[00:06] ... [00:06] ??? [00:31] some more green today [00:32] just fixes for the mess I just made [00:32] but not it should be quiet - I hope [00:33] *now [00:45] I think we need another semaphore around dput... [00:48] * clivejo cries [00:49] it'll get a lot more red [00:50] I dont like red [00:50] funny enough, swy-01 is so slow, that it never hits the concurrency issue with dput [00:51] lets see if I can figure out another DRB wrapper [02:11] acheronuk: odd schedule, my time zone is CDT and it's 9:11 PM right now [02:14] heyo tsimonq2 [02:24] how are you ahoneybun? [02:24] fine, you? [02:28] great ahoneybun :) [02:29] how's the 16.10 alpha for lubuntu? [02:30] great :) [02:48] yofel your pushing that servers CPU over 90% [05:32] clivejo: you said something about trojita right? [06:31] !info [06:31] !support [06:31] The official Kubuntu support channel is #kubuntu. Please be aware that this channel is for development only. [06:45] oh you built it for yakkety... [06:45] I need a xenial as I can't get gpg to work [07:15] ahoneybun: what's wrong and how to reproduce? [07:47] google doesn't tell me anything about gpg issues on YY [07:52] blaze: they were talking about trojita email client I think? [08:00] acheronuk: ping [08:00] morning (or middle of the night) [08:01] hey, can you help me figure out what is wrong with plasma-discover ? [08:01] I have both the apps and plasma staging PPAs enabled [08:02] wrong in what sense? won't install? [08:02] plasma-discover : Depends: packagekit (>= 1.0) [08:02] Recommends: software-properties-kde but it is not going to be installed [08:02] acheronuk: ^ [08:02] acheronuk: yeah, won't install [08:03] acheronuk: what's up with packagekit? [08:03] packagekit 1.2? I think is stuck in 'proposed' for YY [08:04] well that needs to be solved, otherwise with those PPAs, lubuntu-qt-desktop is not installable :( [08:04] actually 1.1.1 [08:04] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/packagekit [08:05] it was being talked about the other day. have to check the IRC logs as I can't recall if anything was to be done [08:06] trying: packagekit [08:06] skipped: packagekit (0, 43, 8) got: 291+0: a-168:a-16:a-17:i-18:p-22:p-17:s-33 [08:06] it breaks a loooooot of packages... [08:07] https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2016/07/26/%23kubuntu-devel.html [08:10] acheronuk: playing with it in a VM now [08:10] I'll try upgrading it and seeing what it breaks [08:19] python3-aptdaemon depends gir1.2-packagekitglib-1.0 (<< 0.9) [08:20] so 1.1 would break that, and in turn aptdaemon itself [08:24] yeah just figured that out acheronuk [08:24] acheronuk: so is that the only package broken you think? [08:27] not sure, but I guess breaking apt-daemon is a source of most of the other breakage that would result, if not all [08:27] yeah [08:27] acheronuk: do you think just bumping the dep would fix it? [08:28] acheronuk: it should, because it's already in Debian :D [08:28] (packagekit is) [08:29] I don't know enough about apt-daemon to say what effect a much newer packagekit would have on it [08:30] the << 0.9 was clearly there for a reason. whether that reason still holds, I can't say [08:30] yeah [08:33] LP bug: 1496292 [08:33] Launchpad bug 1496292 in packagekit (Ubuntu) "Needs to be ported to packagekit 1" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1496292 [08:39] hey, there we go, that's the issue I think! [08:40] yep, when aptdaemon 1.1.1+bzr982-0ubuntu15 gets out of 'proposed' itself, that 'should' sort it [08:40] alright, time to look at that now :) [08:41] Depends on gir1.2-packagekitglib-1.0 (>= 1.1.1) now, to enforce using [08:41] PackageKit 1.1; which drops GET_DEPENDS and GET_REQUIRES. [08:41] yes [08:44] oh, last few comments on that bug suggest a few things need rebuilding for the new packagekit itself [08:44] but seems people are on it :) [08:47] acheronuk: it's been a month, maybe I should poke someone about it? :) [08:51] ah. getting my month wrong! [08:53] acheronuk: so what do you suggest? :) [08:54] WWYD? [08:55] hi soee [08:55] acheronuk: huh? [08:56] tsimonq2: oh, you haven't seen that. short for "What Would Yofl Do" [08:56] hiho [08:57] acheronuk: XD [08:57] I don't know him well enought :P [08:57] *ehough [08:57] **enough [08:57] grr [09:01] Yofl ? [09:01] soee: y o f e l [09:02] ah right as it is some family to Yoda [09:03] acheronuk: well what WOULD he do? [09:04] he woudl YODLE! [09:04] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQhqikWnQCU [09:06] tsimonq2: a few days ago on those logs he said he would "look over it". assuming that reply was about this [09:06] yofel: could you please take a look at bug 1496292 ? [09:06] bug 1496292 in packagekit (Ubuntu) "Needs to be ported to packagekit 1" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1496292 [09:06] * tsimonq2 runs [09:06] so I would see later whether he got a chance [09:06] alright :) [09:07] speaking of that, I'm off to bed, o/ [09:08] night then, or morning, or whatever the hll :P [09:23] ahoneybun: linode? yes. I'm trying to impose some CPU limits on it, but live updating didn't work so I need to try that when the node is offline [09:24] 07:27:56 make: *** Cannot allocate memory. Stop. [09:25] hm, updating docker did not help [09:35] ok, linode can now only use 1 cpu [09:35] that should throttle it a bit [10:25] uhm [10:49] yofel: did you used KDevelop ? [10:49] I did, but haven't used it in a long time [10:50] is it good for creating plasoimds ? [10:50] no idea -> #kdevelop [10:50] also i tried to click on New project button and it does nothing:/ [10:50] our kdevelop version is more than a bit outdated though [10:53] sitter: can I somhow access the toplevel Launchpad API collections through Rubber? I'm trying to figure out a ruby equivalent for lp.git_repositories.getRepositories(target=lp.projects['kubuntu-packaging']) [10:54] bah another issue [10:54] this seems to make my New project button work https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=218&t=130501 [10:55] ah yeah, as I said, our kdevelop is outdated [10:56] !info kdevelop | xenial [10:56] xenial: kdevelop (source: kdevelop): integrated development environment for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:4.7.3-0ubuntu1 (yakkety), package size 1628 kB, installed size 6494 kB [10:56] isn't it latest stable ? [10:56] it is, but it's qt4, you want to qt5 version for the apptemplates to work fine [10:56] *want the [11:15] rofl :D [11:15] http://i.imgur.com/Ef7Nl62.png [11:15] heh [11:20] daily builds of qt5 kdevelop in a someones ppa? https://launchpad.net/~blaze/+archive/ubuntu/kf5 [11:21] I had that enabled on Xenial before I upgraded, but never go round to actually trying it. [11:21] *got around [11:22] :) [11:23] on my desktop, quassel gives Rik the same highlight color that it gives aaron on my notebook, and as both nicks start with a, my mind constantly tries to read Rik's messages as aaron's [11:23] aaaaaargh [11:24] yofel: can I disable autotests for - https://launchpadlibrarian.net/275736185/buildlog_ubuntu-yakkety-amd64.kross-interpreters_4%3A16.04.3+p16.10+git20160729.2156-0_BUILDING.txt.gz [11:24] seems they still dont want to work even with fake frame buffer [11:25] acheronuk: any progress on marble? [11:25] to me that reads like kross is actually broken? [11:25] it shouldn't even need X [11:25] clivejo: not got back to it today yet. I plan to late afternoon [11:26] * clivejo has no idea what kross is and why it needs interpreting [11:27] * acheronuk was surprised palapeli is a jigsaw puzzle [11:28] clivejo: belongs to the other language bindings stack [11:31] * clivejo wishes KDE software was more descriptively named [11:31] where's the fun in that? :P [11:31] whats wrong with kjigsaw ? [11:32] dunno, wasn't the developers preference? [11:32] I dont like having to go hunt for apps [11:33] is it any wonder noone knows about them! [11:33] well that's what package descriptions are for... [11:33] and categories to some extent [11:33] and even if I knew what it was and wanted it, I can bearly spell it! [11:34] not good having to go ask google for names of apps you want [11:38] hmm: X-KDE-PluginInfo-Name=org.kde.tutorial [11:38] what valud shoudl be set for kubuntu related plugins/plasmoids ? [11:40] org.kubuntu.something I guess? [11:48] Hiyas all [11:49] Granatier is a clone of the classic Bomberman game, inspired by the work of the Clanbomber clone. [11:49] nice to know === pavlushka is now known as Guest13413 === Guest13413 is now known as pavlushka [12:35] http://i.imgur.com/uz9P9Hs.png [12:35] * soee wonders if it is possible to grab system version automatically [12:55] http://i.imgur.com/tiWUz35.png [12:59] soee: kdevelop5 is pretty stable now, almost ready for release [14:04] soee: are you making an installer? [14:04] or welcome screen for first login? [14:05] eek. wall of PIM red! [14:06] clivejo: some attempt to create simple slideshow/welcome screen as a widget [14:06] acheronuk: mostly all PIM stuff now [14:07] wish could get cantor out of the way [14:07] yep, running out of other stuff to fix! [14:07] hint hint, nudge nudge, kick up the backside! [14:08] I think Simon is preoccupied with QtWebEngine and it dep [14:08] what is the story with libindi-dev? [14:08] for kstars [14:08] Still in proposed? [14:09] I saw v 1.2 stick there, but hoped it would migrate [14:09] could we maybe do a test build of the version in proposed and put it in unstable? [14:10] * clivejo wonders if unstable has proposed enabled [14:10] I can't see why not, but better check..... [14:10] it didn't the others day, hence kstars failed again [14:11] I didn't realise, so it was a bit wtf? when it failed [14:12] !info libindi-dev [14:12] libindi-dev (source: libindi): Instrument-Neutral Device Interface library -- development files. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.1.0-1ubuntu2 (yakkety), package size 231 kB, installed size 1119 kB [14:12] whatever that is [14:21] maybe those PIM packages could be disabled and the list used to plan what we are holding back from Apps 16.08 [14:27] acheronuk: do you have kstars locally? [14:28] if you do can you bump libindi-dev (>= 1.2~), [14:32] done I think [14:35] do you gusy have any proposition what should be on welcome slides? [14:40] soee: Id like to see something like that other flavour [14:42] there was a discussion in here about it, but not I cant remember the name of it! [14:44] hmmm... I'm putting most of my marble changes in 1 commit. should I have staggered them? [14:46] in Debian yes you probably should, in Kubuntu Id just use one commit [14:49] OK. this builds locally, so...... [14:49] what builds locally? [14:49] marble [14:49] oh cool [14:50] will need some lintian overides and a few other things changing still. [14:51] * acheronuk waits for that to crash and burn! [14:56] * clivejo goes to do another hour or so of power washing now his hands have stopped vibrating [14:57] kdeconnect is at version 1.0 [14:57] about time too! [14:57] thought we would have a 0.9.90 [14:58] I keep trying it every so ofetn, but somehow always end up giving up on it as not quite worth it [16:09] yofel, clivejo: in addition to my plans for the build depend bumping system we discussed I also found other flaw which I would like to fix, but it will take some time [16:10] from kconfigwidgets debian/control: [16:11] https://paste.kde.org/phuq1fwvm [16:11] ↑ these version should be bumped too [16:11] but the current stuff doesn't [16:17] http://i.imgur.com/CLMSoVp.png [16:32] whooooo! a whole 1 package migrated -> breeze-icon-theme (4:5.24.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.10~ppa1 => 4:5.24.0-0ubuntu1) [16:36] what ya doin' maaan ? :) [16:45] http://i.imgur.com/NoFTlyA.png [16:46] what is that? [16:47] ahoneybun: im testing how welcom screen/slideshow will work as a Plasma widget [16:47] mm [16:48] the main purpose is to have one slide where user will have backports ppa explained and option to add it automaticaaly to his system [16:48] so a welcome screen nice [16:50] is that hosted anywhere yet soee? [16:51] ahoneybun: no, i'm working on it on my laptop. Need to learn a bit qtquick [16:56] kj [17:13] hello! :) [17:22] hiho [17:39] quiet today :D [19:04] o/ [19:04] I'll be around for a couple mins [19:05] tsimonq2: in that case, on snaps: http://paste.ubuntu.com/21546329/ [19:05] wtf? [19:06] wtf? [19:06] so you are running a snap? [19:06] acheronuk: ask on #snappy [19:07] I have. no answer yet [19:07] and you popped your head up! ;) [19:07] I'll work it out [19:33] soee: ping [19:34] clivejo: sup? [19:34] https://bitbucket.org/ubuntu-mate/ubuntu-mate-welcome [19:34] thats the welcome screen I was talking about earlier [19:36] http://i1-news.softpedia-static.com/images/news2/ubuntu-mate-16-04-launches-as-the-first-ever-lts-release-here-s-what-s-new-503262-7.jpg [19:36] yup but i would liek to have it done in qtquick [19:37] http://i.imgur.com/X07nxqv.png [19:52] launchpad ate my package :O [19:53] no rejection message, nothing [19:53] it killed my kittens too [19:54] blaze: I've have had that happen a few times [19:54] acheronuk: fancy doing the symbols on okteta [19:54] https://launchpadlibrarian.net/275756159/buildlog_ubuntu-yakkety-amd64.okteta_4%3A16.04.3+p16.10+git20160730.0041-0_BUILDING.txt.gz [19:55] I looked at those, then slowly backed away.... [19:56] clivejo: I'm trying to knock some sense into cantor [19:56] * acheronuk gives up on snappy [19:58] tsimonq2: are you succeeding? [19:59] acheronuk: well turns out the libraries it was complaining about in dh_install were actually already included in cantor-dev.install [19:59] MERGE FAILURE [19:59] on it! [20:00] grr seems like it's an internal erorr [20:00] *error [20:00] nah, leave that one! [20:00] alright [20:00] * tsimonq2 steps away and lets clivejo get it [20:00] its still looking on debian [20:01] needs moved to LP [20:07] I'm off for now, but I'm close with cantor [20:07] o/ [20:15] tsimonq2: ok [21:21] No wonder marble rarely builds. That's twice in the last 24hs that it's had code changes resulting in new or missing symbols. You fix it, and by the time you do it's already broken again! [21:22] * clivejo nods knowingly [21:31] http://www.gifbin.com/bin/032010/1269602901_no-no-no.gif [21:45] http://i.imgur.com/i5LNZnj.png [21:52] whats the red and black mess in the top left [22:05] holy moly [22:05] more missing symbols# [22:06] What??????????? [22:07] https://quickgit.kde.org/?p=marble.git&a=commit&h=b5dc725832839986048f64ced12c6491cdb954a1 [22:07] Honestly, I'm going to work out when that guy sleeps, and fix it THEN! [22:10] * clivejo giggles [22:10] It's symbol slaughter in that commit! [22:12] sounds like an interesting hobby [22:12] I might become a symbols slaughterer [22:13] I'm leaving that alone tonight now [22:13] has anyone tried a wayland session in YY? [22:13] not yet [22:15] * clivejo wonders how you do it [22:15] hmm [22:19] grep-aptavail -FDepends libmarblewidget-qt5-23 | grep ^Package | sort -u [22:19] Package: libmarble-dev [22:19] Package: marble [22:19] Package: marble-plugins [22:19] Package: marble-qt [22:19] I tried wayland in YY on my laptop. Touchpad does not work very well. [22:19] SRLSY [22:20] DarinMiller: how to you switch over? [22:20] clivejo, acheronuk: am I mistaken or ... nothing but marble uses that library? [22:20] Install the wayland components, logout and use the session selector to switch to wayland. [22:20] got a how to? [22:21] It's just an alternate session is it not? [22:21] and things either work or are broken? [22:21] No. I used a package manager to find the wayland compoents. Just a sec I will grab my laptop and let you know what they are... [22:22] Yes, alternate session. [22:22] santa_: libkgeomap needs libmarble-dev [22:22] I attempted on my intel video only box... [22:22] sudo apt install plasma-workspace-wayland [22:23] that's one of them.... [22:23] that seems to pull the necessary components? [22:23] I assmed that one pulls in everything else needed? [22:23] snap [22:24] The following additional packages will be installed: [22:24] kwin-wayland kwin-wayland-backend-drm xwayland [22:24] gonna log out and try it [22:25] I also installed qtwayland, wayland-protocols kwwin-wayland [22:25] err. kaywayland-integration [22:25] * acheronuk waits to see if this breaks clivejos desktop [22:26] NVidia proprietary installed? [22:26] clivejo: but libkgeomap wasn't skipped in kubuntu? I have no idea why by the way [22:27] When yofel asked if you are evil, you soooo lied! [22:28] I said "only on Friday" [22:28] but maybe I meant Saturday... [22:29] Wayland works much better with a mouse. The tap to touch on the touchpad was not working when I tried it a few days ago... [22:30] * soee don understand how those plasmois icons work :< [22:31] Wayland: panel does not autohide nor will windows cover... useable but a lot of little paper cuts.... [22:31] nope, cant log in [22:32] * DarinMiller wishes he could help soee, but knows nothing about plasmoid icons... [22:32] * clivejo thinks hes got a kilo of sand in his hair [22:32] clivejo: are you using nvidia proprietary drivers? [22:32] yes [22:33] it flashes up the NVidia logo and puts me back to the log in page [22:33] can't do that yet.... [22:34] where did you come from? ^^^^^^^^^^^^ [22:34] * clivejo kicks marble [22:35] I tried a couple months ago using Nvidia with nuveau? and could not login either. Intel video cards work though.... [22:35] it retries automatically [22:35] 3 times I think [22:35] oh. [22:35] I assumed it would not do that with an actual build failure, but fair enough [22:36] it cant tell the difference between LP being a *beep* and a failed build [22:38] is that the LP API's fault? [22:40] it's a bloody workaround for all issues [22:40] API should not be much of a prolem anymore, there's a multi-retry-after-sleep around all API calls now, so unless LP is actually *down* for more than 5 minutes, that should not error out anymore [22:41] fetching from KDE is also properly throttled now, so that's good [22:41] yofel: o/ [22:41] the oddball memory allocation issues are still a problem, as is excessive dput concurrency [22:41] former I'm clueless about, latter needs a semaphore accessible from the containers [22:42] the git sycamore, can it be disabled for other git repos? [22:42] why? [22:42] well, it operates on a per-host basis as far as I can see [22:42] seems to be messing up with the libkolab repos [22:42] so it should only throttle kde and lp [22:43] http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_libkolabxml/ [22:43] or it messes up kolab because that's not configured... [22:43] oh, it has to be configured? [22:44] not quite sure, but it has git.kde.org and git.launchpad.net in the code [22:45] right, it will error out on anything that's not on kde or launchpad [22:46] clivejo: https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ci-admins/kubuntu-ci/+git/pangea-tooling/tree/git-monitor/git [22:47] I wonder if adding an 'other' option would make sense... [22:47] that would make it at least not fail [22:55] hm, why didn't that work.. [22:56] oh, that's also wired in the semaphore [22:56] next try [22:57] :w [22:57] oops [22:58] clivejo: fixed [22:58] how did you fix it? [22:59] added an :other symbol that's the default for all not configured hosts [22:59] meaning all random hosts are throttled through the same semaphore, but that's better than failing [22:59] where did you add that? [22:59] let me commit it [23:01] clivejo: https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ci-admins/kubuntu-ci/+git/pangea-tooling/commit/?id=fd331c220675e131aef86aaa1fc2a46738bbf57f [23:01] I see it :) [23:01] now let me deploy that everywhere [23:01] does KCI automatically pick that up? [23:02] no, auto-deploy is broken right now [23:02] and you can't even auto-deploy that, as the monitor service needs to be restarted on every host [23:02] jenkins can't do that [23:05] that merger is on swy-01 [23:06] how did you move it to run on linode? [23:06] you don't. The scheduler does that [23:07] oh [23:07] you *can* limit projects to certain slaves if you need to [23:07] some mgmt jobs are e.g. limited to master [23:19] oh no! [23:25] 23:21:57 stderr: fatal: remote error: Repository '~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/libkolabxml' not found. ? ^^ [23:25] yes, I accidently mirrored libkolab into it :( [23:26] lol [23:26] so I deleted it and will copy it across again [23:26] not funny :P [23:28] http://i.imgur.com/5zKXz.gif