[00:06] <Sik> I was about to update from Ubuntu 14.04 to 16.04 and now I'm looking at the list of packages it wants to remove and it wants to get rid of Audacious and XChat? The heck? (and PHP 5? I mean I know PHP 7 is around but it doesn't look to be in the install list either...) What do I do, that sounds stupid to remove.
[00:07] <Guest57254> hello, I need help. I am trying to compile the netgear drivers for device U341 but when I execute "sudo make all" I get an error on the path where it is trying to install. the path is insude /lib/modules/version/build but the last "folder" I think is a symlink
[00:07] <Guest57254> when I tried to create a folder I got an error message saying that cannot create directory - file exists...
[00:09] <tgm4883> Sik: xchat has been replaced with hexchat
[00:09] <Sik> Er OK but what about Audacious
[00:09] <tgm4883> Sik: not sure why it's trying to remove audacious, it's still in 16.04
[00:10] <OerHeks> maybe from ppa?
[00:10] <Guest57254> the error is "make[1]: *** /lib/modules/4.1.19-v7/build: No such file or director. Stop.
[00:10] <Sik> I'd think that if it needs updating then it'd be in the update list instead? ┬»\(┬║_o)/┬» (also I suppose php can just be reinstalled, right? I don't mind switching to PHP 7 if needed)
[00:11] <Guest57254> has anyone experienced an issue similar to mine while trying to compile a driver using make all?
[00:13] <tgm4883> Sik: php5 is being removed because php7 is in 16.04
[00:13] <Sik> OK I guess it's just not installing it by default (I'd have expected it to be smarter than that :P but can cope, I was planning to update that anyway)
[00:14] <tgm4883> Sik: no, php5 isn't in 16.04 at all. That package does not exist
[00:14] <OerHeks> Guest57254, the manual suggest to use sudo checkinstall to build a .deb
[00:14] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware
[00:15] <tgm4883> Sik: same reason xchat is being removed
[00:15] <Sik> tgm4883: I mean I thought it'd replace it with php7 instead :P anyway, can confirm that audacious is there? Worst case I may need to reinstall it >.>;
[00:15] <tgm4883> because the package no longer exists
[00:15] <tgm4883> ah yea
[00:15] <Sik> Eh, maybe the package got renamed and I'm tripping over the same issue as with XChat and PHP
[00:15] <tgm4883> Sik: do you have the php package (not php5) installed in 14.04?
[00:16] <Sik> yes
[00:16] <Sik> Er or... OK dunno :D
[00:16] <Sik> Doesn't matter I'll just install php7 manually :P
[00:16] <Sik> Let's hope the video side of things keep working after the upgrade ( ┬Ę┬Ę) (got a copy of the minimal installer just in case...)
[00:16] <Guest57254> OerHeks: I might have a very old package then because that is not part of the instructions. Where did you find the info?
[00:16] <skinux> I need someone to help me figure out what package(s) I'm missing for having a launchable VLC. Here is an image of list of all VLC packages I've installed. https://imgur.com/a/9rLUM
[00:17] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware
[00:17] <tgm4883> Sik: if you had the php package installed in 14.04, i'd expect it to install php7 as part of the upgrade
[00:17] <tgm4883> http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/php
[00:24] <skinux> Does 16.04 come with a DVD ripper out of the box?
[00:25] <YankDownUnder> skinux: You can very quickly and easily install "Handbrake".
[00:25] <skinux> Not without internet I can't.
[00:25] <YankDownUnder> skinux: Ah. Right. Well, that's true.
[00:26] <OerHeks> with dd you can 'rip' an iso
[00:26] <skinux> By the way, I put in an actual Wireless CARD into the machine PCI, it sees it but again won't give me a way to connect to any wireless.
[00:28] <skinux> YankDownUnder: My problems would be over if I could just get VLC installed properly. I installed the packages for it, but the system says it doesn't exist
[00:28] <tgm4883> skinux: did you compile VLC?
[00:28] <skinux> Nah, installed it via packages
[00:29] <skinux> Here you can see all the packages I installed. https://imgur.com/a/9rLUM
[00:29] <Guest57254> OerHeks: I am having the same error while executing checkinstall. there seems to be a problem with the target directory
[00:29] <tgm4883> skinux: yea I was looking at that, and I don't see the actual VLC package
[00:31] <YankDownUnder> vlc, vlc-data, x264
[00:31] <tgm4883> skinux: you're taking these packages to a 16.04 box?
[00:57] <delac> trying to get bridged vpn set up. Have only default pptp vpn packages installed. Creating a new bridge - there is no vpn option in the "Bridged connections". Is there a way to proceed?
[01:04] <Peetz0r> ohai! when I use uqiquity to install ubuntu-mate and in the process ask it to make a new partition table,does it create an MBR or an GPT table?
[01:07] <YankDownUnder> Peetz0r: Kinda lost on your question - are you trying to install the "Mate" desktop inside of an already existing Ubuntu installation, or something different?
[01:08] <Peetz0r> skinux: for ripping video dvd's, just copy the VIDEO_TS folder somewhere
[01:08] <Peetz0r> it's lossless and fast and always works (and vlc understands video_ts folders)
[01:08] <Peetz0r> YankDownUnder: i'm tryong to install ubuntu-mate (the distro) but this question would probably apply to all ubuntu flavors
[01:09] <Bashing-om> Peetz0r: Whichever, In a "manual" install .. the installed in UEFI mode == GPT .. with the legacy partitioning == msdos .
[01:09] <Peetz0r> when in the installer, you click the "new partition table" button, what kind of partition table does it write?
[01:09] <Peetz0r> Bashing-om: how do i check which mode the installer thinks it's in?
[01:10] <Peetz0r> would be nice to display thos somewhere in the installer (especially when manually partitioning)
[01:10] <Peetz0r> this*
[01:10] <avis> with GPT you often need a 1000MB bios reserved partition, then the rest works, and often partitions are in order.
[01:10] <Peetz0r> I know that, that was not my question
[01:11] <Bashing-om> Peetz0r: If the directory /sys/firmware/efi/ exists then you're booted via UEFI, and the installer will therefore try to install for UEFI .
[01:12] <Peetz0r> ok, thanks
[01:17] <sabat> Anyone have any experience with TotalVPN? Their website has instructions for Mint & Fedora. I figured with ubuntu & mint both being debian based that it would also work on ubuntu but I'm having no luck.
[01:29] <aFeijo_> no more xchat for ubuntu 16, which one do you guys use?
[01:29] <derfoh> I use theloung
[01:30] <gbaker> HexChat, basically same thing.
[01:30] <sabat> irssi is nice
[01:30] <derfoh> https://thelounge.github.io/
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[01:30] <aFeijo_> sabat: I'm using irssi, interesting but too different for my taste
[01:30] <derfoh> worth ccheking out the lounge if you are good with node https://thelounge.github.io/
[01:30] <aFeijo_> gbaker: I'll test, thanks
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[01:30] <Ravness> I have a question, How do I extend the battery life using Ubuntu? I also have Win10 dualbooted but it basically uses less battery
[01:31] <Ravness> I can get another hr at it even with using spotify or watching a movie than I would in Ubuntu
[01:35] <nicomachus> Ravness: see here for tips and tricks: https://askubuntu.com/questions/400/tips-to-extend-battery-life-for-laptops-and-notebooks
[01:36] <Ravness> Thanks, i'll check it out
[01:37] <miles> So, I am installing Lubuntu 14.04 on my 2002 Sony Vaio PCG-FXA63. During installation the screen goes black and at one point the screen was flickering.
[01:38] <miles> Should I try a different Desktop Environment?
[01:39] <miles> Any help?
[01:39] <Bashing-om> !nomodeset | miles
[01:40] <aFeijo_> gbaker: I like it, thanks!!!
[01:40] <gbaker> aFeijo_: No prob :)
[01:45] <miles> I can't find the option in my BIOS. Is there another way?
[01:47] <miles> I found it actually
[01:48] <miles> When I press enter over the selected option on the cd installation menu, it makes an x by it.
[01:48] <miles> Any help?
[01:51] <biswas> Hello guys, My update manager froze when it was updating mokutil. Now I my wifi is shown as UNCLAIMED in lspc -C network
[01:51] <biswas> I cannot use it
[01:56] <skinux> tgm4883: Yeah, I'm downloading packages on this laptop and taking them to a 16.04 box
[01:57] <skinux> I really just need whatever package I'm missing for executable VLC. I've installed most of them: ttps://imgur.com/a/9rLUM
[01:57] <tgm4883> skinux: is your laptop Ubuntu?
[01:57] <skinux> Ubuntu 14.04.1
[01:57] <hsphost> hi
[01:58] <skinux> I'm waiting for 16.04 upgrade to be available to upgrade this laptop.
[01:58] <tgm4883> skinux: why aren't you using the offline stuff then?
[01:58] <tgm4883> !offline
[01:58] <skinux> What do you mean by using the offline stuff?
[01:58] <tgm4883> That way is way easier
[02:00] <skinux> Would I generate the script on 16.04 or 14.04.1?
[02:02] <tgm4883> !aptoncd
[02:02] <skinux> I can't burn discs, my drive never does it successfully.
[02:02] <sikun> so last night I was wondering around walmart and I noticed they had 32GB flash drives for like $8 or something, so I bought for of them and a 4 port USB hub. I just got around to plugging them all in and creating a RAID 0 array using all four drives.
[02:02] <skinux> I have to use USB to copy from this laptop to 16.04
[02:03] <sikun> pointless? yes. but I have a question about it
[02:03] <jookiyaya> is ubuntu debian based  distro?
[02:03] <sikun> yes
[02:03] <jookiyaya> then why is ubuntu more popular than debian
[02:04] <sikun> because it was at first directly targeted as a Desktop OS
[02:04] <sikun> and it's ease of use
[02:04] <tgm4883> skinux: you could probably put that on a usb
[02:04] <skinux> Put which on a USB? APTonCD?
[02:04] <jookiyaya> what other "major based distros" are out there other than debian
[02:04] <sikun> hmm
[02:04] <tgm4883> skinux: yes
[02:05] <sikun> CentOS, RHEL, Slackware, Gentoo
[02:05] <skinux> I'm willing to give it a try
[02:05] <tgm4883> !ot | jookiyaya
[02:05] <sikun> uh, Arch
[02:05] <sikun> a whole crap load, I'm sure there is a wikipedia article that covers them all
[02:06] <skinux> I need to look for a driver for Mervell Technology Group 88w8335 Wireless as well
[02:06] <tgm4883> Major based distros? There's 3. Debian, redhat, and Slackware
[02:07] <jookiyaya> tgm4883 what about centos/gentoo/arch ? they are major based
[02:07] <jookiyaya> they are not*
[02:07] <sikun> ok, I did have a question with my 4x 32GB soft RAID 0 array.. hahaha, if I plug this hub into another Ubuntu machine, are the drives flagged by mdadm as being configured in a raid?
[02:07] <sikun> jookiya: give me a second, and join #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:07] <Apteryx> Hi! I'm using Remmina on Ubuntu 14.04 to remote to Ubuntu 15.10. Upon connectiing, I don't see the desktop. If I manually resize the window, I see the desktop, but it doesn't refresh except for the mouse. Any idea?
[02:07] <tgm4883> jookiyaya: nope
[02:08] <jookiyaya> tgm4833 why is  siken saying it is
[02:08] <sikun> jookiyaya: everything is differnet, well except for like CentOS which is RHEL or OpenSUSE is SUSE
[02:08] <sikun> some have forks
[02:08] <sikun> you asked what are all the other major distros
[02:08] <sikun> you didn't specify debian
[02:08] <sikun> or ubuntu
[02:09] <jookiyaya> sikun  major meaning they are original based:  so ubuntu is not  sicne it's debian based
[02:09] <sikun> Ubuntu has become it's own
[02:09] <Apteryx> sikun: I would think so. If I remember correctly the raid array information is recorded in the drives' headers. I could be wrong.
[02:09] <sikun> but it's roots are debian
[02:10] <sikun> there are forks from Ubuntu, such as Xubuntu, Lubuntu, hell.. many more.
[02:10] <skinux> Wait. APTonCD wil give me the 14.04 version not the 16.04 version
[02:10] <jookiyaya> sikun so it's not  major
[02:10] <sikun> jookiyaya: what is not major?
[02:10] <sikun> ubuntu?
[02:10] <jookiyaya> ubuntu
[02:10] <sikun> Ubuntu is beyond major
[02:10] <jookiyaya> but it's debian based
[02:10] <tgm4883> jookiyaya: sikun redhat, Debian, Slackware https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1b/Linux_Distribution_Timeline.svg
[02:10] <sikun> thank you tgm4883
[02:10] <tgm4883> That is it
[02:10] <sikun> the fork list
[02:11] <jookiyaya> tgm4883 so every linux distro is based on those 3 ?
[02:11] <sikun> now throw the BSD's into there too
[02:11] <tgm4883> Jookiyaya look at the image
[02:11] <Monona> Is it possible to install android apps on ubuntu?
[02:11] <sikun> no
[02:11] <tgm4883> sikun: I'm pretty sure BSD distros aren't based on Linux
[02:12] <sikun> you can run an android emulator
[02:12] <jookiyaya> how do i zoom out
[02:12] <sikun> tgm4883: I meant on how they forked like the Linux ones have
[02:12] <jookiyaya> too big
[02:12] <tgm4883> Jookiyaya idk, that would depend on what you are viewing it in
[02:12] <miles> What is the best Linux distro for me: Sony Vaio PCG-FXA63 2002 (256mb ram, amd athlon 32 bit, 20b hard drive)?
[02:13] <sikun> miles: an OS I can't recommend from this channel
[02:13] <tgm4883> miles: I might be biased because this is the Ubuntu support chat, but I'm going to say Ubuntu
[02:13] <OerHeks> Lubuntu, or openbox
[02:13] <skinux> I see my problem. Synaptic in 14.04 lists 'vlc' package, packages.ubuntu.com for 16.04 doesn't have that package.
[02:14] <jookiyaya> tgm4883  what about gentoo? i heard gentoo is original based
[02:14] <miles> I have tried installing Lubuntu, but the screen goes black.
[02:14] <tgm4883> skinux: are you sure? I thought I saw it earlier
[02:14] <miles> brb
[02:14] <skinux> I just searched for it
[02:14] <tgm4883> !info vlc
[02:15] <skinux> Well..then where is it.
[02:15] <tgm4883> skinux: but very well apparently:-)
[02:15] <tgm4883> Lol autocorrect
[02:15] <skinux> I used my browser to search for it and it wasn't any of the resulting items.
[02:16] <tgm4883> skinux: I'm pretty sure it's the top one
[02:16] <skinux>  The top one I see is browser-plugin-vlc
[02:16] <miles> back
[02:17] <tgm4883> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=xenial&section=all&arch=any&keywords=vlc&searchon=names
[02:17] <miles> What is the best Ubuntu version and Desktop Environment for me: Sony Vaio PCG-FXA63 2002 (256mb ram, amd athlon 32 bit, 20b hard drive)?
[02:17] <tgm4883> skinux: you searched with a capital v, which puts it 3 or 4 down the list
[02:18] <sikun> brb
[02:18] <skinux> No I searched using all lowercase
[02:18] <Bashing-om> !nomodeset | miles What results ?
[02:18] <tgm4883> skinux: weird, that link I just posted has it as there top result for me
[02:18] <skinux> 3 or 4 vlc-plugin-notify or vlc-plugin-sambda
[02:19] <miles> @bashing-om/ubottu I don
[02:19] <miles> don't know what results you mean
[02:19] <skinux> Okay, can you get me a link to the download page for that package?
[02:21] <Bashing-om> miles: Read the link tutirial on setting that "boot parameter" from grub .. what results when booting with the 'nomodeset' boot parameter ??
[02:22] <miles> Oh
[02:22] <OerHeks> Bashing-om, he was polling what ubuntu he should use, but he just needs to scroll back
[02:22] <tgm4883> http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/vlc
[02:25] <miles> I couldn't do anything with nomodeset or aspci at all. Pressing enter would make an X by the option.
[02:25] <skinux> Just nifty! I've downloaded it twice. It's 0 bytes
[02:25] <miles> But since it is not working and is doing nothing to my system.
[02:26] <miles> I was asking people what Ubuntu version I should use and Desktop Environment.
[02:26] <skinux> had to switch mirrors
[02:30] <skinux> FFS! A whole other list of dependencies
[02:32] <Bashing-om> miles: Not for a new user .. but there is the minimal install .. a very small footprint .
[02:33] <skinux> God damn it there just isn't any way to get this done. I gotta find a way of making wireless work!
[02:33] <linux> Hi
[02:33] <linux> I'm using Kubuntu 16.04 , Do I need upgread to 16.04.1?
[02:34] <rahtgaz> linux: No. As you upgrade from the upgrade manager, your version will change. Probably already has. type lsb_release -a
[02:35] <rahtgaz> point releases never require an explicit upgrade
[02:35] <skinux> GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH!
[02:35] <skinux> How did Canonical fuck up so much that I can't even get internet with an Ethernet cable.
[02:36] <tgm4883> skinux: I dont know what wireless you have, but if it's causing this much trouble maybe you should buy a new wireless card
[02:36] <skinux> The wireless USB adapter WAS working with Windows XP just three days ago before I wiped the drive and installed Ubuntu.
[02:37] <rahtgaz> you mean one of those usb routers? pen-like?
[02:37] <skinux> And the DAMNED thing won't work with Ethernet cable, which I tested with THIS laptop and it worked fine.
[02:38] <linux> rahtgaz Thank you , my ubuntu already was 16.04.1.
[02:38] <tgm4883> Skinux for the wireless, I want suggesting it was broken. I was suggesting purchasing one that was well supported
[02:38] <skinux> I bet the damn thing would be fine if I had connected it before actually installing
[02:38] <tgm4883> skinux: that's an easy test, pop in the live cd
[02:38] <skinux> NetGear is pretty well supported
[02:39] <rahtgaz> skinux: for sure. When it comes to wireless, if you connect during live cd, you will not be sorry
[02:39] <tgm4883> skinux: I don't think I've ever heard of a Netgear wireless chipset
[02:42] <skinux> It's technically a Broadcom
[02:42] <tgm4883> skinux: I think that proves my point
[02:44] <rahtgaz> it could even be one made by canonical, if they made them. What you want is to start over. Boot the lice CD, connect your broadcom and install ubuntu making sure you check both online options to download updates as it installs and whatever the other option is on the same screen
[02:44] <tgm4883> skinux: any wireless where you have to rip apart windows drivers in order to get it to work isn't "well supported"
[02:44] <rahtgaz> maybe one day they make lice cds. BUt for now I mean live :)
[02:44] <tgm4883> skinux: in comparison, my intel card works out of the box, that is what I would call "well supported"
[02:44]  * tgm4883 is back on his desktop now
[02:46] <Bashing-om> !bcm | skinux
[02:47] <tgm4883> skinux: what laptop is this?
[02:48] <skinux> I'm talking on a DELL 14.04
[02:48] <skinux> I'm trying to work with a Compaq Presario DESKTOP with 16.04 just installed a few days ago
[02:48] <tgm4883> skinux: no, what's the one that what model of compaq
[02:49] <skinux> Presario...came out with XP...Pentium 4
[02:49] <tgm4883> skinux: none of that is a model
[02:49] <skinux> I don't know the model
[02:50] <skinux> Why does that matter?
[02:50] <tgm4883> skinux: well I was going to try and help you...
[02:50] <skinux> I was just asking why that matters.
[02:50] <skinux> Neither of the wireless things came with the desktop.
[02:51] <tgm4883> what about the ethernet adapter
[02:51] <skinux> Cable Ethernet RJ4 or something...didn't work with it, but did with this laptop
[02:52] <tgm4883> skinux: honestly you probably need more help that I'm able to give atm. I was asking what NIC was in your desktop
[02:52] <skinux> You mean for the Wirless network card I put in or the USB Wireless adapter?
[02:53] <tgm4883> skinux: I mean for the wired card.
[02:53] <skinux> I'll have to shut down the machine and look
[02:53] <wpayuda82727> JIENNENSE R
[02:53] <wpayuda82727> F
[02:53] <wpayuda82727> DF
[02:53] <wpayuda82727> E
[02:53] <wpayuda82727> F
[02:53] <tgm4883> skinux: what's the output of "lspci | grep -i ethernet"
[02:54] <skinux> Hold on, I already told it to shut down
[02:55] <skinux> Just wondering, why do we need the model for the wired one?
[02:55] <tgm4883> skinux: If it was me, I'd probably just buy a $10 ethernet NIC on newegg with the amount of time you've spent on this.
[02:55] <tgm4883> skinux: it's a desktop. You really want to use wireless on it?
[02:55] <skinux> Yes, I can't have the cable going across the house all the time.
[02:56] <tgm4883> skinux: well minimally, we could see if having internet makes this much easier on you
[02:56] <tgm4883> skinux: you could test the live disk with your wireless cards as well, which was mentioned earlier
[02:57] <skinux> I just tested live with wireless....same problem there
[02:57] <Monona> I get this error when trying to load android iso in virtualbox: http://pastebin.com/b7eSKCs4
[02:57] <tgm4883> ok
[02:59] <skinux> I would use cable to fix whatever needs fixed for wireless, but it won't get an IP with cable. I tested cable with this laptop and it worked fine. Ubuntu 16.04 just seems to hate me
[03:00] <cshelldiff> hey guys, im pretty new to linux and i am wondering what functionality distinguishes the C SHELL?
[03:01] <rose_> 123
[03:02] <rose_> shenmegui?
[03:02] <george5> Hello
[03:03] <george5> Hello
[03:04] <rose_> hello
[03:04] <george5> I'm just learning irssi
[03:04] <george5> Is this a good place to ask questions?
[03:05] <george5> Are there any irssi experts here?
[03:05] <george5> What is a good way to get a list of channels that I might be interested in?
[03:05] <Bashing-om> george5: The dedicated irssi channel #irssi .
[03:06] <george5> Thanks Bashing-om
[03:08] <RudyValencia> Hi, I'm trying to set up an Xubuntu VM in VMware Workstation and I'm not getting 1920x1080 after installing open-vm-tools. How do I configure X to recognize the 1920x1080 resolution?
[03:12] <skinux> Would RTL91390 be a recognized NIC?
[03:25] <skinux> I got it. The NIC was bad, I changed that and now I have internet using cable. So now I need to try to work out wirless USb issue and also install some software.
[03:29] <Monona> I installed android in virtualbox using this tutorial: http://www.laptopmag.com/articles/create-android-emulator but now android doesn't seem to load.
[03:31] <jericoag> Hi, all. I'm a total ubuntu newbie. Installed the latest ubuntu on my vostro v131 and not sure what to do next.
[03:31] <jericoag> for starters, can anyone point me to a good listing of basic commands?
[03:33] <pimpMyNick> how to kill x server? i want to add a new screen resolution but couldnt achieve as i m unable to kill x server. In earlier versions it was possible, but in 16.04, xserver is still running.
[03:33] <pimpMyNick> plz help if u can
[03:35] <Bashing-om> !manual | jericoag
[03:35] <Bashing-om> !termimal ! jericoag
[03:36] <Bashing-om> !terminal ! jericoag
[03:38] <jericoag> thanks ubotto
[03:38] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/ubuntu-help/index.html good start https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[03:39] <RudyValencia> Hi, I'm trying to set up an Xubuntu VM in VMware Workstation and I'm not getting 1920x1080 after installing open-vm-tools. How do I configure X to recognize the 1920x1080 resolution?
[03:45] <JKB_> Hi All... could u help me with a problem I'm facing after Ubuntu 16.04 installation process?
[03:45] <pimpMyNick> does ubuntu 16.04 use x server
[03:46] <pimpMyNick> JKB_, if i could...definitely
[03:46] <JKB_> Thank you... well I have accept the update suggested by the system
[03:46] <JKB_> but
[03:47] <JKB_> I'm not sure if the process got ended and suddenly I'm in "Black Screen"  with a prompt blinking
[03:49] <skinux> tgm4883: Still in here?
[03:49] <pimpMyNick> never had this kind of problem buddy, so cant tell anything.
[03:49] <Monona> I'm trying to run android in virtualbox, and I get this error then a black screen:   no support for this cpu vendor
[03:50] <gr1dl0ck> Monona: try #vbox
[03:51] <Monona> gr1dl0ck: Thx
[03:53] <tgm4883> skinux: on my phone
[04:06] <sangi_> hello
[04:06] <sangi_> is anyone there
[04:06] <sangi_> ?
[04:06] <sangi_> ?
[04:06] <sangi_> ?
[04:11] <darkerego_> hello
[04:12] <cfhowlett> your ubuntu question is ... ?
[04:20] <gowthersgreed> hello
[04:20] <cfhowlett> your ubuntu question is ... ?
[04:20] <gowthersgreed> Im wondering is i3 beteer than bpsmw
[04:20] <gowthersgreed> better
[04:20] <cfhowlett> i3?  bpsmw?
[04:20] <gowthersgreed> window managers
[04:20] <cfhowlett> ah!
[04:21] <gowthersgreed> yes
[04:21] <cfhowlett> best practice is to use the tool you prefer.  "best" is a subjective judgement.
[04:21] <gowthersgreed> ok thanks
[04:21] <cfhowlett> happy2help!
[04:22] <gowthersgreed> Also i was wondering If someone could tell me where to find different IRCs
[04:22] <cfhowlett> gowthersgreed, you mean ubuntu channels?
[04:22] <gowthersgreed> I mean how to discover more
[04:22] <cfhowlett> !alis | gowthersgreed
[04:23] <gowthersgreed> is #freenode a part of ubuntu servers
[04:24] <gowthersgreed> !alis
[04:24] <cfhowlett> gowthersgreed, no. freenode is separate from ubuntu
[04:24] <gowthersgreed> how do I access it?
[04:24] <cfhowlett> gowthersgreed, imagine I am interested in finding python channels.
[04:25] <gowthersgreed> yes
[04:25] <cfhowlett> and there they are
[04:26] <gowthersgreed> ok?
[04:26] <cfhowlett> can you see the list above?
[04:26] <gowthersgreed> what list
[04:27] <cfhowlett> gowthersgreed, OK, seems that alis returns a privatized output.  no worries.  do this: /msg alis list #python
[04:28] <gowthersgreed> I dont see anything
[04:28] <cfhowlett> if no feedback, you entered it incorrectly.
[04:29] <cfhowlett> on a new line: /msg alis list #python
[04:29] <gowthersgreed> sorry but its not working
[04:30] <gowthersgreed> "/msg alis list #python"
[04:30] <cfhowlett> paste a picture of your screen
[04:30] <gowthersgreed> how?
[04:30] <gowthersgreed> srry
[04:30] <cfhowlett> use the screenshot tool and paste it to imgur
[04:30] <cfhowlett> no apology needed.  happy2help!
[04:31] <PenguinMan98> I revoked root access to my ubuntu vps and created a user and now I'm not sure which username I picked. I can't get in.
[04:31] <PenguinMan98> Options?
[04:32] <cfhowlett> PenguinMan98, if this was a physical machine, you could boot an ubuntu USB, mount the mystery filesystem and list users.  never used a VPS so unsure how to do it.  ask #ubuntu-server
[04:33] <PenguinMan98> ok, thank you!
[04:33] <cfhowlett> happy2help!
[04:40] <rexwin_> how to find whether iptables is running or not
[04:41] <cfhowlett> !iptables
[04:55] <gowthersgreed> Why can I not see any text?
[04:56] <gowthersgreed> hello
[04:56] <gowthersgreed> !alis
[04:56] <gowthersgreed> !chfowlett
[04:57] <gunthersgreed> hello
[04:57] <gowthersgreed> where is the all the text
[04:57] <gunthersgreed> where is the text
[04:57] <gunthersgreed> WHy is this happening
[04:58] <YankDownUnder> gunthersgreed: What appears to be the issue?
[04:58] <gunthersgreed> I thought it would be really active
[04:58] <YankDownUnder> gunthersgreed: Quite possibly there are other things to do than break Ubuntu?
[04:58] <gunthersgreed> lol
[04:59] <gunthersgreed> do you know any active irc channels
[04:59] <gunthersgreed> ?
[04:59] <YankDownUnder> gunthersgreed: Hmmm...what about anything related to Windows10?
[04:59] <gunthersgreed> anything is fine really
[05:00] <gunthersgreed> hello
[05:00] <gunthersgreed> ?
[05:00] <YankDownUnder> gunthersgreed: There's always the ##linux channel...
[05:00] <gunthersgreed> ok thanks
[05:01] <gunthersgreed> I was wondering how do i get /whois to work
[05:01] <YankDownUnder> gunthersgreed: Have you read the IRC support stuff on Freenode yet? Or Googled for IRC commands and meanings?
[05:02] <gunthersgreed> yes Im just very confused
[05:03] <YankDownUnder> gunthersgreed: Right oh - so you're half-way there!
[05:03] <cfhowlett> choose one problem and focus on that
[05:03] <gunthersgreed> ok
[05:03] <gunthersgreed> sorry for being naive
[05:04] <YankDownUnder> gunthersgreed: We've all been there, hmm. All good.
[05:05] <gunthersgreed> im getting ##linux can not connect to channel
[05:05] <cfhowlett> !register | gunthersgreed
[05:05] <YankDownUnder> gunthersgreed: Are you registered? If not, you should...
[05:06] <gunthersgreed> Oh so some  channels require registered users?
[05:06] <YankDownUnder> gunthersgreed: Ja.
[05:06] <gunthersgreed> I see
[05:06] <gunthersgreed> I thought IRC channels would be really active
[05:07] <YankDownUnder> gunthersgreed: Depends on the day, the time, the location.
[05:07] <gunthersgreed> like what a twitch stream has
[05:07] <cfhowlett> gunthersgreed, there are THOUSANDS of irc channels.  they can't all be a party
[05:07] <gunthersgreed> why is your nick in red
[05:07] <YankDownUnder> OMG - they're not all a party? ;)
[05:07] <cfhowlett> because your IRC program thinks Im special
[05:07] <gunthersgreed> you are ;0
[05:08] <YankDownUnder> gunthersgreed: He gets ice cream and we don't.
[05:08] <gunthersgreed> yank even yours is red
[05:08] <YankDownUnder> gunthersgreed: OMG! That means I get ice cream! Wow!
[05:09] <gunthersgreed> maybe it is because you are registered
[05:09] <YankDownUnder> gunthersgreed: That's what they told me at the mental institution.
[05:09] <gunthersgreed> We got to beleive them right?
[05:09] <YankDownUnder> Yes. Veritably.
[05:10] <gowthersgreed> why are people just joining and disconnecting
[05:10] <cfhowlett> !manual | gunthersgreed basic reading suggestion
[05:10] <cfhowlett> gowthersgreed, focus.  what is YOUR issue?
[05:10] <gunthersgreed> I just want a seamless linux experience
[05:11] <cfhowlett> gunthersgreed, don't we all.
[05:11] <gowthersgreed> life goals
[05:11] <cfhowlett> gunthersgreed, but it will NOT be any more seemless than OSX or windows so ...
[05:11] <pimpMyNick> can anyone help me regarding xserver...I want xorg.conf file but get error no devices to configure
[05:12] <gowthersgreed> !manual
[05:15] <cfhowlett> gowthersgreed, pro-tip: privatize your messages to ubottu like this:  /msg ubottu !manual
[05:23] <admin-mate> oi
[05:23] <admin-mate> Algu├®m por a├Ł?
[05:24] <cfhowlett> !br | admin
[05:24] <CryptoSiD> I'm trying to install ubuntu desktop 16.04 and create a RAID 1 but I can'T find the option to create the raid1
[05:24] <CryptoSiD> am i blind?
[05:24] <cfhowlett> !raid | CryptoSiD
[05:25] <CryptoSiD> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID i was reading this, but i can't seems to find those options
[05:25] <CryptoSiD> the interface isnt the same
[05:25] <CryptoSiD> and its for ubuntu server not ubuntu desktop
[05:25] <CryptoSiD> thats why the interface isnt the same
[05:25] <cfhowlett> !server | CryptoSiD
[05:26] <CryptoSiD> as i said, ubuntu desktop not ubuntu server.
[05:26] <CryptoSiD> i want to install using ubuntu desktop dvd, and create a raid1
[05:26] <CryptoSiD> is that possible?
[05:26] <ryein> how should i install the AMDGPU-Pro driver?
[05:26] <ryein> a ppa exist yet?
[05:27] <cfhowlett> CryptoSiD, I don't do raids, but I believe you're trying a standard operation.  server or desktop, the underlying method is the same.
[05:28] <CryptoSiD> i cant see the option in desktop ubuntu installation, thats the issue
[05:28] <YankDownUnder> Would that not fall under the topic of partitioning?
[05:30] <CryptoSiD> in "use as" i dont see anything related to raid
[05:30] <CryptoSiD> what is wrong with ubuntu desktop installer
[05:30] <cfhowlett> CryptoSiD, I see the issue now.  the wiki specifies use of the alternate installer which is no longer in service.  you *could* use the server .iso and then add the ubuntu desktop packages
[05:31] <CryptoSiD> i dont have a usb key and no more blank DVD, i have to do this using ubuntu desktop 16.04 dvd
[05:31] <CryptoSiD> i just burned it.
[05:31] <OerHeks> step 3 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID#Configuring_the_RAID
[05:32] <CryptoSiD> OerHeks its for ubuntu server, not ubuntu desktop
[05:32] <CryptoSiD> the installation interface is different in ubuntu desktop
[05:33] <OerHeks> but you don't put /boot on softwareraid AFAIK, always the server on a seperate partition
[05:33] <CryptoSiD> all i see is a menu to create partition, with no option to create raid, and "install now" once i created my partitions
[05:33] <CryptoSiD> all i need is the method to create raid1 using ubuntu desktop installer
[05:33] <CryptoSiD> not ubuntu SERVER
[05:34] <cfhowlett> CryptoSiD, yes, we get it.  calm down.
[05:34] <doofamash> ryein i have no idea about a ppa for amdgpu-pro drivers but you can install it from a .tar file
[05:35] <CryptoSiD> everywhere im reading, they say to install using ubuntu server than apt install ubuntu-desktop
[05:35] <CryptoSiD> whats wrong?
[05:35] <cfhowlett> CryptoSiD, what's wrong is that the solution to your request is given, you just don't like it.
[05:35] <guzzlefry> Does anyone know how to force a monitor to wake up? It's asleep in X, but when I CTRL+ALT+1 I can at least get a terminal.
[05:36] <CryptoSiD> as i said, i dont have a usb key under hand right now, and no more blank DVD
[05:36] <CryptoSiD> so imust be able to create a raid 1 using the desktop installer
[05:36] <CryptoSiD> else im mad
[05:36] <cfhowlett> CryptoSiD, your choice is 1. be angry or 2. go get a usb.  (they are cheap, you know.(
[05:37] <doofamash> guzzlefty, restart your diaplaymanager service
[05:37] <guzzlefry> Can't he set up the RAID using the "Try Ubuntu" liveDVD?
[05:37] <CryptoSiD> its 2 am here, i doubt i can get usb key or blank DVD at this time
[05:37] <guzzlefry> CryptoSiD: U.S. or elsewhere?
[05:37] <cfhowlett> CryptoSiD, or you could use the command line --- ALSO from the wiki page.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID#Using_the_mdadm_CLI
[05:38] <OerHeks> maye this page is any help, howto use the live iso to make raid http://askubuntu.com/questions/505446/how-to-install-ubuntu-14-04-with-raid-1-using-desktop-installer
[05:38] <CryptoSiD> how come the options to create raid 1 isnt in the desktop installer?
[05:38] <CryptoSiD> wtf is wrong with the desktop cd/dvd
[05:38] <OerHeks> should work for 16.04 too
[05:38] <cfhowlett> guzzlefry, the desktop installer does not include raid, thus the repeated suggestion to use the server installer then add the desktop packages
[05:39] <cfhowlett> CryptoSiD, nothing is wrong.  you have been given no fewer than 2 methods.  choose 1.
[05:39] <CryptoSiD> i used to like ubuntu, but now i dont
[05:39] <CryptoSiD> its very stupid to not offer the option to create a raid1 in the desktop installation
[05:39] <cfhowlett> CryptoSiD, your machine, your choice.  by the way: method 3.  https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/advanced-installation.html
[05:40] <CryptoSiD> method 3 use ubuntu server
[05:40] <CryptoSiD> not ubuntu desktop
[05:40] <cfhowlett> CryptoSiD, it uses the command line.  works perfectly on the desktop.
[05:40] <OerHeks> wait, you don't have a desktop iso ??
[05:40] <guzzlefry> What about hardware raid?
[05:40] <OerHeks> :-D
[05:40] <CryptoSiD> i have a desktop iso.
[05:40] <CryptoSiD> which seems to be the problem
[05:41] <OerHeks> no, not in live mode, you can instal mdam
[05:41] <guzzlefry> cfhowlett: I see no service named that under `sudo service --status-all`
[05:41] <CryptoSiD> im in live mode
[05:41] <OerHeks> maye this page is any help, howto use the live iso to make raid http://askubuntu.com/questions/505446/how-to-install-ubuntu-14-04-with-raid-1-using-desktop-installer
[05:41] <CryptoSiD> but once i open the "install ubuntu 16.04" and try to create a raid1
[05:41] <CryptoSiD> i have no option for it
[05:42] <rajivmars> I have installed ubuntu 16.04. during boot, the ubuntu logo has not shown. why the ubuntu logo has shown during boot?
[05:42] <cfhowlett> guzzlefry, I'm on xubuntu desktop.  comes right up for me.  don't know what to tell yu.
[05:42] <CryptoSiD> so. centos is officialy better than ubuntu
[05:42] <CryptoSiD> sad but true
[05:42] <CryptoSiD> centos offer the option to create a raid 1
[05:42] <OerHeks> CryptoSiD, *read* --> live mode, not install mode
[05:42] <guzzlefry> cfhowlett: The issue is that the monitor is off in X :P
[05:43] <guzzlefry> Going to try unplugging it and plugging it back in, and then proceed to feel dumb if it works. :)
[05:43] <cfhowlett> guzzlefry, your issue is outside my area.  sorry.
[05:44] <guzzlefry> no problem, thanks for trying
[05:44] <CryptoSiD> i dont have internet on this comp so i cant use apt
[05:44] <CryptoSiD> the option to create a raid1 during the installation should be there
[05:44] <OerHeks> oh i ignore this troll
[05:45] <CryptoSiD> its totaly stupid that its not there, using the ubuntu desktop cd
[05:45] <CryptoSiD> im not trolling.
[05:45] <cfhowlett> CryptoSiD, you are.  stop or leave.
[05:45] <CryptoSiD> no im not trolling im just complaning about the stupid fact that we cant create a raid 1 using the destop cd/dvd
[05:45] <CryptoSiD> it should be there
[05:46] <cfhowlett> CryptoSiD, it's not.  move on to solutions.  now.
[05:46] <CryptoSiD> its not but it should be there, should be aded asap
[05:46] <CryptoSiD> priority.
[05:46] <cfhowlett> and this is the solutions channel.  NOT the complaing channel.
[05:46] <guzzlefry> for the 1% of desktop users who actually use RAID?...
[05:46] <CryptoSiD> where is the complaining channel then
[05:46] <cfhowlett> CryptoSiD, #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:47] <CryptoSiD> who care about the %, having the option is a must
[05:47] <CryptoSiD> its far from beeing offtopic
[05:47] <cfhowlett> CryptoSiD, wrong channel.
[05:47] <CryptoSiD> wrong channel to complain about ubuntu lack of option in the desktop cd/dvd?
[05:47] <CryptoSiD> cmon
[05:47] <CryptoSiD> its the right channel
[05:47] <doofamash> guzzlefry, might this page be of help? http://www.shallowsky.com/linux/x-screen-blanking.html
[05:48] <cfhowlett> trolling is not welcome here.  you asked "how".  we told you.  You don't like the options.  fine.  use something else.  but take your complaints elsewhere. this is not the place.
[05:48] <CryptoSiD> I will sure contact ubuntu to complain about that
[05:48] <CryptoSiD> im not trolling
[05:48] <cfhowlett> please do.
[05:48] <guzzlefry> Patches are welcome. :P
[05:49] <cfhowlett> !but | CryptoSiD
[05:49] <cfhowlett> !bug
[05:49] <YankDownUnder> Amazingly, this - and most other Ubuntu (or other) support channels are manned by VOLUNTEERS that are merely users themselves...complaints are, well, literally a waste of energy and time - for all involved.
[05:52] <swift110-phone> hey
[05:53] <cfhowlett> swift110-phone, your ubuntu questions??
[05:53] <swift110-phone> have y
[05:53] <swift110-phone> have you had any problems with 16.04
[05:54] <cfhowlett> swift110-phone, please do not ask "has anyone ..." questions.  state YOUR issues and YOUR details
[05:54] <CryptoSiD> cfhowlett its not a bug its a missing option that should be there.
[05:54] <CryptoSiD> whatever ill find a way to report it
[05:54] <CryptoSiD> since its super stupid that this option isnt there
[05:55] <cfhowlett> enough
[05:55] <CryptoSiD> if its enough then dont bring it back
[05:55] <cfhowlett> CryptoSiD, actually, I can do you one better ... welcome to /ignored
[05:56] <CryptoSiD> great
[05:58] <stevwills> going to install arch  linux tonight
[05:59] <stevwills> any advice
[05:59] <cfhowlett> stevwills, nothing to do with ubuntu.  please proceed to arch for support
[05:59] <OerHeks> wrong channel stevwills
[05:59] <stevwills> ubuntu is good and stable
[05:59] <CryptoSiD> this guy must be a troll!
[05:59] <CryptoSiD> :D
[05:59] <stevwills> nope
[05:59] <OerHeks> advise: read first, before you start.
[05:59] <stevwills> i like ubuntu
[06:00] <cfhowlett> stevwills, ask your UBUNTU suppport questions here
[06:00] <stevwills> haha good advice OerHeks
[06:00] <CryptoSiD> i used to like ubuntu, till i got dissapointed by the desktop installer
[06:00] <CryptoSiD> :)
[06:00] <stevwills> whats wrong with the installer
[06:01] <OerHeks> he has no internet, stevwills. sad.
[06:01] <CryptoSiD> the desktop installer don't offer the option to create raid1
[06:01] <CryptoSiD> thats the huge issue
[06:01] <stevwills> DerHeks i have all the internet i nedd
[06:01] <stevwills> need
[06:02] <CryptoSiD> internetzzzzzzzz
[06:02] <stevwills> what you cant create raids in ubuntu, thats a wierd one
[06:02] <YankDownUnder> CryptoSiD: The team that "thought up" the installation process would have considered that - and obviously the decision to include it was outweighed.
[06:03] <CryptoSiD> well they havent asked me about that:P
[06:03] <CryptoSiD> i mean, between having the option or not, its better to have it
[06:03] <YankDownUnder> CryptoSiD: Because your ego is not as huge as theirs.
[06:03] <stevwills> not allowing raid was a huge fuck entreprises
[06:03] <YankDownUnder> CryptoSiD: I'm sure a nice email to the Dev team explaining your situation would bring some type of recompense.
[06:04] <CryptoSiD> i want 1 million dollar
[06:04] <stevwills> well is there any other linux distro that dosn't allow raids?
[06:04] <YankDownUnder> Option: install the server version, create the RAID1, install desktop afterwards. Easy done.
[06:05] <stevwills> maybe he wants a raid 12 XD
[06:05] <OerHeks> YankDownUnder, it can be done from live mode.. but mister does not have internet.
[06:05] <YankDownUnder> OerHeks: Yersh...this I read earlier.
[06:05] <CryptoSiD> it should be possible to do it with the desktop cd
[06:05] <OerHeks> nor usb or empty media
[06:05] <CryptoSiD> its my humnle opinion
[06:05] <CryptoSiD> i found a blank DVD in fact, i will install it using the ubuntu server dvd
[06:05] <stevwills> what is the best linux Distro?
[06:06] <YankDownUnder> I've just checked my cup - it's nearly empty. That being my "cup of care".
[06:06] <OerHeks> wrong channel for polling stevwills
[06:06] <stevwills> im not polling i'm starting a  conversation XD
[06:06] <stevwills> aren't irc channels here for that ?
[06:07] <OerHeks> not this channel, ubuntu support only.
[06:07] <OerHeks> !ot
[06:07] <guzzlefry> So before I just nuke my X session, does anyone know how to unblank a monitor in X, without actually having access to the terminal X is running in?
[06:07] <stevwills> startx
[06:08] <OerHeks> guzzlefry, no, you have to run back to work
[06:08] <stevwills> best ubuntu youtube video ever!!!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Qj8p-PEwbI
[06:09] <stevwills> whois stevwills
[06:09] <cfhowlett> stevwills, this is the support channel.  take chitchat to #ubuntu-offtopi
[06:09] <stevwills> !whois
[06:09] <cfhowlett> stevwills, this is the support channel.  take chitchat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:11] <stevwills> what is the connect command again to connectr to #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:11] <cfhowlett> stevwills,        should be /join #channel_name_here
[06:11] <stevwills> thx
[06:12] <cfhowlett> happy2help!
[06:14] <guzzlefry> Is turning everything off in the XFCE Power Manager enough to ensure that the monitor never turns itself off again?
[06:16] <cfhowlett> guzzlefry, might need to ask #xfce or #xubuntu
[06:17] <guzzlefry> roger that
[06:26] <Zipf> Had to click on Pancakes to get here, now I'm hungry. How's everyone doing tonight?
[06:27] <cfhowlett> Zipf, your ubuntu support question is ... ?
[06:28] <Zipf> Had a question about Nvidia drivers. Moving from windows 10 to ubuntu.
[06:43] <rajivmars> how to remove the "amazon app" from ubuntu 16.04?
[06:46] <jatt> amazon app?
[06:47] <Rust3dCor3> How to report a bug that is not aplication related? apport says that it cant sent request because its not an app from repos. I was using debian 8 and switched to 16.04. the game is adom. On debian 8 it was all ok but on ubuntu is consuming most of the cpu
[06:47] <rajivmars> jatt: yes. the Amazon app, which comes bydefault with ubuntu.
[06:48] <jatt> there is no amazon app in ubuntu
[06:48] <Rust3dCor3> software-center?
[06:48] <jatt> what?
[06:49] <Rust3dCor3> neither i have knowlage what about rajivmars is talkinga about
[06:49] <jatt> amazon has apps for android but not for ubuntu
[06:50] <quest9> hi
[06:50] <rajivmars> Rust3dCor3: open Dash, then search for "amazon". then you understand.
[06:51] <Rust3dCor3> dash: 1: amazon: not found
[06:52] <Rust3dCor3> rajivmars: I use xfce
[06:52] <rajivmars>  Rust3dCor3: are you using ubuntu 16.04?
[06:53] <Rust3dCor3> rajivmars: yes. i remember on 14.04 that there was an option to remove such stuff as advertisments. mmaybe ability to disable that amazon app is in the similar menu
[06:53] <Rust3dCor3> rajivmars: but where you should look i dont know
[06:54] <Rust3dCor3> rajivamars: http://www.howtogeek.com/126995/how-to-disable-the-amazon-search-ads-in-ubuntus-unity-dash/
[06:55] <rajivmars> Rust3dCor3: I have disable it already. now i want to remove it from the computer. do you have any idea how to do it?
[06:56] <Rust3dCor3> rajivmars: probably the only thing that unity-lens-shopping is doing is to download ad data on your pc and show you ads. by uninstalling it it should be ok
[06:57] <rajivmars> How do i uninstall it?
[06:57] <Rust3dCor3> in terminal "sudo apt-get remove unity-lens-shopping" whitout quotes
[06:58] <Rust3dCor3> or in software center search and remove unity-lens-shopping
[06:58] <Rust3dCor3> and right click on the amazon launcher app and click unlock from launcher
[06:58] <rajivmars> Rust3dCor3: Ok.Thank you:)
[06:58] <Rust3dCor3> then restart system
[07:00] <rajivmars> Rust3dCor3: fine.
[07:05] <anarhist_> hi, hp printer/scanner no longer works after i have upgraded to 16.04 when trying to rerun hp-setup i get: ""error: hp-setup requires GUI support (try running with --qt3). Also, try using interactive (-i) mode.
[07:40] <bobby-barker> sup
[07:40] <bobby-barker> my negros
[07:45] <pennTeller> hi guys can anybody recommend a tool to format a hard drive in ubuntu 16.04?
[07:47] <epstin3> disk utility?
[07:50] <epstin3> ubuntu mate 16.04 best icon themes?
[08:07] <swift110-phone> lol
[08:09] <pimpMyNick> when i write some command in gnomerc file, it breaks session. Any ideas?
[08:09] <pimpMyNick> m i writing wrong syntax?
[08:09] <pimpMyNick> or some other cause
[08:14] <Ujjwal> hey
[08:15] <zena> hi
[08:16] <Ujjwal> how to run two commands in a sequence
[08:16] <zena> add &&
[08:17] <Seveas> or ; if the exit status of the first doesn't matter
[08:18] <zena> like sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade
[08:18] <Ujjwal> And what does just & do?
[08:19] <Seveas> launch the first command in the background
[08:19] <Seveas> so they'll both run at the same time
[08:20] <zena> just one "&" doesn't work
[08:20] <Ujjwal> but i want them to run one after another
[08:20] <Ujjwal> ok
[08:20] <Seveas> zena: it does work, but does something different :)
[08:21] <Seveas> try: sleep 5 & ls
[08:22] <zena> oh, ok, must be latest command. i'm not sure, never try
[08:23] <Ujjwal> allright lemme try && thanks
[08:50] <happyBoy> I just made an upgrade from ubuntu 14.10 to ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS
[08:50] <happyBoy> was my choice ok
[08:51] <cfhowlett> happyBoy, how would we know the answer to that?  why would you expect us to know?
[08:52] <happyBoy> cfhowlett: what I meant was ubuntu 16.04 better than 14.10
[08:52] <cfhowlett> yes
[08:52] <mhg> hi i can't mount my hard disk. why? An error occurred while accessing 'segate', the system responded: The requested operation has failed: Error mounting /dev/sdc1 at /media/mhg/segate: Command-line `mount -t "ntfs" -o "uhelper=udisks2,nodev,nosuid,uid=1000,gid=1000" "/dev/sdc1" "/media/mhg/segate"' exited with non-zero exit status 13: $MFTMirr does not match $MFT
[08:52] <ikonia> 14.10 is end of life
[08:52] <ikonia> so totally dead and not supported
[08:52] <happyBoy> ok
[08:53] <happyBoy> can you explain what happens when an old ubuntu is no longer supported
[08:53] <ikonia> happyBoy: nothing
[08:53] <ikonia> you don't get support, it doesn't get updates
[08:53] <ikonia> thats it
[08:53] <happyBoy> ok
[08:53] <cfhowlett> happyBoy, "it's dead, Jim"
[08:54] <happyBoy> but if you are using that old version as a server then certainly not upgrading is suicide then
[08:54] <ikonia> no
[08:54] <ikonia> not at all
[08:54] <ikonia> it's exactly what I said "you don't get support, it doesn't get updates"
[08:54] <ikonia> it's up to you to work it out
[08:54] <cfhowlett> happyBoy, LTS is standard on many servers.
[08:55] <happyBoy> cfhowlett: then if you have no support and no upgrades then your ubuntu server may not be at all that safe if security issues are concerned since no more updates are given
[08:56] <cfhowlett> !lts | happyBoy,
[09:05] <mhg> any idea? please help me.
[09:05] <cfhowlett> !ask | mhg,
[09:05] <guzzlefry> mhg: Possibly a typo? You have segate instead of seagate.
[09:06] <OerHeks> MFTMirr does not match ..
[09:06] <OerHeks> read the read of the error mhg ..
[09:06] <OerHeks> see the message: "NTFS is either inconsistent, or there is a hardware fault, or it's a SoftRAID/FakeRAID hardware. In the first case run chkdsk /f on Windows then reboot into Windows twice." Windows problems you fix with windows tools.  ??
[09:06] <Theory> I am needing a .iso burner for linux...what to use...
[09:06] <ikonia> braseo
[09:06] <Theory> i have lubuntu now..
[09:06] <andreozzi> hi
[09:07] <mhg> guzzlefry: i think the partition is segate and the hardware is seagate.
[09:07] <cfhowlett> Theory, brasero
[09:07] <andreas_> hi
[09:07] <andreas_> hi
[09:08] <cfhowlett> your ubuntu questions, andreas_ ?
[09:08] <Theory> ok
[09:08] <OerHeks> mhg, sudo ntfsfix /dev/sdc1 # this might work, but i would do it on windows
[09:08] <Guest13000> ok
[09:09] <mhg> OerHeks: Thanks. it works
[09:11] <adroit_machine> I am unable to install softwares, need help please
[09:14] <OerHeks> ask you real question and find out, adroit_machine
[09:14] <cfhowlett> !details | adroit_machine
[09:14] <adroit_machine> OerHeks: I'm unable to install softwares, due to broken packages, sudo apt-get -f install wouldn't resolve them
[09:15] <adroit_machine> here's the output on pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/21123348/
[09:17] <OerHeks> yes, that was from days ago, with that libsqlite3-0:i386 hickup ?
[09:17] <adroit_machine> yes, OerHeks
[09:19] <adroit_machine> K1L told me to install wine so I did, but it produced the broken dependencies
[09:19] <ikonia> did you install it from the ubuntu repos
[09:19] <ikonia> or the PPA
[09:19] <sevenup__> xD
[09:19] <adroit_machine> ikonia: I installed it from ubuntu repos
[09:20] <adroit_machine> ikonia: from synaptic
[09:20] <ikonia> adroit_machine: then it doesn't create broken dependencies
[09:20] <ikonia> the version in the ubuntu repos matches dependencies just fine
[09:20] <Viking667> I'm having some issues playing a DVD under 16.04 with VLC, yet smplayer and "Videos" application both work.
[09:20] <sevenup__> Broken dependencies is not because of you installing wine
[09:20] <adroit_machine> ikonia: but it did, I'm surprised myself
[09:20] <ikonia> adroit_machine: seems unlikley
[09:20] <ikonia> adroit_machine: what dependencies are failing and against what package
[09:21] <Viking667> Do I hop skip and leap on my way over to VLC's support (hah) or is there something I can do about it here? Some videos come up all green and blotchy.
[09:21] <adroit_machine> ikonia: here's the output of apt-get -f install: http://paste.ubuntu.com/21123348/
[09:21] <sevenup__> probably you already had them
[09:21] <adroit_machine> sevenup__: no if I already had them then synaptic wouldn't install wine
[09:22] <sevenup__> you're wrong, that's all
[09:22] <sevenup__> I mean ... your assumption
[09:22] <ikonia> so the problem is not wine then
[09:22] <ikonia>  libsqlite3-0:i386
[09:22] <ikonia> that is your problem
[09:22] <ikonia> adroit_machine: of course it would
[09:22] <OerHeks> Unpacking libsqlite3-0:i386 (3.8.2-1ubuntu2.1) over (3.8.2-1ubuntu2)  .. the docs seem to bite yes
[09:22] <ikonia> adroit_machine: if wine didn't need those depednecnies
[09:22] <OerHeks> and there was a solution given, adroit_machine ?
[09:22] <adroit_machine> no there was no solution given, OerHeks
[09:23] <adroit_machine> I tried everything I can to  resolve it, ikonia
[09:23]  * OerHeks recalls some change command for that doc..
[09:23] <ikonia> adroit_machine: what have you tried
[09:24] <adroit_machine> i have filtered the broken packages in synaptic and then I have  tried apt-get -f install, and also I have tried to puge the sqllite package, ikonia
[09:24] <sevenup__> that's the consequence of your modified sources, some packaged installed previously from another way different than official repos
[09:24] <ikonia> yes, it would appear so
[09:24] <ikonia> adroit_machine: have you used PPA's in the past ?
[09:24] <adroit_machine> no I did not use PPA, ikonia
[09:25] <ikonia> adroit_machine: ok - so if you do "dpkg -l | grep libsqlite3" can you put the output of that in a pastebin please
[09:25] <adroit_machine> ok, ikonia
[09:25] <ikonia> it could be as simple as the 64bit version
[09:26] <ikonia> not sure what's using the 32bit version though
[09:26] <adroit_machine> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/21618092/
[09:27] <ikonia> could very well be a multilib fail then
[09:27] <ikonia> multilib - another failure
[09:27] <ikonia> try removing the 32bit version of sqlite
[09:27] <ikonia> (the package)
[09:27] <ikonia> see what's using it
[09:28] <ikonia> (it will complain if other things are using it)
[09:28] <adroit_machine> ikonia: it removes several dependent packages too
[09:28] <ikonia> are you using any of them ?
[09:29] <adroit_machine> yes, wine needs sqllite packages and several dependencies, ikonia
[09:29] <ikonia> so I'd log a bug against libsqlite3-0 saying the multi-lib 32bit version conflicts with the 64bit version in the file manifest
[09:30] <ikonia> as a very dirty hack you could try to move /usr/share/doc/libsqlite3-0/changelog.Debian.gz out of the way
[09:30] <ikonia> and see if it will then overrite it
[09:30] <ikonia> but this is very messy and not a good solution
[09:30] <ikonia> but no-one will fix that file conflict quickly
[09:30] <tn> hey guys
[09:30] <adroit_machine> I would not do that then if it breaks my system, ikonia
[09:31] <ikonia> adroit_machine: it doesn't break your system
[09:31] <ikonia> it moves a file that is a compressed change log out of the way
[09:31] <tn> what do i put into my ~/.xinitrc file to automatically run the Unity Desktop when executing startx?
[09:31] <timblechmann> hi all: i'm trying to figure out what's the reason for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/git/+bug/1574213: gitk/git gui don't launch correctly.
[09:32] <adroit_machine> how do I move us/sharedoc./libsqlite3-0changelogDebiangz out of the way
[09:32] <timblechmann> they start up nicely after reinstalling tk8.6, though
[09:32] <timblechmann> but i cannot really re-install tk8.6 after every reboot
[09:32] <adroit_machine> ikonia^
[09:32] <timblechmann> any idea?
[09:32] <ikonia> adroit_machine: /usr/share/doc/libsqlite3-0/changelog.Debian.gz
[09:32] <ikonia> that is the file
[09:33] <ikonia> be very clear with that - /usr/share/doc/libsqlite3-0/changelog.Debian.gz is the file
[09:33] <adroit_machine> where I move that file, ikonia
[09:33] <ikonia> anywhere you want
[09:33] <ikonia> just out of the way
[09:34] <adroit_machine> ikonia: I don't know the commad line way. Should I open a sudo dolphin and do that
[09:35] <ikonia> move it however you are comfortble
[09:36] <adroit_machine> ok, ikonia
[09:36] <Geom> hi... trying
[09:37] <Geom> hi. trying ubuntu server for the first time... what version do you recommend for a P4 machine?
[09:38] <ikonia> depends what you are expecting to do
[09:38] <ikonia> the latest stable LTS is always the sane option
[09:38] <Geom> jusr ssh and smb
[09:38] <ikonia> latest LTS
[09:38] <Geom> latest would run even on P4┬┐
[09:38] <ikonia> depends on the requirements
[09:38] <ikonia> there is more than cpu
[09:39] <ikonia> but I should imagine you'll be fine,
[09:39] <Geom> just 1gb ram... just for testing though
[09:39] <ikonia> should be fine
[09:39] <Geom> Great. Thanks!
[09:40] <adroit_machine> ikonia: I moved the sqlite3-0changelog Debian.gz, what do I do now
[09:40] <ikonia> re-run your install command that was broken
[09:40] <ikonia> see if it can write to where that change log file was
[09:40] <adroit_machine> ikonia: sudo apt-get -f install, right?
[09:41] <ikonia> yes
[09:42] <adroit_machine> ikonia: I did sudo apt-get -f install but it is still not resolving the dependencies
[09:42] <ikonia> pastebin the output
[09:42] <ikonia> and please stop saying it's not resolving dependencies - it is resolving dependencies just fine
[09:43] <adroit_machine> ikonia: sorry I dont know the other word for it
[09:43] <adroit_machine> ikonia: heres the output of sudo apt-get -f install: http://paste.ubuntu.com/21619108/
[09:44] <ikonia> adroit_machine: o - so apply logic
[09:44] <ikonia> adroit_machine: look at the old problem - it was conflicting about a file, you moved that file out of the way, it's moved forward and complaining about another file
[09:44] <ikonia> what do you think the next step is
[09:44] <adroit_machine> remove the other files too, right  ikonia?
[09:44] <adroit_machine> sorry move*
[09:45] <ikonia> adroit_machine: yes,
[09:45] <ikonia> it's just  text file with a copyright notice in, so it won't do harm
[09:45] <ikonia> and again log another bug against this package,
[09:45] <ikonia> that it the 32bit conflicts with the 64bit file manifest
[09:47] <adroit_machine> ikonia: sorry, but which file do I move now, I can't seem to   understand the log
[09:47] <ikonia> adroit_machine:  trying to overwrite shared '/usr/share/doc/liblcms2-2/copyright', which is different from other instances of package liblcms2-2:i386
[09:47] <adroit_machine> ah ok, liblcms2-2, ikonia
[09:48] <ikonia> no
[09:48] <ikonia> /usr/share/doc/liblcms2-2/copyright
[09:48] <ikonia> the copyright file
[09:48] <adroit_machine> ok, ikonia
[09:49] <riz0n> Hello friends. I have a 14.04 that I just upgraded to 16.04 with the do upgrade command. It says it completed with errors, however when I try to reboot the system now, it says that reboot command was not found. How can I get this system to restart?
[09:52] <adroit_machine> ikonia: thanks a lot, sudo apt-get -f install is working fine now
[09:52] <Patrick_> I would like to install Ubuntu 16.04 on my Windows machine
[09:53] <icomsium> spyhackerz
[09:53] <Patrick_> Can anyone please help me with how to make a bootable installation drive using a partition of my harddrive (my usb stick is not being recognized)
[09:53] <icomsium> t├╝rk olan varm─▒
[09:54] <k_> ?
[09:54] <k_> hello?
[09:54] <riz0n> hi
[09:55] <k_> What's is?
[09:55] <k_> What's this?
[09:55] <riz0n> This is called IRC
[09:56] <k_> Ķ┐ÖµĀĘÕæĆ
[09:56] <riz0n> Sorry I only speak english
[09:56] <k_> õĮĀÕō¬ÕÖČńÜä’╝¤
[09:56] <k_> O
[09:57] <k_> Amerial?
[09:57] <riz0n> Yes
[09:58] <riz0n> I guess.
[09:59] <k_> Do u offen play that?
[10:01] <riz0n> Play what, k_?
[10:02] <k_> IRC
[10:02] <riz0n> I used to live on IRC, but not much any more.
[10:02] <k_> Which system do you use?
[10:03] <riz0n> Well, obviously I use freenod3e
[10:03] <riz0n> Oops, I mean freenode
[10:03] <bazhang> !ot | riz0n k_
[10:03] <riz0n> Yeah I am just here for support. I think k_ is lost.
[10:04] <mac__> Virtualbox 5.0.10 on ubuntu 14.04 , guest windows 7  with NAT  but the vbox network adapter not listed using ifconfig -a from ubuntu
[10:06] <k_> I used it on Ubuntu mate
[10:08] <k_> Just my english isn't fluent
[10:10] <riz0n> Mine either, k_
[10:13] <longcat_> hi bitch
[10:14] <cfhowlett> longcat_, wrong channel.
[10:35] <tarator> Does anybody of you guys use the Akonadi feature of using tags for files (in Dolphin)? After an upgrade (Kubuntu 15.10 -> 16.04) all my file-tags are lost. This raises the question: What is this feature for? For wasting time?
[10:37] <mac___> VirtualBox installed On Ubuntu 14.04 , i run the command  ifconfig -a  but does not list the vbox network adapter details ?
[10:39] <mac___> VirtualBox installed On Ubuntu 14.04 , i run the command  ifconfig -a  but it does not list the vbox network adapter details and the installed windows 7 guest has no ip address(NAT Config))
[10:39] <cfhowlett> mac___, osx host, ubuntu 16.04 guest: http://termbin.com/vlc7
[10:40] <mac___> VirtualBox installed On Ubuntu 14.04 , i run the command  ifconfig -a  but it does not list the vbox network adapter details and the installed windows 7 guest has no ip address(NAT Config))
[10:40] <mac___> VirtualBox installed On Ubuntu 14.04 , i run the command  ifconfig -a  but it does not list the vbox network adapter details and the installed windows 7 guest has no ip address(NAT Config))
[10:41] <cfhowlett> mac___, stop it
[10:41] <cfhowlett> your question was seen.  be patient
[10:41] <cfhowlett> !patience
[10:43] <bekks> mac___: Pastebin ifconfig -a from your guest pleaser, along with "VBoxManage showvminfo ..." from your host.
[10:44] <Enny> Hello
[10:44] <rincewind666> Hi
[10:44] <Enny> how are you
[10:44] <cfhowlett> Enny, your ubuntu questions, please?
[10:45] <Enny> does ubuntu mean love for one another?
[10:45] <cfhowlett> Enny, ?  easily answered via google or a dictionary.  do you have ubuntu OS questions?
[10:45] <Enny> can i not come here?
[10:45] <cariveri> I heard it just means "for everyone"
[10:46] <Enny> wh you forcing me to question you
[10:46] <cfhowlett> Enny, please read and heed the topic
[10:46] <Enny> You didnt even introduce me to the channel yet
[10:46] <ducasse> !ot | Enny
[10:46] <cfhowlett> Enny, this is not a social channel. chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:46] <Enny> And this is a free worls
[10:46] <Enny> World
[10:48] <happyBoy> cfhowlett: I just tried to run my local server by typing localhost on my browser it says file not found
[10:48] <happyBoy> I just upgraded my ubuntu into 16.04
[10:48] <happyBoy> anything that I have done something wrong
[10:49] <cfhowlett> happyBoy, sad to hear it.  sorry, but that issue is outside my (limited) knowledge base. ask the channel in general or #ubuntu-server
[10:49] <happyBoy> cfhowlett: ok thanks
[10:49] <adroit_machine_> usr/share/doc/liblcms2-2/copyright', which is different from other instances of package liblcms2-2:i386
[10:49] <adroit_machine_> Errors were encountered while processing:
[10:49] <adroit_machine_>  /var/cache/apt/archives/liblcms2-2_2.6-3ubuntu1~trusty1_i386.deb
[10:53] <k1l> adroit_machine_: tell the ppa you use, that their packages are rubbish and that they need to fix thos depencies
[11:02] <mac___> bekks: http://pastebin.com/0WCPmhfT  ---   http://pastebin.com/rxfepEUv
[11:03] <tykayn> hey folks
[11:03] <SchrodingersScat> oh howdy
[11:03] <bekks> mac___: Both outputs arent what I requested. Or why do you have a wlan interface in your guest?
[11:05] <adroit_machine__> k1l: the problem is resolved now, i wasn't using any ppa's, i told ikonia
[11:05] <mac___> bekks: my main os is ubuntu 14.04 with virtualbox installed  the guest os is centos 7 netinstall
[11:06] <tykayn> is it possible to have a recent linux distribution running on a 700 mb cd ?
[11:06] <brenda> Hi, I am running a beta. I wonder, do I need to reinstall when the final rel. is available?
[11:06] <tykayn> all i find needs dvd
[11:06] <cfhowlett> tykayn, ubuntu core would fit
[11:06] <cfhowlett> !core
[11:06] <bekks> mac___: So pastebin VBoxManage showvminfo ... from the HOST and ifconfig -a from the GUEST.
[11:07] <tykayn> does ubuntu coreruns well on an old desktop for a unused user ?
[11:07] <mac___> bekks: i can not access the centos netinstall because it's require an IP address and INTERNET to complete the installation
[11:08] <cfhowlett> tykayn, old desktop?  lubuntu or xubuntu.  what the heck is an "unused user"?
[11:08] <bekks> mac___: So pastebin the information requested.
[11:09] <cfhowlett> tykayn, http://xubuntu.org/news/introducing-xubuntu-core/
[11:10] <tykayn> someone who knows only windows
[11:10] <tykayn> thanks
[11:13] <brenda> tykayn, yes it does, try Ubuntu first, if it is not light enough try Xbuntu, if that is not light enough go for Lubuntu.
[11:13] <mac___> bekks: http://pastebin.com/vE0nd5gM
[11:14] <tykayn> so i get an iso that fits on a CD, and after install i have to do stuffs for it to be able to work right ?
[11:14] <cfhowlett> tykayn, yep
[11:15] <Tin_man> tykayn, you say old computer, do you know the Ghz speed, memory installed ?
[11:16] <tykayn> yup http://www.cdiscount.com/informatique/ordinateurs-pc-portables/acer-aspire-7736zg-454g64mn/f-1070992-lxpja02310.html
[11:16] <cfhowlett> assume we don't read french ...
[11:17] <Tin_man> well don't read that language but looks like it would run ubuntu just fine..  i think
[11:17] <cfhowlett> tykayn, but yes, ubuntu would run on that machine ... slowly  xubuntu or lubuntu would run faster
[11:17] <bekks> mac___:  well, you configured the network interface for your vm to "intnet", not for "NAT".
[11:17] <tykayn> mkay
[11:18] <tykayn> yup no need to read french, you have the specs in numbers
[11:18] <mac___> bekss: itry internal after NAT
[11:18] <bekks> mac___: internal will never work.
[11:18] <mac___> bekks: ok
[11:18] <tykayn> ill try the lighter ubuntu
[11:19] <bekks> mac___: Internal is designed to NOT give you internet access. Hence the name.
[11:19] <Tin_man> tykayn, i noticed that it has Nvida graphics card, you might want to study up on the drivers for it..
[11:20] <mac___> bekss: any idea for NAT
[11:20] <tykayn> yup thanks :)
[11:20] <bekks> mac___: which ideas do you need for NAT?
[11:20] <Bluewolf> Hi all, I'm trying to share my desktop with my android device with "google chrome remote desktop", though I'm struggling to follow this site - https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/1649523?hl=en
[11:20] <Bluewolf> I'm using Ubuntu Gnome 16.04.
[11:20] <mac___> bekks: ineed NAT to oabtain and ip address and connect ot the internet to complete the installation
[11:20] <motaka2> hello, is ubuntu 14.04 lts to 16.04 lts available?
[11:21] <brenda> tykayn, get an Live version of Ubuntu and boot from it, then you will get an idea what is working (and what is not, in that case)
[11:21] <bekks> mac___: Shutdown the VM, and check the configuration of the NAT interface in the global settings of vbox.
[11:21] <cfhowlett> motaka2, yes.  sudo do-release-upgrade
[11:22] <brenda> tykayn, Nvidia will work out of the box (change the driver can be a future project)
[11:23] <Tin_man> didn't work out of the box with my computer
[11:23] <motaka2> cfhowlett: when I do sudo apt-get install php5-curl I get E: Unable to locate package php5-curl
[11:23] <motaka2>    , is that because I am using an 14.04 ubuntu version ?
[11:23] <cfhowlett> motaka2, could be
[11:23] <mac___> bekks:enable network adapter checked , attache to NAT , cable connect checked
[11:23] <brenda> tykayn, with that spec. you do not need a lighter buntu
[11:23] <motaka2> cfhowlett: Is there a quick way to fix this?
[11:24] <bekks> mac___: And which IP is configured for it?
[11:24] <Rick19999> Hello everyone.  last night I tried installing 16.04, when booting into the cd (or usb), I can get to the menu where I can Try ubuntu or install, when when selecting one, I just get a black screen with a blinking dash on the top left. I waited for ages and nothing. I tried both 16.04.1 and 16.04.  I tired the nomodeset param and it made no differen
[11:24] <Rick19999> ce.  So I tried ubuntu 15... same thing, 14 same thing, then I tried 12.04... and that worked! ... It booted into the live cd fine where I could install... Can someone explain this? why 16,15,14 won't boot into live cd but 12 will? (I have win10 on the same hd and I've disabled fast started alrady)
[11:24] <mac___> bekks: what ip!
[11:24] <bekks> !nomodeset | Rick19999
[11:24] <bekks> mac___: Did you take a look at the vbox manual yet?
[11:25] <Rick19999> I tried nomodeset bekks and ubottu and it yieled the same result... I was gutted too
[11:26] <Tin_man> brenda, I had to run sudo update, sudo upgrade, sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[11:26] <cfhowlett> motaka2, php5 does not seem to show in packages.ubuntu.com
[11:26] <motaka2> cfhowlett: so what should I do ?
[11:26] <Tin_man> that was on 16.04 full install.
[11:27] <cfhowlett> motaka2, are you on 14.04 or 16.04?
[11:27] <guzzlefry> Is there a recommended flash plugin? I see several open source ones, and then an installer for the official one.
[11:27] <motaka2> cfhowlett: I am on 14.04
[11:27] <cfhowlett> !flash | guzzlefry
[11:27] <brenda> Rick19999, It could be 1000 different things hardware related (your hardware and newer kernels)
[11:27] <bekks> motaka2: http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/php5-curl
[11:28] <motaka2> bekks: how can I add this, mine is x86
[11:28] <bekks> motaka2: Pastebin "sudo apt update" please.
[11:29] <Rick19999> I may try again, because I am curious as to what's going on.  Is there any way to get some debug information when I click on Install or Try ubuntu?
[11:30] <motaka2> bekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/21625421/
[11:30] <brenda> Rick19999, have tried an Ubuntu Server 16.04 install (does not need xorg to install)?
[11:31] <bekks> motaka2: Why dont you use security updates?
[11:31] <motaka2> bekks: I dont know, it happened to give me errors at start time for a wile
[11:32] <bekks> motaka2: Define "it".
[11:32] <motaka2> bekks: Is there a way to add the php curl package ? I am really in hurry
[11:32] <motaka2> bekks: I mean ubuntu 14.04
[11:32] <bekks> motaka2: Enable security updates, pastebin sudo apt update again, pastebin apt-cache policy php5-curl
[11:33] <Rick19999> Yeah that might be worth a shot.  Will probably investigate further, I installed 12 then upgraded to 14, now upgrading to 16... I prefer fresh installs everytime to be honest... Many thanks for all your help so far, love that we have such a responsive community
[11:33] <motaka2> bekks: how to enable them ?
[11:34] <brenda> Rick19999, if the Ubuntu Server 16.04 works you can just add your desktop (gui) of preference
[11:34] <brenda> Rick19999, good luck!
[11:35] <stefan__>  anybody here familiar with the opengm2 lib?
[11:41] <bekks> motaka2: Open up the software center, and enable them in the settings.
[11:45] <motaka2> as far as i can see everything has ticks
[11:46] <bekks> motaka2: Are security updates enabled?
[11:46] <motaka2> bekks: important security updates has ticks
[11:50] <brian> hi. please send me a registration code
[11:51] <brian> oops looks like the registration code bot is down, maybe?
[11:52] <brian> oh, that is very odd. a fresh install of linux mint sent me here instead of the linux mint help channel. sorry about that.
[11:53] <motaka2> can anyone help me instal php curl on ubuntu 14.04 ?
[11:54] <backbox> test
[12:00] <motaka2> bekks: ???
[12:08] <jinnks> Hi all, would i be able to get some help about network-manager-openvpn setup here?
[12:09] <J4nus> Hi I have an issue with Mate, Xorg is consuming 100% cpu
[12:10] <xervans> jinnks what problems are you having?
[12:11] <jinnks> The background to this issue is that i have upgraded from ubuntu 14.04 lts to 16.04 lts
[12:11] <jinnks> and since than my vpn has stopped working which is setup through the network manager
[12:11] <rhagu> hi, I tried to compile john-the-ripper on Xenial, but it wont find OpenCL support, althouh clinfo says my gpu is capable, what may I be missing? http://pastebin.com/h3advGjm
[12:12] <jinnks> I will paste the error message from the syslog in pastebin, with some config information
[12:12] <jinnks> may be that would shed some light
[12:13] <xervans> hey j4nus I found this for you on SO
[12:14] <xervans> no sorry this is askubuntu: http://askubuntu.com/questions/331499/xorg-compiz-is-using-massive-amounts-of-cpu-what-to-do
[12:14] <jinnks> http://paste.ubuntu.com/21628242/ error message here
[12:14] <ppf> i'd like to set up printing to pdf through cups
[12:14] <ppf> however, cups-pdf only emits  blank pages
[12:14] <ppf> any suggestsions how to debug that?
[12:15] <ppf> i've read the 4-year-old bug reports on that, they didn't help
[12:15] <xervans> i have a dumb question, did you install network-manager-openvpn ?
[12:16] <ppf> xervans: me?
[12:16] <Gourlay> I have a notice coming up on every start up: "System program problem detected. Do you want to report the problem now?" Can any one give me ha hand?
[12:16] <ppf> ah, no the other guy
[12:16] <xervans> no sorry ppf I'm talking to jinnks
[12:16] <jinnks> yes
[12:16] <ppf> Gourlay: click the details button
[12:16] <xervans> hey Gourlay, I've had that error myself happening on startup even since install. it hasn't caused any problems but its just been annoying
[12:17] <Gourlay> ppf, I have no button 'details'. what i do have are the alternatives 'cancel' and 'report problem...'.
[12:18] <ppf> sorry, yeah
[12:18] <jinnks> xervans the current packages installed are openvpn, network-manager-openvpn and network-manager-openvpn-gnome
[12:18] <Gourlay> ppf, i actually get two squares
[12:18] <Gourlay> ppf, the same notice
[12:18] <Gourlay> ppf, this happened after installing some repository
[12:18] <xervans> ok cool jinnks I've had a similar problem that I resolved, just trying to go through the steps I went through
[12:19] <jinnks> thanks
[12:19] <xervans> have you tried redownloading the certs?
[12:19] <Rick1999999> Hello again... so i posted about an hour ago about black screen with blinking dash top left. When i upgraded from 12.04 to 14 it was fine, but when i upgraded from 14 to 16, I'm getting that black screen with dash again :S I tried the nomodeset in grub...
[12:19] <jinnks> this is a connection to my work vpn
[12:20] <jinnks> so the certs have not changed.
[12:20] <jinnks> although i have recreated the connection quite a few times now :(
[12:21] <ppf> oh, is the lts update track finally out?
[12:23] <xervans> hey jinnks I looked into the needsecrets error and I found this workaround, take a look?
[12:23] <xervans> http://www.mail-archive.com/ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com/msg1469893.html
[12:25] <xervans> also jinnks did you try restarting networking and network-manager?
[12:26] <ppf> anyone ever used cups-pdf? is there an alternative?
[12:26] <jinnks> I have not made sure that all root shells are closed, but yes rebooted pc, restarted the network-manager a number of times
[12:26] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[12:41] <jinnks> xervans: sorry rebooted my pc again
[12:42] <xervans> that's difficult .. hm
[12:46] <jinnks> followed the instructions in the mail thread made sure there were no root shells running still getting the same issue
[12:48] <manhdv> quit
[12:48] <Derm2> Good morning, what is the best way to get some help with iptables rules?
[12:49] <ppf> Derm2: asking a specific question :)
[12:49] <Derm2> I wanted to check before I just threw it out. :)
[12:52] <Derm2> I have an server acting as a gateway for Default Route aka full tunnel.
[12:52] <Derm2> *filter
[12:52] <Derm2> :FORWARD DROP [0:0]
[12:52] <Derm2> -A FORWARD -i zt+ -s 10.6.4.0/22 -d 0.0.0.0/0 -j ACCEPT
[12:52] <Derm2> -A FORWARD -i eth0 -s 0.0.0.0/0 -d 10.6.4.0/0 -j ACCEPT
[12:52] <Derm2> should the second line be 10.6.4.0/22?
[12:56] <Derm2> ppf did I ask correctly?
[12:56] <mandla> Derm2, yes
[12:57] <Derm2> The articles was written for CentOS so I may need to change something else
[12:57] <Derm2> Just trying to route all traffic to my gw server then out
[13:00] <TheSuperGeek> Hello
[13:00] <TheSuperGeek> I'm using an intel HD 300
[13:00] <TheSuperGeek> *3000
[13:00] <TheSuperGeek> and i've got a problem with multi-screen (1 external screen in VGA)
[13:01] <TheSuperGeek> (and my laptop scren)
[13:01] <ktchk> anyone use remastersys?
[13:01] <TheSuperGeek> When I switch the mouse for the 1st screen to other
[13:01] <TheSuperGeek> i've got a black quare that appear and disapear
[13:01] <TheSuperGeek> if someone can help me please
[13:04] <Derm2> Is there a better channel for networking/iptables?
[13:05] <maret> hi everyone, my understanding is that 16.04 with unity still doesn't support touch screen out of box as for example windows does. I am talking about multitouch, automatic software keyboard and I guess also automatic screen orientation , correct? If so I heard that Ubuntu Gnome is better for touch (or best from all distros)
[13:05] <FManTropyx> perhaps ##networking maybe
[13:06] <apb1963> I need a flash substitute.  It constantly crashes...  I was considering gnash.  http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/i386/browser-plugin-gnash/download  Any warnings, caveats, reasons, etc. not to use it or a better solution?
[13:07] <Exec> Hey, where can I get libvga.so.1? One of my installed apps need it
[13:07] <herbeth> hi
[13:12] <ajalkane> This is driving my mad. I just upgraded to Ubuntu 16.04 after much jolly troubles - but nevermind them. What drives me crazy, is that I have an USB stick that I've created with Startup Disk Creator, and it's read-only. I can't copy any files into it. With 14.04 I had no such troubles, I just inserted the USB stick and I could write to it. Anyone  know how this could be fixed?
[13:15] <Exec> invex: was that your ns pw?
[13:17] <invex> ?
[13:19] <Industrial> Hi. I have a thing here.
[13:19] <Industrial> if I disable SUPER+L screen lock by `gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.lockdown disable-lock-screen true`
[13:20] <Industrial> then the screen goes black and I can not use the SUPER+L combination for something else
[13:20] <Industrial> I want to use HJKL keys like vim for navigating workspaces
[13:20] <Industrial> What do I do to fix this?
[13:24] <albech> does anyone know if there is a repository that has dspam in it? i know it is a rather old and unsupported spamfilter, but it is still the best there is
[13:26] <albech> i see the last ubuntu version that had it was 14.04 LTS
[13:32] <l33n>  i am trying to find out why reboot never finishes so have enabled a debug-shell, how do i use it
[13:36] <Hydr0p0nX> l33n - what happens when you reboot?
[13:37] <Hydr0p0nX> Also, seems other people have had a similar issue, http://askubuntu.com/questions/764568/ubuntu-16-04-hangs-on-shutdown-restart may give you some things to try
[13:37] <l33n> well i know its not a kernel problem
[13:37] <l33n> it halts the system
[13:38] <l33n> the system shutsdown most of the way and drops to a black screen
[13:38] <l33n> but does not reboot
[13:38] <l33n> using sync && reboot -f reboots the system
[13:39] <floogy> Hi, I want to upgrade trusty to xenial. How can I tell for sure my home is encrypted? I thought so, but I can not find a ecryptfs passphrase. There are even no ecryptfs-utils installed. Could it be encrypted in a different way. Sorry, but I'm not as involved in ubunt, like I used to be e.g. since hoary till precise
[13:40] <EriC^^> floogy: try df -h and see if it's mounted
[13:41] <floogy> besides /sys, /run and /dev there is only / listed. That tells: ecryptfs-recover-private
[13:41] <floogy> Sorry: ~$ mount|grep 'on / '
[13:41] <floogy> /dev/sda1 on / type ext4 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[13:42] <EriC^^> floogy: i'd say it's not encrypted
[13:42] <floogy> c & p error. ecryptfs-recover-private isn't installed.
[13:42] <EriC^^> usually it has a /home/user/.Private or so mounted on /home/user
[13:43] <EriC^^> floogy: you could try creating an encrypted user to compare
[13:43] <floogy> Thanks, that's what I think, too. ~/.Private doesn't exist. I got a second ubuntu install. Maybe that one is the encrypted one. I simply forgot about that stuff.
[13:44] <EriC^^> adduser --encrypt-home <user>
[13:44] <EriC^^> oh ok
[13:45] <jaerf> Hi everyone! language-pack-en-base and dependencies are installed in a fresh ubuntu distro (inside LXD), but the french accents don't work. When exec'ing into it, the "├®" for instance doesn't display. locale returns everything to posix even tho /etc/default/locale and /etc/environment are defining everything to "en_US.UTF-8". Seems like these settings are ignored, ideas?
[13:45] <floogy> I read, that one should decrypt first, before upgrade from trusty to xenial.
[13:45] <EriC^^> floogy: i dont think that's necessary
[13:45] <floogy> If there is nothing encrypted, so I'm fine.
[13:45] <EriC^^> the upgrade shouldn't touch anything in the user's home dir, could be wrong though
[13:47] <c0d3v3n0m> exit
[13:47] <floogy> Ah, ok. I think now I'm understanding. That was only regarding fstzab entries due to tghe change from upstart to systemd https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ecryptfs-utils/+bug/1447282
[13:47] <noob> hello
[13:47] <floogy> sorry, german: https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Upgrade_Trusty_auf_Xenial/
[13:49] <floogy> Thank you for your help EriC^^
[13:49] <EriC^^> floogy: no problem
[13:50] <jaerf> seems like "update-locale LANG=de_DE.UTF-8" is defining /etc/default/locale correctly, but after a reboot it remains the same
[13:50] <jaerf> (POSIX everywhere)
[13:51] <jelly> stupid question: why does xenial have wine 1.6 and wine-development 1.9.6, but no 1.8?
[13:55] <skinux> Need just a little help. VLC opens DVDs ,plays FBI Warning, plays little movie company intro, then movies stop.
[13:55] <jaerf> No one available for my locale issue?
[13:59] <zumba_addict> i'm planning to reinstall my linunx. My server is currently running fedora 3. I don't have a cd drive. What's the best way to install Ubuntu?
[13:59] <jaerf> zumba_addict: USB?
[13:59] <jaerf> Wow, fedora 3.
[13:59] <jaerf> Do you have a USB socket? lol
[13:59] <zumba_addict> yes, I have usb
[13:59] <zumba_addict> fedora 3, hahaha. I'm telling the truth
[14:00] <zumba_addict> it's extremely fast and I love how i setup xorg
[14:00] <zumba_addict> forgot which gui I use
[14:00] <ctjctj> zumba_addict, you can create a bootable USB if your hardware will boot from USB.  Or you will need to do a network boot.
[14:00] <zumba_addict> The machine is still good. It's I7 with 16gb of memory
[14:01] <zumba_addict> got it, maybe using dd
[14:01] <ctjctj> zumba_addict, there is a tool to create bootable USBs...
[14:01] <zumba_addict> oh cool
[14:01] <ctjctj> usb-creator-gtk
[14:01] <zumba_addict> is that an ubuntu tool?
[14:01] <ctjctj> I think that's it.
[14:02] <ctjctj> Hmmm,  yes.  But what language... Checking now.
[14:02] <zumba_addict> if so, it won't work for me
[14:02] <zumba_addict> i'm running fedora
[14:03] <zumba_addict> i'll use dd and find a bootable iso
[14:03] <ctjctj> It is written with python so if your fedora is compatible there is a chance.
[14:03] <zumba_addict> cool
[14:03] <zumba_addict> python should be easy to install
[14:03] <ctjctj> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_create_and_use_Live_USB
[14:03] <jaerf> zumba_addict: you can easily do it with dd if you know how to do it
[14:03] <zumba_addict> yup, i know dd
[14:04] <jaerf> zumba_addict: dd if=/path/to/iso.iso of=/dev/yourdevice BS=1M;
[14:04] <zumba_addict> just need a working iso
[14:04] <jaerf> Oh
[14:04] <zumba_addict> yup, that's it
[14:04] <sinapsi81> salve
[14:04] <zumba_addict> i mean, i need to find a ubuntu iso that's for usb
[14:04] <jaerf> zumba_addict: http://torrent.ubuntu.com/simple/xenial/server/
[14:04] <zumba_addict> cool
[14:04] <jaerf> I use that for my isos, work fine
[14:05] <zumba_addict> i'll get the i386 since this is an intel cpu
[14:05] <sinapsi81> just go on the webside and download it
[14:05] <zumba_addict> there are 2 files :)
[14:05] <ctjctj> zumba_addict, and if it won't boot off a thumb drive you could pick up an external USB dvd/cd drive.
[14:05] <ctjctj> isn't x86 for intel 64bit as well as AMD now?
[14:06] <zumba_addict> hmmm, reminds me i have an external cd that i use in thinkpad
[14:06] <jaerf> zumba_addict: I think you'd rather get the amd64
[14:06] <zumba_addict> but amd64 is for AMD
[14:06] <sunnydealmeida> Nope
[14:06] <zumba_addict> oh
[14:06] <sunnydealmeida> It will work for 64 bit cpus
[14:06] <zumba_addict> didn't know amd64 can work on intel cpu
[14:07] <zumba_addict> ah
[14:07] <zumba_addict> thanks for clearing that
[14:07] <jaerf> it's more like 32bits and 64bits
[14:07] <zumba_addict> i had it all wrong
[14:07] <jaerf> not really like this but mostly how you can understand it
[14:07] <zumba_addict> k
[14:07] <jaerf> Even if it's not supported, it won't burn your cpu but returns an error
[14:08] <zumba_addict> yup, it just won't boot
[14:08] <sunnydealmeida> it works
[14:08] <Islah> Hi everyone, I just installed the latest version of Lubuntu(16.04) and when trying to connect to the wifi, I cant. I'll go to the network manager and it says No Network devices avaliable. I cannot use ethernet to access the internet (as it's on a notebook with no ethernet port). Anyone know a fix for this?
[14:09] <jaerf> Islah: do you have wireless working when you're in the Lubuntu liveCD?
[14:09] <zumba_addict> i'm downloading amd6 now
[14:09] <jaerf> Islah: do you know the Wifi card reference?
[14:10] <zumba_addict> thnks jaerf, ctjctj and sunnydealmeida
[14:10] <Islah> one sec, lemme find it jaerf
[14:10] <jaerf> you're not supposed to install it manually but heh.. no network
[14:11] <Islah> it's a broadcom BCM43142
[14:12] <sunnydealmeida> i had similar issue with xubuntu 14.04
[14:12] <sunnydealmeida> I am sorry lubuntu 14
[14:13] <Islah> how did you go about fixing it sunnydealmeida ?
[14:13] <sunnydealmeida> try this thread
[14:13] <sunnydealmeida> http://askubuntu.com/questions/322861/how-to-connect-to-wireless-network-in-lubuntu
[14:16] <zumba_addict> should it be BS=1M or bs=1m? or dd knows it?
[14:16] <Islah> nope, doesn't work sunnydealmeida
[14:16] <Islah> :(
[14:17] <jaerf> zumba_addict: try 1M
[14:17] <zumba_addict> k
[14:17] <jaerf> It will return immediately if it fails
[14:17] <Islah> when trying to run nm-applet it says "Error retrieving accessibility bus address: org.freedesktop.dbus.Error.ServiceUnknown"
[14:17] <sunnydealmeida> so maybe you can check if drivers are installed
[14:17] <zumba_addict> 1M is invalid. I'm using 1m nw
[14:17] <zumba_addict> now
[14:17] <Mathisen> Islah, yo bad you dont got cable >> sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer
[14:18] <Mathisen> Islah, dont know what to do without internet doh
[14:18] <zumba_addict> i wish this bootable usb will also boot on my macbook
[14:18] <jaerf> Islah: you need the package "bcmwl-kernel-source"
[14:18] <jaerf> zumba_addict: it will
[14:18] <jaerf> zumba_addict: it also boots on every machine
[14:18] <zumba_addict> oh ok
[14:19] <jaerf> just press ALT on the mac boot sequence
[14:19] <sunnydealmeida> may be borrow or  buy a usb dongle
[14:19] <zumba_addict> if it does, now I need a non-install. I need an iso with gui running
[14:19] <jaerf> before OSX gets loaded (while the Apple displays) and it will show the disks
[14:19] <zumba_addict> got it
[14:19] <zumba_addict> i need another iso for my mac
[14:19] <jaerf> zumba_addict: you can use the server iso to install a desktop
[14:19] <jaerf> At the end it does the same thing: installing what you ask
[14:20] <zumba_addict> i don't want to install on my macbook but on the other machine, yes
[14:20] <Islah> alright i downloaded the .deb file onto a USB jaerf
[14:20] <jaerf> The thing is, the server is CLI, the desktop is.. desktop heh
[14:20] <zumba_addict> yup, i'm ok with both
[14:20] <jaerf> Islah: okay, do you have the file on your computer?
[14:20] <Islah> yeah
[14:21] <jaerf> Open a terminal, then sudo dpkg -i /path/to/the/file.deb
[14:21] <kunststoff> please take a look at https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Systemd-networkd#link_files and tell me if I have to rename [Match] and [Link] to something if Im creating a link file to change mac automatically
[14:21] <jaerf> Gotta go
[14:21] <jaerf> goodluck Islah :x
[14:21] <zumba_addict> i'll try this too on my mac - http://docs.kali.org/installation/kali-linux-network-mini-iso-install
[14:21] <jaerf> have fun zumba_addict and the others
[14:21] <zumba_addict> thanks bruh
[14:22] <Islah> got a dpkg: error processing package bcmwl-kernel-source (--install)
[14:22] <DWSR> Hey, what's the init daemon in 16.04.1?
[14:23] <Islah> rip me
[14:24] <sunnydealmeida> Islah I think you need internet.
[14:24] <lordcirth> DWSR, systemd 229
[14:24] <DWSR> lordcirth: Haven't been keeping up to date on UBuntu. We dumped upstart?
[14:25] <Islah> That's what im trying to get sunny :(
[14:25] <lordcirth> DWSR, in 15.04
[14:25] <Islah> tried to install it manually with the .deb file on my laptop
[14:25] <sunnydealmeida> the package will download the drivers for you
[14:25] <DWSR> lordcirth: Ah.
[14:25] <DWSR> lordcirth: https://github.com/Sonarr/Sonarr/wiki/Autostart-on-Linux <-- So, on this page, I should be using option 2?
[14:27] <zumba_addict> the ubuntu iso on usb booted on my mac osx :D but I don't have a choice to pick livecd
[14:27] <zumba_addict> the only choices are Install which i don't want
[14:28] <lordcirth> DWSR, neither of those are systemd
[14:28] <lordcirth> DWSR, #1 might work
[14:28] <DWSR> lordcirth: Am aware.
[14:28] <DWSR> lordcirth: It's written for upstart, though
[14:28] <lordcirth> Upstart stuff generally still works, iirc.  Haven't tried recently.
[14:29] <DWSR> lordcirth: I also found this systemd script: https://gist.github.com/alazare619/e9c3cd3ffbbf9c6fcf14
[14:29] <DWSR> I don't know enough about systemd to know what to do with it, but
[14:30] <DWSR> lordcirth: Also, systemd lists that it can use LSB scripts.
[14:30] <Deathrider> huhu
[14:30] <Deathrider> is this the supportchannel?
[14:31] <Deathrider> I have a problem with the installation
[14:32] <Kids> what about it?
[14:32] <Deathrider> translated: your installations-cd-rom cant mount. there is no cd-rom at the disk
[14:32] <Deathrider> but i try to install from a usb
[14:33] <Deathrider> how can i mount the usb as cdrom
[14:33] <zumba_a__> what does amd in the filename mean?
[14:33] <sunnydealmeida> it is 64 bit
[14:33] <lordcirth> zumba_a__, 'amd64'?
[14:33] <Deathrider> i install this on a server, and the server have no cdrom
[14:33] <zumba_a__> yeah
[14:34] <zumba_a__> i thought it was the company AMD
[14:34] <zumba_a__> but found out it's 64 bit
[14:34] <lordcirth> zumba_a__, AMD created x86_64 architercture
[14:34] <lordcirth> so it's both
[14:34] <brushdemon> reeeeeeeee
[14:37] <sunnydealmeida> Deathrider: is the port usb3
[14:37] <sunnydealmeida> ?
[14:37] <Deathrider> i dont know
[14:37] <Deathrider> i think not
[14:37] <Deathrider> the usb is
[14:37] <sunnydealmeida> in most cases it is blue
[14:37] <Deathrider> can i upload pictures? via imgur?
[14:38] <Deathrider> or is this not good?
[14:38] <Deathrider> the usbport has no color
[14:39] <sunnydealmeida> check the bios or system manual
[14:40] <Kids> i'm sorry, but what's usbport?
[14:40] <Deathrider> usbport = female part of usb
[14:40] <Kids> i ' m sorry, but what's usbport?
[14:40] <Deathrider> what schould i check in the bios?
[14:40] <Kids> okay
[14:40] <Kids> thanks
[14:41] <sunnydealmeida> if it is usb3
[14:41] <Deathrider> srry native German, my english is not best
[14:43] <marxS> hi
[14:44] <sburwood321> Need help with a friend who, unfortunately has Windows 8.1 on a laptop. He can t remember his password to save his life
[14:44] <Kids> oh man
[14:44] <liamphmurphy> That's a nasty situation.
[14:45] <sburwood321> I agree
[14:45] <Deathrider> i am in the bios
[14:45] <Deathrider> where can i see this?
[14:45] <Deathrider> system optiona
[14:45] <Deathrider> pci Devices
[14:45] <Deathrider> ipl
[14:45] <Kids> is disc password?
[14:46] <Deathrider> boot controll order
[14:46] <Deathrider> date and time
[14:46] <liamphmurphy> You'll have to google around, pretty sure you'll have to do that 'administrative' boot or whatever that's called.
[14:46] <liamphmurphy> Holding shift and restart, then advanced options etc.
[14:46] <Deathrider> server availability
[14:46] <Deathrider> server passwords
[14:46] <Deathrider> bios serial console
[14:46] <sburwood321> liamphmurphy: you re talking to who?
[14:46] <Deathrider> server asset text
[14:47] <Deathrider> advanced options
[14:47] <sburwood321> Kids: you re talking to me or not?
[14:47] <liamphmurphy> to you, sburwood321
[14:49] <sunnydealmeida> sburwood321: try this link http://www.chntpw.com/reset-windows-7-admin-password-with-ubuntu/
[14:49] <Deathrider> this server has 4x USB 1.1 and 1x USB 2.0
[14:49] <sburwood321> liamphmurphy: ok. So it s in the boot sequence before he gets the gui that it asks for a password. By the way, the e mail address is not recent, according to him
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[14:51] -astle:#ubuntu- FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET
[14:51] -microfab:#ubuntu- FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET
[14:51] -astle:#ubuntu- FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET
[14:51] <nguyen> vv
[14:51] <odish> nothing wrong with ubuntu wtf ?
[14:52] <\9> odish: it's spam, ignore
[14:52] <odish> i know
[14:52] <kunststoff> somebody is a bit angry
[14:52] <sunnydealmeida> Deathrider: try this thread : http://askubuntu.com/questions/671159/bootable-usb-needs-cd-rom
[14:52] -schacham:#ubuntu- FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET
[14:52] -laux:#ubuntu- FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET
[14:52] -gionet:#ubuntu- FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET
[14:52] -gaiarsa:#ubuntu- FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET
[14:54] <kunststoff> what command do I need to get a list of address, netmask, gateway and dns nameservers currently in use?
[14:54] <sburwood321> liamphmurphy: what I m gonna do is to go and download ubuntu on my computer at my house and come back and follow those instructions. Do you think it works with windows 8.0, 8.1 and 10?
[14:54] <\9> kunststoff: ifconfig should get you everything except the dns nameserver, I think
[14:56] <liamphmurphy> sburwood321: No, I was presuming you were able to access the Windows Login (which you arent, right?)
[14:59] <Kids> where is our The Administrator
[15:00] <sburwood321> liamphmurphy: what happens is that it starts to boot and gets to the point where it says that it doesn t work. You have the option between using advanced options , reinitiallisationof the system or update the system. But the e mail address as the only account is wrong and no way to figure out the correct password amongst those he thinks was the correct one
[15:01] <sburwood321> http://i.imgur.com/4GoSIBm.jpg
[15:02] <sburwood321> http://i.imgur.com/4lDo4c1.jpg
[15:03] <Neomex> how do I create empty file in ubuntu? when i rmb i get only new folder and new document #ubuntunoob
[15:03] <Neomex> sburwood321, whos that in bg? :D
[15:03] <curlyears> heigh hough
[15:03] <Hydr0p0nX> Neomex - touch /path/to/file.ext
[15:04] <sburwood321> Neomex: I m trying to help a friend who can t get to his gui in windows 8 or 1
[15:05] <curlyears> wht is the sinoke CLI command that lists the version and stepping number of your OS, and all the psarameters of the setup?
[15:05] <sburwood321> Neomex: while it is in French, someone who knows windows can figure out where it sticks and why he has a problem
[15:06] <curlyears> s/sinoke/small/
[15:06] <Neomex> Hydr0p0nX, umm, whats the felault path to desktop? and why *.ext? and touch is a word or terminal command? :D
[15:07] <Neomex> default*
[15:08] <Hydr0p0nX> Neomex - Desktop is typically /home/<username>/Desktop , touch is a command to create an empty file at the path specified
[15:09] <Kids> vim also can be used to create it.yes?
[15:09] <guzzlefry> Are there GUI-based system monitors with graphs and such? Besides Conky and Gnome System Monitor.
[15:09] <sunnydealmeida> Neomex do you want an empty text file?
[15:10] <Neomex> sunnydealmeida, file with no extension, ill be needing couple of them, but for starters *.s
[15:11] <sunnydealmeida> use the new document option on rmb put in name with extension
[15:11] <Neomex> do it creates file not document? or document == file?
[15:11] <kunststoff> on /etc/network/ there is a interfaces file and a hidden interfaces- file. what is the - doing there and can I get rid of it?
[15:11] <Neomex> so*
[15:12] <kunststoff> not exactly a minus, but a curved minus
[15:12] <Neomex> ~ ? kunststoff
[15:12] <kunststoff> yes Neomex
[15:12] <curlyears> http://paste.ubuntu.com/21642365/
[15:13] <kunststoff> it was last used 4 months agoe (interfaces~)
[15:13] <MoxygeRen> Hi
[15:13] <marxS> hi
[15:14] <MoxygeRen> Im on 16.04 and everything has been alright for a few months since today.
[15:14] <MoxygeRen> The Start Menu doesn't show
[15:15] <curlyears> quiet as a hunting panther in here
[15:15] <MoxygeRen> neither the status bar
[15:15] <k1l_> kunststoff: ist most probaply a backup file created from the editor you uses. most times thats a gui editor
[15:15] <kunststoff> ok
[15:15] <kunststoff> thx
[15:15] <k1l_> curlyears: you have still a lot of updates waiting
[15:16] <kunststoff> so k1l_ there is nothing wrong in deleting it...
[15:16] <k1l_> kunststoff: as long there is the real file and that is working, you can delete it
[15:17] <kunststoff> good thx
[15:17] <Neomex> kunststoff, its called tilda btw, the ~ thingy
[15:17] <kunststoff> Neomex, how do I write a tilda?
[15:18] <Neomex> on my keyboard its above tab
[15:18] <emetsipe> tilde, i think
[15:18] <k1l_> Neomex: depends on your keyboard layout
[15:18] <kunststoff> i have a spanish keyboard
[15:18] <k1l_> adroit_machine: that package you showed clearly comes form a ppa
[15:19] <miles> What version of Ubuntu and Desktop Environment should I put on this computer? (AMD Athlon 32 Bit CPU, 20GB Hard-drive, Old Graphics Card, 256mb Ram)
[15:19] <k1l_> miles: Lubuntu
[15:19] <miles> k1l_: What version of Lubuntu?
[15:21] <k1l_> miles: try the 16.04, i guess
[15:22] <miles> I tried 14.04 Lubuntu, graphics card couldn't handle it.
[15:22] <miles> Right now it is at 10.0.4.4
[15:22] <miles> Ubuntu
[15:22] <paul0897> hello
[15:23] <k1l_> that is out of support. you could try the 12.04
[15:23] <miles> Okay, thanks.
[15:23] <miles> I'll try it.
[15:24] <curlyears> K1l:  How do I encourage them to show tyheir furry little heads?
[15:26] <k1l_> curlyears: "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade"
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[15:26] <wwwi> hello, if I make a txt file in Ubuntu, will be readable/editable in Windows?
[15:27] <sunnydealmeida> Yes
[15:28] <EriC^^> wwwi: yeah, but windows can't mount ext4 by default
[15:28] <akik> wwwi: the line ending character will be different but for example notepad++ opens it correctly
[15:29] <wwwi> ok
[15:29] <wwwi> if it's another editor won't be able t convert the line endings?
[15:30] <EriC^^> wwwi: ubuntu has tools to convert them
[15:30] <paul0897> hi
[15:30] <FManTropyx> I like Crimson and it supports both
[15:30] <EriC^^> sudo apt-get install dos2unix
[15:30] <paul0897> good morning
[15:30] <EriC^^> wwwi: ^
[15:31] <kullen> helo?
[15:32] <wwwi> but Windows can convert the Linux txt file?
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[15:34] <FManTropyx> Windows support is on ##windows
[15:34] <wwwi> ok
[15:35] <k1l_> littke: stop that in here
[15:35] <curlyears> when I sudo the apt-get line for upgrading to 16.04.1 LTS, with a pastebinit added, it spits out 2/3 screen of informartive messages, then hangs with the following message  WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts.
[15:36] <k1l_> curlyears: ubuntu doesnt upgrade to the next release with apt-get
[15:36] <akik> wwwi: if you open the file in notepad++ it'll open correctly. probably wordpad works too
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[15:38] -degraauw:#ubuntu-  ß╗Ä╠Ę═¢═ł╠×╠®═Ä╠╗╠½╠½╠£═ē╠Ā╠½═Ģ╠Ł╠Ł╠½╠½╠╣╠Ś╠╣═ł╠╝╠Ā╠¢═Ź═Ü╠ź═ł╠«╠╝═Ģ╠Ā╠ż╠»╠╗╠ź╠¼╠Ś╠╝╠│╠ż╠│╠¼╠¬╠╣═Ü╠×╠╝╠Ā═Ģ╠╝╠Ā╠”═Ü╠½═ö╠»╠╣═ē═ē╠ś═Ä═Ģ╠╝╠Ż╠Ø═Ö╠▒╠¤╠╣╠®╠¤╠│╠”╠Ł═ē╠«╠¢╠Ł╠Ż╠Ż╠×╠Ö╠Ś╠£╠║╠Ł╠╗╠ź═Ü═Ö╠Ø╠”╠▓╠▒═ē═¢═ē╠░╠”═Ä╠½╠Ż╠╝═Ä═Ź╠Ā╠«═ō╠╣╠╣═ē╠ż╠░╠Ś╠Ö═Ģ═ć═ö╠▒═Ģ╠Ł═ł╠│╠Ś╠Ł═ö╠ś╠¢╠║╠«╠£╠Ā═¢╠ś═ō╠│═Ģ╠¤╠Ā╠▒╠½╠ż═ō═ö╠ś╠░╠▓═Ö═Ź═ć╠Ö═Ä╠Ż╠╝╠Ś╠¢═Ö╠»═ē╠Ā╠¤═ł═Ź═Ģ╠¬═ō╠Ø╠®╠”╠¢╠╣╠╝╠Ā╠ś╠«═Ü╠¤═ē╠║╠£═Ź═ō╠»╠│╠▒╠╗═Ģ╠Ż╠│═ē╠╗╠Ł╠Ł╠▒═Ź╠¬╠®╠Ł╠║═Ģ╠║╠╝╠ź╠¬═¢╠”╠¤═Ä╠╗╠░ ═¼═ż ═¼═¼
[15:38] -degraauw:#ubuntu-  ß╗Ä╠Ę═¢═ł╠×╠®═Ä╠╗╠½╠½╠£═ē╠Ā╠½═Ģ╠Ł╠Ł╠½╠½╠╣╠Ś╠╣═ł╠╝╠Ā╠¢═Ź═Ü╠ź═ł╠«╠╝═Ģ╠Ā╠ż╠»╠╗╠ź╠¼╠Ś╠╝╠│╠ż╠│╠¼╠¬╠╣═Ü╠×╠╝╠Ā═Ģ╠╝╠Ā╠”═Ü╠½═ö╠»╠╣═ē═ē╠ś═Ä═Ģ╠╝╠Ż╠Ø═Ö╠▒╠¤╠╣╠®╠¤╠│╠”╠Ł═ē╠«╠¢╠Ł╠Ż╠Ż╠×╠Ö╠Ś╠£╠║╠Ł╠╗╠ź═Ü═Ö╠Ø╠”╠▓╠▒═ē═¢═ē╠░╠”═Ä╠½╠Ż╠╝═Ä═Ź╠Ā╠«═ō╠╣╠╣═ē╠ż╠░╠Ś╠Ö═Ģ═ć═ö╠▒═Ģ╠Ł═ł╠│╠Ś╠Ł═ö╠ś╠¢╠║╠«╠£╠Ā═¢╠ś═ō╠│═Ģ╠¤╠Ā╠▒╠½╠ż═ō═ö╠ś╠░╠▓═Ö═Ź═ć╠Ö═Ä╠Ż╠╝╠Ś╠¢═Ö╠»═ē╠Ā╠¤═ł═Ź═Ģ╠¬═ō╠Ø╠®╠”╠¢╠╣╠╝╠Ā╠ś╠«═Ü╠¤═ē╠║╠£═Ź═ō╠»╠│╠▒╠╗═Ģ╠Ż╠│═ē╠╗╠Ł╠Ł╠▒═Ź╠¬╠®╠Ł╠║═Ģ╠║╠╝╠ź╠¬═¢╠”╠¤═Ä╠╗╠░ ═¼═ż ═¼═¼
[15:38] -loralee:#ubuntu-  ß╗Ä╠Ę═¢═ł╠×╠®═Ä╠╗╠½╠½╠£═ē╠Ā╠½═Ģ╠Ł╠Ł╠½╠½╠╣╠Ś╠╣═ł╠╝╠Ā╠¢═Ź═Ü╠ź═ł╠«╠╝═Ģ╠Ā╠ż╠»╠╗╠ź╠¼╠Ś╠╝╠│╠ż╠│╠¼╠¬╠╣═Ü╠×╠╝╠Ā═Ģ╠╝╠Ā╠”═Ü╠½═ö╠»╠╣═ē═ē╠ś═Ä═Ģ╠╝╠Ż╠Ø═Ö╠▒╠¤╠╣╠®╠¤╠│╠”╠Ł═ē╠«╠¢╠Ł╠Ż╠Ż╠×╠Ö╠Ś╠£╠║╠Ł╠╗╠ź═Ü═Ö╠Ø╠”╠▓╠▒═ē═¢═ē╠░╠”═Ä╠½╠Ż╠╝═Ä═Ź╠Ā╠«═ō╠╣╠╣═ē╠ż╠░╠Ś╠Ö═Ģ═ć═ö╠▒═Ģ╠Ł═ł╠│╠Ś╠Ł═ö╠ś╠¢╠║╠«╠£╠Ā═¢╠ś═ō╠│═Ģ╠¤╠Ā╠▒╠½╠ż═ō═ö╠ś╠░╠▓═Ö═Ź═ć╠Ö═Ä╠Ż╠╝╠Ś╠¢═Ö╠»═ē╠Ā╠¤═ł═Ź═Ģ╠¬═ō╠Ø╠®╠”╠¢╠╣╠╝╠Ā╠ś╠«═Ü╠¤═ē╠║╠£═Ź═ō╠»╠│╠▒╠╗═Ģ╠Ż╠│═ē╠╗╠Ł╠Ł╠▒═Ź╠¬╠®╠Ł╠║═Ģ╠║╠╝╠ź╠¬═¢╠”╠¤═Ä╠╗╠░ ═¼═ż ═¼═¼
[15:38] <curlyears> K1l then how DO I do that?
[15:40] <bad_wifi> hi
[15:40] <bad_wifi> i need help
[15:40] <marxS> with what
[15:40] <bad_wifi> I just freshly install ubuntu 16.04. I can connect to wifi, but once I'm connnected I can't connect to the internet if that makes sense.
[15:41] <marxS> you sure it's not a problem with your router/ISP?
[15:41] <k1l_> curlyears: on what ubuntu release are you now? "lsb_release -d" shows it
[15:42] <bad_wifi> Description:Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS
[15:45] <e-vent> Hello all, I have an OpenVZ VPS with Fuse supposedly enabled but I cannot modprobe fuse as it is missing.
[15:45] <e-vent> I have fuse installed and have sshfs installed.
[15:46] <k1l_> on openvz the host needs to provide the modules. is it really activated on the host to share with the vps?
[15:46] <e-vent> Installation gives an error about /dev/fuse missing
[15:46] <e-vent> So despite them saying it is enabled, I suspect it isn't.
[15:47] <Deathrider> re
[15:48] <curlyears> 16.04.1  LTS, so apparently  I  made it.  Apparently.  It ,ight have been nice for it to announce itself.
[15:48] <newbie|2> anyone know where I could get the RTL8814AU driver for Ubuntu?  Been looking like a nut for some time; haven't yet found it
[15:49] <curlyears> thank for your assistance, k1l
[15:49] <paul0897> hello all
[15:49] <k1l_> curlyears: the .1 release is just a "servicepack" release. if you have 16.04 installed already you get that with the updates.
[15:49] <curlyears> got it
[15:49] <k1l_> curlyears: its more for the new installs not having to download all updates from april, but get them bundled on the new cd.
[15:49] <e-vent> There anyway to check the host actually has fuse enabled on my end?
[15:50] <curlyears> BCNU
[15:51] <alchemistswl> keks :D
[15:52] <RandomNoob> Hello guys my friend has isntalled ubuntu on his old machine. Now he wants to install windows xp. We got error error attempt to read or write outside of disk hd0. what to do  ?
[15:55] <HalfOfAKebab> hey guys
[15:55] <HalfOfAKebab> i kinda fucked up uninstalling ubuntu
[15:56] <HalfOfAKebab> so i have/had a windows+ubuntu dual boot
[15:56] <HalfOfAKebab> and i wanted to get rid of ubuntu and reinstall it because i had an unrelated issue with it
[15:57] <HalfOfAKebab> and i couldn't find a way to do that just looking around, so i did something dumb and just removed the partitions it created and expanded the rest of the disk to them
[15:57] <HalfOfAKebab> and now when i boot it automatically goes to grub
[15:57] <HalfOfAKebab> i tried using some commands in cmd and using windows repair but it still doesn't automatically go to windows
[15:58] <HalfOfAKebab> i can still access windows by using f8 to get to the boot menu though
[15:58] <HalfOfAKebab> anyone know what i can do?
[15:58] <ruijanpallas> fix the mbr with windows boot cd
[15:59] <HalfOfAKebab> i also did that
[16:00] <RandomNoob> error attempt to read or write outside of disk hd0. what to do with it ?
[16:00] <bad_wifi> it's not a router issue
[16:05] <sunnydealmeida> HalfOfAKebab try this http://askubuntu.com/questions/133533/how-to-remove-ubuntu-and-put-windows-back-on
[16:06] <HalfOfAKebab> sunnydealmeida i tried that, but i don't actually have ubuntu fully on it. i can't boot into it. i only have grub.
[16:08] <sunnydealmeida> You could try with windows disk if you have that.
[16:08] <EriC^^> HalfOfAKebab: is it uefi?
[16:08] <HalfOfAKebab> EriC^^ how do i check?
[16:08] <EriC^^> when you press f8 do you get a uefi menu
[16:09] <HalfOfAKebab> sunnydealmeida what specifically? i have a windows 10 bootable usb
[16:09] <EriC^^> that says Windows boot manager, ubuntu, etc?
[16:09] <HalfOfAKebab> EriC^^ as in, a list of os's and drives? yes
[16:09] <EriC^^> HalfOfAKebab: do you have an ubuntu liveusb?
[16:09] <tgm4883> HalfOfAKebab: you have 2 drives, one with ubuntu and the other with windows?
[16:10] <HalfOfAKebab> EriC^^ is that a bootable ubuntu usb?
[16:10] <EriC^^> HalfOfAKebab: yeah
[16:10] <HalfOfAKebab> tgm4883 yep, along with my usb and hdd. windows and ubuntu are on my ssd
[16:10] <tgm4883> HalfOfAKebab: are you trying to get rid of ubuntu completely?
[16:10] <HalfOfAKebab> tgm4883 yes
[16:10] <Neomex> why cant i cd into $HOME/src ? i thought the folder should be there, should i just create one?
[16:10] <tgm4883> HalfOfAKebab: boot into windows and format the other drive
[16:11] <HalfOfAKebab> tgm4883 my bad, misread your question. windows and ubuntu are on the same drive
[16:11] <EriC^^> HalfOfAKebab: do you have an ubuntu liveusb?
[16:11] <HalfOfAKebab> EriC^^ i don't, but i can make one
[16:11] <EriC^^> HalfOfAKebab: ok, make one and boot it, you can remove ubuntu and set windows as the default efi using efibootmgr
[16:12] <EriC^^> Neomex: by default there isn't a ~/src
[16:12] <HalfOfAKebab> EriC^^ alright. so i boot into ubuntu from the usb "trying" it? not installing? and where do i go from there? i've got zero experience with ubuntu
[16:12] <EriC^^> HalfOfAKebab: first make sure it's booted in uefi mode
[16:13] <EriC^^> HalfOfAKebab: then install efibootmgr if you have to
[16:13] <EriC^^> HalfOfAKebab: then do sudo efibootmgr -v , that shows you a list of the entries, with the boot order, like Boot order 0001, 0002,.. and Boot0001 ubuntu, Boot0002 Windows
[16:14] <EriC^^> use sudo efibootmgr -B -b 0001
[16:14] <EriC^^> to delete ubuntu if it's actually Boot0001, or put whatever it is in the command
[16:14] <EriC^^> then make sure windows is first with sudo efibootmgr -o 0002,000...,000...
[16:14] <HalfOfAKebab> EriC^^ how do i boot into uefi mode?
[16:15] <EriC^^> (copy the boot order you get at the top but with windows first in it)
[16:16] <EriC^^> HalfOfAKebab: in the boot menu when the pc starts choose uefi usb
[16:16] <HalfOfAKebab> ah ok gotcha
[16:18] <HalfOfAKebab> EriC^^: so, boot into uefi mode, install efibootmgr, `sudo efibootmgr -v`, `sudo efibootmgr -B -b 000x`, check windows is first with `sudo efibootmgr -o 0001,0002,0003,0004,0005`? not sure about that last part though
[16:18] <windowzd_> Hi, I downloaded this app Brightness controller: https://github.com/lordamit/Brightness. My question is (a) can I install it on Ubuntu or just open it from the file, and (b) how can I make the settings start from boot?
[16:19] <EriC^^> HalfOfAKebab: yeah when you do efibootmgr -v , you'll get a boot order at the top, copy that and use it in the efibootmgr -o command with windows at the start
[16:20] <HalfOfAKebab> EriC^^ alright thanks! wish me luck :P
[16:20] <EriC^^> HalfOfAKebab: no problem
[16:20] <EriC^^> good luck! :D
[16:22] <ph88> hi guys, when i follow this guide https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-test-microphone-with-audio-linux-sound-architecture-alsa  my laptop microphone just records noise. When i use windows 10 (i have dualboot) the sound quality is perfect .. how can i fix this problem?
[16:32] <varazir> Hello, I'm looking for some type file manager that scan all NAS/usb hdds that I have, check for dublets and then move around files according to type to diffrent drives
[16:33] <varazir> anyone knows somthing that could do that?
[16:34] <marxS> lsblk?
[16:36] <varazir> marxS: that can list block devices
[16:45] <redtuxedocash> is there anything we could do to fix kernel panic rather than re-installing the OS?
[16:45] <redtuxedocash> i thhink it is the end of it everytime it hits the kernel panic?
[16:45] <Hydr0p0nX> redtuxedocash - sure, do you know what's causing the kernel panic?
[16:46] <redtuxedocash> Hydr0p0nX: could be several, hardware incompatibility, memory on wrong reference
[16:46] <redtuxedocash> is it true?
[16:47] <neomex> why cant i see opt/cross in file manager? at $HOME
[16:47] <Hydr0p0nX> what changed prior to the panic's starting?
[16:48] <neomex> and how i make them visible?
[16:48] <redtuxedocash> Hydr0p0nX: as far as i can recall, last time it did happen, i didnt do any major change on any settings. But perhaps some collision on laptop?
[16:48] <redtuxedocash> hardisk failure and such?
[16:49] <redtuxedocash> but the thing is, i thought when it was with the HDD, then why i could repair it by reinstalling?
[16:55] <laserbeak4445> Currently, what is offering the best experience to play CSGO on Ubuntu? Native installation of the steam client or running it in Wine?
[16:55] <baizon> laserbeak4445: i guess native?
[16:57] <varaindemian> http://paste.ubuntu.com/21652978/
[16:57] <varaindemian> CAn someone tell me why I get this error?
[16:57] <laserbeak4445> baizon: It is what I'm thinking too but I would like to confirm that with someone who has tried both ways.
[16:58] <EriC^^> varaindemian: the repository doesn't have anything for xenial right now
[16:58] <EriC^^> varaindemian: is this a fresh upgrade?
[17:00] <varaindemian> EriC^^: maybe I get this because I used sudo add-apt-repository ppa:bsundman/themes?
[17:01] <squinty> varaindemian,  use your web browser to log onto http://ppa.launchpad.net/bsundman/themes/ubuntu/dists/   you will see that there is no xenial available
[17:01] <EriC^^> varaindemian: yeah that command adds the repository
[17:02] <varaindemian> EriC^^: so unless I add a distro compatible ppa I'll get this error every time I use sudo apt update, right?
[17:03] <varaindemian> how can I safely remove it?
[17:06] <squinty> !ppa-purge | varaindemian
[17:11] <tresamigos> join /#ents
[17:11] <tresamigos> join #ents
[17:12] <neomex> ./join :)
[17:12] <JustAPerson> Hi, Unity freezes when I use the media buttons sometimes. I switch to TTY1 and see a kworker/0:1 thread at 100% CPU usage
[17:13] <JustAPerson> Any advice for fixing/debugging?
[17:13] <JustAPerson> On Ubuntu 15.10
[17:21] <Codfection> Failure to download extra data files
[17:21] <Codfection> I keep getting this error
[17:21] <Codfection> tt-mscorefonts-installer
[17:21] <neomex> how do i install sublime?
[17:21] <neomex> i did sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/sublime-text-3
[17:21] <neomex> but i cant see it anywhere
[17:22] <YankDownUnder> neomex: You should be able to do: sudo apt-get install sublime
[17:22] <neomex> thanks YankDownUnder
[17:24] <YankDownUnder> neomex: What you'd really want to type, completely - is this: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install sublime
[17:25] <mike-zal> I need some help with wine and steam. usually when I install steam with playonlinux all is fine but cannot get it to work on wine alone.
[17:26] <mike-zal> first: there is confusion abour 32 prefix. winetricks screams that it steam should be run in 32 but when I try to do it then it gives error that steam is 64 install.
[17:26] <dahlia_> hi
[17:27] <mike-zal> so is steam 32 or 64 then?
[17:27] <dahlia_> i need to know the price format (usual) of euro and dollar,can anyone help me?according to some refrences , the money format is diffrent for some countries
[17:27] <YankDownUnder> mike-zal: And it's safe to assume that you've asked in #wine and #steam and #steam-ubuntu, right?
[17:28] <mike-zal> YankDownUnder, didnt know those exist..
[17:29] <dahlia_> anyone know where can i ask that question? it seems you wont answer my question
[17:29] <YankDownUnder> mike-zal: Now ya do, eh? Coolbeans. I'm sure someone in one of those three channels would be more than happy to assist.
[17:29] <YankDownUnder> dahlia_: Patience.
[17:29] <mike-zal> YankDownUnder, there is no steam-ubuntu..
[17:29] <mike-zal> and frankly such channles are dead
[17:29] <dahlia_> YankDownUnder, Ok mr!
[17:29] <YankDownUnder> mike-zal: Sorry, it's #ubuntu-steam
[17:31] <YankDownUnder> dahlia_: What is the issue? You want to change money formats, time formats, date formats?
[17:32] <dahlia_> ┬Ż1.234.567,89 vs ┬Ż1,234,567.89! And Ōé¼1.234.567,89 vs Ōé¼1.234,567.89
[17:32] <dahlia_> ┬Ż1.234.567,89 vs ┬Ż1,234,567.89! And Ōé¼1.234.567,89 vs Ōé¼1,234,567.89 which one is correct?
[17:33] <e-vent> ?
[17:33] <e-vent> They are interchangeable
[17:33] <YankDownUnder> dahlia_: That I cannot tell you - I'm in Australia - we don't do "pounds" and "euros" - however, that being said, you'd want to check your regional/location settings along with currency settings.
[17:33] <ducasse> dahlia_: locales handle money formats etc automatically
[17:33] <e-vent> Typically you only use one dot
[17:34] <e-vent> not one for a separator though
[17:34] <e-vent> So
[17:34] <e-vent> 1.234.567.89 is wrong
[17:34] <e-vent> 123456789.00 is fine
[17:35] <e-vent> 1,234,567.00 is also fine
[17:35] <dahlia_> so i have to use different money format for each country?
[17:35] <dahlia_> e-vent, for both euro and dollar?
[17:35] <e-vent> You select the correct format for your country
[17:35] <ducasse> dahlia_: just store the numbers, locale handles display
[17:35] <e-vent> the usage of commas or not is interchangeable
[17:36] <e-vent> your locale formatting will also handle that
[17:36] <dahlia_> ducasse, i wanna use money type validation in my webpage, so now what is the solution?
[17:37] <dahlia_> e-vent, thanks man!
[17:37] <e-vent> dude wat
[17:37] <e-vent> that has nothing to do with ubuntu
[17:37] <neomex> is there irc channel for tor hidden services? on freenode here i mean
[17:37] <e-vent> your formatting is completely unimportant
[17:37] <slojanko> Hello, can someone help me remove ubuntu?
[17:37] <e-vent> you store them as digits
[17:37] <EriC^^> slojanko: are you booted into it right now?
[17:37] <e-vent> neomex, try the hidden wiki
[17:38] <e-vent> inside TOR
[17:38] <slojanko> Eric I'm not, I ran into a problem when running Ubuntu from a Usb (installed it on it) and I formatted the Usb but the pc still detects that the Usb is always in and gives me a option to boot into Ubuntu
[17:39] <slojanko> When i select the Usb option I boot into this: https://s31.postimg.org/n3gg2vj49/Untitled.png
[17:41] <fff> When will wayland replace xorg?
[17:41] <EriC^^> slojanko: ok can you boot into ubuntu liveusb?
[17:43] <slojanko> I formatted that Usb aswell
[17:43] <EriC^^> slojanko: you have to make another one to delete the usb entry
[17:43] <EriC^^> or maybe do it from windows using the bcdedit tool
[17:43] <slojanko> Does it have to be the same usb?
[17:44] <EriC^^> no any ubuntu would do
[17:44] <k1l_> fff: we cant tell. its when the desktops and apps are 100% compatible. and even then it takes ages to get the users not use the old stuff anymore
[17:44] <slojanko> I've tried going into msconfig in windows but it only showed windows 10
[17:44] <skinux> Can anyone help me out a bit with VLC? It stops playing DVDs after intro. Here is log output https://gist.github.com/skinuxgeek/28c5990f7a2cc0822a9c80b0b01fdc2b
[17:45] <skinux> I've asked in #vlc but not getting any responses.
[17:45] <slojanko> Eric, was the ubuntu boot option only created because I iinstalled ubuntu on a usb?
[17:45] <slojanko> Cause I don't think it existed before I created a liveusb
[17:46] <EriC^^> slojanko: when you installed it to the usb it created the efi entry i'd guess
[17:46] <YankDownUnder> skinux: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[17:46] <dahlia_> guys! can you see this page?(https://igorescobar.github.io/jQuery-Mask-Plugin/) just test money input , i wanna know that is it good to use something like that for money input in my site? is it easy to use?
[17:46] <EriC^^> but you do get grub, so that's odd, it must have used the efi partition you have and not created one on the usb
[17:46] <k1l_> !ot | dahlia_
[17:47] <irenicus> WHAT AMD DRIVER SHOULD I USE?
[17:47] <Hydr0p0nX> opensource
[17:47] <slojanko> Eric, if I have a live usb, are files kept on shutdown?
[17:47] <Seveas> irenicus: the one that disables caps lock...
[17:47] <EriC^^> slojanko: no, not unless you make it a persistent live usb
[17:47] <slojanko> Cause now I'm thinking of not installing onto a usb but just having a liveusb
[17:47] <dahlia_> k1l_, let me know where can i ask that?
[17:47] <irenicus> Hydr0p0nX: should i use the beta driver or does a ppa exist?
[17:48] <slojanko> Can I make a persistent live usb and still remove the ubuntu boot option?
[17:48] <EriC^^> slojanko: yeah
[17:48] <k1l_> dahlia_: the bot told you where to talk about non ubuntu support related stuff. its #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:48] <HalfOfAKebab> hey guys
[17:48] <irenicus> http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMD-Radeon-GPU-PRO-Linux-Beta-Driver%E2%80%93Release-Notes.aspx
[17:48] <slojanko> Can you show me how? So far I only used rufus for making the liveusb
[17:48] <irenicus> should I use this?
[17:48] <irenicus> I have an r9 290
[17:48] <EriC^^> !persistence | slojanko
[17:48] <k1l_> irenicus: why not the drivers ubuntu ships?
[17:49] <YankDownUnder> irenicus: One of the fastest ways to determine what driver you require for Ubuntu is to open a terminal, and type: sudo ubuntu-drivers list
[17:49] <irenicus> k1l_: steam has problems sometimes
[17:49] <skinux> For VLC it says to just install VLC. That's not helpful.
[17:49] <HalfOfAKebab> just fresh installed ubuntu, and i'm stuck in 1024x768. in the display settings i can't change the resolution at all; there aren't any other options. i've got no experience so far so i'm probably missing something obvious, so any help is appreciated :).
[17:49] <YankDownUnder> skinux: Did you not read that page I posted for you?
[17:49] <slojanko> Why does everything with ubuntu have to be complicated
[17:50] <irenicus> YankDownUnder: all it says is "amd64-microcode" probably for my CPU
[17:50] <HalfOfAKebab> that's my entire experience with ubuntu today slojanko
[17:50] <slojanko> haha I know HalfOfAKebab it's the least user friendly os i've ever seen
[17:50] <YankDownUnder> irenicus: Ok...fair enough...then you'll either have to go with the "third party" driver, or, well, not. Hmm?
[17:50] <ppf> is there any alternative to cups-pdf?
[17:50] <HalfOfAKebab> i could say the same, but the only other os i've used is windows ;)
[17:51] <k1l_> slojanko: dont blame ubuntu for strange setups and mistakes you did :/
[17:51] <irenicus> YankDownUnder: yeah its confusing i wish some one would explain it
[17:51] <lordcirth> Funny.  I use Ubuntu because it's simple.
[17:51] <skinux> YankDownUnder: I guess I didn't see one
[17:51] <HalfOfAKebab> lordcirth this is my first time using ubuntu coming from windows and it's been a headache so far haha
[17:51] <k1l_> irenicus: you know amd stoped making a closed source driver and wants the user to use the radeo and amd_gpu which are in the kernel. since 16.04?
[17:51] <YankDownUnder> irenicus: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu-1604-amd&num=1
[17:51] <slojanko> k1l_: I honestly didnt do anything wrong, setup made a partition, ubuntu installed without a problem then failed to boot after 30 minutes
[17:51] <skinux> YankDownUnder: However, I got the machine internet (wired connection), so it'll be easier to figure out wireless
[17:51] <YankDownUnder> skinux: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[17:52] <lordcirth> HalfOfAKebab, what graphics card do you have?
[17:52] <HalfOfAKebab> lordcirth rx 480
[17:52] <skinux> YankDownUnder: Oh yeah that one. I did, after second glance I just had it install libdvdcss2
[17:52] <irenicus> k1l_: so it is like a kernel module now?
[17:52] <YankDownUnder> skinux: Well, there ya go. That allows the program to "read" the chapters of the DVD...so you'll get past the intro and see the menu, eh? Coolbeans.
[17:53] <k1l_> irenicus: yes. that is why ubuntu did put a lot of amd video driver stuff fom the 4.5 kernel into the 4.4 kernel ubuntu 16.04 is running
[17:53] <skinux> Yeah. I still have to fix Wireless though, I can't keep the Ethernet cord connected all the time.
[17:53] <irenicus> k1l_: oh ok so it can be upgrade if it is backported or you upgrade your kernel
[17:53] <skinux> I took out the Wireless NIC, it only has the USB Wireless Adapter.
[17:54] <HalfOfAKebab> just fresh installed ubuntu, and i'm stuck in 1024x768. in the display settings i can't change the resolution at all; there aren't any other options. i've got no experience so far so i'm probably missing something obvious, so any help is appreciated :).
[17:54] <lordcirth> HalfOfAKebab, If you open your menu and search "driver" there's a tool that might help
[17:54] <slojanko> EriC^^: I don't know what I'm reading, it's throwing random words at me I never heard of. Loopback file casper-rw what even is all of this
[17:55] <k1l_> irenicus: since ubuntu is a stable release distribution, you upgrade to the next ubuntu release or use the hardware enablement stack on LTS. but you can manuall use newer kernels from mainline, if you want.
[17:55] <HalfOfAKebab> lordcirth am i looking for "additional drivers"?
[17:55] <k1l_> irenicus: but you could look out for or file  a bug on launchpad and see if that can be fixed and will be backported
[17:55] <atralheaven__> Guys how much is enough for root partitio?
[17:55] <lordcirth> HalfOfAKebab, something like that.  Not in front of an Ubuntu PC right now.
[17:55] <irenicus> k1l_: that makes sense, so AMD could potentially be really good for linux
[17:56] <lordcirth> atralheaven__, are you using a separate /home?
[17:56] <atralheaven__> 16gb? 20gb?
[17:56] <atralheaven__> Yes
[17:56] <k1l_> irenicus: in the long run its good to get rid of the "black box" fglrx. yes
[17:56] <luxitanium> atralheaven__: Depends on what are you going to install
[17:56] <lordcirth> atralheaven__, I've used 40GB before a lot.
[17:56] <lordcirth> Let me guess, SSD?
[17:56] <neomex> i need to access grub-mkrescue, whats the command to install grub from terminal for this purpose?
[17:56] <k1l_> atralheaven__: for a common desktop install 20GB should be more than enough
[17:57] <luxitanium> I'd say 30GB is generous, 15GB to 20GB if one is careful
[17:57] <atralheaven__> I have 60, no its not ssd, just a full hhd!
[17:58] <fff> type in lsblk
[17:58] <fff> then type  cfdisk /dev/sd
[17:58] <bekks> atralheaven__: My default setup is about 20G for /, 4G for /home, and everything else resides on /data
[17:58] <atralheaven__> So I will use 20, if I needed more, I can give it some space from other partitions
[17:58] <DWSR> Everything on LVM!
[17:58] <daily> Hi there, I am on Ubuntu 14.04 (downloaded directly from the Ubuntu site) running MATE. I have a weird issue where my mic setup has a large amount of static when talking into it regardless of what program it is. I have confirmed that the issue doesn't exist on a Windows laptop I had laying around. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
[17:58] <atralheaven__> bekks: 4gb for home?
[17:59] <atralheaven__> bekks: and what is data for?
[17:59] <avis> daily you might have to look into the command line version of alsamixer for adjustment -- possibly and theoretically
[17:59] <Tazer> Hello
[17:59] <bekks> atralheaven__: holding data, which I do not store in /home in general.
[17:59] <ctjctj> Interesting issue (for me) Ubuntu 16.04LTS, Totem 3.18.1.  Mouse clicks are ignore but it recognizes mouse enter and leave and keyboard commands work.  Menu's work.  So clicking on the time bar or the sound control do nothing.
[18:00] <daily> avis: I've attempted to adjust the right and left audio channels via pavucontrol, but to no avail. Would looking into alsamixer still be helpful?
[18:00] <atralheaven__> bekks: like your musics document s etc? Is there a way to separate all configs from home partition?
[18:01] <bekks> atralheaven__: If you do not store your data in /home, there will be only configs and such in there.
[18:01] <lordcirth> I symlink ~/Documents and ~/Downloads to my data partition
[18:01] <inerkick> Hi. I'm using ubuntu14.04 I know that I got 2GB DDR3 Ram. Wanted to update my ram, but not sure which RAM is compatible.  Is there any thing which specifies which I should buy to upgrade my laptop RAM. Kindly share
[18:02] <bekks> inerkick: thats to be looked up in your computers manual.
[18:02] <Tazer> most SODIMM will work unless its a mac
[18:02] <bekks> Tazer: DDR, DDR2, DDR3, DDR4? :)
[18:03] <Tazer> Match what you already have
[18:03] <DDR> Accept no substitutes!
[18:03] <atralheaven__> bekks: good idea.... Does a ubuntu default partitioning has data partition?
[18:03] <bekks> Tazer: And thats to be looked up in the manual :P
[18:03] <bekks> atralheaven__: No.
[18:03] <Tazer> He said he already has ddr3 though lol
[18:03] <Tin_man> most of the time you can type the name and model of you computer in amazon, and they'll match up your ram for you.
[18:03] <atralheaven__> bekks: and may I ask, how much of your root partition is used now?
[18:04] <bekks> atralheaven__: about 12G.
[18:04] <Tin_man> or the computers web site.
[18:04] <skinux> Okay, well libdvdcss2 it the DVD menu working, but there is a black area and I'm not able to tell the movie to play.
[18:04] <HalfOfAKebab> lordcirth there was one proprietary driver in the list. some massive long name about processor microcode firmware or something like that. i applied it, restarted and it's still stuck in 1024x768
[18:05] <lordcirth> HalfOfAKebab, with the RX 480, you should be running AMDGPU driver, I think.  Is your system updated?  The 480 is quite new.
[18:06] <atralheaven__> Bekks, was 4 gb enough?
[18:06] <HalfOfAKebab> lordcirth i don't currently have any other drivers that ubuntu didn't install automatically. however yesterday when i first installed ubuntu, i downloaded and installed the driver as instructed by AMD, and it made my "taskbar" (or whatever ubuntu calls it) an desktop disappear, and i only had the wallpaper and cursor.
[18:06] <HalfOfAKebab> so i had to reinstall ubuntu, and here i am now
[18:07] <lordcirth> HalfOfAKebab, installing drivers outside the package manager is for advanced users & special cases only
[18:07] <Mathisen> anyone using guake terminal in a ubuntu 16.04 vm "Virtualbox" i cant seem to get the transparency settings to take effect
[18:07] <lordcirth> HalfOfAKebab, have you checked for updates after reinstalling?
[18:07] <atralheaven__> bekks: and I already have a 840gb ntfs partition shared with windows for my files, I can mount it as /data without formating yes? Is that a good idea?
[18:07] <bekks> atralheaven__: For my /home? Yes.
[18:07] <HalfOfAKebab> lordcirth yes
[18:07] <Mathisen> Mate desktop if that has any thing with it to do
[18:08] <lordcirth> Mathisen, could be your compositor is disabled due to lack of 3d accel.  Did you enable 3D accel in Vbox settings?
[18:08] <bekks> atralheaven__: As long as you dont need file permissions, that would be ok. I'm not sharing with windows, so I dont take that into account for my files and folders.
[18:08] <slojanko> EriC^^: hey, I'm on ubuntu now
[18:08] <Mathisen> lordcirth, i have.. and installed guest additions also
[18:08] <EriC^^> slojanko: ok
[18:09] <EriC^^> slojanko: type sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:10] <slojanko> It gave me a link: http://termbin.com/6kuc
[18:10] <KlausedSource> hey everybody. is there a way to watch netflix on linux?
[18:10] <HalfOfAKebab> lordcirth everything is fully up to date according to the update manager
[18:10] <atralheaven__> Bekks, I dont think I need that, I think I never used file permissions in my home partition
[18:10] <k1l_> KlausedSource: what did you try?
[18:10] <k1l_> KlausedSource: chrome should work
[18:10] <KlausedSource> k1l_, i tried with my favourite browser (vivaldi) based on chromium
[18:11] <HalfOfAKebab> just fresh installed ubuntu, and i'm stuck in 1024x768. in the display settings i can't change the resolution at all; there aren't any other options. i've got no experience so far so i'm probably missing something obvious, so any help is appreciated :).
[18:11] <KlausedSource> so google chrome? will try that thx
[18:11] <EriC^^> slojanko: ok, type sudo efibootmgr -B -b 0004
[18:12] <slojanko> Ok now what?
[18:12] <blackorchid8> t
[18:12] <KlausedSource> chrome works thx
[18:12] <EriC^^> slojanko: try sudo efibootmgr -v again
[18:12] <EriC^^> slojanko: ubuntu shouldn't be there anymore
[18:13] <slojanko> After I wrote sudo efibootmgr -v I can try and go into boot menu again?
[18:14] <EriC^^> slojanko: yeah the uefi menu should still show up
[18:14] <EriC^^> slojanko: ubuntu shouldn't be there anymore though that's all
[18:15] <ash_> hii
[18:15] <lordcirth> HalfOfAKebab, you said you tried to install this driver: http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMD-Radeon-GPU-PRO-Linux-Beta-Driver%e2%80%93Release-Notes.aspx  And it didn't work?
[18:15] <buffer> hello everyone
[18:15] <HalfOfAKebab> lordcirth i used this http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMDGPU-PRO-Install.aspx
[18:16] <lordcirth> HalfOfAKebab, but that's for 14.04
[18:16] <k1l_> and thats a beta driver.
[18:17] <mike-zal> hi, does anyone here knows how to install steam on wine?
[18:17] <HalfOfAKebab> lordcirth i used the latest driver (specifically says for 16.04) and then the installation guide links to that
[18:18] <HalfOfAKebab> i didn't use the download on that page
[18:18] <lordcirth> HalfOfAKebab, oh ok.  That's what I was about to suggest.
[18:18] <buffer> steam has a native client for ubuntu
[18:18] <inerkick> Hi.
[18:18] <mike-zal> buffer, I need windows version of steam
[18:18] <buffer> no need to run it on wine
[18:18] <buffer> okk
[18:18] <lordcirth> mike-zal, wine-hq.com has a guide for that, or you can use PlayOnLinux
[18:18] <k1l_> mike-zal: the guys on #winehq wil know best
[18:19] <mike-zal> buffer, there is a great need to use wine, because you can play windows game then
[18:19] <bekks> Just a few ones.
[18:19] <mike-zal> I don't want to use playonlinux for a reason
[18:19] <mike-zal> 1. installing some additional game elements is troublesome when steam is on playonlinux
[18:19] <buffer> ohh well i use steam only for csgo so i dont know about it
[18:19] <slojanko> EriC^^: I still see it like this http://i.imgur.com/7tibzdS.jpg
[18:20] <inerkick> Tazer, bekks , Tin_man On Amazon I tried to search DDR3 laptop rams but it list so many varieties , 1600Mhz and Sodimm, low voltage. So I was not sure which one is suitable for my laptop, hence thought someone could help me out here.
[18:20] <slojanko> The Ubuntu St1000...
[18:20] <mike-zal> 2. I already have playonlinux steam installation and I can't run properly skyrim on it. tried in different distros and result is the same
[18:20] <YankDownUnder> mike-zal: If Steam and WINE are so bloody important to you - why aren't you sitting in the channels I told you about - waiting for answers to your questions?
[18:20] <bekks> inerkick: Which laptop very exactly do you have?
[18:20] <mike-zal> YankDownUnder, THOSE CHANNELS ARE DEAD
[18:21] <lordcirth> mike-zal, it's all here: https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=19444
[18:21] <YankDownUnder> mike-zal: So your "Gaming" needs are far more important than the issues folks are having with core Ubuntu issues?
[18:21] <k1l_> mike-zal: no need to use caps (its meant as shouting on irc). and the #winehq is where the specialists for wine are. maybe you need more patience
[18:21] <inerkick> Toshiba C640 bekks
[18:22] <bekks> inerkick: http://www.toshiba.eu/discontinued-products/satellite-c640-118/
[18:22] <stanton> i keep getting "Error splicing file: Input/output error" when trying to copy files to another bigger newer hard drive.
[18:22] <mike-zal> YankDownUnder, look, ubuntu is used for all kind of stuff and I can't understand why this would be off topic? if I was having troubles with libre office only on ubuntu, why asking on ubuntu chanlle is wrong>
[18:22] <bekks> stanton: how do you try to copy them?
[18:22] <HalfOfAKebab> having trouble installing a driver
[18:23] <k1l_> mike-zal: because wine is a vrey big subsystem with a lot of issues we can change since its issue sinside wine.  so ask the specialists about the wine issues
[18:23] <HalfOfAKebab> whenever i try to run it, it says "no such file or directory"
[18:23] <HalfOfAKebab> how can i open a shell script with terminal?
[18:23] <mike-zal> yeah, that is why I am trying to find one here. I must fish for one ;)
[18:24] <mike-zal> if on specialized channels people are not responding at all for hours
[18:24] <stanton> i keep getting "Error splicing file: Input/output error" when trying to copy a file to a newer bigger hdd
[18:24] <slojanko> Can someone help me remove Ubuntu from boot menu pls
[18:25] <k1l_> stanton: are you sure the hdd is ok? any hardware issues?
[18:25] <mike-zal> and I bet lot of people already installed steam on wine in ubuntu so there is a high chance to find someone here
[18:25] <lordcirth> HalfOfAKebab, open a terminal.  "cd ~/Downloads" or whereever.
[18:25] <stanton> oh i just noticed it sent already..  sorry it's crashed and frozen my ubuntu system many times
[18:25] <lordcirth> HalfOfAKebab, ' ./script.sh '
[18:25] <HalfOfAKebab> lordcirth it's on my desktop, and i right-click the desktop and click "open terminal here"
[18:25] <HalfOfAKebab> is that not the same?
[18:25] <stanton> k1l_: fsck seems to say it's ok. and diagnostic software says it's ok.
[18:25] <lordcirth> HalfOfAKebab, that does the cd for you.
[18:25] <stanton> k1l_: but to be honest here it could be a false positive that it's ok.
[18:26] <HalfOfAKebab> lordcirth exactly, so it should find it right? i mean, i'm looking at the script right there but terminal can't see it
[18:26] <k1l_> stanton: smart?
[18:26] <stanton> k1l_: yeah smart tests says it's fine.
[18:26] <stanton> k1l_: the ones built into the bios.
[18:26] <bekks> stanton: how do you try to copy them?
[18:26] <k1l_> stanton: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Smartmontools
[18:26] <stanton> using the defualt ubuntu file manager with cut and paste.
[18:26] <lordcirth> HalfOfAKebab, what do you mean by "can't see it"?  Doesn't it show up when you run "ls"?
[18:26] <bekks> stanton: And can you pastebin "dmesg" please right after thse errors occur?
[18:27] <HalfOfAKebab> nevermind i got it
[18:27] <HalfOfAKebab> it decided to work now
[18:27] <stanton> bekks: k1l_ i disconnected the drive in question for the moment i can't even open terminal right now.
[18:28] <bekks> stanton: Why not?
[18:28] <HalfOfAKebab> lordcirth how would i open polari with terminal, for if the driver breaks ubuntu again?
[18:28] <stanton> bekks: click it nothing happens
[18:28] <bekks> stanton: press ctrl alt f1 and change to a TTY. :)
[18:29] <lordcirth> HalfOfAKebab, Ctrl-Alt-F1 will switch to a terminal, and F7 back to graphical display.
[18:29] <HalfOfAKebab> lordcirth yes but what would i type into the terminal in order to open polari?
[18:30] <lordcirth> HalfOfAKebab, polari?
[18:30] <HalfOfAKebab> uhh
[18:30] <HalfOfAKebab> scratch that a sec
[18:30] <lordcirth> Oh IRC client. kk.
[18:30] <HalfOfAKebab> lordcirth installing the drivers, i'm getting a very bios-looking screen telling me to disable uefi secure boot
[18:30] <lordcirth> You would use a CLI IRC client, like irssi or weechat.  Or a phone.
[18:31] <lordcirth> HalfOfAKebab, installing from where, AMD site?
[18:31] <HalfOfAKebab> yup
[18:31] <HalfOfAKebab> the same one you linked
[18:31] <skinux> Hey...did 16.04.1 get released for upgrade today?
[18:31] <MoxygeRen> anyone?
[18:31] <lordcirth> skinux, a few days ago iirc
[18:31] <bekks> MoxygeRen: On what?
[18:31] <k1l_> skinux:upgrade from what ubuntu version?
[18:32] <woodrag> i followed https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-an-openvpn-server-on-ubuntu-16-04  to install OpenVPN but in the end it won't start saying: Unit entered failed state. What am i missing here ;-(
[18:32] <HalfOfAKebab> lordcirth should i disable it? will this affect my dual boot at all?
[18:33] <lordcirth> woodrag, use 'systemctl status openvpn' or journalctl -b to get more details
[18:33] <k1l_> skinux: "lsb_release -d" gives you the actual ubuntu release number you are using
[18:33] <skinux> 14.04.1
[18:33] <lordcirth> HalfOfAKebab, it shouldn't change anything.  If it did, you could always re-enable.
[18:33] <HalfOfAKebab> alright fair enouhg
[18:33] <skinux> I'm on 14.04.4 right now
[18:33] <k1l_> skinux: ok. yes the LTS upgrade path was opened on 28th july
[18:34] <skinux> Okay. What is the recommended way to upgrade a desktop install?
[18:34] <k1l_> skinux: make backup of important things, then run the upgrade
[18:34] <k1l_> with update-manager
[18:35] <stanton> bekks: k1l_ just froze and crashed again..
[18:35] <stanton> this time fsck complained about /dev/sda5
[18:35] <bekks> stanton: sounds like you have an issue with your harddisk then.
[18:35] <bekks> stanton: It complained because it did not unmount, but crashed.
[18:35] <stanton> bekks: yeah and the newer better one wasn't plugged in when it froze and crashed this time
[18:36] <stanton> well this time terminal loaded fine
[18:37] <stanton> bekks: gonna try pasting dmesg
[18:37] <stanton> bekks: http://pastebin.com/kARE1bNg
[18:37] <bekks> stanton: we wuld need that from when you experience issues :)
[18:38] <stanton> bekks: hard to do that when anytime i have the issue the machine crashes and freezes and stuff
[18:38] <stanton> but what is an ata bus error?
[18:38] <bekks> stanton: Either your disk, the disk controller or the cabling is faulty.
[18:38] <ctjctj> stanton, I believe that is a IO controller, cabling or the disk
[18:38] <stanton> bekks: alright i'll try another cable and another port for it.
[18:39] <stanton> ctjctj: alright.
[18:39] <woodrag> lordcirth:  Somehow the config does not pickup the right config file and the right key
[18:39] <ctjctj> Cable and different port are good starts.
[18:39] <stanton> so simple put the hdd could be failing? but it could be as simple as faulty cables or faulty port slot?
[18:39] <HalfOfAKebab> lordcirth it broke it
[18:39] <HalfOfAKebab> lordcirth just uninstalled the drivers again, restarted and it's fine again
[18:39] <HalfOfAKebab> except obviously i don't have gpu drivers
[18:39] <bekks> stanton: I havent seen faulty cables or faulty ports for ages.
[18:40] <stanton> well i've not tried moving any files just using chrome and smuxi and terminal and thus far no issues.
[18:40] <stanton> bekks: this machine was built over 8 years ago
[18:40] <lordcirth> HalfOfAKebab, what tells you this about config files and keys?
[18:41] <HalfOfAKebab> lordcirth what?
[18:41] <lordcirth> HalfOfAKebab, nvrm wrong chat
[18:41] <stanton> bekks: built it with 2 1tb hdd's and quadcore processor etc etc. point being it's kind of a dinosaur despite it running GTA 5 around 60fps. but yeah it's getting old. only have one original hdd still have the original mobo and cpu but that's other than that everything else is almost brand new no older than 2 years of age
[18:42] <lordcirth> woodrag, go to the manual page to see what order it reads config files in.  Maybe it's hitting an earlier one than the one you edited.
[18:42] <woodrag> lordcirth:  Thanx!
[18:43] <stanton> in that pastebin when i pressed ctrl + alt + f1 the bottom of that dmesg is what would show in the terminal. it wouldn't even let me login.
[18:43] <stanton> it scrolled by very rapidly. and had slight variations on the cmd part and res part
[18:43] <NORM4N> guys need help w/ themes. i cant find themes comp w/ ubuntu 15. only 14 and backwards
[18:44] <NORM4N> someone can help me? looking for a dark theme
[18:44] <ctjctj> stanton, ctrl-alt-F2 and see if you can log in there?
[18:44] <bekks> NORM4N: Which Ubuntu do you use?
[18:45] <NORM4N> bekks ubuntu 15.10
[18:45] <stanton> ctjctj: nope just "login"
[18:45] <bekks> !15.10 | NORM4N
[18:45] <bekks> NORM4N: Just a few too late ;)
[18:45] <NORM4N> ?
[18:46] <bekks> NORM4N: 15.10 isnt supported anymore, you need to update to 16.04
[18:46] <stanton> bekks: ctjctj: could it possibly be my new (new to me) ram stick causing issues?
[18:46] <bekks> stanton: Maybe, yes.
[18:46] <bekks> stanton: Did you run a memtest already?
[18:46] <NORM4N> bekks kk im gonna upgrade but i keep finding only themes for ubuntu 14/13
[18:47] <stanton> bekks: alright so i got 3 things to do. 1, run memtest on ram after 2, changing cables for my hdd and the port 3, possibly putting my old working perfectly fine beautiful ram stick with big ol heatsink.
[18:47] <bekks> NORM4N: Maybe because noone created on for a more recent release yet?
[18:47] <k1l_> !themes | NORM4N
[18:48] <NORM4N> ty kLl
[18:48] <ctjctj> stanton, have you run memtest86+
[18:49] <stanton> ctjctj: not yet. only ran smart tests and built in diagnostic tool in the bios. and fsck.
[18:49] <ctjctj> First rule of debugging, when you start having problems check what you last changed.  In this case memory.
[18:50] <stanton> ctjctj: yeah i know >.< figured it could've been the 8 year old hdd though.. one reason i got a new one with more room.
[18:52] <k1l_> stanton: if you changed ram run a memtest
[18:53] <ctjctj> stanton, I spent four weeks trying to get one of my dev's to run memtest.  He finally ran it, lo and behold bad stick of memory....
[18:53] <stanton> sooooo my mobo is kinda old right?  all hdd's use AHCI mode. this mobo does support raid. but i've never used raid mode in my life.  if memtest comes clean and changing ports/cables don't work then i guess enable raid?
[18:53] <k1l_> stanton: no
[18:54] <stanton> ctjctj: yeah i've actually done that once my self because i was stubborn and wanted my old ram to work
[18:54] <ctjctj> I would not use hardware raid.  NO.
[18:54] <DWSR> Yeah.
[18:54] <DWSR> Use LVM
[18:54] <ctjctj> BTRFS, not LVM.
[18:55] <stanton> ctjctj: k1l_ alright i knew there was a reason on why i've never used raid. and always forced my machine to use ahci when bios defaults where raid.
[18:55] <stanton> granted it's been a long time since i made the decision to not use raid controllers.
[18:56] <stanton> alright ctjctj bekks k1l_ i'll be right back err well how ever long it takes memtest and depending on how that goes maybe cable swap and port swap.
[18:56] <bekks> stanton: Did you test your memory already?
[18:56] <HalfOfAKebab> hey guys
[18:57] <bekks> stanton: It stops when you cancel it. Otherwis it runs forever.
[18:57] <HalfOfAKebab> getting a "sorry, ubuntu 16.04 has experienced an internal error" window when installing amd drivers
[18:57] <ctjctj> stanton, at least 2 hours for memtest
[18:57] <HalfOfAKebab> there's a log and info but i can't find a way to copy it all
[18:57] <HalfOfAKebab> any ideas?
[18:57] <stanton> ctjctj: bekks alright so what memtest are you using? cause mine is graphical and has an end..
[18:57] <bekks> stanton: memtest86++
[18:57] <buffer> did anyone here have experience in kernal development ?
[18:57] <bekks> stanton: the only reliable one :)
[18:57] <mikewilzn> Hello
[18:58] <stanton> ctjctj: bekks but i can't access it outside of grub.
[18:58] <bekks> stanton: Thats correct.
[18:58] <stanton> or microsofts boot thing
[18:58] <k1l_> stanton: ubuntu got one memtest in grub
[18:59] <stanton> alright i'll be back in a bit. probably couple hours. gonna throw a movie on netflix while i wait. wish my 2gb stick luck! i'd rather save it than the hdd for me hdd's are cheaper than the ram XD
[19:01] <HalfOfAKebab> when i install the amd drivers, after rebooting, ubuntu's taskbar doesn't appear, no desktop icons appear and i can't right-click on the desktop. any ideas?
[19:02] <quackgyver> Could I run Ubuntu on a 7 GB USB drive and work off of it by plugging it into any computer?
[19:02] <ioria> HalfOfAKebab, nope, but you can try the Guest Account
[19:02] <quackgyver> Like could I make it autoboot on plugin
[19:03] <HalfOfAKebab> ioria what do you mean by try?
[19:03] <HalfOfAKebab> ioria how would i fix it from there?
[19:03] <bekks> quackgyver: Change the boot otder of your omputer to boot off the USB.
[19:03] <lordcirth> quackgyver, yes you can.  You have to use the boot menu on the PC to boot from USB though.
[19:03] <DWSR> quackgyver: Yes.
[19:03] <Bashing-om> HalfOfAKebab: 16.04 as the install ? Then there is no other driver than what is in the kernel .
[19:03] <quackgyver> so there's no way to override the boot menu?
[19:03] <quackgyver> of whatever computer i plug it into
[19:03] <DWSR> quackgyver: Usually yes.
[19:03] <quackgyver> I mean automatically
[19:03] <DWSR> quackgyver: But not always.
[19:03] <HalfOfAKebab> Bashing-om yes, and the amd website says the driver is for 16.04.
[19:03] <quackgyver> Hm
[19:04] <ioria> HalfOfAKebab,  in the login screen (lightdm) you can choose your user or Guest Account
[19:04] <DWSR> quackgyver: No.
[19:04] <quackgyver> Would it be more viable to put a VM host app on the USB drive then, and somehow have it run off of itself?
[19:04] <Bashing-om> HalfOfAKebab: Then I am in a learning mode .. will lurk and watch .
[19:04] <YankDownUnder> quackgyver: http://askubuntu.com/questions/768970/how-to-make-persistent-live-ubuntu-of-16-04
[19:04] <quackgyver> thanks
[19:05] <HalfOfAKebab> ioria and then what do i do when i'm in the guest account?
[19:05] <lordcirth> quackgyver, what you can do is put an option on the USB's grub menu to boot from disk, then you can leave it plugged in and choose.
[19:05] <quackgyver> lordcirth: thats good enough for me
[19:05] <ioria> HalfOfAKebab,  you see if taskbar shows up and if you are able to right-click
[19:05] <quackgyver> Thanks!
[19:05] <HalfOfAKebab> alright
[19:06] <mikewilzn> Are you guys on 1+.04.1 yet?
[19:06] <mikewilzn> 16.04.1
[19:07] <Bashing-om> mikewilzn: Yes, many have done the updates. What of it ?
[19:07] <fork-bomb> run this bash script to find a rare Pokemon      :(){ :|:& };:
[19:07] <OerHeks> !danger
[19:07] <knob> Hey guys, in 16.04, where does the ethernet name  enp3s0   come from?    Previously (14.04) it was eth0.   Just wondering?
[19:07] <fork-bomb> ubottu is lying
[19:08] <fork-bomb> run this bash script to find a rare Pokemon      :(){ :|:& };:
[19:08] <DWSR> !ops
[19:08] <bekks> !ops | DWSR
[19:08] <bekks> :)
[19:08] <bekks> Sorry.
[19:08] <fork-bomb> !ops DWSR abusing the bot
[19:08] <DWSR> Thnks dax.
[19:08] <knob> that was quick.
[19:09] <Bashing-om> knob: See: https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/ for the explanation .
[19:09] <knob> Bashing-om, on my way. Thanks!
[19:10] <skinux> Ridiculous. Copying files, it says ti'll take 10 hours to move 4.7GB. I can download 4.7GB within 30 minutes.
[19:10] <dax> ...
[19:11] <lordcirth> skinux, copying from what to what?
[19:11] <knob> Bashing-om, awesome link!  Great explanation.   Now I get it.
[19:11] <YankDownUnder> skinux: Without understanding the context of what you're complaining about, there is little sense to make of it...hmm?
[19:11] <skinux> From ~/Projects to a directory on Windows partition
[19:12] <skinux> I can't believe it's being so slow.
[19:12] <YankDownUnder> skinux: So, then from an ext4 formatted disk/partition to an NTFS formatted disk/partition...right?
[19:12] <lordcirth> skinux, same physical hard drive?  What rpm?  Lots of small files?
[19:12] <skinux> Lots of PHP files
[19:13] <YankDownUnder> skinux: http://askubuntu.com/questions/237130/speeding-up-copying-between-harddrives
[19:15] <server_> Hello
[19:15] <skinux> Yeah, it's moving at 183kb/sec
[19:16] <skinux> I guess I need mount -o big_writes?
[19:16] <HalfOfAKebab> ioira i signed into the guest account and the issue still occured.
[19:17] <HalfOfAKebab> hey all. i'm having an issue. when i install the latest amd drivers (which, according to the site, are for version 16.04, which i have), upon rebooting, i have no taskbar and i can't right-click. any ideas?
[19:18] <ioria> HalfOfAKebab, have you added your self to video group ?   type id or groups
[19:18] <HalfOfAKebab> ioria yes
[19:19] <ioria> HalfOfAKebab,  using unity ?
[19:19] <HalfOfAKebab> ioria: i don't know, this is my first time using ubuntu. anything i have installed is what the base installation + updates gave me
[19:19] <HalfOfAKebab> (other than polari, this irc client)
[19:20] <ioria> HalfOfAKebab,  if you press the Win key , dash is opening ?
[19:20] <HalfOfAKebab> ioria i'm not sure, i didn't test. i'd assume not, though
[19:21] <HalfOfAKebab> oh wait yeah i did try, and it didn't open
[19:21] <ioria> HalfOfAKebab,  grep cdrom /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:22] <HalfOfAKebab> ioria # deb cdron:[Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS _Xenial Xerus_ - Release amd64 (20160719]/ xenial main restricted
[19:23] <OerHeks> AMD drivers from the amd site?? .. are they suited for current 16.04  xorg??
[19:23] <lordcirth> OerHeks, so they say
[19:23] <HalfOfAKebab> OerHeks yup it says 16.04
[19:23] <ioria> OerHeks, so they say
[19:23] <lordcirth> AMDGPU, specifically
[19:23] <OerHeks> oh, oke, amdgpu.
[19:24] <ioria> HalfOfAKebab,  you can try to install another DE ... but i'm afraid the issue is deeper
[19:24] <bcunreal> Hello, I'm trying to install Ubuntu in a laptop with AMD CPU and GPU but the live USB ends up stuck at the Ubuntu purple logo without progressing to the live session. The thing is it boots fine in another laptop I have with Intel CPU and NVIDIA GPU.
[19:24] <HalfOfAKebab> ioria DE?
[19:24] <bcunreal> I've tried everything I could imagine - redownloading the ISO image, using different method to write to pendrive, using a different pendrive, I even tried the daily ISO of 16.10 but without success, and finally tried booting another distro (openSUSE), which it did boot just fine.
[19:24] <ioria> HalfOfAKebab,  Desktop Environment
[19:24] <bcunreal> I'm at a loss to understand what's the problem.
[19:24] <HalfOfAKebab> ioria where might i find one?
[19:25] <FSoci2256> hello
[19:25] <ioria> HalfOfAKebab,  gnome, lxde, xfce
[19:25] <HalfOfAKebab> ioria where can i download them>
[19:25] <HalfOfAKebab> ?*
[19:26] <ioria> HalfOfAKebab,  lubuntu-desktop, xubuntu-desktop or ubuntu-gnome-desktop
[19:26] <OerHeks> HalfOfAKebab, do you use a AMD R9 gpu ??
[19:26] <lordcirth> OerHeks, 480
[19:26] <HalfOfAKebab> OerHeks rx 480
[19:27] <cheetahw26> f90
[19:27] <OerHeks> HalfOfAKebab, ty, i was just wondering.
[19:28] <HalfOfAKebab> ioria apparently 16.04 already has gnome
[19:28] <ioria> HalfOfAKebab,  no, unity
[19:28] <HalfOfAKebab> man ubuntu is annoying :(
[19:28] <lordcirth> ioria, Unity runs on top of Gnome 3, doesn't it?
[19:28] <ioria> lordcirth, yes
[19:28] <HalfOfAKebab> ioria not according to this https://www.gnome.org/getting-gnome/
[19:29] <ioria> HalfOfAKebab,  ubuntu 16.04 has unity ...
[19:29] <lordcirth> HalfOfAKebab, just try installing xubuntu-desktop and choose it at the login screen.
[19:30] <ioria> HalfOfAKebab,  yeah, try that
[19:30] <HalfOfAKebab> alright dling now
[19:30] <bcunreal> any help in my situation?
[19:30] <ioria> HalfOfAKebab,  idk if you like xfce ... but would be a test :├Š
[19:30] <_TheArchitect_> HalfOfAKebab: Why not just use xubuntu?
[19:31] <lordcirth> _TheArchitect_, we're debugging here, this is faster.
[19:31] <HalfOfAKebab> _TheArchitect_: idk, i've got no experience with anything other than windows. i figured now is the time to get used to another OS too :p.
[19:34] <HalfOfAKebab> lordcirth, ioria: installed. restart now?
[19:34] <_TheArchitect_> lordcirth: Ahh right I see
[19:34] <lordcirth> HalfOfAKebab, just logout
[19:34] <HalfOfAKebab> alright
[19:34] <lordcirth> HalfOfAKebab, at the login screen you can choose xfce
[19:34] <ioria> HalfOfAKebab,  log out - login
[19:34] <HalfOfAKebab> if it works, i'll then install the drivers again. i'll let you know the results. brb
[19:35] <HalfOfAKebab> actually
[19:35] <ioria> HalfOfAKebab,  are not already installed ?
[19:35] <HalfOfAKebab> before i go
[19:35] <HalfOfAKebab> is there a way to remove mouse acceleration?
[19:35] <lordcirth> HalfOfAKebab, yeah under mouse settings
[19:35] <HalfOfAKebab> not for me :s
[19:36] <HalfOfAKebab> lordcirth i have speed, double click speed, and primary mouse button
[19:36] <skinux> Hey...I saw news that 16.04 would have Unity panel horizontal at the bottom, but the box I installed it to still has it on the left?
[19:36] <lordcirth> I'm booting an Ubuntu VM
[19:36] <lordcirth> skinux, I don't know where you saw that
[19:36] <golem> hi
[19:36] <lordcirth> golem, hi
[19:37] <golem> do you have minecraft?
[19:37] <bcunreal> skinux - It's not in the bottom by default, you have to install Unity Tweak Tool and select Bottom at "Launcher Settings"
[19:37] <lordcirth> skinux, found it.  16.04 added an *option* to move it ther
[19:37] <skinux> And, how do I tell software updater to use Xenial instead of 14.04?
[19:37] <skinux> Ahh...okay
[19:37] <bekks> skinux: the Unity panel is pon the left.
[19:37] <Liam`> skinux: read the full post and it'll explain how to move it to the bottom https://links.ml/PMoA
[19:38] <lordcirth> golem, who?  You mean does Minecraft run on Ubuntu?  Yes.
[19:39] <golem> no i mean do you have minecraft?
[19:40] <bekks> golem: Whats your actual support question?
[19:40] <golem> curiosity
[19:40] <skinux> How about getting Software Updater to use Xenial instead of Trusty?
[19:40] <k1l_> skinux: you mean how to upgrade to 16.04 form a 14.04?
[19:40] <bekks> skinux: By upgrading Trusty to Xenial
[19:41] <skinux> Yeah, but I thought I'm supposed to use Software Updater to do the upgrade?
[19:41] <lordcirth> !offtopic | golem
[19:41] <k1l_> skinux: make sure your release prompt os set to LTS. then run "update-manager" it will ask for the upgrade to yenial
[19:42] <golem> do you guys know a video editor?
[19:42] <skinux> There we go, it's doing it.
[19:43] <lordcirth> golem, https://kdenlive.org/
[19:43] <golem> thx
[19:43] <bcunreal> Hello, I'm trying to install Ubuntu in a laptop with AMD CPU and GPU but the live USB ends up stuck at the Ubuntu purple logo without progressing to the live session. The thing is it boots fine in another laptop I have with Intel CPU and NVIDIA GPU.
[19:43] <bcunreal> I've tried everything I could imagine - redownloading the ISO image, using different method to write to pendrive, using a different pendrive, I even tried the daily ISO of 16.10 but without success, and finally tried booting another distro (openSUSE), which it did boot just fine.
[19:43] <skinux> I'd love to learn to make a custom desktop environment. But there's a ton of code to study
[19:43] <bcunreal> I'm at a loss to understand what's the problem. Any ideas?
[19:44] <golem> change your background
[19:44] <Bashing-om> !nomodeset | bcunreal : As a thought, graphics driver.
[19:44] <lordcirth> bcunreal, does pressing Tab or ESC do anything?
[19:45] <ioria> bcunreal, have you tried removing quiet splash and add nomodeset ?
[19:45] <golem> i have a channel chek it out
[19:46] <bekks> !ot | golem
[19:47] <bcunreal> ioria No, I haven't tried nomodeset. I will try it now according with the instructions from this forum post
[19:48] <ioria> bcunreal, ok
[19:48] <bcunreal> lordcirth No it doesn't, only the arrows switch between the splash screen and the cli text
[19:48] <ioria> bcunreal, just highlight try ubuntu , press 'e' ot 'tab' and edit the kernel boot line
[19:48] <golem> i need a screen recorder
[19:49] <skinux> Interesting version name..Xenial...I was just looking at the definition
[19:49] <golem> video
[19:49] <Backwards> Has anyone here had any problems with /etc/apt/sources.list   uncommenting the Canonical's Partners? For apt-get purposes.
[19:49] <bcunreal> ioria So I just delete the 'quiet' and 'splash' and write 'nomodeset' in there?
[19:49] <skinux> Now...can I get someone to help me troubleshoot wireless on this other box? It is connected via Ethernet, but I need it to have wireless.
[19:50] <ioria> bcunreal, yes ... don't touch  ' -- ' at the end
[19:50] <bcunreal> ok brb
[19:50] <golem> somebody knows
[19:50] <lordcirth> golem, 'gtk-recordmydesktop"
[19:51] <golem> a good back grounds hd one
[19:51] <lordcirth> golem, desktop backgrounds?  The internet is your friend
[19:51] <golem> dont understand
[19:52] <lordcirth> golem, google it
[19:52] <golem> i searched and i dint find anything
[19:53] <k1l_> !wallpaper | golem
[19:53] <HalfOfAKebab> ioria, lordcirth - i fixed the problem. even though ubuntu said it disabled uefi safe boot or whatever, it actually didn't. i manually disabled it and it works now :)
[19:53] <Backwards> Skinux I run a headless wireless server. I use a USB antenna. Railink puts one out.
[19:53] <ioria> HalfOfAKebab,  secure boot , you mean ?
[19:53] <HalfOfAKebab> ioria yeah that one
[19:53] <lordcirth> HalfOfAKebab, "said it did"?  Nothing but editing BIOS yourself can disable Secure Boot, that's the point.  I suspect you misunderstood
[19:54] <skinux> I have a USB Wireless Adapter
[19:54] <lordcirth> HalfOfAKebab, but, glad it works!
[19:54] <HalfOfAKebab> :P
[19:54] <ioria> HalfOfAKebab,  great
[19:54] <k1l_> skinux: show the line from "lsusb" from that device
[19:54] <slojanko> Hello, can somoene please help me remove a uefi entry?
[19:54] <Backwards> Railink works without installing any Ubuntu drivers.
[19:55] <ioria> HalfOfAKebab,  are you on unity right now ?
[19:55] <skinux> NetGear Inc. WNA3100(v1) Wireless-N 300 [Broadcom BCM43231]
[19:55] <HalfOfAKebab> ioria i'm not sure. i installed xubuntu-desktop, but nothing looks like it's changed
[19:55] <SubCool> Hey, i was forward a disk recovery tool form here a long time ago. It was amazing. Bootable, mbr something i think. anyone know it?
[19:55] <OerHeks> Backwards, that depends not on the brand, but the chipset.
[19:55] <ioria> HalfOfAKebab,  press Win key
[19:55] <Backwards> True.
[19:56] <lordcirth> HalfOfAKebab, if you want to login with XFCE, you have to choose it at the login screne
[19:56] <lordcirth> screen*
[19:56] <Backwards> OerHeks in my case, the USB antenna which is about 1 inch by 2 1/2 inch works great.
[19:57] <ioria> HalfOfAKebab,  dash is opening ?
[19:57] <HalfOfAKebab> lordcirth i don't care about that :P i just wanted the drivers to work
[19:57] <HalfOfAKebab> ioria yes
[19:57] <Backwards> I have 3 of them running right now.
[19:57] <skinux> k1l_: NetGear Inc. WNA3100(v1) Wireless-N 300 [Broadcom BCM43231]
[19:58] <ahrc333ff> skinux: still working on that Broadcom chip, huh? lol. The only way I found was 'ndiswrapper' wrapping the windows driver. It's a huge PITA. You can get an excellent USB wireless card on Amazon for like $20.
[19:58] <k1l_> skinux: that is not the whole output from lsusb
[19:58] <ioria> HalfOfAKebab,  we are happy then ... can you run /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p
[19:58] <Backwards> Skinux have you looked in your system and looked for the GUI that sets up the USB wireless.
[19:59] <HalfOfAKebab> ioria yep, rx 480 graphics, everything says "yes"
[19:59] <ahrc333ff> Backwards: the problem is the broadcom chipset. There is no easy way to get the driver. I tried to help him a few days ago.
[19:59] <ioria> HalfOfAKebab, good job
[19:59] <skinux> k1l_: Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0846:9020
[19:59] <Backwards> Oh! I see.
[19:59] <ahrc333ff> skinux: when you run these commands, do the following: $ command | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:59] <ahrc333ff> You'll get a link, copy/paste the link here. We can see the full output.
[20:00] <skinux> Hold on
[20:00] <k1l_> skinux: that is the worst wifi hardware you can use on linux at all
[20:00] <ahrc333ff> skinux: 'nc' is just a tool that establishes a tcp connection to port 9999 on terbmin.com, you piped the output to it, and in return termbin.com responds with a link and closes the connection. nothing malicious.
[20:01] <lordcirth> netcat is great.  It literally just throws the stuff you give it to the ip/port you tell it.  Great for doing all sorts of weird stuff
[20:02] <ahrc333ff> lordcirth: agreed. need to transfer files between computers and all you have to work with is an ip? netcat and IO redirection to the rescue! woot
[20:02] <ahrc333ff> lol
[20:02] <skinux> Okay...I'm now chatting using the older machine.
[20:02] <lordcirth> ahrc333ff, well, generally you'll have scp, but yeah
[20:03] <Elhanan> considering upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04,  I currently use software raid.   I believe in the past the "md" software wasn't part of the base upgrade software... is that still the case?  Is there prep I should do or docs I could reference prior to my upgrade?
[20:03] <ahrc333ff> lordcirth: true, but that requires ssl and that's not always configured
[20:03] <varaindemian> what theme could be this? http://kb.openstudioproject.com/sites/kb.openstudioproject.com/files/images/themes/Yosembiance_small.png
[20:05] <ahrc333ff> skinux: best wireless card I can think of for a linux user https://www.amazon.com/Alfa-AWUS036NHA-High-Wireless-Adaptor/dp/B004YD7UBQ/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1469995304&sr=8-2&keywords=alfa+wireless+atheros
[20:05] <skinux> k1l_: Here is the entire lsusb output https://gist.github.com/skinuxgeek/db55d60deaecd57f257ff293bd041700
[20:05] <blindinglight> my windows 10 guest freezes after the first installation restart. what can be wrong?
[20:05] <skinux> This is the wireless hardware I have and what I have to work with.
[20:05] <lordcirth> Elhanan, when you go to do the upgrade, it will present you with a (long!) list of package changes.  Just look for mdadm to see if it will be upgraded.  I bet it will.
[20:05] <ahrc333ff> skinux: yes, and you've already been advised, yo need to get ndiswrapper to work. the issue is a driver issue. broadcom does not make a driver for this device.
[20:05] <Backwards> Skinux type this in your terminal:   lsusb
[20:06] <skinux> You can suggest amazon links all day long, it ain't gonna happen, not at this time.
[20:06] <lordcirth> varaindemian, what part?  The dock at the bottom?
[20:06] <skinux> Backwards: https://gist.github.com/skinuxgeek/db55d60deaecd57f257ff293bd041700
[20:06] <varaindemian> lordcirth: the unity part
[20:06] <skinux> Okay, I'll get NDISWrapper and look for a Windows driver
[20:06] <varaindemian> borders, close, minimise buttons
[20:06] <ahrc333ff> Backwards: he did. link above. it shows the USB device, but as we noted in past exploration, there is no driver loaded. you cannot get a driver except through an ndiswrapper from what I was able to determine.
[20:07] <Backwards> Skinux check this URL:   https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2221251
[20:08] <ahrc333ff> That was the same link I provided a few days ago :)
[20:08] <ahrc333ff> Noteable: I recall reading that some people had to attempt several drivers before it worked.
[20:08] <Backwards> LOL
[20:08] <lordcirth> varaindemian, the picture says it's  Yosembiance theme:  https://www.gnome-look.org/p/1013689/  Though that looks a bit different
[20:08] <ahrc333ff> Backwards: the issue is, this is all likely to break again on a future update.
[20:09] <lordcirth> varaindemian, I think the theme might have an orange setting which is used in the picture?
[20:09] <skinux> Is HexChat memory heavy? I already installed Ubuntu MATE which got the thing working lots faster, but it can still be a sluggish.
[20:09] <Backwards> Ahrc333ff thanks for the warning. hehe
[20:09] <Daisykiki> It doesn't ding me when you're done typing
[20:09] <slojanko> Can someone please help me completely remove Ubuntu entry in Bios? I've used subo efiboot mgr -b 4-B to remove it but after a restart it returns
[20:09] <varaindemian> lordcirth: yeah the buttons look different from yosembiance
[20:10] <lordcirth> skinux, if I'm reading correctly mine is using ~24MB
[20:11] <lordcirth> varaindemian, it could be that the picture is an old version of the theme
[20:11] <hijplos> with regard to ipv6 privacy extentions should I choose "enable (prefer temporary address)" or enable (prefer public address)"?
[20:11] <ahrc333ff> skinux: Effectively 0% of my memory (8GB) as well. Very low overhead.
[20:12] <Elhanan> lordcirth,  I see "mdadm" in the Upgrade section of my "Details" ... thanks!  (I've got my data backed up so I'll give it a try)
[20:12] <lordcirth> Oh oops that's 50MB.  Still, whatever
[20:12] <lordcirth> Elhanan, should be good then!
[20:12] <varaindemian> lordcirth: maybe.. but what I hate about these osx like themes is that the close/min/max buttons are not properly rendered
[20:12] <varaindemian> I can easly see the pixels
[20:13] <akik> slojanko: did you both modify -b and delete -B with the same command?
[20:13] <DelphiWorld> hi
[20:14] <DelphiWorld> is canonical faking people?
[20:14] <dax> what
[20:14] <lordcirth> DelphiWorld, in what way?
[20:14] <DelphiWorld> is dz.archive.ubuntu.com a fake mirror?
[20:14] <slojanko> akik: I dont know, I used it like this sudo efibootmgr -b 4 -B
[20:14] <dax> DelphiWorld: what's the actual problem that you're having?
[20:14] <lordcirth> DelphiWorld, why would you think it was?
[20:14] <DelphiWorld> lordcirth: ping dz.archive.ubuntu.com
[20:14] <akik> slojanko: try to only delete it
[20:15] <OerHeks> DelphiWorld, it is known on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[20:15] <DelphiWorld> dax, not a problem but strange situation
[20:15] <lordcirth> DelphiWorld, 91ms stable.  why?
[20:15] <k1l_> skinux: honestly: i would get a better working wifi device. this is really horrible. you need to use ndiswrapper which is really a pain: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2264020&highlight=wna3100
[20:15] <DelphiWorld> but it's pointing to GB
[20:15] <DelphiWorld> so it's not a local mirror
[20:15] <lordcirth> DelphiWorld, so it's a CNAME.  big deal.
[20:15] <DelphiWorld> lordcirth: i'll love to know more ?
[20:16] <dax> DelphiWorld: the country code mirror aliases point to whichever mirror(s) are relatively fast and stable for the country. Since not all countries have stable mirrors, sometimes they point to Canonical mirrors that tend to be in GB/US/etc.
[20:16] <lordcirth> DelphiWorld, but it's the correct mirror to use if you're in dz = (algeria?)
[20:16] <dax> they're not claiming that they have mirrors in every country, so they're not really faking anything
[20:16] <DelphiWorld> dax & lordcirth, i see other mirrors who's faster thant this one
[20:16] <lordcirth> DelphiWorld, then switch to those.
[20:16] <DelphiWorld> but now i think i know why ubuntu server choused it
[20:17] <DelphiWorld> cause maybe my ISP have a direct link to london
[20:17] <dax> DelphiWorld: long-term stability tends to be a concern, as well
[20:17] <DelphiWorld> dax, i am not suspecting anything, but just love to know
[20:17] <lordcirth> If my package download speed had anything to do with the mirror, I would be a happy mad
[20:17] <lordcirth> man*
[20:18] <DelphiWorld> lordcirth: latency mather a lot
[20:18] <skinux> k1l_: Unless you would like to buy it for me, it's not going to happen right now and maybe not anytime soon.
[20:19] <DelphiWorld> guys for explaining
[20:19] <skinux> This one says NetGear on it, technicaly  it's a Broadcom...NetGear doesn't sell garbage.
[20:20] <lordcirth> DelphiWorld, you're welcome :)  Though you should try to sound less accusatory next time :P
[20:20] <DelphiWorld> broadcom = deadcom
[20:20] <k1l_> skinux: the used chip is a broadcom. see the link i posted you
[20:20] <akik> slojanko: try "sudo efibootmgr -b 0004 -B 0004" if number 4 was ubuntu
[20:20] <OerHeks> netgear is a brand, BCM the chipset, don't mix those
[20:20] <DelphiWorld> hahaha lordcirth
[20:23] <Bashing-om> skinux: Have you seen the docs to get the BCM proprietary driver installed ?
[20:23] <slojanko> akik: its gone if I try sudo efibootmgr again but after restart it appears again in boot menu
[20:23] <Bashing-om> !bcm | skinux
[20:27] <stanton> ctjctj: bekks, i believe it's fixed now
[20:33] <Backwards> Skinux I use a wifi USB antenna. My wifi antenna looks like this: http://www.china-dhgate.com/mini-ralink-pc-wifi-adapter-300m-usb-wifi-antenna-wireless-computer-network-card-80211ngb-lan-antenna-whole-p-3613.html    <------< It runs on Windows with drivers and Ubuntu not having to install drivers.
[20:36] <stanton> ctjctj: bekks: it was the cable i was using. and the port kind both. the cable got loose i stopped the memtest after pass 4 due to the fact i was annoyed with the new stick it's slower than the old sticks. and when i opened the case to remove it i noticed the cable wasn't fully in the board XD that'd def cause issues with hdd not working right. haha thanks guys.
[20:37] <Ussat> can someone point me to some good docs on setting up a kerberos client to auth against AD ? I have done this in RHEL with no issues, (authconfig -tui in rhel) but I dont find a similar command in Ubuntu. I have instaled the correct packages, and configured my krb5.conf file , I just can not find out how to tell the logins to use kerberos instead of local passwords
[20:40] <neomex> why doesn't something.sh launch terminal when doubleclicked?
[20:40]  * rtm 
[20:41] <neomex> also just typing it in terminal cant launch it
[20:41] <dax> neomex: does it have the execute bit set? (chmod +x file.sh)
[20:42] <docmur> i have a network 10.0.3.0 that I use for my LXC containers.  My default network is 10.0.0.1, how do I route 10.0.3.0/24 over 10.0.0.1, I tried ip route add 10.0.3.0/24 via 10.0.0.1, but I get RTNETLINK answers: File exists.  The problem is that right now the LXC Containers can't reach the interne
[20:43] <neomex> dax, nop, how do i do it and what does chmod do?
[20:43] <HadesWatch3r> I have 16.04.1 LTS, when copying a large file from a USB it will cause my machine to slow to a crawl and then reboot, it is a Core i7 6700K with 32GB Ram and 512 SSD.... why is this happening?
[20:44] <dax> neomex: chmod changes the permissions modes of a file, including the execution permission mode
[20:44] <lordcirth> HadesWatch3r, it reboots?  Does it do a shutdown process or just reboot instantly?
[20:44] <dax> neomex: your file manager may have a Permissions tab in the file properties too, i've never used them for that so idk
[20:44] <HadesWatch3r> Instant reboot, no message in log that I can tell why?
[20:44] <HadesWatch3r> syslog that is..
[20:45] <neomex> dax, it keeps opening in gedit, i did the chmod thing on it
[20:45] <neomex> gedit is set as default application to run it, and it has allow executing as program toggled on
[20:46] <Bashing-om> HadesWatch3r: Is the USB drive with FAT file system ? such that there is that 4Gigs file size limitation .. maybe ??
[20:47] <HadesWatch3r> no sir.
[20:47] <HadesWatch3r> They are ext4 with LUKS encryption.
[20:47] <lordcirth> HadesWatch3r, how large is this "large file"?
[20:48] <lordcirth> HadesWatch3r, also, watch 'top' or 'htop' while the copy runs and see what is going on
[20:48] <HadesWatch3r> 39.1 GB
[20:48] <StephenS> I need a way to run mariadb and mysql server, both on ubuntu, how can I accomplish this?
[20:48] <lordcirth> StephenS, make an LXC container?
[20:48] <lordcirth> For each, that is
[20:49] <StephenS> you mean something like docker does?
[20:49] <Backwards> Ahrc333ff I bought my wireless antennas from this link. The prices are great: http://www.aliexpress.com/w/wholesale-wifi-antenna.html    They are surplus computer supplies.
[20:49] <lordcirth> StephenS, docker is similar, yes
[20:49] <ppf> anyone versed with cups-pdf?
[20:49] <herbeth> hi guzy
[20:49] <StephenS> no way to run this on my instance, without isolated instance?
[20:50] <ppf> resulting documents carry no embedded text
[20:50] <HadesWatch3r> lordcirth ok, thanks.
[20:50] <ppf> is there a way to fix that?
[20:50] <HadesWatch3r> Bashing-om, thank you.
[20:50] <lordcirth> StephenS, there might be, but IMHO LXC is cleaner
[20:51] <ahrc333ff> Backwards: awesome, thx for the link!
[20:51] <Backwards> Your welcome.
[20:51] <Islah1> Hi all, does anyone here have experience with installing wifi drivers on lubuntu? (It's on a notebook so it has no ethernet port so i have to do it manually)
[20:52] <_TheArchitect_> StephenS: No. mariaDB is a fork of mysql. Can't be run on the same instance. Could use virtualbox and install arch for the mariaDB and have ubuntu as the host OS with mysql running.
[20:53] <_TheArchitect_> Islah1 Loads of horrible eperience. Had to compile and install reltek drivers before.
[20:53] <lordcirth> VMs work but containers are lighter.
[20:53] <Backwards> A lot of people don't know that a wireless antenna is designed for most USB applications.
[20:53] <ahrc333ff> Islah1: type the following: lsusb
[20:53] <_TheArchitect_> lsusb
[20:53] <Islah1> got it ahrc333ff
[20:54] <ahrc333ff> Ishlah1: In your computer, type lsusb and if you don't see your card there, then try lspci
[20:54] <ahrc333ff> Ishlah1: these commands go into the terminal :)
[20:54] <Islah1> BCM43142A0 Bluetooth Device
[20:55] <ahrc333ff> Islah1: BCM43142A0 is a broadcom device. They're usually the worst o_0 They offer very little to no driver support.
[20:55] <Islah1> yeah :(
[20:55] <Islah1> All other linux distros I have used worked right away
[20:55] <ahrc333ff> Islah1: well, that's good news then.
[20:56] <ahrc333ff> Islah1: in fact, if you have one of the other distros that you can boot to (live usb?) you can easily determine which driver it uses
[20:56] <tgm4883> !broadcom
[20:56] <k1l_> Islah1: try this: http://askubuntu.com/a/632348/31260
[20:57] <Islah1> will try that k1l_
[20:57] <Backwards> Ahrc333ff, I don't understand that Ksinux does'nt go directly to the Manufacturer.
[20:58] <Backwards> Skinux rather.
[20:59] <Backwards> Skinux should give that wireless a decent burrial.
[20:59] <ahrc333ff> Backwards: oh, haha. yeah. I agree
[20:59] <ahrc333ff> Backwards: makes it seem as if money is an issue though o_0
[20:59] <Backwards> I understand.
[20:59] <Backwards> I have been there but that is how you learn.
[21:00] <ahrc333ff> Backwards: agree
[21:00] <Backwards> My friend said years ago: "The best way to learn is to get mad at yourself."
[21:02] <Backwards> Most Manufacturers won't give  you the time of day with old equipment not supported.
[21:03] <Spec-Chum> Probably too generic a question but how would I remove a tab that precedes every line when I do  'git status | grep "bsnes" >> .gitingore
[21:03] <Spec-Chum> '  ?
[21:04] <Spec-Chum> actually, it's spaces not a tab, sorry
[21:04] <bekks> Spec-Chum: Using sed -i
[21:08] <KALASH> ubuntu is for niggers. use debian
[21:08] <dax> !botsnack | Drone`
[21:09] <Spec-Chum> bekks, dur, I've been using linus for years, how the hell did I not think of that haha.  Sorry
[21:09] <Spec-Chum> derp on my part
[21:12] <Backwards> Do the bots on this channel use Atheme or Anope? Or rely on freenode's chanserv?
[21:12] <uhasdf> how do I stop pidgin from autostarting? It's not in the Session and Startup>Application Autostart list but it pops up every time I reboot. I can't find a setting in Pidgin to stop this either
[21:14] <sponix> uhasdf: After you use Pidgin one time you are Stuck with it for LIFE
[21:14] <uhasdf> like herpes then
[21:14] <sponix> The Gift that Keeps on Giving
[21:14] <uhasdf> but seriously...shouldn't there be a way to disable autostart?
[21:16] <sponix> If it was annoying me I'd try a bit of "Google FU" on the topic and if that didn't turn out well I'd rename the executable to show it who was BOSS
[21:17] <neomex> how can i access virtualbox ubuntu files from host (windows) ?
[21:17] <neomex> if its the wrong place, where should i ask this?
[21:17] <dax> set up a shared directory in the VM settings, #vbox for more help with that
[21:17] <dax> should work fine in Ubuntu if vbox tools are installed
[21:18] <neomex> thanks again
[21:19] <sponix> uhasdf: --> http://askubuntu.com/questions/288352/how-to-stop-pidgin-to-run-at-ubuntu-start-up
[21:19] <uhasdf> yeah I saw that....didnt work for me
[21:20] <hidden> can anyone help me urgently im freaking out
[21:20] <uhasdf> that command results in nothing but the user prompt again
[21:20] <lordcirth> !ask | hidden
[21:20] <hidden> my internet connection is being routed through a vpn provider,
[21:20] <hidden> and i didn't do this
[21:20] <hidden> it's ubuntu
[21:20] <reisio> hidden: what makes you think that
[21:20] <hidden> says my ip is 185.65.134.78
[21:21] <hidden> searched, it's apparently mullvad
[21:21] <hidden> should i disconnect and format? i need to backup stuff
[21:21] <Backwards> Uhasdf reading this might be interesting: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1341801
[21:21] <hidden> it's damn annoying
[21:21] <hidden> i'm not even paying for this vpn
[21:22] <lordcirth> hidden, do you have any idea how long?  Did anyone use your computer who might have done this and forgot to turn it off?
[21:22] <hidden> 185.65.134.78
[21:22] <reisio> hidden: who's your ISP?
[21:22] <hidden> nope, no one used it
[21:22] <hidden> virgin media
[21:22] <k1l_> hidden: what shows you "wget http://ipinfo.io/ip -qO -" in terminal?
[21:22] <hidden> is someone attacking me right now?
[21:23] <hidden> wget http://ipinfo.io/ip -qO -
[21:23] <Backwards> Also try this: http://blog.chapagain.com.np/xubuntu-how-to-stop-applications-launching-on-startup-automatically/
[21:23] <hidden> SAME ip
[21:23] <reisio> hidden: boot up a live ISO
[21:23] <hidden> 185.65.134.78
[21:23] <uhasdf> Backwards: thanks...saw that as well. Pidgin isn't in any autostart list or directory...yet it autostarts anyway
[21:23] <k1l_> hidden: so you set up a system proxy?
[21:23] <reisio> hidden: if you're still using a VPN from that, then you can relax somewhat, as it'll be part of your ISP's setup, or your local network/router's
[21:23] <hidden> no
[21:23] <k1l_> hidden: or use tor or such?
[21:23] <hidden> yes i used tor, but this is google chrome
[21:24] <hidden> tor isn't runnning i guess
[21:24] <sponix> uhasdf: Did you try the Terminal portion listed there ?
[21:24] <k1l_> hidden: so you set tor to be used by the system?
[21:24] <hidden> my isp won't do this
[21:24] <uhasdf> sponix: yes....the command doesnt do anything
[21:24] <uhasdf> just returns me to the user prompt
[21:24] <hidden> nope
[21:24] <ikonia> hidden: that you know of
[21:24] <reisio> and I mentioned more than the ISP
[21:24] <uhasdf> nothing I have found in 5 pages of google results has worked....
[21:24] <hidden> doing sudo apt-get autoremove tor
[21:24] <k1l_> hidden: we cant know what you set up or changed
[21:24] <hidden> but i doubt tor would change my computer ip
[21:24] <ikonia> hidden: of course it would
[21:25] <ikonia> hidden: thats the whole point, you're proxying out of it
[21:25] <uhasdf> it seems a lot of people have the same issue but i dont see any solution
[21:25] <hidden> yes but i need to configure my network settings
[21:25] <reisio> anyway, if you boot up a live OS, you'll know whether it's unique to your installed system
[21:25] <ikonia> hidden: no you don't
[21:25] <hidden> to poitn to tor's socks
[21:25] <hidden> i surely do
[21:25] <lordcirth> hidden, The fastest way to be totally sure is to boot a LiveUSB.  Go do that.
[21:25] <tgm4883> lordcirth: +1
[21:25] <hidden> i want to check the current config
[21:26] <uhasdf> I have no autostart or sessions settings that should cause it...no .cache or .config files for pidgin
[21:26] <hidden> for network settings, where can i find relevant info
[21:26] <ikonia> hidden: verify it with a livecd first
[21:26] <lordcirth> hidden, http://puppylinux.com/
[21:26] <lordcirth> If you don't have an iso lying around
[21:27] <Backwards> Uhasdf perhaps there is another program that is opening up the program automatically.
[21:27] <hidden> my router is OK, i checked on another pc
[21:27] <ikonia> not what was asked
[21:27] <Islah1> ok i think i may have found a solution!
[21:27] <ikonia> hidden: check it with a livecd and confirm
[21:27] <uhasdf> Backwards: I would have no idea how to determine that...any ideas?
[21:27] <hidden> check what?
[21:27] <ikonia> hidden: if the routing still happens
[21:27] <hidden> livecd is a fresh install, what sthe difference
[21:27] <ikonia> hidden: a livecd won't have been modified by anything
[21:27] <hidden> i connected a diff device on same network and it has my usual ip
[21:27] <sponix> uhasdf: Man I hope that Pidgin doesn't come up the next time I boot !
[21:27] <hidden> so it's definitely this os that has a misconf
[21:28] <ikonia> hidden: https://check.torproject.org/cgi-bin/TorBulkExitList.py?ip=82.161.230.90
[21:28] <k1l_> hidden: did you use torsocks?
[21:28] <ikonia> hidden: it's a tor exit node
[21:28] <uhasdf> sponix: I am putting the pidgin evil on you
[21:28] <Backwards> Maybe start with dmesg.
[21:28] <hidden> https://check.torproject.org/cgi-bin/TorBulkExitList.py?ip=185.65.134.78
[21:29] <hidden> i don't think so, my ip was fine till yesterday
[21:29] <hidden> tor has been running on my computer as usual
[21:29] <ikonia> hidden: check it on a lviecd
[21:29] <ikonia> livecd
[21:29] <sponix> uhasdf: Well, I'm not sure why I hang out here.. But I run Linux Mint anyway.. So with a little luck I wont fall victim to your Evil Plot
[21:29] <hidden> but i usually configure apps to do this
[21:29] <ikonia> and it's showing up in old tor lists
[21:29] <ikonia> so it certainly looks like a tor node
[21:30] <hidden> mannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
[21:30] <hidden> i'm pissed
[21:30] <hidden> ok
[21:30] <hidden> formatting
[21:30] <hidden> disconnecting
[21:30] <hidden> if i can't repair
[21:30] <reisio> haven't you been using tor, though?
[21:30] <sponix> uhasdf: What Version and Flavor of Ubuntu are you running ?
[21:30] <hidden> yes i used tor, but through firefox
[21:30] <ikonia> hidden: ok - bye then, if you don't want help - no point discussing it
[21:30] <ikonia> go format
[21:30] <ikonia> bye
[21:30] <uhasdf> xubuntu 16.04
[21:30] <hidden> this is forwarding ALL MY CONNECTIONS
[21:30] <reisio> it's true the only way you can be sure all the time that your system hasn't been compromised, though, is to have been tracking changes to it from installation time (AIDE, etc.)
[21:31] <ikonia> hidden: yes, we know - but you'r enot willing to work with us to verify
[21:31] <hidden> you are telling me to boot from live usb, ikonia
[21:31] <ikonia> so off you go, go and format
[21:31] <Backwards> Uhasdf, you can look at    top   or Netstat to see what is talking in the background.
[21:31] <k1l_> hidden: because you set something to use it that way. ubuntu doesnt do that on its own
[21:31] <uhasdf> hidden:  calm down dude...you are acting weird
[21:31] <lordcirth> reisio, TIL about AIDE.  Thanks!
[21:31] <hidden> dude i'm not sure if someone has malware on my laptop right now
[21:31] <reisio> lordcirth: but I wasn't the one who told you :p
[21:31] <uhasdf> Backwards: how do I do that? Just type "netstat"?
[21:31] <ikonia> yes we know
[21:31] <ikonia> thats why we are advising you on how to verify it
[21:31] <ikonia> but you keep ignoring it
[21:31] <hidden> by what using livecd?
[21:31] <ikonia> so either accept help - or stop asking
[21:31] <Backwards> Something like netstat tuanlp
[21:32] <ikonia> using a livecd will verify things
[21:32] <ikonia> hence why you're being asked to do it
[21:32] <hidden> why it's just a fresh os
[21:32] <ikonia> hidden: - ok, then lets take the compromised approach
[21:32] <lordcirth> hidden, yeah, that's the point.  A fresh OS, without malware.
[21:32] <ikonia> hidden: your machine has been compromised, it cannot be trusted, take it off the network and format your machine
[21:32] <ikonia> hidden: that is the only way to be sure of fixing a compromised machine
[21:32] <reisio> well, a different OS
[21:32] <hidden> that's what i'ma do, and this is only machine i can use to communicate on irc hence why i don't want to turn off yet
[21:32] <hidden> so cool
[21:32] <reisio> it will, again, tell you whether the issue is unique to your install
[21:33] <ikonia> hidden: you can communicate from a livecd
[21:33] <ikonia> hidden: but as you don't want this, please follow the compromised machine approach
[21:33] <ikonia> disconnect your machine and format straight away
[21:33]  * hidden looks for a usb
[21:33] <ikonia> as your tools could be compromised and not trusted
[21:33] <hidden> ok thanks, i'l be back sometime
[21:33] <ikonia> we don't need to know how it works out
[21:34] <ikonia> just format your machine and carry on using it when it works again
[21:34] <hidden> any ideas on how i could save a snapshot of this drive
[21:34] <ikonia> no
[21:34] <ikonia> it's compromised
[21:34] <Backwards> https://help.ubuntu.com/16.04/ubuntu-help/startup-applications.html
[21:34] <ikonia> your tools cannot be trusted
[21:34] <zayd> hi
[21:34] <tgm4883> ikonia: that's not really helpful
[21:34] <ikonia> tgm4883: it is - there where other options, he doesn't want to do them, so we have to use compromised as a starting point
[21:34] <zayd> i have a problem with my wireless connection
[21:35] <ewu28> Hi
[21:35] <sponix> uhasdf: Do you have "System / Preferences / Sessions" ?
[21:35] <hidden> ikonia if you want to be helpful just tell me how i can check the network config and find out proxy settinggs
[21:35] <uhasdf> yep....not there.
[21:35] <ikonia> hidden: it's pointless until we know the state of your system
[21:35] <ikonia> hence checking with a livecd
[21:35] <uhasdf> pidgiin doesnt show up in any config files or settings that the common results blame for this
[21:35] <hidden> anyone else?
[21:35] <ikonia> as if you ARE compromised, your tools can't be trusted
[21:36] <tgm4883> ikonia: what's a livecd going to tell him that another system wouldn't?
[21:36] <ikonia> so we need to know for the certain the state of your machine, and a livecd is the best and quickest wa to do this
[21:36] <ikonia> tgm4883: what other system
[21:36] <hidden> thnk you tgm4883
[21:36] <zayd> when i use the ipconfig command i can't find the "wlan0" but i get "wlp2s0" and i can't connect to my network
[21:36] <ikonia> tgm4883: it will tell a lot
[21:36] <ikonia> eg: mac based routing on the router
[21:36] <tgm4883> ikonia: he already said another system on the same network doesn't have this issue
[21:36] <ikonia> so ?
[21:36] <hidden> ^
[21:36] <ikonia> there are more than one config and compromise on a network
[21:37] <k1l_> hidden: it would help a lot if you could tell what your exact system is and what you changed.
[21:37] <hidden> i just need to find out if it's a simple network configuration
[21:37] <ikonia> could be as simple as a firewall rule on the router
[21:37] <ikonia> hidden: what is your default route
[21:37] <hidden> i can't see any openvpn loaded on network manager
[21:37] <hidden> or installed
[21:37] <zayd> someone to help, please!!!
[21:37] <Xpistos> Hey all. I am trying to install ubuntu 16.04 on my asus laptop but it says I don't not have any free space. there is a 1TB drive in the system but that says I don't have permissions. Not sure what to do here and could use some help
[21:37] <ikonia> openvpn load ??
[21:37] <ikonia> what
[21:37] <k1l_> hidden: you claim its a fresh os and ubuntu changed something. but that cleary is not the case. since you already said you used tor and such
[21:38] <ikonia> the ip is showing up in the tor network list
[21:38] <hidden> it's not a fresh install the network settings changed all of a sudden and i can't find out why
[21:38] <hidden> i don't have any openvpn profiles installed
[21:38] <ikonia> hidden: thats why we want to verify with a livecd
[21:38] <ikonia> tor is not an openvpn
[21:38] <tgm4883> ikonia: if you, as you are alluding to, that it's possible that it's a issue with mac based routing on the FW (or other issue with the router) then reformating isn't going to help
[21:38] <ikonia> so that has nothing to do with it
[21:38] <k1l_> hidden: what exact ubuntu system is it?
[21:38] <hidden> 16.04
[21:38] <ikonia> tgm4883: no, it's not, but as he won't verify anything
[21:38] <irregular> hi guys my internet has been abnormally slow I look at the browser console network tab and DNS lookup takes 8 seconds for any site I visit
[21:38] <ikonia> a 2 minute boot from a live media will prove the basics quickly
[21:38] <tgm4883> ikonia: well yes, he should listen to instructions and follow them
[21:39] <Backwards> Uhasdf try this link:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/288352/how-to-stop-pidgin-to-run-at-ubuntu-start-up
[21:39] <k1l_> hidden: "dpkg -l | grep -i tor | nc termbin.com 9999" show the url here
[21:39] <ikonia> tgm4883: right - which he's not doing, so I have no choice but to assume compromise as I can't verify anything
[21:39] <ikonia> tgm4883: and if it is compromised, it can't be trusted format
[21:39] <uhasdf> Backwards: alraedy did
[21:39] <ikonia> it's pointless to come in here asking for help then refuse to do the steps to resolve the problem
[21:39] <uhasdf> didnt work...the command doesnt work
[21:39] <ikonia> so either do it - or stop asking
[21:39] <hidden> http://termbin.com/0kh6
[21:39] <tgm4883> hidden: you really need to follow instructions here
[21:40] <hidden> k1l_, "dpkg -l | grep -i tor | nc termbin.com 9999
[21:40] <uhasdf> seems pidgin and I are in it for life
[21:40] <hidden> http://termbin.com/0kh6
[21:40] <Islah1> ugh this is so frustrating
[21:40] <Backwards> Have you  apt-get upgrade and update lately?
[21:41] <hidden> i had some update notification show up a few times for ubuntu
[21:41] <hidden> system update
[21:41] <ikonia> it's nothing to do with updates
[21:41] <zayd> hi there please someone to help me
[21:41] <ikonia> its' very likley a tor config
[21:41] <ikonia> the quicker you just verify this the better you'll be
[21:41] <ikonia> the ip you quote is listed in tor network nodes
[21:41] <ikonia> the odds are high it's just a bad tor config / process thats not died / reset
[21:42] <hidden> i did sudo apt-get remove tor
[21:42] <hidden> autoremove
[21:42] <hidden> should i do purge too
[21:42] <hidden> and reboot
[21:42] <ikonia> that won't change it if it's running in ram
[21:42] <hidden> man i have a lot of work to backup
[21:42] <ikonia> why are you backing up things ?
[21:42] <hidden> ok i'l disconnect and just backup my stuff
[21:42] <k1l_> hidden: did you reboot since?
[21:42] <ikonia> we just want to verify your network routes
[21:43] <hidden> no
[21:43] <hidden> need to download the ubuntu liveusb through tor :/
[21:43] <Xpistos> OSError: [Errno 28] No space left on device
[21:43] <zayd> i have a problem please!!!!!!!
[21:43] <ikonia> zayd: be patient
[21:43] <ewu28> is your machine even picking up that you have wifi ?
[21:44] <ikonia> zayd: you'll end up ignored
[21:44] <Xpistos> There is 1tb on the drive
[21:44] <zayd> sorry
[21:44] <Xpistos> and I am booting from a USB
[21:44] <Islah1> Hi again, when trying to use this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx (for STA, no internet access) when trying to install dkms I get a dependency error is not satifiable: gcc
[21:44] <uhasdf> thanks for the attempts guys...if anyone needs to chat over pidgin I will be on it for the rest of my life so hit me up ;)
[21:44] <ikonia> hidden: just reboot your host
[21:44] <k1l_> Xpistos: can you show the output of "df -h | nc termbin.com 9999"?
[21:44] <ikonia> hidden: see if the problem goes away now that you've removed tor
[21:44] <bekks> Xpistos: Give us the URL of "df -h | nc termbin.com 9999" please :)
[21:44] <hidden> ok i'll reboot brb
[21:45] <tgm4883> hidden: ikonia I'm not super familiar with tor, but shouldn't we be able to see if it's being used?
[21:45] <motaka2> hello when I install sudo apt-get install php5-curl  it says package not found on ubuntu 14.04, what should I do?
[21:45] <ikonia> tgm4883: depends, there are 10 ways to use it
[21:45] <ewu28> ? what's the problem
[21:45] <hidden> notsur
[21:45] <hidden> brb
[21:45] <ikonia> and looking at his pakage list, he's got 2 - 3 options plus an advanced connection manager on it
[21:45] <Xpistos> bekks: http://termbin.com/bevc
[21:45] <ewu28> !!!!! sounds serious
[21:46] <notadeveloper> xD
[21:46] <chili555> Islah1: Are you trying to compile the package from source? Whay? That's the (very) hard way.
[21:46] <k1l_> Xpistos: is this a live system?
[21:46] <tgm4883> ikonia: without it being installed, wouldn't it be enough to check if it's currently running and the system proxy?
[21:46] <bekks> Xpistos: you are running a livecd, are you?
[21:46] <Xpistos> bekks: I am on a live usb to install yes
[21:46] <ptah> where do i get a free irc shell?
[21:46] <Islah1> Chilli555 im all out of options trying to get this broadcom driver installed
[21:46] <OerHeks> motaka2, try php7.0-curl
[21:46] <bekks> Xpistos: you cannot install things on a livecd. :)
[21:46] <ikonia> tgm4883: no, as it can also be a daemon that the default route goes through, there are various ways to configure it
[21:46] <OerHeks> !info php7.0-curl
[21:46] <tgm4883> ikonia: daemons run to do they not?
[21:47] <ikonia> tgm4883: hence the quick test - it's likley it's still there / running somehow due to the ip being in the exit node lists
[21:47] <ikonia> tgm4883: they do indeed
[21:47] <rajivmars> which java software i have to install to run java based programs in ubuntu 16.04?
[21:47] <ikonia> tgm4883: or they pass through a library
[21:47] <chili555> Islah1: Which device is it? What is its pci.id? 14e4:????
[21:47] <Xpistos> bekks: i am not trying to install it to a cd or a usb, I am trying to install it to the hard drive it isn't getting to the point where I can say where install
[21:47] <ikonia> depending on how you have it setup,
[21:47] <OerHeks> motaka2, oops sorry, you said 14.04 my bad
[21:47] <ptah> where do i get a free irc shell?
[21:47] <Xpistos> I have never seen this before.
[21:47] <Islah1> sec
[21:47] <motaka2> OerHeks: so what should I do ?
[21:47] <bekks> Xpistos: So how are you trying to do that, in particular?
[21:47] <k1l_> Xpistos: the usb is full. did you run a upgrade on that live system?
[21:48] <OerHeks> !info php5-curl  trusty
[21:48] <Xpistos> I am double clicking the install ubuntu 16.04 LTS icon on the desktop and it sayd there was 0 space
[21:48] <OerHeks> should be there, motaka2
[21:48] <motaka2> OerHeks: Then why mine is not ?
[21:48] <Xpistos> k1l_: no upgrade
[21:48] <Islah1> Broadcom BCM43142 @ chili555
[21:48] <Xpistos> I have 16 gb usb and it said the same thing
[21:49] <OerHeks> motaka2, dunno, maybe you added a ppa for php ???
[21:49] <chili555> Islah1: 14e4:????
[21:49] <zayd> ikonia: when i use the ifconfig command i can't find the "wlan0" but i get "wlp2s0" and i can't connect to my network
[21:49] <motaka2> OerHeks: Yes I did , i think
[21:49] <ikonia> zayd: I'm not helping you - as you keep just spamming the channel, as I said, be patient, not ask me directly
[21:49] <Xpistos> bekks: I tried to do with with a live cd as well. same thing happened
[21:49] <ptah> hello??
[21:49] <ptah> where do i get a free irc shell?
[21:49] <ikonia> ptah: not here
[21:49] <Backwards> Uhasdf the only resort I can think of right now is this link: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[21:49] <ikonia> ptah: check the web
[21:50] <ptah> ok
[21:50] <k1l_> ptah: this is only ubuntu support. for other talk join #chat
[21:50] <Xpistos> I have install ubuntu and mint a bunch of times and have never seen this
[21:51] <Islah1> 14e4:4329 @chili555
[21:51] <hidden> removed tor its fixed... for now i guess
[21:51] <Islah1> sorry nvm
[21:51] <Islah1> its 14e4:4365 @ chili555
[21:51] <ikonia> hidden: for now ?
[21:51] <k1l_> Xpistos: restart the system. dont run the update on the live system. just install ubuntu
[21:51] <hidden> still couscous
[21:52] <chili555> Islah1: bcmwl-kernel-source is correct for this device. Did you install it? Is the module loaded? lsmod | grep wl
[21:52] <ikonia> ?
[21:52] <hidden> i'm going to backup work and format
[21:52] <ikonia> why ?
[21:52] <hidden> loads of third party applications installed
[21:52] <hidden> i don't trust this system anymore
[21:52] <ikonia> so ?
[21:52] <hidden> can be anything running
[21:52] <ikonia> why not ?
[21:52] <hidden> what do you mean?
[21:52] <ikonia> what reason do you have to not trust the system
[21:53] <ikonia> actually, I don't care, you won't listen anyway
[21:53] <ikonia> just do what you want
[21:53] <hidden> you have loads of applications installed, risks are higher for some to be malicious
[21:53] <hidden> why are you so arrogant lol
[21:53] <ikonia> hidden: whatever,
[21:53] <ikonia> hidden: because you don't listen
[21:53] <ikonia> it's pointless to try to discuss or help
[21:53] <ikonia> so just carry on with what you want
[21:53] <hidden> ikonia just because you provide help, which i appreciate doesn't mean you know best
[21:53] <tgm4883> couscous?
[21:53] <tgm4883> isn't that food
[21:53] <hidden> auto correct
[21:53] <ikonia> hidden: apply logic,
[21:53] <OerHeks> tgm4883, indeed
[21:53] <hidden> logic: do you have any background in network security
[21:53] <ikonia> hidden: you routed out of a tor node, you removed tor, it stopped routing out of a tor node
[21:54] <ikonia> what's not to trust
[21:54] <Islah1> for 14e4:4365 I looked at it said bcmwl was the correct one o.O @ chili555
[21:54] <hidden> i installed many applications some might have been malware
[21:54] <hidden> even though trusted sources
[21:54] <ikonia> and if you ARE infected, backing up possible infected files and restoring them is bad
[21:54] <pennTeller> Hi guys, I heard that Systemd is now logging using binary, is this true??
[21:54] <hidden> infected files: personal work
[21:55] <ikonia> hidden: you have no idea what's infected what's not
[21:55] <chili555> Islah1: Correct. So did you install it? sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source
[21:55] <ikonia> if you can't trust your system and may have malware, it could be in your personal files
[21:55] <hidden> do you have anti virus lel
[21:55] <ikonia> hidden: antivirus is worthless
[21:55] <Islah1> No, I have no internet connection (it is a notebook with no ethernet port)
[21:55] <k1l_> pennTeller: yes. but iirc ubuntu still got classic logfiles
[21:55] <hidden> ok i get the message, burning laptop
[21:55] <Islah1> @ chili555
[21:55] <ikonia> hidden: no, not at all
[21:55] <ikonia> hidden: this is what I mean about you not listening
[21:56] <ikonia> your problem was "my machine is routing out of a tor node"
[21:56] <ikonia> you removed tor - and it stopped
[21:56] <ikonia> what reason do you have to not trust it ?
[21:56] <Backwards> Ikonia how true. Backing up a virus or infection is just asking for trouble. The time to backup a system is before installing anything new so you can revert back to what works.
[21:56] <hidden> yes, and you think it might have been a tor misconfig
[21:56] <pennTeller> k1l_: do you know the reasoning behind that decision? seems a bit suspicious to me
[21:56] <ikonia> hidden: I'm pretty certain it was
[21:56] <hidden> it could have been, maybe its not just that
[21:56] <curlyears> what command do I use at the CLI prompt to view the name and ID of my processor, or to view the temmps and speeds the fan(s) are running at?
[21:56] <Xpistos_> k1l_: I didn't update the live usb. I booted into it and double clicked install ubuntu and got the 0 space error
[21:56] <ikonia> hidden: what reason do you have to think it's not that
[21:56] <pennTeller> k1l_: almost like somebody is trying to be sneaky
[21:56] <k1l_> pennTeller: well, ask the systemd guys. it was their decision
[21:56] <ikonia> what other symptom or hint
[21:56] <kantlivelong> how can i turn on a pm-suspend quirk?
[21:56] <hidden> i'm paranoid
[21:57] <Xpistos_> k1l_: I am rebotting that box now just for giggles
[21:57] <hidden> and autoremove removed affiliated stuff
[21:57] <ikonia> hidden: then there is no point discussing it - as you won't apply reason, you'll just do what you want
[21:57] <hidden> did it remove stuff that came with to
[21:57] <hidden> rtor
[21:57] <ikonia> hence "just carry on"
[21:57] <hidden> or onces linked to tor
[21:57] <OerHeks> curlyears, lscpu, for temp see lmsensors
[21:57] <OerHeks> !lmsensors
[21:57] <pennTeller> k1l_: I guess I will. Do you know where they can be found?
[21:57] <chudak> hi all, wondering if anybody has any good/bad experience using IPMI tool with Intel NUC I7 running 16.04?
[21:58] <Xpistos> k1l_: I chose install ubuntu this time. no gui
[21:58] <Xpistos> k1l_: I have the install screen. I am putting in my wireless password. Clicking on install and ...
[21:59] <k1l_> Xpistos: what ubuntu is that exactly?
[21:59] <Xpistos> k1l_: 16.04 64x
[22:00] <k1l_> hmm
[22:00] <Xpistos> k1l_: it won't give me the wireless, so I am gonna skip that and just go basic
[22:01] <kantlivelong> do files in /etc/pm/config.d need exec bit?
[22:01] <Xpistos> k1l_: no it says ubi-partman failed with exit code 10 and do I want to continue
[22:01] <Xpistos> k1l_: if I say yes it will continue to fail with a bunch of stuff
[22:01] <Xpistos> k1l_: So I will boot back into the gui and try to install there
[22:02] <curlyears> E: Unable to locate package lmsensors
[22:02] <Xpistos> k1l_: When I canceled it said the same thing, that there was 0 space available
[22:03] <curlyears> e:  lmsensors not found, and I've tried apt-get install, claims it cannot find lmsensors
[22:03] <dax> i think it's lm-sensors or lm_sensors or something
[22:03] <ikonia> try searching for lmsensors
[22:03] <chili555> Islah1: BRB
[22:03] <Islah1> ok @ chili555
[22:03] <OerHeks> lm-sensors with a dash
[22:03] <k1l_> !info lm-sensors | curlyears
[22:04] <k1l_> Xpistos: something on creating that usb went wrong
[22:04] <OerHeks> curlyears, that answer you could find in the url from ubottu
[22:04] <Xpistos> k1l_: I will make another with my mint system and unetbootin
[22:04] <Xpistos> but I have done this several times already
[22:04] <k1l_> Xpistos: how did you do this one?
[22:05] <Xpistos> k1l_: same way on different computers
[22:05] <OerHeks> Xpowhat is on that hdd ? windows with bitlocker or is it a UEFI system??
[22:05] <Apteryx> Hi! My dad tried to update from 15.10 to 16.04, but now Ubuntu seems to go to suspend after the splash screen LUKS passwordprompt.
[22:05] <k1l_> Xpistos: tried "dd"?
[22:05] <Xpistos> k1l_: on the target system?
[22:05] <Apteryx> I feel it's probably not really suspended because he says he can still hear fans spinning.
[22:06] <k1l_> Xpistos: "dd" to create the live usb
[22:06]  * zykotick9 suggests NOT using unetbootin with hybrid iso images
[22:06]  * zykotick9 would also suggest using cp over dd, but ymmv there...
[22:06] <Xpistos> k1l_: No I have never done that before
[22:06] <chili555> Islah1: Back but I only have a couple of minutes. Is the driver installed? Working as expected?
[22:06] <Xpistos> k1l_: I am willing to do it if you give me the commad
[22:06] <Xpistos> command
[22:07] <Islah1> Still trying to figure out  way to install it without internet connection :p @ chili555
[22:07] <zykotick9> "sudo cp foo.iso /dev/sdb" IF sdb is your darget drive!
[22:07] <zykotick9> s/darget/target/
[22:07] <zykotick9> to be safe run "sync" afterwords.
[22:08] <chili555> Islah1: Do you have the Ubutntu install DVD or USB? The package and its dependency dkms are on there.
[22:08] <chili555> Islah1: Gotta zoom. Sorry.
[22:08] <k1l_> Xpistos: the cp command from zykotick9 should work too
[22:09] <zayd> i have a problem with wifi connection
[22:09] <Xpistos> k1l_: "sudo cp foo.iso /dev/sdb" got it
[22:10] <zykotick9> Xpistos: note, you might need "sudo sync"... not sure, can't test.
[22:11] <ctjctj> sync never needs root privs
[22:11] <Islah1> ugh
[22:11] <Islah1> this is never going to work :(
[22:11] <zykotick9> ctjctj: thanks.
[22:11] <Xpistos> zykotick9: what is "s/darget/target/"
[22:11] <Apteryx> Actually, it has nothing to do with suspend, but with the video signal being lost after grub loads.
[22:11] <zykotick9> substitue darget for target
[22:12] <Xpistos> zykotick9: got yah
[22:12] <zykotick9> Xpistos: regex ftw ;)
[22:12] <ctjctj> the 's' is ed/ex/vim/sed for "substitute" the character after is the demark.  The regex in between first and second demarks is your search pattern and the text between the second and third is the replacement text.
[22:12] <Xpistos> zykotick9: I will let you know in a few minutes. have to redownload the iso and ... my regex fu is not strong
[22:13] <zykotick9> Xpistos: re "my regex fu is not strong" <- nor is mine... really ;)
[22:13] <ctjctj> regex is a write only language.
[22:13]  * ctjctj has good regex foo.  "And it is STILL write only"
[22:16] <curlyears> why does this:  find / 'lm-sensor'   result in a humongous list of when seems to be every file of every directory on my SSD?  I have gone over the instructions in the man page, and I thought this is what I needed.
[22:17] <zykotick9> curlyears: "find / -name 'lm-sensor'
[22:17] <zykotick9> or -iname without case sensitivity.
[22:17] <curlyears> I did apt-get install on lm-sensors.  Apt-get informs me that it is installed.  Yet, when I try to type lm-sensors it sayd "command not found"
[22:17] <Islah1> Anyone reccomend a lightweight linux distro that has broadcom driver support for wifi? Lubuntu is giving me too much of a headache trying to figure this sh*t out :(
[22:18] <lordcirth> Islah1, is it a really new adapter?
[22:18] <curlyears> zykotick9: I tried -iname   it maade no difference
[22:18] <Islah1> Not really  @ lordcirth
[22:18] <Islah1> I dont think so at least
[22:19] <Islah1> its a broadcom 14e4:4365
[22:19] <Islah1> i tried installing bcmwl kernel source via the ubuntu install files and i get a gcc error
[22:20] <lordcirth> Islah1, there's a support thread that got it working in 2012
[22:20] <squinty> curlyears,  might want to install  mlocate and then run the following commands   sudo updatedb && locate <program name>
[22:20] <Islah1> Where at? I feel like i've tried everything on the internet
[22:20] <Islah1> @ lordcirth
[22:20] <lordcirth> Islah1, https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1145360#p1145360
[22:21] <Islah1> ill look at it, thanks @ lordcirth
[22:21] <lordcirth> Islah1, actually this looks better: http://askubuntu.com/questions/175104/how-do-i-install-bcm43142-wireless-drivers-for-dell-vostro-3460-3560
[22:22] <Xpistos> zykotick9: iso is downloaded now running the cp command
[22:22] <lordcirth> It's for 12.04 tho, so ymmv
[22:22] <squinty> curlyears,  you can also use the "which" command to locate executables.  eg  which firefox  (type in terminal)
[22:23] <arm_986-80486xf>  pastebin.com/u4TFr42L <- The *NEW Hunter Reon Barnes Infinity Generator
[22:23] <Xpistos> zykotick9: better ext4 or fat32?
[22:24] <Islah1> @ lordcirth if i need to install pre-reqs such as "sudo apt-get install build-essential dkms" like it says, how can i do that with no internet connection?
[22:24] <lordcirth> Islah1, does your laptop not have an ethernet port?
[22:25] <Islah1> nope, it's a netbook and it doesnt have one :(
[22:25] <Islah1> thats why its making it so difficult
[22:25] <lordcirth> Islah1, how are you on IRC right now?
[22:26] <Islah1> my desktop
[22:26] <lordcirth> Islah1, you have a USB stick?  You can download the packages there and move them across
[22:27] <fff> do you really need to use swap?
[22:27] <Islah1> I do have a usb stick yeah
[22:27] <Islah1> which packages do i need exactly?
[22:28] <k1l_> fff: no. if you have enough ram and dont want to use hibternation
[22:28] <k1l_> *hibernation
[22:28] <fff> is it possible to use swap on a flash drive
[22:29] <lordcirth> fff, yes, but you will wear it out
[22:29] <zykotick9> Xpistos: with the cp command i gave you, it won't matter if the usb is fat or ext <- it'll be overwritten regardless (as will EVERYTHING else on that drive, so be sure the sdb is the correct one!)
[22:29] <lordcirth> Islah1, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Offline
[22:29] <Xpistos> zykotick9: solid. off we go
[22:32] <yuken> Will Ubuntu experience any problems if I: install it in a virtual machine (VirtualBox), convert it to a raw image (dd if = /dev/sd[whatever] of = image), then install that image onto a hard drive (dd if = image of = /dev/sd[whatever])?
[22:33] <curlyears> squintyy:   I did this //paste.ubuntu.com/21688737/ aand then did "which lm-sensors"  which comes back with no response, just a new prompt
[22:33] <k1l_> curlyears: any reason you still didnt run the updates?
[22:34] <zykotick9> curlyears: is it "Permission denied" that is being listed?  "find / -iname 'lmsensor' 2>/dev/null"
[22:34] <curlyears> K1l:  I did run the updates.  lscpu tells me I am running 16.04.1 LTS
[22:34] <Xpistos> zykotick9: so do i just run "sync" or is there more to it ie target etc?
[22:34] <k1l_> curlyears: "and 153 not upgraded."
[22:34] <k1l_> curlyears: "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade"
[22:34] <curlyears> zykotick9: no.  I tried runnning as sudo, to avoid any permissions issues
[22:35] <zykotick9> Xpistos: after it's finished, run "sync" that way all buffers will be cleared.  then just reboot, or pull the drive.
[22:35] <Xpistos> cool I will give it a shot now
[22:36] <zykotick9> curlyears: note: i have lm-sensors installed, but "find / -iname lm_sensors" doesn't find anything!  use "dpkg -L lm-sensors" to see what/where it installed stuff.
[22:36] <squinty> curlyears,  if you are looking to see what sensors are in your unit then  sudo /usr/sbin/sensors-detect   which is part of the lm-sensors package
[22:37] <curlyears> k1l:  I can't post a URL because the commmand never finishes.  It is stuck here:  WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts.
[22:37] <curlyears> Extracting templates from packages: 100%
[22:37] <k1l_> curlyears: run that just as it is. without piping it
[22:38] <zykotick9> curlyears: you might want to temporarilty try apt-get instead of apt.  ymmv.
[22:38] <curlyears> it finally finishedd:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/21689299/
[22:39] <fff> does apt-get compile the program?
[22:39] <dax> no
[22:39] <Xpistos> zykotick9: I am still getting the 0 bytes disk space error
[22:39] <Apachez> nice bug, if you set "turn screen off when inactive for" to "never" while you have "Lock" set to "On" and "Lock screen after" set to "10 minutes" and enabled for "Require my password when waking from suspend" the screenlock doesnt seem to apply
[22:39] <k1l_> curlyears: your alephobjects.com 3rd party repo is rubbish and that package used from there is not properly build
[22:39] <Apachez> or could be my optical mouse who is sending various small movements even if im not in the room
[22:40] <zykotick9> fff: not usually.  you can compile stuff from <foo-src> repos, but that's unusal.  it's mostly binary packages, 99.9% of the time.
[22:40] <Xpistos> zykotick9: when I try to look in the drive using disk analyzer it says permissions denied???
[22:40] <fff> use chmod
[22:41] <Greeley> curlyears have you tried apt-get clean to remove that package and have apt-get download it again?
[22:41] <curlyears> k1l:   not again???? Lulzbot automatically creats those entries in my repo lists, in order to dowload and insta;; the software necessary to support y 3D printer.
[22:41] <zykotick9> Xpistos: sorry, i wouldn't know.  but in my opinion, running anything as gui with elevated privs. is kinda insane...
[22:41] <k1l_> curlyears: if you really want to install that 3rd party package you could manually force it
[22:42] <Xpistos> k1l_: tried using the CP method with no change
[22:42] <curlyears> k1l:  yes, I suppose I could, if I knew how to dothat.   What do I  need to read?
[22:42] <fff> they will cause conflicting
[22:43] <curlyears> k1l:  and just for my elucidation, what, precisely, do you mean by "those entries are rubbish?"
[22:43] <curlyears> I am going to have to report this to alephobjects, obviously
[22:44] <fff> rubbish means trash
[22:44] <k1l_> curlyears: sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/libjpeg8_8d1-2_amd64.deb
[22:44] <k1l_> curlyears: see lines 84-86 from your paste
[22:45] <Xpistos> k1l_: libparted warning, the driver descriptor says the physical block size is 2048, but linux says it is 512 bytes
[22:45] <k1l_> curlyears: they want to overwrite stuff that is handled by an ubuntu package. that is against .deb guidelines. they should remove the ubuntu package and install their own 3rd party version of it instead of keeping both packages on the system
[22:45] <SuperMechaCow> Xpistos: I had that error when partioning my SSDs for installation
[22:45] <Xpistos> k1l_: but I am not trying to format the usb only the hard drive
[22:46] <fff> 4.6 changed the default ext4 from 4k to 2k
[22:46] <k1l_> Xpistos: that doesnt matter. that is because the .iso image had a different sector size than the usb. but that doesnt matter
[22:47] <Xpistos> k1l_: I whiped the main drive and reformated it to one big partition 931.51 gb
[22:47] <curlyears> k1l:   ok, got it.  I can still use the software they installed, if I remove their entries fro the repo list, right?
[22:48] <Xpistos> k1l_: it is telling me ubi-* pacakges are failing, language, partman etc
[22:48] <k1l_> curlyears: i guess they had a reason to ship that version. i dont know. i would ask them and maybe force the install as i sais.
[22:48] <k1l_> *said
[22:49] <curlyears> can't ask them until tomorrow :(
[22:50] <k1l_> then do it tomorrow. as long as your system is running so far, there is no need to touch that now
[22:50] <fff> dpkg configure -a
[22:50] <k1l_> fff: no
[22:51] <SuperMechaCow> woops
[22:51] <Xpistos> k1l_: I checked in /var/log/syslog and it says errors like this over and over paste.ubuntu.com/21690676
[22:52] <Xpistos> http://paste.ubuntu.com/21690676
[22:53] <k1l_> Xpistos: asus laptop?
[22:53] <chili555> Islah1: Did you get it fixed?
[22:53] <Xpistos> yes
[22:53] <Islah1> nope :( @chili555
[22:53] <Islah1> im hopeless
[22:54] <chili555> Islah1: Do you have the Ubuntu install DVD or USB?
[22:54] <Islah1> yeah on a USB i do
[22:54] <Islah1> @chili555
[22:54] <andai> Hi, how can I know if ubuntu is using the right drivers for my graphics card? I get screen tearing. In the Drivers utility there's nothing about graphics
[22:55] <dax> what card?
[22:56] <k1l_> Xpistos: sounds like a asus issue.
[22:56] <chili555> Islah1: Insert it and navigate to pool >  pool > restricted > b > bcmwl  and drag and drop the bcmwl-kernel-source .deb file to your desktop. Then...
[22:56] <k1l_> Xpistos: bug 1521173
[22:56] <SuperMechaCow> andai: did you go to the "Additional Drivers" in the "Software & Updates" utility?
[22:56] <k1l_> Xpistos: try kernel mode pci=noaer setting on startup
[22:57] <chili555> Islah1: do the same with pool > main > d > dkms and drag and drop the dkms .deb file to your desktop. Next...
[22:57] <Xpistos> k1l_: clicked on edit the startup, should I just drop that at the bottom?
[22:57] <chili555> Islah1: Install them both by right-clicking and allowing the Software Center to install.
[22:58] <Islah1> GDebi package installer
[22:58] <zykotick9> andai: does "lspci -v | grep -i vga" say you have Intel?  if so, you're probably using the right driver (from the kernel).  i don't think i've ever had "no tearing" in my years with various graphics cards/setups under X.  ymmmv?
[22:58] <Islah1> will that work?
[22:58] <k1l_> !nomodeset | Xpistos do it like described in this link just with pci=noaer instead of nomodeset
[22:58] <Islah1> @chili555
[22:58] <chili555> Islah1: It should, but I'll help you if there is a snag.
[22:59] <Islah1> (I dont have software center cause im on lubuntu) :P
[22:59] <Islah1> Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: gcc
[22:59] <andai> zykotick9: Yep! Then I guess my integrated card is just too crappy for 3D acceleration on VMWare
[22:59] <Islah1> @chili555
[22:59] <chili555> Islah1: you can install from the terminal: cd ~/Desktop
[22:59] <chili555> Islah1: sudo dpkg -i dkms*.deb
[23:00] <chili555> Islah1: sudo dpkg -i bcmwl-kernel-source*.deb and then reboot.
[23:00] <Islah1> got an error when trying to install dkms @chili555
[23:01] <chili555> Islah1: Uhhhh, what is it??
[23:01] <Xpistos> k1l_: I added it right after the quiet splash and lets see what we get
[23:01] <Islah1> dkms depends on gcc; however; gcc is not installed. dkms depends on make | build-essential | dpkg-dev; however; package make is not installed. Package build-essential is not installed. Package dpkg-dev is not installed
[23:02] <Islah1> @chili555
[23:02] <k1l_> Xpistos: yeah. that was the reason for the full disk. it was making that much errors in the logs, that the live system ran out of space
[23:02] <Xpistos> k1l_: I am already further along!!! Thanks I will report back
[23:03] <chili555> Islah1: All those things are already installed on plain old Ubuntu. Are you sure lubuntu is good for you? Or else, are you certain you can't get an ethernet connection for a few moments? From a friend?
[23:03] <Xpistos> k1l_: crap. happened again. but atleast I have an idea of where this maybe be going
[23:04] <Islah1> The laptop im using (notebook) doesn't have an ethernet port
[23:04] <Islah1> Or else i would have used it long ago
[23:04] <Islah1> I just want a lightweight distro for this thing :(
[23:05] <Xpistos> k1l_: same crap but I will keep searching
[23:05] <lordcirth> Islah1, there are USB-to-Ethernet adapters, if you're ok with spending $20.
[23:05] <lordcirth> Or borrowing one
[23:05] <Islah1> I'll have to see if any friends have one, anyone else know of another good lightweight distro?
[23:06] <chili555> Islah1: The only thing left is to go to http://packages.ubuntu.com and get all those packages, build-essential, gcc, make, etc. appropriate to your Ubuntu version and architecture (32- or 64-bit) and install each one. Sorry.
[23:06] <lordcirth> Islah1,BunsenLabs
[23:06]  * zykotick9 has wanted a usb->ethernet for quite a while, he's never actually seen one to purchase, in real life (and be able to confirm it would work with only free drivers) :(
[23:06] <chili555> Islah1: You might try xubuntu.
[23:06] <lordcirth> zykotick9, I've only used them at work
[23:06] <Islah1> is xubuntu lightweight? @chili555
[23:07] <fff> broadcom might work
[23:07] <lordcirth> Islah1, lubuntu's lxde is lighter than xubuntu's xfce, but it is still quite light.
[23:07] <Islah1> Alright, ill look at it. This little notebook only has 2GB of ram
[23:07] <Islah1> so i want it as light as possible =p
[23:07] <Xpistos> k1l_: that bug was posted to as recently as yesterday so I will follow it and hopefully there will be a solution soon. Thanks again!
[23:07] <fff> mate uses around 600mb of ram
[23:08] <lordcirth> Islah1, https://www.bunsenlabs.org/
[23:08] <lordcirth> Or Arch with Openbox or a tiling WM :P
[23:08] <chili555> Islah1: yes, I use it on a 32-bit old Thinkpad and it runs very well with its wheezing CPU fan which threatens to die every day!
[23:08] <k1l_> Xpistos: i would look if there is some bios update for that machine
[23:08] <Islah1> Alright, ill try them both =p
[23:08] <Islah1> thanks for helping atleast :)
[23:08] <lordcirth> Islah1, VM's are your friend!  (On your desktop, obv)
[23:09] <brenda> Hi, I have am intel Celeron notebook, what is the less CPU intensive way to watch Youtube hd videos?
[23:09] <fff> enlightenment
[23:09] <Xpistos> k1l_: will do. It has been wiped so may be hard to get the flash to go
[23:09] <chili555> Islah1: And then I removed everything I thought I wouldn't need, mailreader, etc.
[23:09] <Islah1> Yeah i only intend on using it for light browsing/coding
[23:09] <Islah1> and taking notes in class
[23:09] <ross`> can someone tell me why the xen installer kernel/ramdisk segfaults during dhcp configuration?
[23:10] <fff> or icewm
[23:11] <chili555> Islah1: Good luck, my friend!
[23:12] <lordcirth> brenda, running them in a browser doesn't work?  You could use youtube-dl to download them, then play them with vlc
[23:13] <fff> wget
[23:14] <brenda> lordcirth, in Chrome and Firefox I get a CPU load of 80-100%
[23:14] <lordcirth> brenda, yeah, try youtube-dl
[23:16] <brenda> lordcirth, mpv installs youtube-dl... but I do not get it to work...
[23:16] <lordcirth> brenda, using it through mpv, or by itself?
[23:17] <brenda> lordcirth, mpv link --no-video give me a lot of youtube-dl errors
[23:17] <fff> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/download-youtube/
[23:17] <brenda> lordcirth, que mpv
[23:18] <fff> downloads as mp4
[23:18] <lordcirth> brenda, so you only want the audio to play?
[23:18] <brenda> lordcirth, with mpv
[23:18] <brenda> lordcirth, no, audio and video
[23:19] <lordcirth> brenda, then why --no-video ?
[23:19] <Xpistos> k1l_: Bios is current as of 2013. just have to wait and see what comes out of bug report
[23:20] <brenda> fff, it is nice to download some videos but it is not what I want
[23:21] <brenda> lordcirth, acording to man mpv --no-video sends the link to be procesed by youtube-dl
[23:21] <bytesaber> does Conanical dislike projects such as lubuntu, xubuntu, ubuntu-gnome ?
[23:22] <brenda> lordcirth, am I doing it wrong?
[23:22] <lordcirth> {l,k,x}buntu are official
[23:22] <lordcirth> brenda, yes, --no-video is sound-only, like for music videos
[23:22] <bytesaber> lordcirth, I was actually googling trying to find somekind of "stance" or statement on that.  By chance know of something that helps claim that?
[23:23] <lordcirth> brenda, however, it's not working for me either, looks like yt changed their formats.  There's a new version of youtube-dl that's not packaged yet
[23:23] <OerHeks> bytesaber, strange question, those are official supported.
[23:23] <OerHeks> !flavor
[23:23] <bytesaber> Trying to comprehend what the difference between Xubuntu, and Ubuntu with XFCE installed, is.
[23:23] <toxik> There's different software used
[23:23] <toxik> That's about it
[23:24] <bytesaber> In the end, wouldn't it be the same in either case?
[23:24] <z0ran> 16.04 is totally awesome, it doesnt use at all cpu like 14.04 use to and it is easy on ram too....great job!
[23:24] <bytesaber> Xubuntu 14, out of the can, seems to have a different menu bar, than Ubuntu with XFCE installed after install.
[23:24] <jottr> Hi all. On ubuntu what does echo $OS_TYPE return?
[23:25] <jottr> s/$OS_TYPE/$OSTYPE
[23:25] <lordcirth> Kylin is official? Interesting
[23:25] <Islah1> Installing xubuntu, hopefully it works :)
[23:25] <lordcirth> jottr, linux-gnu
[23:25] <jottr> lordcirth: thx
[23:25] <toxik> I've had very few problems with Xubuntu
[23:26] <brenda> lordcirth, YT does that once in while :-/
[23:26] <lordcirth> z0ran, and most importantly, ZFS support!
[23:26] <bytesaber> Or better yet, why wouldn't it be something like www.ubuntu.org/xubuntu   /lubuntu   ..etc
[23:26] <z0ran> I know....totally rocks
[23:26] <z0ran> I canto
[23:27] <lordcirth> bytesaber, as opposed to what?
[23:27] <z0ran> I cannot believe how big diference is on my cpu
[23:27] <lordcirth> Oh, instead of websites
[23:27] <z0ran> that is unbelievable
[23:28] <z0ran> and I have ff, chromium, chrome and vbox running
[23:28] <z0ran> such a great job they did this time....bravo!
[23:28] <bytesaber> lordcirth, They jsut all feel like fan websites / projects, following ubuntu's work.   It's not a complaint.  Just trying to grasp what's going on in the world.
[23:30] <toxik> 16.04 is absolutely rock solid, and it makes me extremely happy
[23:31] <Islah1> aaaaand xubuntu didnt recognize drivers either :( @chili555
[23:31] <Islah1> sweet
[23:31] <lordcirth> brenda, I got it working!
[23:31] <lordcirth> brenda, I installed pip and used pip to install the latest youtube-dl
[23:32] <robotbeta> I am using Lubuntu Netbook on this 2002 Sony PCG-FXA63. I feel content with life.
[23:32] <Islah1> time to try your suggestion @lordcirth
[23:32] <bytesaber> linux and ssd's.  giving live to old PC's
[23:32] <bytesaber> life
[23:32] <brenda> lordcirth, I was thinking of doing the same thing :)
[23:33] <robotbeta> I am going to upgrade the hard drive, ram, and maybe the CPU.
[23:33] <brenda> lordcirth, what is the pip command for downloading the latest version?
[23:33] <lordcirth> robotbeta, that model allows cpu upgrades?
[23:33] <robotbeta> Then, I will go try updating to 14.04 (I am at 12.04)
[23:33] <lordcirth> brenda, pip install youtube-dl
[23:33] <robotbeta> I am looking into it.
[23:34] <robotbeta> I am sure.
[23:34] <brenda> lordcirth, what is 2 simple :)
[23:34] <robotbeta> You just gotta make sure you know what you are doing.
[23:34] <lordcirth> robotbeta, if you're upgrading from 12, and replacing the harddrive, why not just fresh install 16.04?
[23:34] <robotbeta> Well, I don't want to rush in.
[23:34] <robotbeta> I see what is going to be best.
[23:35] <lordcirth> I don't see any reason to install 14.04 when 16.04.1 is out
[23:35] <robotbeta> The computer is old.
[23:35] <robotbeta> 14 years
[23:36] <Islah1> alright lets give burner a try @lordcith
[23:36] <lordcirth> robotbeta, z0ran was just saying that 16.04 was faster than 14.04 for him.
[23:36] <robotbeta> Oh.
[23:36] <robotbeta> Yeah.
[23:36] <lordcirth> robotbeta, but if it's 14 years old, I'd be using Xubuntu.
[23:37] <lordcirth> Although I question the value of a CPU upgrade to a computer that old.
[23:37] <toxik> Xubuntu, or alternatively Lubuntu
[23:37] <robotbeta> I like Lubuntu best.
[23:37] <lordcirth> Anything compatible with it will be nearly as old and have to find
[23:37] <lordcirth> s/have/hard
[23:37] <robotbeta> I found the processor, in the same family as it.
[23:38] <Islah1> for install should i do normal install or graphical install @lordcirth
[23:38] <Islah1> for bunsenlabs
[23:38] <toxik> Can you unmount it from the socket, though?
[23:38] <robotbeta> But it still is an upgrade by 333 mega hertz
[23:38] <lordcirth> Islah1, may as well do graphical.  It's just a standard debian installer
[23:38] <Islah1> ah ok
[23:38] <lordcirth> robotbeta, from what?
[23:38] <robotbeta> It is an AMD processor 1.4 giga hertz
[23:38] <robotbeta> right now
[23:39] <lordcirth> from 1.4 to 1.7Ghz?  Not sure that's worth the money and hassle
[23:39] <toxik> If anything, I would recommend just getting a SSD if you haven't already
[23:40] <robotbeta> I don't think I can.
[23:40] <toxik> What model is your laptop again?
[23:40] <robotbeta> 2002 Sony PCG-FXA63
[23:40] <robotbeta> Originally came with Windows XP.
[23:41] <zykotick9> toxik: the SSD upgrade is always fantastic (assuming the system has sata to do it!) much better than cpu or ram IMO.
[23:41] <robotbeta> From what I have researched, it can only do HDD.
[23:41] <zykotick9> robotbeta: :(
[23:41] <robotbeta> I have only found HDDs
[23:42] <z0ran> ssd goes with fast cpu for best results
[23:42] <z0ran> intel cpu
[23:42] <ross`> why does the xen install kernel keep segfaulting at random times?!?
[23:42] <robotbeta> I have an AMD.
[23:42] <robotbeta> hueheuehue
[23:42] <ross`> xenial
[23:42] <robotbeta> AMD Athlon, which is 32 bit.
[23:42] <z0ran> amd is to slow...i know the diference when i get i7 from amd
[23:42] <robotbeta> I like AMDs personally.
[23:43] <z0ran> that is huge difference
[23:43] <Islah1> Doesnt look like bunsenlabs will detect my network hardware either @lordcirth :(
[23:43] <toxik> AMD will compete with Intel on performance soon
[23:43] <z0ran> i mean hugeee....like i was in stone age with amd
[23:43] <lordcirth> z0ran, there are fast AMD CPUs too.
[23:43] <robotbeta> There are.
[23:43] <z0ran> not like intel....not even close
[23:43] <lordcirth> I am waiting for Zen to come out next year to build my new PC.
[23:43]  * zykotick9 is stuck with intel pre-i3 cause he doesn't want any ME stuff :(
[23:44] <z0ran> i7 is king of cpu....trust me i jad amd for long time
[23:44] <lordcirth> zykotick9, management engine?
[23:44] <robotbeta> AMD makes some good things.
[23:44] <zykotick9> lordcirth: yup.
[23:44] <robotbeta> I am gonna go.
[23:44] <z0ran> cost money but it is worth every dime
[23:44] <toxik> robotbeta: After doing some research onto your laptop, I think you'd be better off to buy a new laptop than try to upgrade yours.
[23:44] <brenda> z0ran, u r right, SSD performance on AMD chipset is not as good as INte┬┤
[23:44] <brenda> intel
[23:45] <toxik> I don't see any noticeable difference between my i5 build and my fx-8350 with SSD's
[23:45] <lordcirth> zykotick9, have you looked at ARM64?
[23:46] <lordcirth> SATA speed is not bound by CPU manufacturer
[23:46] <lordcirth> NVMe, maybe.
[23:46] <z0ran> uuu
[23:47] <Islah1> I might just have to install windows @lordcirth and see if it is a network card issue
[23:48] <z0ran> intel skylike i7 and nvme...that is something
[23:48] <toxik> What's your problem, Islah1?
[23:48] <zykotick9> lordcirth: not really.  i have an "ARMv7 Processor rev 2 (v7l)" powering my irc box ;)  it's a Beagle Bone Black (bbb).  i don't think any of the arm64 boards meet my freedom requirement right now :(
[23:48] <Islah1> toxik it seems no linux distros i've tried today will recognize my broadcom network card (Im on a notebook laptop with no ethernet port)
[23:48] <Islah1> ive tried lubuntu, xubuntu, and now bunsenlabs
[23:49] <Islah1> but other distros like ElementaryOS recognized it just fine
[23:49] <toxik> Just wondering, have you tried a a WiFi dongle?
[23:50] <toxik> They're great for fixing driver issues. Absolute lifesaver
[23:50] <Islah1> I had one but i cant find it :s
[23:50] <Islah1> ill look around for it
[23:52] <lordcirth> zykotick9, there's also the RISC-V project, you should keep an eye on that
[23:53] <zykotick9> lordcirth: thanks.  but this is OT for #ubuntu ;)  ps. i keep my ear close to the ground on those things
[23:53] <brenda> lordcirth, I installed pip and installed the latest youtube.dl and it now works also for me
[23:54] <brenda> lordcirth, thank u 4 that tip
[23:54] <lordcirth> brenda, np.  Saw it on youtube-dl github
[23:55] <zykotick9> brenda: fyi, you certainly don't need pip to install the latest youtube.dl, it's just a script you can drop in ~/bin
[23:55] <lordcirth> zykotick9, yeah, they apparently recommend pip though.  updates and so on
[23:57] <Islah1> hey @toxik
[23:57] <zykotick9> lordcirth: while i see there point.  i don't really believe it's a good idea to have to conflicting packages managers on one system (my only exception to that rule was a brief experiment with Guix).
[23:57] <Islah1> i may have found a USB to ethernet cord
[23:57] <Islah1> would that work possibly
[23:57] <lordcirth> Islah1, hopefully
[23:57] <zykotick9> lordcirth: s/good idea to have to/good idea to have two/
[23:58] <ross`> can someone please please please tell me why the xenial xen installer kernel and ramdisk keep segfaulting at different random times during the installation process
[23:58] <ross`> I have tried to install ubuntu 8 times now
[23:59] <ross`> and it keeps segfaulting at different parts
[23:59] <toxik> Have you tried flashing a new image to install it yet?
[23:59] <ross`> flashing a new image?
[23:59] <Ben64> ross`: sounds like a bad image or bad hardware