=== Blix is now known as Caveaus [01:01] i may have forgotten to put the i/o shield into the case during my last build, resulting in having to take out the whole mobo again :D [01:04] doh! [01:04] when you get those cheap metal ones with the little lips that need to sit on top of IO ports for grounding, sometimes i've assembled things with those picking inside a LAN port say and had to start over [01:04] very frustrating, those [01:22] yeah i'm kind of surprised they haven't improved much after all these years [01:22] i was impressed with other aspects of the case, like mounting options & cable management [07:00] hi all [11:47] Hi all [15:45] wow [15:45] that was funny [15:46] what a f*****g twit. [15:47] a small nsfw warning would have been nice. [15:49] :D [15:49] lol [15:49] he just upped the anti [15:50] oh jesus [15:50] do tell (: [15:50] wth is wrong with this guy? [15:51] some guy pasted this relating to his no flash working query https://ptpb.pw/7684 [15:51] (NSFW) [15:51] daftykins: "oh noes, pr0n doesn't work" [15:51] hmm that actually just opened as a page of unicode or some such to me [15:51] daftykins: yeah [15:52] generally the ones that aren't messing around find a better test case [15:52] lol [15:52] wget https://ptpb.pw/7684 && xdg-open 7684 [15:52] i got my 7 year old RMA'd RAM replacements today :D all in and working! [15:53] great :D [15:53] they sent it before i even sent mine, which was quite unfortunate for their policy [15:54] i could've held onto mine too if i were a naughty type of fella :P [15:59] i've been going on a lot of shopping sprees at the supermarket lately [16:00] the shopping cart looks kind of funny, it's full of stuff like a 9 year old got some money and went shopping, tons of skittles, fruit loops, whip cream cans, etc [16:01] daftykins: you had the das keyboard, right? blank keys? [16:01] i basically eat whip cream, then down some hershey's chocolate syrup [16:01] eat skittles and cake etc [16:01] you know, the healthy life [16:02] ducasse: yep [16:02] still here on a spare chair behind me, relegated to nothing right now [16:03] daftykins: happy with that? did it take much effort getting used to? [16:03] though for typing i definitely miss the cherry blues, really nice feel to those - just a shame it started playing up so much [16:03] ah i could always touch type, the only problems are if someone phoned and i had to hold it with one hand, tough to one handed type on blank - or if you want to quickly type something standing up beside the desk, that sort of thing [16:04] that was what i was thinking of. i don't look at the keys normally, but in situations like that i do. [16:05] it'd be _hilarious_ when my mother is visiting and wants to use my machine, though. that + my i3 setup = confusion :) [16:08] :) [16:08] yep friends would come over and struggled big time, i was really shocked [16:10] you could have also switched the layout to dvorak ;) [16:11] no, that's too extreme - compatibility with others for peoples systems i'd work on is more important to me [16:11] messing with someone elses settings = a huge idiot move [16:11] (such as if i was at a clients, for example) [16:12] that is _not_ nice, i agree. i was thinking more of others trying to use a blank keyboard with dvorak layout on your system. [16:14] ah right, haha [16:14] my mistake [16:14] you are right about the compatibility thing, that must slow people who normally use dvorak down, wouldn't it? i don't know if i could keep two so different layouts in muscle memory. [16:16] mmm too risky for me to consider trying [16:16] plus laptops... [16:16] ones that i daren't even imagine taking a key off of :D [16:17] no point in learning dvorak when you touch type on qwerty, i think... [16:18] i know they claim it's faster, but doubt there can be enough difference to matter. [16:24] daftykins: have fun installing the new ram, btw, i've got to either install that damned cpu cooler or get on with trying to grok routeros... [16:24] yeah, the effort to re-learn would be huge [16:24] oh i did it already, ran a pass of memtest86+ and it's all good :) [16:25] so now i have 2 x core 2 quad PCs with 8GB RAM [16:25] should be, with new sticks :) [16:25] yeah just nice to give it some work [16:25] what i was getting with the last RAM was that if i turned it off and unplugged the mains cable, in 10 minutes it wouldn't POST again [16:26] pretty sure the motherboard it was in that has blown capacitors zapped it in some really subtle way [16:26] sounds probable. i need to get some more memory for this laptop, but i need to get authentic hp sticks... [16:29] you might not have them there but i love just going to www.crucial.com/uk as they guarantee compatibility if you pick the system - free return if it doesn't work, too [16:30] i tried putting another disk (an ssd) in this laptop, and it refused to recognize it. [16:33] hmm that's weird [16:33] standard 2.5" SATA? [16:33] yup. didn't see it at all. [16:34] tried another hdd, even from another hp, but no go as it wasn't on the "approved parts" list. [16:34] ugh i find it really wrong the companies that whitelist hardware, like Lenovo/IBM with wifi cards [16:35] yep, it's just greedy to do so. [16:36] it's not like i would have expected them to support it. [16:37] i'm meant to go to the west coast again today for a restaurant meal with friends, though it's solid rain all evening and tomorrow - and i was planning to cycle [16:38] sounds like you need a new plan :) how was the bbq? [16:39] yeah pretty good thanks :) good fun showing up and parking by bike beside their house, seeing them in the kitchen through the window [16:39] pulled my phone out and messaged my friend saying "hey, look left!" [16:39] left at 1:30am and man the ride home was a strain [16:40] proper up and down valleys despite the relatively short distance [16:40] hmm yesterday i struggled to boot a 14.04.1 server DVD, might try again [16:41] i did that to a friend around the time the first matrix movie came out, sms'ed him "knock, knock" before ringing the bell. just couldn't resist :) [16:42] oh god [16:42] damn cat came in with a bird. [16:45] D: [16:47] not a dead one, to put it that way. started flapping around in the bathroom. unfortunately for the bird, she caught it again before i did :) [16:48] i'll never forget the time i heard a noise in the kitchen, went to open the door and all i saw was a bird flying straight for my face... managed to close the door again just before XD [16:50] i hate it when she does that, but it's a package deal kind of thing. most of the time i need to catch them and get them out, that can be tricky. mice are much easier :) [16:51] why wouldn't the 14.04 server image boot, btw? [16:52] mmm not sure, it just froze up during the load [16:52] just about to swap it over and have a go, although i have to be at this restaurant in 2hours :( [16:53] all these social obligations stop me from geeking out with fun things [16:53] froze while booting? [16:54] you know how server has the text installer? it was kind of the first purple screen before you'd get the first question asked, it just stopped loading there - probably a sign of the old optical drive more than anything [16:54] i might just install to the disk from a flash drive in a machine with working USB, then transplant it [16:54] ah, vc4 has the installer log, you know? [16:55] hrmm if it doesn't behave normally i tend to think it's not worthy of my time [16:58] nice, PC still boots up after being unplugged :D RAM was definitely the culprit [16:58] one small victory :) [16:59] oh no that one bad module had me chasing red herrings for ages [17:00] if memtest doesn't find anything wrong, bad memory can be painful to track down. [17:04] *nod* [17:04] why on earth is this machine swapping? vm.swappiness=1 ... [17:05] haha i changed the CMOS battery in this machine with the fried USB on the mobo, now it won't power on at all pressing the power button... [17:06] this happened with one of the other boards that no longer functions at all [17:06] oh, fun. not trying to enter bios or anything? [17:07] well, no, if not powering on... but no blinkenlichten? nothing? [17:08] ah my fault, i foolishly tried to plug in the EPS connector blind so only half of it was in XD [17:14] ooh nice it's working today [17:18] btw, do you know how much memory i should reserve for an intel gpu or how to figure it out? [17:20] depending on the model i recall there being an automatic option [17:21] then it just allocates what it needs? this manual is really not very detailed :) [17:22] yeah, i thought the modern hardware memory allocation for on-die graphics had a four letter acronym to refer to memory management [17:22] pauljw_vm: wb sir o/ [17:22] lol just booted into this 14.04.1 install, 192 packages to update, 106 are for security [17:22] i picked that because i prefer to stick to the 3.13 kernel :) [17:23] "this item allows you to empower both integrated and discrete graphics devices for the multi monitor output." that's it. wth does that even mean? [17:24] hi daftykins, everyone. don't blame you, i'm sticking with 14.04 too. too many changes in 16 and my systems here all do everything we need with 14. [17:24] exactly, 16.04 can be all up to date but it's a newer kernel with greater needs i don't require :) [17:25] setting up this system as a kind of test backup file server i might be able to sell onto a client [17:25] i enjoy it in a vm, as now, but i'm not interested in upgrading the host. [17:25] nice [17:26] got one of my fave 3ware 9650-SE hardware RAID controllers ;D [17:26] :) [17:26] there we go all upgraded \o/ even that 40GB intel value SSD is nice for package installs [17:27] ssd's are still in my future. i'll get there. [17:28] core 2 duo E7400 (2.8GHz), 4GB DDR2 @ 1066MHz and the little SSD with 14.04 server :> [17:29] 1.5GB used - mmm [17:30] that's what memory is for right? to be used... [17:30] disk space i meant there [17:30] but yes! [17:30] ah [17:30] 183MB used for RAM XD [17:31] oh guys be afraid btw, i ordered a beginners soldering kit last night [17:31] nice [17:31] yeehaw! [17:31] oh, the one from amazon? [17:31] got a few different parts in the end [17:32] by the weekend you'll be questioning what took you so long... [17:32] :D [17:32] i've still got to identify all the blown caps and probably the ones that haven't blown and order replacements though [17:40] huzzah local bus looks good for tonight :> [17:40] £1! [17:42] that's not bad [17:56] solid rain right now [17:56] oh dear it's 7pm already [17:57] better get going, then - have fun @ the restaurant! [17:57] :) [17:58] :D bus appears to be at 7:45 \o/ [17:58] rocks up at 8:07pm that'll do :> [18:02] 3ware RAID controller firmware updated \o/ [18:03] it's nice dealing with hardware that works ;) [18:04] new version of routeros, do i dare? [18:06] hehehe [18:06] not if things work ;) [18:06] right i best head off folks, catch you later \o [18:08] putting that one off until tomorrow, i need a couple of the fixes. enjoy, daftykins! [21:24] tgm4883, well uh idk, maybe tell me what can I do to improve that PPA thingy. Also about the going through the terminal.. well um, you can just selected the outer text and copy the list as a command which can be just pasted into the terminal directly, or copy only the inner stuff and browse through nautilus, open via gedit, and paste. [21:25] OverCoder: you can't do it via nautilus unless you launch nautilus with root privs [21:25] o right. I don't even use Ubuntu anyways :< [21:26] I mean I only use Ubuntu Server, so whatever. duh I feel sad after I spent these 2 days making the website :< [21:26] OverCoder: The ppa portion should place them in separate files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d. Since you have to go to the terminal anyway, you could just give it the 'apt-add-repository' command since that is cleaner than adding it to sources.list [21:26] Don't feel sad, I'm sure it was a good learning exercise [21:27] For the regular sources.list, I don't think you're going to find a better way to do that than the software sources Gui [21:28] You could see if that is implemented in a command line or ncurses way though [21:28] ....ah [21:28] well that's awesome [21:28] Gonna go implement that. [21:28] Thanks :) [21:28] OverCoder: yea apt-add-repositories is a much nicer way to do the PPAs [21:29] OverCoder: I do wonder how you are coming up with your list of PPAs and which ones are "trusted" [21:29] thanks :3 [23:02] although if you're going to a PPA to begin with you're probably straying off the tracks of using ubuntu server already [23:02] :P [23:07] tgm4883: lol [23:07] dax: I mean seriously, you guys just said that [23:21] ? [23:30] dax: IDK what you guys ususally do with that, but might want to keep an eye on monsterdemon [23:32] * dax looks up [23:32] daftykins: someone had trouble with LTS version numbers and basic math [23:32] :D [23:33] tgm4883: usually would ban them, but they /quit already :| [23:33] they did it in ##linux too, looks like [23:34] dax: that's why I need banning powers :) [23:34] ah well #ubuntu only maintains ops from incompatible timezones so that these folk can get away with it, y'see [23:35] must be tough to get everyone to meet up for the blood oath, i guess [23:35] we actually replaced the blood with salt, since there's a plentiful source of it around these days [23:36] tgm4883: yeah. or i need to get a job where i won't be distracted by bloody windows licensing [23:36] been looking at this stuff for days and it's still ridiculous [23:36] no, it's only salt if i wanted back in... i could point out your flaws but you guys like your little private club [23:37] lol [23:37] you're too busy doing your day job to even handle your task as an op :) [23:53] see this is the problem dax, you're probably one of the most approachable and you're still clamming up [23:53] you've got too much of an us vs. them approach toward the volunteers when you should all be working together === OverCoder is now known as root === root is now known as OverCoder