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mappshi05:37
MooDoohowdy all05:53
=== pbx is now known as waggott14
knightwiseGood morning peeps :)07:22
MooDoomorning07:25
brobostigonmorning boys and girls.08:54
JamesTaitGood morning all!  Happy Friday, and happy System Administrator Appreciation Day! 😃09:06
SuperMattoh that's today?09:12
SuperMattNo one has praised me at all :(09:12
JamesTaitMe neither.09:13
JamesTaitBut I bet if I unplug the internet, they'll all come running.09:13
SuperMattdo it09:13
JamesTait+++ CARRIER LOST09:14
brobostigonanyone running aorund like a headless chicken yt?09:16
* popey glares at cyanogenmod09:17
knightwiseoh my https://youtu.be/sg0D1PpgCXs09:39
brobostigonmeep :)09:46
brobostigonsorry.09:46
MooDoo:)09:55
* popey pokes waggott14 with a stick11:27
SuperMattis that a new type of pokemon?11:28
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=== stephen is now known as Guest62179
daftykinstemp ban perhaps for sanity?13:22
DJonesRight13:24
DJonesBeen settled for the last 10 minutes, if it keeps on, I'll ban forward to #fixyourconnection, daftykins Give me a shout if you see it continuing13:26
daftykinsDJones: will do, though i'll likely be out for the afternoon shortly :)13:27
popeywell, there's your answer DJones ^13:28
DJonesCheers, I;m going walking the dog in the woods in the next few minutes13:28
DJonesHopfully that should sort it13:29
daftykinshehe, that's the default message isn't it? XD13:30
DJonesFingers crossed, dog walking time, if they ask anywhere, as long as the connection is stable, please remove the ban13:30
DJonesYep it is13:31
DJonesI have a dog staring at me, so not much time to change the mesage13:31
daftykins*nod* was just thinking the guy might get grumpy13:32
DJonesYeah, sent them a pm to explain what happened13:36
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diddledanhttps://techcrunch.com/2016/07/26/a-hack-by-any-other-name/14:21
* knightwise soooo wants to go home14:34
=== flexiondotorg is now known as Wimpress
diddledannetplan (or nplan as the package is gonna be called) sounds interesting14:49
popeywossat?14:50
diddledanhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-y-network-yaml14:51
diddledanit was announced on ubuntu-devel earlier : https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2016-July/039464.html14:52
* DJones debates whether to try antine as a twitter client, but had doubts since it isn't even in a ppa, github download14:53
DJonesanatine14:53
popeyyeah, i looked at making a snap of it14:54
DJonesCertainly looks interesting, Ubuntu is missing a decent twitter app at the moment since polly became unsupported14:55
diddledanDJones: I've been using corebird14:55
DJonesBest I've found since then is corebird, but that doesn't auto update14:55
DJonesdiddledan: Have you found anyway to get it to auto update for new messages, without having to click the home button?14:56
diddledanI've not had any problem with it updating - it doesn't scroll to top by default though unless you go into the settings and toggle the autoscroll option14:57
DJonesHmmh, I'll look for that14:58
DJonesCan't even find any options for setting14:59
popeyi use tweetdeck in a browser window on its own15:02
popeylike a webapp15:02
diddledanwhat can I buy from ebay for at least £30?15:04
diddledan(nectar are offering 10x points if I make a purchase before sunday)15:04
popeyyou could buy this for me http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RARE-DIGITAL-Model-VT100-AA-COMES-WITH-SELAMAR-GRAPHIC-CARDS-POWERS-ON-/18166742971315:04
diddledanlol15:05
popeyout of your price range?15:06
popeyokay, how about this http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Various-Artists-Lost-In-Transmission-Chichester-Hospital-Radio-CD-2015-New-/36162198672415:06
daftykinsjust had to dodge a quadbike walking down my *pedestrian only* lane home, wat15:22
daftykinsguy was taking the lazy route to his insurer that's 2 doors up from me...15:32
diddledansorted an RMA for my RAMs15:56
diddledanbeing picked-up on mudnay15:56
diddledanI guess I'll have to be without beast for a couple days until I get replacement modules :-(15:57
daftykinsdid you pin it down to one module in the end?15:58
daftykinsi just posted the 7 year old stuff to the Netherlands just now :)15:58
diddledan\o/15:58
daftykins£2.84!15:58
diddledanthey didn't quibble at all over the return. I guess I described it well-enough that it was obvious there's one wonky module15:58
daftykinswhat brand is it?15:59
diddledanI think they probably argue less when you ask for a direct replacement, too15:59
diddledancrucial ballistix15:59
daftykinsah i do like crucial stuff, they even give freepost labels eh?15:59
diddledanit's going back to ebuyer 'cos that's where I bought it from15:59
daftykinsoic15:59
diddledanthey're organising the shipping collection16:00
daftykinsah they can't do that over here because couriers :(16:02
diddledanit's gonna be yodel >.<16:02
daftykinsoften folks would promise, but nobody would come ;) i think they get stuck at that wet bit south of Southampton...16:02
daftykinsor south of Land's End16:02
diddledanssshh, don't tell anyone but I've been doing c# again: https://github.com/DEVSENSE/Phalanger/pull/5916:20
daftykinsthey call 'im the diddler... but occasionally the fixer, too...16:53
* popey stabs cm1316:56
daftykins:o16:56
daftykinswhat'd it do? :P16:56
popeyinstall cm13, add sd card to "internal storage" which encrypts the sd card16:56
popeywhich is all fine16:56
popeytry and update cm13, it fails because it saves the zip then reboots to recovery, which can't see the encrypted sd card16:57
daftykinsoof.16:58
daftykinsthough i think they refer to the device / being a good spot for that very reason16:58
popeysadly their update tool doesnt save there16:59
daftykinslooks like folks are using workarounds by manually moving it, which isn't ideal!17:02
popeyindeed17:03
popeyand I can't even make the directory i need to move it to17:03
popeylooks like i need some root shennanigans17:03
popeysuch a mess17:03
daftykinsdoes the SD card become *actual* /sdcard, or a folder beneath that?17:03
daftykinshttps://www.reddit.com/r/cyanogenmod/comments/3yrsuk/updating_cm_with_sd_as_internal_storage/17:04
daftykinshttps://forum.cyanogenmod.org/topic/120600-cannot-update-cm-13-after-mounting-sd-card-as-internal-storage/17:04
daftykinsdates aren't great but those folk speak of ways and means17:04
popeyyeah, i can't make /data/foo17:04
popeyneed to become root somehow17:04
* popey fiddles17:04
daftykinssorry, i didn't read in enough detail :(17:05
diddledanpopey: if only someone would put normal linux on one17:05
diddledans/one/a phone/17:05
* popey shakes fist at cloud17:06
daftykinswhat are the benefits to SD card integration?17:06
diddledanmoar storage17:06
daftykinsnah but making it part of the internal and encrypting it, why those?17:06
diddledanandroid doesn't like putting apps on the sd17:06
daftykinsyeah it's never a good move17:06
popeythe benefit is more space17:07
popeybasically17:07
diddledanso to fix that bug they join the two togetehr17:07
popeyin older versions you can move apps to the sd card17:07
daftykinsis it because it's a low capacity device, like an 8GB?17:07
popeybut when you update in play store, they move back17:07
popey16GB17:07
daftykinsmm i came up against lots of apps that refused last time i played with that17:07
popeyyeah, I'd rather not have to keep moving them17:08
popeyhence switching to cm13 so I can just say "have at it" and give it the entire 64GB SD card17:08
popeywhich works fine, no slowdown17:08
popeyjust OTA is busted17:08
daftykins*nod*17:08
popeyso I think what I'll do is manually get the zip from the website and push it over adb17:08
daftykinsyou must install a lot of stuff!17:08
popeywhen in recovery17:08
popeynot really17:08
popeya few chunky games17:09
popeyi take a fair few photos and videos with it17:09
daftykinsah did they not go onto the SD by default, before it was integrated?17:09
popeyyou can choose to put them on sd, sure17:10
* diddledan blows chunks17:10
popeybut the thing still got full17:10
diddledanwhat does that phrase mean "blow chunks"?17:10
daftykinswat17:10
daftykinssomething a product does because it's inferior, in my experience17:10
popeyhence why I moved stuff to sd card17:10
popeydiddledan: puke17:10
diddledanaah17:11
daftykins(inferior due to bad design / what have you)17:11
popey¯\_(ツ)_/¯17:11
daftykinsmy friends wife brought me her HTC One M8 today that wasn't charging or doing anything for her over in England, they tried a few chargers... took it to a local shop and got told there was nothing to be done (it's a sealed battery type model)17:12
daftykinsanyway hands it to me, i pop it on a 2A tablet charger i have here, light came on - then a couple of minutes passed and the very low battery sign came up - charged all fine XD17:12
daftykinsshe now thinks i have a special touch17:12
daftykinsi think it just sensed the room has been where many a thing gets cracked open with no mercy17:13
popeywe used to get a lot of nexus 4's in that state when first developing ubuntu touch on it17:14
popeythe standard advice was "plug it into a decent charger and leave it alone for hours"17:14
popeyeventually they'd all wake up17:14
diddledanI remember that issue hitting the mailing list often17:14
daftykinsah yeah, cheaply sold?17:14
popeyyeah17:14
popeyno, just drained below zero17:14
popeyand we had no alert or system for shutting down17:14
daftykinsi mean for you to get them, though17:14
popeyso it would drain to nothing17:15
diddledanI think the galaxy nexus had the same problem17:15
popeyoh, no, we bought them new17:15
daftykinsoic17:15
popeyback when nexus 4 was the thing17:15
diddledan3-generations ago17:16
popeytime flies like a brick doesn't17:16
diddledan4 when the next ones drop in a month or so17:16
daftykinsstill got mine here, been abandoned by Google but still holds 2G service in my granite house better than my Nexus 5 does :|17:16
daftykinsjust don't fancy using it anymore since it's insecure really17:17
popeywhooo, installed a terminal and got root17:17
daftykins:)17:17
diddledanflying brick: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LruyfJJT7qY17:19
diddledansaw that movie in the cinema17:19
diddledanloved it17:20
diddledanpopey: is there a gif of "got root"?17:20
diddledanhttps://cdn.meme.am/instances/400x/54088016.jpg17:20
daftykinsdiddledan: nah this is a flying brick - (volume check) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZD4MaFHsK_w17:22
popeyhttp://i.imgur.com/yLNLvz6.png \o/17:23
diddledandaftykins: was it really necessary for that uploader to loop the thing for 5 and a half minutes?!17:24
daftykinshe tells me he just combined the two and then got all those views which he's not allowed to monetise :( so i'd go with... yes17:24
diddledantwo?17:25
diddledanthere's only one video there. looped. many many many times.17:25
daftykinsyes, video with audio17:26
daftykinsnot sure which portion he means belongs to someone, maybe both!17:26
daftykinshehe my PhD Physics mate just got the job after his interview in Tokyo, he messaged me "spec me a beast (PC), i've got a job!"17:29
diddledan:-p17:37
diddledanbeast, eh17:37
daftykinsmmm17:37
daftykinsguy always lives on the bread line so i wish he'd at least get one pay packet before splurging XD17:38
popey\o/ updateificated17:42
popeyright, time for beer17:42
popeyo/17:42
daftykinsenjoy o/17:42
diddledandid you pontificate?17:42
daftykinsyay by chance tonnes of friends that moved away are on the island this weekend \o/17:58
daftykinshmm that dud RAM was from that blown cap motherboard, perhaps it's not as dead as i thought...18:05
zmoylan-pizombies, every one panic!! \o/18:05
* daftykins keeps a weapon handy, just in case18:06
diddledandaftykins: the ram that you've got an RMA for?18:08
diddledanor different one?18:08
daftykinsRAM i posted off today came from the mobo with blown caps, yep18:11
daftykinsit would stop POST after a power cut, weirdly... yet could be made to work and kicked into life18:12
zmoylan-piintermittent computers are never to be trusted18:13
daftykinshttp://imgur.com/a/r1ouC18:29
daftykinswell yes sir, that is a given, but when they're only intermittent due to previously undiagnosed faults - they can rise again!18:30
zmoylan-pioh, i have used a purloined virus infected then cleaned obsolete junker as an email server for 4 years but it was beside my desk so i was on hand in the event it was ever to fail...18:34
zmoylan-pior a computer that only i could make boot as a novell file server for about the same amount of time.18:34
daftykins:>18:37
zmoylan-pibut as it was a novell server it only needed restarting after power cuts so once a year at most18:37
daftykinsi had actually discounted a different board with no cap issues with that wonky RAM in, so that one might be alright again, though it didn't POST with DDR3 in... only DDR2.18:37
daftykins(it has both, it's a rare board)18:37
daftykinswell i'll be, blown cap board POSTs first time with different RAM18:41
daftykinsthat 6 minute memtest!18:58
diddledanapparently someone managed to craft an exploit for the pornhub website20:30
diddledanobviously I'm not going to mention a clickable link for said site. because, you know.. SFW20:32
daftykinsand of course you don't know the TLD, never been20:33
diddledanwell that's true, too20:34
* zmoylan-pi almost wishes i was still working tech support to see who's pc is dragged in infected from this vulnerability...21:19
diddledanlol21:20
diddledanI get new internets on mudnay21:21
diddledanwhat's the betting openreach screw it up?21:22
zmoylan-pibeen delivered by a man in a bucket at 6am every morning...21:22
daftykinsdiddledan: what's the change?21:34
zmoylan-pia bigger bucket...21:35
diddledanmoving to aaisp21:35
daftykinsooh21:36
daftykinsweird caps21:37
diddledangotta love these: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbpztC6GHqw22:15
daftykinstoilet... in a letterbox... THAT WAS MY HOUSE!22:18
daftykinsoh it's a Blue Peter parody!22:19
* daftykins wakes up22:19
diddledanlol22:19
diddledanhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mVvRluNJpM22:19
diddledanhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtF5L9bKfO822:20
diddledanand of course https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5Y-0C0p_9s22:20
daftykinsi now know, that this was wrong22:54
danielthebague Hi looking to do an upgarde to 16.04.1 LTS and the installer states i have low disk space. i ran apt-get clean, apt-get autoclean, apt-get autoremove and also used ubuntu tweak tool to remove old kernels. also installed and ran bleachbit (as root) to clear old log files, emptied trash too and still i have a low disk space warning. is there a work around can i remove anything else or would a backup and new insta23:27
danielthebaguellation be more appropriate in my circumstances?23:27
daftykinsshow me "dpkg -l | grep linux- | nc termbin.com 9999"23:30
daftykinsalso "df -i | nc termbin.com 9999"23:32
daftykinscan only imagine that guy has me on ignore23:37
zmoylan-pior is new to irc...23:38
daftykinsoh here we go, PM reply now23:38
diddledanignore it23:38
daftykinshmm?23:38
diddledanthe pm23:38
daftykinswhy23:38
diddledanbecause it's rude to pm people without asking23:38
zmoylan-pi^this23:39
daftykinswhen you're offering them help? don't be ridiculous23:39
daftykinsanyway, person said they were going to just clean install - quitters!23:39
daftykinshonestly i'm blown away you'd even say that23:40
zmoylan-pii discourage pming as most of the time it is been done by people who are doing it wrong or are trolling23:41
diddledanpeople who have a prior relationship are ok to pm, but going into a chatroom you've never been to before and pming the first person to reply is bad netiquette23:42
zmoylan-piand encouraging bad manners doesn't help the community when more people are /rude/23:43
daftykinsno no, when the guy left the channel, i PM'd *them* because it was as though the advice was missed23:43
zmoylan-piah, fair enough23:44
daftykinsyeah if they PM i bite them on the nose... hard...23:44
diddledanoic. I figured he came here, asked for help, saw you reply, left the room and pm'd you randomly23:44
daftykinsmmm makes sense to me now!23:45
diddledanmmm, cookies23:45
daftykinsmmmmm23:45
diddledannot muh cookies!23:45
daftykinsmmk i gave this other motherboard another try but nope, it's still properly unreliable23:45
zmoylan-pijust i've seen people wander into irc rooms and then pm anyone who looks active23:46
diddledanhttp://buffy.wikia.com/wiki/M'Fashnik_Demon23:46
daftykinsso the popped cap one is the best so far, it could probably live again if they were replaced23:46
diddledanzmoylan-pi: me too23:46
daftykinsyeah, my mistake - i think i was a bit too in my own head thinking "i know i PM'd first..." when i said he replied23:46
zmoylan-pii saw an interesting blog entry a while back of an engineer sick of wifi ap dying every year or so who removed all the capacitors on a new one and replaced them with good quality ones and the device was going years later23:47
* diddledan pets daftykins23:47
* zmoylan-pi pushes the chocolate hobnobs daftykins way23:47
* daftykins is petted23:47
daftykinsd'aww thanks guys!23:47
diddledanmmm nobnobs!23:47
daftykinsthose are totally a fave of mine23:48
diddledanditto23:48
zmoylan-pican't go wrong with hobnobs. lowest common denominator of a good biccie23:53
* daftykins mentally labels this mobo 'definitely dead'23:54
zmoylan-pii used postage labels and wrote on them with a sharpie to mark hardware.  stick it to underside. and date it23:55
daftykinsthat sounds good23:57
daftykinsi definitely always write on the HDDs labels for bad sector ones23:57
diddledaneven easier is to break the board in-two23:57
diddledanbroken board = broken board23:58
daftykinstoo much fallout for my little 4 pawed lass to deal with :)23:58
diddledanmakes it obvious then23:58
daftykinsand future dafty to clean up!23:58
diddledanaww, she koot23:58
zmoylan-piand if you want the postage label to be easily removeable, stick it to your sleeve 2-3 times as that adds fluff/lint to make it less sticky23:58
daftykinsstill, i've got three working23:59
daftykinsthat's pretty ace23:59

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