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Sik	I was about to update from Ubuntu 14.04 to 16.04 and now I'm looking at the list of packages it wants to remove and it wants to get rid of Audacious and XChat? The heck? (and PHP 5? I mean I know PHP 7 is around but it doesn't look to be in the install list either...) What do I do, that sounds stupid to remove.	00:06
Guest57254	hello, I need help. I am trying to compile the netgear drivers for device U341 but when I execute "sudo make all" I get an error on the path where it is trying to install. the path is insude /lib/modules/version/build but the last "folder" I think is a symlink	00:07
Guest57254	when I tried to create a folder I got an error message saying that cannot create directory - file exists...	00:07
tgm4883	Sik: xchat has been replaced with hexchat	00:09
Sik	Er OK but what about Audacious	00:09
tgm4883	Sik: not sure why it's trying to remove audacious, it's still in 16.04	00:09
OerHeks	maybe from ppa?	00:10
Guest57254	the error is "make[1]: *** /lib/modules/4.1.19-v7/build: No such file or director. Stop.	00:10
Sik	I'd think that if it needs updating then it'd be in the update list instead? ¯\(º_o)/¯ (also I suppose php can just be reinstalled, right? I don't mind switching to PHP 7 if needed)	00:10
Guest57254	has anyone experienced an issue similar to mine while trying to compile a driver using make all?	00:11
tgm4883	Sik: php5 is being removed because php7 is in 16.04	00:13
Sik	OK I guess it's just not installing it by default (I'd have expected it to be smarter than that :P but can cope, I was planning to update that anyway)	00:13
tgm4883	Sik: no, php5 isn't in 16.04 at all. That package does not exist	00:14
OerHeks	Guest57254, the manual suggest to use sudo checkinstall to build a .deb	00:14
OerHeks	https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware	00:14
tgm4883	Sik: same reason xchat is being removed	00:15
Sik	tgm4883: I mean I thought it'd replace it with php7 instead :P anyway, can confirm that audacious is there? Worst case I may need to reinstall it >.>;	00:15
tgm4883	because the package no longer exists	00:15
tgm4883	ah yea	00:15
Sik	Eh, maybe the package got renamed and I'm tripping over the same issue as with XChat and PHP	00:15
tgm4883	Sik: do you have the php package (not php5) installed in 14.04?	00:15
Sik	yes	00:16
Sik	Er or... OK dunno :D	00:16
Sik	Doesn't matter I'll just install php7 manually :P	00:16
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Sik	Let's hope the video side of things keep working after the upgrade ( ··) (got a copy of the minimal installer just in case...)	00:16
Guest57254	OerHeks: I might have a very old package then because that is not part of the instructions. Where did you find the info?	00:16
skinux	I need someone to help me figure out what package(s) I'm missing for having a launchable VLC. Here is an image of list of all VLC packages I've installed. https://imgur.com/a/9rLUM	00:16
OerHeks	https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware	00:17
tgm4883	Sik: if you had the php package installed in 14.04, i'd expect it to install php7 as part of the upgrade	00:17
tgm4883	http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/php	00:17
skinux	Does 16.04 come with a DVD ripper out of the box?	00:24
YankDownUnder	skinux: You can very quickly and easily install "Handbrake".	00:25
skinux	Not without internet I can't.	00:25
YankDownUnder	skinux: Ah. Right. Well, that's true.	00:25
OerHeks	with dd you can 'rip' an iso	00:26
skinux	By the way, I put in an actual Wireless CARD into the machine PCI, it sees it but again won't give me a way to connect to any wireless.	00:26
skinux	YankDownUnder: My problems would be over if I could just get VLC installed properly. I installed the packages for it, but the system says it doesn't exist	00:28
tgm4883	skinux: did you compile VLC?	00:28
skinux	Nah, installed it via packages	00:28
skinux	Here you can see all the packages I installed. https://imgur.com/a/9rLUM	00:29
Guest57254	OerHeks: I am having the same error while executing checkinstall. there seems to be a problem with the target directory	00:29
tgm4883	skinux: yea I was looking at that, and I don't see the actual VLC package	00:29
YankDownUnder	vlc, vlc-data, x264	00:31
tgm4883	skinux: you're taking these packages to a 16.04 box?	00:31
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delac	trying to get bridged vpn set up. Have only default pptp vpn packages installed. Creating a new bridge - there is no vpn option in the "Bridged connections". Is there a way to proceed?	00:57
Peetz0r	ohai! when I use uqiquity to install ubuntu-mate and in the process ask it to make a new partition table,does it create an MBR or an GPT table?	01:04
YankDownUnder	Peetz0r: Kinda lost on your question - are you trying to install the "Mate" desktop inside of an already existing Ubuntu installation, or something different?	01:07
Peetz0r	skinux: for ripping video dvd's, just copy the VIDEO_TS folder somewhere	01:08
Peetz0r	it's lossless and fast and always works (and vlc understands video_ts folders)	01:08
Peetz0r	YankDownUnder: i'm tryong to install ubuntu-mate (the distro) but this question would probably apply to all ubuntu flavors	01:08
Bashing-om	Peetz0r: Whichever, In a "manual" install .. the installed in UEFI mode == GPT .. with the legacy partitioning == msdos .	01:09
Peetz0r	when in the installer, you click the "new partition table" button, what kind of partition table does it write?	01:09
Peetz0r	Bashing-om: how do i check which mode the installer thinks it's in?	01:09
Peetz0r	would be nice to display thos somewhere in the installer (especially when manually partitioning)	01:10
Peetz0r	this*	01:10
avis	with GPT you often need a 1000MB bios reserved partition, then the rest works, and often partitions are in order.	01:10
Peetz0r	I know that, that was not my question	01:10
Bashing-om	Peetz0r: If the directory /sys/firmware/efi/ exists then you're booted via UEFI, and the installer will therefore try to install for UEFI .	01:11
Peetz0r	ok, thanks	01:12
sabat	Anyone have any experience with TotalVPN? Their website has instructions for Mint & Fedora. I figured with ubuntu & mint both being debian based that it would also work on ubuntu but I'm having no luck.	01:17
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aFeijo_	no more xchat for ubuntu 16, which one do you guys use?	01:29
derfoh	I use theloung	01:29
gbaker	HexChat, basically same thing.	01:30
sabat	irssi is nice	01:30
derfoh	https://thelounge.github.io/	01:30
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aFeijo_	sabat: I'm using irssi, interesting but too different for my taste	01:30
derfoh	worth ccheking out the lounge if you are good with node https://thelounge.github.io/	01:30
aFeijo_	gbaker: I'll test, thanks	01:30
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Ravness	I have a question, How do I extend the battery life using Ubuntu? I also have Win10 dualbooted but it basically uses less battery	01:30
Ravness	I can get another hr at it even with using spotify or watching a movie than I would in Ubuntu	01:31
nicomachus	Ravness: see here for tips and tricks: https://askubuntu.com/questions/400/tips-to-extend-battery-life-for-laptops-and-notebooks	01:35
Ravness	Thanks, i'll check it out	01:36
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miles	So, I am installing Lubuntu 14.04 on my 2002 Sony Vaio PCG-FXA63. During installation the screen goes black and at one point the screen was flickering.	01:37
miles	Should I try a different Desktop Environment?	01:38
miles	Any help?	01:39
Bashing-om	!nomodeset \| miles	01:39
ubottu	miles: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter	01:39
aFeijo_	gbaker: I like it, thanks!!!	01:40
gbaker	aFeijo_: No prob :)	01:40
miles	I can't find the option in my BIOS. Is there another way?	01:45
miles	I found it actually	01:47
miles	When I press enter over the selected option on the cd installation menu, it makes an x by it.	01:48
miles	Any help?	01:48
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biswas	Hello guys, My update manager froze when it was updating mokutil. Now I my wifi is shown as UNCLAIMED in lspc -C network	01:51
biswas	I cannot use it	01:51
skinux	tgm4883: Yeah, I'm downloading packages on this laptop and taking them to a 16.04 box	01:56
skinux	I really just need whatever package I'm missing for executable VLC. I've installed most of them: ttps://imgur.com/a/9rLUM	01:57
tgm4883	skinux: is your laptop Ubuntu?	01:57
skinux	Ubuntu 14.04.1	01:57
hsphost	hi	01:57
skinux	I'm waiting for 16.04 upgrade to be available to upgrade this laptop.	01:58
tgm4883	skinux: why aren't you using the offline stuff then?	01:58
tgm4883	!offline	01:58
ubottu	If you need to download Ubuntu packages using another machine or OS, check the desired packages in Synaptic and select File > Generate package download script. See also !APTonCD	01:58
skinux	What do you mean by using the offline stuff?	01:58
tgm4883	That way is way easier	01:58
skinux	Would I generate the script on 16.04 or 14.04.1?	02:00
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tgm4883	!aptoncd	02:02
ubottu	APTonCD is a tool with a graphical interface which allows you to create one or more CDs or DVDs with all of the packages you've downloaded via apt-get or aptitude, creating a removable repository that you can use on other computers - See also !offline	02:02
skinux	I can't burn discs, my drive never does it successfully.	02:02
sikun	so last night I was wondering around walmart and I noticed they had 32GB flash drives for like $8 or something, so I bought for of them and a 4 port USB hub. I just got around to plugging them all in and creating a RAID 0 array using all four drives.	02:02
skinux	I have to use USB to copy from this laptop to 16.04	02:02
sikun	pointless? yes. but I have a question about it	02:03
jookiyaya	is ubuntu debian based distro?	02:03
sikun	yes	02:03
jookiyaya	then why is ubuntu more popular than debian	02:03
sikun	because it was at first directly targeted as a Desktop OS	02:04
sikun	and it's ease of use	02:04
tgm4883	skinux: you could probably put that on a usb	02:04
skinux	Put which on a USB? APTonCD?	02:04
jookiyaya	what other "major based distros" are out there other than debian	02:04
sikun	hmm	02:04
tgm4883	skinux: yes	02:04
sikun	CentOS, RHEL, Slackware, Gentoo	02:05
skinux	I'm willing to give it a try	02:05
tgm4883	!ot \| jookiyaya	02:05
ubottu	jookiyaya: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!	02:05
sikun	uh, Arch	02:05
sikun	a whole crap load, I'm sure there is a wikipedia article that covers them all	02:05
skinux	I need to look for a driver for Mervell Technology Group 88w8335 Wireless as well	02:06
tgm4883	Major based distros? There's 3. Debian, redhat, and Slackware	02:06
jookiyaya	tgm4883 what about centos/gentoo/arch ? they are major based	02:07
jookiyaya	they are not*	02:07
sikun	ok, I did have a question with my 4x 32GB soft RAID 0 array.. hahaha, if I plug this hub into another Ubuntu machine, are the drives flagged by mdadm as being configured in a raid?	02:07
sikun	jookiya: give me a second, and join #ubuntu-offtopic	02:07
Apteryx	Hi! I'm using Remmina on Ubuntu 14.04 to remote to Ubuntu 15.10. Upon connectiing, I don't see the desktop. If I manually resize the window, I see the desktop, but it doesn't refresh except for the mouse. Any idea?	02:07
tgm4883	jookiyaya: nope	02:07
jookiyaya	tgm4833 why is siken saying it is	02:08
sikun	jookiyaya: everything is differnet, well except for like CentOS which is RHEL or OpenSUSE is SUSE	02:08
sikun	some have forks	02:08
sikun	you asked what are all the other major distros	02:08
sikun	you didn't specify debian	02:08
sikun	or ubuntu	02:08
jookiyaya	sikun major meaning they are original based: so ubuntu is not sicne it's debian based	02:09
sikun	Ubuntu has become it's own	02:09
Apteryx	sikun: I would think so. If I remember correctly the raid array information is recorded in the drives' headers. I could be wrong.	02:09
sikun	but it's roots are debian	02:09
sikun	there are forks from Ubuntu, such as Xubuntu, Lubuntu, hell.. many more.	02:10
skinux	Wait. APTonCD wil give me the 14.04 version not the 16.04 version	02:10
jookiyaya	sikun so it's not major	02:10
sikun	jookiyaya: what is not major?	02:10
sikun	ubuntu?	02:10
jookiyaya	ubuntu	02:10
sikun	Ubuntu is beyond major	02:10
jookiyaya	but it's debian based	02:10
tgm4883	jookiyaya: sikun redhat, Debian, Slackware https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1b/Linux_Distribution_Timeline.svg	02:10
sikun	thank you tgm4883	02:10
tgm4883	That is it	02:10
sikun	the fork list	02:10
jookiyaya	tgm4883 so every linux distro is based on those 3 ?	02:11
sikun	now throw the BSD's into there too	02:11
tgm4883	Jookiyaya look at the image	02:11
Monona	Is it possible to install android apps on ubuntu?	02:11
sikun	no	02:11
tgm4883	sikun: I'm pretty sure BSD distros aren't based on Linux	02:11
sikun	you can run an android emulator	02:12
jookiyaya	how do i zoom out	02:12
sikun	tgm4883: I meant on how they forked like the Linux ones have	02:12
jookiyaya	too big	02:12
tgm4883	Jookiyaya idk, that would depend on what you are viewing it in	02:12
miles	What is the best Linux distro for me: Sony Vaio PCG-FXA63 2002 (256mb ram, amd athlon 32 bit, 20b hard drive)?	02:12
sikun	miles: an OS I can't recommend from this channel	02:13
tgm4883	miles: I might be biased because this is the Ubuntu support chat, but I'm going to say Ubuntu	02:13
OerHeks	Lubuntu, or openbox	02:13
skinux	I see my problem. Synaptic in 14.04 lists 'vlc' package, packages.ubuntu.com for 16.04 doesn't have that package.	02:13
jookiyaya	tgm4883 what about gentoo? i heard gentoo is original based	02:14
miles	I have tried installing Lubuntu, but the screen goes black.	02:14
tgm4883	skinux: are you sure? I thought I saw it earlier	02:14
miles	brb	02:14
skinux	I just searched for it	02:14
tgm4883	!info vlc	02:14
ubottu	vlc (source: vlc): multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.2-5 (xenial), package size 1474 kB, installed size 4586 kB	02:14
skinux	Well..then where is it.	02:15
tgm4883	skinux: but very well apparently:-)	02:15
tgm4883	Lol autocorrect	02:15
skinux	I used my browser to search for it and it wasn't any of the resulting items.	02:15
tgm4883	skinux: I'm pretty sure it's the top one	02:16
skinux	The top one I see is browser-plugin-vlc	02:16
miles	back	02:16
tgm4883	http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=xenial&section=all&arch=any&keywords=vlc&searchon=names	02:17
miles	What is the best Ubuntu version and Desktop Environment for me: Sony Vaio PCG-FXA63 2002 (256mb ram, amd athlon 32 bit, 20b hard drive)?	02:17
tgm4883	skinux: you searched with a capital v, which puts it 3 or 4 down the list	02:17
sikun	brb	02:18
skinux	No I searched using all lowercase	02:18
Bashing-om	!nomodeset \| miles What results ?	02:18
ubottu	miles What results ?: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter	02:18
tgm4883	skinux: weird, that link I just posted has it as there top result for me	02:18
skinux	3 or 4 vlc-plugin-notify or vlc-plugin-sambda	02:18
miles	@bashing-om/ubottu I don	02:19
miles	don't know what results you mean	02:19
skinux	Okay, can you get me a link to the download page for that package?	02:19
Bashing-om	miles: Read the link tutirial on setting that "boot parameter" from grub .. what results when booting with the 'nomodeset' boot parameter ??	02:21
miles	Oh	02:22
OerHeks	Bashing-om, he was polling what ubuntu he should use, but he just needs to scroll back	02:22
tgm4883	http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/vlc	02:22
miles	I couldn't do anything with nomodeset or aspci at all. Pressing enter would make an X by the option.	02:25
skinux	Just nifty! I've downloaded it twice. It's 0 bytes	02:25
miles	But since it is not working and is doing nothing to my system.	02:25
miles	I was asking people what Ubuntu version I should use and Desktop Environment.	02:26
skinux	had to switch mirrors	02:26
skinux	FFS! A whole other list of dependencies	02:30
Bashing-om	miles: Not for a new user .. but there is the minimal install .. a very small footprint .	02:32
skinux	God damn it there just isn't any way to get this done. I gotta find a way of making wireless work!	02:33
linux	Hi	02:33
linux	I'm using Kubuntu 16.04 , Do I need upgread to 16.04.1?	02:33
rahtgaz	linux: No. As you upgrade from the upgrade manager, your version will change. Probably already has. type lsb_release -a	02:34
rahtgaz	point releases never require an explicit upgrade	02:35
skinux	GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH!	02:35
skinux	How did Canonical fuck up so much that I can't even get internet with an Ethernet cable.	02:35
tgm4883	skinux: I dont know what wireless you have, but if it's causing this much trouble maybe you should buy a new wireless card	02:36
skinux	The wireless USB adapter WAS working with Windows XP just three days ago before I wiped the drive and installed Ubuntu.	02:36
rahtgaz	you mean one of those usb routers? pen-like?	02:37
skinux	And the DAMNED thing won't work with Ethernet cable, which I tested with THIS laptop and it worked fine.	02:37
linux	rahtgaz Thank you , my ubuntu already was 16.04.1.	02:38
tgm4883	Skinux for the wireless, I want suggesting it was broken. I was suggesting purchasing one that was well supported	02:38
skinux	I bet the damn thing would be fine if I had connected it before actually installing	02:38
tgm4883	skinux: that's an easy test, pop in the live cd	02:38
skinux	NetGear is pretty well supported	02:38
rahtgaz	skinux: for sure. When it comes to wireless, if you connect during live cd, you will not be sorry	02:39
tgm4883	skinux: I don't think I've ever heard of a Netgear wireless chipset	02:39
skinux	It's technically a Broadcom	02:42
tgm4883	skinux: I think that proves my point	02:42
rahtgaz	it could even be one made by canonical, if they made them. What you want is to start over. Boot the lice CD, connect your broadcom and install ubuntu making sure you check both online options to download updates as it installs and whatever the other option is on the same screen	02:44
tgm4883	skinux: any wireless where you have to rip apart windows drivers in order to get it to work isn't "well supported"	02:44
rahtgaz	maybe one day they make lice cds. BUt for now I mean live :)	02:44
tgm4883	skinux: in comparison, my intel card works out of the box, that is what I would call "well supported"	02:44
* tgm4883 is back on his desktop now		02:44
Bashing-om	!bcm \| skinux	02:46
ubottu	skinux: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx	02:46
tgm4883	skinux: what laptop is this?	02:47
skinux	I'm talking on a DELL 14.04	02:48
skinux	I'm trying to work with a Compaq Presario DESKTOP with 16.04 just installed a few days ago	02:48
tgm4883	skinux: no, what's the one that what model of compaq	02:48
skinux	Presario...came out with XP...Pentium 4	02:49
tgm4883	skinux: none of that is a model	02:49
skinux	I don't know the model	02:49
skinux	Why does that matter?	02:50
tgm4883	skinux: well I was going to try and help you...	02:50
skinux	I was just asking why that matters.	02:50
skinux	Neither of the wireless things came with the desktop.	02:50
tgm4883	what about the ethernet adapter	02:51
skinux	Cable Ethernet RJ4 or something...didn't work with it, but did with this laptop	02:51
tgm4883	skinux: honestly you probably need more help that I'm able to give atm. I was asking what NIC was in your desktop	02:52
skinux	You mean for the Wirless network card I put in or the USB Wireless adapter?	02:52
tgm4883	skinux: I mean for the wired card.	02:53
skinux	I'll have to shut down the machine and look	02:53
wpayuda82727	JIENNENSE R	02:53
wpayuda82727	F	02:53
wpayuda82727	DF	02:53
wpayuda82727	E	02:53
wpayuda82727	F	02:53
tgm4883	skinux: what's the output of "lspci \| grep -i ethernet"	02:53
skinux	Hold on, I already told it to shut down	02:54
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skinux	Just wondering, why do we need the model for the wired one?	02:55
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tgm4883	skinux: If it was me, I'd probably just buy a $10 ethernet NIC on newegg with the amount of time you've spent on this.	02:55
tgm4883	skinux: it's a desktop. You really want to use wireless on it?	02:55
skinux	Yes, I can't have the cable going across the house all the time.	02:55
tgm4883	skinux: well minimally, we could see if having internet makes this much easier on you	02:56
tgm4883	skinux: you could test the live disk with your wireless cards as well, which was mentioned earlier	02:56
skinux	I just tested live with wireless....same problem there	02:57
Monona	I get this error when trying to load android iso in virtualbox: http://pastebin.com/b7eSKCs4	02:57
tgm4883	ok	02:57
skinux	I would use cable to fix whatever needs fixed for wireless, but it won't get an IP with cable. I tested cable with this laptop and it worked fine. Ubuntu 16.04 just seems to hate me	02:59
cshelldiff	hey guys, im pretty new to linux and i am wondering what functionality distinguishes the C SHELL?	03:00
rose_	123	03:01
rose_	shenmegui?	03:02
george5	Hello	03:02
george5	Hello	03:03
rose_	hello	03:04
george5	I'm just learning irssi	03:04
george5	Is this a good place to ask questions?	03:04
george5	Are there any irssi experts here?	03:05
george5	What is a good way to get a list of channels that I might be interested in?	03:05
Bashing-om	george5: The dedicated irssi channel #irssi .	03:05
george5	Thanks Bashing-om	03:06
RudyValencia	Hi, I'm trying to set up an Xubuntu VM in VMware Workstation and I'm not getting 1920x1080 after installing open-vm-tools. How do I configure X to recognize the 1920x1080 resolution?	03:08
skinux	Would RTL91390 be a recognized NIC?	03:12
skinux	I got it. The NIC was bad, I changed that and now I have internet using cable. So now I need to try to work out wirless USb issue and also install some software.	03:25
Monona	I installed android in virtualbox using this tutorial: http://www.laptopmag.com/articles/create-android-emulator but now android doesn't seem to load.	03:29
jericoag	Hi, all. I'm a total ubuntu newbie. Installed the latest ubuntu on my vostro v131 and not sure what to do next.	03:31
jericoag	for starters, can anyone point me to a good listing of basic commands?	03:31
pimpMyNick	how to kill x server? i want to add a new screen resolution but couldnt achieve as i m unable to kill x server. In earlier versions it was possible, but in 16.04, xserver is still running.	03:33
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pimpMyNick	plz help if u can	03:33
Bashing-om	!manual \| jericoag	03:35
ubottu	jericoag: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/	03:35
Bashing-om	!termimal ! jericoag	03:35
ubottu	Bashing-om: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)	03:35
Bashing-om	!terminal ! jericoag	03:36
ubottu	Bashing-om: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)	03:36
jericoag	thanks ubotto	03:38
OerHeks	https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/ubuntu-help/index.html good start https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal	03:38
RudyValencia	Hi, I'm trying to set up an Xubuntu VM in VMware Workstation and I'm not getting 1920x1080 after installing open-vm-tools. How do I configure X to recognize the 1920x1080 resolution?	03:39
JKB_	Hi All... could u help me with a problem I'm facing after Ubuntu 16.04 installation process?	03:45
pimpMyNick	does ubuntu 16.04 use x server	03:45
pimpMyNick	JKB_, if i could...definitely	03:46
JKB_	Thank you... well I have accept the update suggested by the system	03:46
JKB_	but	03:46
JKB_	I'm not sure if the process got ended and suddenly I'm in "Black Screen" with a prompt blinking	03:47
skinux	tgm4883: Still in here?	03:49
pimpMyNick	never had this kind of problem buddy, so cant tell anything.	03:49
Monona	I'm trying to run android in virtualbox, and I get this error then a black screen: no support for this cpu vendor	03:49
gr1dl0ck	Monona: try #vbox	03:50
Monona	gr1dl0ck: Thx	03:51
tgm4883	skinux: on my phone	03:53
sangi_	hello	04:06
sangi_	is anyone there	04:06
sangi_	?	04:06
sangi_	?	04:06
sangi_	?	04:06
darkerego_	hello	04:11
cfhowlett	your ubuntu question is ... ?	04:12
gowthersgreed	hello	04:20
cfhowlett	your ubuntu question is ... ?	04:20
gowthersgreed	Im wondering is i3 beteer than bpsmw	04:20
gowthersgreed	better	04:20
cfhowlett	i3? bpsmw?	04:20
gowthersgreed	window managers	04:20
cfhowlett	ah!	04:20
gowthersgreed	yes	04:21
cfhowlett	best practice is to use the tool you prefer. "best" is a subjective judgement.	04:21
gowthersgreed	ok thanks	04:21
cfhowlett	happy2help!	04:21
gowthersgreed	Also i was wondering If someone could tell me where to find different IRCs	04:22
cfhowlett	gowthersgreed, you mean ubuntu channels?	04:22
gowthersgreed	I mean how to discover more	04:22
cfhowlett	!alis \| gowthersgreed	04:22
ubottu	gowthersgreed: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" . For more help or questions relating to alis, please join #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu or /msg alis list http	04:22
gowthersgreed	is #freenode a part of ubuntu servers	04:23
gowthersgreed	!alis	04:24
ubottu	alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" . For more help or questions relating to alis, please join #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu or /msg alis list http	04:24
cfhowlett	gowthersgreed, no. freenode is separate from ubuntu	04:24
gowthersgreed	how do I access it?	04:24
cfhowlett	gowthersgreed, imagine I am interested in finding python channels.	04:24
gowthersgreed	yes	04:25
cfhowlett	and there they are	04:25
gowthersgreed	ok?	04:26
cfhowlett	can you see the list above?	04:26
gowthersgreed	what list	04:26
cfhowlett	gowthersgreed, OK, seems that alis returns a privatized output. no worries. do this: /msg alis list #python	04:27
gowthersgreed	I dont see anything	04:28
cfhowlett	if no feedback, you entered it incorrectly.	04:28
cfhowlett	on a new line: /msg alis list #python	04:29
gowthersgreed	sorry but its not working	04:29
gowthersgreed	"/msg alis list #python"	04:30
cfhowlett	paste a picture of your screen	04:30
gowthersgreed	how?	04:30
gowthersgreed	srry	04:30
cfhowlett	use the screenshot tool and paste it to imgur	04:30
cfhowlett	no apology needed. happy2help!	04:30
PenguinMan98	I revoked root access to my ubuntu vps and created a user and now I'm not sure which username I picked. I can't get in.	04:31
PenguinMan98	Options?	04:31
cfhowlett	PenguinMan98, if this was a physical machine, you could boot an ubuntu USB, mount the mystery filesystem and list users. never used a VPS so unsure how to do it. ask #ubuntu-server	04:32
PenguinMan98	ok, thank you!	04:33
cfhowlett	happy2help!	04:33
rexwin_	how to find whether iptables is running or not	04:40
cfhowlett	!iptables	04:41
ubottu	Ubuntu, like any other Linux distribution, has built-in firewall capabilities. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW \| GUI frontends such as gufw and ufw-kde also exist. \| An alternative to ufw is the 'iptables' command - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo	04:41
gowthersgreed	Why can I not see any text?	04:55
gowthersgreed	hello	04:56
gowthersgreed	!alis	04:56
ubottu	alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" . For more help or questions relating to alis, please join #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu or /msg alis list http	04:56
gowthersgreed	!chfowlett	04:56
gunthersgreed	hello	04:57
gowthersgreed	where is the all the text	04:57
gunthersgreed	where is the text	04:57
gunthersgreed	WHy is this happening	04:57
YankDownUnder	gunthersgreed: What appears to be the issue?	04:58
gunthersgreed	I thought it would be really active	04:58
YankDownUnder	gunthersgreed: Quite possibly there are other things to do than break Ubuntu?	04:58
gunthersgreed	lol	04:58
gunthersgreed	do you know any active irc channels	04:59
gunthersgreed	?	04:59
YankDownUnder	gunthersgreed: Hmmm...what about anything related to Windows10?	04:59
gunthersgreed	anything is fine really	04:59
gunthersgreed	hello	05:00
gunthersgreed	?	05:00
YankDownUnder	gunthersgreed: There's always the ##linux channel...	05:00
gunthersgreed	ok thanks	05:00
gunthersgreed	I was wondering how do i get /whois to work	05:01
YankDownUnder	gunthersgreed: Have you read the IRC support stuff on Freenode yet? Or Googled for IRC commands and meanings?	05:01
gunthersgreed	yes Im just very confused	05:02
YankDownUnder	gunthersgreed: Right oh - so you're half-way there!	05:03
cfhowlett	choose one problem and focus on that	05:03
gunthersgreed	ok	05:03
gunthersgreed	sorry for being naive	05:03
YankDownUnder	gunthersgreed: We've all been there, hmm. All good.	05:04
gunthersgreed	im getting ##linux can not connect to channel	05:05
cfhowlett	!register \| gunthersgreed	05:05
ubottu	gunthersgreed: Information about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode	05:05
YankDownUnder	gunthersgreed: Are you registered? If not, you should...	05:05
gunthersgreed	Oh so some channels require registered users?	05:06
YankDownUnder	gunthersgreed: Ja.	05:06
gunthersgreed	I see	05:06
gunthersgreed	I thought IRC channels would be really active	05:06
YankDownUnder	gunthersgreed: Depends on the day, the time, the location.	05:07
gunthersgreed	like what a twitch stream has	05:07
cfhowlett	gunthersgreed, there are THOUSANDS of irc channels. they can't all be a party	05:07
gunthersgreed	why is your nick in red	05:07
YankDownUnder	OMG - they're not all a party? ;)	05:07
cfhowlett	because your IRC program thinks Im special	05:07
gunthersgreed	you are ;0	05:07
YankDownUnder	gunthersgreed: He gets ice cream and we don't.	05:08
gunthersgreed	yank even yours is red	05:08
YankDownUnder	gunthersgreed: OMG! That means I get ice cream! Wow!	05:08
gunthersgreed	maybe it is because you are registered	05:09
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YankDownUnder	gunthersgreed: That's what they told me at the mental institution.	05:09
gunthersgreed	We got to beleive them right?	05:09
YankDownUnder	Yes. Veritably.	05:09
gowthersgreed	why are people just joining and disconnecting	05:10
cfhowlett	!manual \| gunthersgreed basic reading suggestion	05:10
ubottu	gunthersgreed basic reading suggestion: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/	05:10
cfhowlett	gowthersgreed, focus. what is YOUR issue?	05:10
gunthersgreed	I just want a seamless linux experience	05:10
cfhowlett	gunthersgreed, don't we all.	05:11
gowthersgreed	life goals	05:11
cfhowlett	gunthersgreed, but it will NOT be any more seemless than OSX or windows so ...	05:11
pimpMyNick	can anyone help me regarding xserver...I want xorg.conf file but get error no devices to configure	05:11
gowthersgreed	!manual	05:12
ubottu	The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/	05:12
cfhowlett	gowthersgreed, pro-tip: privatize your messages to ubottu like this: /msg ubottu !manual	05:15
admin-mate	oi	05:23
admin-mate	Alguém por aí?	05:23
cfhowlett	!br \| admin	05:24
ubottu	admin: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br " sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigada.	05:24
CryptoSiD	I'm trying to install ubuntu desktop 16.04 and create a RAID 1 but I can'T find the option to create the raid1	05:24
CryptoSiD	am i blind?	05:24
cfhowlett	!raid \| CryptoSiD	05:24
ubottu	CryptoSiD: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto	05:24
CryptoSiD	https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID i was reading this, but i can't seems to find those options	05:25
CryptoSiD	the interface isnt the same	05:25
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CryptoSiD	and its for ubuntu server not ubuntu desktop	05:25
CryptoSiD	thats why the interface isnt the same	05:25
cfhowlett	!server \| CryptoSiD	05:25
ubottu	CryptoSiD: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is !Xenial (Xenial Xerus 16.04.1) - More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition - Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide - Support in #ubuntu-server	05:25
CryptoSiD	as i said, ubuntu desktop not ubuntu server.	05:26
CryptoSiD	i want to install using ubuntu desktop dvd, and create a raid1	05:26
CryptoSiD	is that possible?	05:26
ryein	how should i install the AMDGPU-Pro driver?	05:26
ryein	a ppa exist yet?	05:26
cfhowlett	CryptoSiD, I don't do raids, but I believe you're trying a standard operation. server or desktop, the underlying method is the same.	05:27
CryptoSiD	i cant see the option in desktop ubuntu installation, thats the issue	05:28
YankDownUnder	Would that not fall under the topic of partitioning?	05:28
CryptoSiD	in "use as" i dont see anything related to raid	05:30
CryptoSiD	what is wrong with ubuntu desktop installer	05:30
cfhowlett	CryptoSiD, I see the issue now. the wiki specifies use of the alternate installer which is no longer in service. you could use the server .iso and then add the ubuntu desktop packages	05:30
CryptoSiD	i dont have a usb key and no more blank DVD, i have to do this using ubuntu desktop 16.04 dvd	05:31
CryptoSiD	i just burned it.	05:31
OerHeks	step 3 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID#Configuring_the_RAID	05:31
CryptoSiD	OerHeks its for ubuntu server, not ubuntu desktop	05:32
CryptoSiD	the installation interface is different in ubuntu desktop	05:32
OerHeks	but you don't put /boot on softwareraid AFAIK, always the server on a seperate partition	05:33
CryptoSiD	all i see is a menu to create partition, with no option to create raid, and "install now" once i created my partitions	05:33
CryptoSiD	all i need is the method to create raid1 using ubuntu desktop installer	05:33
CryptoSiD	not ubuntu SERVER	05:33
cfhowlett	CryptoSiD, yes, we get it. calm down.	05:34
doofamash	ryein i have no idea about a ppa for amdgpu-pro drivers but you can install it from a .tar file	05:34
CryptoSiD	everywhere im reading, they say to install using ubuntu server than apt install ubuntu-desktop	05:35
CryptoSiD	whats wrong?	05:35
cfhowlett	CryptoSiD, what's wrong is that the solution to your request is given, you just don't like it.	05:35
guzzlefry	Does anyone know how to force a monitor to wake up? It's asleep in X, but when I CTRL+ALT+1 I can at least get a terminal.	05:35
CryptoSiD	as i said, i dont have a usb key under hand right now, and no more blank DVD	05:36
CryptoSiD	so imust be able to create a raid 1 using the desktop installer	05:36
CryptoSiD	else im mad	05:36
cfhowlett	CryptoSiD, your choice is 1. be angry or 2. go get a usb. (they are cheap, you know.(	05:36
doofamash	guzzlefty, restart your diaplaymanager service	05:37
guzzlefry	Can't he set up the RAID using the "Try Ubuntu" liveDVD?	05:37
CryptoSiD	its 2 am here, i doubt i can get usb key or blank DVD at this time	05:37
guzzlefry	CryptoSiD: U.S. or elsewhere?	05:37
cfhowlett	CryptoSiD, or you could use the command line --- ALSO from the wiki page. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID#Using_the_mdadm_CLI	05:37
OerHeks	maye this page is any help, howto use the live iso to make raid http://askubuntu.com/questions/505446/how-to-install-ubuntu-14-04-with-raid-1-using-desktop-installer	05:38
CryptoSiD	how come the options to create raid 1 isnt in the desktop installer?	05:38
CryptoSiD	wtf is wrong with the desktop cd/dvd	05:38
OerHeks	should work for 16.04 too	05:38
cfhowlett	guzzlefry, the desktop installer does not include raid, thus the repeated suggestion to use the server installer then add the desktop packages	05:38
cfhowlett	CryptoSiD, nothing is wrong. you have been given no fewer than 2 methods. choose 1.	05:39
CryptoSiD	i used to like ubuntu, but now i dont	05:39
CryptoSiD	its very stupid to not offer the option to create a raid1 in the desktop installation	05:39
cfhowlett	CryptoSiD, your machine, your choice. by the way: method 3. https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/advanced-installation.html	05:39
CryptoSiD	method 3 use ubuntu server	05:40
CryptoSiD	not ubuntu desktop	05:40
cfhowlett	CryptoSiD, it uses the command line. works perfectly on the desktop.	05:40
OerHeks	wait, you don't have a desktop iso ??	05:40
guzzlefry	What about hardware raid?	05:40
OerHeks	:-D	05:40
CryptoSiD	i have a desktop iso.	05:40
CryptoSiD	which seems to be the problem	05:40
OerHeks	no, not in live mode, you can instal mdam	05:41
guzzlefry	cfhowlett: I see no service named that under `sudo service --status-all`	05:41
CryptoSiD	im in live mode	05:41
OerHeks	maye this page is any help, howto use the live iso to make raid http://askubuntu.com/questions/505446/how-to-install-ubuntu-14-04-with-raid-1-using-desktop-installer	05:41
CryptoSiD	but once i open the "install ubuntu 16.04" and try to create a raid1	05:41
CryptoSiD	i have no option for it	05:41
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rajivmars	I have installed ubuntu 16.04. during boot, the ubuntu logo has not shown. why the ubuntu logo has shown during boot?	05:42
cfhowlett	guzzlefry, I'm on xubuntu desktop. comes right up for me. don't know what to tell yu.	05:42
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CryptoSiD	so. centos is officialy better than ubuntu	05:42
CryptoSiD	sad but true	05:42
CryptoSiD	centos offer the option to create a raid 1	05:42
OerHeks	CryptoSiD, read --> live mode, not install mode	05:42
guzzlefry	cfhowlett: The issue is that the monitor is off in X :P	05:42
guzzlefry	Going to try unplugging it and plugging it back in, and then proceed to feel dumb if it works. :)	05:43
cfhowlett	guzzlefry, your issue is outside my area. sorry.	05:43
guzzlefry	no problem, thanks for trying	05:44
CryptoSiD	i dont have internet on this comp so i cant use apt	05:44
CryptoSiD	the option to create a raid1 during the installation should be there	05:44
OerHeks	oh i ignore this troll	05:44
CryptoSiD	its totaly stupid that its not there, using the ubuntu desktop cd	05:45
CryptoSiD	im not trolling.	05:45
cfhowlett	CryptoSiD, you are. stop or leave.	05:45
CryptoSiD	no im not trolling im just complaning about the stupid fact that we cant create a raid 1 using the destop cd/dvd	05:45
CryptoSiD	it should be there	05:45
cfhowlett	CryptoSiD, it's not. move on to solutions. now.	05:46
CryptoSiD	its not but it should be there, should be aded asap	05:46
CryptoSiD	priority.	05:46
cfhowlett	and this is the solutions channel. NOT the complaing channel.	05:46
guzzlefry	for the 1% of desktop users who actually use RAID?...	05:46
CryptoSiD	where is the complaining channel then	05:46
cfhowlett	CryptoSiD, #ubuntu-offtopic	05:46
CryptoSiD	who care about the %, having the option is a must	05:47
CryptoSiD	its far from beeing offtopic	05:47
cfhowlett	CryptoSiD, wrong channel.	05:47
CryptoSiD	wrong channel to complain about ubuntu lack of option in the desktop cd/dvd?	05:47
CryptoSiD	cmon	05:47
CryptoSiD	its the right channel	05:47
doofamash	guzzlefry, might this page be of help? http://www.shallowsky.com/linux/x-screen-blanking.html	05:47
cfhowlett	trolling is not welcome here. you asked "how". we told you. You don't like the options. fine. use something else. but take your complaints elsewhere. this is not the place.	05:48
CryptoSiD	I will sure contact ubuntu to complain about that	05:48
CryptoSiD	im not trolling	05:48
cfhowlett	please do.	05:48
guzzlefry	Patches are welcome. :P	05:48
cfhowlett	!but \| CryptoSiD	05:49
cfhowlett	!bug	05:49
ubottu	If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please report it using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.	05:49
YankDownUnder	Amazingly, this - and most other Ubuntu (or other) support channels are manned by VOLUNTEERS that are merely users themselves...complaints are, well, literally a waste of energy and time - for all involved.	05:49
swift110-phone	hey	05:52
cfhowlett	swift110-phone, your ubuntu questions??	05:53
swift110-phone	have y	05:53
swift110-phone	have you had any problems with 16.04	05:53
cfhowlett	swift110-phone, please do not ask "has anyone ..." questions. state YOUR issues and YOUR details	05:54
CryptoSiD	cfhowlett its not a bug its a missing option that should be there.	05:54
CryptoSiD	whatever ill find a way to report it	05:54
CryptoSiD	since its super stupid that this option isnt there	05:54
cfhowlett	enough	05:55
CryptoSiD	if its enough then dont bring it back	05:55
cfhowlett	CryptoSiD, actually, I can do you one better ... welcome to /ignored	05:55
CryptoSiD	great	05:56
stevwills	going to install arch linux tonight	05:58
stevwills	any advice	05:59
cfhowlett	stevwills, nothing to do with ubuntu. please proceed to arch for support	05:59
OerHeks	wrong channel stevwills	05:59
stevwills	ubuntu is good and stable	05:59
CryptoSiD	this guy must be a troll!	05:59
CryptoSiD	:D	05:59
stevwills	nope	05:59
OerHeks	advise: read first, before you start.	05:59
stevwills	i like ubuntu	05:59
cfhowlett	stevwills, ask your UBUNTU suppport questions here	06:00
stevwills	haha good advice OerHeks	06:00
CryptoSiD	i used to like ubuntu, till i got dissapointed by the desktop installer	06:00
CryptoSiD	:)	06:00
stevwills	whats wrong with the installer	06:00
OerHeks	he has no internet, stevwills. sad.	06:01
CryptoSiD	the desktop installer don't offer the option to create raid1	06:01
CryptoSiD	thats the huge issue	06:01
stevwills	DerHeks i have all the internet i nedd	06:01
stevwills	need	06:01
CryptoSiD	internetzzzzzzzz	06:02
stevwills	what you cant create raids in ubuntu, thats a wierd one	06:02
YankDownUnder	CryptoSiD: The team that "thought up" the installation process would have considered that - and obviously the decision to include it was outweighed.	06:02
CryptoSiD	well they havent asked me about that:P	06:03
CryptoSiD	i mean, between having the option or not, its better to have it	06:03
YankDownUnder	CryptoSiD: Because your ego is not as huge as theirs.	06:03
stevwills	not allowing raid was a huge fuck entreprises	06:03
YankDownUnder	CryptoSiD: I'm sure a nice email to the Dev team explaining your situation would bring some type of recompense.	06:03
CryptoSiD	i want 1 million dollar	06:04
stevwills	well is there any other linux distro that dosn't allow raids?	06:04
YankDownUnder	Option: install the server version, create the RAID1, install desktop afterwards. Easy done.	06:04
stevwills	maybe he wants a raid 12 XD	06:05
OerHeks	YankDownUnder, it can be done from live mode.. but mister does not have internet.	06:05
YankDownUnder	OerHeks: Yersh...this I read earlier.	06:05
CryptoSiD	it should be possible to do it with the desktop cd	06:05
OerHeks	nor usb or empty media	06:05
CryptoSiD	its my humnle opinion	06:05
CryptoSiD	i found a blank DVD in fact, i will install it using the ubuntu server dvd	06:05
stevwills	what is the best linux Distro?	06:05
YankDownUnder	I've just checked my cup - it's nearly empty. That being my "cup of care".	06:06
OerHeks	wrong channel for polling stevwills	06:06
stevwills	im not polling i'm starting a conversation XD	06:06
stevwills	aren't irc channels here for that ?	06:06
OerHeks	not this channel, ubuntu support only.	06:07
OerHeks	!ot	06:07
ubottu	#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!	06:07
guzzlefry	So before I just nuke my X session, does anyone know how to unblank a monitor in X, without actually having access to the terminal X is running in?	06:07
stevwills	startx	06:07
OerHeks	guzzlefry, no, you have to run back to work	06:08
stevwills	best ubuntu youtube video ever!!!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Qj8p-PEwbI	06:08
stevwills	whois stevwills	06:09
cfhowlett	stevwills, this is the support channel. take chitchat to #ubuntu-offtopi	06:09
stevwills	!whois	06:09
cfhowlett	stevwills, this is the support channel. take chitchat to #ubuntu-offtopic	06:09
stevwills	what is the connect command again to connectr to #ubuntu-offtopic	06:11
cfhowlett	stevwills, should be /join #channel_name_here	06:11
stevwills	thx	06:11
cfhowlett	happy2help!	06:12
guzzlefry	Is turning everything off in the XFCE Power Manager enough to ensure that the monitor never turns itself off again?	06:14
cfhowlett	guzzlefry, might need to ask #xfce or #xubuntu	06:16
guzzlefry	roger that	06:17
Zipf	Had to click on Pancakes to get here, now I'm hungry. How's everyone doing tonight?	06:26
cfhowlett	Zipf, your ubuntu support question is ... ?	06:27
Zipf	Had a question about Nvidia drivers. Moving from windows 10 to ubuntu.	06:28
rajivmars	how to remove the "amazon app" from ubuntu 16.04?	06:43
jatt	amazon app?	06:46
Rust3dCor3	How to report a bug that is not aplication related? apport says that it cant sent request because its not an app from repos. I was using debian 8 and switched to 16.04. the game is adom. On debian 8 it was all ok but on ubuntu is consuming most of the cpu	06:47
rajivmars	jatt: yes. the Amazon app, which comes bydefault with ubuntu.	06:47
jatt	there is no amazon app in ubuntu	06:48
Rust3dCor3	software-center?	06:48
jatt	what?	06:48
Rust3dCor3	neither i have knowlage what about rajivmars is talkinga about	06:49
jatt	amazon has apps for android but not for ubuntu	06:49
quest9	hi	06:50
rajivmars	Rust3dCor3: open Dash, then search for "amazon". then you understand.	06:50
Rust3dCor3	dash: 1: amazon: not found	06:51
Rust3dCor3	rajivmars: I use xfce	06:52
rajivmars	Rust3dCor3: are you using ubuntu 16.04?	06:52
Rust3dCor3	rajivmars: yes. i remember on 14.04 that there was an option to remove such stuff as advertisments. mmaybe ability to disable that amazon app is in the similar menu	06:53
Rust3dCor3	rajivmars: but where you should look i dont know	06:53
Rust3dCor3	rajivamars: http://www.howtogeek.com/126995/how-to-disable-the-amazon-search-ads-in-ubuntus-unity-dash/	06:54
rajivmars	Rust3dCor3: I have disable it already. now i want to remove it from the computer. do you have any idea how to do it?	06:55
Rust3dCor3	rajivmars: probably the only thing that unity-lens-shopping is doing is to download ad data on your pc and show you ads. by uninstalling it it should be ok	06:56
rajivmars	How do i uninstall it?	06:57
Rust3dCor3	in terminal "sudo apt-get remove unity-lens-shopping" whitout quotes	06:57
Rust3dCor3	or in software center search and remove unity-lens-shopping	06:58
Rust3dCor3	and right click on the amazon launcher app and click unlock from launcher	06:58
rajivmars	Rust3dCor3: Ok.Thank you:)	06:58
Rust3dCor3	then restart system	06:58
rajivmars	Rust3dCor3: fine.	07:00
anarhist_	hi, hp printer/scanner no longer works after i have upgraded to 16.04 when trying to rerun hp-setup i get: ""error: hp-setup requires GUI support (try running with --qt3). Also, try using interactive (-i) mode.	07:05
bobby-barker	sup	07:40
bobby-barker	my negros	07:40
pennTeller	hi guys can anybody recommend a tool to format a hard drive in ubuntu 16.04?	07:45
epstin3	disk utility?	07:47
epstin3	ubuntu mate 16.04 best icon themes?	07:50
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swift110-phone	lol	08:07
pimpMyNick	when i write some command in gnomerc file, it breaks session. Any ideas?	08:09
pimpMyNick	m i writing wrong syntax?	08:09
pimpMyNick	or some other cause	08:09
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Ujjwal	hey	08:14
zena	hi	08:15
Ujjwal	how to run two commands in a sequence	08:16
zena	add &&	08:16
Seveas	or ; if the exit status of the first doesn't matter	08:17
zena	like sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade	08:18
Ujjwal	And what does just & do?	08:18
Seveas	launch the first command in the background	08:19
Seveas	so they'll both run at the same time	08:19
zena	just one "&" doesn't work	08:20
Ujjwal	but i want them to run one after another	08:20
Ujjwal	ok	08:20
Seveas	zena: it does work, but does something different :)	08:20
Seveas	try: sleep 5 & ls	08:21
zena	oh, ok, must be latest command. i'm not sure, never try	08:22
Ujjwal	allright lemme try && thanks	08:23
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happyBoy	I just made an upgrade from ubuntu 14.10 to ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS	08:50
happyBoy	was my choice ok	08:50
cfhowlett	happyBoy, how would we know the answer to that? why would you expect us to know?	08:51
happyBoy	cfhowlett: what I meant was ubuntu 16.04 better than 14.10	08:52
cfhowlett	yes	08:52
mhg	hi i can't mount my hard disk. why? An error occurred while accessing 'segate', the system responded: The requested operation has failed: Error mounting /dev/sdc1 at /media/mhg/segate: Command-line `mount -t "ntfs" -o "uhelper=udisks2,nodev,nosuid,uid=1000,gid=1000" "/dev/sdc1" "/media/mhg/segate"' exited with non-zero exit status 13: $MFTMirr does not match $MFT	08:52
ikonia	14.10 is end of life	08:52
ikonia	so totally dead and not supported	08:52
happyBoy	ok	08:52
happyBoy	can you explain what happens when an old ubuntu is no longer supported	08:53
ikonia	happyBoy: nothing	08:53
ikonia	you don't get support, it doesn't get updates	08:53
ikonia	thats it	08:53
happyBoy	ok	08:53
cfhowlett	happyBoy, "it's dead, Jim"	08:53
happyBoy	but if you are using that old version as a server then certainly not upgrading is suicide then	08:54
ikonia	no	08:54
ikonia	not at all	08:54
ikonia	it's exactly what I said "you don't get support, it doesn't get updates"	08:54
ikonia	it's up to you to work it out	08:54
cfhowlett	happyBoy, LTS is standard on many servers.	08:54
happyBoy	cfhowlett: then if you have no support and no upgrades then your ubuntu server may not be at all that safe if security issues are concerned since no more updates are given	08:55
cfhowlett	!lts \| happyBoy,	08:56
ubottu	happyBoy,: LTS means Long Term Support. Until 12.04 LTS versions of Ubuntu were supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server; since 12.04 (Precise Pangolin) LTS versions will be supported for 5 years on the desktop and server. The latest LTS version of Ubuntu is !Xenial (Xenial Xerus 16.04.1)	08:56
mhg	any idea? please help me.	09:05
cfhowlett	!ask \| mhg,	09:05
ubottu	mhg,: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience	09:05
guzzlefry	mhg: Possibly a typo? You have segate instead of seagate.	09:05
OerHeks	MFTMirr does not match ..	09:06
OerHeks	read the read of the error mhg ..	09:06
OerHeks	see the message: "NTFS is either inconsistent, or there is a hardware fault, or it's a SoftRAID/FakeRAID hardware. In the first case run chkdsk /f on Windows then reboot into Windows twice." Windows problems you fix with windows tools. ??	09:06
Theory	I am needing a .iso burner for linux...what to use...	09:06
ikonia	braseo	09:06
Theory	i have lubuntu now..	09:06
andreozzi	hi	09:06
mhg	guzzlefry: i think the partition is segate and the hardware is seagate.	09:07
cfhowlett	Theory, brasero	09:07
andreas_	hi	09:07
andreas_	hi	09:07
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cfhowlett	your ubuntu questions, andreas_ ?	09:08
Theory	ok	09:08
OerHeks	mhg, sudo ntfsfix /dev/sdc1 # this might work, but i would do it on windows	09:08
Guest13000	ok	09:08
mhg	OerHeks: Thanks. it works	09:09
adroit_machine	I am unable to install softwares, need help please	09:11
OerHeks	ask you real question and find out, adroit_machine	09:14
cfhowlett	!details \| adroit_machine	09:14
ubottu	adroit_machine: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel.	09:14
adroit_machine	OerHeks: I'm unable to install softwares, due to broken packages, sudo apt-get -f install wouldn't resolve them	09:14
adroit_machine	here's the output on pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/21123348/	09:15
OerHeks	yes, that was from days ago, with that libsqlite3-0:i386 hickup ?	09:17
adroit_machine	yes, OerHeks	09:17
adroit_machine	K1L told me to install wine so I did, but it produced the broken dependencies	09:19
ikonia	did you install it from the ubuntu repos	09:19
ikonia	or the PPA	09:19
sevenup__	xD	09:19
adroit_machine	ikonia: I installed it from ubuntu repos	09:19
adroit_machine	ikonia: from synaptic	09:20
ikonia	adroit_machine: then it doesn't create broken dependencies	09:20
ikonia	the version in the ubuntu repos matches dependencies just fine	09:20
Viking667	I'm having some issues playing a DVD under 16.04 with VLC, yet smplayer and "Videos" application both work.	09:20
sevenup__	Broken dependencies is not because of you installing wine	09:20
adroit_machine	ikonia: but it did, I'm surprised myself	09:20
ikonia	adroit_machine: seems unlikley	09:20
ikonia	adroit_machine: what dependencies are failing and against what package	09:20
Viking667	Do I hop skip and leap on my way over to VLC's support (hah) or is there something I can do about it here? Some videos come up all green and blotchy.	09:21
adroit_machine	ikonia: here's the output of apt-get -f install: http://paste.ubuntu.com/21123348/	09:21
sevenup__	probably you already had them	09:21
adroit_machine	sevenup__: no if I already had them then synaptic wouldn't install wine	09:21
sevenup__	you're wrong, that's all	09:22
sevenup__	I mean ... your assumption	09:22
ikonia	so the problem is not wine then	09:22
ikonia	libsqlite3-0:i386	09:22
ikonia	that is your problem	09:22
ikonia	adroit_machine: of course it would	09:22
OerHeks	Unpacking libsqlite3-0:i386 (3.8.2-1ubuntu2.1) over (3.8.2-1ubuntu2) .. the docs seem to bite yes	09:22
ikonia	adroit_machine: if wine didn't need those depednecnies	09:22
OerHeks	and there was a solution given, adroit_machine ?	09:22
adroit_machine	no there was no solution given, OerHeks	09:22
adroit_machine	I tried everything I can to resolve it, ikonia	09:23
* OerHeks recalls some change command for that doc..		09:23
ikonia	adroit_machine: what have you tried	09:23
adroit_machine	i have filtered the broken packages in synaptic and then I have tried apt-get -f install, and also I have tried to puge the sqllite package, ikonia	09:24
sevenup__	that's the consequence of your modified sources, some packaged installed previously from another way different than official repos	09:24
ikonia	yes, it would appear so	09:24
ikonia	adroit_machine: have you used PPA's in the past ?	09:24
adroit_machine	no I did not use PPA, ikonia	09:24
ikonia	adroit_machine: ok - so if you do "dpkg -l \| grep libsqlite3" can you put the output of that in a pastebin please	09:25
adroit_machine	ok, ikonia	09:25
ikonia	it could be as simple as the 64bit version	09:25
ikonia	not sure what's using the 32bit version though	09:26
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adroit_machine	ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/21618092/	09:26
ikonia	could very well be a multilib fail then	09:27
ikonia	multilib - another failure	09:27
ikonia	try removing the 32bit version of sqlite	09:27
ikonia	(the package)	09:27
ikonia	see what's using it	09:27
ikonia	(it will complain if other things are using it)	09:28
adroit_machine	ikonia: it removes several dependent packages too	09:28
ikonia	are you using any of them ?	09:28
adroit_machine	yes, wine needs sqllite packages and several dependencies, ikonia	09:29
ikonia	so I'd log a bug against libsqlite3-0 saying the multi-lib 32bit version conflicts with the 64bit version in the file manifest	09:29
ikonia	as a very dirty hack you could try to move /usr/share/doc/libsqlite3-0/changelog.Debian.gz out of the way	09:30
ikonia	and see if it will then overrite it	09:30
ikonia	but this is very messy and not a good solution	09:30
ikonia	but no-one will fix that file conflict quickly	09:30
tn	hey guys	09:30
adroit_machine	I would not do that then if it breaks my system, ikonia	09:30
ikonia	adroit_machine: it doesn't break your system	09:31
ikonia	it moves a file that is a compressed change log out of the way	09:31
tn	what do i put into my ~/.xinitrc file to automatically run the Unity Desktop when executing startx?	09:31
timblechmann	hi all: i'm trying to figure out what's the reason for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/git/+bug/1574213: gitk/git gui don't launch correctly.	09:31
ubottu	Launchpad bug 1574213 in git (Ubuntu) "git gui and gitk broken after upgrade to 16.04" [Undecided,Confirmed]	09:31
adroit_machine	how do I move us/sharedoc./libsqlite3-0changelogDebiangz out of the way	09:32
timblechmann	they start up nicely after reinstalling tk8.6, though	09:32
timblechmann	but i cannot really re-install tk8.6 after every reboot	09:32
adroit_machine	ikonia^	09:32
timblechmann	any idea?	09:32
ikonia	adroit_machine: /usr/share/doc/libsqlite3-0/changelog.Debian.gz	09:32
ikonia	that is the file	09:32
ikonia	be very clear with that - /usr/share/doc/libsqlite3-0/changelog.Debian.gz is the file	09:33
adroit_machine	where I move that file, ikonia	09:33
ikonia	anywhere you want	09:33
ikonia	just out of the way	09:33
adroit_machine	ikonia: I don't know the commad line way. Should I open a sudo dolphin and do that	09:34
ikonia	move it however you are comfortble	09:35
adroit_machine	ok, ikonia	09:36
Geom	hi... trying	09:36
Geom	hi. trying ubuntu server for the first time... what version do you recommend for a P4 machine?	09:37
ikonia	depends what you are expecting to do	09:38
ikonia	the latest stable LTS is always the sane option	09:38
Geom	jusr ssh and smb	09:38
ikonia	latest LTS	09:38
Geom	latest would run even on P4¿	09:38
ikonia	depends on the requirements	09:38
ikonia	there is more than cpu	09:38
ikonia	but I should imagine you'll be fine,	09:39
Geom	just 1gb ram... just for testing though	09:39
ikonia	should be fine	09:39
Geom	Great. Thanks!	09:39
adroit_machine	ikonia: I moved the sqlite3-0changelog Debian.gz, what do I do now	09:40
ikonia	re-run your install command that was broken	09:40
ikonia	see if it can write to where that change log file was	09:40
adroit_machine	ikonia: sudo apt-get -f install, right?	09:40
ikonia	yes	09:41
adroit_machine	ikonia: I did sudo apt-get -f install but it is still not resolving the dependencies	09:42
ikonia	pastebin the output	09:42
ikonia	and please stop saying it's not resolving dependencies - it is resolving dependencies just fine	09:42
adroit_machine	ikonia: sorry I dont know the other word for it	09:43
adroit_machine	ikonia: heres the output of sudo apt-get -f install: http://paste.ubuntu.com/21619108/	09:43
ikonia	adroit_machine: o - so apply logic	09:44
ikonia	adroit_machine: look at the old problem - it was conflicting about a file, you moved that file out of the way, it's moved forward and complaining about another file	09:44
ikonia	what do you think the next step is	09:44
adroit_machine	remove the other files too, right ikonia?	09:44
adroit_machine	sorry move*	09:44
ikonia	adroit_machine: yes,	09:45
ikonia	it's just text file with a copyright notice in, so it won't do harm	09:45
ikonia	and again log another bug against this package,	09:45
ikonia	that it the 32bit conflicts with the 64bit file manifest	09:45
adroit_machine	ikonia: sorry, but which file do I move now, I can't seem to understand the log	09:47
ikonia	adroit_machine: trying to overwrite shared '/usr/share/doc/liblcms2-2/copyright', which is different from other instances of package liblcms2-2:i386	09:47
adroit_machine	ah ok, liblcms2-2, ikonia	09:47
ikonia	no	09:48
ikonia	/usr/share/doc/liblcms2-2/copyright	09:48
ikonia	the copyright file	09:48
adroit_machine	ok, ikonia	09:48
riz0n	Hello friends. I have a 14.04 that I just upgraded to 16.04 with the do upgrade command. It says it completed with errors, however when I try to reboot the system now, it says that reboot command was not found. How can I get this system to restart?	09:49
adroit_machine	ikonia: thanks a lot, sudo apt-get -f install is working fine now	09:52
Patrick_	I would like to install Ubuntu 16.04 on my Windows machine	09:52
icomsium	spyhackerz	09:53
Patrick_	Can anyone please help me with how to make a bootable installation drive using a partition of my harddrive (my usb stick is not being recognized)	09:53
icomsium	türk olan varmı	09:53
k_	?	09:54
k_	hello?	09:54
riz0n	hi	09:54
k_	What's is?	09:55
k_	What's this?	09:55
riz0n	This is called IRC	09:55
k_	这样呀	09:56
riz0n	Sorry I only speak english	09:56
k_	你哪噶的？	09:56
k_	O	09:56
k_	Amerial?	09:57
riz0n	Yes	09:57
riz0n	I guess.	09:58
k_	Do u offen play that?	09:59
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riz0n	Play what, k_?	10:01
k_	IRC	10:02
riz0n	I used to live on IRC, but not much any more.	10:02
k_	Which system do you use?	10:02
riz0n	Well, obviously I use freenod3e	10:03
riz0n	Oops, I mean freenode	10:03
bazhang	!ot \| riz0n k_	10:03
ubottu	riz0n k_: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!	10:03
riz0n	Yeah I am just here for support. I think k_ is lost.	10:03
mac__	Virtualbox 5.0.10 on ubuntu 14.04 , guest windows 7 with NAT but the vbox network adapter not listed using ifconfig -a from ubuntu	10:04
k_	I used it on Ubuntu mate	10:06
k_	Just my english isn't fluent	10:08
riz0n	Mine either, k_	10:10
longcat_	hi bitch	10:13
cfhowlett	longcat_, wrong channel.	10:14
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tarator	Does anybody of you guys use the Akonadi feature of using tags for files (in Dolphin)? After an upgrade (Kubuntu 15.10 -> 16.04) all my file-tags are lost. This raises the question: What is this feature for? For wasting time?	10:35
mac___	VirtualBox installed On Ubuntu 14.04 , i run the command ifconfig -a but does not list the vbox network adapter details ?	10:37
mac___	VirtualBox installed On Ubuntu 14.04 , i run the command ifconfig -a but it does not list the vbox network adapter details and the installed windows 7 guest has no ip address(NAT Config))	10:39
cfhowlett	mac___, osx host, ubuntu 16.04 guest: http://termbin.com/vlc7	10:39
mac___	VirtualBox installed On Ubuntu 14.04 , i run the command ifconfig -a but it does not list the vbox network adapter details and the installed windows 7 guest has no ip address(NAT Config))	10:40
mac___	VirtualBox installed On Ubuntu 14.04 , i run the command ifconfig -a but it does not list the vbox network adapter details and the installed windows 7 guest has no ip address(NAT Config))	10:40
cfhowlett	mac___, stop it	10:41
cfhowlett	your question was seen. be patient	10:41
cfhowlett	!patience	10:41
ubottu	Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/	10:41
bekks	mac___: Pastebin ifconfig -a from your guest pleaser, along with "VBoxManage showvminfo ..." from your host.	10:43
Enny	Hello	10:44
rincewind666	Hi	10:44
Enny	how are you	10:44
cfhowlett	Enny, your ubuntu questions, please?	10:44
Enny	does ubuntu mean love for one another?	10:45
cfhowlett	Enny, ? easily answered via google or a dictionary. do you have ubuntu OS questions?	10:45
Enny	can i not come here?	10:45
cariveri	I heard it just means "for everyone"	10:45
Enny	wh you forcing me to question you	10:46
cfhowlett	Enny, please read and heed the topic	10:46
Enny	You didnt even introduce me to the channel yet	10:46
ducasse	!ot \| Enny	10:46
ubottu	Enny: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!	10:46
cfhowlett	Enny, this is not a social channel. chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic	10:46
Enny	And this is a free worls	10:46
Enny	World	10:46
happyBoy	cfhowlett: I just tried to run my local server by typing localhost on my browser it says file not found	10:48
happyBoy	I just upgraded my ubuntu into 16.04	10:48
happyBoy	anything that I have done something wrong	10:48
cfhowlett	happyBoy, sad to hear it. sorry, but that issue is outside my (limited) knowledge base. ask the channel in general or #ubuntu-server	10:49
happyBoy	cfhowlett: ok thanks	10:49
adroit_machine_	usr/share/doc/liblcms2-2/copyright', which is different from other instances of package liblcms2-2:i386	10:49
adroit_machine_	Errors were encountered while processing:	10:49
adroit_machine_	/var/cache/apt/archives/liblcms2-2_2.6-3ubuntu1~trusty1_i386.deb	10:49
k1l	adroit_machine_: tell the ppa you use, that their packages are rubbish and that they need to fix thos depencies	10:53
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mac___	bekks: http://pastebin.com/0WCPmhfT --- http://pastebin.com/rxfepEUv	11:02
tykayn	hey folks	11:03
SchrodingersScat	oh howdy	11:03
bekks	mac___: Both outputs arent what I requested. Or why do you have a wlan interface in your guest?	11:03
adroit_machine__	k1l: the problem is resolved now, i wasn't using any ppa's, i told ikonia	11:05
mac___	bekks: my main os is ubuntu 14.04 with virtualbox installed the guest os is centos 7 netinstall	11:05
tykayn	is it possible to have a recent linux distribution running on a 700 mb cd ?	11:06
brenda	Hi, I am running a beta. I wonder, do I need to reinstall when the final rel. is available?	11:06
tykayn	all i find needs dvd	11:06
cfhowlett	tykayn, ubuntu core would fit	11:06
cfhowlett	!core	11:06
bekks	mac___: So pastebin VBoxManage showvminfo ... from the HOST and ifconfig -a from the GUEST.	11:06
tykayn	does ubuntu coreruns well on an old desktop for a unused user ?	11:07
mac___	bekks: i can not access the centos netinstall because it's require an IP address and INTERNET to complete the installation	11:07
cfhowlett	tykayn, old desktop? lubuntu or xubuntu. what the heck is an "unused user"?	11:08
bekks	mac___: So pastebin the information requested.	11:08
cfhowlett	tykayn, http://xubuntu.org/news/introducing-xubuntu-core/	11:09
tykayn	someone who knows only windows	11:10
tykayn	thanks	11:10
brenda	tykayn, yes it does, try Ubuntu first, if it is not light enough try Xbuntu, if that is not light enough go for Lubuntu.	11:13
mac___	bekks: http://pastebin.com/vE0nd5gM	11:13
tykayn	so i get an iso that fits on a CD, and after install i have to do stuffs for it to be able to work right ?	11:14
cfhowlett	tykayn, yep	11:14
Tin_man	tykayn, you say old computer, do you know the Ghz speed, memory installed ?	11:15
tykayn	yup http://www.cdiscount.com/informatique/ordinateurs-pc-portables/acer-aspire-7736zg-454g64mn/f-1070992-lxpja02310.html	11:16
cfhowlett	assume we don't read french ...	11:16
Tin_man	well don't read that language but looks like it would run ubuntu just fine.. i think	11:17
cfhowlett	tykayn, but yes, ubuntu would run on that machine ... slowly xubuntu or lubuntu would run faster	11:17
bekks	mac___: well, you configured the network interface for your vm to "intnet", not for "NAT".	11:17
tykayn	mkay	11:17
tykayn	yup no need to read french, you have the specs in numbers	11:18
mac___	bekss: itry internal after NAT	11:18
bekks	mac___: internal will never work.	11:18
mac___	bekks: ok	11:18
tykayn	ill try the lighter ubuntu	11:18
bekks	mac___: Internal is designed to NOT give you internet access. Hence the name.	11:19
Tin_man	tykayn, i noticed that it has Nvida graphics card, you might want to study up on the drivers for it..	11:19
mac___	bekss: any idea for NAT	11:20
tykayn	yup thanks :)	11:20
bekks	mac___: which ideas do you need for NAT?	11:20
Bluewolf	Hi all, I'm trying to share my desktop with my android device with "google chrome remote desktop", though I'm struggling to follow this site - https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/1649523?hl=en	11:20
Bluewolf	I'm using Ubuntu Gnome 16.04.	11:20
mac___	bekks: ineed NAT to oabtain and ip address and connect ot the internet to complete the installation	11:20
motaka2	hello, is ubuntu 14.04 lts to 16.04 lts available?	11:20
brenda	tykayn, get an Live version of Ubuntu and boot from it, then you will get an idea what is working (and what is not, in that case)	11:21
bekks	mac___: Shutdown the VM, and check the configuration of the NAT interface in the global settings of vbox.	11:21
cfhowlett	motaka2, yes. sudo do-release-upgrade	11:21
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brenda	tykayn, Nvidia will work out of the box (change the driver can be a future project)	11:22
Tin_man	didn't work out of the box with my computer	11:23
motaka2	cfhowlett: when I do sudo apt-get install php5-curl I get E: Unable to locate package php5-curl	11:23
motaka2	, is that because I am using an 14.04 ubuntu version ?	11:23
cfhowlett	motaka2, could be	11:23
mac___	bekks:enable network adapter checked , attache to NAT , cable connect checked	11:23
brenda	tykayn, with that spec. you do not need a lighter buntu	11:23
motaka2	cfhowlett: Is there a quick way to fix this?	11:23
bekks	mac___: And which IP is configured for it?	11:24
Rick19999	Hello everyone. last night I tried installing 16.04, when booting into the cd (or usb), I can get to the menu where I can Try ubuntu or install, when when selecting one, I just get a black screen with a blinking dash on the top left. I waited for ages and nothing. I tried both 16.04.1 and 16.04. I tired the nomodeset param and it made no differen	11:24
Rick19999	ce. So I tried ubuntu 15... same thing, 14 same thing, then I tried 12.04... and that worked! ... It booted into the live cd fine where I could install... Can someone explain this? why 16,15,14 won't boot into live cd but 12 will? (I have win10 on the same hd and I've disabled fast started alrady)	11:24
mac___	bekks: what ip!	11:24
bekks	!nomodeset \| Rick19999	11:24
ubottu	Rick19999: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter	11:24
bekks	mac___: Did you take a look at the vbox manual yet?	11:24
Rick19999	I tried nomodeset bekks and ubottu and it yieled the same result... I was gutted too	11:25
Tin_man	brenda, I had to run sudo update, sudo upgrade, sudo apt-get install nvidia-current	11:26
cfhowlett	motaka2, php5 does not seem to show in packages.ubuntu.com	11:26
motaka2	cfhowlett: so what should I do ?	11:26
Tin_man	that was on 16.04 full install.	11:26
cfhowlett	motaka2, are you on 14.04 or 16.04?	11:27
guzzlefry	Is there a recommended flash plugin? I see several open source ones, and then an installer for the official one.	11:27
motaka2	cfhowlett: I am on 14.04	11:27
cfhowlett	!flash \| guzzlefry	11:27
ubottu	guzzlefry: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - See also !Restricted and !Gnash	11:27
brenda	Rick19999, It could be 1000 different things hardware related (your hardware and newer kernels)	11:27
bekks	motaka2: http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/php5-curl	11:27
motaka2	bekks: how can I add this, mine is x86	11:28
bekks	motaka2: Pastebin "sudo apt update" please.	11:28
Rick19999	I may try again, because I am curious as to what's going on. Is there any way to get some debug information when I click on Install or Try ubuntu?	11:29
motaka2	bekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/21625421/	11:30
brenda	Rick19999, have tried an Ubuntu Server 16.04 install (does not need xorg to install)?	11:30
bekks	motaka2: Why dont you use security updates?	11:31
motaka2	bekks: I dont know, it happened to give me errors at start time for a wile	11:31
bekks	motaka2: Define "it".	11:32
motaka2	bekks: Is there a way to add the php curl package ? I am really in hurry	11:32
motaka2	bekks: I mean ubuntu 14.04	11:32
bekks	motaka2: Enable security updates, pastebin sudo apt update again, pastebin apt-cache policy php5-curl	11:32
Rick19999	Yeah that might be worth a shot. Will probably investigate further, I installed 12 then upgraded to 14, now upgrading to 16... I prefer fresh installs everytime to be honest... Many thanks for all your help so far, love that we have such a responsive community	11:33
motaka2	bekks: how to enable them ?	11:33
brenda	Rick19999, if the Ubuntu Server 16.04 works you can just add your desktop (gui) of preference	11:34
brenda	Rick19999, good luck!	11:34
stefan__	anybody here familiar with the opengm2 lib?	11:35
bekks	motaka2: Open up the software center, and enable them in the settings.	11:41
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motaka2	as far as i can see everything has ticks	11:45
bekks	motaka2: Are security updates enabled?	11:46
motaka2	bekks: important security updates has ticks	11:46
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brian	hi. please send me a registration code	11:50
brian	oops looks like the registration code bot is down, maybe?	11:51
brian	oh, that is very odd. a fresh install of linux mint sent me here instead of the linux mint help channel. sorry about that.	11:52
motaka2	can anyone help me instal php curl on ubuntu 14.04 ?	11:53
backbox	test	11:54
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motaka2	bekks: ???	12:00
jinnks	Hi all, would i be able to get some help about network-manager-openvpn setup here?	12:08
J4nus	Hi I have an issue with Mate, Xorg is consuming 100% cpu	12:09
xervans	jinnks what problems are you having?	12:10
jinnks	The background to this issue is that i have upgraded from ubuntu 14.04 lts to 16.04 lts	12:11
jinnks	and since than my vpn has stopped working which is setup through the network manager	12:11
rhagu	hi, I tried to compile john-the-ripper on Xenial, but it wont find OpenCL support, althouh clinfo says my gpu is capable, what may I be missing? http://pastebin.com/h3advGjm	12:11
jinnks	I will paste the error message from the syslog in pastebin, with some config information	12:12
jinnks	may be that would shed some light	12:12
xervans	hey j4nus I found this for you on SO	12:13
xervans	no sorry this is askubuntu: http://askubuntu.com/questions/331499/xorg-compiz-is-using-massive-amounts-of-cpu-what-to-do	12:14
jinnks	http://paste.ubuntu.com/21628242/ error message here	12:14
ppf	i'd like to set up printing to pdf through cups	12:14
ppf	however, cups-pdf only emits blank pages	12:14
ppf	any suggestsions how to debug that?	12:14
ppf	i've read the 4-year-old bug reports on that, they didn't help	12:15
xervans	i have a dumb question, did you install network-manager-openvpn ?	12:15
ppf	xervans: me?	12:16
Gourlay	I have a notice coming up on every start up: "System program problem detected. Do you want to report the problem now?" Can any one give me ha hand?	12:16
ppf	ah, no the other guy	12:16
xervans	no sorry ppf I'm talking to jinnks	12:16
jinnks	yes	12:16
ppf	Gourlay: click the details button	12:16
xervans	hey Gourlay, I've had that error myself happening on startup even since install. it hasn't caused any problems but its just been annoying	12:16
Gourlay	ppf, I have no button 'details'. what i do have are the alternatives 'cancel' and 'report problem...'.	12:17
ppf	sorry, yeah	12:18
jinnks	xervans the current packages installed are openvpn, network-manager-openvpn and network-manager-openvpn-gnome	12:18
Gourlay	ppf, i actually get two squares	12:18
Gourlay	ppf, the same notice	12:18
Gourlay	ppf, this happened after installing some repository	12:18
xervans	ok cool jinnks I've had a similar problem that I resolved, just trying to go through the steps I went through	12:18
jinnks	thanks	12:19
xervans	have you tried redownloading the certs?	12:19
Rick1999999	Hello again... so i posted about an hour ago about black screen with blinking dash top left. When i upgraded from 12.04 to 14 it was fine, but when i upgraded from 14 to 16, I'm getting that black screen with dash again :S I tried the nomodeset in grub...	12:19
jinnks	this is a connection to my work vpn	12:19
jinnks	so the certs have not changed.	12:20
jinnks	although i have recreated the connection quite a few times now :(	12:20
ppf	oh, is the lts update track finally out?	12:21
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xervans	hey jinnks I looked into the needsecrets error and I found this workaround, take a look?	12:23
xervans	http://www.mail-archive.com/ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com/msg1469893.html	12:23
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xervans	also jinnks did you try restarting networking and network-manager?	12:25
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ppf	anyone ever used cups-pdf? is there an alternative?	12:26
jinnks	I have not made sure that all root shells are closed, but yes rebooted pc, restarted the network-manager a number of times	12:26
BluesKaj	Hey folks	12:26
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jinnks	xervans: sorry rebooted my pc again	12:41
xervans	that's difficult .. hm	12:42
jinnks	followed the instructions in the mail thread made sure there were no root shells running still getting the same issue	12:46
manhdv	quit	12:48
Derm2	Good morning, what is the best way to get some help with iptables rules?	12:48
ppf	Derm2: asking a specific question :)	12:49
Derm2	I wanted to check before I just threw it out. :)	12:49
Derm2	I have an server acting as a gateway for Default Route aka full tunnel.	12:52
Derm2	*filter	12:52
Derm2	:FORWARD DROP [0:0]	12:52
Derm2	-A FORWARD -i zt+ -s 10.6.4.0/22 -d 0.0.0.0/0 -j ACCEPT	12:52
Derm2	-A FORWARD -i eth0 -s 0.0.0.0/0 -d 10.6.4.0/0 -j ACCEPT	12:52
Derm2	should the second line be 10.6.4.0/22?	12:52
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Derm2	ppf did I ask correctly?	12:56
mandla	Derm2, yes	12:56
Derm2	The articles was written for CentOS so I may need to change something else	12:57
Derm2	Just trying to route all traffic to my gw server then out	12:57
TheSuperGeek	Hello	13:00
TheSuperGeek	I'm using an intel HD 300	13:00
TheSuperGeek	*3000	13:00
TheSuperGeek	and i've got a problem with multi-screen (1 external screen in VGA)	13:00
TheSuperGeek	(and my laptop scren)	13:01
ktchk	anyone use remastersys?	13:01
TheSuperGeek	When I switch the mouse for the 1st screen to other	13:01
TheSuperGeek	i've got a black quare that appear and disapear	13:01
TheSuperGeek	if someone can help me please	13:01
Derm2	Is there a better channel for networking/iptables?	13:04
maret	hi everyone, my understanding is that 16.04 with unity still doesn't support touch screen out of box as for example windows does. I am talking about multitouch, automatic software keyboard and I guess also automatic screen orientation , correct? If so I heard that Ubuntu Gnome is better for touch (or best from all distros)	13:05
FManTropyx	perhaps ##networking maybe	13:05
apb1963	I need a flash substitute. It constantly crashes... I was considering gnash. http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/i386/browser-plugin-gnash/download Any warnings, caveats, reasons, etc. not to use it or a better solution?	13:06
Exec	Hey, where can I get libvga.so.1? One of my installed apps need it	13:07
herbeth	hi	13:07
ajalkane	This is driving my mad. I just upgraded to Ubuntu 16.04 after much jolly troubles - but nevermind them. What drives me crazy, is that I have an USB stick that I've created with Startup Disk Creator, and it's read-only. I can't copy any files into it. With 14.04 I had no such troubles, I just inserted the USB stick and I could write to it. Anyone know how this could be fixed?	13:12
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Exec	invex: was that your ns pw?	13:15
invex	?	13:17
Industrial	Hi. I have a thing here.	13:19
Industrial	if I disable SUPER+L screen lock by `gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.lockdown disable-lock-screen true`	13:19
Industrial	then the screen goes black and I can not use the SUPER+L combination for something else	13:20
Industrial	I want to use HJKL keys like vim for navigating workspaces	13:20
Industrial	What do I do to fix this?	13:20
albech	does anyone know if there is a repository that has dspam in it? i know it is a rather old and unsupported spamfilter, but it is still the best there is	13:24
albech	i see the last ubuntu version that had it was 14.04 LTS	13:26
l33n	i am trying to find out why reboot never finishes so have enabled a debug-shell, how do i use it	13:32
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Hydr0p0nX	l33n - what happens when you reboot?	13:36
Hydr0p0nX	Also, seems other people have had a similar issue, http://askubuntu.com/questions/764568/ubuntu-16-04-hangs-on-shutdown-restart may give you some things to try	13:37
l33n	well i know its not a kernel problem	13:37
l33n	it halts the system	13:37
l33n	the system shutsdown most of the way and drops to a black screen	13:38
l33n	but does not reboot	13:38
l33n	using sync && reboot -f reboots the system	13:38
floogy	Hi, I want to upgrade trusty to xenial. How can I tell for sure my home is encrypted? I thought so, but I can not find a ecryptfs passphrase. There are even no ecryptfs-utils installed. Could it be encrypted in a different way. Sorry, but I'm not as involved in ubunt, like I used to be e.g. since hoary till precise	13:39
EriC^^	floogy: try df -h and see if it's mounted	13:40
floogy	besides /sys, /run and /dev there is only / listed. That tells: ecryptfs-recover-private	13:41
floogy	Sorry: ~$ mount\|grep 'on / '	13:41
floogy	/dev/sda1 on / type ext4 (rw,errors=remount-ro)	13:41
EriC^^	floogy: i'd say it's not encrypted	13:42
floogy	c & p error. ecryptfs-recover-private isn't installed.	13:42
EriC^^	usually it has a /home/user/.Private or so mounted on /home/user	13:42
EriC^^	floogy: you could try creating an encrypted user to compare	13:43
floogy	Thanks, that's what I think, too. ~/.Private doesn't exist. I got a second ubuntu install. Maybe that one is the encrypted one. I simply forgot about that stuff.	13:43
EriC^^	adduser --encrypt-home <user>	13:44
EriC^^	oh ok	13:44
jaerf	Hi everyone! language-pack-en-base and dependencies are installed in a fresh ubuntu distro (inside LXD), but the french accents don't work. When exec'ing into it, the "é" for instance doesn't display. locale returns everything to posix even tho /etc/default/locale and /etc/environment are defining everything to "en_US.UTF-8". Seems like these settings are ignored, ideas?	13:45
floogy	I read, that one should decrypt first, before upgrade from trusty to xenial.	13:45
EriC^^	floogy: i dont think that's necessary	13:45
floogy	If there is nothing encrypted, so I'm fine.	13:45
EriC^^	the upgrade shouldn't touch anything in the user's home dir, could be wrong though	13:45
c0d3v3n0m	exit	13:47
floogy	Ah, ok. I think now I'm understanding. That was only regarding fstzab entries due to tghe change from upstart to systemd https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ecryptfs-utils/+bug/1447282	13:47
ubottu	Launchpad bug 1447282 in eCryptfs "Does not use encrypted swap when using GPT partitioning + encrypted home directory (ecryptfs)" [High,Fix committed]	13:47
noob	hello	13:47
floogy	sorry, german: https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Upgrade_Trusty_auf_Xenial/	13:47
floogy	Thank you for your help EriC^^	13:49
EriC^^	floogy: no problem	13:49
jaerf	seems like "update-locale LANG=de_DE.UTF-8" is defining /etc/default/locale correctly, but after a reboot it remains the same	13:50
jaerf	(POSIX everywhere)	13:50
jelly	stupid question: why does xenial have wine 1.6 and wine-development 1.9.6, but no 1.8?	13:51
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skinux	Need just a little help. VLC opens DVDs ,plays FBI Warning, plays little movie company intro, then movies stop.	13:55
jaerf	No one available for my locale issue?	13:55
zumba_addict	i'm planning to reinstall my linunx. My server is currently running fedora 3. I don't have a cd drive. What's the best way to install Ubuntu?	13:59
jaerf	zumba_addict: USB?	13:59
jaerf	Wow, fedora 3.	13:59
jaerf	Do you have a USB socket? lol	13:59
zumba_addict	yes, I have usb	13:59
zumba_addict	fedora 3, hahaha. I'm telling the truth	13:59
zumba_addict	it's extremely fast and I love how i setup xorg	14:00
zumba_addict	forgot which gui I use	14:00
ctjctj	zumba_addict, you can create a bootable USB if your hardware will boot from USB. Or you will need to do a network boot.	14:00
zumba_addict	The machine is still good. It's I7 with 16gb of memory	14:00
zumba_addict	got it, maybe using dd	14:01
ctjctj	zumba_addict, there is a tool to create bootable USBs...	14:01
zumba_addict	oh cool	14:01
ctjctj	usb-creator-gtk	14:01
zumba_addict	is that an ubuntu tool?	14:01
ctjctj	I think that's it.	14:01
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ctjctj	Hmmm, yes. But what language... Checking now.	14:02
zumba_addict	if so, it won't work for me	14:02
zumba_addict	i'm running fedora	14:02
zumba_addict	i'll use dd and find a bootable iso	14:03
ctjctj	It is written with python so if your fedora is compatible there is a chance.	14:03
zumba_addict	cool	14:03
zumba_addict	python should be easy to install	14:03
ctjctj	https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_create_and_use_Live_USB	14:03
jaerf	zumba_addict: you can easily do it with dd if you know how to do it	14:03
zumba_addict	yup, i know dd	14:03
jaerf	zumba_addict: dd if=/path/to/iso.iso of=/dev/yourdevice BS=1M;	14:04
zumba_addict	just need a working iso	14:04
jaerf	Oh	14:04
zumba_addict	yup, that's it	14:04
sinapsi81	salve	14:04
zumba_addict	i mean, i need to find a ubuntu iso that's for usb	14:04
jaerf	zumba_addict: http://torrent.ubuntu.com/simple/xenial/server/	14:04
zumba_addict	cool	14:04
jaerf	I use that for my isos, work fine	14:04
zumba_addict	i'll get the i386 since this is an intel cpu	14:05
sinapsi81	just go on the webside and download it	14:05
zumba_addict	there are 2 files :)	14:05
ctjctj	zumba_addict, and if it won't boot off a thumb drive you could pick up an external USB dvd/cd drive.	14:05
ctjctj	isn't x86 for intel 64bit as well as AMD now?	14:05
zumba_addict	hmmm, reminds me i have an external cd that i use in thinkpad	14:06
jaerf	zumba_addict: I think you'd rather get the amd64	14:06
zumba_addict	but amd64 is for AMD	14:06
sunnydealmeida	Nope	14:06
zumba_addict	oh	14:06
sunnydealmeida	It will work for 64 bit cpus	14:06
zumba_addict	didn't know amd64 can work on intel cpu	14:06
zumba_addict	ah	14:07
zumba_addict	thanks for clearing that	14:07
jaerf	it's more like 32bits and 64bits	14:07
zumba_addict	i had it all wrong	14:07
jaerf	not really like this but mostly how you can understand it	14:07
zumba_addict	k	14:07
jaerf	Even if it's not supported, it won't burn your cpu but returns an error	14:07
zumba_addict	yup, it just won't boot	14:08
sunnydealmeida	it works	14:08
Islah	Hi everyone, I just installed the latest version of Lubuntu(16.04) and when trying to connect to the wifi, I cant. I'll go to the network manager and it says No Network devices avaliable. I cannot use ethernet to access the internet (as it's on a notebook with no ethernet port). Anyone know a fix for this?	14:08
jaerf	Islah: do you have wireless working when you're in the Lubuntu liveCD?	14:09
zumba_addict	i'm downloading amd6 now	14:09
jaerf	Islah: do you know the Wifi card reference?	14:09
zumba_addict	thnks jaerf, ctjctj and sunnydealmeida	14:10
Islah	one sec, lemme find it jaerf	14:10
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jaerf	you're not supposed to install it manually but heh.. no network	14:10
Islah	it's a broadcom BCM43142	14:11
sunnydealmeida	i had similar issue with xubuntu 14.04	14:12
sunnydealmeida	I am sorry lubuntu 14	14:12
Islah	how did you go about fixing it sunnydealmeida ?	14:13
sunnydealmeida	try this thread	14:13
sunnydealmeida	http://askubuntu.com/questions/322861/how-to-connect-to-wireless-network-in-lubuntu	14:13
=== christopher is now known as Guest91427
zumba_addict	should it be BS=1M or bs=1m? or dd knows it?	14:16
Islah	nope, doesn't work sunnydealmeida	14:16
Islah	:(	14:16
jaerf	zumba_addict: try 1M	14:17
zumba_addict	k	14:17
jaerf	It will return immediately if it fails	14:17
Islah	when trying to run nm-applet it says "Error retrieving accessibility bus address: org.freedesktop.dbus.Error.ServiceUnknown"	14:17
sunnydealmeida	so maybe you can check if drivers are installed	14:17
zumba_addict	1M is invalid. I'm using 1m nw	14:17
zumba_addict	now	14:17
Mathisen	Islah, yo bad you dont got cable >> sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer	14:17
Mathisen	Islah, dont know what to do without internet doh	14:18
zumba_addict	i wish this bootable usb will also boot on my macbook	14:18
jaerf	Islah: you need the package "bcmwl-kernel-source"	14:18
jaerf	zumba_addict: it will	14:18
jaerf	zumba_addict: it also boots on every machine	14:18
zumba_addict	oh ok	14:18
jaerf	just press ALT on the mac boot sequence	14:19
sunnydealmeida	may be borrow or buy a usb dongle	14:19
zumba_addict	if it does, now I need a non-install. I need an iso with gui running	14:19
jaerf	before OSX gets loaded (while the Apple displays) and it will show the disks	14:19
zumba_addict	got it	14:19
zumba_addict	i need another iso for my mac	14:19
jaerf	zumba_addict: you can use the server iso to install a desktop	14:19
jaerf	At the end it does the same thing: installing what you ask	14:19
zumba_addict	i don't want to install on my macbook but on the other machine, yes	14:20
Islah	alright i downloaded the .deb file onto a USB jaerf	14:20
jaerf	The thing is, the server is CLI, the desktop is.. desktop heh	14:20
zumba_addict	yup, i'm ok with both	14:20
jaerf	Islah: okay, do you have the file on your computer?	14:20
Islah	yeah	14:20
jaerf	Open a terminal, then sudo dpkg -i /path/to/the/file.deb	14:21
kunststoff	please take a look at https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Systemd-networkd#link_files and tell me if I have to rename [Match] and [Link] to something if Im creating a link file to change mac automatically	14:21
jaerf	Gotta go	14:21
jaerf	goodluck Islah :x	14:21
zumba_addict	i'll try this too on my mac - http://docs.kali.org/installation/kali-linux-network-mini-iso-install	14:21
jaerf	have fun zumba_addict and the others	14:21
zumba_addict	thanks bruh	14:21
Islah	got a dpkg: error processing package bcmwl-kernel-source (--install)	14:22
DWSR	Hey, what's the init daemon in 16.04.1?	14:22
Islah	rip me	14:23
sunnydealmeida	Islah I think you need internet.	14:24
lordcirth	DWSR, systemd 229	14:24
DWSR	lordcirth: Haven't been keeping up to date on UBuntu. We dumped upstart?	14:24
Islah	That's what im trying to get sunny :(	14:25
lordcirth	DWSR, in 15.04	14:25
Islah	tried to install it manually with the .deb file on my laptop	14:25
sunnydealmeida	the package will download the drivers for you	14:25
DWSR	lordcirth: Ah.	14:25
DWSR	lordcirth: https://github.com/Sonarr/Sonarr/wiki/Autostart-on-Linux <-- So, on this page, I should be using option 2?	14:25
zumba_addict	the ubuntu iso on usb booted on my mac osx :D but I don't have a choice to pick livecd	14:27
zumba_addict	the only choices are Install which i don't want	14:27
lordcirth	DWSR, neither of those are systemd	14:28
lordcirth	DWSR, #1 might work	14:28
DWSR	lordcirth: Am aware.	14:28
DWSR	lordcirth: It's written for upstart, though	14:28
lordcirth	Upstart stuff generally still works, iirc. Haven't tried recently.	14:28
DWSR	lordcirth: I also found this systemd script: https://gist.github.com/alazare619/e9c3cd3ffbbf9c6fcf14	14:29
DWSR	I don't know enough about systemd to know what to do with it, but	14:29
DWSR	lordcirth: Also, systemd lists that it can use LSB scripts.	14:30
Deathrider	huhu	14:30
Deathrider	is this the supportchannel?	14:30
=== Dream is now known as Kids
Deathrider	I have a problem with the installation	14:31
Kids	what about it?	14:32
Deathrider	translated: your installations-cd-rom cant mount. there is no cd-rom at the disk	14:32
Deathrider	but i try to install from a usb	14:32
Deathrider	how can i mount the usb as cdrom	14:33
zumba_a__	what does amd in the filename mean?	14:33
sunnydealmeida	it is 64 bit	14:33
lordcirth	zumba_a__, 'amd64'?	14:33
Deathrider	i install this on a server, and the server have no cdrom	14:33
zumba_a__	yeah	14:33
zumba_a__	i thought it was the company AMD	14:34
zumba_a__	but found out it's 64 bit	14:34
lordcirth	zumba_a__, AMD created x86_64 architercture	14:34
lordcirth	so it's both	14:34
brushdemon	reeeeeeeee	14:34
sunnydealmeida	Deathrider: is the port usb3	14:37
sunnydealmeida	?	14:37
Deathrider	i dont know	14:37
Deathrider	i think not	14:37
Deathrider	the usb is	14:37
sunnydealmeida	in most cases it is blue	14:37
Deathrider	can i upload pictures? via imgur?	14:37
Deathrider	or is this not good?	14:38
Deathrider	the usbport has no color	14:38
sunnydealmeida	check the bios or system manual	14:39
Kids	i'm sorry, but what's usbport?	14:40
Deathrider	usbport = female part of usb	14:40
Kids	i ' m sorry, but what's usbport?	14:40
Deathrider	what schould i check in the bios?	14:40
Kids	okay	14:40
Kids	thanks	14:40
sunnydealmeida	if it is usb3	14:41
Deathrider	srry native German, my english is not best	14:41
marxS	hi	14:43
sburwood321	Need help with a friend who, unfortunately has Windows 8.1 on a laptop. He can t remember his password to save his life	14:44
Kids	oh man	14:44
liamphmurphy	That's a nasty situation.	14:44
sburwood321	I agree	14:45
Deathrider	i am in the bios	14:45
Deathrider	where can i see this?	14:45
Deathrider	system optiona	14:45
Deathrider	pci Devices	14:45
Deathrider	ipl	14:45
Kids	is disc password?	14:45
Deathrider	boot controll order	14:46
Deathrider	date and time	14:46
liamphmurphy	You'll have to google around, pretty sure you'll have to do that 'administrative' boot or whatever that's called.	14:46
liamphmurphy	Holding shift and restart, then advanced options etc.	14:46
Deathrider	server availability	14:46
Deathrider	server passwords	14:46
Deathrider	bios serial console	14:46
sburwood321	liamphmurphy: you re talking to who?	14:46
Deathrider	server asset text	14:46
Deathrider	advanced options	14:47
sburwood321	Kids: you re talking to me or not?	14:47
liamphmurphy	to you, sburwood321	14:47
sunnydealmeida	sburwood321: try this link http://www.chntpw.com/reset-windows-7-admin-password-with-ubuntu/	14:49
Deathrider	this server has 4x USB 1.1 and 1x USB 2.0	14:49
sburwood321	liamphmurphy: ok. So it s in the boot sequence before he gets the gui that it asks for a password. By the way, the e mail address is not recent, according to him	14:49
-thaker:#ubuntu- FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET		14:51
-astle:#ubuntu- FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET		14:51
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nguyen	vv	14:51
odish	nothing wrong with ubuntu wtf ?	14:51
\9	odish: it's spam, ignore	14:52
odish	i know	14:52
kunststoff	somebody is a bit angry	14:52
sunnydealmeida	Deathrider: try this thread : http://askubuntu.com/questions/671159/bootable-usb-needs-cd-rom	14:52
-schacham:#ubuntu- FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET		14:52
-laux:#ubuntu- FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET		14:52
-gionet:#ubuntu- FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET		14:52
-gaiarsa:#ubuntu- FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET		14:52
kunststoff	what command do I need to get a list of address, netmask, gateway and dns nameservers currently in use?	14:54
sburwood321	liamphmurphy: what I m gonna do is to go and download ubuntu on my computer at my house and come back and follow those instructions. Do you think it works with windows 8.0, 8.1 and 10?	14:54
\9	kunststoff: ifconfig should get you everything except the dns nameserver, I think	14:54
liamphmurphy	sburwood321: No, I was presuming you were able to access the Windows Login (which you arent, right?)	14:56
Kids	where is our The Administrator	14:59
sburwood321	liamphmurphy: what happens is that it starts to boot and gets to the point where it says that it doesn t work. You have the option between using advanced options , reinitiallisationof the system or update the system. But the e mail address as the only account is wrong and no way to figure out the correct password amongst those he thinks was the correct one	15:00
sburwood321	http://i.imgur.com/4GoSIBm.jpg	15:01
sburwood321	http://i.imgur.com/4lDo4c1.jpg	15:02
Neomex	how do I create empty file in ubuntu? when i rmb i get only new folder and new document #ubuntunoob	15:03
Neomex	sburwood321, whos that in bg? :D	15:03
curlyears	heigh hough	15:03
Hydr0p0nX	Neomex - touch /path/to/file.ext	15:03
sburwood321	Neomex: I m trying to help a friend who can t get to his gui in windows 8 or 1	15:04
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curlyears	wht is the sinoke CLI command that lists the version and stepping number of your OS, and all the psarameters of the setup?	15:05
sburwood321	Neomex: while it is in French, someone who knows windows can figure out where it sticks and why he has a problem	15:05
curlyears	s/sinoke/small/	15:06
Neomex	Hydr0p0nX, umm, whats the felault path to desktop? and why *.ext? and touch is a word or terminal command? :D	15:06
Neomex	default*	15:07
Hydr0p0nX	Neomex - Desktop is typically /home/<username>/Desktop , touch is a command to create an empty file at the path specified	15:08
Kids	vim also can be used to create it.yes?	15:09
guzzlefry	Are there GUI-based system monitors with graphs and such? Besides Conky and Gnome System Monitor.	15:09
sunnydealmeida	Neomex do you want an empty text file?	15:09
Neomex	sunnydealmeida, file with no extension, ill be needing couple of them, but for starters *.s	15:10
sunnydealmeida	use the new document option on rmb put in name with extension	15:11
Neomex	do it creates file not document? or document == file?	15:11
kunststoff	on /etc/network/ there is a interfaces file and a hidden interfaces- file. what is the - doing there and can I get rid of it?	15:11
Neomex	so*	15:11
kunststoff	not exactly a minus, but a curved minus	15:12
Neomex	~ ? kunststoff	15:12
kunststoff	yes Neomex	15:12
curlyears	http://paste.ubuntu.com/21642365/	15:12
kunststoff	it was last used 4 months agoe (interfaces~)	15:13
MoxygeRen	Hi	15:13
marxS	hi	15:13
MoxygeRen	Im on 16.04 and everything has been alright for a few months since today.	15:14
MoxygeRen	The Start Menu doesn't show	15:14
curlyears	quiet as a hunting panther in here	15:15
MoxygeRen	neither the status bar	15:15
k1l_	kunststoff: ist most probaply a backup file created from the editor you uses. most times thats a gui editor	15:15
kunststoff	ok	15:15
kunststoff	thx	15:15
k1l_	curlyears: you have still a lot of updates waiting	15:15
kunststoff	so k1l_ there is nothing wrong in deleting it...	15:16
k1l_	kunststoff: as long there is the real file and that is working, you can delete it	15:16
kunststoff	good thx	15:17
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Neomex	kunststoff, its called tilda btw, the ~ thingy	15:17
kunststoff	Neomex, how do I write a tilda?	15:17
Neomex	on my keyboard its above tab	15:18
emetsipe	tilde, i think	15:18
k1l_	Neomex: depends on your keyboard layout	15:18
kunststoff	i have a spanish keyboard	15:18
k1l_	adroit_machine: that package you showed clearly comes form a ppa	15:18
miles	What version of Ubuntu and Desktop Environment should I put on this computer? (AMD Athlon 32 Bit CPU, 20GB Hard-drive, Old Graphics Card, 256mb Ram)	15:19
k1l_	miles: Lubuntu	15:19
miles	k1l_: What version of Lubuntu?	15:19
k1l_	miles: try the 16.04, i guess	15:21
miles	I tried 14.04 Lubuntu, graphics card couldn't handle it.	15:22
miles	Right now it is at 10.0.4.4	15:22
miles	Ubuntu	15:22
paul0897	hello	15:22
k1l_	that is out of support. you could try the 12.04	15:23
miles	Okay, thanks.	15:23
miles	I'll try it.	15:23
curlyears	K1l: How do I encourage them to show tyheir furry little heads?	15:24
k1l_	curlyears: "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade"	15:26
littke	Ỏ̷͖͈̞̩͎̻̫̫̜͉̠̫͕̭̭̫̫̹̗̹͈̼̠̖͍͚̥͈̮̼͕̠̤̯̻̥̬̗̼̳̤̳̬̪̹͚̞̼̠͕̼̠̦͚̫͔̯̹͉͉̘͎͕̼̣̝͙̱̟̹̩̟̳̦̭͉̮̖̭̣̣̞̙̗̜̺̭̻̥͚͙̝̦̲̱͉͖͉̰̦͎̫̣̼͎͍̠̮͓̹̹͉̤̰̗̙͕͇͔̱͕̭͈̳̗̭͔̘̖̺̮̜̠͖̘͓̳͕̟̠̱̫̤͓͔̘̰̲͙͍͇̙͎̣̼̗̖͙̯͉̠̟͈͍͕̪͓̝̩̦̖̹̼̠̘̮͚̟͉̺̜͍͓̯̳̱̻͕̣̳͉̻̭̭̱͍̪̩̭̺͕̺̼̥̪͖̦̟͎̻̰ด้้�	15:26
wwwi	hello, if I make a txt file in Ubuntu, will be readable/editable in Windows?	15:26
sunnydealmeida	Yes	15:27
EriC^^	wwwi: yeah, but windows can't mount ext4 by default	15:28
akik	wwwi: the line ending character will be different but for example notepad++ opens it correctly	15:28
wwwi	ok	15:29
wwwi	if it's another editor won't be able t convert the line endings?	15:29
EriC^^	wwwi: ubuntu has tools to convert them	15:30
paul0897	hi	15:30
FManTropyx	I like Crimson and it supports both	15:30
EriC^^	sudo apt-get install dos2unix	15:30
paul0897	good morning	15:30
EriC^^	wwwi: ^	15:30
kullen	helo?	15:31
wwwi	but Windows can convert the Linux txt file?	15:32
littke	Ỏ̷͖͈̞̩͎̻̫̫̜͉̠̫͕̭̭̫̫̹̗̹͈̼̠̖͍͚̥͈̮̼͕̠̤̯̻̥̬̗̼̳̤̳̬̪̹͚̞̼̠͕̼̠̦͚̫͔̯̹͉͉̘͎͕̼̣̝͙̱̟̹̩̟̳̦̭͉̮̖̭̣̣̞̙̗̜̺̭̻̥͚͙̝̦̲̱͉͖͉̰̦͎̫̣̼͎͍̠̮͓̹̹͉̤̰̗̙͕͇͔̱͕̭͈̳̗̭͔̘̖̺̮̜̠͖̘͓̳͕̟̠̱̫̤͓͔̘̰̲͙͍͇̙͎̣̼̗̖͙̯͉̠̟͈͍͕̪͓̝̩̦̖̹̼̠̘̮͚̟͉̺̜͍͓̯̳̱̻͕̣̳͉̻̭̭̱͍̪̩̭̺͕̺̼̥̪͖̦̟͎̻̰ ͬͤ ͬͬ	15:33
FManTropyx	Windows support is on ##windows	15:34
wwwi	ok	15:34
k1l_	littke: stop that in here	15:35
curlyears	when I sudo the apt-get line for upgrading to 16.04.1 LTS, with a pastebinit added, it spits out 2/3 screen of informartive messages, then hangs with the following message WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts.	15:35
k1l_	curlyears: ubuntu doesnt upgrade to the next release with apt-get	15:36
akik	wwwi: if you open the file in notepad++ it'll open correctly. probably wordpad works too	15:36
-leger:#ubuntu- Ỏ̷͖͈̞̩͎̻̫̫̜͉̠̫͕̭̭̫̫̹̗̹͈̼̠̖͍͚̥͈̮̼͕̠̤̯̻̥̬̗̼̳̤̳̬̪̹͚̞̼̠͕̼̠̦͚̫͔̯̹͉͉̘͎͕̼̣̝͙̱̟̹̩̟̳̦̭͉̮̖̭̣̣̞̙̗̜̺̭̻̥͚͙̝̦̲̱͉͖͉̰̦͎̫̣̼͎͍̠̮͓̹̹͉̤̰̗̙͕͇͔̱͕̭͈̳̗̭͔̘̖̺̮̜̠͖̘͓̳͕̟̠̱̫̤͓͔̘̰̲͙͍͇̙͎̣̼̗̖͙̯͉̠̟͈͍͕̪͓̝̩̦̖̹̼̠̘̮͚̟͉̺̜͍͓̯̳̱̻͕̣̳͉̻̭̭̱͍̪̩̭̺͕̺̼̥̪͖̦̟͎̻̰ ͬͤ ͬͬ		15:38
-aery:#ubuntu- Ỏ̷͖͈̞̩͎̻̫̫̜͉̠̫͕̭̭̫̫̹̗̹͈̼̠̖͍͚̥͈̮̼͕̠̤̯̻̥̬̗̼̳̤̳̬̪̹͚̞̼̠͕̼̠̦͚̫͔̯̹͉͉̘͎͕̼̣̝͙̱̟̹̩̟̳̦̭͉̮̖̭̣̣̞̙̗̜̺̭̻̥͚͙̝̦̲̱͉͖͉̰̦͎̫̣̼͎͍̠̮͓̹̹͉̤̰̗̙͕͇͔̱͕̭͈̳̗̭͔̘̖̺̮̜̠͖̘͓̳͕̟̠̱̫̤͓͔̘̰̲͙͍͇̙͎̣̼̗̖͙̯͉̠̟͈͍͕̪͓̝̩̦̖̹̼̠̘̮͚̟͉̺̜͍͓̯̳̱̻͕̣̳͉̻̭̭̱͍̪̩̭̺͕̺̼̥̪͖̦̟͎̻̰ ͬͤ ͬͬ		15:38
-kingslan:#ubuntu- Ỏ̷͖͈̞̩͎̻̫̫̜͉̠̫͕̭̭̫̫̹̗̹͈̼̠̖͍͚̥͈̮̼͕̠̤̯̻̥̬̗̼̳̤̳̬̪̹͚̞̼̠͕̼̠̦͚̫͔̯̹͉͉̘͎͕̼̣̝͙̱̟̹̩̟̳̦̭͉̮̖̭̣̣̞̙̗̜̺̭̻̥͚͙̝̦̲̱͉͖͉̰̦͎̫̣̼͎͍̠̮͓̹̹͉̤̰̗̙͕͇͔̱͕̭͈̳̗̭͔̘̖̺̮̜̠͖̘͓̳͕̟̠̱̫̤͓͔̘̰̲͙͍͇̙͎̣̼̗̖͙̯͉̠̟͈͍͕̪͓̝̩̦̖̹̼̠̘̮͚̟͉̺̜͍͓̯̳̱̻͕̣̳͉̻̭̭̱͍̪̩̭̺͕̺̼̥̪͖̦̟͎̻̰ ͬͤ ͬͬ		15:38
-kingslan:#ubuntu- Ỏ̷͖͈̞̩͎̻̫̫̜͉̠̫͕̭̭̫̫̹̗̹͈̼̠̖͍͚̥͈̮̼͕̠̤̯̻̥̬̗̼̳̤̳̬̪̹͚̞̼̠͕̼̠̦͚̫͔̯̹͉͉̘͎͕̼̣̝͙̱̟̹̩̟̳̦̭͉̮̖̭̣̣̞̙̗̜̺̭̻̥͚͙̝̦̲̱͉͖͉̰̦͎̫̣̼͎͍̠̮͓̹̹͉̤̰̗̙͕͇͔̱͕̭͈̳̗̭͔̘̖̺̮̜̠͖̘͓̳͕̟̠̱̫̤͓͔̘̰̲͙͍͇̙͎̣̼̗̖͙̯͉̠̟͈͍͕̪͓̝̩̦̖̹̼̠̘̮͚̟͉̺̜͍͓̯̳̱̻͕̣̳͉̻̭̭̱͍̪̩̭̺͕̺̼̥̪͖̦̟͎̻̰ ͬͤ ͬͬ		15:38
-degraauw:#ubuntu- Ỏ̷͖͈̞̩͎̻̫̫̜͉̠̫͕̭̭̫̫̹̗̹͈̼̠̖͍͚̥͈̮̼͕̠̤̯̻̥̬̗̼̳̤̳̬̪̹͚̞̼̠͕̼̠̦͚̫͔̯̹͉͉̘͎͕̼̣̝͙̱̟̹̩̟̳̦̭͉̮̖̭̣̣̞̙̗̜̺̭̻̥͚͙̝̦̲̱͉͖͉̰̦͎̫̣̼͎͍̠̮͓̹̹͉̤̰̗̙͕͇͔̱͕̭͈̳̗̭͔̘̖̺̮̜̠͖̘͓̳͕̟̠̱̫̤͓͔̘̰̲͙͍͇̙͎̣̼̗̖͙̯͉̠̟͈͍͕̪͓̝̩̦̖̹̼̠̘̮͚̟͉̺̜͍͓̯̳̱̻͕̣̳͉̻̭̭̱͍̪̩̭̺͕̺̼̥̪͖̦̟͎̻̰ ͬͤ ͬͬ		15:38
-degraauw:#ubuntu- Ỏ̷͖͈̞̩͎̻̫̫̜͉̠̫͕̭̭̫̫̹̗̹͈̼̠̖͍͚̥͈̮̼͕̠̤̯̻̥̬̗̼̳̤̳̬̪̹͚̞̼̠͕̼̠̦͚̫͔̯̹͉͉̘͎͕̼̣̝͙̱̟̹̩̟̳̦̭͉̮̖̭̣̣̞̙̗̜̺̭̻̥͚͙̝̦̲̱͉͖͉̰̦͎̫̣̼͎͍̠̮͓̹̹͉̤̰̗̙͕͇͔̱͕̭͈̳̗̭͔̘̖̺̮̜̠͖̘͓̳͕̟̠̱̫̤͓͔̘̰̲͙͍͇̙͎̣̼̗̖͙̯͉̠̟͈͍͕̪͓̝̩̦̖̹̼̠̘̮͚̟͉̺̜͍͓̯̳̱̻͕̣̳͉̻̭̭̱͍̪̩̭̺͕̺̼̥̪͖̦̟͎̻̰ ͬͤ ͬͬ		15:38
-loralee:#ubuntu- Ỏ̷͖͈̞̩͎̻̫̫̜͉̠̫͕̭̭̫̫̹̗̹͈̼̠̖͍͚̥͈̮̼͕̠̤̯̻̥̬̗̼̳̤̳̬̪̹͚̞̼̠͕̼̠̦͚̫͔̯̹͉͉̘͎͕̼̣̝͙̱̟̹̩̟̳̦̭͉̮̖̭̣̣̞̙̗̜̺̭̻̥͚͙̝̦̲̱͉͖͉̰̦͎̫̣̼͎͍̠̮͓̹̹͉̤̰̗̙͕͇͔̱͕̭͈̳̗̭͔̘̖̺̮̜̠͖̘͓̳͕̟̠̱̫̤͓͔̘̰̲͙͍͇̙͎̣̼̗̖͙̯͉̠̟͈͍͕̪͓̝̩̦̖̹̼̠̘̮͚̟͉̺̜͍͓̯̳̱̻͕̣̳͉̻̭̭̱͍̪̩̭̺͕̺̼̥̪͖̦̟͎̻̰ ͬͤ ͬͬ		15:38
curlyears	K1l then how DO I do that?	15:38
bad_wifi	hi	15:40
bad_wifi	i need help	15:40
marxS	with what	15:40
bad_wifi	I just freshly install ubuntu 16.04. I can connect to wifi, but once I'm connnected I can't connect to the internet if that makes sense.	15:40
marxS	you sure it's not a problem with your router/ISP?	15:41
k1l_	curlyears: on what ubuntu release are you now? "lsb_release -d" shows it	15:41
bad_wifi	Description:Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS	15:42
e-vent	Hello all, I have an OpenVZ VPS with Fuse supposedly enabled but I cannot modprobe fuse as it is missing.	15:45
e-vent	I have fuse installed and have sshfs installed.	15:45
k1l_	on openvz the host needs to provide the modules. is it really activated on the host to share with the vps?	15:46
e-vent	Installation gives an error about /dev/fuse missing	15:46
e-vent	So despite them saying it is enabled, I suspect it isn't.	15:46
Deathrider	re	15:47
curlyears	16.04.1 LTS, so apparently I made it. Apparently. It ,ight have been nice for it to announce itself.	15:48
newbie\|2	anyone know where I could get the RTL8814AU driver for Ubuntu? Been looking like a nut for some time; haven't yet found it	15:48
curlyears	thank for your assistance, k1l	15:49
paul0897	hello all	15:49
k1l_	curlyears: the .1 release is just a "servicepack" release. if you have 16.04 installed already you get that with the updates.	15:49
curlyears	got it	15:49
k1l_	curlyears: its more for the new installs not having to download all updates from april, but get them bundled on the new cd.	15:49
e-vent	There anyway to check the host actually has fuse enabled on my end?	15:49
curlyears	BCNU	15:50
alchemistswl	keks :D	15:51
RandomNoob	Hello guys my friend has isntalled ubuntu on his old machine. Now he wants to install windows xp. We got error error attempt to read or write outside of disk hd0. what to do ?	15:52
HalfOfAKebab	hey guys	15:55
HalfOfAKebab	i kinda fucked up uninstalling ubuntu	15:55
HalfOfAKebab	so i have/had a windows+ubuntu dual boot	15:56
HalfOfAKebab	and i wanted to get rid of ubuntu and reinstall it because i had an unrelated issue with it	15:56
HalfOfAKebab	and i couldn't find a way to do that just looking around, so i did something dumb and just removed the partitions it created and expanded the rest of the disk to them	15:57
HalfOfAKebab	and now when i boot it automatically goes to grub	15:57
HalfOfAKebab	i tried using some commands in cmd and using windows repair but it still doesn't automatically go to windows	15:57
HalfOfAKebab	i can still access windows by using f8 to get to the boot menu though	15:58
HalfOfAKebab	anyone know what i can do?	15:58
ruijanpallas	fix the mbr with windows boot cd	15:58
HalfOfAKebab	i also did that	15:59
RandomNoob	error attempt to read or write outside of disk hd0. what to do with it ?	16:00
bad_wifi	it's not a router issue	16:00
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sunnydealmeida	HalfOfAKebab try this http://askubuntu.com/questions/133533/how-to-remove-ubuntu-and-put-windows-back-on	16:05
HalfOfAKebab	sunnydealmeida i tried that, but i don't actually have ubuntu fully on it. i can't boot into it. i only have grub.	16:06
sunnydealmeida	You could try with windows disk if you have that.	16:08
EriC^^	HalfOfAKebab: is it uefi?	16:08
HalfOfAKebab	EriC^^ how do i check?	16:08
EriC^^	when you press f8 do you get a uefi menu	16:08
HalfOfAKebab	sunnydealmeida what specifically? i have a windows 10 bootable usb	16:09
EriC^^	that says Windows boot manager, ubuntu, etc?	16:09
HalfOfAKebab	EriC^^ as in, a list of os's and drives? yes	16:09
EriC^^	HalfOfAKebab: do you have an ubuntu liveusb?	16:09
tgm4883	HalfOfAKebab: you have 2 drives, one with ubuntu and the other with windows?	16:09
HalfOfAKebab	EriC^^ is that a bootable ubuntu usb?	16:10
EriC^^	HalfOfAKebab: yeah	16:10
HalfOfAKebab	tgm4883 yep, along with my usb and hdd. windows and ubuntu are on my ssd	16:10
tgm4883	HalfOfAKebab: are you trying to get rid of ubuntu completely?	16:10
HalfOfAKebab	tgm4883 yes	16:10
Neomex	why cant i cd into $HOME/src ? i thought the folder should be there, should i just create one?	16:10
tgm4883	HalfOfAKebab: boot into windows and format the other drive	16:10
HalfOfAKebab	tgm4883 my bad, misread your question. windows and ubuntu are on the same drive	16:11
EriC^^	HalfOfAKebab: do you have an ubuntu liveusb?	16:11
HalfOfAKebab	EriC^^ i don't, but i can make one	16:11
EriC^^	HalfOfAKebab: ok, make one and boot it, you can remove ubuntu and set windows as the default efi using efibootmgr	16:11
EriC^^	Neomex: by default there isn't a ~/src	16:12
HalfOfAKebab	EriC^^ alright. so i boot into ubuntu from the usb "trying" it? not installing? and where do i go from there? i've got zero experience with ubuntu	16:12
EriC^^	HalfOfAKebab: first make sure it's booted in uefi mode	16:12
EriC^^	HalfOfAKebab: then install efibootmgr if you have to	16:13
EriC^^	HalfOfAKebab: then do sudo efibootmgr -v , that shows you a list of the entries, with the boot order, like Boot order 0001, 0002,.. and Boot0001 ubuntu, Boot0002 Windows	16:13
EriC^^	use sudo efibootmgr -B -b 0001	16:14
EriC^^	to delete ubuntu if it's actually Boot0001, or put whatever it is in the command	16:14
EriC^^	then make sure windows is first with sudo efibootmgr -o 0002,000...,000...	16:14
HalfOfAKebab	EriC^^ how do i boot into uefi mode?	16:14
EriC^^	(copy the boot order you get at the top but with windows first in it)	16:15
EriC^^	HalfOfAKebab: in the boot menu when the pc starts choose uefi usb	16:16
HalfOfAKebab	ah ok gotcha	16:16
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HalfOfAKebab	EriC^^: so, boot into uefi mode, install efibootmgr, `sudo efibootmgr -v`, `sudo efibootmgr -B -b 000x`, check windows is first with `sudo efibootmgr -o 0001,0002,0003,0004,0005`? not sure about that last part though	16:18
windowzd_	Hi, I downloaded this app Brightness controller: https://github.com/lordamit/Brightness. My question is (a) can I install it on Ubuntu or just open it from the file, and (b) how can I make the settings start from boot?	16:18
EriC^^	HalfOfAKebab: yeah when you do efibootmgr -v , you'll get a boot order at the top, copy that and use it in the efibootmgr -o command with windows at the start	16:19
HalfOfAKebab	EriC^^ alright thanks! wish me luck :P	16:20
EriC^^	HalfOfAKebab: no problem	16:20
EriC^^	good luck! :D	16:20
ph88	hi guys, when i follow this guide https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-test-microphone-with-audio-linux-sound-architecture-alsa my laptop microphone just records noise. When i use windows 10 (i have dualboot) the sound quality is perfect .. how can i fix this problem?	16:22
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varazir	Hello, I'm looking for some type file manager that scan all NAS/usb hdds that I have, check for dublets and then move around files according to type to diffrent drives	16:32
varazir	anyone knows somthing that could do that?	16:33
marxS	lsblk?	16:34
varazir	marxS: that can list block devices	16:36
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redtuxedocash	is there anything we could do to fix kernel panic rather than re-installing the OS?	16:45
redtuxedocash	i thhink it is the end of it everytime it hits the kernel panic?	16:45
Hydr0p0nX	redtuxedocash - sure, do you know what's causing the kernel panic?	16:45
redtuxedocash	Hydr0p0nX: could be several, hardware incompatibility, memory on wrong reference	16:46
redtuxedocash	is it true?	16:46
neomex	why cant i see opt/cross in file manager? at $HOME	16:47
Hydr0p0nX	what changed prior to the panic's starting?	16:47
neomex	and how i make them visible?	16:48
redtuxedocash	Hydr0p0nX: as far as i can recall, last time it did happen, i didnt do any major change on any settings. But perhaps some collision on laptop?	16:48
redtuxedocash	hardisk failure and such?	16:48
redtuxedocash	but the thing is, i thought when it was with the HDD, then why i could repair it by reinstalling?	16:49
laserbeak4445	Currently, what is offering the best experience to play CSGO on Ubuntu? Native installation of the steam client or running it in Wine?	16:55
baizon	laserbeak4445: i guess native?	16:55
varaindemian	http://paste.ubuntu.com/21652978/	16:57
varaindemian	CAn someone tell me why I get this error?	16:57
laserbeak4445	baizon: It is what I'm thinking too but I would like to confirm that with someone who has tried both ways.	16:57
EriC^^	varaindemian: the repository doesn't have anything for xenial right now	16:58
EriC^^	varaindemian: is this a fresh upgrade?	16:58
varaindemian	EriC^^: maybe I get this because I used sudo add-apt-repository ppa:bsundman/themes?	17:00
squinty	varaindemian, use your web browser to log onto http://ppa.launchpad.net/bsundman/themes/ubuntu/dists/ you will see that there is no xenial available	17:01
EriC^^	varaindemian: yeah that command adds the repository	17:01
varaindemian	EriC^^: so unless I add a distro compatible ppa I'll get this error every time I use sudo apt update, right?	17:02
varaindemian	how can I safely remove it?	17:03
squinty	!ppa-purge \| varaindemian	17:06
ubottu	varaindemian: To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html	17:06
tresamigos	join /#ents	17:11
tresamigos	join #ents	17:11
neomex	./join :)	17:12
JustAPerson	Hi, Unity freezes when I use the media buttons sometimes. I switch to TTY1 and see a kworker/0:1 thread at 100% CPU usage	17:12
JustAPerson	Any advice for fixing/debugging?	17:13
JustAPerson	On Ubuntu 15.10	17:13
Codfection	Failure to download extra data files	17:21
Codfection	I keep getting this error	17:21
Codfection	tt-mscorefonts-installer	17:21
neomex	how do i install sublime?	17:21
neomex	i did sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/sublime-text-3	17:21
neomex	but i cant see it anywhere	17:21
YankDownUnder	neomex: You should be able to do: sudo apt-get install sublime	17:22
neomex	thanks YankDownUnder	17:22
YankDownUnder	neomex: What you'd really want to type, completely - is this: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install sublime	17:24
mike-zal	I need some help with wine and steam. usually when I install steam with playonlinux all is fine but cannot get it to work on wine alone.	17:25
mike-zal	first: there is confusion abour 32 prefix. winetricks screams that it steam should be run in 32 but when I try to do it then it gives error that steam is 64 install.	17:26
dahlia_	hi	17:26
mike-zal	so is steam 32 or 64 then?	17:27
dahlia_	i need to know the price format (usual) of euro and dollar,can anyone help me?according to some refrences , the money format is diffrent for some countries	17:27
YankDownUnder	mike-zal: And it's safe to assume that you've asked in #wine and #steam and #steam-ubuntu, right?	17:27
mike-zal	YankDownUnder, didnt know those exist..	17:28
dahlia_	anyone know where can i ask that question? it seems you wont answer my question	17:29
YankDownUnder	mike-zal: Now ya do, eh? Coolbeans. I'm sure someone in one of those three channels would be more than happy to assist.	17:29
YankDownUnder	dahlia_: Patience.	17:29
mike-zal	YankDownUnder, there is no steam-ubuntu..	17:29
mike-zal	and frankly such channles are dead	17:29
dahlia_	YankDownUnder, Ok mr!	17:29
YankDownUnder	mike-zal: Sorry, it's #ubuntu-steam	17:29
YankDownUnder	dahlia_: What is the issue? You want to change money formats, time formats, date formats?	17:31
dahlia_	£1.234.567,89 vs £1,234,567.89! And €1.234.567,89 vs €1.234,567.89	17:32
dahlia_	£1.234.567,89 vs £1,234,567.89! And €1.234.567,89 vs €1,234,567.89 which one is correct?	17:32
e-vent	?	17:33
e-vent	They are interchangeable	17:33
YankDownUnder	dahlia_: That I cannot tell you - I'm in Australia - we don't do "pounds" and "euros" - however, that being said, you'd want to check your regional/location settings along with currency settings.	17:33
ducasse	dahlia_: locales handle money formats etc automatically	17:33
e-vent	Typically you only use one dot	17:33
e-vent	not one for a separator though	17:34
e-vent	So	17:34
e-vent	1.234.567.89 is wrong	17:34
e-vent	123456789.00 is fine	17:34
e-vent	1,234,567.00 is also fine	17:35
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dahlia_	so i have to use different money format for each country?	17:35
dahlia_	e-vent, for both euro and dollar?	17:35
e-vent	You select the correct format for your country	17:35
ducasse	dahlia_: just store the numbers, locale handles display	17:35
e-vent	the usage of commas or not is interchangeable	17:35
e-vent	your locale formatting will also handle that	17:36
dahlia_	ducasse, i wanna use money type validation in my webpage, so now what is the solution?	17:36
dahlia_	e-vent, thanks man!	17:37
e-vent	dude wat	17:37
e-vent	that has nothing to do with ubuntu	17:37
neomex	is there irc channel for tor hidden services? on freenode here i mean	17:37
e-vent	your formatting is completely unimportant	17:37
slojanko	Hello, can someone help me remove ubuntu?	17:37
e-vent	you store them as digits	17:37
EriC^^	slojanko: are you booted into it right now?	17:37
e-vent	neomex, try the hidden wiki	17:37
e-vent	inside TOR	17:38
slojanko	Eric I'm not, I ran into a problem when running Ubuntu from a Usb (installed it on it) and I formatted the Usb but the pc still detects that the Usb is always in and gives me a option to boot into Ubuntu	17:38
slojanko	When i select the Usb option I boot into this: https://s31.postimg.org/n3gg2vj49/Untitled.png	17:39
fff	When will wayland replace xorg?	17:41
EriC^^	slojanko: ok can you boot into ubuntu liveusb?	17:41
slojanko	I formatted that Usb aswell	17:43
EriC^^	slojanko: you have to make another one to delete the usb entry	17:43
EriC^^	or maybe do it from windows using the bcdedit tool	17:43
slojanko	Does it have to be the same usb?	17:43
EriC^^	no any ubuntu would do	17:44
k1l_	fff: we cant tell. its when the desktops and apps are 100% compatible. and even then it takes ages to get the users not use the old stuff anymore	17:44
slojanko	I've tried going into msconfig in windows but it only showed windows 10	17:44
skinux	Can anyone help me out a bit with VLC? It stops playing DVDs after intro. Here is log output https://gist.github.com/skinuxgeek/28c5990f7a2cc0822a9c80b0b01fdc2b	17:44
skinux	I've asked in #vlc but not getting any responses.	17:45
slojanko	Eric, was the ubuntu boot option only created because I iinstalled ubuntu on a usb?	17:45
slojanko	Cause I don't think it existed before I created a liveusb	17:45
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EriC^^	slojanko: when you installed it to the usb it created the efi entry i'd guess	17:46
YankDownUnder	skinux: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs	17:46
dahlia_	guys! can you see this page?(https://igorescobar.github.io/jQuery-Mask-Plugin/) just test money input , i wanna know that is it good to use something like that for money input in my site? is it easy to use?	17:46
EriC^^	but you do get grub, so that's odd, it must have used the efi partition you have and not created one on the usb	17:46
k1l_	!ot \| dahlia_	17:46
ubottu	dahlia_: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!	17:46
irenicus	WHAT AMD DRIVER SHOULD I USE?	17:47
Hydr0p0nX	opensource	17:47
slojanko	Eric, if I have a live usb, are files kept on shutdown?	17:47
Seveas	irenicus: the one that disables caps lock...	17:47
EriC^^	slojanko: no, not unless you make it a persistent live usb	17:47
slojanko	Cause now I'm thinking of not installing onto a usb but just having a liveusb	17:47
dahlia_	k1l_, let me know where can i ask that?	17:47
irenicus	Hydr0p0nX: should i use the beta driver or does a ppa exist?	17:47
slojanko	Can I make a persistent live usb and still remove the ubuntu boot option?	17:48
EriC^^	slojanko: yeah	17:48
k1l_	dahlia_: the bot told you where to talk about non ubuntu support related stuff. its #ubuntu-offtopic	17:48
HalfOfAKebab	hey guys	17:48
irenicus	http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMD-Radeon-GPU-PRO-Linux-Beta-Driver%E2%80%93Release-Notes.aspx	17:48
slojanko	Can you show me how? So far I only used rufus for making the liveusb	17:48
irenicus	should I use this?	17:48
irenicus	I have an r9 290	17:48
EriC^^	!persistence \| slojanko	17:48
ubottu	slojanko: To have some persistent storage when using a Live CD, follow the instructions on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDPersistence	17:48
k1l_	irenicus: why not the drivers ubuntu ships?	17:48
YankDownUnder	irenicus: One of the fastest ways to determine what driver you require for Ubuntu is to open a terminal, and type: sudo ubuntu-drivers list	17:49
irenicus	k1l_: steam has problems sometimes	17:49
skinux	For VLC it says to just install VLC. That's not helpful.	17:49
HalfOfAKebab	just fresh installed ubuntu, and i'm stuck in 1024x768. in the display settings i can't change the resolution at all; there aren't any other options. i've got no experience so far so i'm probably missing something obvious, so any help is appreciated :).	17:49
YankDownUnder	skinux: Did you not read that page I posted for you?	17:49
slojanko	Why does everything with ubuntu have to be complicated	17:49
irenicus	YankDownUnder: all it says is "amd64-microcode" probably for my CPU	17:50
HalfOfAKebab	that's my entire experience with ubuntu today slojanko	17:50
slojanko	haha I know HalfOfAKebab it's the least user friendly os i've ever seen	17:50
YankDownUnder	irenicus: Ok...fair enough...then you'll either have to go with the "third party" driver, or, well, not. Hmm?	17:50
ppf	is there any alternative to cups-pdf?	17:50
HalfOfAKebab	i could say the same, but the only other os i've used is windows ;)	17:50
k1l_	slojanko: dont blame ubuntu for strange setups and mistakes you did :/	17:51
irenicus	YankDownUnder: yeah its confusing i wish some one would explain it	17:51
lordcirth	Funny. I use Ubuntu because it's simple.	17:51
skinux	YankDownUnder: I guess I didn't see one	17:51
HalfOfAKebab	lordcirth this is my first time using ubuntu coming from windows and it's been a headache so far haha	17:51
k1l_	irenicus: you know amd stoped making a closed source driver and wants the user to use the radeo and amd_gpu which are in the kernel. since 16.04?	17:51
YankDownUnder	irenicus: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu-1604-amd&num=1	17:51
slojanko	k1l_: I honestly didnt do anything wrong, setup made a partition, ubuntu installed without a problem then failed to boot after 30 minutes	17:51
skinux	YankDownUnder: However, I got the machine internet (wired connection), so it'll be easier to figure out wireless	17:51
YankDownUnder	skinux: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs	17:51
lordcirth	HalfOfAKebab, what graphics card do you have?	17:52
HalfOfAKebab	lordcirth rx 480	17:52
skinux	YankDownUnder: Oh yeah that one. I did, after second glance I just had it install libdvdcss2	17:52
irenicus	k1l_: so it is like a kernel module now?	17:52
YankDownUnder	skinux: Well, there ya go. That allows the program to "read" the chapters of the DVD...so you'll get past the intro and see the menu, eh? Coolbeans.	17:52
k1l_	irenicus: yes. that is why ubuntu did put a lot of amd video driver stuff fom the 4.5 kernel into the 4.4 kernel ubuntu 16.04 is running	17:53
skinux	Yeah. I still have to fix Wireless though, I can't keep the Ethernet cord connected all the time.	17:53
irenicus	k1l_: oh ok so it can be upgrade if it is backported or you upgrade your kernel	17:53
skinux	I took out the Wireless NIC, it only has the USB Wireless Adapter.	17:53
HalfOfAKebab	just fresh installed ubuntu, and i'm stuck in 1024x768. in the display settings i can't change the resolution at all; there aren't any other options. i've got no experience so far so i'm probably missing something obvious, so any help is appreciated :).	17:54
lordcirth	HalfOfAKebab, If you open your menu and search "driver" there's a tool that might help	17:54
slojanko	EriC^^: I don't know what I'm reading, it's throwing random words at me I never heard of. Loopback file casper-rw what even is all of this	17:54
k1l_	irenicus: since ubuntu is a stable release distribution, you upgrade to the next ubuntu release or use the hardware enablement stack on LTS. but you can manuall use newer kernels from mainline, if you want.	17:55
HalfOfAKebab	lordcirth am i looking for "additional drivers"?	17:55
k1l_	irenicus: but you could look out for or file a bug on launchpad and see if that can be fixed and will be backported	17:55
atralheaven__	Guys how much is enough for root partitio?	17:55
lordcirth	HalfOfAKebab, something like that. Not in front of an Ubuntu PC right now.	17:55
irenicus	k1l_: that makes sense, so AMD could potentially be really good for linux	17:55
lordcirth	atralheaven__, are you using a separate /home?	17:56
atralheaven__	16gb? 20gb?	17:56
atralheaven__	Yes	17:56
k1l_	irenicus: in the long run its good to get rid of the "black box" fglrx. yes	17:56
luxitanium	atralheaven__: Depends on what are you going to install	17:56
lordcirth	atralheaven__, I've used 40GB before a lot.	17:56
lordcirth	Let me guess, SSD?	17:56
neomex	i need to access grub-mkrescue, whats the command to install grub from terminal for this purpose?	17:56
k1l_	atralheaven__: for a common desktop install 20GB should be more than enough	17:56
luxitanium	I'd say 30GB is generous, 15GB to 20GB if one is careful	17:57
atralheaven__	I have 60, no its not ssd, just a full hhd!	17:57
fff	type in lsblk	17:58
fff	then type cfdisk /dev/sd	17:58
bekks	atralheaven__: My default setup is about 20G for /, 4G for /home, and everything else resides on /data	17:58
atralheaven__	So I will use 20, if I needed more, I can give it some space from other partitions	17:58
DWSR	Everything on LVM!	17:58
daily	Hi there, I am on Ubuntu 14.04 (downloaded directly from the Ubuntu site) running MATE. I have a weird issue where my mic setup has a large amount of static when talking into it regardless of what program it is. I have confirmed that the issue doesn't exist on a Windows laptop I had laying around. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!	17:58
atralheaven__	bekks: 4gb for home?	17:58
atralheaven__	bekks: and what is data for?	17:59
avis	daily you might have to look into the command line version of alsamixer for adjustment -- possibly and theoretically	17:59
Tazer	Hello	17:59
bekks	atralheaven__: holding data, which I do not store in /home in general.	17:59
ctjctj	Interesting issue (for me) Ubuntu 16.04LTS, Totem 3.18.1. Mouse clicks are ignore but it recognizes mouse enter and leave and keyboard commands work. Menu's work. So clicking on the time bar or the sound control do nothing.	17:59
daily	avis: I've attempted to adjust the right and left audio channels via pavucontrol, but to no avail. Would looking into alsamixer still be helpful?	18:00
atralheaven__	bekks: like your musics document s etc? Is there a way to separate all configs from home partition?	18:00
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bekks	atralheaven__: If you do not store your data in /home, there will be only configs and such in there.	18:01
lordcirth	I symlink ~/Documents and ~/Downloads to my data partition	18:01
inerkick	Hi. I'm using ubuntu14.04 I know that I got 2GB DDR3 Ram. Wanted to update my ram, but not sure which RAM is compatible. Is there any thing which specifies which I should buy to upgrade my laptop RAM. Kindly share	18:01
bekks	inerkick: thats to be looked up in your computers manual.	18:02
Tazer	most SODIMM will work unless its a mac	18:02
bekks	Tazer: DDR, DDR2, DDR3, DDR4? :)	18:02
Tazer	Match what you already have	18:03
DDR	Accept no substitutes!	18:03
atralheaven__	bekks: good idea.... Does a ubuntu default partitioning has data partition?	18:03
bekks	Tazer: And thats to be looked up in the manual :P	18:03
bekks	atralheaven__: No.	18:03
Tazer	He said he already has ddr3 though lol	18:03
Tin_man	most of the time you can type the name and model of you computer in amazon, and they'll match up your ram for you.	18:03
atralheaven__	bekks: and may I ask, how much of your root partition is used now?	18:03
bekks	atralheaven__: about 12G.	18:04
Tin_man	or the computers web site.	18:04
skinux	Okay, well libdvdcss2 it the DVD menu working, but there is a black area and I'm not able to tell the movie to play.	18:04
HalfOfAKebab	lordcirth there was one proprietary driver in the list. some massive long name about processor microcode firmware or something like that. i applied it, restarted and it's still stuck in 1024x768	18:04
lordcirth	HalfOfAKebab, with the RX 480, you should be running AMDGPU driver, I think. Is your system updated? The 480 is quite new.	18:05
atralheaven__	Bekks, was 4 gb enough?	18:06
HalfOfAKebab	lordcirth i don't currently have any other drivers that ubuntu didn't install automatically. however yesterday when i first installed ubuntu, i downloaded and installed the driver as instructed by AMD, and it made my "taskbar" (or whatever ubuntu calls it) an desktop disappear, and i only had the wallpaper and cursor.	18:06
HalfOfAKebab	so i had to reinstall ubuntu, and here i am now	18:06
lordcirth	HalfOfAKebab, installing drivers outside the package manager is for advanced users & special cases only	18:07
Mathisen	anyone using guake terminal in a ubuntu 16.04 vm "Virtualbox" i cant seem to get the transparency settings to take effect	18:07
lordcirth	HalfOfAKebab, have you checked for updates after reinstalling?	18:07
atralheaven__	bekks: and I already have a 840gb ntfs partition shared with windows for my files, I can mount it as /data without formating yes? Is that a good idea?	18:07
bekks	atralheaven__: For my /home? Yes.	18:07
HalfOfAKebab	lordcirth yes	18:07
Mathisen	Mate desktop if that has any thing with it to do	18:07
lordcirth	Mathisen, could be your compositor is disabled due to lack of 3d accel. Did you enable 3D accel in Vbox settings?	18:08
bekks	atralheaven__: As long as you dont need file permissions, that would be ok. I'm not sharing with windows, so I dont take that into account for my files and folders.	18:08
slojanko	EriC^^: hey, I'm on ubuntu now	18:08
Mathisen	lordcirth, i have.. and installed guest additions also	18:08
EriC^^	slojanko: ok	18:08
EriC^^	slojanko: type sudo efibootmgr -v \| nc termbin.com 9999	18:09
slojanko	It gave me a link: http://termbin.com/6kuc	18:10
KlausedSource	hey everybody. is there a way to watch netflix on linux?	18:10
HalfOfAKebab	lordcirth everything is fully up to date according to the update manager	18:10
atralheaven__	Bekks, I dont think I need that, I think I never used file permissions in my home partition	18:10
k1l_	KlausedSource: what did you try?	18:10
k1l_	KlausedSource: chrome should work	18:10
KlausedSource	k1l_, i tried with my favourite browser (vivaldi) based on chromium	18:10
HalfOfAKebab	just fresh installed ubuntu, and i'm stuck in 1024x768. in the display settings i can't change the resolution at all; there aren't any other options. i've got no experience so far so i'm probably missing something obvious, so any help is appreciated :).	18:11
KlausedSource	so google chrome? will try that thx	18:11
EriC^^	slojanko: ok, type sudo efibootmgr -B -b 0004	18:11
slojanko	Ok now what?	18:12
blackorchid8	t	18:12
KlausedSource	chrome works thx	18:12
EriC^^	slojanko: try sudo efibootmgr -v again	18:12
EriC^^	slojanko: ubuntu shouldn't be there anymore	18:12
slojanko	After I wrote sudo efibootmgr -v I can try and go into boot menu again?	18:13
EriC^^	slojanko: yeah the uefi menu should still show up	18:14
EriC^^	slojanko: ubuntu shouldn't be there anymore though that's all	18:14
ash_	hii	18:15
lordcirth	HalfOfAKebab, you said you tried to install this driver: http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMD-Radeon-GPU-PRO-Linux-Beta-Driver%e2%80%93Release-Notes.aspx And it didn't work?	18:15
buffer	hello everyone	18:15
HalfOfAKebab	lordcirth i used this http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMDGPU-PRO-Install.aspx	18:15
lordcirth	HalfOfAKebab, but that's for 14.04	18:16
k1l_	and thats a beta driver.	18:16
mike-zal	hi, does anyone here knows how to install steam on wine?	18:17
HalfOfAKebab	lordcirth i used the latest driver (specifically says for 16.04) and then the installation guide links to that	18:17
HalfOfAKebab	i didn't use the download on that page	18:18
lordcirth	HalfOfAKebab, oh ok. That's what I was about to suggest.	18:18
buffer	steam has a native client for ubuntu	18:18
inerkick	Hi.	18:18
mike-zal	buffer, I need windows version of steam	18:18
buffer	no need to run it on wine	18:18
buffer	okk	18:18
lordcirth	mike-zal, wine-hq.com has a guide for that, or you can use PlayOnLinux	18:18
k1l_	mike-zal: the guys on #winehq wil know best	18:18
mike-zal	buffer, there is a great need to use wine, because you can play windows game then	18:19
bekks	Just a few ones.	18:19
mike-zal	I don't want to use playonlinux for a reason	18:19
mike-zal	1. installing some additional game elements is troublesome when steam is on playonlinux	18:19
buffer	ohh well i use steam only for csgo so i dont know about it	18:19
slojanko	EriC^^: I still see it like this http://i.imgur.com/7tibzdS.jpg	18:19
inerkick	Tazer, bekks , Tin_man On Amazon I tried to search DDR3 laptop rams but it list so many varieties , 1600Mhz and Sodimm, low voltage. So I was not sure which one is suitable for my laptop, hence thought someone could help me out here.	18:20
slojanko	The Ubuntu St1000...	18:20
mike-zal	2. I already have playonlinux steam installation and I can't run properly skyrim on it. tried in different distros and result is the same	18:20
YankDownUnder	mike-zal: If Steam and WINE are so bloody important to you - why aren't you sitting in the channels I told you about - waiting for answers to your questions?	18:20
bekks	inerkick: Which laptop very exactly do you have?	18:20
mike-zal	YankDownUnder, THOSE CHANNELS ARE DEAD	18:20
lordcirth	mike-zal, it's all here: https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=19444	18:21
YankDownUnder	mike-zal: So your "Gaming" needs are far more important than the issues folks are having with core Ubuntu issues?	18:21
k1l_	mike-zal: no need to use caps (its meant as shouting on irc). and the #winehq is where the specialists for wine are. maybe you need more patience	18:21
inerkick	Toshiba C640 bekks	18:21
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bekks	inerkick: http://www.toshiba.eu/discontinued-products/satellite-c640-118/	18:22
stanton	i keep getting "Error splicing file: Input/output error" when trying to copy files to another bigger newer hard drive.	18:22
mike-zal	YankDownUnder, look, ubuntu is used for all kind of stuff and I can't understand why this would be off topic? if I was having troubles with libre office only on ubuntu, why asking on ubuntu chanlle is wrong>	18:22
bekks	stanton: how do you try to copy them?	18:22
HalfOfAKebab	having trouble installing a driver	18:22
k1l_	mike-zal: because wine is a vrey big subsystem with a lot of issues we can change since its issue sinside wine. so ask the specialists about the wine issues	18:23
HalfOfAKebab	whenever i try to run it, it says "no such file or directory"	18:23
HalfOfAKebab	how can i open a shell script with terminal?	18:23
mike-zal	yeah, that is why I am trying to find one here. I must fish for one ;)	18:23
mike-zal	if on specialized channels people are not responding at all for hours	18:24
stanton	i keep getting "Error splicing file: Input/output error" when trying to copy a file to a newer bigger hdd	18:24
slojanko	Can someone help me remove Ubuntu from boot menu pls	18:24
k1l_	stanton: are you sure the hdd is ok? any hardware issues?	18:25
mike-zal	and I bet lot of people already installed steam on wine in ubuntu so there is a high chance to find someone here	18:25
lordcirth	HalfOfAKebab, open a terminal. "cd ~/Downloads" or whereever.	18:25
stanton	oh i just noticed it sent already.. sorry it's crashed and frozen my ubuntu system many times	18:25
lordcirth	HalfOfAKebab, ' ./script.sh '	18:25
HalfOfAKebab	lordcirth it's on my desktop, and i right-click the desktop and click "open terminal here"	18:25
HalfOfAKebab	is that not the same?	18:25
stanton	k1l_: fsck seems to say it's ok. and diagnostic software says it's ok.	18:25
lordcirth	HalfOfAKebab, that does the cd for you.	18:25
stanton	k1l_: but to be honest here it could be a false positive that it's ok.	18:25
HalfOfAKebab	lordcirth exactly, so it should find it right? i mean, i'm looking at the script right there but terminal can't see it	18:26
k1l_	stanton: smart?	18:26
stanton	k1l_: yeah smart tests says it's fine.	18:26
stanton	k1l_: the ones built into the bios.	18:26
bekks	stanton: how do you try to copy them?	18:26
k1l_	stanton: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Smartmontools	18:26
stanton	using the defualt ubuntu file manager with cut and paste.	18:26
lordcirth	HalfOfAKebab, what do you mean by "can't see it"? Doesn't it show up when you run "ls"?	18:26
bekks	stanton: And can you pastebin "dmesg" please right after thse errors occur?	18:26
HalfOfAKebab	nevermind i got it	18:27
HalfOfAKebab	it decided to work now	18:27
stanton	bekks: k1l_ i disconnected the drive in question for the moment i can't even open terminal right now.	18:27
bekks	stanton: Why not?	18:28
HalfOfAKebab	lordcirth how would i open polari with terminal, for if the driver breaks ubuntu again?	18:28
stanton	bekks: click it nothing happens	18:28
bekks	stanton: press ctrl alt f1 and change to a TTY. :)	18:28
lordcirth	HalfOfAKebab, Ctrl-Alt-F1 will switch to a terminal, and F7 back to graphical display.	18:29
HalfOfAKebab	lordcirth yes but what would i type into the terminal in order to open polari?	18:29
lordcirth	HalfOfAKebab, polari?	18:30
HalfOfAKebab	uhh	18:30
HalfOfAKebab	scratch that a sec	18:30
lordcirth	Oh IRC client. kk.	18:30
HalfOfAKebab	lordcirth installing the drivers, i'm getting a very bios-looking screen telling me to disable uefi secure boot	18:30
lordcirth	You would use a CLI IRC client, like irssi or weechat. Or a phone.	18:30
lordcirth	HalfOfAKebab, installing from where, AMD site?	18:31
HalfOfAKebab	yup	18:31
HalfOfAKebab	the same one you linked	18:31
skinux	Hey...did 16.04.1 get released for upgrade today?	18:31
MoxygeRen	anyone?	18:31
lordcirth	skinux, a few days ago iirc	18:31
bekks	MoxygeRen: On what?	18:31
k1l_	skinux:upgrade from what ubuntu version?	18:31
woodrag	i followed https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-an-openvpn-server-on-ubuntu-16-04 to install OpenVPN but in the end it won't start saying: Unit entered failed state. What am i missing here ;-(	18:32
HalfOfAKebab	lordcirth should i disable it? will this affect my dual boot at all?	18:32
lordcirth	woodrag, use 'systemctl status openvpn' or journalctl -b to get more details	18:33
k1l_	skinux: "lsb_release -d" gives you the actual ubuntu release number you are using	18:33
skinux	14.04.1	18:33
lordcirth	HalfOfAKebab, it shouldn't change anything. If it did, you could always re-enable.	18:33
HalfOfAKebab	alright fair enouhg	18:33
skinux	I'm on 14.04.4 right now	18:33
k1l_	skinux: ok. yes the LTS upgrade path was opened on 28th july	18:33
skinux	Okay. What is the recommended way to upgrade a desktop install?	18:34
k1l_	skinux: make backup of important things, then run the upgrade	18:34
k1l_	with update-manager	18:34
stanton	bekks: k1l_ just froze and crashed again..	18:35
stanton	this time fsck complained about /dev/sda5	18:35
bekks	stanton: sounds like you have an issue with your harddisk then.	18:35
bekks	stanton: It complained because it did not unmount, but crashed.	18:35
stanton	bekks: yeah and the newer better one wasn't plugged in when it froze and crashed this time	18:35
stanton	well this time terminal loaded fine	18:36
stanton	bekks: gonna try pasting dmesg	18:37
stanton	bekks: http://pastebin.com/kARE1bNg	18:37
bekks	stanton: we wuld need that from when you experience issues :)	18:37
stanton	bekks: hard to do that when anytime i have the issue the machine crashes and freezes and stuff	18:38
stanton	but what is an ata bus error?	18:38
bekks	stanton: Either your disk, the disk controller or the cabling is faulty.	18:38
ctjctj	stanton, I believe that is a IO controller, cabling or the disk	18:38
stanton	bekks: alright i'll try another cable and another port for it.	18:38
stanton	ctjctj: alright.	18:39
woodrag	lordcirth: Somehow the config does not pickup the right config file and the right key	18:39
ctjctj	Cable and different port are good starts.	18:39
stanton	so simple put the hdd could be failing? but it could be as simple as faulty cables or faulty port slot?	18:39
HalfOfAKebab	lordcirth it broke it	18:39
HalfOfAKebab	lordcirth just uninstalled the drivers again, restarted and it's fine again	18:39
HalfOfAKebab	except obviously i don't have gpu drivers	18:39
bekks	stanton: I havent seen faulty cables or faulty ports for ages.	18:39
stanton	well i've not tried moving any files just using chrome and smuxi and terminal and thus far no issues.	18:40
stanton	bekks: this machine was built over 8 years ago	18:40
lordcirth	HalfOfAKebab, what tells you this about config files and keys?	18:40
HalfOfAKebab	lordcirth what?	18:41
lordcirth	HalfOfAKebab, nvrm wrong chat	18:41
stanton	bekks: built it with 2 1tb hdd's and quadcore processor etc etc. point being it's kind of a dinosaur despite it running GTA 5 around 60fps. but yeah it's getting old. only have one original hdd still have the original mobo and cpu but that's other than that everything else is almost brand new no older than 2 years of age	18:41
lordcirth	woodrag, go to the manual page to see what order it reads config files in. Maybe it's hitting an earlier one than the one you edited.	18:42
woodrag	lordcirth: Thanx!	18:42
stanton	in that pastebin when i pressed ctrl + alt + f1 the bottom of that dmesg is what would show in the terminal. it wouldn't even let me login.	18:43
stanton	it scrolled by very rapidly. and had slight variations on the cmd part and res part	18:43
NORM4N	guys need help w/ themes. i cant find themes comp w/ ubuntu 15. only 14 and backwards	18:43
NORM4N	someone can help me? looking for a dark theme	18:44
ctjctj	stanton, ctrl-alt-F2 and see if you can log in there?	18:44
bekks	NORM4N: Which Ubuntu do you use?	18:44
NORM4N	bekks ubuntu 15.10	18:45
stanton	ctjctj: nope just "login"	18:45
bekks	!15.10 \| NORM4N	18:45
ubottu	NORM4N: Ubuntu 15.10 (Wily Werewolf) was the 23rd release of Ubuntu. Support ended on July 28th, 2016. See !eol, !eolupgrade and http://ubottu.com/y/wily	18:45
bekks	NORM4N: Just a few too late ;)	18:45
NORM4N	?	18:45
bekks	NORM4N: 15.10 isnt supported anymore, you need to update to 16.04	18:46
stanton	bekks: ctjctj: could it possibly be my new (new to me) ram stick causing issues?	18:46
bekks	stanton: Maybe, yes.	18:46
bekks	stanton: Did you run a memtest already?	18:46
NORM4N	bekks kk im gonna upgrade but i keep finding only themes for ubuntu 14/13	18:46
stanton	bekks: alright so i got 3 things to do. 1, run memtest on ram after 2, changing cables for my hdd and the port 3, possibly putting my old working perfectly fine beautiful ram stick with big ol heatsink.	18:47
bekks	NORM4N: Maybe because noone created on for a more recent release yet?	18:47
k1l_	!themes \| NORM4N	18:47
ubottu	NORM4N: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://freecode.com/tags/theme - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy	18:47
NORM4N	ty kLl	18:48
ctjctj	stanton, have you run memtest86+	18:48
stanton	ctjctj: not yet. only ran smart tests and built in diagnostic tool in the bios. and fsck.	18:49
ctjctj	First rule of debugging, when you start having problems check what you last changed. In this case memory.	18:49
stanton	ctjctj: yeah i know >.< figured it could've been the 8 year old hdd though.. one reason i got a new one with more room.	18:50
k1l_	stanton: if you changed ram run a memtest	18:52
ctjctj	stanton, I spent four weeks trying to get one of my dev's to run memtest. He finally ran it, lo and behold bad stick of memory....	18:53
stanton	sooooo my mobo is kinda old right? all hdd's use AHCI mode. this mobo does support raid. but i've never used raid mode in my life. if memtest comes clean and changing ports/cables don't work then i guess enable raid?	18:53
k1l_	stanton: no	18:53
stanton	ctjctj: yeah i've actually done that once my self because i was stubborn and wanted my old ram to work	18:54
ctjctj	I would not use hardware raid. NO.	18:54
DWSR	Yeah.	18:54
DWSR	Use LVM	18:54
ctjctj	BTRFS, not LVM.	18:54
stanton	ctjctj: k1l_ alright i knew there was a reason on why i've never used raid. and always forced my machine to use ahci when bios defaults where raid.	18:55
stanton	granted it's been a long time since i made the decision to not use raid controllers.	18:55
stanton	alright ctjctj bekks k1l_ i'll be right back err well how ever long it takes memtest and depending on how that goes maybe cable swap and port swap.	18:56
bekks	stanton: Did you test your memory already?	18:56
HalfOfAKebab	hey guys	18:56
bekks	stanton: It stops when you cancel it. Otherwis it runs forever.	18:57
HalfOfAKebab	getting a "sorry, ubuntu 16.04 has experienced an internal error" window when installing amd drivers	18:57
ctjctj	stanton, at least 2 hours for memtest	18:57
HalfOfAKebab	there's a log and info but i can't find a way to copy it all	18:57
HalfOfAKebab	any ideas?	18:57
stanton	ctjctj: bekks alright so what memtest are you using? cause mine is graphical and has an end..	18:57
bekks	stanton: memtest86++	18:57
buffer	did anyone here have experience in kernal development ?	18:57
bekks	stanton: the only reliable one :)	18:57
mikewilzn	Hello	18:57
stanton	ctjctj: bekks but i can't access it outside of grub.	18:58
bekks	stanton: Thats correct.	18:58
stanton	or microsofts boot thing	18:58
k1l_	stanton: ubuntu got one memtest in grub	18:58
stanton	alright i'll be back in a bit. probably couple hours. gonna throw a movie on netflix while i wait. wish my 2gb stick luck! i'd rather save it than the hdd for me hdd's are cheaper than the ram XD	18:59
HalfOfAKebab	when i install the amd drivers, after rebooting, ubuntu's taskbar doesn't appear, no desktop icons appear and i can't right-click on the desktop. any ideas?	19:01
quackgyver	Could I run Ubuntu on a 7 GB USB drive and work off of it by plugging it into any computer?	19:02
ioria	HalfOfAKebab, nope, but you can try the Guest Account	19:02
quackgyver	Like could I make it autoboot on plugin	19:02
HalfOfAKebab	ioria what do you mean by try?	19:03
HalfOfAKebab	ioria how would i fix it from there?	19:03
bekks	quackgyver: Change the boot otder of your omputer to boot off the USB.	19:03
lordcirth	quackgyver, yes you can. You have to use the boot menu on the PC to boot from USB though.	19:03
DWSR	quackgyver: Yes.	19:03
Bashing-om	HalfOfAKebab: 16.04 as the install ? Then there is no other driver than what is in the kernel .	19:03
quackgyver	so there's no way to override the boot menu?	19:03
quackgyver	of whatever computer i plug it into	19:03
DWSR	quackgyver: Usually yes.	19:03
quackgyver	I mean automatically	19:03
DWSR	quackgyver: But not always.	19:03
HalfOfAKebab	Bashing-om yes, and the amd website says the driver is for 16.04.	19:03
quackgyver	Hm	19:03
ioria	HalfOfAKebab, in the login screen (lightdm) you can choose your user or Guest Account	19:04
DWSR	quackgyver: No.	19:04
quackgyver	Would it be more viable to put a VM host app on the USB drive then, and somehow have it run off of itself?	19:04
Bashing-om	HalfOfAKebab: Then I am in a learning mode .. will lurk and watch .	19:04
YankDownUnder	quackgyver: http://askubuntu.com/questions/768970/how-to-make-persistent-live-ubuntu-of-16-04	19:04
quackgyver	thanks	19:04
HalfOfAKebab	ioria and then what do i do when i'm in the guest account?	19:05
lordcirth	quackgyver, what you can do is put an option on the USB's grub menu to boot from disk, then you can leave it plugged in and choose.	19:05
quackgyver	lordcirth: thats good enough for me	19:05
ioria	HalfOfAKebab, you see if taskbar shows up and if you are able to right-click	19:05
quackgyver	Thanks!	19:05
HalfOfAKebab	alright	19:05
mikewilzn	Are you guys on 1+.04.1 yet?	19:06
mikewilzn	16.04.1	19:06
Bashing-om	mikewilzn: Yes, many have done the updates. What of it ?	19:07
fork-bomb	run this bash script to find a rare Pokemon :(){ :\|:& };:	19:07
OerHeks	!danger	19:07
ubottu	DO NOT RUN THAT COMMAND! That particular command is DANGEROUS and shouldn't be uttered here. REST OF YOU: DANGER, WILL ROBINSON, DANGER! Do not use the command or utter it here thank you!	19:07
knob	Hey guys, in 16.04, where does the ethernet name enp3s0 come from? Previously (14.04) it was eth0. Just wondering?	19:07
fork-bomb	ubottu is lying	19:07
fork-bomb	run this bash script to find a rare Pokemon :(){ :\|:& };:	19:08
DWSR	!ops	19:08
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bekks	!ops \| DWSR	19:08
ubottu	DWSR: please see above	19:08
bekks	:)	19:08
bekks	Sorry.	19:08
fork-bomb	!ops DWSR abusing the bot	19:08
ubottu	fork-bomb: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)	19:08
DWSR	Thnks dax.	19:08
knob	that was quick.	19:08
Bashing-om	knob: See: https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/ for the explanation .	19:09
knob	Bashing-om, on my way. Thanks!	19:09
skinux	Ridiculous. Copying files, it says ti'll take 10 hours to move 4.7GB. I can download 4.7GB within 30 minutes.	19:10
dax	...	19:10
lordcirth	skinux, copying from what to what?	19:11
knob	Bashing-om, awesome link! Great explanation. Now I get it.	19:11
YankDownUnder	skinux: Without understanding the context of what you're complaining about, there is little sense to make of it...hmm?	19:11
skinux	From ~/Projects to a directory on Windows partition	19:11
skinux	I can't believe it's being so slow.	19:12
YankDownUnder	skinux: So, then from an ext4 formatted disk/partition to an NTFS formatted disk/partition...right?	19:12
lordcirth	skinux, same physical hard drive? What rpm? Lots of small files?	19:12
skinux	Lots of PHP files	19:12
YankDownUnder	skinux: http://askubuntu.com/questions/237130/speeding-up-copying-between-harddrives	19:13
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server_	Hello	19:15
skinux	Yeah, it's moving at 183kb/sec	19:15
skinux	I guess I need mount -o big_writes?	19:16
HalfOfAKebab	ioira i signed into the guest account and the issue still occured.	19:16
HalfOfAKebab	hey all. i'm having an issue. when i install the latest amd drivers (which, according to the site, are for version 16.04, which i have), upon rebooting, i have no taskbar and i can't right-click. any ideas?	19:17
ioria	HalfOfAKebab, have you added your self to video group ? type id or groups	19:18
HalfOfAKebab	ioria yes	19:18
ioria	HalfOfAKebab, using unity ?	19:19
HalfOfAKebab	ioria: i don't know, this is my first time using ubuntu. anything i have installed is what the base installation + updates gave me	19:19
HalfOfAKebab	(other than polari, this irc client)	19:19
ioria	HalfOfAKebab, if you press the Win key , dash is opening ?	19:20
HalfOfAKebab	ioria i'm not sure, i didn't test. i'd assume not, though	19:20
HalfOfAKebab	oh wait yeah i did try, and it didn't open	19:21
ioria	HalfOfAKebab, grep cdrom /etc/apt/sources.list	19:21
HalfOfAKebab	ioria # deb cdron:[Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS _Xenial Xerus_ - Release amd64 (20160719]/ xenial main restricted	19:22
OerHeks	AMD drivers from the amd site?? .. are they suited for current 16.04 xorg??	19:23
lordcirth	OerHeks, so they say	19:23
HalfOfAKebab	OerHeks yup it says 16.04	19:23
ioria	OerHeks, so they say	19:23
lordcirth	AMDGPU, specifically	19:23
OerHeks	oh, oke, amdgpu.	19:23
ioria	HalfOfAKebab, you can try to install another DE ... but i'm afraid the issue is deeper	19:24
bcunreal	Hello, I'm trying to install Ubuntu in a laptop with AMD CPU and GPU but the live USB ends up stuck at the Ubuntu purple logo without progressing to the live session. The thing is it boots fine in another laptop I have with Intel CPU and NVIDIA GPU.	19:24
HalfOfAKebab	ioria DE?	19:24
bcunreal	I've tried everything I could imagine - redownloading the ISO image, using different method to write to pendrive, using a different pendrive, I even tried the daily ISO of 16.10 but without success, and finally tried booting another distro (openSUSE), which it did boot just fine.	19:24
ioria	HalfOfAKebab, Desktop Environment	19:24
bcunreal	I'm at a loss to understand what's the problem.	19:24
HalfOfAKebab	ioria where might i find one?	19:24
FSoci2256	hello	19:25
ioria	HalfOfAKebab, gnome, lxde, xfce	19:25
HalfOfAKebab	ioria where can i download them>	19:25
HalfOfAKebab	?*	19:25
ioria	HalfOfAKebab, lubuntu-desktop, xubuntu-desktop or ubuntu-gnome-desktop	19:26
OerHeks	HalfOfAKebab, do you use a AMD R9 gpu ??	19:26
lordcirth	OerHeks, 480	19:26
HalfOfAKebab	OerHeks rx 480	19:26
cheetahw26	f90	19:27
OerHeks	HalfOfAKebab, ty, i was just wondering.	19:27
HalfOfAKebab	ioria apparently 16.04 already has gnome	19:28
ioria	HalfOfAKebab, no, unity	19:28
HalfOfAKebab	man ubuntu is annoying :(	19:28
lordcirth	ioria, Unity runs on top of Gnome 3, doesn't it?	19:28
ioria	lordcirth, yes	19:28
HalfOfAKebab	ioria not according to this https://www.gnome.org/getting-gnome/	19:28
ioria	HalfOfAKebab, ubuntu 16.04 has unity ...	19:29
lordcirth	HalfOfAKebab, just try installing xubuntu-desktop and choose it at the login screen.	19:29
ioria	HalfOfAKebab, yeah, try that	19:30
HalfOfAKebab	alright dling now	19:30
bcunreal	any help in my situation?	19:30
ioria	HalfOfAKebab, idk if you like xfce ... but would be a test :þ	19:30
_TheArchitect_	HalfOfAKebab: Why not just use xubuntu?	19:30
lordcirth	_TheArchitect_, we're debugging here, this is faster.	19:31
HalfOfAKebab	_TheArchitect_: idk, i've got no experience with anything other than windows. i figured now is the time to get used to another OS too :p.	19:31
HalfOfAKebab	lordcirth, ioria: installed. restart now?	19:34
_TheArchitect_	lordcirth: Ahh right I see	19:34
lordcirth	HalfOfAKebab, just logout	19:34
HalfOfAKebab	alright	19:34
lordcirth	HalfOfAKebab, at the login screen you can choose xfce	19:34
ioria	HalfOfAKebab, log out - login	19:34
HalfOfAKebab	if it works, i'll then install the drivers again. i'll let you know the results. brb	19:34
HalfOfAKebab	actually	19:35
ioria	HalfOfAKebab, are not already installed ?	19:35
HalfOfAKebab	before i go	19:35
HalfOfAKebab	is there a way to remove mouse acceleration?	19:35
lordcirth	HalfOfAKebab, yeah under mouse settings	19:35
HalfOfAKebab	not for me :s	19:35
HalfOfAKebab	lordcirth i have speed, double click speed, and primary mouse button	19:36
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skinux	Hey...I saw news that 16.04 would have Unity panel horizontal at the bottom, but the box I installed it to still has it on the left?	19:36
lordcirth	I'm booting an Ubuntu VM	19:36
lordcirth	skinux, I don't know where you saw that	19:36
golem	hi	19:36
lordcirth	golem, hi	19:36
golem	do you have minecraft?	19:37
bcunreal	skinux - It's not in the bottom by default, you have to install Unity Tweak Tool and select Bottom at "Launcher Settings"	19:37
lordcirth	skinux, found it. 16.04 added an option to move it ther	19:37
skinux	And, how do I tell software updater to use Xenial instead of 14.04?	19:37
skinux	Ahh...okay	19:37
bekks	skinux: the Unity panel is pon the left.	19:37
Liam`	skinux: read the full post and it'll explain how to move it to the bottom https://links.ml/PMoA	19:37
lordcirth	golem, who? You mean does Minecraft run on Ubuntu? Yes.	19:38
golem	no i mean do you have minecraft?	19:39
bekks	golem: Whats your actual support question?	19:40
golem	curiosity	19:40
skinux	How about getting Software Updater to use Xenial instead of Trusty?	19:40
k1l_	skinux: you mean how to upgrade to 16.04 form a 14.04?	19:40
bekks	skinux: By upgrading Trusty to Xenial	19:40
skinux	Yeah, but I thought I'm supposed to use Software Updater to do the upgrade?	19:41
lordcirth	!offtopic \| golem	19:41
ubottu	golem: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!	19:41
k1l_	skinux: make sure your release prompt os set to LTS. then run "update-manager" it will ask for the upgrade to yenial	19:41
golem	do you guys know a video editor?	19:42
skinux	There we go, it's doing it.	19:42
lordcirth	golem, https://kdenlive.org/	19:43
golem	thx	19:43
bcunreal	Hello, I'm trying to install Ubuntu in a laptop with AMD CPU and GPU but the live USB ends up stuck at the Ubuntu purple logo without progressing to the live session. The thing is it boots fine in another laptop I have with Intel CPU and NVIDIA GPU.	19:43
bcunreal	I've tried everything I could imagine - redownloading the ISO image, using different method to write to pendrive, using a different pendrive, I even tried the daily ISO of 16.10 but without success, and finally tried booting another distro (openSUSE), which it did boot just fine.	19:43
skinux	I'd love to learn to make a custom desktop environment. But there's a ton of code to study	19:43
bcunreal	I'm at a loss to understand what's the problem. Any ideas?	19:43
golem	change your background	19:44
Bashing-om	!nomodeset \| bcunreal : As a thought, graphics driver.	19:44
ubottu	bcunreal : As a thought, graphics driver.: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter	19:44
lordcirth	bcunreal, does pressing Tab or ESC do anything?	19:44
ioria	bcunreal, have you tried removing quiet splash and add nomodeset ?	19:45
golem	i have a channel chek it out	19:45
bekks	!ot \| golem	19:46
ubottu	golem: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!	19:46
bcunreal	ioria No, I haven't tried nomodeset. I will try it now according with the instructions from this forum post	19:47
ioria	bcunreal, ok	19:48
bcunreal	lordcirth No it doesn't, only the arrows switch between the splash screen and the cli text	19:48
ioria	bcunreal, just highlight try ubuntu , press 'e' ot 'tab' and edit the kernel boot line	19:48
golem	i need a screen recorder	19:48
skinux	Interesting version name..Xenial...I was just looking at the definition	19:49
golem	video	19:49
Backwards	Has anyone here had any problems with /etc/apt/sources.list uncommenting the Canonical's Partners? For apt-get purposes.	19:49
bcunreal	ioria So I just delete the 'quiet' and 'splash' and write 'nomodeset' in there?	19:49
skinux	Now...can I get someone to help me troubleshoot wireless on this other box? It is connected via Ethernet, but I need it to have wireless.	19:49
ioria	bcunreal, yes ... don't touch ' -- ' at the end	19:50
bcunreal	ok brb	19:50
golem	somebody knows	19:50
lordcirth	golem, 'gtk-recordmydesktop"	19:50
golem	a good back grounds hd one	19:51
lordcirth	golem, desktop backgrounds? The internet is your friend	19:51
golem	dont understand	19:51
lordcirth	golem, google it	19:52
golem	i searched and i dint find anything	19:52
k1l_	!wallpaper \| golem	19:53
ubottu	golem: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://freecode.com/tags/theme - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy	19:53
HalfOfAKebab	ioria, lordcirth - i fixed the problem. even though ubuntu said it disabled uefi safe boot or whatever, it actually didn't. i manually disabled it and it works now :)	19:53
Backwards	Skinux I run a headless wireless server. I use a USB antenna. Railink puts one out.	19:53
ioria	HalfOfAKebab, secure boot , you mean ?	19:53
HalfOfAKebab	ioria yeah that one	19:53
lordcirth	HalfOfAKebab, "said it did"? Nothing but editing BIOS yourself can disable Secure Boot, that's the point. I suspect you misunderstood	19:53
skinux	I have a USB Wireless Adapter	19:54
lordcirth	HalfOfAKebab, but, glad it works!	19:54
HalfOfAKebab	:P	19:54
ioria	HalfOfAKebab, great	19:54
k1l_	skinux: show the line from "lsusb" from that device	19:54
slojanko	Hello, can somoene please help me remove a uefi entry?	19:54
Backwards	Railink works without installing any Ubuntu drivers.	19:54
ioria	HalfOfAKebab, are you on unity right now ?	19:55
skinux	NetGear Inc. WNA3100(v1) Wireless-N 300 [Broadcom BCM43231]	19:55
HalfOfAKebab	ioria i'm not sure. i installed xubuntu-desktop, but nothing looks like it's changed	19:55
SubCool	Hey, i was forward a disk recovery tool form here a long time ago. It was amazing. Bootable, mbr something i think. anyone know it?	19:55
OerHeks	Backwards, that depends not on the brand, but the chipset.	19:55
ioria	HalfOfAKebab, press Win key	19:55
Backwards	True.	19:55
lordcirth	HalfOfAKebab, if you want to login with XFCE, you have to choose it at the login screne	19:56
lordcirth	screen*	19:56
Backwards	OerHeks in my case, the USB antenna which is about 1 inch by 2 1/2 inch works great.	19:56
ioria	HalfOfAKebab, dash is opening ?	19:57
HalfOfAKebab	lordcirth i don't care about that :P i just wanted the drivers to work	19:57
HalfOfAKebab	ioria yes	19:57
Backwards	I have 3 of them running right now.	19:57
skinux	k1l_: NetGear Inc. WNA3100(v1) Wireless-N 300 [Broadcom BCM43231]	19:57
ahrc333ff	skinux: still working on that Broadcom chip, huh? lol. The only way I found was 'ndiswrapper' wrapping the windows driver. It's a huge PITA. You can get an excellent USB wireless card on Amazon for like $20.	19:58
k1l_	skinux: that is not the whole output from lsusb	19:58
ioria	HalfOfAKebab, we are happy then ... can you run /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p	19:58
Backwards	Skinux have you looked in your system and looked for the GUI that sets up the USB wireless.	19:58
HalfOfAKebab	ioria yep, rx 480 graphics, everything says "yes"	19:59
ahrc333ff	Backwards: the problem is the broadcom chipset. There is no easy way to get the driver. I tried to help him a few days ago.	19:59
ioria	HalfOfAKebab, good job	19:59
skinux	k1l_: Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0846:9020	19:59
Backwards	Oh! I see.	19:59
ahrc333ff	skinux: when you run these commands, do the following: $ command \| nc termbin.com 9999	19:59
ahrc333ff	You'll get a link, copy/paste the link here. We can see the full output.	19:59
skinux	Hold on	20:00
k1l_	skinux: that is the worst wifi hardware you can use on linux at all	20:00
ahrc333ff	skinux: 'nc' is just a tool that establishes a tcp connection to port 9999 on terbmin.com, you piped the output to it, and in return termbin.com responds with a link and closes the connection. nothing malicious.	20:00
lordcirth	netcat is great. It literally just throws the stuff you give it to the ip/port you tell it. Great for doing all sorts of weird stuff	20:01
ahrc333ff	lordcirth: agreed. need to transfer files between computers and all you have to work with is an ip? netcat and IO redirection to the rescue! woot	20:02
ahrc333ff	lol	20:02
skinux	Okay...I'm now chatting using the older machine.	20:02
lordcirth	ahrc333ff, well, generally you'll have scp, but yeah	20:02
Elhanan	considering upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04, I currently use software raid. I believe in the past the "md" software wasn't part of the base upgrade software... is that still the case? Is there prep I should do or docs I could reference prior to my upgrade?	20:03
ahrc333ff	lordcirth: true, but that requires ssl and that's not always configured	20:03
varaindemian	what theme could be this? http://kb.openstudioproject.com/sites/kb.openstudioproject.com/files/images/themes/Yosembiance_small.png	20:03
ahrc333ff	skinux: best wireless card I can think of for a linux user https://www.amazon.com/Alfa-AWUS036NHA-High-Wireless-Adaptor/dp/B004YD7UBQ/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1469995304&sr=8-2&keywords=alfa+wireless+atheros	20:05
skinux	k1l_: Here is the entire lsusb output https://gist.github.com/skinuxgeek/db55d60deaecd57f257ff293bd041700	20:05
blindinglight	my windows 10 guest freezes after the first installation restart. what can be wrong?	20:05
skinux	This is the wireless hardware I have and what I have to work with.	20:05
lordcirth	Elhanan, when you go to do the upgrade, it will present you with a (long!) list of package changes. Just look for mdadm to see if it will be upgraded. I bet it will.	20:05
ahrc333ff	skinux: yes, and you've already been advised, yo need to get ndiswrapper to work. the issue is a driver issue. broadcom does not make a driver for this device.	20:05
Backwards	Skinux type this in your terminal: lsusb	20:05
skinux	You can suggest amazon links all day long, it ain't gonna happen, not at this time.	20:06
lordcirth	varaindemian, what part? The dock at the bottom?	20:06
skinux	Backwards: https://gist.github.com/skinuxgeek/db55d60deaecd57f257ff293bd041700	20:06
varaindemian	lordcirth: the unity part	20:06
skinux	Okay, I'll get NDISWrapper and look for a Windows driver	20:06
varaindemian	borders, close, minimise buttons	20:06
ahrc333ff	Backwards: he did. link above. it shows the USB device, but as we noted in past exploration, there is no driver loaded. you cannot get a driver except through an ndiswrapper from what I was able to determine.	20:06
Backwards	Skinux check this URL: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2221251	20:07
ahrc333ff	That was the same link I provided a few days ago :)	20:08
ahrc333ff	Noteable: I recall reading that some people had to attempt several drivers before it worked.	20:08
Backwards	LOL	20:08
lordcirth	varaindemian, the picture says it's Yosembiance theme: https://www.gnome-look.org/p/1013689/ Though that looks a bit different	20:08
ahrc333ff	Backwards: the issue is, this is all likely to break again on a future update.	20:08
lordcirth	varaindemian, I think the theme might have an orange setting which is used in the picture?	20:09
skinux	Is HexChat memory heavy? I already installed Ubuntu MATE which got the thing working lots faster, but it can still be a sluggish.	20:09
Backwards	Ahrc333ff thanks for the warning. hehe	20:09
Daisykiki	It doesn't ding me when you're done typing	20:09
slojanko	Can someone please help me completely remove Ubuntu entry in Bios? I've used subo efiboot mgr -b 4-B to remove it but after a restart it returns	20:09
varaindemian	lordcirth: yeah the buttons look different from yosembiance	20:09
lordcirth	skinux, if I'm reading correctly mine is using ~24MB	20:10
lordcirth	varaindemian, it could be that the picture is an old version of the theme	20:11
hijplos	with regard to ipv6 privacy extentions should I choose "enable (prefer temporary address)" or enable (prefer public address)"?	20:11
ahrc333ff	skinux: Effectively 0% of my memory (8GB) as well. Very low overhead.	20:11
Elhanan	lordcirth, I see "mdadm" in the Upgrade section of my "Details" ... thanks! (I've got my data backed up so I'll give it a try)	20:12
lordcirth	Oh oops that's 50MB. Still, whatever	20:12
lordcirth	Elhanan, should be good then!	20:12
varaindemian	lordcirth: maybe.. but what I hate about these osx like themes is that the close/min/max buttons are not properly rendered	20:12
varaindemian	I can easly see the pixels	20:12
akik	slojanko: did you both modify -b and delete -B with the same command?	20:13
DelphiWorld	hi	20:13
DelphiWorld	is canonical faking people?	20:14
dax	what	20:14
lordcirth	DelphiWorld, in what way?	20:14
DelphiWorld	is dz.archive.ubuntu.com a fake mirror?	20:14
slojanko	akik: I dont know, I used it like this sudo efibootmgr -b 4 -B	20:14
dax	DelphiWorld: what's the actual problem that you're having?	20:14
lordcirth	DelphiWorld, why would you think it was?	20:14
DelphiWorld	lordcirth: ping dz.archive.ubuntu.com	20:14
akik	slojanko: try to only delete it	20:14
OerHeks	DelphiWorld, it is known on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors	20:15
DelphiWorld	dax, not a problem but strange situation	20:15
lordcirth	DelphiWorld, 91ms stable. why?	20:15
k1l_	skinux: honestly: i would get a better working wifi device. this is really horrible. you need to use ndiswrapper which is really a pain: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2264020&highlight=wna3100	20:15
DelphiWorld	but it's pointing to GB	20:15
DelphiWorld	so it's not a local mirror	20:15
lordcirth	DelphiWorld, so it's a CNAME. big deal.	20:15
DelphiWorld	lordcirth: i'll love to know more ?	20:15
dax	DelphiWorld: the country code mirror aliases point to whichever mirror(s) are relatively fast and stable for the country. Since not all countries have stable mirrors, sometimes they point to Canonical mirrors that tend to be in GB/US/etc.	20:16
lordcirth	DelphiWorld, but it's the correct mirror to use if you're in dz = (algeria?)	20:16
dax	they're not claiming that they have mirrors in every country, so they're not really faking anything	20:16
DelphiWorld	dax & lordcirth, i see other mirrors who's faster thant this one	20:16
lordcirth	DelphiWorld, then switch to those.	20:16
DelphiWorld	but now i think i know why ubuntu server choused it	20:16
DelphiWorld	cause maybe my ISP have a direct link to london	20:17
dax	DelphiWorld: long-term stability tends to be a concern, as well	20:17
DelphiWorld	dax, i am not suspecting anything, but just love to know	20:17
lordcirth	If my package download speed had anything to do with the mirror, I would be a happy mad	20:17
lordcirth	man*	20:17
DelphiWorld	lordcirth: latency mather a lot	20:18
skinux	k1l_: Unless you would like to buy it for me, it's not going to happen right now and maybe not anytime soon.	20:18
DelphiWorld	guys for explaining	20:19
skinux	This one says NetGear on it, technicaly it's a Broadcom...NetGear doesn't sell garbage.	20:19
lordcirth	DelphiWorld, you're welcome :) Though you should try to sound less accusatory next time :P	20:20
DelphiWorld	broadcom = deadcom	20:20
k1l_	skinux: the used chip is a broadcom. see the link i posted you	20:20
akik	slojanko: try "sudo efibootmgr -b 0004 -B 0004" if number 4 was ubuntu	20:20
OerHeks	netgear is a brand, BCM the chipset, don't mix those	20:20
DelphiWorld	hahaha lordcirth	20:20
Bashing-om	skinux: Have you seen the docs to get the BCM proprietary driver installed ?	20:23
slojanko	akik: its gone if I try sudo efibootmgr again but after restart it appears again in boot menu	20:23
Bashing-om	!bcm \| skinux	20:23
ubottu	skinux: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx	20:23
stanton	ctjctj: bekks, i believe it's fixed now	20:27
Backwards	Skinux I use a wifi USB antenna. My wifi antenna looks like this: http://www.china-dhgate.com/mini-ralink-pc-wifi-adapter-300m-usb-wifi-antenna-wireless-computer-network-card-80211ngb-lan-antenna-whole-p-3613.html <------< It runs on Windows with drivers and Ubuntu not having to install drivers.	20:33
stanton	ctjctj: bekks: it was the cable i was using. and the port kind both. the cable got loose i stopped the memtest after pass 4 due to the fact i was annoyed with the new stick it's slower than the old sticks. and when i opened the case to remove it i noticed the cable wasn't fully in the board XD that'd def cause issues with hdd not working right. haha thanks guys.	20:36
Ussat	can someone point me to some good docs on setting up a kerberos client to auth against AD ? I have done this in RHEL with no issues, (authconfig -tui in rhel) but I dont find a similar command in Ubuntu. I have instaled the correct packages, and configured my krb5.conf file , I just can not find out how to tell the logins to use kerberos instead of local passwords	20:37
neomex	why doesn't something.sh launch terminal when doubleclicked?	20:40
* rtm		20:40
neomex	also just typing it in terminal cant launch it	20:41
dax	neomex: does it have the execute bit set? (chmod +x file.sh)	20:41
docmur	i have a network 10.0.3.0 that I use for my LXC containers. My default network is 10.0.0.1, how do I route 10.0.3.0/24 over 10.0.0.1, I tried ip route add 10.0.3.0/24 via 10.0.0.1, but I get RTNETLINK answers: File exists. The problem is that right now the LXC Containers can't reach the interne	20:42
neomex	dax, nop, how do i do it and what does chmod do?	20:43
HadesWatch3r	I have 16.04.1 LTS, when copying a large file from a USB it will cause my machine to slow to a crawl and then reboot, it is a Core i7 6700K with 32GB Ram and 512 SSD.... why is this happening?	20:43
dax	neomex: chmod changes the permissions modes of a file, including the execution permission mode	20:44
lordcirth	HadesWatch3r, it reboots? Does it do a shutdown process or just reboot instantly?	20:44
dax	neomex: your file manager may have a Permissions tab in the file properties too, i've never used them for that so idk	20:44
HadesWatch3r	Instant reboot, no message in log that I can tell why?	20:44
HadesWatch3r	syslog that is..	20:44
neomex	dax, it keeps opening in gedit, i did the chmod thing on it	20:45
neomex	gedit is set as default application to run it, and it has allow executing as program toggled on	20:45
Bashing-om	HadesWatch3r: Is the USB drive with FAT file system ? such that there is that 4Gigs file size limitation .. maybe ??	20:46
HadesWatch3r	no sir.	20:47
HadesWatch3r	They are ext4 with LUKS encryption.	20:47
lordcirth	HadesWatch3r, how large is this "large file"?	20:47
lordcirth	HadesWatch3r, also, watch 'top' or 'htop' while the copy runs and see what is going on	20:48
HadesWatch3r	39.1 GB	20:48
StephenS	I need a way to run mariadb and mysql server, both on ubuntu, how can I accomplish this?	20:48
lordcirth	StephenS, make an LXC container?	20:48
lordcirth	For each, that is	20:48
StephenS	you mean something like docker does?	20:49
Backwards	Ahrc333ff I bought my wireless antennas from this link. The prices are great: http://www.aliexpress.com/w/wholesale-wifi-antenna.html They are surplus computer supplies.	20:49
lordcirth	StephenS, docker is similar, yes	20:49
ppf	anyone versed with cups-pdf?	20:49
herbeth	hi guzy	20:49
StephenS	no way to run this on my instance, without isolated instance?	20:49
ppf	resulting documents carry no embedded text	20:50
HadesWatch3r	lordcirth ok, thanks.	20:50
ppf	is there a way to fix that?	20:50
HadesWatch3r	Bashing-om, thank you.	20:50
lordcirth	StephenS, there might be, but IMHO LXC is cleaner	20:50
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ahrc333ff	Backwards: awesome, thx for the link!	20:51
Backwards	Your welcome.	20:51
Islah1	Hi all, does anyone here have experience with installing wifi drivers on lubuntu? (It's on a notebook so it has no ethernet port so i have to do it manually)	20:51
_TheArchitect_	StephenS: No. mariaDB is a fork of mysql. Can't be run on the same instance. Could use virtualbox and install arch for the mariaDB and have ubuntu as the host OS with mysql running.	20:52
_TheArchitect_	Islah1 Loads of horrible eperience. Had to compile and install reltek drivers before.	20:53
lordcirth	VMs work but containers are lighter.	20:53
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Backwards	A lot of people don't know that a wireless antenna is designed for most USB applications.	20:53
ahrc333ff	Islah1: type the following: lsusb	20:53
_TheArchitect_	lsusb	20:53
Islah1	got it ahrc333ff	20:53
ahrc333ff	Ishlah1: In your computer, type lsusb and if you don't see your card there, then try lspci	20:54
ahrc333ff	Ishlah1: these commands go into the terminal :)	20:54
Islah1	BCM43142A0 Bluetooth Device	20:54
ahrc333ff	Islah1: BCM43142A0 is a broadcom device. They're usually the worst o_0 They offer very little to no driver support.	20:55
Islah1	yeah :(	20:55
Islah1	All other linux distros I have used worked right away	20:55
ahrc333ff	Islah1: well, that's good news then.	20:55
ahrc333ff	Islah1: in fact, if you have one of the other distros that you can boot to (live usb?) you can easily determine which driver it uses	20:56
tgm4883	!broadcom	20:56
ubottu	Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx	20:56
k1l_	Islah1: try this: http://askubuntu.com/a/632348/31260	20:56
Islah1	will try that k1l_	20:57
Backwards	Ahrc333ff, I don't understand that Ksinux does'nt go directly to the Manufacturer.	20:57
Backwards	Skinux rather.	20:58
Backwards	Skinux should give that wireless a decent burrial.	20:59
ahrc333ff	Backwards: oh, haha. yeah. I agree	20:59
ahrc333ff	Backwards: makes it seem as if money is an issue though o_0	20:59
Backwards	I understand.	20:59
Backwards	I have been there but that is how you learn.	20:59
ahrc333ff	Backwards: agree	21:00
Backwards	My friend said years ago: "The best way to learn is to get mad at yourself."	21:00
Backwards	Most Manufacturers won't give you the time of day with old equipment not supported.	21:02
Spec-Chum	Probably too generic a question but how would I remove a tab that precedes every line when I do 'git status \| grep "bsnes" >> .gitingore	21:03
Spec-Chum	' ?	21:03
Spec-Chum	actually, it's spaces not a tab, sorry	21:04
bekks	Spec-Chum: Using sed -i	21:04
KALASH	ubuntu is for niggers. use debian	21:08
dax	!botsnack \| Drone`	21:08
ubottu	Drone`: Yum! Err, I mean, APT!	21:08
Spec-Chum	bekks, dur, I've been using linus for years, how the hell did I not think of that haha. Sorry	21:09
Spec-Chum	derp on my part	21:09
Backwards	Do the bots on this channel use Atheme or Anope? Or rely on freenode's chanserv?	21:12
uhasdf	how do I stop pidgin from autostarting? It's not in the Session and Startup>Application Autostart list but it pops up every time I reboot. I can't find a setting in Pidgin to stop this either	21:12
sponix	uhasdf: After you use Pidgin one time you are Stuck with it for LIFE	21:14
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uhasdf	like herpes then	21:14
sponix	The Gift that Keeps on Giving	21:14
uhasdf	but seriously...shouldn't there be a way to disable autostart?	21:14
sponix	If it was annoying me I'd try a bit of "Google FU" on the topic and if that didn't turn out well I'd rename the executable to show it who was BOSS	21:16
neomex	how can i access virtualbox ubuntu files from host (windows) ?	21:17
neomex	if its the wrong place, where should i ask this?	21:17
dax	set up a shared directory in the VM settings, #vbox for more help with that	21:17
dax	should work fine in Ubuntu if vbox tools are installed	21:17
neomex	thanks again	21:18
sponix	uhasdf: --> http://askubuntu.com/questions/288352/how-to-stop-pidgin-to-run-at-ubuntu-start-up	21:19
uhasdf	yeah I saw that....didnt work for me	21:19
hidden	can anyone help me urgently im freaking out	21:20
uhasdf	that command results in nothing but the user prompt again	21:20
lordcirth	!ask \| hidden	21:20
ubottu	hidden: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience	21:20
hidden	my internet connection is being routed through a vpn provider,	21:20
hidden	and i didn't do this	21:20
hidden	it's ubuntu	21:20
reisio	hidden: what makes you think that	21:20
hidden	says my ip is 185.65.134.78	21:20
hidden	searched, it's apparently mullvad	21:21
hidden	should i disconnect and format? i need to backup stuff	21:21
Backwards	Uhasdf reading this might be interesting: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1341801	21:21
hidden	it's damn annoying	21:21
hidden	i'm not even paying for this vpn	21:21
lordcirth	hidden, do you have any idea how long? Did anyone use your computer who might have done this and forgot to turn it off?	21:22
hidden	185.65.134.78	21:22
reisio	hidden: who's your ISP?	21:22
hidden	nope, no one used it	21:22
hidden	virgin media	21:22
k1l_	hidden: what shows you "wget http://ipinfo.io/ip -qO -" in terminal?	21:22
hidden	is someone attacking me right now?	21:22
hidden	wget http://ipinfo.io/ip -qO -	21:23
Backwards	Also try this: http://blog.chapagain.com.np/xubuntu-how-to-stop-applications-launching-on-startup-automatically/	21:23
hidden	SAME ip	21:23
reisio	hidden: boot up a live ISO	21:23
hidden	185.65.134.78	21:23
uhasdf	Backwards: thanks...saw that as well. Pidgin isn't in any autostart list or directory...yet it autostarts anyway	21:23
k1l_	hidden: so you set up a system proxy?	21:23
reisio	hidden: if you're still using a VPN from that, then you can relax somewhat, as it'll be part of your ISP's setup, or your local network/router's	21:23
hidden	no	21:23
k1l_	hidden: or use tor or such?	21:23
hidden	yes i used tor, but this is google chrome	21:23
hidden	tor isn't runnning i guess	21:24
sponix	uhasdf: Did you try the Terminal portion listed there ?	21:24
k1l_	hidden: so you set tor to be used by the system?	21:24
hidden	my isp won't do this	21:24
uhasdf	sponix: yes....the command doesnt do anything	21:24
uhasdf	just returns me to the user prompt	21:24
hidden	nope	21:24
ikonia	hidden: that you know of	21:24
reisio	and I mentioned more than the ISP	21:24
uhasdf	nothing I have found in 5 pages of google results has worked....	21:24
hidden	doing sudo apt-get autoremove tor	21:24
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k1l_	hidden: we cant know what you set up or changed	21:24
hidden	but i doubt tor would change my computer ip	21:24
ikonia	hidden: of course it would	21:24
ikonia	hidden: thats the whole point, you're proxying out of it	21:25
uhasdf	it seems a lot of people have the same issue but i dont see any solution	21:25
hidden	yes but i need to configure my network settings	21:25
reisio	anyway, if you boot up a live OS, you'll know whether it's unique to your installed system	21:25
ikonia	hidden: no you don't	21:25
hidden	to poitn to tor's socks	21:25
hidden	i surely do	21:25
lordcirth	hidden, The fastest way to be totally sure is to boot a LiveUSB. Go do that.	21:25
tgm4883	lordcirth: +1	21:25
hidden	i want to check the current config	21:25
uhasdf	I have no autostart or sessions settings that should cause it...no .cache or .config files for pidgin	21:26
hidden	for network settings, where can i find relevant info	21:26
ikonia	hidden: verify it with a livecd first	21:26
lordcirth	hidden, http://puppylinux.com/	21:26
lordcirth	If you don't have an iso lying around	21:26
Backwards	Uhasdf perhaps there is another program that is opening up the program automatically.	21:27
hidden	my router is OK, i checked on another pc	21:27
ikonia	not what was asked	21:27
Islah1	ok i think i may have found a solution!	21:27
ikonia	hidden: check it with a livecd and confirm	21:27
uhasdf	Backwards: I would have no idea how to determine that...any ideas?	21:27
hidden	check what?	21:27
ikonia	hidden: if the routing still happens	21:27
hidden	livecd is a fresh install, what sthe difference	21:27
ikonia	hidden: a livecd won't have been modified by anything	21:27
hidden	i connected a diff device on same network and it has my usual ip	21:27
sponix	uhasdf: Man I hope that Pidgin doesn't come up the next time I boot !	21:27
hidden	so it's definitely this os that has a misconf	21:27
ikonia	hidden: https://check.torproject.org/cgi-bin/TorBulkExitList.py?ip=82.161.230.90	21:28
k1l_	hidden: did you use torsocks?	21:28
ikonia	hidden: it's a tor exit node	21:28
uhasdf	sponix: I am putting the pidgin evil on you	21:28
Backwards	Maybe start with dmesg.	21:28
hidden	https://check.torproject.org/cgi-bin/TorBulkExitList.py?ip=185.65.134.78	21:28
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hidden	i don't think so, my ip was fine till yesterday	21:29
hidden	tor has been running on my computer as usual	21:29
ikonia	hidden: check it on a lviecd	21:29
ikonia	livecd	21:29
sponix	uhasdf: Well, I'm not sure why I hang out here.. But I run Linux Mint anyway.. So with a little luck I wont fall victim to your Evil Plot	21:29
hidden	but i usually configure apps to do this	21:29
ikonia	and it's showing up in old tor lists	21:29
ikonia	so it certainly looks like a tor node	21:29
hidden	mannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn	21:30
hidden	i'm pissed	21:30
hidden	ok	21:30
hidden	formatting	21:30
hidden	disconnecting	21:30
hidden	if i can't repair	21:30
reisio	haven't you been using tor, though?	21:30
sponix	uhasdf: What Version and Flavor of Ubuntu are you running ?	21:30
hidden	yes i used tor, but through firefox	21:30
ikonia	hidden: ok - bye then, if you don't want help - no point discussing it	21:30
ikonia	go format	21:30
ikonia	bye	21:30
uhasdf	xubuntu 16.04	21:30
hidden	this is forwarding ALL MY CONNECTIONS	21:30
reisio	it's true the only way you can be sure all the time that your system hasn't been compromised, though, is to have been tracking changes to it from installation time (AIDE, etc.)	21:30
ikonia	hidden: yes, we know - but you'r enot willing to work with us to verify	21:31
hidden	you are telling me to boot from live usb, ikonia	21:31
ikonia	so off you go, go and format	21:31
Backwards	Uhasdf, you can look at top or Netstat to see what is talking in the background.	21:31
k1l_	hidden: because you set something to use it that way. ubuntu doesnt do that on its own	21:31
uhasdf	hidden: calm down dude...you are acting weird	21:31
lordcirth	reisio, TIL about AIDE. Thanks!	21:31
hidden	dude i'm not sure if someone has malware on my laptop right now	21:31
reisio	lordcirth: but I wasn't the one who told you :p	21:31
uhasdf	Backwards: how do I do that? Just type "netstat"?	21:31
ikonia	yes we know	21:31
ikonia	thats why we are advising you on how to verify it	21:31
ikonia	but you keep ignoring it	21:31
hidden	by what using livecd?	21:31
ikonia	so either accept help - or stop asking	21:31
Backwards	Something like netstat tuanlp	21:31
ikonia	using a livecd will verify things	21:32
ikonia	hence why you're being asked to do it	21:32
hidden	why it's just a fresh os	21:32
ikonia	hidden: - ok, then lets take the compromised approach	21:32
lordcirth	hidden, yeah, that's the point. A fresh OS, without malware.	21:32
ikonia	hidden: your machine has been compromised, it cannot be trusted, take it off the network and format your machine	21:32
ikonia	hidden: that is the only way to be sure of fixing a compromised machine	21:32
reisio	well, a different OS	21:32
hidden	that's what i'ma do, and this is only machine i can use to communicate on irc hence why i don't want to turn off yet	21:32
hidden	so cool	21:32
reisio	it will, again, tell you whether the issue is unique to your install	21:32
ikonia	hidden: you can communicate from a livecd	21:33
ikonia	hidden: but as you don't want this, please follow the compromised machine approach	21:33
ikonia	disconnect your machine and format straight away	21:33
* hidden looks for a usb		21:33
ikonia	as your tools could be compromised and not trusted	21:33
hidden	ok thanks, i'l be back sometime	21:33
ikonia	we don't need to know how it works out	21:33
ikonia	just format your machine and carry on using it when it works again	21:34
hidden	any ideas on how i could save a snapshot of this drive	21:34
ikonia	no	21:34
ikonia	it's compromised	21:34
Backwards	https://help.ubuntu.com/16.04/ubuntu-help/startup-applications.html	21:34
ikonia	your tools cannot be trusted	21:34
zayd	hi	21:34
tgm4883	ikonia: that's not really helpful	21:34
ikonia	tgm4883: it is - there where other options, he doesn't want to do them, so we have to use compromised as a starting point	21:34
zayd	i have a problem with my wireless connection	21:34
ewu28	Hi	21:35
sponix	uhasdf: Do you have "System / Preferences / Sessions" ?	21:35
hidden	ikonia if you want to be helpful just tell me how i can check the network config and find out proxy settinggs	21:35
uhasdf	yep....not there.	21:35
ikonia	hidden: it's pointless until we know the state of your system	21:35
ikonia	hence checking with a livecd	21:35
uhasdf	pidgiin doesnt show up in any config files or settings that the common results blame for this	21:35
hidden	anyone else?	21:35
ikonia	as if you ARE compromised, your tools can't be trusted	21:35
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tgm4883	ikonia: what's a livecd going to tell him that another system wouldn't?	21:36
ikonia	so we need to know for the certain the state of your machine, and a livecd is the best and quickest wa to do this	21:36
ikonia	tgm4883: what other system	21:36
hidden	thnk you tgm4883	21:36
zayd	when i use the ipconfig command i can't find the "wlan0" but i get "wlp2s0" and i can't connect to my network	21:36
ikonia	tgm4883: it will tell a lot	21:36
ikonia	eg: mac based routing on the router	21:36
=== brandon is now known as Guest55365
tgm4883	ikonia: he already said another system on the same network doesn't have this issue	21:36
ikonia	so ?	21:36
hidden	^	21:36
ikonia	there are more than one config and compromise on a network	21:36
k1l_	hidden: it would help a lot if you could tell what your exact system is and what you changed.	21:37
hidden	i just need to find out if it's a simple network configuration	21:37
ikonia	could be as simple as a firewall rule on the router	21:37
ikonia	hidden: what is your default route	21:37
hidden	i can't see any openvpn loaded on network manager	21:37
hidden	or installed	21:37
zayd	someone to help, please!!!	21:37
Xpistos	Hey all. I am trying to install ubuntu 16.04 on my asus laptop but it says I don't not have any free space. there is a 1TB drive in the system but that says I don't have permissions. Not sure what to do here and could use some help	21:37
ikonia	openvpn load ??	21:37
ikonia	what	21:37
k1l_	hidden: you claim its a fresh os and ubuntu changed something. but that cleary is not the case. since you already said you used tor and such	21:37
ikonia	the ip is showing up in the tor network list	21:38
hidden	it's not a fresh install the network settings changed all of a sudden and i can't find out why	21:38
hidden	i don't have any openvpn profiles installed	21:38
ikonia	hidden: thats why we want to verify with a livecd	21:38
ikonia	tor is not an openvpn	21:38
tgm4883	ikonia: if you, as you are alluding to, that it's possible that it's a issue with mac based routing on the FW (or other issue with the router) then reformating isn't going to help	21:38
ikonia	so that has nothing to do with it	21:38
k1l_	hidden: what exact ubuntu system is it?	21:38
hidden	16.04	21:38
ikonia	tgm4883: no, it's not, but as he won't verify anything	21:38
irregular	hi guys my internet has been abnormally slow I look at the browser console network tab and DNS lookup takes 8 seconds for any site I visit	21:38
ikonia	a 2 minute boot from a live media will prove the basics quickly	21:38
tgm4883	ikonia: well yes, he should listen to instructions and follow them	21:38
Backwards	Uhasdf try this link: http://askubuntu.com/questions/288352/how-to-stop-pidgin-to-run-at-ubuntu-start-up	21:39
k1l_	hidden: "dpkg -l \| grep -i tor \| nc termbin.com 9999" show the url here	21:39
ikonia	tgm4883: right - which he's not doing, so I have no choice but to assume compromise as I can't verify anything	21:39
ikonia	tgm4883: and if it is compromised, it can't be trusted format	21:39
uhasdf	Backwards: alraedy did	21:39
ikonia	it's pointless to come in here asking for help then refuse to do the steps to resolve the problem	21:39
uhasdf	didnt work...the command doesnt work	21:39
ikonia	so either do it - or stop asking	21:39
hidden	http://termbin.com/0kh6	21:39
tgm4883	hidden: you really need to follow instructions here	21:39
hidden	k1l_, "dpkg -l \| grep -i tor \| nc termbin.com 9999	21:40
uhasdf	seems pidgin and I are in it for life	21:40
hidden	http://termbin.com/0kh6	21:40
Islah1	ugh this is so frustrating	21:40
Backwards	Have you apt-get upgrade and update lately?	21:40
hidden	i had some update notification show up a few times for ubuntu	21:41
hidden	system update	21:41
ikonia	it's nothing to do with updates	21:41
zayd	hi there please someone to help me	21:41
ikonia	its' very likley a tor config	21:41
ikonia	the quicker you just verify this the better you'll be	21:41
ikonia	the ip you quote is listed in tor network nodes	21:41
ikonia	the odds are high it's just a bad tor config / process thats not died / reset	21:41
hidden	i did sudo apt-get remove tor	21:42
hidden	autoremove	21:42
hidden	should i do purge too	21:42
hidden	and reboot	21:42
ikonia	that won't change it if it's running in ram	21:42
hidden	man i have a lot of work to backup	21:42
ikonia	why are you backing up things ?	21:42
hidden	ok i'l disconnect and just backup my stuff	21:42
k1l_	hidden: did you reboot since?	21:42
ikonia	we just want to verify your network routes	21:42
hidden	no	21:43
hidden	need to download the ubuntu liveusb through tor :/	21:43
Xpistos	OSError: [Errno 28] No space left on device	21:43
zayd	i have a problem please!!!!!!!	21:43
ikonia	zayd: be patient	21:43
ewu28	is your machine even picking up that you have wifi ?	21:43
ikonia	zayd: you'll end up ignored	21:44
Xpistos	There is 1tb on the drive	21:44
zayd	sorry	21:44
Xpistos	and I am booting from a USB	21:44
Islah1	Hi again, when trying to use this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx (for STA, no internet access) when trying to install dkms I get a dependency error is not satifiable: gcc	21:44
uhasdf	thanks for the attempts guys...if anyone needs to chat over pidgin I will be on it for the rest of my life so hit me up ;)	21:44
ikonia	hidden: just reboot your host	21:44
k1l_	Xpistos: can you show the output of "df -h \| nc termbin.com 9999"?	21:44
ikonia	hidden: see if the problem goes away now that you've removed tor	21:44
bekks	Xpistos: Give us the URL of "df -h \| nc termbin.com 9999" please :)	21:44
hidden	ok i'll reboot brb	21:44
tgm4883	hidden: ikonia I'm not super familiar with tor, but shouldn't we be able to see if it's being used?	21:45
motaka2	hello when I install sudo apt-get install php5-curl it says package not found on ubuntu 14.04, what should I do?	21:45
ikonia	tgm4883: depends, there are 10 ways to use it	21:45
ewu28	? what's the problem	21:45
hidden	notsur	21:45
hidden	brb	21:45
ikonia	and looking at his pakage list, he's got 2 - 3 options plus an advanced connection manager on it	21:45
Xpistos	bekks: http://termbin.com/bevc	21:45
ewu28	!!!!! sounds serious	21:45
notadeveloper	xD	21:46
chili555	Islah1: Are you trying to compile the package from source? Whay? That's the (very) hard way.	21:46
k1l_	Xpistos: is this a live system?	21:46
tgm4883	ikonia: without it being installed, wouldn't it be enough to check if it's currently running and the system proxy?	21:46
bekks	Xpistos: you are running a livecd, are you?	21:46
Xpistos	bekks: I am on a live usb to install yes	21:46
ptah	where do i get a free irc shell?	21:46
Islah1	Chilli555 im all out of options trying to get this broadcom driver installed	21:46
OerHeks	motaka2, try php7.0-curl	21:46
bekks	Xpistos: you cannot install things on a livecd. :)	21:46
ikonia	tgm4883: no, as it can also be a daemon that the default route goes through, there are various ways to configure it	21:46
OerHeks	!info php7.0-curl	21:46
ubottu	php7.0-curl (source: php7.0): CURL module for PHP. In component main, is optional. Version 7.0.8-0ubuntu0.16.04.1 (xenial), package size 28 kB, installed size 114 kB	21:46
tgm4883	ikonia: daemons run to do they not?	21:46
ikonia	tgm4883: hence the quick test - it's likley it's still there / running somehow due to the ip being in the exit node lists	21:47
ikonia	tgm4883: they do indeed	21:47
rajivmars	which java software i have to install to run java based programs in ubuntu 16.04?	21:47
ikonia	tgm4883: or they pass through a library	21:47
chili555	Islah1: Which device is it? What is its pci.id? 14e4:????	21:47
Xpistos	bekks: i am not trying to install it to a cd or a usb, I am trying to install it to the hard drive it isn't getting to the point where I can say where install	21:47
ikonia	depending on how you have it setup,	21:47
OerHeks	motaka2, oops sorry, you said 14.04 my bad	21:47
ptah	where do i get a free irc shell?	21:47
Xpistos	I have never seen this before.	21:47
Islah1	sec	21:47
motaka2	OerHeks: so what should I do ?	21:47
bekks	Xpistos: So how are you trying to do that, in particular?	21:47
k1l_	Xpistos: the usb is full. did you run a upgrade on that live system?	21:47
OerHeks	!info php5-curl trusty	21:48
ubottu	php5-curl (source: php5): CURL module for php5. In component main, is optional. Version 5.5.9+dfsg-1ubuntu4.17 (trusty), package size 26 kB, installed size 138 kB	21:48
Xpistos	I am double clicking the install ubuntu 16.04 LTS icon on the desktop and it sayd there was 0 space	21:48
OerHeks	should be there, motaka2	21:48
motaka2	OerHeks: Then why mine is not ?	21:48
Xpistos	k1l_: no upgrade	21:48
Islah1	Broadcom BCM43142 @ chili555	21:48
Xpistos	I have 16 gb usb and it said the same thing	21:48
OerHeks	motaka2, dunno, maybe you added a ppa for php ???	21:49
chili555	Islah1: 14e4:????	21:49
zayd	ikonia: when i use the ifconfig command i can't find the "wlan0" but i get "wlp2s0" and i can't connect to my network	21:49
motaka2	OerHeks: Yes I did , i think	21:49
ikonia	zayd: I'm not helping you - as you keep just spamming the channel, as I said, be patient, not ask me directly	21:49
Xpistos	bekks: I tried to do with with a live cd as well. same thing happened	21:49
ptah	hello??	21:49
ptah	where do i get a free irc shell?	21:49
ikonia	ptah: not here	21:49
Backwards	Uhasdf the only resort I can think of right now is this link: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/	21:49
ikonia	ptah: check the web	21:49
ptah	ok	21:50
k1l_	ptah: this is only ubuntu support. for other talk join #chat	21:50
Xpistos	I have install ubuntu and mint a bunch of times and have never seen this	21:50
Islah1	14e4:4329 @chili555	21:51
hidden	removed tor its fixed... for now i guess	21:51
Islah1	sorry nvm	21:51
Islah1	its 14e4:4365 @ chili555	21:51
ikonia	hidden: for now ?	21:51
k1l_	Xpistos: restart the system. dont run the update on the live system. just install ubuntu	21:51
hidden	still couscous	21:51
chili555	Islah1: bcmwl-kernel-source is correct for this device. Did you install it? Is the module loaded? lsmod \| grep wl	21:52
ikonia	?	21:52
hidden	i'm going to backup work and format	21:52
ikonia	why ?	21:52
hidden	loads of third party applications installed	21:52
hidden	i don't trust this system anymore	21:52
ikonia	so ?	21:52
hidden	can be anything running	21:52
ikonia	why not ?	21:52
hidden	what do you mean?	21:52
ikonia	what reason do you have to not trust the system	21:52
ikonia	actually, I don't care, you won't listen anyway	21:53
ikonia	just do what you want	21:53
hidden	you have loads of applications installed, risks are higher for some to be malicious	21:53
hidden	why are you so arrogant lol	21:53
ikonia	hidden: whatever,	21:53
ikonia	hidden: because you don't listen	21:53
ikonia	it's pointless to try to discuss or help	21:53
ikonia	so just carry on with what you want	21:53
hidden	ikonia just because you provide help, which i appreciate doesn't mean you know best	21:53
tgm4883	couscous?	21:53
tgm4883	isn't that food	21:53
hidden	auto correct	21:53
ikonia	hidden: apply logic,	21:53
OerHeks	tgm4883, indeed	21:53
hidden	logic: do you have any background in network security	21:53
ikonia	hidden: you routed out of a tor node, you removed tor, it stopped routing out of a tor node	21:53
ikonia	what's not to trust	21:54
Islah1	for 14e4:4365 I looked at it said bcmwl was the correct one o.O @ chili555	21:54
hidden	i installed many applications some might have been malware	21:54
hidden	even though trusted sources	21:54
ikonia	and if you ARE infected, backing up possible infected files and restoring them is bad	21:54
pennTeller	Hi guys, I heard that Systemd is now logging using binary, is this true??	21:54
hidden	infected files: personal work	21:54
ikonia	hidden: you have no idea what's infected what's not	21:55
chili555	Islah1: Correct. So did you install it? sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source	21:55
ikonia	if you can't trust your system and may have malware, it could be in your personal files	21:55
hidden	do you have anti virus lel	21:55
ikonia	hidden: antivirus is worthless	21:55
Islah1	No, I have no internet connection (it is a notebook with no ethernet port)	21:55
k1l_	pennTeller: yes. but iirc ubuntu still got classic logfiles	21:55
hidden	ok i get the message, burning laptop	21:55
Islah1	@ chili555	21:55
ikonia	hidden: no, not at all	21:55
ikonia	hidden: this is what I mean about you not listening	21:55
ikonia	your problem was "my machine is routing out of a tor node"	21:56
ikonia	you removed tor - and it stopped	21:56
ikonia	what reason do you have to not trust it ?	21:56
Backwards	Ikonia how true. Backing up a virus or infection is just asking for trouble. The time to backup a system is before installing anything new so you can revert back to what works.	21:56
hidden	yes, and you think it might have been a tor misconfig	21:56
pennTeller	k1l_: do you know the reasoning behind that decision? seems a bit suspicious to me	21:56
ikonia	hidden: I'm pretty certain it was	21:56
hidden	it could have been, maybe its not just that	21:56
curlyears	what command do I use at the CLI prompt to view the name and ID of my processor, or to view the temmps and speeds the fan(s) are running at?	21:56
Xpistos_	k1l_: I didn't update the live usb. I booted into it and double clicked install ubuntu and got the 0 space error	21:56
ikonia	hidden: what reason do you have to think it's not that	21:56
pennTeller	k1l_: almost like somebody is trying to be sneaky	21:56
k1l_	pennTeller: well, ask the systemd guys. it was their decision	21:56
ikonia	what other symptom or hint	21:56
kantlivelong	how can i turn on a pm-suspend quirk?	21:56
hidden	i'm paranoid	21:56
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Xpistos_	k1l_: I am rebotting that box now just for giggles	21:57
hidden	and autoremove removed affiliated stuff	21:57
ikonia	hidden: then there is no point discussing it - as you won't apply reason, you'll just do what you want	21:57
hidden	did it remove stuff that came with to	21:57
hidden	rtor	21:57
ikonia	hence "just carry on"	21:57
hidden	or onces linked to tor	21:57
OerHeks	curlyears, lscpu, for temp see lmsensors	21:57
=== Xpistos_ is now known as Xpistos
OerHeks	!lmsensors	21:57
ubottu	To access CPU temperature sensors and detect fan speeds, install the lm-sensors package. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto for installation and usage instructions.	21:57
pennTeller	k1l_: I guess I will. Do you know where they can be found?	21:57
chudak	hi all, wondering if anybody has any good/bad experience using IPMI tool with Intel NUC I7 running 16.04?	21:57
Xpistos	k1l_: I chose install ubuntu this time. no gui	21:58
Xpistos	k1l_: I have the install screen. I am putting in my wireless password. Clicking on install and ...	21:58
k1l_	Xpistos: what ubuntu is that exactly?	21:59
Xpistos	k1l_: 16.04 64x	21:59
k1l_	hmm	22:00
Xpistos	k1l_: it won't give me the wireless, so I am gonna skip that and just go basic	22:00
kantlivelong	do files in /etc/pm/config.d need exec bit?	22:01
Xpistos	k1l_: no it says ubi-partman failed with exit code 10 and do I want to continue	22:01
Xpistos	k1l_: if I say yes it will continue to fail with a bunch of stuff	22:01
Xpistos	k1l_: So I will boot back into the gui and try to install there	22:01
curlyears	E: Unable to locate package lmsensors	22:02
Xpistos	k1l_: When I canceled it said the same thing, that there was 0 space available	22:02
curlyears	e: lmsensors not found, and I've tried apt-get install, claims it cannot find lmsensors	22:03
dax	i think it's lm-sensors or lm_sensors or something	22:03
ikonia	try searching for lmsensors	22:03
chili555	Islah1: BRB	22:03
Islah1	ok @ chili555	22:03
OerHeks	lm-sensors with a dash	22:03
k1l_	!info lm-sensors \| curlyears	22:03
ubottu	curlyears: lm-sensors (source: lm-sensors): utilities to read temperature/voltage/fan sensors. In component universe, is extra. Version 1:3.4.0-2 (xenial), package size 83 kB, installed size 367 kB	22:03
k1l_	Xpistos: something on creating that usb went wrong	22:04
OerHeks	curlyears, that answer you could find in the url from ubottu	22:04
Xpistos	k1l_: I will make another with my mint system and unetbootin	22:04
Xpistos	but I have done this several times already	22:04
k1l_	Xpistos: how did you do this one?	22:04
Xpistos	k1l_: same way on different computers	22:05
OerHeks	Xpowhat is on that hdd ? windows with bitlocker or is it a UEFI system??	22:05
Apteryx	Hi! My dad tried to update from 15.10 to 16.04, but now Ubuntu seems to go to suspend after the splash screen LUKS passwordprompt.	22:05
k1l_	Xpistos: tried "dd"?	22:05
Xpistos	k1l_: on the target system?	22:05
Apteryx	I feel it's probably not really suspended because he says he can still hear fans spinning.	22:05
k1l_	Xpistos: "dd" to create the live usb	22:06
* zykotick9 suggests NOT using unetbootin with hybrid iso images		22:06
* zykotick9 would also suggest using cp over dd, but ymmv there...		22:06
Xpistos	k1l_: No I have never done that before	22:06
chili555	Islah1: Back but I only have a couple of minutes. Is the driver installed? Working as expected?	22:06
Xpistos	k1l_: I am willing to do it if you give me the commad	22:06
Xpistos	command	22:06
Islah1	Still trying to figure out way to install it without internet connection :p @ chili555	22:07
zykotick9	"sudo cp foo.iso /dev/sdb" IF sdb is your darget drive!	22:07
zykotick9	s/darget/target/	22:07
zykotick9	to be safe run "sync" afterwords.	22:07
chili555	Islah1: Do you have the Ubutntu install DVD or USB? The package and its dependency dkms are on there.	22:08
chili555	Islah1: Gotta zoom. Sorry.	22:08
k1l_	Xpistos: the cp command from zykotick9 should work too	22:08
zayd	i have a problem with wifi connection	22:09
Xpistos	k1l_: "sudo cp foo.iso /dev/sdb" got it	22:09
zykotick9	Xpistos: note, you might need "sudo sync"... not sure, can't test.	22:10
ctjctj	sync never needs root privs	22:11
Islah1	ugh	22:11
Islah1	this is never going to work :(	22:11
zykotick9	ctjctj: thanks.	22:11
Xpistos	zykotick9: what is "s/darget/target/"	22:11
Apteryx	Actually, it has nothing to do with suspend, but with the video signal being lost after grub loads.	22:11
zykotick9	substitue darget for target	22:11
Xpistos	zykotick9: got yah	22:12
zykotick9	Xpistos: regex ftw ;)	22:12
ctjctj	the 's' is ed/ex/vim/sed for "substitute" the character after is the demark. The regex in between first and second demarks is your search pattern and the text between the second and third is the replacement text.	22:12
Xpistos	zykotick9: I will let you know in a few minutes. have to redownload the iso and ... my regex fu is not strong	22:12
zykotick9	Xpistos: re "my regex fu is not strong" <- nor is mine... really ;)	22:13
ctjctj	regex is a write only language.	22:13
* ctjctj has good regex foo. "And it is STILL write only"		22:13
curlyears	why does this: find / 'lm-sensor' result in a humongous list of when seems to be every file of every directory on my SSD? I have gone over the instructions in the man page, and I thought this is what I needed.	22:16
zykotick9	curlyears: "find / -name 'lm-sensor'	22:17
zykotick9	or -iname without case sensitivity.	22:17
curlyears	I did apt-get install on lm-sensors. Apt-get informs me that it is installed. Yet, when I try to type lm-sensors it sayd "command not found"	22:17
Islah1	Anyone reccomend a lightweight linux distro that has broadcom driver support for wifi? Lubuntu is giving me too much of a headache trying to figure this sh*t out :(	22:17
lordcirth	Islah1, is it a really new adapter?	22:18
curlyears	zykotick9: I tried -iname it maade no difference	22:18
Islah1	Not really @ lordcirth	22:18
Islah1	I dont think so at least	22:18
Islah1	its a broadcom 14e4:4365	22:19
Islah1	i tried installing bcmwl kernel source via the ubuntu install files and i get a gcc error	22:19
lordcirth	Islah1, there's a support thread that got it working in 2012	22:20
squinty	curlyears, might want to install mlocate and then run the following commands sudo updatedb && locate <program name>	22:20
Islah1	Where at? I feel like i've tried everything on the internet	22:20
Islah1	@ lordcirth	22:20
lordcirth	Islah1, https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1145360#p1145360	22:20
Islah1	ill look at it, thanks @ lordcirth	22:21
lordcirth	Islah1, actually this looks better: http://askubuntu.com/questions/175104/how-do-i-install-bcm43142-wireless-drivers-for-dell-vostro-3460-3560	22:21
Xpistos	zykotick9: iso is downloaded now running the cp command	22:22
lordcirth	It's for 12.04 tho, so ymmv	22:22
squinty	curlyears, you can also use the "which" command to locate executables. eg which firefox (type in terminal)	22:22
arm_986-80486xf	pastebin.com/u4TFr42L <- The *NEW Hunter Reon Barnes Infinity Generator	22:23
Xpistos	zykotick9: better ext4 or fat32?	22:23
Islah1	@ lordcirth if i need to install pre-reqs such as "sudo apt-get install build-essential dkms" like it says, how can i do that with no internet connection?	22:24
lordcirth	Islah1, does your laptop not have an ethernet port?	22:24
Islah1	nope, it's a netbook and it doesnt have one :(	22:25
Islah1	thats why its making it so difficult	22:25
lordcirth	Islah1, how are you on IRC right now?	22:25
Islah1	my desktop	22:26
lordcirth	Islah1, you have a USB stick? You can download the packages there and move them across	22:26
fff	do you really need to use swap?	22:27
Islah1	I do have a usb stick yeah	22:27
Islah1	which packages do i need exactly?	22:27
k1l_	fff: no. if you have enough ram and dont want to use hibternation	22:28
k1l_	*hibernation	22:28
fff	is it possible to use swap on a flash drive	22:28
lordcirth	fff, yes, but you will wear it out	22:29
zykotick9	Xpistos: with the cp command i gave you, it won't matter if the usb is fat or ext <- it'll be overwritten regardless (as will EVERYTHING else on that drive, so be sure the sdb is the correct one!)	22:29
lordcirth	Islah1, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Offline	22:29
Xpistos	zykotick9: solid. off we go	22:29
yuken	Will Ubuntu experience any problems if I: install it in a virtual machine (VirtualBox), convert it to a raw image (dd if = /dev/sd[whatever] of = image), then install that image onto a hard drive (dd if = image of = /dev/sd[whatever])?	22:32
curlyears	squintyy: I did this //paste.ubuntu.com/21688737/ aand then did "which lm-sensors" which comes back with no response, just a new prompt	22:33
k1l_	curlyears: any reason you still didnt run the updates?	22:33
zykotick9	curlyears: is it "Permission denied" that is being listed? "find / -iname 'lmsensor' 2>/dev/null"	22:34
curlyears	K1l: I did run the updates. lscpu tells me I am running 16.04.1 LTS	22:34
Xpistos	zykotick9: so do i just run "sync" or is there more to it ie target etc?	22:34
k1l_	curlyears: "and 153 not upgraded."	22:34
k1l_	curlyears: "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade"	22:34
curlyears	zykotick9: no. I tried runnning as sudo, to avoid any permissions issues	22:34
zykotick9	Xpistos: after it's finished, run "sync" that way all buffers will be cleared. then just reboot, or pull the drive.	22:35
Xpistos	cool I will give it a shot now	22:35
zykotick9	curlyears: note: i have lm-sensors installed, but "find / -iname lm_sensors" doesn't find anything! use "dpkg -L lm-sensors" to see what/where it installed stuff.	22:36
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squinty	curlyears, if you are looking to see what sensors are in your unit then sudo /usr/sbin/sensors-detect which is part of the lm-sensors package	22:36
curlyears	k1l: I can't post a URL because the commmand never finishes. It is stuck here: WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts.	22:37
curlyears	Extracting templates from packages: 100%	22:37
k1l_	curlyears: run that just as it is. without piping it	22:37
zykotick9	curlyears: you might want to temporarilty try apt-get instead of apt. ymmv.	22:38
curlyears	it finally finishedd: http://paste.ubuntu.com/21689299/	22:38
fff	does apt-get compile the program?	22:39
dax	no	22:39
Xpistos	zykotick9: I am still getting the 0 bytes disk space error	22:39
Apachez	nice bug, if you set "turn screen off when inactive for" to "never" while you have "Lock" set to "On" and "Lock screen after" set to "10 minutes" and enabled for "Require my password when waking from suspend" the screenlock doesnt seem to apply	22:39
k1l_	curlyears: your alephobjects.com 3rd party repo is rubbish and that package used from there is not properly build	22:39
Apachez	or could be my optical mouse who is sending various small movements even if im not in the room	22:39
zykotick9	fff: not usually. you can compile stuff from <foo-src> repos, but that's unusal. it's mostly binary packages, 99.9% of the time.	22:40
Xpistos	zykotick9: when I try to look in the drive using disk analyzer it says permissions denied???	22:40
fff	use chmod	22:40
Greeley	curlyears have you tried apt-get clean to remove that package and have apt-get download it again?	22:41
curlyears	k1l: not again???? Lulzbot automatically creats those entries in my repo lists, in order to dowload and insta;; the software necessary to support y 3D printer.	22:41
zykotick9	Xpistos: sorry, i wouldn't know. but in my opinion, running anything as gui with elevated privs. is kinda insane...	22:41
k1l_	curlyears: if you really want to install that 3rd party package you could manually force it	22:41
Xpistos	k1l_: tried using the CP method with no change	22:42
curlyears	k1l: yes, I suppose I could, if I knew how to dothat. What do I need to read?	22:42
fff	they will cause conflicting	22:42
curlyears	k1l: and just for my elucidation, what, precisely, do you mean by "those entries are rubbish?"	22:43
curlyears	I am going to have to report this to alephobjects, obviously	22:43
fff	rubbish means trash	22:44
k1l_	curlyears: sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/libjpeg8_8d1-2_amd64.deb	22:44
k1l_	curlyears: see lines 84-86 from your paste	22:44
Xpistos	k1l_: libparted warning, the driver descriptor says the physical block size is 2048, but linux says it is 512 bytes	22:45
k1l_	curlyears: they want to overwrite stuff that is handled by an ubuntu package. that is against .deb guidelines. they should remove the ubuntu package and install their own 3rd party version of it instead of keeping both packages on the system	22:45
SuperMechaCow	Xpistos: I had that error when partioning my SSDs for installation	22:45
Xpistos	k1l_: but I am not trying to format the usb only the hard drive	22:45
fff	4.6 changed the default ext4 from 4k to 2k	22:46
k1l_	Xpistos: that doesnt matter. that is because the .iso image had a different sector size than the usb. but that doesnt matter	22:46
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Xpistos	k1l_: I whiped the main drive and reformated it to one big partition 931.51 gb	22:47
curlyears	k1l: ok, got it. I can still use the software they installed, if I remove their entries fro the repo list, right?	22:47
Xpistos	k1l_: it is telling me ubi-* pacakges are failing, language, partman etc	22:48
k1l_	curlyears: i guess they had a reason to ship that version. i dont know. i would ask them and maybe force the install as i sais.	22:48
k1l_	*said	22:48
curlyears	can't ask them until tomorrow :(	22:49
k1l_	then do it tomorrow. as long as your system is running so far, there is no need to touch that now	22:50
fff	dpkg configure -a	22:50
k1l_	fff: no	22:50
SuperMechaCow	woops	22:51
Xpistos	k1l_: I checked in /var/log/syslog and it says errors like this over and over paste.ubuntu.com/21690676	22:51
Xpistos	http://paste.ubuntu.com/21690676	22:52
k1l_	Xpistos: asus laptop?	22:53
chili555	Islah1: Did you get it fixed?	22:53
Xpistos	yes	22:53
Islah1	nope :( @chili555	22:53
Islah1	im hopeless	22:53
chili555	Islah1: Do you have the Ubuntu install DVD or USB?	22:54
Islah1	yeah on a USB i do	22:54
Islah1	@chili555	22:54
andai	Hi, how can I know if ubuntu is using the right drivers for my graphics card? I get screen tearing. In the Drivers utility there's nothing about graphics	22:54
dax	what card?	22:55
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k1l_	Xpistos: sounds like a asus issue.	22:56
chili555	Islah1: Insert it and navigate to pool > pool > restricted > b > bcmwl and drag and drop the bcmwl-kernel-source .deb file to your desktop. Then...	22:56
k1l_	Xpistos: bug 1521173	22:56
ubottu	bug 1521173 in linux (Ubuntu Xenial) "AER: Corrected error received: id=00e0" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1521173	22:56
SuperMechaCow	andai: did you go to the "Additional Drivers" in the "Software & Updates" utility?	22:56
k1l_	Xpistos: try kernel mode pci=noaer setting on startup	22:56
chili555	Islah1: do the same with pool > main > d > dkms and drag and drop the dkms .deb file to your desktop. Next...	22:57
Xpistos	k1l_: clicked on edit the startup, should I just drop that at the bottom?	22:57
chili555	Islah1: Install them both by right-clicking and allowing the Software Center to install.	22:57
Islah1	GDebi package installer	22:58
zykotick9	andai: does "lspci -v \| grep -i vga" say you have Intel? if so, you're probably using the right driver (from the kernel). i don't think i've ever had "no tearing" in my years with various graphics cards/setups under X. ymmmv?	22:58
Islah1	will that work?	22:58
k1l_	!nomodeset \| Xpistos do it like described in this link just with pci=noaer instead of nomodeset	22:58
ubottu	Xpistos do it like described in this link just with pci=noaer instead of nomodeset: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter	22:58
Islah1	@chili555	22:58
chili555	Islah1: It should, but I'll help you if there is a snag.	22:58
Islah1	(I dont have software center cause im on lubuntu) :P	22:59
Islah1	Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: gcc	22:59
andai	zykotick9: Yep! Then I guess my integrated card is just too crappy for 3D acceleration on VMWare	22:59
Islah1	@chili555	22:59
chili555	Islah1: you can install from the terminal: cd ~/Desktop	22:59
chili555	Islah1: sudo dpkg -i dkms*.deb	22:59
chili555	Islah1: sudo dpkg -i bcmwl-kernel-source*.deb and then reboot.	23:00
Islah1	got an error when trying to install dkms @chili555	23:00
chili555	Islah1: Uhhhh, what is it??	23:01
Xpistos	k1l_: I added it right after the quiet splash and lets see what we get	23:01
Islah1	dkms depends on gcc; however; gcc is not installed. dkms depends on make \| build-essential \| dpkg-dev; however; package make is not installed. Package build-essential is not installed. Package dpkg-dev is not installed	23:01
Islah1	@chili555	23:02
k1l_	Xpistos: yeah. that was the reason for the full disk. it was making that much errors in the logs, that the live system ran out of space	23:02
Xpistos	k1l_: I am already further along!!! Thanks I will report back	23:02
chili555	Islah1: All those things are already installed on plain old Ubuntu. Are you sure lubuntu is good for you? Or else, are you certain you can't get an ethernet connection for a few moments? From a friend?	23:03
Xpistos	k1l_: crap. happened again. but atleast I have an idea of where this maybe be going	23:03
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Islah1	The laptop im using (notebook) doesn't have an ethernet port	23:04
Islah1	Or else i would have used it long ago	23:04
Islah1	I just want a lightweight distro for this thing :(	23:04
Xpistos	k1l_: same crap but I will keep searching	23:05
lordcirth	Islah1, there are USB-to-Ethernet adapters, if you're ok with spending $20.	23:05
lordcirth	Or borrowing one	23:05
Islah1	I'll have to see if any friends have one, anyone else know of another good lightweight distro?	23:05
chili555	Islah1: The only thing left is to go to http://packages.ubuntu.com and get all those packages, build-essential, gcc, make, etc. appropriate to your Ubuntu version and architecture (32- or 64-bit) and install each one. Sorry.	23:06
lordcirth	Islah1,BunsenLabs	23:06
* zykotick9 has wanted a usb->ethernet for quite a while, he's never actually seen one to purchase, in real life (and be able to confirm it would work with only free drivers) :(		23:06
chili555	Islah1: You might try xubuntu.	23:06
lordcirth	zykotick9, I've only used them at work	23:06
Islah1	is xubuntu lightweight? @chili555	23:06
fff	broadcom might work	23:07
lordcirth	Islah1, lubuntu's lxde is lighter than xubuntu's xfce, but it is still quite light.	23:07
Islah1	Alright, ill look at it. This little notebook only has 2GB of ram	23:07
Islah1	so i want it as light as possible =p	23:07
Xpistos	k1l_: that bug was posted to as recently as yesterday so I will follow it and hopefully there will be a solution soon. Thanks again!	23:07
fff	mate uses around 600mb of ram	23:07
lordcirth	Islah1, https://www.bunsenlabs.org/	23:08
lordcirth	Or Arch with Openbox or a tiling WM :P	23:08
chili555	Islah1: yes, I use it on a 32-bit old Thinkpad and it runs very well with its wheezing CPU fan which threatens to die every day!	23:08
k1l_	Xpistos: i would look if there is some bios update for that machine	23:08
Islah1	Alright, ill try them both =p	23:08
Islah1	thanks for helping atleast :)	23:08
lordcirth	Islah1, VM's are your friend! (On your desktop, obv)	23:08
brenda	Hi, I have am intel Celeron notebook, what is the less CPU intensive way to watch Youtube hd videos?	23:09
fff	enlightenment	23:09
Xpistos	k1l_: will do. It has been wiped so may be hard to get the flash to go	23:09
chili555	Islah1: And then I removed everything I thought I wouldn't need, mailreader, etc.	23:09
Islah1	Yeah i only intend on using it for light browsing/coding	23:09
Islah1	and taking notes in class	23:09
ross`	can someone tell me why the xen installer kernel/ramdisk segfaults during dhcp configuration?	23:09
fff	or icewm	23:10
chili555	Islah1: Good luck, my friend!	23:11
lordcirth	brenda, running them in a browser doesn't work? You could use youtube-dl to download them, then play them with vlc	23:12
fff	wget	23:13
brenda	lordcirth, in Chrome and Firefox I get a CPU load of 80-100%	23:14
lordcirth	brenda, yeah, try youtube-dl	23:14
brenda	lordcirth, mpv installs youtube-dl... but I do not get it to work...	23:16
lordcirth	brenda, using it through mpv, or by itself?	23:16
brenda	lordcirth, mpv link --no-video give me a lot of youtube-dl errors	23:17
fff	https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/download-youtube/	23:17
brenda	lordcirth, que mpv	23:17
fff	downloads as mp4	23:18
lordcirth	brenda, so you only want the audio to play?	23:18
brenda	lordcirth, with mpv	23:18
brenda	lordcirth, no, audio and video	23:18
lordcirth	brenda, then why --no-video ?	23:19
Xpistos	k1l_: Bios is current as of 2013. just have to wait and see what comes out of bug report	23:19
brenda	fff, it is nice to download some videos but it is not what I want	23:20
brenda	lordcirth, acording to man mpv --no-video sends the link to be procesed by youtube-dl	23:21
bytesaber	does Conanical dislike projects such as lubuntu, xubuntu, ubuntu-gnome ?	23:21
brenda	lordcirth, am I doing it wrong?	23:22
lordcirth	{l,k,x}buntu are official	23:22
lordcirth	brenda, yes, --no-video is sound-only, like for music videos	23:22
bytesaber	lordcirth, I was actually googling trying to find somekind of "stance" or statement on that. By chance know of something that helps claim that?	23:22
lordcirth	brenda, however, it's not working for me either, looks like yt changed their formats. There's a new version of youtube-dl that's not packaged yet	23:23
OerHeks	bytesaber, strange question, those are official supported.	23:23
OerHeks	!flavor	23:23
ubottu	Recognized Ubuntu flavors build on Ubuntu and provide a different user experience out of the box. They are supported both in #ubuntu and in their flavor channel. The current list is: !Edubuntu, !Ubuntu-GNOME, !Kubuntu, Ubuntu !Kylin, !Lubuntu, !Mythbuntu, Ubuntu !Studio, !Xubuntu, and Ubuntu !MATE	23:23
bytesaber	Trying to comprehend what the difference between Xubuntu, and Ubuntu with XFCE installed, is.	23:23
toxik	There's different software used	23:23
toxik	That's about it	23:23
bytesaber	In the end, wouldn't it be the same in either case?	23:24
z0ran	16.04 is totally awesome, it doesnt use at all cpu like 14.04 use to and it is easy on ram too....great job!	23:24
bytesaber	Xubuntu 14, out of the can, seems to have a different menu bar, than Ubuntu with XFCE installed after install.	23:24
jottr	Hi all. On ubuntu what does echo $OS_TYPE return?	23:24
jottr	s/$OS_TYPE/$OSTYPE	23:25
lordcirth	Kylin is official? Interesting	23:25
Islah1	Installing xubuntu, hopefully it works :)	23:25
lordcirth	jottr, linux-gnu	23:25
jottr	lordcirth: thx	23:25
toxik	I've had very few problems with Xubuntu	23:25
brenda	lordcirth, YT does that once in while :-/	23:26
lordcirth	z0ran, and most importantly, ZFS support!	23:26
bytesaber	Or better yet, why wouldn't it be something like www.ubuntu.org/xubuntu /lubuntu ..etc	23:26
z0ran	I know....totally rocks	23:26
z0ran	I canto	23:26
lordcirth	bytesaber, as opposed to what?	23:27
z0ran	I cannot believe how big diference is on my cpu	23:27
lordcirth	Oh, instead of websites	23:27
z0ran	that is unbelievable	23:27
z0ran	and I have ff, chromium, chrome and vbox running	23:28
z0ran	such a great job they did this time....bravo!	23:28
bytesaber	lordcirth, They jsut all feel like fan websites / projects, following ubuntu's work. It's not a complaint. Just trying to grasp what's going on in the world.	23:28
toxik	16.04 is absolutely rock solid, and it makes me extremely happy	23:30
Islah1	aaaaand xubuntu didnt recognize drivers either :( @chili555	23:31
Islah1	sweet	23:31
lordcirth	brenda, I got it working!	23:31
lordcirth	brenda, I installed pip and used pip to install the latest youtube-dl	23:31
robotbeta	I am using Lubuntu Netbook on this 2002 Sony PCG-FXA63. I feel content with life.	23:32
Islah1	time to try your suggestion @lordcirth	23:32
bytesaber	linux and ssd's. giving live to old PC's	23:32
bytesaber	life	23:32
brenda	lordcirth, I was thinking of doing the same thing :)	23:32
robotbeta	I am going to upgrade the hard drive, ram, and maybe the CPU.	23:33
brenda	lordcirth, what is the pip command for downloading the latest version?	23:33
lordcirth	robotbeta, that model allows cpu upgrades?	23:33
robotbeta	Then, I will go try updating to 14.04 (I am at 12.04)	23:33
lordcirth	brenda, pip install youtube-dl	23:33
robotbeta	I am looking into it.	23:33
robotbeta	I am sure.	23:34
brenda	lordcirth, what is 2 simple :)	23:34
robotbeta	You just gotta make sure you know what you are doing.	23:34
lordcirth	robotbeta, if you're upgrading from 12, and replacing the harddrive, why not just fresh install 16.04?	23:34
robotbeta	Well, I don't want to rush in.	23:34
robotbeta	I see what is going to be best.	23:34
lordcirth	I don't see any reason to install 14.04 when 16.04.1 is out	23:35
robotbeta	The computer is old.	23:35
robotbeta	14 years	23:35
Islah1	alright lets give burner a try @lordcith	23:36
lordcirth	robotbeta, z0ran was just saying that 16.04 was faster than 14.04 for him.	23:36
robotbeta	Oh.	23:36
robotbeta	Yeah.	23:36
lordcirth	robotbeta, but if it's 14 years old, I'd be using Xubuntu.	23:36
lordcirth	Although I question the value of a CPU upgrade to a computer that old.	23:37
toxik	Xubuntu, or alternatively Lubuntu	23:37
robotbeta	I like Lubuntu best.	23:37
lordcirth	Anything compatible with it will be nearly as old and have to find	23:37
lordcirth	s/have/hard	23:37
robotbeta	I found the processor, in the same family as it.	23:37
Islah1	for install should i do normal install or graphical install @lordcirth	23:38
Islah1	for bunsenlabs	23:38
toxik	Can you unmount it from the socket, though?	23:38
robotbeta	But it still is an upgrade by 333 mega hertz	23:38
lordcirth	Islah1, may as well do graphical. It's just a standard debian installer	23:38
Islah1	ah ok	23:38
lordcirth	robotbeta, from what?	23:38
robotbeta	It is an AMD processor 1.4 giga hertz	23:38
robotbeta	right now	23:38
lordcirth	from 1.4 to 1.7Ghz? Not sure that's worth the money and hassle	23:39
toxik	If anything, I would recommend just getting a SSD if you haven't already	23:39
robotbeta	I don't think I can.	23:40
toxik	What model is your laptop again?	23:40
robotbeta	2002 Sony PCG-FXA63	23:40
robotbeta	Originally came with Windows XP.	23:40
zykotick9	toxik: the SSD upgrade is always fantastic (assuming the system has sata to do it!) much better than cpu or ram IMO.	23:41
robotbeta	From what I have researched, it can only do HDD.	23:41
zykotick9	robotbeta: :(	23:41
robotbeta	I have only found HDDs	23:41
z0ran	ssd goes with fast cpu for best results	23:42
z0ran	intel cpu	23:42
ross`	why does the xen install kernel keep segfaulting at random times?!?	23:42
robotbeta	I have an AMD.	23:42
robotbeta	hueheuehue	23:42
ross`	xenial	23:42
robotbeta	AMD Athlon, which is 32 bit.	23:42
z0ran	amd is to slow...i know the diference when i get i7 from amd	23:42
robotbeta	I like AMDs personally.	23:42
z0ran	that is huge difference	23:43
Islah1	Doesnt look like bunsenlabs will detect my network hardware either @lordcirth :(	23:43
toxik	AMD will compete with Intel on performance soon	23:43
z0ran	i mean hugeee....like i was in stone age with amd	23:43
lordcirth	z0ran, there are fast AMD CPUs too.	23:43
robotbeta	There are.	23:43
z0ran	not like intel....not even close	23:43
lordcirth	I am waiting for Zen to come out next year to build my new PC.	23:43
* zykotick9 is stuck with intel pre-i3 cause he doesn't want any ME stuff :(		23:43
z0ran	i7 is king of cpu....trust me i jad amd for long time	23:44
lordcirth	zykotick9, management engine?	23:44
robotbeta	AMD makes some good things.	23:44
zykotick9	lordcirth: yup.	23:44
robotbeta	I am gonna go.	23:44
z0ran	cost money but it is worth every dime	23:44
toxik	robotbeta: After doing some research onto your laptop, I think you'd be better off to buy a new laptop than try to upgrade yours.	23:44
brenda	z0ran, u r right, SSD performance on AMD chipset is not as good as INte´	23:44
brenda	intel	23:44
toxik	I don't see any noticeable difference between my i5 build and my fx-8350 with SSD's	23:45
lordcirth	zykotick9, have you looked at ARM64?	23:45
lordcirth	SATA speed is not bound by CPU manufacturer	23:46
lordcirth	NVMe, maybe.	23:46
z0ran	uuu	23:46
Islah1	I might just have to install windows @lordcirth and see if it is a network card issue	23:47
z0ran	intel skylike i7 and nvme...that is something	23:48
toxik	What's your problem, Islah1?	23:48
zykotick9	lordcirth: not really. i have an "ARMv7 Processor rev 2 (v7l)" powering my irc box ;) it's a Beagle Bone Black (bbb). i don't think any of the arm64 boards meet my freedom requirement right now :(	23:48
Islah1	toxik it seems no linux distros i've tried today will recognize my broadcom network card (Im on a notebook laptop with no ethernet port)	23:48
Islah1	ive tried lubuntu, xubuntu, and now bunsenlabs	23:48
Islah1	but other distros like ElementaryOS recognized it just fine	23:49
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toxik	Just wondering, have you tried a a WiFi dongle?	23:49
toxik	They're great for fixing driver issues. Absolute lifesaver	23:50
Islah1	I had one but i cant find it :s	23:50
Islah1	ill look around for it	23:50
lordcirth	zykotick9, there's also the RISC-V project, you should keep an eye on that	23:52
zykotick9	lordcirth: thanks. but this is OT for #ubuntu ;) ps. i keep my ear close to the ground on those things	23:53
brenda	lordcirth, I installed pip and installed the latest youtube.dl and it now works also for me	23:53
brenda	lordcirth, thank u 4 that tip	23:54
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lordcirth	brenda, np. Saw it on youtube-dl github	23:54
zykotick9	brenda: fyi, you certainly don't need pip to install the latest youtube.dl, it's just a script you can drop in ~/bin	23:55
lordcirth	zykotick9, yeah, they apparently recommend pip though. updates and so on	23:55
Islah1	hey @toxik	23:57
zykotick9	lordcirth: while i see there point. i don't really believe it's a good idea to have to conflicting packages managers on one system (my only exception to that rule was a brief experiment with Guix).	23:57
Islah1	i may have found a USB to ethernet cord	23:57
Islah1	would that work possibly	23:57
lordcirth	Islah1, hopefully	23:57
zykotick9	lordcirth: s/good idea to have to/good idea to have two/	23:57
ross`	can someone please please please tell me why the xenial xen installer kernel and ramdisk keep segfaulting at different random times during the installation process	23:58
ross`	I have tried to install ubuntu 8 times now	23:58
ross`	and it keeps segfaulting at different parts	23:59
toxik	Have you tried flashing a new image to install it yet?	23:59
ross`	flashing a new image?	23:59
Ben64	ross`: sounds like a bad image or bad hardware	23:59

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