promise that's doing cool stugg [21:57] *stuff [21:57] i don't think so [21:58] if you want to wow people, a gear vr would do it [21:58] for a % of the population it doesn't work and/or makes them throw up [21:58] same with rollercoasters man [21:59] i don't get this idea that you can't make vr games that make people sick [22:00] if you don't get sick playing a fighter jet simulation it isn't immersive enough in my opinion [22:00] now a good mp3 player might be the most bang per buck in terms of functionality. here's a box the size of a pack of ciggies and it contains months of music [22:00] plus tv shows and movies... [22:00] mp3 players are out of date now. people just stream [22:01] many people just stream... many don't [22:01] old people :) [22:01] people in rural areas without broadband [22:01] and hipsters [22:01] people in dead zones where no amount of infrastrucure seems to work [22:01] i'm waiting for CDs to become fashionable again so i can sell all mine to hipsters [22:02] tight people who refuse to pay for data [22:02] but they only want records and VHS tapes [22:02] and cassettes [22:02] give it another 10 years though... [22:02] especially now japan has stopped making them... [22:03] some very smart person went around and bought all the vinyl making gear a few years back... [22:03] i can't believe that... there's too much of it [22:04] there was, but a lot was junked as it was /useless/ [22:04] loads of studios still have the ability to cut dub plates [22:04] it's not like one guy has a monopoly ;) [22:04] small runs seem ok but for large runs you need more industrial equipment aiui [22:05] we might just have to wait for 3d printers to have a high res... :-) [22:06] now that is definitely a way off [22:06] i'd have agreed 2-3 years ago. but a lot of smart people are pushing the envelope for lots of different reasons [22:07] the very best 3d printers are still two orders of magnitude away from being good enough to do that [22:08] those using them for medical applications are motivated to go super high res. [22:09] haha someone tried it: http://www.amandaghassaei.com/projects/3D_printed_record/ [22:09] that's actually surprisingly good [22:09] it'll be the ip by pigeons for 3d printers. as the tech improves someone will keep trying :-) [22:11] clarkes first law :-) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarke%27s_three_laws [22:11] done on a stratasys printer [22:12] a very non standard piece of kit i'm guessing [22:12] extremely expensive high end gear, nothing at all like a typical rep rap thing [22:13] which is why i think the medical 3d printing folk will be the first to approach the res required [22:17] of course it could also be the i want to modify my phone to make a 3d printed phone case that clips an extra battery to the back of my smartphone that can't make it through one single day... :-) [22:18] of course if i was going back in time i would be really tempted to troll people too [22:18] of course... :-) and in the future everyone uses macs... :-P [22:20] donald trump running for president would probably get you laughed out of the room... [22:21] maybe not. he was much less of a joke in the 80s [22:21] just another rich business man [22:21] and they had an actor for president then [22:22] you'd probably get more of a reaction telling them a black man was president [22:22] true [22:23] even in back to the future he only got to be mayor [22:28] but no i'd do stupid stuff like tell them youtube poops are the most popular form of entertainment in 2016 [22:28] then show them "over 9000" [22:30] you could show them a typical youtube page of comments...