| === Blix is now known as Caveaus | ||
| mchelen2 | i may have forgotten to put the i/o shield into the case during my last build, resulting in having to take out the whole mobo again :D | 01:01 |
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| daftykins | doh! | 01:04 |
| daftykins | when you get those cheap metal ones with the little lips that need to sit on top of IO ports for grounding, sometimes i've assembled things with those picking inside a LAN port say and had to start over | 01:04 |
| daftykins | very frustrating, those | 01:04 |
| mchelen2 | yeah i'm kind of surprised they haven't improved much after all these years | 01:22 |
| mchelen2 | i was impressed with other aspects of the case, like mounting options & cable management | 01:22 |
| ducasse | hi all | 07:00 |
| BluesKaj | Hi all | 11:47 |
| EriC^^ | wow | 15:45 |
| EriC^^ | that was funny | 15:45 |
| ducasse | what a f*****g twit. | 15:46 |
| ducasse | a small nsfw warning would have been nice. | 15:47 |
| EriC^^ | :D | 15:49 |
| EriC^^ | lol | 15:49 |
| EriC^^ | he just upped the anti | 15:49 |
| dax | oh jesus | 15:50 |
| daftykins | do tell (: | 15:50 |
| ducasse | wth is wrong with this guy? | 15:50 |
| EriC^^ | some guy pasted this relating to his no flash working query https://ptpb.pw/7684 | 15:51 |
| dax | (NSFW) | 15:51 |
| ducasse | daftykins: "oh noes, pr0n doesn't work" | 15:51 |
| daftykins | hmm that actually just opened as a page of unicode or some such to me | 15:51 |
| EriC^^ | daftykins: yeah | 15:51 |
| dax | generally the ones that aren't messing around find a better test case | 15:52 |
| EriC^^ | lol | 15:52 |
| EriC^^ | wget https://ptpb.pw/7684 && xdg-open 7684 | 15:52 |
| daftykins | i got my 7 year old RMA'd RAM replacements today :D all in and working! | 15:52 |
| EriC^^ | great :D | 15:53 |
| daftykins | they sent it before i even sent mine, which was quite unfortunate for their policy | 15:53 |
| daftykins | i could've held onto mine too if i were a naughty type of fella :P | 15:54 |
| EriC^^ | i've been going on a lot of shopping sprees at the supermarket lately | 15:59 |
| EriC^^ | the shopping cart looks kind of funny, it's full of stuff like a 9 year old got some money and went shopping, tons of skittles, fruit loops, whip cream cans, etc | 16:00 |
| ducasse | daftykins: you had the das keyboard, right? blank keys? | 16:01 |
| EriC^^ | i basically eat whip cream, then down some hershey's chocolate syrup | 16:01 |
| EriC^^ | eat skittles and cake etc | 16:01 |
| EriC^^ | you know, the healthy life | 16:01 |
| daftykins | ducasse: yep | 16:02 |
| daftykins | still here on a spare chair behind me, relegated to nothing right now | 16:02 |
| ducasse | daftykins: happy with that? did it take much effort getting used to? | 16:03 |
| daftykins | though for typing i definitely miss the cherry blues, really nice feel to those - just a shame it started playing up so much | 16:03 |
| daftykins | ah i could always touch type, the only problems are if someone phoned and i had to hold it with one hand, tough to one handed type on blank - or if you want to quickly type something standing up beside the desk, that sort of thing | 16:03 |
| ducasse | that was what i was thinking of. i don't look at the keys normally, but in situations like that i do. | 16:04 |
| ducasse | it'd be _hilarious_ when my mother is visiting and wants to use my machine, though. that + my i3 setup = confusion :) | 16:05 |
| daftykins | :) | 16:08 |
| daftykins | yep friends would come over and struggled big time, i was really shocked | 16:08 |
| ducasse | you could have also switched the layout to dvorak ;) | 16:10 |
| daftykins | no, that's too extreme - compatibility with others for peoples systems i'd work on is more important to me | 16:11 |
| daftykins | messing with someone elses settings = a huge idiot move | 16:11 |
| daftykins | (such as if i was at a clients, for example) | 16:11 |
| ducasse | that is _not_ nice, i agree. i was thinking more of others trying to use a blank keyboard with dvorak layout on your system. | 16:12 |
| daftykins | ah right, haha | 16:14 |
| daftykins | my mistake | 16:14 |
| ducasse | you are right about the compatibility thing, that must slow people who normally use dvorak down, wouldn't it? i don't know if i could keep two so different layouts in muscle memory. | 16:14 |
| daftykins | mmm too risky for me to consider trying | 16:16 |
| daftykins | plus laptops... | 16:16 |
| daftykins | ones that i daren't even imagine taking a key off of :D | 16:16 |
| ducasse | no point in learning dvorak when you touch type on qwerty, i think... | 16:17 |
| ducasse | i know they claim it's faster, but doubt there can be enough difference to matter. | 16:18 |
| ducasse | daftykins: have fun installing the new ram, btw, i've got to either install that damned cpu cooler or get on with trying to grok routeros... | 16:24 |
| daftykins | yeah, the effort to re-learn would be huge | 16:24 |
| daftykins | oh i did it already, ran a pass of memtest86+ and it's all good :) | 16:24 |
| daftykins | so now i have 2 x core 2 quad PCs with 8GB RAM | 16:25 |
| ducasse | should be, with new sticks :) | 16:25 |
| daftykins | yeah just nice to give it some work | 16:25 |
| daftykins | what i was getting with the last RAM was that if i turned it off and unplugged the mains cable, in 10 minutes it wouldn't POST again | 16:25 |
| daftykins | pretty sure the motherboard it was in that has blown capacitors zapped it in some really subtle way | 16:26 |
| ducasse | sounds probable. i need to get some more memory for this laptop, but i need to get authentic hp sticks... | 16:26 |
| daftykins | you might not have them there but i love just going to www.crucial.com/uk as they guarantee compatibility if you pick the system - free return if it doesn't work, too | 16:29 |
| ducasse | i tried putting another disk (an ssd) in this laptop, and it refused to recognize it. | 16:30 |
| daftykins | hmm that's weird | 16:33 |
| daftykins | standard 2.5" SATA? | 16:33 |
| ducasse | yup. didn't see it at all. | 16:33 |
| ducasse | tried another hdd, even from another hp, but no go as it wasn't on the "approved parts" list. | 16:34 |
| daftykins | ugh i find it really wrong the companies that whitelist hardware, like Lenovo/IBM with wifi cards | 16:34 |
| ducasse | yep, it's just greedy to do so. | 16:35 |
| ducasse | it's not like i would have expected them to support it. | 16:36 |
| daftykins | i'm meant to go to the west coast again today for a restaurant meal with friends, though it's solid rain all evening and tomorrow - and i was planning to cycle | 16:37 |
| ducasse | sounds like you need a new plan :) how was the bbq? | 16:38 |
| daftykins | yeah pretty good thanks :) good fun showing up and parking by bike beside their house, seeing them in the kitchen through the window | 16:39 |
| daftykins | pulled my phone out and messaged my friend saying "hey, look left!" | 16:39 |
| daftykins | left at 1:30am and man the ride home was a strain | 16:39 |
| daftykins | proper up and down valleys despite the relatively short distance | 16:40 |
| daftykins | hmm yesterday i struggled to boot a 14.04.1 server DVD, might try again | 16:40 |
| ducasse | i did that to a friend around the time the first matrix movie came out, sms'ed him "knock, knock" before ringing the bell. just couldn't resist :) | 16:41 |
| ducasse | oh god | 16:42 |
| ducasse | damn cat came in with a bird. | 16:42 |
| daftykins | D: | 16:45 |
| ducasse | not a dead one, to put it that way. started flapping around in the bathroom. unfortunately for the bird, she caught it again before i did :) | 16:47 |
| daftykins | i'll never forget the time i heard a noise in the kitchen, went to open the door and all i saw was a bird flying straight for my face... managed to close the door again just before XD | 16:48 |
| ducasse | i hate it when she does that, but it's a package deal kind of thing. most of the time i need to catch them and get them out, that can be tricky. mice are much easier :) | 16:50 |
| ducasse | why wouldn't the 14.04 server image boot, btw? | 16:51 |
| daftykins | mmm not sure, it just froze up during the load | 16:52 |
| daftykins | just about to swap it over and have a go, although i have to be at this restaurant in 2hours :( | 16:52 |
| daftykins | all these social obligations stop me from geeking out with fun things | 16:53 |
| ducasse | froze while booting? | 16:53 |
| daftykins | you know how server has the text installer? it was kind of the first purple screen before you'd get the first question asked, it just stopped loading there - probably a sign of the old optical drive more than anything | 16:54 |
| daftykins | i might just install to the disk from a flash drive in a machine with working USB, then transplant it | 16:54 |
| ducasse | ah, vc4 has the installer log, you know? | 16:54 |
| daftykins | hrmm if it doesn't behave normally i tend to think it's not worthy of my time | 16:55 |
| daftykins | nice, PC still boots up after being unplugged :D RAM was definitely the culprit | 16:58 |
| ducasse | one small victory :) | 16:58 |
| daftykins | oh no that one bad module had me chasing red herrings for ages | 16:59 |
| ducasse | if memtest doesn't find anything wrong, bad memory can be painful to track down. | 17:00 |
| daftykins | *nod* | 17:04 |
| ducasse | why on earth is this machine swapping? vm.swappiness=1 ... | 17:04 |
| daftykins | haha i changed the CMOS battery in this machine with the fried USB on the mobo, now it won't power on at all pressing the power button... | 17:05 |
| daftykins | this happened with one of the other boards that no longer functions at all | 17:06 |
| ducasse | oh, fun. not trying to enter bios or anything? | 17:06 |
| ducasse | well, no, if not powering on... but no blinkenlichten? nothing? | 17:07 |
| daftykins | ah my fault, i foolishly tried to plug in the EPS connector blind so only half of it was in XD | 17:08 |
| daftykins | ooh nice it's working today | 17:14 |
| ducasse | btw, do you know how much memory i should reserve for an intel gpu or how to figure it out? | 17:18 |
| daftykins | depending on the model i recall there being an automatic option | 17:20 |
| ducasse | then it just allocates what it needs? this manual is really not very detailed :) | 17:21 |
| daftykins | yeah, i thought the modern hardware memory allocation for on-die graphics had a four letter acronym to refer to memory management | 17:22 |
| daftykins | pauljw_vm: wb sir o/ | 17:22 |
| daftykins | lol just booted into this 14.04.1 install, 192 packages to update, 106 are for security | 17:22 |
| daftykins | i picked that because i prefer to stick to the 3.13 kernel :) | 17:22 |
| ducasse | "this item allows you to empower both integrated and discrete graphics devices for the multi monitor output." that's it. wth does that even mean? | 17:23 |
| pauljw_vm | hi daftykins, everyone. don't blame you, i'm sticking with 14.04 too. too many changes in 16 and my systems here all do everything we need with 14. | 17:24 |
| daftykins | exactly, 16.04 can be all up to date but it's a newer kernel with greater needs i don't require :) | 17:24 |
| daftykins | setting up this system as a kind of test backup file server i might be able to sell onto a client | 17:25 |
| pauljw_vm | i enjoy it in a vm, as now, but i'm not interested in upgrading the host. | 17:25 |
| pauljw_vm | nice | 17:25 |
| daftykins | got one of my fave 3ware 9650-SE hardware RAID controllers ;D | 17:26 |
| pauljw_vm | :) | 17:26 |
| daftykins | there we go all upgraded \o/ even that 40GB intel value SSD is nice for package installs | 17:26 |
| pauljw_vm | ssd's are still in my future. i'll get there. | 17:27 |
| daftykins | core 2 duo E7400 (2.8GHz), 4GB DDR2 @ 1066MHz and the little SSD with 14.04 server :> | 17:28 |
| daftykins | 1.5GB used - mmm | 17:29 |
| pauljw_vm | that's what memory is for right? to be used... | 17:30 |
| daftykins | disk space i meant there | 17:30 |
| daftykins | but yes! | 17:30 |
| pauljw_vm | ah | 17:30 |
| daftykins | 183MB used for RAM XD | 17:30 |
| daftykins | oh guys be afraid btw, i ordered a beginners soldering kit last night | 17:31 |
| pauljw_vm | nice | 17:31 |
| pauljw_vm | yeehaw! | 17:31 |
| ducasse | oh, the one from amazon? | 17:31 |
| daftykins | got a few different parts in the end | 17:31 |
| pauljw_vm | by the weekend you'll be questioning what took you so long... | 17:32 |
| daftykins | :D | 17:32 |
| daftykins | i've still got to identify all the blown caps and probably the ones that haven't blown and order replacements though | 17:32 |
| daftykins | huzzah local bus looks good for tonight :> | 17:40 |
| daftykins | £1! | 17:40 |
| pauljw_vm | that's not bad | 17:42 |
| daftykins | solid rain right now | 17:56 |
| daftykins | oh dear it's 7pm already | 17:56 |
| ducasse | better get going, then - have fun @ the restaurant! | 17:57 |
| pauljw_vm | :) | 17:57 |
| daftykins | :D bus appears to be at 7:45 \o/ | 17:58 |
| daftykins | rocks up at 8:07pm that'll do :> | 17:58 |
| daftykins | 3ware RAID controller firmware updated \o/ | 18:02 |
| daftykins | it's nice dealing with hardware that works ;) | 18:03 |
| ducasse | new version of routeros, do i dare? | 18:04 |
| daftykins | hehehe | 18:06 |
| daftykins | not if things work ;) | 18:06 |
| daftykins | right i best head off folks, catch you later \o | 18:06 |
| ducasse | putting that one off until tomorrow, i need a couple of the fixes. enjoy, daftykins! | 18:08 |
| OverCoder | tgm4883, well uh idk, maybe tell me what can I do to improve that PPA thingy. Also about the going through the terminal.. well um, you can just selected the outer text and copy the list as a command which can be just pasted into the terminal directly, or copy only the inner stuff and browse through nautilus, open via gedit, and paste. | 21:24 |
| tgm4883 | OverCoder: you can't do it via nautilus unless you launch nautilus with root privs | 21:25 |
| OverCoder | o right. I don't even use Ubuntu anyways :< | 21:25 |
| OverCoder | I mean I only use Ubuntu Server, so whatever. duh I feel sad after I spent these 2 days making the website :< | 21:26 |
| tgm4883 | OverCoder: The ppa portion should place them in separate files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d. Since you have to go to the terminal anyway, you could just give it the 'apt-add-repository' command since that is cleaner than adding it to sources.list | 21:26 |
| tgm4883 | Don't feel sad, I'm sure it was a good learning exercise | 21:26 |
| tgm4883 | For the regular sources.list, I don't think you're going to find a better way to do that than the software sources Gui | 21:27 |
| tgm4883 | You could see if that is implemented in a command line or ncurses way though | 21:28 |
| OverCoder | ....ah | 21:28 |
| OverCoder | well that's awesome | 21:28 |
| OverCoder | Gonna go implement that. | 21:28 |
| OverCoder | Thanks :) | 21:28 |
| tgm4883 | OverCoder: yea apt-add-repositories is a much nicer way to do the PPAs | 21:28 |
| tgm4883 | OverCoder: I do wonder how you are coming up with your list of PPAs and which ones are "trusted" | 21:29 |
| OverCoder | thanks :3 | 21:29 |
| daftykins | although if you're going to a PPA to begin with you're probably straying off the tracks of using ubuntu server already | 23:02 |
| daftykins | :P | 23:02 |
| dax | tgm4883: lol | 23:07 |
| tgm4883 | dax: I mean seriously, you guys just said that | 23:07 |
| daftykins | ? | 23:21 |
| tgm4883 | dax: IDK what you guys ususally do with that, but might want to keep an eye on monsterdemon | 23:30 |
| * dax looks up | 23:32 | |
| dax | daftykins: someone had trouble with LTS version numbers and basic math | 23:32 |
| daftykins | :D | 23:32 |
| dax | tgm4883: usually would ban them, but they /quit already :| | 23:33 |
| dax | they did it in ##linux too, looks like | 23:33 |
| tgm4883 | dax: that's why I need banning powers :) | 23:34 |
| daftykins | ah well #ubuntu only maintains ops from incompatible timezones so that these folk can get away with it, y'see | 23:34 |
| daftykins | must be tough to get everyone to meet up for the blood oath, i guess | 23:35 |
| dax | we actually replaced the blood with salt, since there's a plentiful source of it around these days | 23:35 |
| dax | tgm4883: yeah. or i need to get a job where i won't be distracted by bloody windows licensing | 23:36 |
| dax | been looking at this stuff for days and it's still ridiculous | 23:36 |
| daftykins | no, it's only salt if i wanted back in... i could point out your flaws but you guys like your little private club | 23:36 |
| dax | lol | 23:37 |
| daftykins | you're too busy doing your day job to even handle your task as an op :) | 23:37 |
| daftykins | see this is the problem dax, you're probably one of the most approachable and you're still clamming up | 23:53 |
| daftykins | you've got too much of an us vs. them approach toward the volunteers when you should all be working together | 23:53 |
| === OverCoder is now known as root | ||
| === root is now known as OverCoder | ||
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