[01:18] <mate|58650> Hi there.
[01:19] <mate|58650> sslove:  It works like you said. Thanks... I hope you are who helped me a few hours ago.
[01:22] <randall> '''''''
[01:22] <ouroumov> He is
[01:29] <sslove> hey
[01:29] <sslove> cool, did u use startup disk creator?
[01:30] <Stirner> hey ouroumov you helped me too. I install ubuntu mate. Do you remember? You taught me a new command which i saw hardware specifications
[01:30] <ouroumov> Stirner, glad we could help
[01:32] <Stirner> yes sslove. It was the best and easiest solution.
[01:32] <sslove> hahaha, and u had it all along
[01:32] <sslove> glad it worked
[01:38] <Stirner> I was working on it two hours... and nothin'! haha. Without doubt if you don't know how search information you won't solve your problems...
[02:12] <DarkPsydeLord> good night!
[02:14] <ouroumov> yes it is
[02:16] <DarkPsydeLord> why is that ?
[07:10] <fran> wenas
[09:07] <mreza> hi. I am new in ubuntu mate and respberry pi. Can you help me and order me a tutorial for bigginers?
[09:09] <Akuli> https://www.google.com/search?q=raspberry+pi+ubuntu+mate+tutorial
[09:13] <Akuli> Can someone add something like "please be patient" to the /topic? it'd be very useful
[09:47] <mate|78591> hello
[09:47] <mate|78591> anybody help me work with octave
[09:48] <Akuli> what is it?
[09:48] <mate|78591> gnu octave
[09:48] <mate|78591> an app to work with mathematics
[09:48] <mate|78591> and calculations
[09:48] <Akuli> seems more like a programming language to me
[09:48] <mate|78591> yep
[09:49] <mate|78591> u got it
[09:49] <Akuli> does it have an interactive prompt like python has?
[09:49] <mate|78591> i m totally new to such language
[09:49] <mate|78591> gnu octave is my first try
[09:50] <Akuli> why are you interested in it instead of a more general-purpose language, like python?
[09:50] <mate|78591> ok let mne know how to get pythbon first then
[09:50] <mate|78591> \python
[09:50] <Akuli> you already have it
[09:51] <Akuli> type python3 to terminal and get started
[09:51] <mate|78591> ok
[09:51] <mate|78591> now tell me how it works
[09:51] <mate|78591> please
[09:52] <Akuli> the interactive interpreter is fun, you just type a command and it runs it
[09:52] <Akuli> print("hello world")
[09:52] <mate|78591> ok
[09:52] <mate|78591> do it works with functions and graphs
[09:53] <Akuli> yes, you want a module for that
[09:53] <Akuli> matplotlib is a popular one
[09:53] <mate|78591> how to get that
[09:53] <mate|78591> is it inbuilt?
[09:53] <mate|78591> or default in ubuntu
[09:53] <Akuli> you want to learn the language first, then using modules :)
[09:53] <mate|78591> ok
[09:54] <mate|78591> i guess u will sure to drag me to most basics at once
[09:54] <mate|78591> like it..........
[09:54] <Akuli> the official python tutorial: https://docs.python.org/3/tutorial/
[09:54] <mate|78591> and thank you
[09:54] <Akuli> you can just start at chapter 3
[09:54] <mate|78591> ok
[09:55] <mate|78591> thank you......... its a great help
[09:55] <mate|78591> i m starting to work on it
[09:55] <mate|78591> thank you again
[09:56] <mate|78591> i would like to download that in pdf. help please
[09:56] <Akuli> i believe its somewhere
[09:56] <Akuli> let me check
[09:56] <mate|78591> ok
[09:57] <ouroumov> mate|78591, there's a .zip of the HTML so you can have a browsable local version
[09:57] <ouroumov> Isn't it better?
[09:57] <mate|78591> ok thank you
[09:58] <Akuli> mate|78591, you want tutorial.pdf in this https://docs.python.org/3/archives/python-3.5.2-docs-pdf-letter.zip
[10:06] <Akuli> the zip contains a lot of other useful stuff too, basically everything you'll ever need other than stackoverflow
[10:07] <mate|78591> thank you again
[10:59] <fenns> 23456789-/+*
[12:57] <zengww> hello
[15:03] <jim_> Hi all, Im new to Ubuntu Mate on RasPi3 my mouse drifts runs slowly anyone ou there solved trhis? Thanks
[15:53] <nomic> you can change mouse settings
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[15:58] <Akuli> as you can see it really would be useful
[16:00] <nomic> waited 9 seconds
[16:00] <nomic> no .. 3m
[16:02] <Nekroide> hi
[16:03] <Nekroide> i need help... with my screen resolution
[16:05] <Nekroide> achieve everything with xrandt set but managed not save settings
[16:06] <Nekroide> so that when you restart the configuration load
[17:05] <dirk__> Hi, could somebody help me.
[17:06] <dirk__> looked on every forum about the analog sound port. but they don't have the right answer.
[17:06] <dirk__> Should I update the card or something? I have a rapsberry 3. Thanks in advance ;)
[17:42] <randall> so I ctrl+alt+F1 so I could kill a process and get control of my computer and this happened http://i.imgur.com/oXH338O.jpg
[17:45] <ali1234> that's probably going on all the time
[17:46] <ali1234> rtl8196 is a gigabit ethernet chip
[17:46] <ali1234> or it could be a side effect of whatever process hung
[17:48] <sslove> wow that is cool ubuntu COF ascii art
[17:57] <randall> thing is I'm not even using a realtec chip to connect, the wifi card is something different, can't remember what, but it's not realtec
[17:58] <Akuli> ali1234, try another tty
[17:58] <Akuli> you're in tty one since you hit Ctrl+Alt+F1, try tty 2
[17:58] <Akuli> i believe messages from the kernel end up in tty1
[18:04] <bekks> Nope, they end up either nowhere or in tty8.
[18:08] <randall> ok
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[18:31] <nomic> i don't think it's possible to put mate on a pc from linux -- this is the 2nd major time I have tried it -- session, trying it .. all their installations are not working
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[18:31] <nomic> you are flooding
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[18:31] <bekks> stop it.
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[18:32] <bekks> Ignore set.
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[18:34] <nomic> OOOOOOOOOOOOOPS
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[18:36] <nomic> ignored
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[18:56] <rahtgaz> do we require freenode registration to join this channel? That would help with these kids
[18:57] <rahtgaz> some, at least
[19:06] <Akuli> i definitely don't want that
[19:07] <Akuli> then people who don't have the time/energy to register wouldn't get any help :(
[19:07] <Akuli> we need a bot that detects spamming like this, linux mint channels have one
[19:07] <rahtgaz> It's becoming a staple among many irc channels though. But I do see your point
[19:09] <Akuli> it is, and i don't like that. look at #python, for example
[19:10] <rahtgaz> #ubuntu too I reckon. But it's really not that much different from registering on the ubuntu-mate forums.
[19:11] <rahtgaz> in any case, before you say it, irc is not the web, I agree :)
[19:24] <nomic> is it still going on
[19:24] <nomic> have it ignored
[19:24] <rahtgaz> no. it ended
[19:24] <nomic> imhaving trouble writing the write iso to a dvd
[19:24] <nomic> i have not been able to make a bootable usb
[19:25] <nomic> using dd
[19:25] <bekks> How did you try?
[19:26] <nomic>   sudo dd if=ubuntu-mate-16.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso of=/dev/sdc1 bs=1M
[19:26] <bekks> that will not work.
[19:26] <nomic> sdc1=usb
[19:26] <nomic> y not
[19:26] <nomic> it iddn't work
[19:26] <nomic> did not
[19:26] <bekks> because you need to specify the entire usb device, not a partition.
[19:26] <nomic> i do not understand
[19:26] <nomic> /dev/sdc1 = usb device
[19:27] <bekks> wrong: sudo dd if=ubuntu-mate-16.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso of=/dev/sdc1 bs=1M
[19:27] <bekks> right: sudo dd if=ubuntu-mate-16.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso of=/dev/sdc bs=1M
[19:27] <nomic> i go in gnome-disks - it is /dev/sdc1
[19:27] <nomic> wow
[19:27] <nomic> really
[19:27] <nomic> ok
[19:27] <nomic> this may give ma a usb
[19:27] <bekks> It will.
[19:27] <rahtgaz> :)
[19:27] <nomic> c1 = partition?
[19:27] <bekks> yes.
[19:27] <nomic> 1.
[19:27] <nomic> ty expert
[19:27] <nomic> brb
[19:27] <rahtgaz> yes. partitions are numbered
[19:29] <nomic> i just looked @ the dev on gnome-disks
[19:29] <bekks> forget gnome-disks :)
[19:30] <nomic> y did gnome-disks show "sdb1"
[19:31] <bekks> sdb1 is the first partition of the device sdb.
[19:31] <nomic> ok thanks
[19:32] <rahtgaz> in any case you are right, nomic. It should never show /dev/sdb1 under a "device" label
[19:32] <bekks> Of course it should. sdbc1 is a block device too.
[19:36] <nomic> boots
[19:36] <nomic> ty
[19:37] <bekks> you're welcome :)
[19:42] <nomic> mebbe means I ditch xubuntu
[19:42] <nomic> issues
[19:44] <bekks> Define "issues".
[19:44] <nomic> nfs connection problem now between xub 16.04 and mate 16.04
[19:44] <nomic> is one
[19:44] <bekks> Define "connection problem" :)
[19:44] <nomic> won't connect with fstab
[19:44] <bekks> We can help you with specific issues only, not with generic terms :)
[19:44] <nomic> same settings
[19:45] <nomic> connect on boot
[19:45] <bekks> "wont connect" - means what?
[19:45] <nomic> will not mount
[19:45] <nomic> as fstabl should on boot
[19:45] <nomic> what its for
[19:45] <bekks> Depends on your fstab entry.
[19:45] <nomic> should be sam eas it was in 14.04
[19:45] <nomic> lts
[19:45] <bekks> What is your fstab entry?
[19:46] <nomic> 192.168.1.70:/home/dan/m /home/dan/m nfs auto,noatime,rsize=32768,wsize=32768,intr
[19:46] <bekks> That will not work.
[19:46] <nomic> works 14.04
[19:46] <nomic> not 16.04
[19:46] <bekks> your fstab is evaluated before the network is up
[19:46] <bekks> Add "_netdev" before "auto".
[19:47] <nomic> _netdev,auto?
[19:47] <nomic> _netdev?  underscore?
[19:47] <bekks> 192.168.1.70:/home/dan/m /home/dan/m nfs _netdev,auto,noatime,rsize=32768,wsize=32768,intr
[19:47] <nomic> ok
[19:47] <bekks> Yes, with an underscore.
[19:47] <nomic> thnks
[19:48]  * nomic files this chat
[19:54] <raenen> djgifsedgjizrdh
[21:00] <Tintomatic> I upgraded 14.04-->16.04. Now, when I log in I get the wallpaper and a mouse curser & nothing else. I have to drop into a console session and kill im-launch.
[21:01] <Tintomatic> I installed xfce and that works fine, but I really want Mate back!
[21:10] <YankDownUnder> Tintomatic: Have you considered looking into your ~/.config directory and renaming some of the "Mate" related folders to see if that will resolve the issue? Sometimes old configs and prefs will screw up the new "Mate", hmm...
[21:37] <Tintomatic> Yankee: I created a new user, so that there would be no old configs in the way.
[21:50] <YankDownUnder> Tintomatic: And with the "new user" - you're still not getting "Mate" at all?
[22:14] <nomic> ran mate on a dell latitude .. going back to xubuntu -- many issues
[22:14] <nomic> bad ones
[22:15] <nomic> not set up out of the box to run on such a standard machine (or will not)
[22:15] <nomic> xubuntu is
[22:15] <nomic> doesn't even recognise the screen
[22:15] <nomic> screen flickers
[22:15] <nomic> mouse trackpad problems, even iwth the xubuntu settings (synclient)
[22:15] <nunephar> hali
[22:15] <YankDownUnder> nomic: Safe to assume you've installed all the proper graphics drivers and the likes?
[22:15] <bekks> enter automatically presses itself in mid-sentence
[22:15] <nomic> would I have to seek them out
[22:16] <bekks> thats a severe issue, indeed.
[22:16] <nomic> are you an op bekks
[22:16] <bekks> no, why?
[22:16] <nomic> so I can safely ignore your comment
[22:17] <nomic> re: enter
[22:17] <bekks> I dont need to be an p to be annoyed by such a behaviour.
[22:17] <bekks> And I dont need to be an op to set you on my ignore list.
[22:17] <nomic> it annoys you
[22:17] <bekks> done.
[22:17] <YankDownUnder> Gosh it's a lovely Sunday morning - must be time for more coffee...egads...
[22:18] <nomic> sunday = where
[22:18] <YankDownUnder> Australia. Where the future starts before dispersing to the rest of the world. :)
[22:19] <YankDownUnder> BTW, the world hasn't ended. At least today.
[22:19]  * nomic wonders if dd (write to usb key) .. can hang
[22:20] <YankDownUnder> nomic: It can appear to hang...for a long time, sometimes...
[22:20] <nomic> 1 thing that has been hanging -- brasero, to write the ubuntu mate 64 image (iso)
[22:21] <nomic> definitely hangs up @ end .. (verifying checksum)
[22:21] <nomic> k. didn't hang 1241513984 bytes (1.2 GB) copied, 970.966 s, 1.3 MB/s
[22:22] <YankDownUnder> nomic: You're using Brasero to write to a USB, or....?
[22:22] <nomic> dvd
[22:22] <nomic> what is advised on the ubuntu site "installation"
[22:22] <nomic> 'use brasero'
[22:22] <YankDownUnder> AH...right oh...right oh...and the ISO is verified/checked again the MD5 sum, yes?
[22:22] <nomic> yes, I did check it
[22:23] <nomic> brasero from an xubuntu 14.04
[22:23] <nomic> which is a clean copy -- there is a problem, IMO
[22:23] <YankDownUnder> The ISO? Or Brasero?
[22:24] <nomic> iso/brasero/xubuntu ...I would think the iso/brasero
[22:25] <DarkPsydeLord> Hello!
[22:25] <YankDownUnder> nomic: I haven't done an install with a DVD/CD in a long long time - I generally trust USB (after they've been formatted, repartitioned, checked)
[22:40] <nomic> strange .. got earlier usb key .. & later 1 (sandisk, tdk) .. earlier 1 (sandisk) .. when writing the little light flickers  -- I like that better .. the sandisk light flashes
[22:41] <YankDownUnder> "Oooooo....shiny! Oooooo.....lights!" heheheheh - all good all good...hehehehe...
[22:43] <DarkPsydeLord> technology
[22:43] <DarkPsydeLord> :)
[22:44] <nomic> .
[22:45] <nomic> & that went faster- which means that something was wrong with write to lst usb key .. musta been cos it was trying to write to filesystem
[22:45] <nomic> this was formatted
[22:45] <nomic> mebbe the other one flashes too
[22:49] <YankDownUnder> Flashy lights are cool...hehehe...EITHER WHICH, it appears to have moved along faster - that's a good thing.
[22:50] <nomic> don't think it does .. cos installed mate with it earlier -- didn't see flashing
[22:51] <nomic> so much faster, installing from usb, vs. dvd
[22:52] <nomic> usb ->ssd = zippy
[22:53]  * YankDownUnder likes SSD's heaps
[23:54] <DarkPsydeLord> ok so
[23:55] <DarkPsydeLord> im about to use a vm to create a multiboot system
[23:55] <DarkPsydeLord> any advice?