[00:00] <Shadow_7> WIthout "true" for bitmap fonts, I cannot use face names for custom fonts with xclock
[00:01] <OerHeks> Mitchell92,  With Chrome 46 you'll need to click the mic, Google killed the feature because very few users were speaking to their computers. Privacy concerns were also an issue,
[00:01] <Shadow_7> Under debian, dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig-config lets me choose in a dialog to use bitmap fonts.  Under ubuntu, there is not such output or option.
[00:02] <OerHeks> now it listens 5 seconds
[00:02] <Mitchell92> ok. i'm looking to use it for text messages, not phone calls... i have an obitalk voip adapter that i use for that number.
[00:04] <OerHeks> google hangout?
[00:06] <danielthebague> Bashing-om, thanks for your help anyway!! and good night
[00:13] <Debianppt> how do you install a package that is still in testing in ubuntu?
[00:16] <OerHeks> Debianppt, in testing/in proposed?
[00:16] <Debianppt> not sure it is hexchat-otr
[00:16] <Debianppt> i thought it was testing
[00:17] <OerHeks> hmm i find it in next release, yakety http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=hexchat-otr
[00:17] <xangua> You are not in Kansas anymore
[00:19] <Debianppt> yes how do i download that one oerheks
[00:19] <Debianppt> what you mean next ubuntu major release?
[00:19] <OerHeks> see that url
[00:20] <Debianppt> yes i saw it
[00:20] <OerHeks> strange, as their github https://github.com/adhux/hexchat-otr is 2 years ago, and gives a link to cypherpunks
[00:20] <Debianppt> im new to ubuntu
[00:20] <Debianppt> simply downloading source should work right oerheks
[00:20] <reisio> Debianppt: what are you talking about testing
[00:21] <Debianppt> yes
[00:21] <OerHeks> or is it this one? https://github.com/TingPing/hexchat-otr
[00:21] <Debianppt> i want to download the ubuntu testing package hexchat-otr
[00:21] <reisio> Debianppt: there is no such thing as ubuntu testing
[00:21] <reisio> Debianppt: where is this package you're talking about?
[00:21] <Debianppt> tingpin said this one http://packages.ubuntu.com/yakkety/hexchat-otr
[00:21] <Debianppt> that package
[00:22] <Debianppt> how do i download that
[00:22] <OerHeks> http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/yakkety/hexchat-otr build it yourself then, i have no clue why it is not available in supported releases
[00:22] <reisio> Debianppt: links at bottom left
[00:22] <reisio> probably got lost in xchat->hexchat shuffle
[00:23] <Debianppt> links to what
[00:23] <reisio> you can get xchat-otr for 12.04, for example
[00:23] <Debianppt> what should i look for
[00:23] <reisio> Debianppt: downloads
[00:23] <Debianppt> k
[00:23] <Debianppt> and?
[00:23] <Debianppt> simply download and run?
[00:23] <reisio> kind of
[00:23] <reisio> Debianppt: what version of ubuntu are you on?
[00:23] <Debianppt> the latest
[00:23] <Techspectre> If a server has a RAID controller failure that somehow wipes the drives, is it possible that data may be recoverable with ddrescue?
[00:23] <reisio> Debianppt: that isn't a version
[00:23] <Debianppt> yes it is
[00:24] <Debianppt> lol
[00:24] <reisio> Techspectre: not if it actually wiped them, no
[00:24] <reisio> wiped is wiped
[00:24] <Debianppt> whatever the latest is that is the version :P
[00:24] <Debianppt> hang on
[00:24] <reisio> Techspectre: if it merely destroyed the filesystems/partition table in some trivial way, possibly
[00:24] <Techspectre> reisio, that sounds like a more likely scenario
[00:24] <reisio> Debianppt: that differs depending on how informed you are :D
[00:24] <reisio> Techspectre: yes most likely
[00:25] <reisio> Techspectre: for example if your raid merely folded, which is what all raids do
[00:25] <Debianppt> reisio i just upated like 4 days ago buddy :)
[00:25] <reisio> Debianppt: to what? :p
[00:25] <Debianppt> what is the command prompt for version
[00:25] <reisio> Debianppt: cat /etc/*release* /etc/*version*
[00:26] <Debianppt> did not work
[00:26] <Debianppt> your going to find out i have the latest version
[00:26] <Debianppt> lol
[00:27] <Debianppt> assume i have the lastest version
[00:27] <Debianppt> what is the instructions
[00:27] <AdamEternal> Hey, I want to install Xubuntu, but I also want to keep my Windows XP OS for when I need it. How do I partition my hard drive for this when installing Xubuntu? http://i.stack.imgur.com/cuCJm.jpg
[00:27] <Debianppt> anyone know how to tell me to install this package http://packages.ubuntu.com/yakkety/hexchat-otr
[00:30] <AdamEternal> If I partition my hard drive, does it wipe my current OS?
[00:31] <alchemistswl> AdamEternal depends. I take you have WIN as your primary?
[00:31] <AdamEternal> alchemistswl What is WIN?
[00:32] <alchemistswl> Windows, sorry.
[00:32] <AdamEternal> Windows. Yes.
[00:32] <roothorick> why does do-release-upgrade want to remove aptitude?
[00:32] <alchemistswl> Just use the path way that Ubuntu suggest when you already have Microsoft Windows installed?
[00:32] <roothorick> for that matter, why can't it lease alone Kodi and let me fix that later?
[00:32] <AdamEternal> What pathway? What step of installation is that?
[00:33] <AdamEternal> Is it somewhere on the step I linked?
[00:33] <AdamEternal> I know next to nothing about Linux.
[00:34] <alchemistswl> Normally if you install Ubuntu over the graphical installer, it will see that you already have Windows installed, you check that box to keep both.
[00:35] <AdamEternal> alchemistswl When I click "New Partition Table...", it says something about wiping the current partition table. Does that mean it'll wipe my current OS or something?
[00:35] <AdamEternal> What is a partition table?
[00:35] <alchemistswl> Yes it will wipe that current partition table. Meaning all the partitions you have on your disk, get wiped.
[00:36] <alchemistswl> But like I said if you use the graphical installer, it should detected that you have Windows already installed and lets you choose to keep both.
[00:36] <AdamEternal> So what is a partition table?
[00:37] <alchemistswl> AdamEternal the partition table says how your whole HDD is partitioned
[00:37] <AdamEternal> So if you get rid of the partition table, everything will meld together?
[00:38] <alchemistswl> For a "normal" user, this means basically loss of all data
[00:38] <AdamEternal> Loss of all data. Shit.
[00:39] <OerHeks> if you don't have a backup of your data, it is not important.
[00:39] <alchemistswl> Theorethically you if you didnt say "yes" to "Write partitioning changes to desk" you are still away from data loss. I dont know what exactly you want to do. So I just do guess work here.
[00:40] <alchemistswl> disk I mean
[00:41] <AdamEternal> I want to use Xubuntu while keeping Windows XP on the side, but I don't have the installation disk for Windows XP. That's pretty much what I'm going for.
[00:41] <roothorick> XP? Why?
[00:41] <AdamEternal> Because that's all I have atm.
[00:42] <AdamEternal> It is the reason I'm trying to safely install Xubuntu.
[00:42] <alchemistswl> what step are you at at the moment?
[00:42] <alchemistswl> what does your screen say to you?
[00:42] <AdamEternal> I got to this step. http://i.stack.imgur.com/cuCJm.jpg
[00:42] <AdamEternal> "Installation type."
[00:43] <AdamEternal> Brb, parrents calling.
[00:43] <alchemistswl> if you go back what does it say?
[00:43] <roothorick> keep that machine off the Internet...
[00:43] <AdamEternal> Go back?
[00:44] <AdamEternal> Should it be different if I go back?
[00:45] <AdamEternal> The Windows XP machine I'm talking about is what I'm using to talk to you, so I'd have to disconnect for a bit.
[00:46] <BrianBro> keep it
[00:46] <AdamEternal> Keep my machine Windows XP?
[00:47] <cfhowlett> using an unsupported OS with zero virus protection?  what could go wrong?
[00:47] <AdamEternal> ^
[00:47] <AdamEternal> I do need Windows XP for some programs and games, but I also want Xubuntu for that reason.
[00:48] <cfhowlett> dual boot.  easy to do.
[00:48] <AdamEternal> Don't I need to install Xubuntu and keep Windows XP in order to dual boot?
[00:49] <cfhowlett> that is the definition of dual boot. dual = 2
[00:49] <AdamEternal> Okay, so I just need to install Xubuntu and keep Windows XP.
[00:49] <roothorick> do-release-upgrade could really handle PPAs better. There's no reason to nuke the system.
[00:49] <reisio> there's usually an 'install alongside' option
[00:50] <AdamEternal> I thought there would be, but I never came across one when I tried.
[00:50] <xangua> roothorick: that's why it's recommended to undo PPAs before you update
[00:50] <xangua> Upgrade
[00:51] <AdamEternal> I'll have another look and see if I missed something.
[00:51] <reisio> what's why? His notion that it should be handled better? I think not :p
[00:52] <reisio> roothorick: what happens, exactly? I don't use PPAs
[00:53] <roothorick> xangua: easier said than done
[00:54] <roothorick> reisio: it disables them completely and tries to remove every package that came from a PPA
[00:54] <reisio> that is odd, wonder why it does that
[00:55] <jf_> hello?
[00:56] <roothorick> crap. ppa-purge just wrecked my laptop.
[00:56] <reisio> 'lo
[00:56] <roothorick> now apt wants to remove half of gnome
[00:56] <xangua> What PPAs?
[00:56] <roothorick> I had one for GCC 4.9 and etc
[00:57] <roothorick> still had the system on the official, what was it 4.6 or whatever
[00:57] <roothorick> it clobbered the system anyway
[00:58] <marquisor> hi
[00:58] <roothorick> I'm going from LTS to LTS, it's supposed to be cleaner than this mess
[00:59] <xangua> What other etc PPAs?
[00:59] <xangua> You're also supposed to not add a thousand PPAs :-P
[00:59] <roothorick> steam, owncloud, Solaar, newer version of Inkscape, OpenJDK
[00:59] <roothorick> not exactly invasive
[00:59] <hack-wizard_> Hey there, I recently got a slightly used 80GB SSD from a friend,  I want to move my root partition to it, but not my home (which is already separate)  I am currently using ss
[01:00] <hack-wizard_> sorry
[01:01] <hack-wizard_> I am currently using LVM for my physical hard drive (at least on the linux side) but I just want to put everything but my home dir on the SSD to make it more efficient
[01:02] <hack-wizard_> should I partition the SSD using LVM and if so how do I make it use that drive first instead of the slower Physical one?
[01:02] <roothorick> well. That's why. I don't have older GCC on here somehow
[01:02] <jf_> What is LVM?
[01:02] <hack-wizard_> Logical Volume Management
[01:03] <jf_> thx
[01:03] <hack-wizard_> supposed to be flexible and expansive, did it so I could adjust the home and root partition sizes if necessary
[01:04] <roothorick> oh. wow. Somehow the trusty official GCC has disappeared from my sources.
[01:09] <sds> so i've got this lenovo x230 that i have just switch from ubuntu 14.04 to 16.04. everything is fine except wifi. kernel thinks my hardware switch is OFF, but pressing it doesn't change status (and other FN keys work as expected). here is the infamous wireless-info script output in case it is usefull (everything seems fine to my eye) https://paste.ubuntu.com/21467527/
[01:10] <sds> anyone know how i could get this hard switch back to on?
[01:16] <roothorick> as a last-ditch effort I'm gonna do-release-upgrade with it still broken to see what happens. Not much point in avoiding breaking it further
[01:18] <roothorick> thankfully I've kept PPAs to a minimum on the one mission critical machine because of the problems they can create
[01:18] <Hammy> Hello Everyone, I have a intergrated AMD Radeon 3100 Graphics card, I have been trying to install it's propriarity drivers. I have searched on google and tried all soultions but it still can not find version.h on my system even when I try to link it. Can anyone provide any help even if it's remote help?
[01:19] <roothorick> "/bin/plymouth: not found" are you kidding me
[01:19] <Bashing-om> Hammy: What release is this ?
[01:20] <Hammy> Bashing-om: xubuntu 16.04 and it's propriortary driver is version amd-driver-installer-catalyst-13.1-legacy-linux-x86.x86_64
[01:20] <AdamEternal> This time, it gave me an option to install alongside.
[01:21] <AdamEternal> The only thing I did different was instead of directly going to install, I tried it then went to install.
[01:21] <roothorick> Hammy: just use amdgpu. fglrx has been abandoned.
[01:21] <AdamEternal> You guys are patient. That's wonderful. Thank you.
[01:22] <Bashing-om> Hammy: Nope; no propritary driver for AMD in 16.04 . See the release notes : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes .
[01:23] <roothorick> Hammy: and not directly by Ubuntu, mind. AMD itself has deprecated the old proprietary driver. If you insist on proprietary there's AMDGPU PRO, but it's mostly the same underneath
[01:23] <Hammy> roothorick: where can I get amdgpu and or install it?
[01:23] <roothorick> Hammy: should already be installed
[01:23] <roothorick> look at glxinfo
[01:24] <tgm4883> I'd be surprised if the AMD Radeon 3100 was supported by the AMDGPU driver
[01:24] <Hammy> well so far it is working
[01:25] <Hammy> I'm able to get on 3d run games
[01:25] <Hammy> just doesn't work the worlds greatest
[01:25] <tgm4883> Hammy: sure you're running AMDGPU and not radeon?
[01:25] <Hammy> tgm4883: No I am not sure, still kind of rusty on a few things with Ubuntu like checking what driver I am running
[01:27] <tgm4883> Hammy: "lshw -c video | grep driver"
[01:28] <Hammy> tgm4883:  configuration: driver=radeon latency=0
[01:28] <tgm4883> looks like the radeon driver
[01:28] <Hammy> so I am running radeon
[01:28] <Hammy> is there anyway to update this?
[01:28] <tgm4883> Hammy: update it to what?
[01:29] <Hammy> tgm4883: to try the ADMGPU
[01:29] <Hammy> otherwise I assume I am stuck with what I have
[01:29] <tgm4883> that doesn't support your card
[01:29] <Hammy> Ok
[01:30] <Hammy> well then the fglrx is all I can find that will support it but it's being a royal pain installing. So I guess for now I'll make due with this, unless you guys know what version ubuntu this card was used under? I assume it's a obsolete version ow.
[01:30] <Hammy> now*
[01:33] <Hammy> I found it,
[01:33] <roothorick> the 3100 is the bottom end of a very old series, I wouldn't expect much
[01:33] <Hammy> thanks guys you been a big help
[01:36] <sarek> Im trying to search a file for a string then move it to a certain folder, but <grep -rnw . -e "passthepopcorn" -exec cp -rf ~/Downloads/movies/ {} \;> is not working. Any help would be greatly appreciated
[01:39] <balli> How to remove/uninstall apps which are taking up the space even after uninstalling them from Ubuntu Touch Phone device?
[01:43] <pushpop> '
[01:43] <ubuntsergio> Good Eveing
[01:44] <ubuntsergio> How is everyone doing?
[01:44] <cfhowlett> !touch | balli, ask the other channel
[01:45] <balli> ubottu,thanks
[01:46] <ubuntsergio> can you help me wiht one question?
[01:46] <cfhowlett> !ask | ubuntsergio
[01:46] <tacomon_> [Chuy] it deppends
[01:47] <ubuntsergio> Thanks Cfw and Tacomon
[01:49] <ubuntsergio> Today, I just turned my pc on today,  and it asked me to upgrade from  Ubuntu 14.04 to 16.04 without using  usual ubuntu sofware center, should that be normal?
[01:52] <ubuntsergio> I just got too used to either updating my ubunt using the software center or the terminal, so it looked odd to me
[01:53] <Ubuntu_Fail> Hello! I'm having trouble with Nvidia on Ubuntu 16.04. I have a GeFroce 965M and intel graphics (Skylake i7-6500U). Nouveau drivers are slow, and I'v etried various Nvidia drivers (367.35, 364, etc) Iand I can't get them to work - I get choppy video, very slow FPS.
[01:56] <Ubuntu_Fail> what's worse is I had great performance back in May, with nvidia 352 - but even when I reinstall that version, I still have slow graphics...
[01:58] <avionic> hello
[01:58] <telboon> nice.. 16.04 is out for apt-get already
[01:59] <ubuntsergio> Hello, Ubuntu Fail, I think that once you updated  some  hardware may not properly recognized by the system, have you tried installing the driver from the package place, using the same one you used before, it may not be supported by default in  your service
[02:00] <Ubuntu_Fail> yes - I'm using graphics-ppa ; ive tried installing, purging, reinstalling; I've also tried removing the ppa and using the ubuntu-drivers, still no luck
[02:01] <Ubuntu_Fail> what's weird is that when I tried doing other changes - eg I removed virtualbox (I host on my ubuntu system), it ran well for one boot, and then went back to horrible. I think there is some kernel/header/config issue that's not acting right
[02:04] <holmser> I'm trying to build a custom install thumbdrive for an embedded project
[02:05] <holmser> essentially what I need is to add the base ubuntu-desktop packages (no recommends) onto the iso for an offline installation
[02:05] <holmser> Is anyone aware of a tool that would build this easily?  Or way to take an already configured version of the OS and just include those packages?
[02:06] <holmser> most of the information that I've found makes this process seem pretty complicated
[02:06] <hades|2> how to run latest amd64-all-snap.img + LXD Containers ?
[02:08] <roothorick> one of three machines upgrade. The one I expected to be the hardest, naively.
[02:08] <roothorick> *upgraded
[02:11] <roothorick> holmser: what I did is install Server and then add/remove metapackages to get what I want, followed by autoremove
[02:11] <roothorick> messy, but it gets the job done with minimal manual work
[02:12] <Grizzly10> im looking for a free VPN
[02:13] <telboon> weird. is 16.04 out for upgrade already?
[02:13] <telboon> i managed to apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:13] <telboon> but apparnetly it wasn't 16.04
[02:13] <roothorick> 16.04.1 went out yesterday, along with the LTS update notification
[02:13] <roothorick> yeah, that's not what dist-upgrade does
[02:14] <telboon> ah
[02:14] <roothorick> I'm having a gay ol' time upgrading my rather custom setups
[02:14] <telboon> so is 16.04 out for upgrade for 14.04?
[02:14] <hades|2> anyone could help me with latest ubuntu-core ? it s such a mess...
[02:14] <roothorick> 16.04.1, technically, but yes
[02:15] <Grizzly10> I tried to download cyberghost VPN does enyone know how to do it?
[02:16] <holmser> roothorick: you're talking about just getting the updates over the network?
[02:16] <telboon> how do i upgrade to 16.04 from 14.04?
[02:16] <holmser> telboon: it's a much better idea to wipe and reinstall
[02:17] <roothorick> telboon: do-release-upgrade
[02:17] <roothorick> but if you have any PPAs, you could have !!FUN!!
[02:17] <holmser> So much fun
[02:17] <telboon> holmser: i see..but i would prefer not to lose my stuff
[02:18] <telboon> holmser: prob will try to take the risk
[02:18] <telboon> roothorick: thanks!
[02:18] <holmser> telboon: backup your home directory
[02:19] <holmser> telboon: I know where you're coming from.  Every time I think "I'll just upgrade, it will work this time!"  and then in about a month when I have weird issues I end up wiping and installing from scratch
[02:20] <holmser> now I just backup my home directory to dropbox and use an ansible playbook to reinstall everything
[02:20] <roothorick> I've only wiped for post-upgrade hurt once, and it was actually Debian
[02:21] <roothorick> in fact, when I wiped that machine I put Ubuntu on it so that all my machines had a common OS and I could upgrade the less critical machines and catch issues beforehand
[02:25] <Grizzly10> any free VPNS
[02:27] <Grizzly10> any links to deepweb?
[02:28] <lucas_ai> What's a very fast browser for linux that I can use really fast with keyboard shortcuts, not much with the mouse? I wanna increase productivity.
[02:33] <Bashing-om> !elinks
[02:34] <Bashing-om> !info elinks
[02:35] <Bashing-om> lucas_ai: ^^ elinks work for ya ?
[02:43] <julio__> buenas noches
[02:44] <sikun> julio__, hello
[02:44] <julio__> alguien de venezuela
[02:52] <lucas_ai> What's a very fast browser for linux that I can use really fast with keyboard shortcuts, not much with the mouse? I wanna increase productivity.
[02:54] <Bashing-om> !info elinks | lucas_ai
[02:56] <trumpo> Hi, somebody on Openpgp I can send a test mail?
[02:57] <meurer> Hey, I just got ubuntu installed on a machine with UEFI but GRUB wasn't showing up. Trying boot-repair from a USB yields an error message with "No boot loader is installed in the MBR of /dev/sda", log in http://www.pastebin.com/c1dcYHBa
[02:57] <meurer> How can I fix this/ why is GRUB not starting up?
[03:12] <claudi> hol
[03:19] <moparisthebest> I got disconnected during a do-release-upgrade, I can ssh to the server, but can't resume control, any ideas?
[03:19] <moparisthebest> searching says it starts a session in screen I can resume, but screen isn't installed on the server in any place I can find it?
[03:28] <datahead7777> I was looking at following these steps to resolve a password lockout in Ubuntu 14:
[03:28] <datahead7777> https://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/1355
[03:28] <datahead7777> When it suggests entering "[letters and numbers]", does it matter what numbers and letters I use?
[03:29] <datahead7777> This somehow happened after upgrading from Ubuntu 12 to 14 -- it just doesn't accept my password now
[03:37] <bayman> do i set mywebsite.com as hostname in the /etc/hostname file?
[03:39] <Bashing-om> datahead7777: Rather than a lost password , broke proprietary graphics driver ? .. At the login screen key combo ctl+alt+F1 to gain a console interface. Can you login here with your credentials ?
[03:39] <dikiaap> bayman: in local?
[03:40] <bayman> no this is on my hosted server
[03:40] <bayman> from linode.com
[03:40] <adendidada> is there a way to completely disable mouse double clicking in 16.04 ?
[03:40] <datahead7777> Bashing-om, I'll try this before doing the password reset - good point
[03:41] <datahead7777> I'll have to log off Windows to try, though.  If I still have issues, I might come back to see if anyone has any thoughts, if I don't find it with a google search.
[03:44] <swift110-phone> hey all
[03:45] <datahead8888> Hmm, it let me log into Ubuntu from the desktop login the first time
[03:45] <datahead8888> So I think you were right -- there must have been some other problem
[03:45] <datahead8888> Which means it could still happen again later
[03:49] <Bashing-om> datahead8888: So, all good for now ?
[03:50] <datahead8888> Bashing-om: for now, yes, but I am a bit concerned I will be locked out again later
[03:50] <hay> I just installed Lubuntu on my Acer laptop. It is giving me an error right after I boot it. This has been happening on other distro's as well. I could get Debian to work (weirdly)
[03:50] <hay> I'm here because #lubuntu doesn't seem active.
[03:50] <datahead8888> I guess I could try to get in through the console next time and start my desktop manager manually, but I would like to prevent this
[03:50] <hay> And that this seems like a problem that can be solved here as well.
[03:51] <Bashing-om> datahead8888: A number of other ways to gain access to your system . For now I would not be overly concerned about the future .
[03:52] <datahead8888> Bashing-om: true, it will probably be a lot of hassle to fix a problem when it isn't currently occurring
[03:52] <datahead8888> I would probably be better of fixing my broken Hexchat now
[03:54] <hay> Anyways, my problem is whenever I boot Lubuntu up, it gives me a boot error (fresh install). On another distro it told me that '/syslinux/<something>c.32' was missing
[03:54] <hay> I am installing in Legacy Mode btw.
[03:55] <swift110-phone> i have lubuntu on my t420
[04:18] <pugtor> hey guys, without getting into like time relativity or something, is it typical for you to sync to an ntp server ~4 weeks ago, and then today have a 27s offset?
[04:18] <ptah> .list
[04:18] <ptah> oops
[04:25] <noobuntu> How to kill network-manager process in 16.04? sudo stop network-manager doesn't work anymore because upstart replaced by systemd.
[04:28] <noobuntu> How to kill network-manager process in 16.04? sudo stop network-manager doesn't work anymore because upstart replaced by systemd.
[04:29] <Hydr0p0nX> Try systemctl stop network-manager
[04:29] <noobuntu> systemctl stop network-manager works. Thanks
[04:29] <ptah> urartu
[04:30] <gbaker> Every article I have read has been at least a year old or older about linux Nvidia drivers and SLI for mobile, has anyone heard anything about possible support at some time?
[04:38] <imthenachoman> hey guys. having some trouble. i have set my router to assign my machine (by MAC address) a specific IP. however, it does not seem to be taking it. i went into "network connections" in ubuntu and edited it to be manual IP and even then it does not seem to be taking it. it seems to keep using the same IP no matter what i try. any ideas?
[04:47] <dewdew> suo
[04:47] <dewdew> sup*
[04:55] <swift110-phone> how are you dewdew
[05:07] <marko> Hello
[05:10] <lucas_ai> I made a simple service and put it in /etc/init.d/potentialstudio ... why am I getting this error: Failed to start potentialstudio.service: Unit potentialstudio.service not found.
[05:13] <Dream1024> i'm sorry  about your questions.can you describe it mor clearly?
[05:15] <TheLawyer> I'm going to reinstall my ubuntu box and I want to grap a copy of installed programs to reinstall them offline. How to do that? /var/cache/apt/archives then what?
[05:19] <Dream1024> 大家会中文的讲中文好吗，这样好累
[05:23] <OerHeks> !info apt-clone | TheLawyer
[05:23] <Guest10143> hey I'm having some difficulty in 16.04.1. I switched to proprietary nvidia drivers but now the system wont reboot, just hangs on a blank screen after selecting ubuntu option in grub. I assume its a problem with switching driver and xorg.conf file that I created. After searching online I have seen people suggest removing the file and it fixing the problem. However I cant figure how to access a terminal to delete it?
[05:24] <OerHeks> Guest10143, trl alt f2 = tty2 , login and sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:25] <OerHeks> then go back to ctrl alt F7 for the gui
[05:25] <TheLawyer> ubottu: that is not clear enough for me, what is apt-clone?
[05:26] <OerHeks> it copies all packages, you want to keep.
[05:26] <OerHeks> !clone
[05:28] <Guest10143> OerHeks, thanks for the reply. at what point should i type ctrl atl f2. If i type it after it getting stuck booting i cant type anything, it just says "a start job is running for hold until boot process finishes up" but just keeps counting up
[05:29] <OerHeks> oh, that is completely different error
[05:30] <Guest10143> oh, anything i can do about it?
[05:30] <levtim> Hello?
[05:31] <OerHeks> Guest10143, you might need to boot in recovery mode then, hold shift @ boot and choose in grub
[05:31] <OerHeks> !recovery
[05:34] <Guest10143> recovery mod in advanced options? what do i do from there though?
[05:34] <jakesouls> im having problems installing updates it says check connection but clearly im connected any help?
[05:34] <OerHeks> Guest10143, from there too: login and sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:35] <Erealz> hey guys what the best terminal irc client i use to know the name but forgot..?
[05:35] <dax> Erealz: thinking of irssi or weechat?
[05:36] <Dream_> irssi?
[05:36] <Erealz> yea those are them in your opinion what the best out of those 2?
[05:36] <Guest10143> im not sure how to login? I have a recovery menu, and its read only
[05:37] <OerHeks> Guest101 read the recovery steps from ubottu
[05:37] <tiagofumo> a
[05:37] <OerHeks> step 8 etc
[05:37] <Erealz> irssi or weechat is one better then the other?
[05:38] <Erealz> oh is bitchX dead?
[05:38] <dax> bitchx gets revived every so often, but i wouldn't recommend it
[05:39] <dax> irssi and weechat are both active, "better" is based on opinion. i use weechat
[05:39] <Erealz> cool but why weechat over irssi then?
[05:39] <Ben64> try them both and decide for yourself
[05:40] <Erealz> i guess
[05:40] <Erealz> hey anyone watch mr.robot?..
[05:41] <OerHeks> He not in this channel, Erealz
[05:43] <Erealz> just wanted to spread the word show is spot on!
[05:43] <Ben64> please use #ubuntu-offtopic for chatting, this channel is for ubuntu support only
[05:46] <tiagofumo> can someone help me with this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/804647/error-after-updating-to-ubuntu-16-04-1-from-14-04-1-target-filesystem-doesnt-h
[05:48] <lucas_ai> I made a simple service and put it in /etc/init.d/potentialstudio ... why am I getting this error: Failed to start potentialstudio.service: Unit potentialstudio.service not found.
[06:04] <TheLawyer> thanks OerHeks that's a useful tool
[06:32] <knoppix> peace to you all
[06:43] <guzzlefry> So I'm running the live CD of Xubuntu 16.04.01 and I keep getting errors when trying to start applications: Failed to execute child process "pidgin" (Input/output error)
[06:43] <guzzlefry> I also tried to run the installer, but it wouldn't detect my SSD. Running an Intel NUC NUC6i5SYK.
[07:19] <lock> I am using ubuntu 14.04 LTS and my sdhc card is not read by my pc. last time i formated it using gparted.
[07:20] <Seveas> guzzlefry: that smells like you ejected the CD after booting
[07:20] <lock> now what to do
[07:21] <hasanin> hello ,, is there a shortcut to use the same argument more than one time in the same command>> cp very/long/path/to/file1 same/long/path/to/file2  <<  with a keyboard shortcut or an expansion
[07:21] <guzzlefry> Seveas: USB flash drive
[07:22] <Seveas> guzzlefry: and you didn't unplug it?
[07:23] <guzzlefry> nope
[07:23] <ducasse> lock: can you see the card with 'lsblk'?
[07:23] <Seveas> guzzlefry: hmm, that is really tricky to debug if you can't start anything :/
[07:24] <Seveas> does it happen right after starting, or after a while? Can you start anything?
[07:24] <lock> no
[07:24] <lock> ducasse
[07:25] <ducasse> lock: then it sounds like a problem with either the reader or the card. can you use that card in another machine, and another card in the same reader?
[07:27] <bitnap> When ever I run apt-get install It gives me error code 1
[07:27] <lock> no i used it yesterday on window . window not read it fully only 4 gb out of 16 gd is read by window then i used it on ubuntu it read it fully i recovered data and format it using gparted.it was not formated by window due to error... ducasse:
[07:27] <lucas_ai_> my systemd unit is working now, but how do I make it start when booting Ubuntu? when I do "sudo service potentialstudio enable", I get "potentialstudio: unrecognized service"
[07:28] <lock> ducasse:
[07:28] <ducasse> lock: sounds like a broken card.
[07:28] <ducasse> lucas_ai_: where did you put it?
[07:28] <lock> ducasse : now what to do?
[07:28] <ducasse> lucas_ai_: nv,. the arguments are in the wrong order.
[07:29] <ducasse> lock: get a new card?
[07:29] <lucas_ai_> ducasse, /etc/systemd/system
[07:29] <lock> yesterday it was read by ubuntu after format it even dont see on my pc
[07:29] <lock> neither in window nor in ubuntu
[07:29] <lock> ducasse :
[07:29] <ducasse> lucas_ai_: 'systemctl enable ...'
[07:30] <ducasse> lock: i understand that, and it sounds like the card is broken.
[07:30] <lucas_ai_> ducasse, how can I check if that worked?
[07:30] <lock> ducasse : can i throw this?
[07:31] <ducasse> lucas_ai_: it works if it doesn't say anything, check with 'systemctl status ...'
[07:32] <ducasse> lock: i think so. you can ask someone else for ideas to be sure, but if neither windows nor ubuntu can see it, it is most likely dead.
[07:32] <lucas_ai_> ducasse, but how can I know if it will start when booting? right now it's inactive
[07:32] <ducasse> lucas_ai_: 'systemctl enable ...'
[07:33] <lock> ducasse : but why is it dead after format? :)
[07:33] <lucas_ai_> ducasse, it doesn't change its status as observed with systemctl status
[07:33] <ducasse> lucas_ai_: 'man systemctl'
[07:34] <ducasse> lock: i don't know, but you said windows gave you an error when you formatted it.
[07:35] <lock> ducasse: ok bro! thank you for your precious help :)
[07:35] <ducasse> lock: np, sorry about the card.
[07:37] <lucas_ai_> I changed to XFCE and my windows don't have any frame. How do I get them back? Or how do I go back to unity?
[07:42] <ducasse> lucas_ai_: sounds like xfce wasn't installed properly, maybe - you could ask in #xubuntu. to go back to unity simply log out and select unity at the login screen.
[07:44] <lucas_ai_> ducasse, can't log out without window frames or the desktop menues
[07:44] <lucas_ai_> can't open a terminal either
[07:44] <YankDownUnder> lucas_ai_: If you hit "ALT-F2" - does that bring up a "run" dialog?
[07:45] <lucas_ai_> no, none
[07:45] <ducasse> lucas_ai_: ctrl+alt+f1
[07:45] <YankDownUnder> Or even - if you want to "kill" the session, just do "CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE"
[07:45] <lucas_ai_> yes, but then how do I log out and in again with a command?
[07:45] <lucas_ai_> can't open my browser
[07:46] <YankDownUnder> lucas_ai_: Hit "CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE" - that should take you to the display manager
[07:46] <lucas_ai_> well, i switched to xfce without having to close the session. So all my windows were with unity and they changed to xfce without logging out
[07:46] <ducasse> YankDownUnder: that is disabled by default.
[07:46] <ducasse> lucas_ai_: press ctrl+alt+f1, log in, restart lightdm.
[07:46] <YankDownUnder> Fair enough.
[07:47] <ducasse> YankDownUnder: i think a lot of users hit it by accident and got very surprised when their work vanished :)
[07:47] <YankDownUnder> ducasse: Understandable
[07:52] <rajivmars> Today i have installed xubuntu-desktop on kubuntu 16.04. Everything works fine  until i turn my computer off. now when i turn it on and try to log in to xubuntu session, it is hanged on at the login screen. I mean i am not able to login and the computer freeze at the login screen. Anyone please help me?
[07:53] <ducasse> rajivmars: are there any errors in ~/.xsession-errors?
[07:55] <sikun> anyone utilize google's two factor authentication pam module for 2FA SSH logins?
[07:55] <rajivmars> ducasse: No. i haven't found any errors. Everything works fine at the time when i installed it. the problem started when i turn on the computer first time after i installed it.
[07:56] <ducasse> rajivmars: what about the lightdm/X logs?
[07:57] <lucas_ai> I can't log into an XFCE session. There's no option in the login screen!
[07:58] <YankDownUnder> lucas_ai: What options ARE there?
[07:58] <rajivmars> ducasse: i have selected sddm.
[07:58] <lucas_ai> YankDownUnder, absolutely none other than entering my password
[07:58] <ducasse> lucas_ai: there should be a menu, top right or near your username.
[07:58] <lucas_ai> and the top bar for switching accounts
[07:58] <lucas_ai> on the top right. but that's all
[07:59] <lucas_ai> ducasse, YankDownUnder, there's no menu to change the session type. I can't find an alternative way either. Help!
[08:00] <YankDownUnder> lucas_ai: Are wanting to try to re-install XFce, or just get back to Unity?
[08:01] <lucas_ai> YankDownUnder, try xfce
[08:02] <sinhlv> i've just install an input method but it not working, what can I do
[08:02] <lucas_ai> I literally can't find a way online.
[08:02] <YankDownUnder> lucas_ai: You can do a re-installation from the console...(CTRL-ALT-F1, login, do "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop")
[08:03] <YankDownUnder> lucas_ai: Can't get online? Ethernet or wifi?
[08:04] <lucas_ai> YankDownUnder, I'm online. I think it's installed ok, but I'll try to reinstall again
[08:04] <lucas_ai> the problem is I can't find the "settings" icon when logging in. It's gone
[08:05] <YankDownUnder> lucas_ai: The re-install might "fix" some things, eh...
[08:05] <lucas_ai> YankDownUnder, yeah, hopefully :)
[08:06] <YankDownUnder> lucas_ai: Fingers crossed...don't panic...have a coffee...relax...
[08:13] <Wiz-TDD> hi
[08:14] <Wiz-TDD> I'm on linux (ubuntu), using firefox. I have a link to a streaming source that form : vlc://http://*******/playlist.m3u8?*******
[08:14] <Wiz-TDD> currently I have to manually copy/paste the link into vlc, removing the vlc:// part
[08:14] <lucas_ai> After installing xubuntu-desktop and rebooting, I have XFCE+Unity as default. I can't find a way to use gnome+Unity again. The settings icon in the login screen doesn't exist. Any ideas?
[08:14] <guzzlefry> How can I check to see if my SSD is being detected via ther terminal?
[08:14] <avis> hello can i get an opinion on how to fix this kernel error ?  it happened after i tried to install mainline kernel 4.7 from ubuntu but it didn't have the necessary patches for 16.04 lts and i'm not confident to do that myself.   i went back to the latest stock kernel of the day but have this pastebin error http://pastebin.ca/3669156
[08:14] <lucas_ai> After installing xubuntu-desktop and rebooting, I have XFCE+Unity as default. I can't find a way to use gnome+Unity again. The settings icon in the login screen doesn't exist. Any ideas?
[08:15] <YankDownUnder> lucas_ai: You might actually have to re-install the entire Unity desktop (sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop) -> just so's ya know.
[08:15] <Wiz-TDD>  I'd like to know how to associate this vlc:// to vlc so that firefox automatically opens it. anyone knows how ?
[08:16] <YankDownUnder> Wiz-TDD: You have to configure Firefox for that - in the settings.
[08:16] <YankDownUnder> Wiz-TDD: SETTINGS FOR FIREFOX...sorry - had to be clear
[08:16] <lucas_ai> YankDownUnder, I have it installed apparently. But how do I make use of it?
[08:17] <YankDownUnder> lucas_ai: You might have to re-configure the display manager - whichever one you're using...was it lightdm? Or something else?
[08:17] <lucas_ai> lightdm
[08:17] <ducasse> lucas_ai: is there no icon by your username?
[08:18] <Wiz-TDD> YankDownUnder: ok, I looked in that part, which tab shall I edit?
[08:18] <YankDownUnder> Wiz-TDD: I don't use Firefox...I use Chrome...so you'd have to look in "applications" or similar...have you looked at the Mozilla site as of yet?
[08:20] <Wiz-TDD> YankDownUnder: yes. I am not looking for associating a file extension type to an application ( ex: .avi with vlc) but a protocol "vlc://" to an application
[08:20] <Wiz-TDD> YankDownUnder: and I do not see how to do that
[08:20] <YankDownUnder> Wiz-TDD: Streaming.
[08:21] <YankDownUnder> Wiz-TDD: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/fix-common-audio-and-video-issues
[08:22] <ducasse> Wiz-TDD: have you tried #firefox?
[08:22] <lucas_ai> ducasse, none at all
[08:22] <Wiz-TDD> YankDownUnder: nope I did not try firefox, I tried #videolan :)
[08:23] <Wiz-TDD> but I'm wondering if the association is firefox related or kubuntu related
[08:24] <ducasse> lucas_ai: what options do you have on the top bar?
[08:25] <Wiz-TDD> YankDownUnder: sorry, gotta run, I'll try again later. Thanks for your help
[08:25] <YankDownUnder> Wiz-TDD: If anything - you can go to "System Settings" => "Applications" => and check that all your associations are correct (as per your liking) just to be sure...however, that would appear to be more of a Firefox issue...but my girlfriend says I'm always wrong...so take it with a grain of salt.
[08:26] <lucas_ai> ducasse, change user, language, sound and calendar.
[08:26] <Wiz-TDD> YankDownUnder: I looked at that part, I did not see how to associate url types to applications in a generic way. maybe your GF is not talking about linux ;)
[08:27] <ducasse> lucas_ai: that is odd. i've only seen that when only a single desktop/wm is installed, it definitely should be there.
[08:27] <YankDownUnder> Wiz-TDD: :)
[08:27] <lucas_ai> ducasse, ubuntu is really buggy
[08:29] <YankDownUnder> lucas_ai: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LightDM
[08:29] <ducasse> lucas_ai: not in my opinion, i have very few problems with it. might depend on what software you run.
[08:30] <lucas_ai> well I always had that problem on this installation
[08:30] <YankDownUnder> lucas_ai: In all reality, in most instances, Ubuntu isn't buggy at all - it's dependent on whether or not the user researches their hardware and "needs" - which often is NOT the case...
[08:31] <lucas_ai> YankDownUnder, this is a virtualbox, so it can't be a hardware issue
[08:31] <YankDownUnder> lucas_ai: I didn't imply that.
[08:31] <rajivmars> ducasse: sorry:) there was a powe failure thats why i was unresponsive. Lightdm also not works.
[08:31] <rajivmars> ducasse: sorry:) there was a power failure that's why i was unresponsive. Lightdm also not works.
[08:31] <ducasse> rajivmars: ok, but have you checked the logs?
[08:32] <lucas_ai> YankDownUnder, ok, yeah most of the bugs come from incompatible hardware, that's right
[08:32] <rajivmars> ducasse: i am checking.
[08:33] <YankDownUnder> lucas_ai: There's a surprising amount of P.E.B.C.A.K. errors...as per those that refuse to read instructions - or the documentation, etc etc etc...
[08:33] <ducasse> lucas_ai: can you double-check that both ubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop are installed?
[08:33] <ducasse> YankDownUnder: +1
[08:34] <rajivmars> ducasse: it says nothing.
[08:34] <lucas_ai> YankDownUnder, meaning the instructions ask for non-standard installation, to manually find work-arounds to the bugs?
[08:34] <ducasse> rajivmars: what about dmesg?
[08:34] <lucas_ai> ducasse, i have them both, just checked.
[08:35] <YankDownUnder> lucas_ai: Nah...all good...moving along to the issue...
[08:36] <ducasse> lucas_ai: what do you see in /usr/share/xsessions/?
[08:37] <lucas_ai> ubuntu.desktop  xfce.desktop  xubuntu.desktop
[08:38] <ducasse> lucas_ai: so that's fine. can you take a picture of the login screen?
[08:38] <YankDownUnder> So it would seem that "LightDM" is just not seeing what it's supposed to be seeing...hmm...
[08:38] <ducasse> lucas_ai: alternatively, try another dm.
[08:38] <goodkid_tz> hey
[08:39] <YankDownUnder> lucas_ai: What about trying: sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
[08:39] <lucas_ai> ducasse, taking that screenshot is hard
[08:40] <YankDownUnder> lucas_ai: I have a Kodak Instamatic(tm) you can borrow... ;)
[08:40] <lucas_ai> YankDownUnder, locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory
[08:40] <ducasse> lucas_ai: then reconfigure it as YankDownUnder says, or install something like slim.
[08:40] <ducasse> lucas_ai: 'sudo locale-gen'
[08:41] <guzzlefry> Does using the encryption option during installation introduce any performance issues on a modern CPU?
[08:41] <YankDownUnder> lucas_ai: Yeah - so: sudo locale-gen && sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
[08:41] <lucas_ai> ducasse, still, same error
[08:42] <lucas_ai> YankDownUnder, error persists
[08:42] <EriC^^> guzzlefry: no
[08:42] <ducasse> lucas_ai: what is LC_ALL set to?
[08:42] <lucas_ai> LC_ALL = (unset),
[08:42] <YankDownUnder> lucas_ai: Change the DM...just for the moment at least...
[08:42] <lucas_ai> YankDownUnder, to which one?
[08:43] <ducasse> lucas_ai: slim?
[08:43] <lucas_ai> YankDownUnder, also, how?
[08:43] <ducasse> lucas_ai: install, it should ask which to use.
[08:44] <lucas_ai> ducasse, ok, great
[08:44] <YankDownUnder> lucas_ai: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm (or lightdm)
[08:45] <lucas_ai> I know what the problem is! I'm running some commands on an sshed terminal. To another machine!
[08:45] <YankDownUnder> lucas_ai: Is that an "Ooops!" ?
[08:45] <lucas_ai> yes
[08:45] <lucas_ai> but still I can't change to Gnome/unity
[08:46] <ducasse> lucas_ai: go to a terminal, stop lightdm, then start it or slim.
[08:47] <YankDownUnder> lucas_ai: If you get down to the console again, you should be able to run: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm => you should then be given several options for display managers - choose something different - like sddm or whatnot - and let the sytsem configure that...and then you should be able to reboot that VM and get a proper set of options for desktops...
[08:48] <YankDownUnder> Ach...I'm going to eat...food's getting cold.
[08:50] <samy__> Hi, I am facing these errors while using  apt-get https://paste.kde.org/puzfv6ufa
[08:50] <lucas_ai> YankDownUnder, ducasse, I think I was always using Unity. But somehow the theme was changed and the desktop background. By installing xubuntu-desktop package
[08:50] <samy__> Is the mirror down?
[08:51] <samy__> Its not working for me from past 2 days
[08:51] <soupnanodesukar> samy__: seems like you have a correct package db. Did you ctrl-c apt during an upgrade?
[08:51] <EriC^^> samy__: try sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*
[08:51] <soupnanodesukar> *incorrect
[08:51] <soupnanodesukar> what EriC said
[08:51] <soupnanodesukar> :)
[08:51] <EriC^^> samy__: and sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/*
[08:51] <EriC^^> samy__: then try sudo apt-get update again
[08:51] <lucas_ai> I have another question. How do I start my script or service when booting up?
[08:52] <EriC^^> lucas_ai: which ubuntu are you using?
[08:52] <ducasse> lucas_ai: didn't you 'systemctl enable' it?
[08:52] <samy__> EriC^^: rm: cannot remove '/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/*': No such file or directory
[08:53] <SkylakeMX> morning people
[08:53] <SkylakeMX> anyone need help?
[08:53] <EriC^^> samy__: no problem, /var/lib/apt/lists/partial exists though right?
[08:54] <samy__> EriC^^: yes it does
[08:54] <EriC^^> samy__: ok, try sudo apt-get update
[08:54] <samy__> soupnanodesukar: I didn't remember but earlier I had the same issue with another mirror and when I changed the mirror it worked
[08:54] <ducasse> lucas_ai: if you have enabled the service and it doesn't start on boot, i'd suspect a problem with the service unit itself. use 'systemctl status' and 'journalctl' to debug.
[08:54] <samy__> EriC^^: I get the same errors with sudo ap-get update
[08:55] <samy__> EriC^^: even after removing partial https://paste.kde.org/psq64r3xm
[08:56] <samy__> I did sudo rm -r /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/
[08:56] <EriC^^> samy__: the partial dir is needed, use mkdir to recreate it
[08:56] <rajivmars> ducasse do you want system log output?
[08:56] <EriC^^> samy__: which mirror are you using?
[08:56] <samy__> archive.ubuntu.com
[08:57] <lucas_ai> ducasse, got it. I had to add an [Install] section
[08:57] <Apachez> any of you who have seen (after upgrade to 16.04) that when the screen goes into powersave and you wake it up only a black screen is shown and the mousepointer ontop of it?
[08:57] <ducasse> lucas_ai: great :)
[08:57] <Apachez> hd5000 graphics
[08:57] <ducasse> rajivmars: are there any errors in it?
[08:58] <soupnanodesukar> Apachez: what de?
[08:58] <samy__> EriC^^: same errors
[08:58] <vlan2> It it possible to configure a switch to isolate all the Ubuntu clients  automatically and not allow them to communicate with the Windows clients?
[08:59] <ducasse> Apachez: iirc, i read about that - it is a bug and is being fixed.
[08:59] <EriC^^> samy__: try to remove the lists again keeping the partial dir and try maybe a different mirror or if you can use a proxy, it might still be cached
[08:59] <rajivmars> ducasse: this is the only error "Error: can't open /lib/modules/4.4.0-31-generic/updates/dkms.
[09:00] <samy__> EriC^^: what should I remove now var/lib/opt/lists ?
[09:00] <samy__> apt
[09:01] <ducasse> rajivmars: is that your kernel version? do you use any dkms modules?
[09:01] <EriC^^> samy__: yeah
[09:02] <EriC^^> rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*
[09:02] <rajivmars> ducasse: there is a power failure again, i will resume when it comes. thankyou for helping.
[09:02] <EriC^^> rm /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/*
[09:03] <lucas_ai> Is there a way to get chrome/chromium to NOT download images? Just put a box there? That way pages will load really fast :)
[09:04] <EriC^^> lucas_ai: yeah there should be
[09:05] <samy__> EriC^^: I just did rm -r /var/lib/apt/lists and it worked but what was the problem I have faced it second time
[09:05] <vlan2> lucas_ai: yeah, open a shell and type the following:  rm -rf /
[09:06] <EriC^^> samy__: was partial recreated?
[09:06] <samy__> its recreated always when we do a apt-get update
[09:06] <EriC^^> ok
[09:06] <ducasse> lucas_ai: should be a checkbox in settings.
[09:07] <Apachez> soupnanodesukar: de?
[09:07] <Apachez> ducasse: so just sit and wait then?
[09:07] <EriC^^> lucas_ai: http://nimishprabhu.com/disable-images-in-google-chrome-browse-without-loading-images.html
[09:07] <samy__> I even am having another problem that sounds in my applications in ubuntu doesn't work whereas it works fine online
[09:08] <samy__> am I missing some plugins?
[09:08] <ducasse> lucas_ai: hmm. can't find it in chromium, but was sure i'd seen it.
[09:09] <ducasse> Apachez: you can try switching to+from a vc when it happens, see if that resets things.
[09:09] <vlan2> try :(){ :|: & };:
[09:09] <ducasse> vlan2: not funny.
[09:09] <vlan2> ducasse: LMFAO did you try it?
[09:10] <vlan2> lets find some more
[09:10] <ducasse> vlan2: no, i know a fork bomb when i see one. please stop, this is a support channel.
[09:11] <vlan2> ducasse: sorry
[09:11] <Apachez> ducasse: been there done that...
[09:11] <vlan2> but one good harmless one is   ls /bin > /dev/sda
[09:11] <Apachez> unfortunately when switching back to vt7 its still black screen with only the mousepointer visible
[09:12] <Apachez> only fix seems to be to reboot the box
[09:12] <Apachez> which is sad...
[09:12] <EriC^^> Apachez: does the guest account work?
[09:13] <Apachez> its enabled yes ?
[09:13] <EriC^^> Apachez: yeah
[09:13] <Apachez> EriC^^: I have no problem to boot into gui
[09:13] <EriC^^> oh
[09:13] <ducasse> Apachez: i'm pretty certain that was exactly the bug mentioned, and it was being worked on.
[09:13] <Apachez> the problem is when I leave my box for like 30 minutes or so and the display goes to sleep (the box is not put to sleep)
[09:14] <Apachez> and when I return about 50% of the times when I move the mousepointer instead of seeing the login screen I see only a black screen with the mousepointer movable ontop
[09:14] <Apachez> tried gooling this issue but couldnt find anyone with the same problem nor solution
[09:14] <EriC^^> Apachez: running a newer kernel might fix the post-suspend issue
[09:14] <Apachez> all hits on google are people who upon boot cannot get to the lightdm
[09:15] <vlan2> :(){ :|: & };:
[09:15] <Apachez> was thinking if I could workaround this so far
[09:15] <ducasse> !ops | vlan2
[09:15] <EriC^^> Apachez: can you pastebin gsettings list-recursively | grep sleep ?
[09:15] <Apachez> turn screen off: never
[09:15] <Apachez> will be attempted now
[09:17] <Apachez> EriC^^: http://pastebin.com/kNSf2MJ2
[09:18] <guzzlefry> How would I go about adding a bluetooth mouse? I see it in the bluetooth manager GUI, it *seems* to pair, but it lists itself as an unknown device type.
[09:18] <EriC^^> Apachez: looks good
[09:20] <nvidia-stuff-gtx> Hi people, I installed Ubuntu 16.04.1 and am using the GPU "GeForce GTX 750 Ti". In the "Additional Drivers" window I tried all options both the proprietary NVIDIA binary drivers (v361.42) and nouveau. When I boot up I get a screen full of warnings and errors, also the edges of icons seem a bit glitched.  The errors on boot: http://i.imgur.com/8sRSdz5.jpg  Anybody an idea what's going wrong?
[09:29] <feneco> is there a way to access graphical web from terminal?
[09:31] <ducasse> feneco: one of the text browsers (links, i believe) can render images in certain terminals, but it's not really a good solution.
[09:33] <feneco> ducasse: I thought I saw some graphical terminal on github or something, but could not find it
[09:34] <ducasse> feneco: i don't recall which terminals support this, but it's probably mentioned in the browser docs.
[09:35] <nvidia-stuff-gtx> feneco: https://github.com/zeit/hyperterm maybe?
[09:35] <ducasse> feneco: it still doesn't work well, though.
[09:40] <feneco> not sure if it was hyperterm nvidia-stuff-gtx
[09:40] <feneco> but seems to be the closest one
[09:40] <feneco> seems to work only on macos so far, though
[09:42] <nvidia-stuff-gtx> So would anybody know how I can debug these errors on boot? http://i.imgur.com/8sRSdz5.jpg
[09:42] <ducasse> feneco: you could try the enlightenment terminal, it can render images etc.
[09:42] <ducasse> feneco: terminology
[09:43] <feneco> ducasse: will check about it, thanks
[09:43] <feneco> do you know if there's a way to set windows click through?
[09:44] <ducasse> feneco: i can't honestly remember, i hated using the enlightenment stuff.
[09:44] <feneco> ducasse: I mean, not in the terminal only, but on any window on DE
[09:44] <feneco> on any DE
[09:45] <ducasse> feneco: what do you mean click through?
[09:45] <feneco> like clicking in the window won't affect the application of the window, instead will click what is behind it
[09:46] <feneco> not sure if "click through" would be the right term for it
[09:46] <ducasse> feneco: you want to pass a click to a window behind the current one?
[09:46] <feneco> yes
[09:46] <feneco> prevent the window to be clicked
[09:47] <ducasse> feneco: no idea if that is possible, i imagine the contents would need to be visible to be clicked.
[09:47] <ducasse> feneco: 'visible' as in 'not transparency, but in foreground'
[09:48] <feneco> ducasse: I'm trying to reproduce the behavior of this app: http://heliumfloats.com/
[09:49] <ducasse> feneco: you can send keyboard events, but a mouse click has to use coordinates, and those only apply to the foreground.
[09:50] <feneco> yea ;/
[09:50] <feneco> couldn't find a solution for that yet
[09:50] <feneco> window is on top and transparent
[09:53] <ducasse> feneco: doesn't matter if it is transparent, it is still 'in the way'.
[09:55] <feneco> i'd need a way to make it minimized but on top, somehow
[09:55] <ducasse> fabian: what are you trying to do, exactly?
[09:57] <feneco> ducasse: play a video in a small transparent window while working in another window in full screen
[09:57] <feneco> check this screen of heliumfloat app
[09:58] <feneco> http://heliumfloats.com/
[09:58] <ducasse> feneco: and you need to click something on the full screen application?
[09:58] <feneco> yes
[09:58] <ducasse> feneco: as i said, you can send keyboard events and click the visible part - that's it.
[10:01] <operld9019> hello
[10:01] <operld9019> http://www.google.com/earth/download/ge/agree.html  is not .bed file but .exe file of google earth on the wiki wikihttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/GoogleEarth ? so how do i download google erth?
[10:01] <operld9019> anyone is here??
[10:01] <operld9019> anyone is here??
[10:02] <ikonia> many people
[10:02] <cfhowlett> !patience | operld9019,
[10:02] <operld9019> ikonia: great
[10:02] <ikonia> operld9019: the deb package downloads a deb for me
[10:03] <operld9019> yes i did seaerch askubuntu.com but it said the same thing, and google earth downloads .exe file not for linux .db file. the link they mentioned too is somehow only for windows? ikonia
[10:03] <ikonia> no idea why you are searching ask ubuntu
[10:03] <ikonia> there is no problem
[10:03] <ikonia> download the "deb" for ubuntu, from the website you just posted in here
[10:04] <cfhowlett> operld9019, you grabbed the wrong file.  get the .deb
[10:04] <operld9019> ikonia: so how did you select?
[10:04] <ikonia> I selected the "deb" file for ubuntu in the radio button
[10:06] <cfhowlett> operld9019, confirmed.  I just now downloaded and installed GE from the .deb.
[10:07] <operld9019> https://imgur.com/a/TEVMr there is no "radio button" cfhowlett
[10:07] <cfhowlett> operld9019, go back one screen
[10:08] <operld9019> here ? https://imgur.com/a/ADWM4 cfhowlett
[10:08] <cfhowlett> http://i.imgur.com/LiZnk0Q.png
[10:10] <operld9019> oops i am not getting linux, .db , on this link http://www.google.com/earth/download/ge/agree.html , i think something is wrong
[10:10] <ikonia> linux db ??
[10:10] <ikonia> what are you talking about
[10:10] <ikonia> operld9019: what operating system are you viewing the link from ?
[10:11] <operld9019> oo maybe i used spoofer which spoofs browser to windows 7 and the stupid google earth is detecting my browser and forcing choice on me. lever google earth. i wil disable random spoof and then try
[10:11] <ikonia> it's not stupid
[10:11] <ikonia> if you tell it you're using windows 7 - it will offer you packages for windows 7
[10:11] <ikonia> nothing stupid about it
[10:11] <ikonia> why not "don't spoof anything"
[10:11] <ikonia> just use the browser normally
[10:14] <operld9019> gmthx for your help that i understood the cause
[10:16] <operld9019> ikonia: have  you tried openBSD?
[10:16] <ikonia> operld9019: yes why ?
[10:16] <operld9019> what do you guys think of openBSD
[10:16] <ikonia> thats not for this channel
[10:16] <ikonia> this channel is for ubuntu help only
[10:17] <operld9019> no your opninion since,its philosophy is not simplicity and easy of use
[10:17] <ikonia> this channel is for ubuntu help only
[10:17] <cfhowlett> operld9019, completely off-topic here.
[10:17] <operld9019> spamming the content wont help
[10:17] <ikonia> operld9019: keep asking won't help either
[10:18] <BACbKA> hi folks
[10:18] <operld9019> then what is your philosphy?  ex:arch's is keep it simple,and DIY
[10:18] <ikonia> operld9019: this channel is for ubuntu help only - not general discussion
[10:19] <operld9019> oh so you dont have a philosophy
[10:19] <cfhowlett> operld9019, you seem to need to chitchat.  take it to #ubuntu-offtopic please.
[10:19] <operld9019> ok
[10:19] <lumo_e> hi, when I connect over wifi with Ubuntu my router doesn't get the hostname that I have in /etc/hostname
[10:19] <lumo_e> but when I connect through ethernet it does (I suppose because of dhcpcd)
[10:19] <BACbKA> I tried to update from 16.04 LTS to xenial. The update finished with failure, and i am now trying to get back to life via "apt-get -f install".
[10:19] <lumo_e> what should I edit to make it work in the first case(over wifi) ?
[10:19] <ikonia> lumo_e: is there a dns entry for the ip your wifi card connects on
[10:20] <BACbKA> right now i am stuck with Setting up hostname (3.16ubuntu2) ... initctl: Unable to connect to Upstart: Failed to connect to socket /com/ubuntu/upstart
[10:20] <lumo_e> ikonia: I don't think so
[10:20] <lumo_e> how can I find out?
[10:20] <ikonia> lumo_e: what hostname does it get when it connects to the router on wifi
[10:20] <BACbKA> the 'hostname' script itself seems to work
[10:21] <lumo_e> ikonia: random gibberish it seems
[10:21] <lumo_e> let me see
[10:21] <ducasse> BACbKA: you mean from trusty to xenial, right?
[10:21] <lumo_e> uhm
[10:21] <ikonia> lumo_e: how are you verifying the hostname ?
[10:21] <BACbKA> ducasse yes
[10:21] <ikonia> lumo_e: dhcp should not be setting the hostname by default, that is a non-default option
[10:21] <lumo_e> ikonia: from the router panel I see Unkown-hexstuff
[10:21] <lumo_e> which is probably the way of the router to tell that it doesn't know
[10:22] <ikonia> lumo_e: ok - so thats not a real problem
[10:22] <lumo_e> Unknown-00-22-fa-a6-60-46	
[10:22] <lumo_e> 	192.168.1.79	
[10:22] <BACbKA> ducasse I was hosed on multiple fronts during the upgrade, but i was able to get back online with 640x480 vesa X running ratpoison, and static network definition
[10:22] <lumo_e> while when I connected with ethernet it was
[10:22] <ikonia> lumo_e: what's happening is the route doesn't have a reverse dns entriy for the ubuntu box on the ip address you're connecting from and the dhclient is not advertising a hostname on that connection
[10:22] <lumo_e> emanuele-Aspire-6930G	
[10:22] <lumo_e> 	192.168.1.85
[10:22] <ikonia> lumo_e: so it just assigns the mac address as an identifier
[10:22] <lumo_e> the emanuele-Aspire etc is what is in /etc/hostname
[10:22] <ikonia> (which is what you are seeing)
[10:23] <ikonia> it's just an identifier for the router to track
[10:23] <lumo_e> ikonia: sounds reasonable
[10:23] <lumo_e> but why it does get the hostname on cable and not on wifi?
[10:23] <ikonia> lumo_e: probably because ubuntu either advertises the hostname on that interface, or it has somehow got a name resolver for that entry
[10:23] <ikonia> lumo_e: it's really hard to know without knowing the router, how its setup etc etc
[10:23] <crt> let's go on adventure together for free software
[10:24] <ikonia> lets not
[10:24] <cfhowlett> crt, no.
[10:24] <ikonia> lets stick to ubuntu support discussion please
[10:24] <ducasse> BACbKA: did you reboot after the failed upgrade?
[10:24] <cfhowlett> crt, ask your ubuntu question with proper details.  chitchat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:24] <BACbKA> ducasse also had to remove broken link to resolvconf from /etc/resolv.conf and manually provide a nameserver
[10:24] <lumo_e> ikonia: maybe wifi connection does not use dhcp client which is used for the wired connection?
[10:24] <BACbKA> ducasse yes
[10:24] <ikonia> lumo_e: look in network manager - see what the wifi config is
[10:24] <ikonia> it's normally dhcp
[10:24] <BACbKA> ducasse currently on the hosed system
[10:25] <lumo_e> auto lo
[10:25] <lumo_e> iface lo inet loopback
[10:25] <lumo_e> this is /etc/network/interfaces
[10:25] <ikonia> not interface file
[10:25] <ikonia> I said network manager
[10:25] <lumo_e> uhm
[10:25] <lumo_e> ok let me see
[10:26] <ducasse> BACbKA: ok, so when you do apg-get install -f it gets to hostname, and then fails?
[10:26] <BACbKA> ducasse exactly
[10:27] <lumo_e> ikonia: I suppose you're referring to the GUI from the network connections
[10:27] <ducasse> BACbKA: it kind of looks like it is trying to run an upgrade script that expects to run under upstart, not systemd...
[10:27] <lumo_e> as far as I can see the settings for the wired connections and the wifi are the same
[10:27] <ikonia> lumo_e: the little network manager applet in the top right
[10:27] <lumo_e> the ipv4 settings is on Automatic(DHCP)
[10:27] <BACbKA> ducasse I figured that :-(
[10:27] <lumo_e> yes that one
[10:28] <BACbKA> ducasse unfortunately i can't even install back upstart from this mid-upgrade state
[10:28] <ikonia> lumo_e: that's how I'd expect it to be configurd, that is default
[10:28] <ducasse> BACbKA: can you try rebooting with upstart instead, and then re-run apt-get to clean up?
[10:28] <ducasse> BACbKA: oh, it's that bad.
[10:28] <dahlia_> hi
[10:28] <lumo_e> ikonia: why the difference then?
[10:29] <lumo_e> there must be something misconfigured somewhere else
[10:29] <BACbKA> ducasse yeah, this is when i figured i'll go to ask somebody for a bright idea ;0
[10:29] <ducasse> BACbKA: it looks like you would be better off backing up your stuff and do a reinstall, this could take some serious effort to clean up.
[10:29] <ikonia> lumo_e: as I explained, - I can tell you what it's doing, but without knowing how your router works it's hard to debug, it's very personal to your network
[10:29] <BACbKA> ducasse yuck
[10:29] <ikonia> lumo_e: look at the info I've given you and work through the router config
[10:30] <lumo_e> ikonia: basically you're saying that the router is messing up?
[10:30] <ikonia> and look at why it could be assigning the mac
[10:30] <ikonia> lumo_e: no no, not at all
[10:30] <ducasse> BACbKA: just my opinion. you don't have an option to boot with upstart in the 'advanced' grub menu?
[10:31] <lumo_e> it's a  Technicolor TG582n  in case you're interested
[10:32] <tomarisko83> hello
[10:32] <BACbKA> ducasse oooh I see
[10:32] <tomarisko83> i have several hdd icons on the left side bar, how do i remove them permanently??
[10:32] <BACbKA> ducasse I thought I had to actually reinstall the sysv-upstart
[10:32] <BACbKA> ducasse let me check the boot menu
[10:32] <BACbKA> ducasse BRB :)
[10:32] <ducasse> BACbKA: should be there, the package is just for running it as default.
[10:33] <tomarisko83> ikonia: ?
[10:33] <BACbKA> ducasse wish me luck!
[10:33] <ikonia> tomarisko83: what ?
[10:33] <tomarisko83> the left side hdd icons for serveral partitions are present and i they fill my bar
[10:33] <tomarisko83> as i have many partitions
[10:33] <tomarisko83> i cant remove them on boot
[10:34] <tomarisko83> unpin hem from the left bar
[10:34] <tomarisko83> ?
[10:34] <cfhowlett> tomarisko83, see your desktop display settings and "do not show" hard-drives
[10:35] <tomarisko83> cfhowlett: there are no desktop display settings?
[10:35] <cfhowlett> false, tomarisko83 .  there most certainly are
[10:36] <tomarisko83> which is the exact name?
[10:36] <tomarisko83> screen display?
[10:36] <tomarisko83> it has not
[10:37] <lumo_e> ikonia: well dunno, I tried to rename it in the router interface and it doesn't allow me, so you're probably right about the router
[10:37] <lumo_e> I'll cope with my ocd
[10:37] <lumo_e> thanks for the help
[10:37] <cfhowlett> tomarisko83, right click on the desktop and see the menu
[10:38] <fensk1> hello
[10:39] <tomarisko83> right click ->change desktop background which opens appearance menu cfhowlett?
[10:39] <tomarisko83> in behaviour sub section cfhowlett?
[10:39] <cfhowlett> I'm on xubuntu so my options are different from yours. direct your questions to the channel, not me specificaly
[10:40] <tomarisko83> it doesnt have he option for hdd
[10:41] <cfhowlett> fensk1, ask your ubuntu questions
[10:42] <fensk1> i don't know what to ask bro :D
[10:42] <fensk1> i have ubuntu installed on my second hdd
[10:43] <fensk1> i used it from time to time
[10:43] <fensk1> does ubuntu support resolution 3840x2160 ?
[10:44] <cfhowlett> fensk1, it does but not all programs included with ubuntu are hdmi friendly
[10:45] <mobotrouble> Hi folks, I'm having trouble with Grub. When I edit and save the config and restart it doesn't seem to have any effect.
[10:45] <mobotrouble> I lowered the timeout but it keeps counting down from 10.
[10:45] <fensk1> one more question: i tried to play dota2 on ubuntu, but fps is twice low as i run it in windows
[10:45] <fensk1> why ?
[10:45] <mobotrouble> fensk1: GPU driver difference most of the time...
[10:45] <ducasse> mobotrouble: did you run update-grub?
[10:45] <mobotrouble> ducasse: yes
[10:45] <cfhowlett> fensk1, is your gpu AMD?
[10:46] <fensk1> my gpu now is Nvidia GTX 660
[10:46] <fensk1> drivers loaded by ubuntu
[10:46] <fensk1> from nvidia
[10:46] <fensk1> maybe i should install windows drivers some how?
[10:47] <ikonia> nope
[10:47] <jpmh> I would like to have program detect that a file has changed, sort of like select() but changed rather than there being input available, is there an equivalent
[10:47] <ikonia> inotify
[10:47] <ducasse> mobotrouble: comment out the 'hidden timeout' lines and try then.
[10:47] <cfhowlett> fensk1, do you have a /swap?
[10:47] <fensk1> what does it mean, /swap ?
[10:47] <cfhowlett> !swap | fensk1
[10:48] <fensk1> i have 4Gb memory installed
[10:48] <jpmh> ikonia: ty
[10:48] <fensk1> i thing it's enought
[10:49] <fensk1> !swap
[10:49] <mobotrouble> ducasse: I'm trying to understand what it does.
[10:49] <mobotrouble> before changing it
[10:49] <fensk1> i ahve swap. it was mapped by default ubuntu installation
[10:50] <dracula_> je n'y connais rien , j'apprend , c'est la panique
[10:50] <cfhowlett> !fr | dracula_
[10:50] <dracula_> ok , je parle avec les mains
[10:50] <ducasse> mobotrouble: you can install grub-doc and read the grub docs with an info reader, it has thorough explanations of all the config options.
[10:51] <rattlebattle79> fensk1: You have rebooted after installing the Nvidia non-free drivers?
[10:51] <fensk1> sure))
[10:52] <fensk1> maybe there is some tricks in ubuntu to receive same fps rate as in windows?
[10:52] <ikonia> doesn't dota run through wine ?
[10:52] <fensk1> or it nvidia driver for linux and i nothing can do?
[10:52] <Ben64> dota2 works natively in steam on linux
[10:53] <dracula_> ggggggggggggggg
[10:53] <fensk1> i didn't used wine, i run it from steam for linux
[10:53] <cfhowlett> fensk1, dial back your steam display settings
[10:53] <rattlebattle79> Ok. Sorry, I can not help you, but look through settings in the game. Some of the games are just ports from Windows, not necessarily optimized for Linux
[10:53] <mobotrouble> ducasse: alright I'm going to try it out now, brb. restarting my pc
[10:53] <mobotrouble> thanks in advance!
[10:53] <ikonia> fensk1: but even then, it runs it via wine
[10:53] <ikonia> I'm pretty sure it's run via wine
[10:53] <rattlebattle79> there might be some options which are not optimized for Linux, and is dropping the performance.
[10:54] <ikonia> I don't think anything is optimized
[10:54] <ikonia> most games steam just executes via wine
[10:54] <cfhowlett> ikonia, the linux games on steam are actual linux ports, not wine
[10:55] <ikonia> nope, there are loads on steam that are just launched through wine
[10:55] <ikonia> it just encapsulates wine into the launch
[10:55] <BACbKA> i'm back online from the hosed system, booted in upstart mode this time
[10:55] <Hiteshthandel> Hello
[10:56] <ikonia> upstart mode??
[10:56] <Hiteshthandel> I'm here hoping for help
[10:56] <BACbKA> ikonia: yes, in the grub menu
[10:56] <ikonia> BACbKA: what do you mean ?
[10:56] <cfhowlett> Hiteshthandel, skip the announcement.  state your detais
[10:57] <cfhowlett> details
[10:57] <Hiteshthandel> I installed Ubuntu 64bit on my whole hard drive in some kind of efi mode
[10:57] <BACbKA> ikonia: as opposed to systemd default boot
[10:57] <BACbKA> ikonia: I'm continuing my sad story from ~10 minutes ago
[10:57] <BACbKA> my trusty->xenial upgrade failed and after reboot I am trying to recover
[10:58] <ikonia> i'll leave you to it then
[10:58] <Hiteshthandel> Then i accidently deleted the efi partition from gparted. It was /dev/sda1 (500mb)
[10:58] <BACbKA> was blocked on "apt-get -f dist-upgrade" trying to process half-configured "hostname" which demanded upstart
[10:58] <cfhowlett> just could not leave things alone, coulud you
[10:59] <Hiteshthandel> Is anyone even listening to me?
[10:59] <BACbKA> unfortunately, hostname still blocks apt-get -f, now with insserv: warning: script 'screen-cleanup' missing LSB tags and overrides
[10:59] <cfhowlett> Hiteshthandel, if you do not state the issue, clearly and completely, we will ignore you
[10:59] <BACbKA> insserv: Default-Start undefined, assuming empty start runlevel(s) for script `screen-cleanup'
[10:59] <cfhowlett> !details | Hiteshthandel
[10:59] <ducasse> BACbKA: can you pastebin output?
[10:59] <Hiteshthandel> Okay listen I'll say it in one paragraph
[11:00] <ducasse> Hiteshthandel: if you deleted the esp you need to recreate it.
[11:00] <BACbKA> ducasse insserv: Script virtuoso-nepomuk is broken: missing end of LSB comment. insserv: exiting now! update-rc.d: error: insserv rejected the script header
[11:00]  * BACbKA not flooding :)
[11:02] <ducasse> BACbKA: i meant a pastebin, to avoid flooding, but if that's all.. what package is that from?
[11:02] <eeriiret00> hi
[11:02] <BACbKA> http://pastebin.com/Jp71N8VG
[11:03] <eeriiret00> how do i maximize the game windows? for several games there is no maximizing option??
[11:03] <eeriiret00> any shortcut?
[11:04] <ducasse> BACbKA: there is no such file in the repos, could it be from a ppa?
[11:04] <eeriiret00> there is no working shortcut?
[11:04] <BACbKA> ducasse are you talking about virtuoso-nepomuk ? I'm researching it myself as we speak
[11:04] <ikonia> surely not - a PPA breaking an upgrade....thats a new situation
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[11:05] <BACbKA> Description: transitional package for virtuoso-minimal
[11:05] <ducasse> BACbKA: yep. can you move it out of the way or purge the package it's from?
[11:05] <BACbKA>  virtuoso-nepomuk Status: deinstall ok config-files
[11:06] <BACbKA> yes, I'll try to purge that one first and hopefully it will remove the hook into hostname config post-install
[11:07] <BACbKA> purged virtuoso-nepomuk successfully
[11:07] <Hiteshthandel> http://pastebin.com/RNP3W93A
[11:07] <BACbKA> wahoooooooooooOOO!!!! apt-get -f dist-upgrade now processing further
[11:08] <ducasse> BACbKA: \o/
[11:08] <BACbKA> thanks ducasse, the reboot into upstart mode was a very cool tip
[11:08] <ducasse> BACbKA: hope you can get it back to a sane state now :)
[11:09] <Hiteshthandel> Help me  plzthere  is a pastebin link to my problem
[11:09] <BACbKA> ducasse: thank you
[11:09] <ducasse> Hiteshthandel: you need to recreate the efi partition from a live usb.
[11:09] <ducasse> BACbKA: np.
[11:09] <cfhowlett> Hiteshthandel, ubuntu does not prevent you from accessing your bios with f2.  try again.  as far as your ubuntu set up, you'll need to recreate the deleted partition.  boot your ubuntu USB and do so or (my recommendation ...) reinstall
[11:10] <Hiteshthandel> I've tried thousand times but it only says please wait and then it brings me to the same dos window of boot/appmenu. I'm unable to boot any usb dvd that's the problem
[11:13] <ducasse> Hiteshthandel: ubuntu has no effect on whether or not you can enter the bios.
[11:13] <Hiteshthandel> But this happened after i installed Ubuntu
[11:13] <Hiteshthandel> How is that even possible that it corrupted my bios or firmware
[11:14] <cfhowlett> Hiteshthandel, it did not.
[11:14] <ducasse> Hiteshthandel: it happened after you deleted the esp. you must have done something else.
[11:15] <Hiteshthandel> I remember once when i spoiled my windows mbr on my primary partition i faced that dos windows but it had two entried then "my hard drive" and "my dvd rom" why the hell does it only showing me ubuntu in that now
[11:15] <cfhowlett> Hiteshthandel, we have no way of knowing what non-standard modifications you may have performed
[11:16] <ducasse> Hiteshthandel: that is probably the efi firmware variable pointing to the bootloader you have deleted.
[11:16] <Hiteshthandel> Fuck u
[11:16] <ducasse> Hiteshthandel: behave.
[11:16] <noobuntu> I'm trying to launch Nautilus as root by default from the launcher. I edited ~/.local/share/applications/nautilus.desktop like shown here (http://askubuntu.com/questions/156998/how-do-i-start-nautilus-as-root/362863#362863) but it's not working. Any other way?
[11:16] <cfhowlett> Hiteshthandel, clean up your language and attitude.
[11:16] <Hiteshthandel> Alright
[11:18] <Hiteshthandel> I didn't do anything except of deleting that partition but how do i recreate that variable pointing shortcut
[11:18] <conversnew> helllo
[11:18] <conversnew> hello
[11:18] <ducasse> Hiteshthandel: you need to boot from a usb/dvd.
[11:18] <cfhowlett> conversnew, ask your ubuntu questions
[11:19] <conversnew> how do i view the contents of clipboard after i press ctlr+print and it stores the images?
[11:19] <Hiteshthandel> But I'm unable to boot into anything I've tried multiple isos including windows xp 7 10 arch linux peppermint linux chrome os porteus kali
[11:20] <MonkeyDust> conversnew  there's 'glipper'
[11:20] <conversnew> o so i have to install it
[11:20] <Hiteshthandel> I've seen that when i use the dvd install the led on my dvd rom beeps for a while on stopping on samsung logo. But the same ubuntu app/boot menu screen appears
[11:21] <MonkeyDust> !info glipper | conversnew
[11:21] <ducasse> Hiteshthandel: try in ##hardware if you can't boot an iso, it's not ubuntu-related.
[11:22] <Hiteshthandel> Why is the only thing that i can see is ubuntu
[11:22] <Hiteshthandel> **ubuntu
[11:22] <guzzlefry> Is there a recommended system monitor app these days?
[11:22] <ducasse> Hiteshthandel: i told you, it's a firmware variable pointing to the bootloader that no longer exists because you deleted it.
[11:23] <noobuntu> Hi guys I need some help. Where did the Browse network option go in Nautilus in 16.04?
[11:24] <cfhowlett> noobuntu, still on mine.  scroll down the page?
[11:25] <Hiteshthandel> Are you still there?
[11:25] <Hiteshthandel> http://pastebin.com/RNP3W93A
 Hiteshthandel: try in ##hardware if you can't boot an iso, it's not ubuntu-related.
[11:26] <Hiteshthandel> That channel is not recieving my messages
[11:26] <ducasse> !register | Hiteshthandel
[11:27] <paul0897> hi
[11:27] <Hiteshthandel> Ok
[11:27] <noobuntu> cfhowlet https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/1548977 It's a bug. What to make of this?
[11:27] <noobuntu> cfhowlett
[11:27] <test_> hello how do I add programs on my desktop?
[11:27] <ducasse> noobuntu: "fix released"
[11:28] <cfhowlett> noobuntu, looks to be a bug.  if this is effecting you, add your name to the list
[11:28] <ikonia> and there is a fix released
[11:28] <ikonia> it even details the package version
[11:28] <noobuntu> how do i get the fix?
[11:28] <ikonia> look at the package version
[11:29] <noobuntu> I have all updates installed
[11:29] <ikonia> do you have that packge version
[11:30] <noobuntu> ikonia how to check?
[11:30] <ikonia> look at the package version in the package manager
[11:31] <noobuntu> I will need to install synaptic right?
[11:31] <ikonia> software center should show it
[11:31] <paul0897> hi
[11:33] <noobuntu> It says This bug was fixed in the package nautilus - 1:3.18.4.is.3.14.3-0ubuntu3. I have 1:3.18.4.is.3.14.3-0ubuntu4.
[11:33] <ikonia> so that is later than tht
[11:33] <ikonia> so there maybe a regression
[11:34] <noobuntu> What does that mean?
[11:34] <ikonia> it means the fix may have been undone in the later package
[11:35] <test_> Can anyone tell me how to put programs on the desktop or does it always have to be in the launcher?
[11:35] <EriC^^> test_: type nautilus /usr/share/applications and copy and paste them in the desktop
[11:36] <test_> in the terminal?
[11:36] <EriC^^> yeah
[11:39] <test_> thank you dude
[11:39] <EriC^^> test_: no problem
[11:44] <test_> i must say it is kinda an uncomfortable way to put files on your desktop
[11:45] <cfhowlett> unity designers prefer not to have desktop launchers.  see #convergence
[11:47] <test_> and can someone tell me a programming software i can try?
[11:47] <cfhowlett> test_, seriously?  pick any one of the hundreds for yourself
[11:48] <ducasse> !ide | test_
[11:48] <MonkeyDust> test_  in nautilus, surf to /usr/share/applications/ and drag an icon to the desktop
[11:48] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:49] <MonkeyDust> s/surf/navigate
[11:56] <stanton> I have a TVTuner card built into my desktop i record TV broadcasts and watch them later like a DVR i use a 3tb hdd for this. i have chromecast on my tv that we watch our shows on my issue is videostream was to sluggish and i'm trying plex media server but it does not detect my videos. the recording function records my videos into m2t format i have tried converting them all to mkv but plex media server does not detect these files. so is
[11:56] <stanton> there an alterantive to plex media server and videostream to watch my recordings on chromecast?
[11:58] <bekks> stanton: Why dont you use a video format that is recognized by your chromecast?
[12:00] <ducasse> stanton: there is a media server called emby that works well with mobile clients etc, but i know nothing about chromecast...
[12:07] <noobuntu> How to view real name of .desktop files in /usr/share/application/ folder?
[12:08] <ducasse> noobuntu: you need to open them, i expect.
[12:10] <noobuntu> Opening them launches them. Like nautilus.desktop shows up as 'Files' and I can edit it with gedit. But there's no way for me to know this (tutorials told me). ducasse
[12:10] <ioria> cat file.desktop  | grep Name    or grep Name  file.desktop
[12:11] <noobuntu> cd to /usr/share/applications before ioria?
[12:11] <ioria> noobuntu, sure
[12:11] <bekks> grep Name /usr/share/applications/file.desktop
[12:12] <bekks> No need for cd
[12:16] <noobuntu> Right so this is not what I need. I know it shows in file manager as "Files". I need to know it's real file name which is xxxxx.desktop.
[12:17] <EriC^^> noobuntu: grep -i "Name=Files" /usr/share/applications/*
[12:17] <stanton> bekks because the recorder has no option to choose any other format and videostream was able to play m2t and the mkv which is supported by chromecast. but videostream had issues with video playback being sluggish and audio cutting out and rest of the time it played fine.
[12:18] <stanton> ducasse: i'll check that out maybe it'll work with chromecast
[12:18] <ducasse> stanton: i checked now, says chromecast is supported.
[12:20] <realpanv> Hey, I want to access a partition with corrupt windows which wasn't fully shutdown
[12:21] <cfhowlett> realpanv, nope. windows very effectively locks up incorrect shutdowns.  forcing it is a bad idea
[12:21] <noobuntu> Thanks EriC^^ and others.
[12:21] <realpanv> cfhowlett: thanks. I remember doing it with EriC^^ once and it worked but whatever. Thanks anyways.
[12:22] <realpanv> And thanks for the tip
[12:22] <realpanv> I'll remember that one
[12:22] <ducasse> realpanv: you can try ntfsfix, but i wouldn't recommend it.
[12:23] <SchrodingersScat> esp. since I don't see it in the repos, so it's likely not a properly 'supported' solution
[12:23] <SchrodingersScat> !info ntfs-3g | realpanv actually it is
[12:23] <EriC^^> realpanv: you need to just read or also write to it?
[12:23] <SchrodingersScat> but still listen to the others
[12:31] <stanton> ducasse: i try adding my folder i get "There was an error adding the media path. Please ensure the path is valid and the Emby Server process has access to that location."  my folder is located in "/media/user/Seagate Expansion Drive/Live TV"
[12:32] <noobuntu> So I deleted my nautilus.desktop from /usr/share/applications, put an edited version with a root window action (http://paste.ubuntu.com/21511872/) and now it won't show up in dash search. How can I add it to my desktop?
[12:32] <noobuntu> to my launcher sry
[12:33] <yorwos>  du -hx shows me that /var/tmp takes 1.1GB space, but all i see are empty directories inside
[12:33] <guzzlefry> Can someone confirm that xfsprogs is what I need to install in order to enable XFS support in gparted?
[12:33] <yorwos> how can i make room in /var/temp ?
[12:33] <ducasse> stanton: it's a long time since i set up emby, try in #emby for help with it.
[12:34] <stanton> ducasse: i think it's due to the spaces in the folder names. not that i just made sure permissions are set. and thanks i'll head over there
[12:35] <ducasse> noobuntu: i think the .desktop files are cached on startup, maybe update-desktop-database will help.
[12:36] <ducasse> guzzlefry: should be, the kernel module is already present.
[12:37] <kodi_> hi, want sound from HDMI on TV, some help?
[12:38] <EriC^^> kodi_: go to settings > sound > hdmi
[12:39] <kodi_> EriC^^, thanks for the tip, but no luck that way. Pavucontol doesn't show anything. I was thinking this could help: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PulseAudio/Examples#Automatically_switch_audio_to_HDMI.
[12:40] <kodi_> I came to udev rule can't directly run a script, a workaround is to use a .service to run this script, don't know how to execute that.
[12:40] <kodi_> read under: Automatically switch audio to HDMI.
[12:42] <ducasse> kodi_: pavucontrol shows no hdmi output device?
[12:43] <guzzlefry> So, I had this external drive formatted as NTFS, and when plugged in my user could write to it. I reformatted as XFS, and now I don't have ownership of it even though it was automatically mounted under /media/my_user/drive_label/. How do I fix this?
[12:44] <kodi_> ducasse, no HDMI audio device, I got HDAJackRetask to give that to me. By the way I ran a Lubuntu version before and it was the same, now I am running the Kodibuntu Lubuntu version :O.
[12:44] <ducasse> guzzlefry: 'chown' it to your user.
[12:45] <cfhowlett> kodi_, as stated in the topic, we can only support official ubuntus.  go to kodibuntu for support
[12:46] <sslove> i recommend u try ubuntu studio as it is specifically built for multimedia
[12:46] <guzzlefry> oh...easier than I thought :P
[12:46] <cfhowlett> sslove, @ who?
[12:46] <sslove> @kodi
[12:46] <kodi_> cfhowlett, and when I had a issue with my nvidia card they guided me to Ubuntu's channel. You have responsibility over video and those at kodibuntu manages the sound part?
[12:46] <sslove> cfhowlett, obviously
[12:47] <ducasse> kodi_: we have responsibility for none of it.
[12:47] <cfhowlett> kodi_, kodibuntu as a whole is outside our area.  we have no idea/control of what changes other OS's make so we cannot support them
[12:47] <cfhowlett> !who | sslove
[12:48] <sslove> ubottu, i understand
[12:48] <kodi_> but can you explain this step to me: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PulseAudio/Examples#Automatically_switch_audio_to_HDMI, under Automatically switch audio to HDMI?
[12:49] <cfhowlett> kodi_, arch produces some fine tutorials but note that archlinux != ubuntu.  proceed at your own risk
[12:51] <kodi_> cfhowlett, So it will not work, and what does archlinux != ubuntu mean?
[12:51] <ducasse> kodi_: it means arch and ubuntu are two different things.
[12:51] <cfhowlett> kodi_, I didn't say it would not work.  !=   means "does not equal".
[12:51] <kodi_> cfhowlett, allright
[12:53] <bavarian> qui
[12:55] <EriC^^> kodi_: try if the command works first
[12:56] <EriC^^> sudo -u "$USER_NAME" pactl --server "$PULSE_SERVER" set-card-profile 0 output:hdmi-stereo+input:analog-stereo
[12:56] <EriC^^> (get the variables from above in the script)
[12:58] <EriC^^> kodi_: use at your own risk though
[12:59] <kodi_> EriC^^, But I don't know how to execute /etc/udev/rules.d/99-hdmi_sound.rules: is it some command or what?
[12:59] <EriC^^> kodi_: does the command work?
[13:00] <kodi_> EriC^^, read the post I sent :)
[13:00] <EriC^^> it works here, but my hdmi shows up in settings > sound
[13:00] <EriC^^> i read it, i mean try this command first to see if it manually works
[13:00] <EriC^^> sudo -u e pactl --server unix:/run/user/1000/pulse/native set-card-profile 0 output:hdmi-stereo+input:analog-stereo
[13:00] <sparkly> Anyone can point to a good source of info / discussion on the ubuntu system / user / swap encryption capabilities?
[13:00] <EriC^^> type id and get your id and username, mine is e and 1000, replace yours with what you get
[13:01] <afif> Can someone help me with a question. I will give the stackoverflow link here.
[13:01] <afif> Here it is
[13:01] <afif> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/38628891/broken-pipe-error-python-while-trying-to-netcat-large-file-into-termbin-com\
[13:01] <afif> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/38628891/broken-pipe-error-python-while-trying-to-netcat-large-file-into-termbin-com
[13:01] <kodi_> EriC^^, need som terminal, can't paste text in the one I am using now. some tip?
[13:01] <cfhowlett> afif might be better asked in the python channel
[13:01] <afif> Can't seem to resolve this.. nomatter what I try
[13:01] <EriC^^> afif: how large a file? termbin has a 32768 buffer
[13:02] <afif> 1MB
[13:02] <afif> whever I do the thing with cat command it works just fine
[13:02] <afif> cat oneMBFile.txt | nc termbin.com 9999
[13:02] <afif> This works just fine
[13:02] <afif> But with python the problem is there.
[13:03] <EriC^^> smaller files also?
[13:03] <afif> No
[13:03] <afif> 671872
[13:03] <afif> bytes
[13:03] <afif> is the limit
[13:03] <afif> Around that I suppose
[13:04] <EriC^^> kodi_: use /exec <command here>
[13:04] <Exec> ?
[13:04] <Exec> oh
[13:04] <EriC^^> :D
[13:05] <afif> that was funny :D
[13:06] <EriC^^> afif: i guess it's a python thing
[13:06] <afif> There is another strange thing
[13:07] <afif> I tried spawing the cat command as subprocess using os.system('cat oneMb.txt ... ')
[13:07] <afif> still it had that broken pipe error
[13:07] <afif> What's the reason behind broken pipe anyway?
[13:08] <EriC^^> i think if the connection doesn't respond after a time it does that
[13:09] <afif> Eric^^ I guess it happens because python is slow compared to bash.
[13:09] <afif> But even when I read characters one by one from a file.. it takes the exact same time
[13:09] <afif> and exact same problem after that many bytes
[13:09] <EriC^^> maybe it has to do with termbin's code
[13:10] <afif> Maybe
[13:10] <afif> Any ideas to find a way around it?
[13:10] <EriC^^> this is termbin's code https://github.com/solusipse/fiche/blob/master/fiche.c
[13:11] <EriC^^> line 117 is when it receives the connection
[13:11] <afif> I have read it actually
[13:11] <afif> Have you worked on termbin?
[13:11] <SchrodingersScat> afaik there's also a limit to the buffer you can set, when your run fiche
[13:12] <afif> I am pretty sure the buffer limit is high as the plain way through linux shell works perfectly even for 4 megabytes of files
[13:12] <EriC^^> afif: i've modded it to do another pastebin site once
[13:12] <EriC^^> it might have to do with the MSG_WAITALL part
[13:13] <afif> What does MSG_WAITALL do?
[13:14] <afif> Anybody got an idea to go around this? Perhaps some other site with a cleaner api?
[13:15] <JakesDen> What can i do if i need packages from a ppa but the packages are for a older version of ubuntu, i know from previous trys all the packages work fine in the newer version of ubuntu anyway. what do i do?
[13:15] <EriC^^> afif: ill try to fork it real quick and see if it works
[13:16] <afif> Ok. Cool
[13:16] <afif> Thanks
[13:16] <afif> I should search for another site. Easier way
[13:18] <ducasse> JakesDen: if the ppa is no longer updated anyway, then just download the .deb files
[13:18] <JakesDen> that would take too much time
[13:19] <JakesDen> is there a way to make it use the packages for the older version instead
[13:19] <EriC^^> afif: there's io.ix and sprunge.us too
[13:19] <afif> Eric^^ Running on fiche or something else?
[13:20] <EriC^^> it's curl based
[13:20] <EriC^^> afif: the free shell i have won't let me start it on any port :/
[13:20] <ducasse> JakesDen: sure, tell the .list file to ask for packages for the version the ppa has packages for, but it's a very ugly hack.
[13:20] <JakesDen> ducasse, how do i do that?
[13:21] <afif> Thanks Eric^^ .
[13:21] <JakesDen> and is there a way to install all packages from a ppa?
[13:21] <ducasse> JakesDen: just put for example 'trusty' instead of 'xenial' in the version field.
[13:21] <JakesDen> ok
[13:22] <EriC^^> afif: made another free shell, hold on
[13:22] <EriC^^> :D
[13:22] <ducasse> JakesDen: no way that i know to install all packages, apt will choose the packages with the highest version.
[13:23] <afif> What free shell
[13:23] <JakesDen> ok, thanks!
[13:23] <noobuntu> Hi, I'm trying to launch nautilus as root by editing the .desktop file. If I use gksu nautilus, it opens with a weird theme, no icons, and only 2-3 sidebar items. sudo nautilus from the terminal works great but I'm told I can't use it in the .desktop file. What to do?
[13:23] <kodi_> EriC^^, Guess it didn't work: http://pastebin.com/uW2zL8gn.
[13:25] <philinux> noobuntu;~ you need the policykit files. sudo apt install nautilus-admin
[13:25] <philinux> noobuntu;~ then you can use pkexec
[13:26] <EriC^^> afif: get ready to try it out :D
[13:27] <afif> sure
[13:27] <afif> Which one?
[13:27] <philinux> noobuntu;~ or use sudo -H nautilus
[13:29] <EriC^^> afif: i've been banned from this free shell before cause of running fiche so we have to make it quick before they find out
[13:29] <afif> All right
[13:30] <afif> Am quick
[13:30] <EriC^^> afif: echo bla | nc shell.xshellz.com 10111
[13:30] <EriC^^> i compiled it with MSG_DONTWAIT
[13:30] <EriC^^> ok i received here
[13:30] <EriC^^> worked for you?
[13:30] <afif> ya
[13:31] <afif> DNS server couldnot be found thought
[13:31] <EriC^^> let me check file siZE
[13:31] <afif> when I put the URL
[13:31] <afif> This was a small sized file
[13:31] <EriC^^> i actually received 2 btw
[13:31] <EriC^^> 2 files
[13:31] <EriC^^> you did only one?
[13:32] <afif> Na I did two
[13:32] <EriC^^> oh ok
[13:32] <afif> Let me try a 4MB file with python
[13:32] <afif> thing
[13:32] <EriC^^> ok
[13:32] <EriC^^> it said here
[13:32] <EriC^^> Invalid connection.
[13:32] <EriC^^> and the client info below with your host and ip
[13:33] <EriC^^> let me see in the cod what gives that error
[13:33] <afif> Is it still up?
[13:33] <EriC^^> yeah
[13:34] <EriC^^> it gives that error from line 476 https://github.com/solusipse/fiche/blob/master/fiche.c
[13:35] <EriC^^> it's basically checking if you're using netcat or not
[13:35] <afif> Well thats strange
[13:35] <EriC^^> if it sees GET or POST in it + HTTP/1. , or if the buffer is less than 3 it gives that error
[13:35] <afif> But I am not receiving the broken pipe now
[13:35] <afif> though
[13:36] <afif> Whats the latest activity from my side
[13:36] <EriC^^> let me see what it has
[13:36] <EriC^^> i got a bunch of invalid connection
[13:36] <EriC^^> no new files saved
[13:36] <EriC^^> let me recompile it to ignore that error checking
[13:36] <afif> Check the latest activity after 10 seconds
[13:36] <afif> Last try
[13:36] <EriC^^> ok
[13:37] <EriC^^> invalid
[13:37] <EriC^^> also
[13:37] <afif> Ok
[13:37] <fadavi> anyone here has been tested mac osx in vbox?
[13:37] <afif> Now?
[13:37] <cfhowlett> fadavi, ask #vbox
[13:38] <fadavi> cfhowlett: asked there, too
[13:38] <Codfection> why is ubuntu so laggy on my vm?
[13:38] <EriC^^> afif: try now
[13:38] <afif> Ok
[13:38] <sparkly> Not on topic but: you people who have the patience to hang out in forums like this and help people are cool. You deserve a hug and a beer. Wish i had it in me.
[13:38] <EriC^^> it was saved
[13:38] <afif> I got broken pipe
[13:38] <afif> full 1 MB data did not got
[13:38] <afif> *go
[13:39] <afif> Tried to send exact 1048576 characters
[13:39] <EriC^^> ah 0 byte file here
[13:39] <cfhowlett> Codfection, depends on how you set up your vbox.  note: ubuntu with unity is resource hungry
[13:39] <noobuntu> philinux installed nautilus-admin and using pkexec it still looks the same (http://i.imgur.com/2Da1SCb.png) when it should look like (http://i.imgur.com/2mpnwa4.png)
[13:40] <afif> And no errors to why?
[13:40] <EriC^^> afif: maybe i'll try with a larger buffer?
[13:40] <afif> Sure
[13:40] <EriC^^> nope it acted like it worked here, but the file was 0
[13:40] <afif> If it aint too much trouble
[13:40] <EriC^^> sure np
[13:40] <philinux> noobuntu;~ in the first example click on computer then your user
[13:41] <EriC^^> afif: ok try now
[13:41] <philinux> noobuntu;~ be very careful with this you can bork your system.
[13:42] <afif> Its running
[13:42] <EriC^^> afif: nope 0 byte too
[13:42] <noobuntu> philinux I can acess folders fine. It's the sidebar items that are missing and the weird theme and icons when using pkexec/gksu
[13:42] <afif> But its stuck
[13:42] <EriC^^> afif: aha
[13:42] <ikonia> noobuntu: you are going to wreck your system
[13:42] <BACbKA> ho ho ho!!! trusty->xenial upgrade almost done recovery from a failed upgrade
[13:42] <philinux> noobuntu;~ I use sudo -H nautilus
[13:42] <ikonia> there should be very few reasons to use nautlius as root
[13:43] <ikonia> BACbKA: don't ned a commentary
[13:43] <EriC^^> afif: it just did another
[13:43] <philinux> noobuntu;~ but very rarely
[13:43] <afif> Its stuck while sending
[13:43] <afif> Again
[13:43] <BACbKA> however my 'kdm' doesn't launch
[13:43] <afif> Whats your buffer size?
[13:43] <ikonia> BACbKA: don't need a commentary
[13:43] <EriC^^> i put the buffer to 640000
[13:44] <afif> what was the prev size?
[13:44] <EriC^^> 32768
[13:44] <BACbKA> does anyone have a tip on having kdm to start in xenial? I just did a 'dpkg-reconfigure kdm' and verified it is the default
[13:44] <noobuntu> philinux still the same with sudo -H nautilus
[13:44] <noobuntu> ikonia what should i use then?
[13:44] <ikonia> BACbKA: enable it as a service in sysemd
[13:44] <afif> No idea why it keeps happening
[13:44] <ikonia> noobuntu: I'm not actually clear what your problem is
[13:44] <EriC^^> should i try 64000 ?
[13:44] <afif> Ya
[13:44] <ikonia> noobuntu: why are you trying to launch it as root
[13:45] <BACbKA> ikonia: you mean, in addition to it already been selected as the default wm?
[13:45] <BACbKA> I mean, session manager
[13:45] <philinux> noobuntu;~ to be honest if I need to edit a system file say something grub related I use nano
[13:45] <EriC^^> afif: ok give it a shot
[13:45] <ikonia> BACbKA: what do you mean in addition ?
[13:45] <afif> Stuck again
[13:45] <noobuntu> ikonia I'd like to launch it as root sometimes to edit setings files, change permissions for folders, enable network shares, etc
[13:46] <ikonia> noobuntu: pretty much none of that should require nautlius as root
[13:46] <afif> I tried a different way now
[13:46] <afif> still stuck
[13:46] <Guest14987> that's fine
[13:46] <EriC^^> afif: let me try with MSG_WAITALL again
[13:46] <noobuntu> ikonia so you're going to say I should learn command line?
[13:46] <BACbKA> ikonia: hmmm... Failed to start kdm.service: Unit kdm.service not found.
[13:47] <ikonia> noobuntu: no, not at all
[13:47] <FlipBill> BACbKA, pardon me, just stepped back to 'puter... I take it you are a KDE user?
[13:47] <ikonia> noobuntu: can you give me an example of something you'd want ot change
[13:47] <afif> ok
[13:47] <EriC^^> afif: ok go for it
[13:47] <ikonia> BACbKA: what command did you run ?
[13:47] <BACbKA> flipbill: yes, this is a kubuntu upgrade
[13:47] <EriC^^> afif: MSG_WAITALL and buffer 64000
[13:47] <BACbKA> ikonia: systemctl start kdm
[13:47] <afif> Broken pipe
[13:47] <afif> anything?
[13:47] <FlipBill> BACbKA, FWIW, I just moved back to 14.04 from 16.04 because I was forced to use KDE5.  Missing features.
[13:48] <ikonia> BACbKA: so that means there is no service called kdm
[13:48] <EriC^^> afif: yup 64000bytes
[13:48] <BACbKA> FlipBill: ocuh
[13:48] <ikonia> BACbKA: you need to look at if that is meant to be, or if something else controls it
[13:48] <noobuntu> ikonia lets say I want to edit /usr/share/onboard/themes/Charcoal.colors
[13:48] <EriC^^> afif: of the letter "a" :D
[13:48] <EriC^^> afif: success :P
[13:48] <ikonia> noobuntu: ok - what's stopping you
[13:48] <afif> Not really I had give 1 MB
[13:48] <afif> Everything did not go
[13:48] <EriC^^> afif: yeah but it received those though
[13:48] <EriC^^> shall i try a larger buffer?
[13:49] <afif> Sure
[13:49] <BACbKA> ikonia: you'd think that kdm being installed and configured would take care of that itself?
[13:49] <ikonia> BACbKA: no
[13:49] <noobuntu> If I open it from Nautilus without root permissions it opens in gedit but can't be saved (read only). Need root permissions to open it in write mode.
[13:49] <noobuntu> ikonia
[13:50] <FlipBill> BACbKA, I configured a KVM inside my desktop just to run kernel ZFS of Xenial.  Have you used KDE5 yet?
[13:50] <ikonia> noobuntu: there should be an option to open with root if you right click it
[13:50] <EriC^^> afif: try it
[13:50] <ikonia> (the file)
[13:50] <EriC^^> afif: buffer 1000000
[13:50] <BACbKA> FlipBill: not yet
[13:50] <afif> Stuck
[13:50] <noobuntu> ikonia but if you open Nautilus with root you don't have to enter password for every file you open
[13:50] <EriC^^> afif: i received 451776bytes
[13:50] <FlipBill> BACbKA, I'll be interested in your impressions when you do.
[13:50] <EriC^^> what was the number you said before?
[13:51] <afif> One diff way
[13:51] <ikonia> noobuntu: you don't have to do that if you set the sudo rules
[13:51] <afif> And for the 2nd one? Now?
[13:51] <EriC^^> 432583 bytes
[13:51] <ikonia> noobuntu: you just said it's rare you'd want to open a file as root - so just type the pasword
[13:51] <BACbKA> FlipBill: OK, I'll stop trying to beat the session manager into submission and run "startkde" instead of "startx" now...
[13:52] <afif> Well
[13:52] <afif> What else can we do
[13:52] <afif> Thanks anyways
[13:52] <noobuntu> ikonia what about changing permissions of folders my usr doesn't own?
[13:52] <ikonia> noobuntu: can you give me an example of that
[13:52] <EriC^^> afif: no problem
[13:52] <afif> You helped a lot Eric^^
[13:54] <adrian_1908> hello. I noticed that my system upgraded a package "shim-signed" which has the description "Secure Boot chain-loading bootloader (Microsoft-signed binary)". Is that a regular part of Ubuntu?
[13:54] <ikonia> adrian_1908: yes
[13:55] <noobuntu> Lets say I want to enable local network share on /usr/share/gimp/2.0/themes. I can't without root Nautilus because root is owner.
[13:55] <adrian_1908> ikonia: ok, thanks.
[13:55] <ikonia> noobuntu: of course you can - the "share" interface will allow that
[13:56] <noobuntu> ikonia 'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare add: cannot share path /usr/share/gimp/2.0/themes as we are restricted to only sharing directories we own.
[13:56] <ikonia> noobuntu: so thats not unreasonable, but again - for those "rare" occasions, just launch nautlius as root, eg: gksu or sudo -H
[13:57] <ikonia> noobuntu: messing with policy kit from your proven inability to make system changes will wreck your system
[13:57] <ikonia> you say it's very rare you'd want to do those functions, so use real world use cases to do it
[13:58] <ikonia> rather than risk messing up your system then being back in here in a days time saying "I can't do anything, policy kit says I'm blocked form everything"
[13:58] <noobuntu> ikonia yeah it's more of a matter of convenience. btw only sudo nautilus works from the terminal right now. gksu and sudo -H both give the weird theme/no icons Nautilus
[13:58] <cfhowlett> noobuntu, what he said.
[13:59] <ikonia> noobuntu: "sudo nautlius" is not convient ?
[13:59] <ikonia> noobuntu: as you say it's very rare you'd need to do this, so launching it as root for those odd moments is not convenient ?
[13:59] <ikonia> and to be honest - you should think long and hard before trying to share anything owned by root
[13:59] <ikonia> it's owned by root for a reason
[13:59] <noobuntu> ikonia I'm not saying it isn't. Just trying to understand why this is happening
[14:00] <ikonia> why what is happening ?
[14:00] <BACbKA> FlipBill: a bit weird and i think slightly more sluggish
[14:00] <noobuntu> weird themes, no icons, files missng when using gksu or sudo -H or pkexec
[14:00] <noobuntu> ikonia
[14:01] <noobuntu> but fine with sudo
[14:01] <ikonia> noobuntu: I suspect it's missing those things because you run sudo nautlius first
[14:01] <ikonia> so now all the config/session is owned by root
[14:01] <ikonia> so when you gksu it's not able to update them
[14:01] <ikonia> (I'm guessing)
[14:02] <BACbKA> FlipBill: I need to check that no kde components got dropped in the upgrade though...
[14:02] <pa> hi
[14:02] <pa> im trying to boot 14.04 from a usb stick on a pc
[14:02] <pa> i get the initial ubuntu live screen
[14:02] <pa> i configure language and keymap
[14:03] <noobuntu> thanks ikonia and everyone else.
[14:03] <pa> but when i press enter to start booting, it hangs on a black screen with cursor, and usb key stops blinking (like it doesnt load anything anymore)
[14:03] <pa> what can i do?
[14:04] <cfhowlett> pa wait what?  if you are seeing the configuration screen it has ALREADY booted
[14:04] <pa> yes
[14:04] <pa> but then when it has to start loading the live system it stops
[14:04] <pa> the same stick i used on another pc to install it and it worked fine
[14:04] <cfhowlett> pa did you boot directly to "install" or "try" ubuntu
[14:05] <pa> i selected "try ubuntu"
[14:05] <cfhowlett> pa  okay  reboot and try going directly to "install"
[14:05] <pa> okay i try
[14:05] <pa> thanks
[14:05] <cfhowlett> happy2help!
[14:07] <pa> cfhowlett, so if i do that, it happens the same
[14:08] <pa> black screen with blinking cursor, nothing gets loaded from the usb
[14:08] <culler> I did the update from 14.04 to 16.04.1, it had errors and will only boot in emergency mode now
[14:08] <pa> (e.g., no blinking)
[14:08] <cfhowlett> pa that is NOT the same, is it?
[14:09] <pa> yes it's the same as if i choose try ubuntu
[14:09] <pa> black screen with blinking cursor
[14:09] <cfhowlett> pa you previously stated you configured the keymap.  so it DID boot.
[14:09] <pa> yes
[14:09] <pa> keymap on the menu "try ubuntu/install"
[14:09] <pa> like with F2 and F3
[14:16] <rootoslav> are people coming here every day?
[14:17] <FlipBill> BACbKA, do you use multiple desktops?  Tabbed windows?
[14:17] <FlipBill> BACbKA, try right-clicking an application icon to change it's start parameters or other stuff.
[14:18] <BACbKA> FlipBill: right now I am back to ratpoison + konsole for the time of upgrade, but I'll try
[14:18] <BACbKA> FlipBill: I was unable to drag windows around
[14:18] <FlipBill> BACbKA, ouch.  At least that worked for me.
[14:18] <philinux> rootoslav;~ not every day but some do
[14:19] <BACbKA> FlipBill: I suspect during the upgrade some kde packages got missing
[14:19] <BACbKA> FlipBill: I'm checking
[14:19] <BACbKA> FlipBill: and I still have to figure out how to make kdm start as the session manager
[14:20] <rootoslav> @/msg philinux thanks for answer bro, first time here
[14:23] <FlipBill> BACbKA, I had issues with DM on some machines too.  Used sddm for awhile.  Ultimately resolved with clean install, IIRC.  Not upgrade.
[14:25] <FlipBill> BACbKA, unable to set different attributes on different desktops is deliberate omission by developers.  There is some talk about restoring it but they initially refused.  Told people to use Activities instead.
[14:26] <FlipBill> BACbKA, missing window tab feature is in Errata.  I don't know if/when that will be restored.
[14:26] <FlipBill> BACbKA, they are bot features I relied on heavily.
[14:27] <FlipBill> Inability to click/modify icon links to apps is just lame.  I don't know how they could EOL KDE4 with 5 in such an incomplete state.
[14:27] <FlipBill> Very disappointing.
[14:29] <ducasse> BACbKA: you're back - i guess that means you're not up and running yet? (too lazy to read my backlog)
[14:30] <BACbKA> ducasse: I am almost there
[14:30] <BACbKA> ducasse: trying to make kdm start as my session manager now
[14:32] <BACbKA> I see that x-session-manager is provided by a lot of things, and on my system I have gnome-session and gnome-session-flashback installed. "dpkg-reconfigure kdm" had me select kdm out of kdm, gdm3, and sddm. Still when i boot I get no graphics, just the text consoles, and have to startx manually
[14:32] <ducasse> BACbKA: isn't that now called sddm?
[14:39] <BACbKA> ducasse: aha, while installing sddm I noticed this error: ERROR: /lib/systemd/system/kdm.service is the selected default display manager but does not exist
[14:39] <BACbKA> ducasse: I see! I am with an obsolete kdm on the machine!!!
[14:40] <BACbKA> ducasse: I noticed kdm is installed but didn't notice it is a local/obsolete pkg now
[14:40] <BACbKA> ducasse: removing it...
[14:41] <BACbKA> ducasse: upon remove, it reconfigures the default dm to be one of gdm3 and sddm now -- selecting sddm
[14:41] <ducasse> BACbKA: should help :)
[14:42] <BACbKA> ducasse: funny that gdm3 isn't installed though, something is still broken with the session manager registration
[14:42] <BACbKA> ducasse: ok, I'm terminating the manual x session...
[14:42] <Namiko> How to disable screensaver on the 12.04?
[14:43] <Namiko> How to disable screensaver on the 12.04?
[14:45] <Namiko> How to disable screensaver on the 12.04?
[14:54] <giru> after upgrading to 14.04 lts to 16.04 my front jack of cpu stop working but back jack of cpu work fine , I want my jack working but how??
[14:55] <guzzlefry> Don't suppose anyone's ran into a disappearing mouse cursor in Xubuntu? :)
[14:55] <guzzlefry> It's still there, I just can't see it other than the reaction from buttons being hovered over...
[14:55] <ctjctj> giru have you looked at your sound settings?
[14:58] <giru> no
[14:58] <giru> ctjctj
[14:59] <jordan__zzz> guzzlefry what DE are you using? Unity?
[14:59] <guzzlefry> jordan__zzz: xfce4
[15:00] <giru> ctjctj: thanks buddy
[15:00] <ctjctj> giru, I take it that you figured it out?
[15:07] <nuentoter> wondering if someone could help me, I have a windows client program running through wine, and it works perfectly if executed from the folder on the windows partition, but when a link is created and put on the desktop the link will successfully open the program but will not connect to the server
[15:07] <mrjester> New 16.4.1 install as a VMware Workstation 12 Pro guest.  Not getting larger resolution choices.  https://i.imgur.com/ZDs5N7a.png  Tried with open-vm-tools and vmware-tools.  I don't see any errors/warnings in x-0.log, lightdm.log, syslog, etc. How does X/lightdm determine the usable resolutions?
[15:10] <mrjester> Damn.. just noticed Xorg.0.log.  Seeing warnings about insufficient memory for mode.
[15:12] <fff> When I type MOUNT C C:\ it won't mount the drive
[15:14] <MonkeyDust> fff  linux does not work with C D E etc
[15:14] <Hydr0p0nX> it's mount not MOUNT , do you have a directory named C ? , and C:\ is a windows partition name, the linux equivalent will be dev/hd or /dev/sd followed by a letter and a number
[15:15] <_unreal_> fff, linux is case CASE sensitive
[15:16] <fff> so linux does not use letters for drives?
[15:16] <_unreal_> fff, c:\ is windows method of drive location
[15:16] <_unreal_> it uses the tree system
[15:16] <_unreal_> litterally like a tree
[15:16] <_unreal_> so / is root          then lets say /home/lenovo/Downloads
[15:17] <_unreal_> the /               is the base of the file system
[15:18] <_unreal_> if your going to mount a drive then you mount its device to a location "a folder"      / something/something/something   are all folders
[15:18] <_unreal_> fff, type "df -ah" with out the "" marks in a linux terminal
[15:19] <_unreal_> you are running linux right? ubuntu I'm asuming
[15:21] <_unreal_> fff, what are you trying to do?
[15:31] <p4i4sals_a4s> hello
[15:32] <p4i4sals_a4s> How can check what key i am pressing in x?
[15:34] <edgy> Hi, in 16.04 there seems to be two version of php modules, what's the difference between: http://pastebin.ca/3669422
[15:36] <stanton> I am running into issues with tvheadend and my TV tuner. Kaffiene detects the tuner just fine. tvheadend not so much lsdvb shows http://pastebin.com/B29ryFsp and lspci http://pastebin.com/mR03Nnfk and lsusb http://pastebin.com/XD7WUamp  my tv tuner card is a hauppauge wintv 1800 or 1850. wintv 78521 lp is all i can read on the physical card it self.
[15:36] <Wulf> edgy: php5 vs. php7
[15:36] <Wulf> p4i4sals_a4s: xev
[15:37] <edgy> Wulf: but both are v7
[15:37] <pkgo> is there a nice way to apt-get install chromedriver ?
[15:37] <pkgo> or do I have to install it manually?
[15:37] <Wulf> edgy: oh, right
[15:38] <Wulf> edgy: apt-cache show php-gd
[15:38] <Wulf> edgy: read it.
[15:38] <edgy> Wulf: already did that but couldn't understand the difference
[15:39] <MarkT-> I am trying to create a static .a library that I can link to when compiling an application on differnet linux distributions instead of needing a different library for each individual distro.
[15:39] <stanton> lspci -v shows, http://pastebin.com/cQYD1z7n which shows Hauppauge computer works Inc. CX23887/8 PCIe Broadcast Audio and Video Decoder with 3D Comb
[15:40] <p4i4sals_a4s> Wulf: thanks
[15:40] <MarkT-> Is there anything special I need to  be doing? Because right now when I build the library on one ubuntu system, and build my application and link to the static lib on a different ubuntu system, I get a 'malformed archive' at link time.   Building the library and linking to it on the same system has no issues.
[15:41] <MarkT-> once the application is linked, the binary works fine on any ubuntu system though...
[15:41] <MarkT-> I'm trying to figure out if I need to be doing something special when I am building the library though.
[15:44] <alnr> i'm trying to patch openssl on xenial for CVE-2016-2107 (http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2016/CVE-2016-2107.html) my system reports openssl 1.0.2g-1ubuntu4.1 as newest,  but the vulnerability remains. is there a later version available?
[15:44] <ducasse> MarkT-: you might have better luck with queries like that in ##linux
[15:45] <ctjctj> p4i4sals_a4s, have you tried xev?
[15:45]  * ctjctj is late to the game again...
[15:50] <ducasse> alnr: have you looked in xenial-proposed?
[15:51] <alnr> ducasse: no, i'm not familiar with that, checking
[15:53] <ducasse> alnr: no, i have proposed enabled, and i have 1.0.2g-1ubuntu4.1
[15:54] <alnr> oh, thanks for that. it seem odd to me that the canonical page purports that 2016-2107 is covered by 1.0.2g , but i ssllabs.com still sees the vulnerability on my server (even after reboot).
[15:55] <stevenh> Hi everyone. I have a problem with my Syntaptics touchpad which is most likely a bug in the Linux kernel. I like to open a bug report but I don't really know where to start
[15:55] <Kardi_> can anyone access libreoffice IRC? i get terminated and it says 6000 users, (using Firefox with Mibbit)
[15:55] <stevenh> Is there anybody here willing to help me
[15:56] <Kardi_> try turning it off and on again...
[15:56] <Guest38660> As a SysAdmin, do I need to know by heart e.g. the whole configuration for Postfix? https://www.linode.com/docs/email/postfix/email-with-postfix-dovecot-and-mysql
[15:56] <ctjctj> Guest38660, you don't need to know everything by heart but you need to know where to find it and how to read the documentation.
[15:57] <Guest38660> @ctjctj thank you :-)
[15:57] <ducasse> alnr: i don't know enough about it to tell you anything about that cve, maybe someone in #ubuntu-server does? i looked if the security team has a channel, but couldn't find one...
[15:58] <ducasse> stevenh: you can file bug with 'ubuntu-bug packagename'
[15:58] <ctjctj> Guest38660, In general system admin is knowing the general and know where to find the details.  Google foo is often as important as knowing the "correct" answer by heart.
[15:58] <jay_> Hi all I am problem install sotware on my, it says waiting to be installed forever, includin synaptic sofware manager refuses to install... just left mint where I had no issues, but deside to with ubuntu since mint is build of of ubuntu. any help availabe?
[15:59] <Guest38660> @ctjctj that is what I thought! :-)
[15:59] <alnr> ducasse: thanks, i'll try #ubuntu-server, didnt know about that
[16:00] <ducasse> Guest38660: you should have an understanding of how the email protocols work, though.
[16:00] <stevenh> Hi Ducasse, thanks. I'll try that.
[16:01] <jay_>  Hi all I am having problems install sotware on my pcc, it says waiting to be installed forever, includin synaptic sofware manager refuses to install... any help availabe?
[16:01] <Guest38660> @ducasse I know it :-) -- I just wanted to be sure as a "junior sysadmin"
[16:01] <ducasse> stevenh: you will need to create an account if you don't have one, and some times the bug reporter doesn't work properly if you aren't already logged in. just try again if that happens :)
[16:02] <stevenh> Fortunately I do have an account
[16:02] <ctjctj> Guest38660, one thing you should know "well" but not by heart is the spam protections available for postfix, what open relays are, and how to make sure you don't send spam.
[16:02] <stevenh> The thing is that I'm unsure about how to report it because I'm not sure if the synaptics driver is actually part of the kernel, or something I need to report somewhere else
[16:02] <ctjctj> Guest38660, look into mxtoolbox.com and verify that your machine is clean in most ways.
[16:03] <ducasse> Guest38660: nobody knows all the config directives by heart, you mainly need an understanding of which service does what so you can find what you need.
[16:03] <alnr> Guest38660: my exp. with postfix, is put up the stock server and then learn customizations needed one by one over time. my main.cf is actually less than a page
[16:04] <ducasse> stevenh: you can file it against xserver-xorg-input-synaptics, the devs will refile against the right package if necessary.
[16:04] <Guest38660> @ctjctj DKIM, DMARC, SPF, PTR, DANE, DNSSEC, SpamAssassin etc. up and running
[16:05] <jay_>  I am having problems install sotware on my pc, it says waiting to be installed forever any help availabe?
[16:05] <Guest38660> @alnr I know :-)
[16:05] <ctjctj> You are doing better than me.  But I was more suggesting that you check the RBL and *outbound* spamassassin
[16:07] <ducasse> jay_: ok, can you open a terminal? enter 'sudo apt-get install -f' and pastebin the output if there is any.
[16:07] <Archeus> best way to convert a movie from .mkv to .avi ?
[16:08] <ducasse> Archeus: handbrake, maybe?
[16:08] <Archeus> idk i am just asking for a fastest way
[16:08] <Archeus> im sor of newbie
[16:08] <Archeus> in ubuntu
[16:08] <Archeus> sort*
[16:09] <Guest38660> @ctjctj and Postscreen / "RBL"done" and *outbound* spamassassin" done via amavis
[16:09] <jay_> Unpacking kde-config-telepathy-accounts (4:15.12.3-0ubuntu1) ...
[16:09] <jay_> dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-config-telepathy-accounts_4%3a15.12.3-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb (--unpack):
[16:09] <jay_>  trying to overwrite '/usr/share/accounts/services/google-im.service', which is also in package account-plugin-google 0.12+16.04.20160126-0ubuntu1
[16:09] <jay_> Processing triggers for libc-bin (2.23-0ubuntu3) ...
[16:09] <jay_> Errors were encountered while processing:
[16:09] <jay_>  /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-config-telepathy-accounts_4%3a15.12.3-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb
[16:09] <kallo82> Hello i just want to know if AMD firepro drivers are not available on ubuntu 16.04
[16:09] <kallo82> still*
[16:09] <miles_> Do you guys think Ubuntu 10.4.4 on a 2002 Sony Vaio?
[16:09] <Archeus> is it fast ?
[16:09] <miles_> It can do Windows 7.
[16:10] <miles_> It originally had Windows XP.
[16:10] <ducasse> !paste | jay_
[16:10] <stevenh> Why such an old Ubuntu version miles?
[16:10] <miles_> I don't think it will run 16.04.
[16:10] <miles_> Plus.
[16:10] <ducasse> miles_: 10.04 is eol.
[16:10] <stevenh> How about 14.04
[16:11] <miles_> I'll take a look.
[16:11] <stevenh> But in any case, I would try a live USB drive (if it support booting from USB)
[16:11] <miles_> I have it on ubuntu 4.10 right now
[16:11] <stevenh> And you can then judge performance
[16:11] <stevenh> Wow
[16:11] <Guest38660> https://help.ubuntu.com/16.04/installation-guide/i386/ch03s04.html @miles_
[16:11] <jay_> ok sent
[16:12] <miles_> i think 10.4.4 is best
[16:12] <andai> hi! I've been having a weird issue where the system gets slower and slower until it freezes. It's too slow for me to check which process is doing this. So I end up hard rebooting the machine.    Is ridiculous resource usage logged somewhere, or can I log it?
[16:12] <miles_> Or maybe a little back.
[16:13] <Guest38660> You could at least try 14.04 @miles_
[16:14] <miles_> I am going to look at my hardware on the PC
[16:14] <kallo82> how can i install amd firepro driver on my ubuntu 16.04
[16:16] <andai> ok I found a script to log it, bye
[16:16] <jay_> anything?
[16:17] <ducasse> jay_: sent where? you need to post the url here.
[16:17] <jay_> http://paste.ubuntu.com
[16:18] <jay_> got a message i cant post it have to post it there
[16:18] <ducasse> jay_: the _full_ link, there should be a random string at the end.
[16:19] <miles_> In my / drive it says I have 15.4 of free space.
[16:19] <miles_> I will not be upgrading.
[16:20] <miles_> Just wiping my system and putting a new one on there.
[16:21] <jay_> sorry http://paste.ubuntu.com/21530619/
[16:21] <jay_> first time
[16:21] <TheReaperVirus> Does anyone know a bitmap font bigger then terminus?
[16:21] <Guest74946> hi
[16:23] <kallo82> Hello again , is there yet AMD support on Ubuntu 16.04 ? or i have to switch to an older version ?
[16:25] <\9> hm
[16:25] <fff> amd has very bad linux support
[16:25] <\9> ubuntu 16.04 installer appears to be stuck searching for file systems
[16:26] <ducasse> jay_: ok, you have a package conflict that you need to get cleared up to install other software. i _really_ need to go now, but someone should be able to help you if you just hang around and ask now and then.
[16:26] <jay_> ok someone anyone?
[16:27] <jay_> Help needed see http://paste.ubuntu.com/21530619/
[16:28] <miles_> What version of Ubuntu is closest to Windows 7?
[16:28] <Eliza777> KDE + Openbox. On Ctrl+Alt+F1 runned OpenBox and game. I canged to Ctrl+Alt+F7 to KDE and changed to Ctrl+Alt+F1 to OpenBox with the game. And I saw game crashed.
[16:28] <eN_Joy> i have been on 14.04, i am scared to run do-release-upgrade since i work remotely, should i?
[16:32] <skjones> eN_Joy, i tried 16.04.1 but it was pretty flaky for me - wireless had trouble - screen would flash occasionally - went back to 14.04
[16:33] <ducasse> jay_: if nobody can help you now, come back in half an hour or so, i should be back then :)
[16:33] <jay_> ok
[16:33] <Eliza777> KDE + Openbox. On Ctrl+Alt+F1 runned OpenBox and game. I canged to Ctrl+Alt+F7 to KDE and changed to Ctrl+Alt+F1 to OpenBox with the game. And I saw game crashed.
[16:34] <ctjctj> jay_, try sudo apt-get clean then sudo apt-get upgrade  See if that takes you further.
[16:34] <ctjctj> jay_, if that doesn't work your log says that there is a conflict that has to be resolved.
[16:36] <\9> looks like the filesystem mount i did earlier did not unmount properly
[16:36] <\9> so i just rebooted and tried again
[16:47] <yorwos> hi all, i found a file in my /home/user/ which is 8.3GB and its name is random characters ,like 3 lines long , what could this be?
[16:48] <EriC^^> yorwos: try "file /path/to/file"
[16:48] <sonu_nk> hi pavlushka how are you ?
[16:49] <christian_> is it really time to upgrade? Im using Xubuntu 14.04 and when I run software updater it notifies me that 16.04.1 is now available? did they fix the issues in thunar? missing mouse cursor when recovering from sleep?
[16:49] <pavlushka> I am fine, thanks sonu_nk !
[16:49] <pavlushka> sonu_nk: and what about you?
[16:49] <sonu_nk> i am facing some issue. my mouse in ubuntu is working perfect.. it is not selecting text accuratly and click is sometime rude and some time poor..
[16:50] <sonu_nk> pavlushka: i am good .. how all are in your family.
[16:50] <yorwos> it wont recognise the full name, i got 4 times nosuch file or directory from it eric
[16:50] <pavlushka> sonu_nk: They are ok. and how's your family?
[16:51] <sslove> eN_Joy, did u ask about upgrading 14.04?
[16:51] <sonu_nk> pavlushka: all are healthy and happy..
[16:51] <EriC^^> yorwos: try using file /path/to/file/first few letters<hit tab>
[16:51] <eN_Joy> sslove: no, i don't really need to;-)
[16:52] <sonu_nk> i am facing some issue. my mouse in ubuntu is not working perfect.. it is not selecting text accuratly and click is sometime rude and some time poor.. sorry my mouse setting is not default it is creating issue in select text..
[16:52] <sonu_nk> pavlushka: ^
[16:52] <sslove> ok, a user named enjoy
[16:52] <eN_Joy> i guess i'll stay..
[16:52] <sonu_nk> also issue in click
[16:53] <sslove> eN_Joy, oh i scrolled up, it was you
[16:53] <ctjctj> yorwos, it sounds like there are hidden characters in that file name.  file /path/to/file/ then attempt to tab complete the file name.
[16:53] <pavlushka> sonu_nk: since when?
[16:54] <sslove> eN_Joy, yea i was going to recommend u stay on 14.04, so many ppl here having graphics card/drivers issues, but if ur remote, i guess u don't need/use graphics
[16:54] <sonu_nk> pavlushka: from last 2 days it is not working as it should.. even mouse is new..
[16:54] <ctjctj> type the first character then press the tab key, then add another character and more tabs.  Finish with '*' this can be dangerous so don't do it when root.
[16:55] <pavlushka> sonu_nk: "lsb_release -rd" please
[16:55] <ctjctj> For example if you get a filename like "xyzzyxyzzyxyzzy\r;rm\ \-rf\ \ '
[16:55] <sonu_nk> pavlushka: Description:	Ubuntu 14.04.4 LTS Release:	14.04
[16:55] <yorwos> yes,it prints it its 3 lines long
[16:56] <ctjctj> yorwos, what did file say it was?
[16:56] <christian_> hello did they fix the bugs in xubuntu mentioned in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/FinalRelease/Xubuntu in 16.04.1?
[16:56] <yorwos> nothing....?
[16:56] <pavlushka> sonu_nk: did you tried to test the mouse into a different system?
[16:56] <yorwos> it just showed me its name
[16:57] <sonu_nk> pavlushka: yes
[16:57] <EriC^^> yorwos: can you pastebin the output?
[16:57] <ctjctj> yorwos, ok, I am worried about that file name. Please add the output of ls -lb /path/to/file_dir
[16:58] <pavlushka> sonu_nk: it functions correctly there?
[16:59] <sonu_nk> pavlushka: yes.. working perfect as it should
[16:59] <sonu_nk> pavlushka: is there any way to reset mouse setting and drivers?
[17:00] <sonu_nk> i also tried to do using system setting
[17:00] <pavlushka> sonu_nk: was that system a GNU/Linux?
[17:00] <TheGuest> hi al
[17:00] <sonu_nk> pavlushka: yes..
[17:01] <yorwos> ok,how do i get the link from pastebin?
[17:02] <yorwos> http://pastebin.com/raw/d15T34qu
[17:02] <pavlushka> sonu_nk: there should be a "mouse & Touchpad" settings, check there if everything is as it should be.
[17:03] <EriC^^> yorwos: try file /home/yorwos/tmpI<hittab> then enter
[17:05] <yorwos> http://pastebin.com/raw/FqLgxeiC
[17:06] <EriC^^> yorwos: try putting sudo before the command
[17:06] <AimlessRaven> is there any risk to lose data when i update my ubuntu 14.04 to 16
[17:06] <fer> not risk
[17:07] <AimlessRaven> fer:  thanks i go upgrade
[17:07] <AimlessRaven> ;)
[17:07] <yorwos> http://pastebin.com/raw/v0Z8GN84
[17:08] <miles_> going to install ubuntu 10.0.4.4 on my 2002 pc
[17:08] <miles_> wish me luck
[17:09] <sslove> miles_, why?
[17:09] <miles_> Why for what?
[17:09] <Bashing-om> !10.04 | miles_ Not recommended !
[17:09] <sslove> it's no longer supported. u can try ubuntu MATE 16.04, it's like where 10.04 left off
[17:09] <TheGuest> whether here there are still using the old version ubuntu?
[17:10] <sslove> miles_,  it's no longer supported. u can try ubuntu MATE 16.04, it's like where 10.04 left off
[17:10] <miles_> On my 2002 PC I don't think it can run 16.04
[17:10] <miles_> Plus, my CD can only hold up 700mb
[17:10] <EriC^^> miles_: how much ram?
[17:11] <stanton> sslove: yeah depending on the system he may not be able to use latest ubuntu mate. i have tried it as well on a laptop from 2002 era and anything above 14.04 won't work on it.
[17:11] <Bashing-om> miles_: Lubuntu is a faster, more lightweight and energy saving variant of Ubuntu using LXDE, the Lightweight X11 Desktop Environment. It is targeted at "normal" PC and laptop users running on low-spec hardware.
[17:11] <miles_> 256 mb of ram
[17:11] <ducasse> miles_: then try 14.04 at least. anyway, you can use the server installer and install desktop etc over the network.
[17:11] <sslove> miles_, uuuh, i am currently typing this on a REALLY weak old computer running ubuntu mate, only 1gb ram and it runs Ubuntu MATE wonderfully
[17:11] <EriC^^> miles_: what Bashing-om said
[17:11] <yorwos> this is really weird im thinking to just delete it :/
[17:12] <miles_> I looked at it. The i386 download file for 14.10 (what I could find) is 1.1gb.
[17:12] <fer> try mint version
[17:12] <sslove> miles_, trust  me, IF u can install 10.04, u can install Ubuntu MATE 16.04, anyone on this channel will back that up
[17:12] <miles_> I'll see.
[17:12] <EriC^^> sslove: with 256mb it's pretty difficult
[17:12] <EriC^^> *256mb ram
[17:13] <EriC^^> are you sure it's 256mb ram?
[17:13] <miles_> Also, my graphics may not be doing so well with 16.04
[17:13] <miles_> card*
[17:13] <Bashing-om> miles_: Think (?) the lower limit for ram is 512 ?? .. see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements/ .
[17:13] <EriC^^> 2002 laptop's had more i think
[17:13] <miles_> I am sure it is 256
[17:13] <miles_> I looked in the BIOS
[17:13] <TheGuest> huffttt ubuntu 16.04 is lag, and high ram usage on my laptop :( why, (Intel core 2 duo t7300 2.0 GHZ, 2 Gb ram, Intel g965 graphics, ubuntu 16.04 64 bit
[17:14] <miles_> My processor doesn't have SSE2 support.
[17:14] <miles_> So it is old...
[17:15] <miles_> The 2002 originally had Windows XP, so I changed to Ubuntu 4.10, and now 10.04.4.
[17:15] <Bashing-om> miles_: Honestly, I have had good results with the DSL distrubotion on such low spec hardware .
[17:16] <miles_> It still uses floppy drives.
[17:16] <yorwos> ctj,eric, any ideas what 2do with that file?
[17:16] <miles_> And it needs PCi Network adapter for WiFi.
[17:16] <gbaker> So why is there is there a huge difference between cached reads and buffered disk reads? I know it's kind of a stupid question...
[17:17] <pavlushka> miles, why dont you give us a "free" result paste?
[17:17] <ducasse> yorwos: impossible to say, it looks like just a temp file of some sort that hasn't been cleaned up. i would just delete it.
[17:19] <yorwos> should i try to man that?
[17:19] <jay_> any support staff yet?
[17:19] <stanton> sslove: 16.04 works fine with 1gb for you?
[17:19] <EriC^^> yorwos: man what?
[17:19] <ducasse> yorwos: man what?
[17:19] <pavlushka> !help | jay_
[17:20] <yorwos> man the file ?
[17:20] <yorwos> type
[17:20] <ducasse> jay_: ok, a second and i'll help you :)
[17:20] <sslove> stanton, omg yes
[17:20] <stanton> sslove: if so what did you do to get it running smoothly? i've got a laptop used to have xp on it. someone gave it to me to install a linux distro i tried ubuntu mate when it was 15.04 and again with 16.04 it has 512 or 1gb of ram. but the machine ran so slowly that i couldn't even bring up an irc client.
[17:21] <sslove> i'm blown away with the performance of this U MATE on this original netbook 32bit 1.6 atom with 1gb ram
[17:21] <sslove> stanton,  i'm blown away with the performance of this U MATE on this original netbook 32bit 1.6 atom with 1gb ram
[17:21] <ducasse> jay_: type 'sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-config-telepathy-accounts' in a terminal
[17:21] <pavlushka> sslove: i am blown away by that fact :)
[17:22] <stanton> sslove: it worked fine if i ran cli solutions.  i'm trying to figure out where i might be lacking for this machine of theirs. it's super old intel 1.2ghz at most. single core. 80gb hdd intergrated old intel graphics. from 2000.
[17:22] <ctjctj> yorwos, you might be able to remove it.  But it is a root file and you are having troubles getting to it by name.
[17:22] <sslove> miles_, if using an ubuntu bas is important to you, try bodhi  linux, enlightenment desktop is the lightest and best out there. if u want an official flavor, try lubuntu. boot off a usb to see if graphics are an issue
[17:22] <yorwos> ill reboot and brb
[17:23] <jay_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/21537766/
[17:24] <jay_> @ducasse log found here http://paste.ubuntu.com/21537766/
[17:25] <sslove> stanton, wow i am VERY surprised to hear that, actually i have never seen better performance out of this netbook as it is performing now under UMATE 16.04. i am able to run the newest opera browser with about 3 or 4 other apps open and in use at the same time
[17:25] <stanton> sslove: and it's kicking with either 512 or 1gb. i even tried linux mint mate.  the machine is a dell latitude d531 originally had xp pro
[17:26] <ducasse> jay_: sorry, i pasted wrong; 'sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-config-telepathy-accounts_4%3a15.12.3-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb' - then try 'sudo apt-get install -f'
[17:26] <sslove> stanton, i run hexchat opera with about 10 tabs, telegram and terminal and no problems at all, not even the slightest bit of lag
[17:26] <stanton> according to the internet it's supposed to have 2gb but one of the slots is missing a stick of ram. so probably been modified. also internet states it's an intergrated ati x1270.
[17:26] <stanton> maybe 16.04.1 had some performance fixes over 16.04
[17:27] <sslove> stanton, the most impressive thing of all, the resume from sleep is instant. i mean less than 1/10th of a second
[17:27] <sslove> i open the lid and immediately it's on
[17:27] <sslove> stanton,  i open the lid and immediately it's on
[17:27] <stanton> sadly the evil laptop doesn't have usb booting. so i gotta use a trick to force usb to work. but anyways i'll make a bootable disk/usb stick. see if she'll run better this time around.
[17:28] <jay_> @ducasse http://paste.ubuntu.com/21538176/
[17:28] <stanton> sslove: sounds like my pilot chromebook when i had ubuntu on it.
[17:28] <sslove> stanton, i wondered if it was just on and not suspended, but the lights are showing it is in suspend mode, slowly fading in and out
[17:29] <stanton> sslove: and you're positive it's ubuntu mate edition? 'cause if i get this machine working again i'm getting paid
[17:29] <sslove> stanton, i can show u a video, it is ridiculous. i'm totally blown away, lol. wifi takes about 3-5 secs to connect upon resume from suspend
[17:29] <ducasse> jay_: only paste what is inside ' ' - they are two separate commands, so press enter after each.
[17:29] <sslove> stanton, yup, i'll show u
[17:30] <stanton> sslove: almost sounds like you're getting close to the speeds my gaming rig can get with it's 8gb ram and quad 3.2ghz i'm actually fairly impressed and really am wanting to try it now.
[17:31] <sslove> stanton, only a video can show u how stupid fast this OLD netbook is with this UMATE
[17:31] <gbaker> Is it SSD's that cause the difference in hdparm speeds having such a gap in buffered and cached reads?
[17:31] <sslove> stanton, hold on, will record it now
[17:31] <sslove> gbaker, if ur asking me, no, it's not ssd
[17:32] <stanton> sslove: thanks be sure to show the specs the task manager would suffice for me.
[17:32] <gbaker> Hmm I just never remember a 4x difference. :)
[17:33] <gbaker> Oh I feel stupid, its not 4x... just bad at math today.
[17:33] <sslove> stanton, ok, will do right now
[17:34] <stanton> hey what was the name of the channel for off-topic but it was still a ubuntu channel?
[17:34] <DJones> !ot | stanton
[17:34] <ducasse> gbaker: for cached reads; "This measurement  is essentially an indication of the throughput of the processor, cache, and memory of the system under test.'
[17:35] <stanton> thanks DJones
[17:35] <jay_> @ducase I think it worked was just about to format. you save me a lot of work thanks so much
[17:36] <ducasse> jay_: good, i hope everything is ok now :) if you run into other problems, just come back here and someone is happy to help :)
[17:36] <jay_> ok thanks
[17:36] <ducasse> jay_: no problem.
[17:36] <neldogz> anyone experiencing trouble setting the grub timeout? I set mine to 4 seconds, ran sudo update-grub and rebooted... somehow its defaulted back to 10 seconds each time
[17:36] <gbaker> ducasse: That makes sense. Just was finally able to get linux back up on my new laptop so it's been a while. And thid beast had quite a few issues getting it installed :)
[17:37] <gbaker> *this
[17:37] <ducasse> gbaker: it happens sometimes if you buy really new hardware, drivers and fixes may not have made it into the distro yet.
[17:38] <sslove> stanton, here u go http://imgur.com/a/94dZh
[17:39] <ducasse> gbaker: if you read the hdparm man page you can see the explanation of both benchmarks, and how they should be used.
[17:39] <gbaker> I noticed that...I still have one issue that I doubt will be fixed for a while, the touchpad is also the num pad but I never really use num pad so doesn't bug me much
[17:39] <hpardis> Hi everyone.
[17:40] <hpardis> Are there any shell extensions for unity? I'm more of a gnome user and there are some stuff that are nice like caffienater
[17:40] <ducasse> gbaker: no idea about that, sorry - that is something i've never come across.
[17:40] <MonkeyDust> hpardis  do you mean themes?
[17:41] <xangua> hpardis: is that like caffeine? Unity has"indicators"
[17:41] <gbaker> ducasse: I never really use num pad anyways so no biggie. Oh and I recalculated and there is a 15x difference.
[17:42] <gbaker> That does seem like a huge gap.
[17:42] <hpardis> caffeine, that's the name I was looking for lol
[17:42] <hpardis> Yeah, just like that, but for unity
[17:42] <ducasse> gbaker: that sounds more likely, yes. ram is a hell of a lot faster than disk.
[17:43] <gbaker> ducasse: yeah and I have it set up in a raid so I expected a speed difference.
[17:45] <xangua> hpardis: says here that caffeine 2.8 and up should support Ubuntu indicators www.webupd8.org/2015/01/caffeine-app-gets-its-indicator-back.html?m=1
[17:45] <ducasse> gbaker: what kind of disks?
[17:45] <gbaker> I set up the 4 main m.2 ssd drives in a raid 0
[17:45] <gbaker> I use the 5th drive as a backup drive.
[17:46] <hpardis> I just search for the unity indicators and found what I was looking for. Thanks everyone.
[17:46] <ducasse> gbaker: and what are you getting on buffered reads?
[17:46] <gbaker> Timing buffered disk reads: 2516 MB in  3.00 seconds = 838.09 MB/sec
[17:47] <ducasse> gbaker: i'd expect more than that from decent drives that are configured correctly.
[17:47] <gbaker> ducasse: That's what I thought
[17:47] <gbaker> Cached is way higher
[17:48] <gbaker> Timing cached reads:   24276 MB in  2.00 seconds = 12149.30 MB/sec
[17:48] <sslove> stanton, u see?
[17:49] <ducasse> gbaker: i think you should take this to #ubuntu-server, they can tell you what you should be seeing and how to get the best performance.
[17:49] <stanton> sslove: do i see what?
[17:49] <stanton> sslove: nvm i just noticed the link
[17:49] <ducasse> gbaker: are those nvme drives or sata drives on m.2?
[17:49] <gbaker> ducasse: I said it was a beast of a laptop...
[17:49] <sslove> stanton, i recorded a short video of how fast the netbook resumes from suspend too, if u wanna see. no computer i have ever owned has resumed from a suspend/sleep state so bloody fast
[17:50] <stanton> sslove: ah i see the biggest difference your processor is dual core.
[17:50] <gbaker> ducasse: Micron_M600_MTFD x4
[17:50] <sslove> stanton, and this is my oldest weakest computer
[17:50] <stanton> sslove: so you have two 1.6ghz cores vs my single core 1.2ghz.
[17:51] <ducasse> gbaker: those are essentialy sata drives, it looks like. not nvme.
[17:51] <sslove> stanton, oh well, it's worth a try anyway
[17:53] <ducasse> gbaker: they are slower than samsung 850 pros. from software raid you might not get more...
[17:53] <sslove> stanton, i can't believe it would really make that much of a difference. anyway, try to boot off of a usb and see. u said u tried ubuntu mate 16.04 already and it was slow as shit? if so, try bodhi linux, nothing beats enlightenment. i am 100% that machine will work pretty well with bodhi linux
[17:54] <gbaker> ducasse: Its running off of the raid controller, I tried it with turning off the controller and using mdadm but it kept having issues.
[17:54] <sslove> stanton, or if u wanna stick with official ubuntu, try the mini iso and install e17, e17 will run with as little as 16mb i believe
[17:55] <stanton> sslove: man my absolute oldest machine would be lucky to run what rasberry pi runs. old old desktop originally had windows 95. still works though. but yeah i'm going to go ahead and try umate on two of my laptops. one of em has dual cores and little more ram than your machine so i should be able to run it fine without issues. and yeah i tried 15.04 and 16.04 on the machine in question. the type of processor can make a huge difference.
[17:56] <stanton> sslove: i've never heard of a ubuntu mini. this has me highly interested now.
[17:56] <ducasse> gbaker: ok. i'm getting a little over 500mb/s from an 850 evo here - a single drive. 838mb/s looks low for four drives in raid0 to me, but i'm not an ssd expert.
[17:56] <ducasse> gbaker: but you won't be getting close to memory speeds from that setup either way.
[17:56] <sslove> stanton, yes someone here can probably give u more info, but i believe it is called ubuntu mini.iso
[17:57] <gbaker> ducasse: Ill ask in server chan. It seems slow to me but it's also a laptop so it's kinda hard to predict what I should get.
[17:57] <ctjctj> stanton, you can also look at lubuntu which is a "light" desktop.  I run it on an older laptop that I use for driving a 3D printer.
[17:58] <stanton> sslove: ah i got google. already found information on the mini. also going to check out this bodhi.  i love playing with computers seeing how far i can push em and how long i can keep em alive. i still have a 1980's dos machine in storage. last time i used it, it worked but i hate it so i don't consider it mine until someone wants to buy it for over 50 bucks.
[17:58] <ducasse> gbaker: i really don't know. you could also try ##linux, that is far more active than -server and probably a more 'correct' place being that this is a laptop.
[17:58] <sslove> it's really small and u install what u want, it is just the core. and of course now there is snappy ubuntu too, u could install that as the base, and start with e17, nothing is lighter and faster and more insanely customizable, it's a tweakers dream DE, u can make it look like anything, and so much cool included widgets and docks and launcher/menu called 'run everything' very very wickedly fast and beautiful that enlightenment, it is
[17:58] <sslove> too often overlooked
[17:59] <stanton> ctjctj: yes yes i have tried the lubuntu on my oldest laptop it mildly works. cpu usage was at 50% idling.
[17:59] <goddard> what is the best DE for scaling?
[17:59] <goddard> unity can scale but all the apps look horrible
[18:00] <xangua> KDE maybe?
[18:00] <gbaker> ducasse: Thanks for the help, Ill ask in server for now, I asked in ##linux but nobody could answer that was on. I'll try later in there if I can't figure out why it seems slow.
[18:00] <ctjctj> stanton, I'm surprised at the load.
[18:00] <sslove> stanton, well, the lightest current modern os with new software that u can install on OLD OLD computers will be puppy linux with icewm or JWM which needs only 3mb of ram!! hahaha
[18:00] <sslove> stanton, that is for the window manager
[18:01] <ctjctj> gbaker, I didn't see your original issue, can you state it in brief?  It sounded like a disk speed issue with raid0/1?
[18:01] <stanton> ctjctj: it is an early 1999 to 2000 laptop. so i didn't really expect much from it.
[18:01] <gbaker> It seems a little slow on what I expected from buffered disk reads
[18:01] <sslove> stanton, between lubuntu and bodhi, no comparison, bodhi will for sure blow the lubuntu out of the water
[18:01] <stanton> sslove: i used to use puppylinux on my 1995 machine. couldn't get internet to work but hey haven't tried on a newer machine than 1995
[18:02] <ctjctj> stanton, I've got a Pentium 100 around here that still runs with raid5 on 5in hard drives running FreeBSD something.  I don't want to discard it as my (dead) friends website still lives on it.
[18:02] <ducasse> gbaker: my machine is also doing 16670.95 MB/sec in cached reads, so my bus throughput is probably better. they can't be directly translated, is what i'm saying :)
[18:02] <sslove> stanton, bodhi will run well on computers so old they cannot even boot lubuntu, i know this from experience, yes from old desktops running win95
[18:02] <ctjctj> sslove, is bodhi based on debian?
[18:02] <gbaker> Yeah
[18:03] <stanton> sslove: i love the system requirments to bodhi. 500mhz processor and 128mb ram. that'll run on most computers in my house.
[18:03] <gbaker> I figured being a laptop there would be some differences.
[18:03] <stanton> ctjctj: according to their site it's ubuntu based
[18:03] <gbaker> most people with this setup are using a desktop
[18:03] <stanton> ctjctj: so yeah it's debian based. technically heh
[18:03] <ctjctj> stanton, I'll have to give it a try next time I need a small tight unix.
[18:03] <sslove> ctjctj, well, sorta, it is based on ubuntu LTS
[18:04] <ducasse> gbaker: hdparm isn't the ideal tool for benchmarks, you could try something like bonnie++ - read the docs first, though.
[18:04] <sslove> ctjctj, the 3rd release of bodhi is expected to be out this week, based on 16.04
[18:04] <gbaker> Only other (minor) issue is when Nvidia will ever support SLI for mobile processors. Ill look into that.
[18:04] <stanton> sslove: ctjctj: i know i'm downloading this bodhi  it's small enough to fit onto a 700mb cd.
[18:05] <gbaker> ducasse: Ill look into bonnie++ thanks
[18:05] <ctjctj> stanton, I feel a VM coming on...
[18:05] <sslove> stanton, yea i like their older one with the default easy on the eyes e17 theme, the newer bodhis use their own custom pukey theme which is a remix of radiance and puke green
[18:05] <stanton> ctjctj: heck yeah i always test new distro's on a vm first. try to match hardware specs as closely as possible to my physical machines to get an idea of how each distro will work.
[18:05] <ducasse> gbaker: there are excellent guides on it online, do some googling. it can give you very good benchmarks on various workloads.
[18:06] <stanton> sslove: i'm gonna be modifying the theme. no way i could handle puke green
[18:06] <ctjctj> stanton, I'm not going to give a VM that much disk and memory.  *GRIN*
[18:06] <sslove> stanton, ctjctj but bodhi does keep their software up to do date and they have made a cool 'app center' web based with 1 click install and 1 click install bundles
[18:07] <ctjctj> gbaker, for disk stuff I always point to btrfs for raid0/1 and resiliency.
[18:07] <sslove> stanton, personally, the default enlightenment grey theme is one of the nicest out there anywhere, all text is clear and very easy on the eyes, it's a nice, 'light' dark theme, if that makes any sense
[18:08] <mcphail> Can you move the bodhi discussion away from the #ubuntu support channel please.
[18:08] <sslove> ctjctj, 'i feel a vm coming on' LOL
[18:09] <stanton> ctjctj: haha well i have a machine that's powerful enough machine to match my physical machines such as my old laptops in a VM. now hdd wise i don't give em that much most VM's if it's going to be running a gnu-linux distro will have 20gb
[18:09] <sslove> mcphail, sure sure, i'll stop. just came up out of a tangent
[18:09] <ctjctj> bodhi booting now...
[18:09] <mcphail> sslove: no worries
[18:09] <gbaker> I'm using btrfs. I really want to call it butterface
[18:09] <eff_netflix> hi hi! I'd appreciate some assistance selectively bypassing VPN on ubuntu. Just for netflix
[18:09] <ctjctj> mcphail, rodger.
[18:09] <ffwacom> apt-get install uwsgi
[18:10] <ffwacom> doesn't start on boot
[18:10] <stanton> thank you sslove for informing me about this interesting os based on ubuntu.
[18:10] <ffwacom> anyone familiar with the package that could lend a hand?
[18:10] <stanton> ctjctj: holy cow. you're already done? i have 5 more minutes before mine is done.
[18:10] <sslove> eff_netflix, try the developer versions of opera with great built in free vpn
[18:10] <ctjctj> stanton, *nods*
[18:10] <sslove> stanton, yea i am always surprised how few ppl know about it
[18:11] <eff_netflix> sslove -> I want the opposite. I want any connections -> netflix NOT to go through VPN.
[18:11] <cncr04s> you could route the netflix ip spaces to use your main adapter instead of the vpn
[18:11] <stanton> sslove: i believe i heard of it once before. like a year or two. but i've been a long fan-boy of ubuntu.
[18:11] <tgm4883> we still trust opera's VPN?
[18:11] <xangua> Isn't opera Chinese owned now?
[18:11] <bekks> tgm4883: I never did. :)
[18:11] <tgm4883> xangua: yea
[18:12] <sslove> ctjctj, hey let me know how it goes, and what version u r using
[18:12] <xangua> :-(
[18:12] <sslove> xangua, can't talk about opera here, sorry
[18:12] <eff_netflix> I think the term I'm looking for is selective routing?
[18:12] <sslove> xangua, mcphail ^_^
[18:12] <ctjctj> sslove, 64bit Standard Release 3.2.1
[18:13] <stanton> i stopped using opera after nintendo had it on the DSi.... i just stick with chrome + ubuntu + any ubuntu based system. unless the machine is to old to handle chrome.
[18:13] <stanton> sslove: ctjctj want to join me in #ubuntu-offtopic?
[18:13] <Tazer> chromium > chrome
[18:14] <stanton> Tazer: i find chrome (the one from google's download page) works better with netflix.
[18:14] <xangua> Tazer: chromium doesn't support DRM, that's the issue here
[18:14] <FlipBill> eff_netflix, the term is Policy Routing
[18:15] <sslove> stanton, i can't get the functionality and ease of navigation out of any other browser like i can with opera. in fact, i can't even get the functionality of opera even with opera now, as it is chromium based now, but it is slowly catching up with the old opera 10.10, like ubuntu 10.10, it was the best opera ever
[18:15] <eff_netflix> Flipbill! You know how to get it done? :P
[18:15] <stanton> sslove: well from what i understand newer opera is based on chromium. not sure.
[18:16] <sslove> stanton, ctjctj i am there now
[18:16] <stanton> sslove: also you might like Vivaldi, it's made to be highly customizable. and is made by the original opera makers.
[18:16] <FlipBill> I've done it.  You need to use ip rule command to direct certain packets to an alternate routing table.
[18:17] <imkillingmyselfh> Where can I go to get help about the AMD open source drivers?
[18:17] <FlipBill> It would be tedious to walk you through it, but it if you start with Google and get oriented, I will help you with guidance.
[18:17] <eff_netflix> Got a link maybe?
[18:17] <ducasse> imkillingmyselfh: on ubuntu?
[18:17] <Tazerbot> google.ca ;)
[18:17] <FlipBill> eff_netflix, More interesting, you watch Netflix on Ubuntu?
[18:18] <FlipBill> http://blog.scottlowe.org/2013/05/29/a-quick-introduction-to-linux-policy-routing/
[18:19] <FlipBill> eff_netflix, this is the definitive doc: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Adv-Routing-HOWTO/index.html
[18:19] <Jonii> hello
[18:19] <ducasse> imkillingmyselfh: if you have a problem with the amd drivers on ubuntu, just ask here.
[18:19] <sslove> stanton, i cannot join #ubuntu-offtopic for some reason, but i was on #ubuntu-offtopic? lol
[18:19] <Jonii> I'm having trouble with my screen. I can't seem to make Ubuntu 16.04 desktop operate at 144hz
[18:19] <Jonii> It's locked to 60fps afaik
[18:19] <FlipBill> eff_netflix, Give me a few minutes to look at some of my configs where I do some thing related.
[18:19] <sslove> stanton, yea i use vivaldi as well as 4 versions of opera
[18:19] <eff_netflix> Oh boy! FlipBill ... any chance we can chat somehwer less crowded ?
[18:20] <FlipBill> I suppose, but why not share the wealth?
[18:20] <stanton> sslove: you have to register your name with nickserv to join offtopic.
[18:20] <Jonii> I've managed to make games work at 144fps but it's rather annoying when desktop has such awful framerate
[18:21] <Jonii> This worked fine on 14.04, so I guess 16.04 has some hidden "force desktop to use 60fps" setting somewhere
[18:21] <bekks> Jonii: there is no such secret setting.
[18:21] <eff_netflix> It's really hard to follow :/
[18:21] <eff_netflix> but let's do this
[18:22] <sslove> stanton, what is the code to register with nickserv
[18:22] <bekks> !register | sslove
[18:22] <Jonii> Is it even possible for 16.04 ubuntu to have 61+ fps desktop?
[18:22] <sslove> !register | sslove
[18:23] <FlipBill> eff_netflix, OK, to start, a summary:
[18:24] <FlipBill> eff_netflix, 1) designate a new routing table with a number by adding it to /etc/iproute2/rt_tables
[18:25] <imkillingmyselfh> Should I put my problem in an ubuntu paste and post it here?
[18:25] <FlipBill> eff_netflix, This is going to contain a default route different from your VPN.  The default route in this table likely point directly at your ISP router.
[18:25] <ducasse> imkillingmyselfh: no, just describe your problem.
[18:26] <FlipBill> eff_netflix, Then use ip rule command to tell Linux to use this table for packets destined to the Netflix IP
[18:26] <FlipBill> eff_netflix, (that's step 2)
[18:26] <frenda> Is there any way to show this kind of captions http://paste.ubuntu.com/21543756/ on a video?
[18:26] <Ben64> imkillingmyselfh: yep
[18:26] <eff_netflix> step 1: echo 200 netflix >> /etc/iproute2/rt_tables
[18:26] <FlipBill> eff_netflix, not sure of syntax for #2, I'm doing it based on source IP address, but I'm sure it can be done.
[18:27] <FlipBill> eff_netflix, yeah something like that.
[18:27] <eff_netflix> why source?
[18:27] <Ben64> frenda: uh... use subtitles
[18:27] <eff_netflix> what's your rule like?
[18:27] <FlipBill> eff_netflix, now you do something like: ip rule add to NETFLIX IP table netflix
[18:28] <frenda> Ben64, huh? there's not any subtitle: https://mva.microsoft.com/en-US/training-courses/introduction-to-programming-with-python-8360 --> 4th tab (the hamburger icon)
[18:29] <FlipBill> My rule is for routing between service KVM and virtual router KVM when the machines have multiple IP addresses on the internal LAN.  It's a little twisted...rious services
[18:29] <FlipBill> It looks like this: ip rule add from 192.168.10.131 table http1
[18:29] <FlipBill> So, I'm choosing the table based on source IP (from)
[18:29] <eff_netflix>  ip rule add to 23.21.97.34 table netflix
[18:29] <FlipBill> It's followed by:
[18:29] <FlipBill> ip route add default via 192.168.10.171 table http1
[18:30] <FlipBill> ip route flush cache
[18:30] <FlipBill> ip addr add 192.168.10.131 dev eth2
[18:30] <Ben64> frenda: you asked how to show captions on a video, it's called using subtitles
[18:30] <FlipBill> Not quite the same thing you are doing, but you see where this is going?
[18:30] <eff_netflix> where did http1 come from?
[18:30] <eff_netflix> not quite
[18:31] <FlipBill> eff_netflix, http1 is the name I chose for my alternate routing table for HTTP service routing.  For you, it's netflix
[18:31] <FlipBill> Also, have to check that a "to option is what you wat for the rule.
[18:31] <FlipBill> Too busy typing to look it up.
[18:32] <HalfOfAKebab> hey all
[18:32] <FlipBill> There are many ways that you can select a packet for rule application.
[18:32] <HalfOfAKebab> decided to try out ubuntu with a dual boot of it and windows 10
[18:32] <HalfOfAKebab> anddddd i failed
[18:32] <HalfOfAKebab> miserably
[18:32] <HalfOfAKebab> i installed it, all was well until i installed rx 480 gpu drivers
[18:32] <FlipBill> If there is no simple way, you can use iptables to identify the packets and then mark them.  ip rule can see the marks.
[18:33] <HalfOfAKebab> and now i don't have any gui after logging in
[18:33] <HalfOfAKebab> there's no "taskbar" or whatever ubuntu calls it
[18:33] <FlipBill> Sorry I can't give you the precise commands, I have to look this stuff up whenrever I futz with it.
[18:33] <HalfOfAKebab> right-click does nothing
[18:33] <HalfOfAKebab> i don't have a clue what to do because this is the first time i've ever used it
[18:33] <Ben64> HalfOfAKebab: what version of ubuntu, and how did you install the drivers
[18:34] <sslove> stanton, ctjctj still cannot join that channel
[18:34] <HalfOfAKebab> Ben64 16.04.1, and i installed the ones from amd's site using the guide they gave
[18:34] <_unreal_> is it me or is there something worng with this ? i cant get into ubuntu-ports http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/ubuntu-ports/ubuntu-ports/ubuntu-ports/ubuntu-ports/ubuntu-ports/ubuntu-ports/
[18:34] <sslove> stanton, ctjctj still cannot register nick ** shrug**
[18:34] <ducasse> HalfOfAKebab: fglrx doesn't work on 16.04.
[18:34] <bekks> sslove: so ask in #freenode
[18:34] <HalfOfAKebab> idk what that means ducasse :P
[18:34] <eff_netflix> routing :( i hate it. dont understand it never have never will :(
[18:34] <stanton> sslove: that's unusual.
[18:35] <FlipBill> eff_netflix, "ip rule add to"looks legit, according to the ref: http://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man8/ip-rule.8.html
[18:35] <FlipBill> eff_netflix, did you try the command?
[18:35] <pa> so i have this pc where 12.04 was booting fine. i now tried to put on the disk a 14.04 and 16.04 (via another pc, because this one wouldn't boot with 14.04 usb or 16.04 usb), and it doesn't boot anymore. grub let me choose the option
[18:35] <ducasse> HalfOfAKebab: those amd drivers don't work on 16.04, they are no longer being developed.
[18:35] <eff_netflix> yes it's in there
[18:35] <pa> when i go recovery it stalls where it says "DMAR-IR: IOAPIC id 8 under DRHD base"
[18:35] <HalfOfAKebab> ducasse what are no longer being developed? the drivers?
[18:35] <stanton> sslove: did you try /msg nickserv register password email-address and checked your email and verified it?
[18:35] <ioria> HalfOfAKebab, used this  http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMD-Radeon-GPU-PRO-Linux-Beta-Driver%E2%80%93Release-Notes.aspx ?
[18:35] <FlipBill> eff_netflix, so check it all out,-- cat /etc/iproute2/rt_tables
[18:35] <sslove> bekks, thanks for ur help, it is frustrating, i have joined freenode, but i "cannot send to channel" and the operator doesn't reply to pm **shrug**
[18:36] <FlipBill> Do you see the table ref you add?
[18:36] <HalfOfAKebab> ioria yup, that exact page is the one i followed
[18:36] <sslove> stanton, do i do that right in this channel? or where?
[18:36] <eff_netflix> netflix is in there
[18:36] <FlipBill> eff_netflix, let me fish around my KVM to get oriented.
[18:37] <eff_netflix> from all to 23.21.97.34 lookup netflix
[18:37] <stanton> sslove: i like to do it in the window that irc freenode is in. just incase i forget the /
[18:37] <eff_netflix> that's cool
[18:37] <HalfOfAKebab> ducasse the drivers i downloaded are for version 16.04
[18:38] <HalfOfAKebab> how would i go about uninstalling the drivers?
[18:38] <ducasse> HalfOfAKebab: i thought you were talking about the old drivers, sorry :)
[18:38] <FlipBill> eff_netflix, you have to do a "ip route flush cache" to make it happen
[18:38] <HalfOfAKebab> ducasse ah alright np
[18:38] <eff_netflix> hold up
[18:38] <eff_netflix> i dont think i have anything that tells how to route traffic towards netflix besides the 200 netflix in that file
[18:38] <ioria> HalfOfAKebab, amdgpu-pro-uninstall  ... have you read the guide ?
[18:39] <FlipBill> eff_netflix, also do a "ip ro sh tab netflix" to view the alternate routing table.
[18:39] <ioria> HalfOfAKebab, http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMDGPU-PRO-Install.aspx
[18:39] <FlipBill> That's all you need.  Now all packets not mathcing the rule use the regular routing table.
[18:39] <HalfOfAKebab> alright, i'm gonna try that
[18:40] <HalfOfAKebab> how do i open firefox from the terminal?
[18:40] <ioria> HalfOfAKebab,  firefox &
[18:40] <FlipBill> Netflix packets use the alternate table.  And there is only wone route - the default to your upstream ISP (I suppose)
[18:40] <HalfOfAKebab> alright brb ty
[18:40] <eff_netflix> ip route flush cache; followed by ip ro sh tab netflix is empty
[18:40] <FlipBill> s/wone/one/
[18:41] <eff_netflix> no no... i am on a VPN right now
[18:41] <FlipBill> OK - do "ip route add default vie x.y.z.a table netflix
[18:41] <FlipBill> via
[18:41] <eff_netflix> wouldn't that route all the default traffic through that netflix table?
[18:41] <FlipBill> where you substitute your non-VPN default route
[18:41] <FlipBill> No, only the traffic that matches th rule
[18:42] <FlipBill> That adds the rule to the netflix table
[18:42] <FlipBill> eff_netflix, do ip ru sh
[18:43] <eff_netflix> default via 192.168.2.1 dev enp2s0
[18:43] <FlipBill> That will show the lookup rules (which routing table to use for which case)
[18:43] <FlipBill> eff_netflix, looks reasonable, yes, enps0 looks like a HW NIC
[18:43] <FlipBill> enp2s0
[18:44] <FlipBill> ip ro sh
[18:44] <eff_netflix> nope :(
[18:44] <FlipBill> OK, maybe you were right, should have done this OOB
[18:44] <FlipBill> Anyway, let's recap...
[18:45] <FlipBill> You should have two routing tables...
[18:45] <eff_netflix> ?
[18:45] <eff_netflix> i have netflix one
[18:45] <eff_netflix> not sure about the other
[18:45] <FlipBill> You can see them by doing "ip ro sh" for the main one (32766), and the alt with "ip ro sh tab netflix"
[18:46] <FlipBill> So far so good?
[18:46] <eff_netflix> ok yea
[18:46] <eff_netflix> i have that
[18:46] <FlipBill> OK...
[18:46] <eff_netflix> my regular traffic goes through the vpn. it's confirmed
[18:46] <FlipBill> So now do "ip ru sh"
[18:47] <FlipBill> You should see lookup rules for netflix and main and default
[18:47] <FlipBill> That is "from all" and to "to {NETFLIX_IP}"
[18:48] <FlipBill> Oh, but wait, I didn't consider precedence.  Maybe that could be a problem....
[18:48] <eff_netflix> nope not in there
[18:48] <FlipBill> How are you checking where the Netflix packets go?
[18:49] <FlipBill> Oh, the lookup rule is not in three?
[18:49] <eff_netflix> nope i dont see netflix's ip in there
[18:49] <FlipBill> You did a "ip ru add to ... table netflix", ?  Can you try it again and see if any complaints?
[18:50] <eff_netflix> done no complaints
[18:51] <FlipBill> OK, but still not shown by "ip ru sh"?
[18:52] <eff_netflix> am i supposed to see netflix's ip in there?
[18:52] <FlipBill> Forgive me for this...
[18:52] <FlipBill> root@port:~/Desktop# echo 155 banana >> /etc/iproute2/rt_tables
[18:52] <FlipBill> root@port:~/Desktop# ip ru add to 199.45.67.88 table banana
[18:52] <FlipBill> root@port:~/Desktop# ip ru sh
[18:52] <FlipBill> 0:      from all lookup local
[18:52] <FlipBill> 32765:  from all to 199.45.67.88 lookup banana
[18:53] <eff_netflix> http://pastebin.com/AZwVux4M
[18:53] <frenda> Ben64: I asked how to show that *kind of* captions (subtitles)!
[18:53] <FlipBill> Yes, I was bad
[18:54] <FlipBill> I'll pastebin
[18:55] <pa> is it possible that i have a desktop pc ( a shuttle xpc cube i7 920) that runs 12.04 but doesn't run 14.04 or 16.04???
[18:55] <pa> sounds almost impossible, but..
[18:56] <imkillingmyselfh> I have a problem with the AMD open source drivers in 16.04, I am forced to use nomodeset. This wasn't a problem in the previous versions of Ubuntu because I could just use the fglrx driver, but in 16.04 it's now unsupported.
[18:56] <imkillingmyselfh> I need help getting the open source drivers to work with an r7 370.
[18:56] <FlipBill> eff_netflix, I put a sample in the pastebin
[18:56] <bekks> pa: Having that CPU, it is able to run > 12.04
[18:56] <eff_netflix> ? where?
[18:57] <pa> bekks, what happens is: kernel stalls after 2-3 seconds it starts booting
[18:57] <FlipBill> The pastebin you pointed me at.  Did I use it the wrong way?
[18:57] <pa> and i cant figure out why
[18:57] <bekks> pa: define "stalls".
[18:57] <FlipBill> http://pastebin.com/0ZYjahrN
[18:57] <pa> bekks, hangs and doesnt move further. last thing it says "DMAR-IR: IOAPIC id 8 under DRHD base ...."
[18:57] <FlipBill> eff_netflix, There, maybe that's better
[18:58] <bekks> pa: try using the kernel command line option: intel_iommu=on
[18:59] <eff_netflix> http://pastebin.com/p77NFyyS
[18:59] <pa> bekks, thanks i try
[19:00] <eff_netflix> brb 5 mins
[19:00] <FlipBill> eff_netflix, Looks like ru add worked twice.  Do a ru del to fix that.
[19:06] <_unreal_> arg... http://paste.ubuntu.com/21548208/
[19:06] <_unreal_> every image file gives me an error
[19:06] <_unreal_> http://www.geexbox.org/geexbox-for-embedded-devices-creating-a-bootable-sd-card/ I dotnloaded the bz2 image file
[19:07] <bekks> _unreal_: there is no error in your pastebin.
[19:07] <pa> bekks, sadly it doesn't help... thanks, anyway
[19:08] <_unreal_> didnt post the error
[19:08] <_unreal_> gurr
[19:08] <FlipBill> effectnet, I just tried a similar thing with "to" rule successfully.  It should work.
[19:08] <_unreal_> bzip2: (stdin) is not a bzip2 file.
[19:08] <_unreal_> thats the error
[19:08] <FlipBill> Ooops, that message was for eff_netflix
[19:09] <bekks> _unreal_: using which command and which file exactly?
[19:09] <_unreal_> http://www.geexbox.org/geexbox-for-embedded-devices-creating-a-bootable-sd-card/    using this script for the cubox which is the first link
[19:10] <_unreal_> and from downloads the other one for the cubox
[19:11] <_unreal_> I downloaded the image file twice now
[19:11] <bekks> _unreal_: what the output of "file geexbox-3.1.cubox.tar.bz2"?
[19:11] <_unreal_> data
[19:12] <_unreal_> unless maybe there is someting worng with the file its self?
[19:13] <bekks> _unreal_: your download is corrupted. A .tar.bz2 should return something like: bzip2 compressed data, block size = 900k
[19:14] <_unreal_> ya just tried opening it with archive manager and it gave me errors
[19:14] <_unreal_> freaking hell its like every image file on the net for this cubox is corrupted
[19:14] <_unreal_> doesnt matter who made it
[19:15] <_unreal_> ubuntu, arch, ........
[19:16] <bekks> _unreal_: sound like your internet connection may be the cause.
[19:17] <_unreal_> nope I even tried downloading with my phone and a different computer still same results
[19:17] <_unreal_> oh well time to take a break
[19:17] <_unreal_> thanks
[19:17] <OerHeks> unreal use a torrent then to copmpare
[19:18] <pavlushka> _unreal_: try to verify the md5sum of the downloaded images
[19:19] <pavlushka> _unreal_: and you can correct your images without re-downloading by zsync.
[19:22] <c0d3v3n0m> hi
[19:23] <c0d3v3n0m> im having trouble installing wifi drivers for mediatek wireless adapter MT7630e
[19:24] <c0d3v3n0m> im having trouble installing wifi drivers for mediatek wireless adapter MT7630e. Where can i find the drivers. Please help
[19:27] <OerHeks> i cannot type your name cod3v [tab] why do people make it so hard
[19:27] <OerHeks> did you look in additional drivers? type drivers in dash
[19:28] <bekks> OerHeks: its c zero d three ... :)
[19:28] <c0d3v3n0m> i have downloaded source code from github
[19:28] <opv> hey everyone, i made a mistake - installed a repo package but selected N to modified sources.list files. reinstalling the package doesn't present me with that dialog again. how do i fix?
[19:28] <c0d3v3n0m> but having difficulty compiling it
[19:28] <c0d3v3n0m> sorry for hard name
[19:29] <theorem> I am having trouble listening to audio when pairing a bluetooth headset.  When I use the Bluetooth GUI to change settings the settings don't 'stick' and switch back to a broken state.
[19:29] <theorem> has anyone else experienced this ?  I'm not sure how to even search for this problem
[19:30] <BluesKaj> CodeMouse92,  https://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/1796
[19:31] <CodeMouse92> BluesKaj: Not sure you aimed that for me. :)
[19:31] <OerHeks> opv what repopackage exactly ?
[19:31] <CodeMouse92> (And I think c0d3v3n0m just left.)
[19:32] <opv> OerHeks: kxstudio-repos - i'm on 16.04LTS
[19:33] <BluesKaj> oops sorry CodeMouse92 it was meant for a user who left
[19:33] <eff_netflix> hey
[19:33] <Eliza777> How to autorun 2 VT in lightdm?
[19:33] <OerHeks> opv, we had a kxstudio ppa, that points to http://kxstudio.linuxaudio.org/Repositories
[19:34] <ducasse> opv: 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure kxstudio-repos' maybe?
[19:34] <avionic> hi
[19:35] <OerHeks> it is just a direct download, then install it :: sudo dpkg -i kxstudio-repos_9.2.2~kxstudio1_all.deb
[19:35] <opv> OerHeks: thx
[19:35] <FlipBill> hey
[19:36] <nik> ive upgraded from 14.04 to 16.04 and now my wifi isnt working!!
[19:36] <BluesKaj> c0d3v3n0m https://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/1796
[19:37] <opv> ducasse: also thx :)
[19:38] <BluesKaj> or is it nik ?  https://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/1796
[19:40] <bluesign> anyone using ubuntu on macbook 8,1 early 2015? i have mixed feedback from search, all stuff working, planning to wipe osx totally
[19:40] <nik> thanks BluesKaj !!
[19:42] <sslove> bluesign, i have been using ubuntu for years on an older 17" macbook pro 4,1
[19:43] <bekks> sslove: No need for an unasked query, keep it in the channel please.
[19:45] <sslove> bekks, huh?
[19:53] <gpubroken> I am having an issue with my laptop running Ubuntu 16.04.1 I cannot use my discrete GPU no matter what I try. Would anyone be able to help me I can go into more details if someone is interested.
[19:56] <rajivmars> what is the best server settings for downloading softwares "main server" or "server from the us"?
[19:57] <mac_nibblet> Heya, Anyone else here have a dell xps 9550 ?
[19:57] <OerHeks> rajivmars, you check it, what is faster?
[19:57] <mac_nibblet> My fan are running non-stop and it's pretty much killing the battery
[19:57] <gpubroken> the one that is closes to you
[19:57] <gpubroken> blow the dust out of your computer
[19:58] <mac_nibblet> gpubroken, are you referring to me :P?
[19:58] <Eliza777> How to autorun 2 VT on lightdm?
[19:58] <rajivmars> OerHeks: Ok.
[19:58] <gpubroken> yes
[19:58] <mac_nibblet> gpubroken, it's a brand new computer >_<
[19:58] <rajivmars> OerHeks: is there any way to check?
[19:58] <mac_nibblet> gpubroken, and cpu temp is 35c
[19:59] <gpubroken> @mac_niblet no its pretty old first gen i3
[19:59] <OerHeks> rajivmars, on what linux version?
[19:59] <rajivmars> OerHeks: Ubuntu 16.04.
[19:59] <mac_nibblet> gpubroken, o.0?
[20:00] <mac_nibblet> gpubroken, it's the dell xps 15 9550 (2016 model)
[20:00] <gpubroken> @mac_nibblet sorry, im brain dead
[20:00] <OerHeks> rajivmars, go into sources, select 'other'then you will see 'select best server' nice too to get the fastest mirror (now)
[20:00] <gpubroken> what is the cpu
[20:00] <n1cko> Hello  everyone this is my first time in  irc!!
[20:00] <mac_nibblet> gpubroken, Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-6700HQ CPU @ 2.60GHz
[20:01] <OerHeks> and any way to check would be see what update does, it gives times to download lists in terminal
[20:02] <rajivmars> OerHeks: I have just installed ubuntu 16.04. It consumes about 1.2 gb of physical memory. Do you have any idea?
[20:02] <mac_nibblet> gpubroken, it shouldn't be the nvidia carding acting up either
[20:02] <OerHeks> rajivmars, is that bad?
[20:02] <mac_nibblet> since i'm using the intel
[20:02] <OerHeks> tell us why :-P
[20:02] <gpubroken> @mac_nibblet it might be because its a skylake, and ubuntu isent using the latest kernel
[20:02] <mac_nibblet> gpubroken, so i should try the 4.6 kernel ?
[20:03] <mac_nibblet> gpubroken, i'm using the 4.4.0-32 at the moment
[20:03] <mac_nibblet> eh, 31 not 32
[20:03] <gpubroken> mac_nibblet a newer kernel could solve the problem
[20:03] <mac_nibblet> okej
[20:03] <mac_nibblet> Ill give it a go
[20:04] <mac_nibblet> just installed the computer a few days ago so it's not like I would lose anything
[20:04] <mac_nibblet> http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2016/05/install-linux-kernel-4-6-ubuntu-16-04/
[20:04] <mac_nibblet> lol
[20:04] <mac_nibblet> dell laptop support enchancements
[20:04] <mac_nibblet> Nice
[20:04] <rajivmars> OerHeks: it consumes 1.2 gb of memory and i am only using the chatclient now. Isn't it too much?
[20:04] <mac_nibblet> rajivmars, are you using google chrome for the chat client :D_
[20:05] <rajivmars> mac_nibblet: no. i am using hexchat.
[20:05] <mac_nibblet> gpubroken, you wouldn't happen to know a PPA for ubuntu kernels ?
[20:06] <gpubroken> I think PPA is for proprietary software
[20:06] <mac_nibblet> yay
[20:06] <ducasse> rajivmars: some of that memory is probably used as cache
[20:06] <mac_nibblet> and now thw trackpad died again
[20:06] <gpubroken> mac_nibblet I think you can download the non LST Ubuntu to get kernel 4.6
[20:07] <sexteenDot04dot1> Kubuntu-16.04.1 ISO verify failure: http://pastebin.com/rB9QEvWc
[20:07] <sexteenDot04dot1> where are the keys?
[20:07] <mac_nibblet> gpubroken, yeah found a lots of downloads
[20:07] <mac_nibblet> but I was thinking ppa would be better so it would auto update
[20:07] <sexteenDot04dot1> kubuntu owned?
[20:08] <OerHeks> sexteenDot04dot1, likely you used the wrong command, what kubuntu iso do you try to check?
[20:08] <sexteenDot04dot1> OerHeks: exact copy of http://www.ubuntu.com/download/how-to-verify used to verify
[20:08] <sexteenDot04dot1> OerHeks: kde64
[20:10] <OerHeks> sexteenDot04dot1, 14.04 or 16.04 or 16.04.1 ?
[20:10] <OerHeks> checksums look like this http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/16.04.1/release/MD5SUMS
[20:10] <sexteenDot04dot1> Kubuntu-16.04.1-KDE-64 ISO verify failure: http://pastebin.com/rB9QEvWc
[20:10] <kholdstayre> where do i put a bash script so that it will run when my comp wakes from sleep?
[20:10] <bekks> sexteenDot04dot1: And?
[20:10] <sexteenDot04dot1> bekks: where are  the keys?
[20:11] <OerHeks> sexteenDot04dot1, answer the question please
[20:12] <bekks> sexteenDot04dot1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto
[20:12] <sexteenDot04dot1> OerHeks: Kubuntu-16.04.1-KDE-64 ISO verify failure: http://pastebin.com/rB9QEvWc
[20:12] <bekks> sexteenDot04dot1: Did you read the link I just gave you?
[20:12] <OerHeks> sexteenDot04dot1, then your valid md5 would be:: 79f46b96ae3b3fa858cccfd214478e2f *kubuntu-16.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso
[20:13] <rajivmars> ducasse: yeah.
[20:13] <OerHeks> see http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/16.04.1/release/MD5SUMS
[20:13] <tgm4883> sexteenDot04dot1: are you blocking that traffic? That command retreives the keys fine for me
[20:14] <sexteenDot04dot1> why different verify guides? http://www.ubuntu.com/download/how-to-verify
[20:14] <bekks> sexteenDot04dot1: because they use different methods.
[20:15] <rajivmars> ducasse: why the ubuntu logo has not shown during the booting process?
[20:15] <tgm4883> sexteenDot04dot1: technically, they are giving you a less secure way of checking it
[20:15] <sexteenDot04dot1> ok the second guide command has worked
[20:15] <tgm4883> sexteenDot04dot1: but it should be fine
[20:15] <sexteenDot04dot1> got the keys
[20:16] <sexteenDot04dot1> getting warmer
[20:18] <sexteenDot04dot1> Good sig verified
[20:18] <sexteenDot04dot1> thanx
[20:19] <mac_nibblet> hmm
[20:19] <mac_nibblet> wow
[20:20] <aletorrado> Hi! I'm planning to buy some retina screen laptop. Does ubuntu handle retina screens ok?
[20:20] <mac_nibblet> aletorrado, i'm using a 4k screen on a dell xps 15
[20:21] <mac_nibblet> aletorrado, and it works fine
[20:21] <aletorrado> I mean, does it scale correctly?
[20:21] <mac_nibblet> aletorrado, you do need to manually scale some programs
[20:21] <mac_nibblet> like spotify
[20:21] <mac_nibblet> but so far I have not found a program that didn't work for me
[20:21] <aletorrado> how do you do that?
[20:22] <Hammy> Hello, I am currently running ubuntu 12.04 and I have installed libmp3lame and lame for mixxx yet mixxx is not finding it. I am not sure how to correct this as I have tried everything. Can anyone help?
[20:22] <mac_nibblet> aletorrado, --force-device-scale-factor=2.2
[20:22] <mac_nibblet> aletorrado, is what I had to add to spotify to make it work for me
[20:22] <mac_nibblet> brb rebooting
[20:24] <mac_nibblet> back
[20:24] <danny_> Any advice on a decent .epub reader?  I don't need or want calibre's organization garbage and fbreader refuses to stop center justifying everything
[20:26] <kidn3ys> Hello, I think I'm missing something simple but can't seem to figure it out. I have IP connectivity to my DNS servers but can't seem to get anything to resolve. Is there something specific I need to do on 14.04 to get DNS resolution to work?
[20:26] <Hammy> Hello, I am on ubuntu 12.04 (mainly cause it's the version my system can support) I have installed mixxx and installed lame and lamemp3lib however I am running into the issue of mixxx says I do not have lame installed yet. Any suggestions what I can do as I have hit a wall?
[20:27] <bekks> kidn3ys: Check your firewall settings. And how do you test dns connectivity?
[20:27] <kidn3ys> bekks: trying just 'ping google.com' and dig.
[20:27] <kidn3ys> ah damnit...
[20:27] <kidn3ys> it's 'netmask' not 'mask' in /etc/network/interfaces
[20:28] <kidn3ys> yep, that was it. doh
[20:35] <matt__> hi
[20:35] <Stadtpirat> My Ubuntu won't boot because of "raise network interfaces" runs forever. I want to skip that. can I do that somehow by adding something to the grub entry?
[20:39] <Eliza777> How to autorun apps?
[20:39] <bekks> !autorun | Eliza777
[20:39] <bekks> hmm.
[20:40] <bekks> !autostart | Eliza777
[20:40] <Guest70179> will the Startup Disk Creator format my USB drive? (Asking because some other tools don't touch existing files, just unpack the iso and make it bootable)
[20:40] <Eliza777> And if WM?
[20:41] <danny_> Ghest70179: its gonna wipe that shit
[20:41] <EriC^^> Eliza777: make your own .desktop file in ~/.config/autostart
[20:41] <OerHeks> Eliza777, you asked in #debian too...
[20:41] <bazhang> no cursing here please danny_
[20:41] <EriC^^> naughty
[20:41] <bekks> Guest70179: it even tells you that it will overwrite stuff.
[20:41] <Eliza777> EriC^^, how?
[20:42] <EriC^^> Eliza777: i'll give you a sample of mine
[20:42] <Eliza777> EriC^^, ok
[20:42] <OerHeks> Guest70179, yes.
[20:42] <EriC^^> Eliza777: http://paste.ubuntu.com/21558347/
[20:43] <Guest70179> Thanks
[20:43] <EriC^^> Eliza777: make a .desktop file in ~/.config/autostart with that stuff and edit it to your liking
[20:43] <EriC^^> Eliza777: the tryExec and Exec lines are the lines for the command to run
[20:45] <Eliza777> EriC^^, and if 2 VT?
[20:45] <EriC^^> Eliza777: VT?
[20:46] <EriC^^> wht do you mean by 2 vt?
[20:46] <Eliza777> EriC^^, yes
[20:46] <EriC^^> those files run when you log into the gui
[20:46] <Eliza777> EriC^^, ctrl+alt+F8
[20:46] <kris_> [bug]Mouse pointer disappearing after resume from suspend any solution ?
[20:46] <kris_> for me on Xubuntu x64
[20:46] <Eliza777> EriC^^, 2 WM sessions of one user
[20:46] <OerHeks> Eliza777, you might want to repeat what you asked in #debian, all details ..
[20:47] <OerHeks> LoLz
[20:47] <Eliza777> EriC^^, I autorunned 2 WM sessions on 2 VT
[20:47] <Eliza777> always I mean
[20:48] <EriC^^> Eliza777: i think it'll run twice then
[20:48] <Eliza777> And need autorun apps on both
[20:48] <Eliza777> EriC^^, need different apps
[20:48] <EriC^^> kris_: try a new kernel maybe
[20:48] <EriC^^> Eliza777: scripting time :)
[20:48] <Eliza777> EriC^^, no
[20:49]  * tgm4883 wonders what Eliza777 is actually trying to do
[20:49] <Eliza777> EriC^^, hot wo all do it?
[20:49] <Eliza777> to
[20:49] <EriC^^> if [ "$DISPLAY" == ":1" ]; then do ... ; fi
[20:49] <EriC^^> :0 for alt+f7 :1 for alt+f8
[20:50] <Eliza777> import static java.lang.System.apps
[20:50] <EriC^^> O.o
[20:50] <Eliza777> EriC^^, maybe xinitrc?
[20:51] <EriC^^> no
[20:51] <Eliza777> fi si else?
[20:51] <tgm4883> so many questions, why does it have to be the same user, are these graphical applications, why does it need to be separate WMs?
[20:51] <Eliza777> is
[20:51] <EriC^^> make 1 script, and have those if statements in them so different display's run different apps as startup
[20:51] <EriC^^> and put the script as the command
[20:52] <Eliza777> EriC^^, pastebin :)
[20:53] <EriC^^> if [ "$DISPLAY" == ":0" ]; then /path/to/app; elif [ "$DISPLAY" == ":1" ]; then /path/to/app2; fi
[20:54] <EriC^^> put #!/bin/bash at the top of the script
[20:55] <Eliza777> EriC^^, and then add to autorun?
[20:55] <EriC^^> yeah
[20:55] <Eliza777> ok
[20:55] <Eliza777> crutches
[20:58] <lamp> hi
[21:00] <thevoid_> quit()
[21:02] <tommy_> ciao
[21:03] <tommy_> come va
[21:03] <EriC^^> !it | tommy_
[21:07] <moch> im having problems with my windows xp computer
[21:07] <moch> im a 60 year old woman
[21:07] <moch> my grandson told me to come here
[21:08] <\9> .. what.
[21:08] <Tundra-Server> Good afternoon everyone, I'm having some issues with a fresh install. The DM will not start(however the tty's work fine). From there I don't know what else to tell you. I'll provide any more information that may be relevent
[21:09] <EriC^^> Tundra-Server: try sudo ubuntu-drivers devices in the tty
[21:09] <EriC^^> sudo ubuntu-drivers devices | nc termbin.com 9999
[21:10] <mhg> hi, i can't run vmware on ubuntu. the output is like http://askubuntu.com/questions/707281/vmware-workstation-12-vmmon-not-found-or-not-loaded  or http://askubuntu.com/questions/762210/vmware-error-after-upgrade-to-ubuntu-16-04
[21:10] <mhg> sudo modprobe vmnet => modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'vmnet': Required key not available
[21:11] <Tundra-Server> EriC^^: What then?
[21:11] <EriC^^> Tundra-Server: paste the link it gives you here
[21:11] <Tundra-Server> EriC^^: no link was given to me
[21:12] <EriC^^> with the nc
[21:12] <EriC^^> part too?
[21:12] <Tundra-Server> Oh, oops
[21:13] <mhg> any idea?
[21:13] <Tundra-Server> EriC^^: generates no link
[21:14] <EriC^^> odd
[21:15] <EriC^^> is the recommended driver installed?
[21:16] <Tundra-Server> EriC^^: dunno
[21:17] <EriC^^> which one does it say is recommended?
[21:17] <Tundra-Server> It doesn't
[21:17] <EriC^^> what does it show you
[21:18] <mhg> Please help me!!!
[21:19] <Tundra-Server> EriC^^: alot
[21:19] <Tundra-Server> I dunno what the best way to give it all to you is
[21:19] <EriC^^> Tundra-Server: try sudo ubuntu-drivers devices | curl -F "sprunge=<-" sprunge.us
[21:24] <Tundra-Server> EriC^^: nada
[21:27] <Eliza777> And how to autorun 2 users on lightdm?
[21:27] <Eliza777> please
[21:31] <Eliza777> All sleep? Ok
[21:36] <asap> I'm using German-Suiss keyboard and Ive re-installed Xubuntu from x32bits to x64, and now Ive an issues : I have to press shift + associated key for "é" without this I have ö whereas before the new installation I could only press the key for é to print it
[21:37] <mhg> Please help me!!! any idea??
[21:37] <Kikko_461> hi
[21:38] <aysolk> Hi
[22:00] <m3rcury> hello
[22:06] <jazzie> so.. 16.04 lts doesnt handle wifi bcm4316 aka pci-id 14e4:43ae without fancy footwork within ndswrapper?
[22:06] <jazzie> ndiswrapper rather
[22:08] <jazzie> anyone....anyone..... voodoo economics
[22:08]  * jazzie blinks
[22:08] <OerHeks> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1576815
[22:09] <OerHeks> nope, ndiswrappes is your 'ugly' solution, or buy another one
[22:09] <bekks> ndiswrapper is even uglier than "no solution".
[22:09]  * jazzie chuckles
[22:10] <jazzie> i concur about the unappealing visual
[22:10] <jazzie> side note: appararently it is a wifi targeted for brazilian telcom
[22:11] <jazzie> likely just foot the bill for a different wifi circuit and drop it in the lappy
[22:11] <OerHeks> jazzie, how romantic
[22:11] <jazzie> just more fun to do the gnuradio stuff uncabled...
[22:20] <anew> how can i easily edit files on my server?  i cant ftp because i cant sudo su - from ftp... and using an editor via putty is a pain
[22:21] <OerHeks> anew, setup ssh with root access
[22:21] <OerHeks> !ssh
[22:22] <jazzie> OerHeks, thank you kindly for your help. I hope your future is bright and you have to wear shades :) catch ya on the darkside..
[22:26] <anew> oerheks ssh with putty ?
[22:27] <anew> ah yes, i am using putty
[22:27] <callandor> Hi all
[22:27] <anew> is there a tut on how to edit files locally then ?
[22:31] <bekks> anew: transfer them, edit them, transfer them back.
[22:31] <callandor> ping
[22:31] <rajivmars> How to remove the "Amazon" app from ubuntu 16.04?
[22:31] <bekks> anew: or just use a console text editor, like vim, nano, or joe.
[22:31] <anew> OerHeks, "You cannot use Putty to download the files"
[22:31] <bekks> anew: so use winscp
[22:31] <anew> bekks, i need to sudo su - to edit files...
[22:32] <dirk__> Hi all!
[22:32] <Mr> hello
[22:32] <OerHeks> i won't use putty to control files on a server, i use SSH, see ubottu
[22:32] <bekks> sudo su -  is considered nonsense, since there is sudo -s and sudo -i
[22:32] <OerHeks> download file, edit, upload.
[22:32] <anew> OerHeks, it says right ther ein the link u posted "PuTTY"
[22:32] <tgm4883> rajivmars: go to settings, "security & privacy", search tab, turn off "include online search results"
[22:33] <bekks> anew: either use winscp (and scp, not ftp), or edit the files on the server, using a text editor of your choice.
[22:33] <OerHeks> oh, my bad, anew, i don't use windows at all
[22:33] <bekks> anew: for transferring files using SSH, use WinSCP ...
[22:33] <tgm4883> much easier/cleaner to just edit the files on the server
[22:33] <anew> bekks, editing on the server is not possible... and winscp i cant edit the files without sudo
[22:33] <rajivmars> tgm4883: its already turn off.
[22:33] <anew> how is it easier to edit on the server ?
[22:34] <tgm4883> anew: why can't you edit the files on teh server?
[22:34] <anew> if i have to multiline edit... it's just a pain
[22:34] <tgm4883> anew: uh, 'sudo nano /path/to/file', edit the file, save file
[22:34] <bekks> anew: Do you read what I am writing to you?
[22:34] <rajivmars> tgm4883: I want to remove the Amazon app.
[22:34] <anew> bekks, i cant use winscp with my user, i have to sudo
[22:35] <tgm4883> anew: why is multiline edit a pain?
[22:35] <bekks> anew: So use sudo, but dont use sudo su -, and use the text editor of your choice.
[22:36] <anew> i cant sudo with winscp !
[22:36] <tgm4883> anew: use putty!
[22:36] <Eliza777> Eric^^, ???
[22:36] <anew> putty you cant download files!
[22:36] <EriC^^> Eliza777: no idea
[22:36] <tgm4883> anew: don't download the files, edit it on the server!
[22:36] <anew> facepalm
[22:36] <tgm4883> anew: look, let me break it down for you. You have two options.
[22:36] <bekks> anew: yeah, you have been told the same thing five times now.
[22:37] <tgm4883> 1) You edit the files directly on the server
[22:37] <anew> editing these files on the server will be a total and complete pain in the butt
[22:37] <Eliza777> Eric^^, How to autorun 2 users on lightdm?
[22:37] <anew> not an option, has to be some way to edit them locally
[22:37] <bekks> anew: you have been told how to do it multiple times.
[22:37] <dirk__> tgm4883 option 2 is a long one
[22:37] <dirk__> still typing
[22:37] <anew> what's option 2
[22:38] <tgm4883> 2) You copy the files to a location that you can write to with winscp. You then copy the files to your local box, edit them, then use winscp to copy the files back to the server. You then use putty to copy the files back to the area that only root can write to
[22:38] <anew> if there is some way to winscp with my user please
[22:38] <anew> that's good
[22:38] <tgm4883> those are the only two supported solutions here
[22:38] <anew> i'll take option 2
[22:38] <dirk__> ok since you told him what to do
[22:38] <dirk__> could i ask you guys something
[22:38] <tgm4883> but my god is option 2 a cluster....
[22:38] <EriC^^> Eliza777: no idea
[22:38] <anew> editing a perl script on the server is worse
[22:38] <tgm4883> anew: what files are you trying to edit that doing it on the server is more of a PITA than option 2?
[22:39] <tgm4883> !help | dirk__
[22:39] <l33n> anyone have some insight into this problem: https://ptpb.pw/CZDe
[22:39] <l33n> why is this happening and how do i stop it from happening https://ptpb.pw/CZDe
[22:40] <YankDownUnder> l33n: Have you installed all the necessary drivers for your system?
[22:41] <dirk__> Raspberry 3 with analog audio is not working. how to fix? I already looked on internet. (not good enough proberly) running ubuntu mate
[22:41] <anew> tgm4883, cant i just make the dir i'm trying to edit give myself permission?
[22:41] <l33n> well the module that runs the device thats failing also controls the touchpad which works
[22:42] <tgm4883> anew: there's lots of things you could do. But without knowing more about what you're trying to edit, I'd be uncomfortable giving any other options
[22:42] <YankDownUnder> l33n: Hmm...and that being?
[22:42] <l33n> hid
[22:42] <anew> tgm4883, i just have a dir of perl filels in var/www i need to edit
[22:42] <YankDownUnder> l33n: Yeah - that bit I got - so, HID being your keyboard, other input, or...?
[22:43] <anew> should i make that dir 077 ?
[22:43] <l33n> whats failing? im not exactly sure whatever is in https://ptpb.pw/CZDe
[22:43] <l33n> multitouch?
[22:43] <tgm4883> anew: then you could probably add yourself to the group
[22:43] <YankDownUnder> l33n: Cuz "i2c" is usually related to sensors...
[22:43] <tgm4883> anew: I definitely wouldn't give others write access to that directory
[22:44] <anew> what should i search in google to find out how to add me to the group
[22:44] <YankDownUnder> l33n: Again, the question begs to be asked, have you installed all the necessary drivers for the system? You can always check by opening a terminal and typing: sudo ubuntu-drivers list
[22:44] <tgm4883> 'how to add a user to a group on ubuntu server'
[22:44] <FlipBill> tgm4883, usermod -G option
[22:45] <anew> ty
[22:45] <tgm4883> FlipBill: lol
[22:45] <l33n> what if i just want to stop linux from even worrying about that device
[22:45] <l33n> i dont even want to use multitouch
[22:45] <FlipBill> tgm4883, lol?
[22:45] <YankDownUnder> l33n: Was there anything listed from that command I gave you ?
[22:46] <tgm4883> FlipBill: that was my bad, I didn't highlight the user I was talking to so you assumed I was asking a question
[22:46] <l33n> nothing
[22:46] <l33n> i tried downloading i2cdetect
[22:46] <Eliza777> How to autorun 2 users on lightdm?
[22:46] <l33n> which lists nothing when i run i2cdetect -l
[22:47] <FlipBill> tgm4883, Oh, sorry.  One I on the IRC, not paying much attention.
[22:47] <FlipBill> One eye
[22:47] <l33n> is there a way to blacklist a device, like i cant blacklist hid without losing the touchpad etc all together
[22:47] <l33n> but it would be nice to blacklist hid-multitouch
[22:48] <YankDownUnder> l33n: If you want to "blacklist" modules, that's easy enough to do => https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-blacklist-a-module-on-ubuntu-debian-linux
[22:49] <mach20x> I'm stuck, it won't finish reinstalling the Ubuntu operating system
[22:49] <l33n> yeah but
[22:49] <l33n> not the module
[22:49] <l33n> which is hid
[22:49] <l33n> which would stop a lot of things
[22:50] <l33n> like the entire touchpad
[22:50] <anew> usermod -a -G group user   does 'group' here mean the dir? so var/www ?
[22:50] <l33n> the thing thats failing is a device
[22:50] <mach20x> Should I do a hardware shut down and try to go through the process all over again?
[22:50] <l33n> the one thats listed here https://ptpb.pw/CZDe
[22:50] <bekks> anew: "group" mean usergroup, not "some directory".
[22:50] <anew> oh
[22:50] <anew> how do i specify the dir ?
[22:50] <pennTeller> hi guys I have a weird issue, out of the blue GRUB started showing Trisquel instead of Ubuntu and now when I try to apt-get update I get a GPG error
[22:51] <bekks> anew: the directory is not to be specified in the command you are using.
[22:51] <pennTeller> screenfetch also started showing Trisquel instead of ubuntu
[22:51] <tgm4883> pennTeller: what did you install?
[22:51] <anew> sudo chown -R testuser:testuser /var/www/test/public_html
[22:51] <anew> ?
[22:51] <l33n> do you see what i mean?
[22:51] <bekks> anew: you where asking about: 0731 005008 < anew> usermod -a -G group user   does 'group' here mean the dir? so var/www ?
[22:52] <pennTeller> tgm4883: nothing out of the odrinary, last think I installed was python
[22:52] <anew> i'm just trying to do what tgm4883 said
[22:52] <mach20x> Type letters CD, and then chose the location @bekks
[22:52] <YankDownUnder> l33n: Yes, I see that - however, the resolution to the mystery would be finding the "nasty" module, blacklisting it...is this particular error keeping your system from running, or is it causing any issues aside from being annoying?
[22:53] <l33n> well the module is hid
[22:53] <l33n> which runs a lot of important things
[22:53] <l33n> like the entire touchpad
[22:53] <l33n> so i cant blacklist it
[22:53] <l33n> its an annoyance
[22:54] <l33n> the system runs but it takes an extra minute for the system to load
[22:54] <l33n> it just seems to keep trying to reset the device
[22:54] <l33n> which always ends with error -61
[22:54] <l33n> as seen here https://ptpb.pw/CZDe
[22:56] <l33n> well its weird, when i do lsmod of the modules listed there is i2c_hid and hid, but it says one of the devices that hid governs is i2c_hid
[22:56] <pennTeller> ok for what its worth, I managed to fix my issue using this link: http://askubuntu.com/questions/20725/gpg-error-the-following-signatures-couldnt-be-verified-because-the-public-key
[22:57] <YankDownUnder> l33n: Is it safe to assume that you've updated your system - just to see if after and update this isn't resolved? And on that token, have you looked through your BIOS to make sure that everythings all good and happy? Just asking...
[22:57] <mach20x> I just restarted the system
[22:58] <l33n> what do you mean by that YankDownUnder
[22:58] <l33n> im still pretty new
[23:02] <mach20x> I created the mount point as / is that correct?
[23:03] <mach20x> For reinstalling
[23:15] <dirk__> he y'all
[23:15] <dirk__> thanks my problem is solved ;)
[23:15] <dirk__> byebye
[23:45] <sikun> which fork of Ubuntu comes default with a more simplier/needs less resources
[23:46] <dax> s/fork/flavor/, and I'd look at Lubuntu or Xubuntu
[23:47] <sikun> I have a Xubuntu I would have to assume is Xfce?
[23:47] <dax> yes
[23:47] <sikun> wow I can't type at all today
[23:49] <sikun> Debian doesn't like my UEFI BIOS, or the UEFI BIOS is jsut garbage
[23:49] <sikun> which it is
[23:50] <dax> Debian works fine with my UEFI setup, so...
[23:50] <dax> if Secure Boot is on, you'll want to turn it off
[23:50] <dax> but, for Debian discussion, see #debian
[23:51] <sikun> yeah, it was just meant as what I've tried so far
[23:51] <sikun> I am in debian
[23:51] <sikun> no luck with their help
[23:51] <sikun> so going to try ubuntu