[00:52] <fifty-sevenC> Heyyo
[00:52] <fifty-sevenC> There is a bug in the installer for Ubuntu when used for Chromebooks. If I install ubuntu-server and install the ubuntu-mate meta package will it end up the same?
[01:41] <ouroumov> fifty-sevenC, maybe ask in #ubuntu ?
[01:51] <fifty-sevenC> Asking that appears to have started a flamewar. :)
[01:59] <YankDownUnder> fifty-sevenC: It'll be the same...with the exception of the way that the base is installed, really...it's simple enough to test out, if anything else.
[02:13] <xlindsay> i have a question: when i suspend and restart pc i sometimes lose wifi. does that happen to anyone else?
[02:14] <xlindsay> loses*
[02:15] <YankDownUnder> xlindsay: Yes.
[02:29] <xlindsay> is the problem reported?
[06:16] <h8r1dx4> Hi guys , Id like to get involved more with Mate , where do I start ? I cant really code besides Python . But I use mate Every day and rate I should give something back. Do you guys need Testers ?
[07:00] <Codfection> u mean invovle in open source mate project
[07:00] <Codfection> involve*
[07:02] <ouroumov__> ?
[07:05] <h8r1dx4> jip :-D
[07:26] <sarwar> how to load new softwares
[07:27] <h8r1dx4> Do you want to know how to install software ?
[07:29] <sarwar> yes I want to draw a sketch.
[07:29] <h8r1dx4> Gimp will work for that
[07:30] <sarwar> OK I try..Thanks
[07:31] <h8r1dx4> do you want me to tell you how to install it ?
[07:32] <sarwar> I think Gimp is already installed. first I check then let you know.
[07:32] <h8r1dx4> cool
[08:11] <andy____> hey can anybody tell me that how i can update my all drivers ?
[08:14] <andy____> hey please anyone tell me how can i update my drivers as video quality in ubuntu is way poorer than to win 10 in my system
[08:15] <h8r1dx4> try apt-get update and then apt-get upgrade
[08:16] <h8r1dx4> this will update all software and drivers
[08:17] <andy____> this is doing nothing in terminal
[08:18] <h8r1dx4> try sudo apt-get update
[08:18] <h8r1dx4> it will ask for your password
[08:18] <andy____> yes after that ?
[08:19] <h8r1dx4> then sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:19] <andy____> then ?
[08:20] <andy____> do i have to reboot ?
[08:20] <h8r1dx4> did it install any software ?
[08:20] <andy____> nothing much
[08:21] <h8r1dx4> mate-display-properties
[08:22] <andy____> monitor
[08:22] <h8r1dx4> can you set it higher there ?
[08:22] <andy____> it was already set to max
[08:23] <andy____> but still video quality color production is poor
[08:23] <h8r1dx4> then you might need nvedia / Ati Drivers , not really my area
[08:25] <andy____> okay btw i tried updating nvidia drivers but got error saying having broken packages or not installed
[08:30] <h8r1dx4> you can try sudo apt-get -f install to fix broken packages
[08:30] <ouroumov_> andy____,
[08:31] <ouroumov_> Did you enable the proprietary driver in Welcome -> Getting Started -> Driver?
[08:31] <ouroumov_> Also what do you mean "Video Quality"?
[08:31] <ouroumov_> damn
[09:41] <wang> Hello\
[09:41] <ouroumov__> hey wang
[09:42] <wang> Are you chinese?
[09:43] <ouroumov__> no
[09:44] <wang> How can i creat an icon on desktop in this system?
[09:44] <wang> ubuntu mate
[09:44] <ouroumov__> right click -> Create Launcher
[09:46] <wang> I use chinese
[09:46] <ouroumov__> !cn | wang
[09:46] <ouroumov__> If you need help in your native language, go there
[09:46] <wang> let me try
[09:46] <ouroumov__> I don't know the chinese equivalent of "Create Launcher", sorry :/
[09:48] <wang> Thank you
[09:52] <ubuntu-mate> Hello :)
[09:53] <ouroumov__> hello ubuntu-mate
[09:53] <ubuntu-mate> man this linux thing is better than windows
[09:56] <ubuntu-mate> coming back to Ubuntu Mate from Linux Mint
[09:56] <ouroumov__> yup
[09:57] <ubuntu-mate> <-- Greetings from Australia
[09:58] <ouroumov__> hunterFamily, greetings from France
[10:47] <sslove> oi cara
[15:15] <hansacker> hello everyone
[15:16] <hansacker> i installed ubuntu mate today and installed "xscreensaver-data-extra xscreensaver-gl-extra" to get extra screensavers. now there's only a black screen in screensaver-mode even when i selected one of the default ubuntu-mate-screensavers.. any ideas?
[15:37] <Akuli> hansacker, i believe you can run xscreensaver from a terminal if you want to use that instead of the default mate one
[15:43] <hansacker> Akuli: i would like to use the mate-screensaver because its pretty easy by default and it worked before installing the new screensavers. in the config menu theres even now a long list of all the screensavers including the default ones but - as i said - black screen
[15:44] <Akuli> you could remove whatever you've installed and hope everything works... other than that i dont know how to help
[15:45] <ouroumov> flexiondotorg, sorry to bother you. Can you take a look at this? https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/possible-memory-leak-in-mate-panel/7717/15 There's a good chance mate-panel and possibly eom are leaking memory all over the place in the LTS. I don't know what to do regarding a possible bug report. File against both?
[15:46] <flexiondotorg> ouroumov, Yes, file against both. But will require evidence of a leak.
[15:46] <ouroumov> Okay. Launchpad or github?
[15:46] <hansacker> Akuli: hm. i would like to use some of the new screensavers, so removing them is not a valid optin
[15:46] <Akuli> ouroumov, is that 16.04_
[15:46] <Akuli> ?
[15:47] <ouroumov> Akuli, yes.
[15:47] <Akuli> so 14.04 is fine?
[15:47] <Akuli> somehow i guessed it :) no surprise to me
[15:47] <ouroumov> Dunno, haven't attempted to reproduce on 14.04
[15:47] <ouroumov> Is 14.04 using MATE 1.12.1?
[15:48] <Akuli> 1.8.2
[15:48] <Akuli> :)
[15:48] <ouroumov> k
[16:02] <hansacker> i have another question. im running ubuntu mate on a notebook and i'm used to do a douple-finger-click on the touchpad to paste the clipboard.. this does not work and even the gui-tool to configure the mouse behavior does not perform the action i set
[16:02] <hansacker> then i added a startprogramm "/usr/bin/synclient TapButton2=2" and that does not work, too. i would like to thank someone for help
[16:17] <fifty-sevenC> Why is there no 14.04.5 installer for Ubuntu Mate?
[16:21] <Akuli> fifty-sevenC, there is
[16:21] <Akuli> you just need to find it
[16:21] <fifty-sevenC> ??? The downloader points to 14.04.2
[16:22] <Akuli> oh
[16:22] <Akuli> then you can install from a mini.iso, or just upgrade
[16:22] <fifty-sevenC> Well I am hoping I can upgrade. :)
[16:22] <fifty-sevenC> 3.16 is an old kernel.
[16:22] <fifty-sevenC> Old kernel, new hardware. Eyyy
[16:23] <fifty-sevenC> On another note, I'm going to try to install 14.04 just to I can upgrade it to 16.04 in hopes I can bypass the gfxboot bug
[16:23] <fifty-sevenC> https://ubuntu-mate.org/trusty/
[16:28] <ouroumov> flexiondotorg, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mate/+bug/1608599 && https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mate/+bug/1608603
[16:33] <fifty-sevenC> Ok, gfxboot workaround. Use 14.04 live disk. gfxboot error complaint type help, then press enter and it boots. lmfao
[16:33] <fifty-sevenC> and no trackpad
[16:34] <fifty-sevenC> Old kernel is old :(
[16:54] <flexiondotorg> Right, I'm off. Bye...
[16:54] <ouroumov> Bye
[16:59] <DarkPsydeLord> Hello!
[17:06] <ouroumov> hi DarkPsydeLord
[17:07] <DarkPsydeLord> how are you?
[17:08] <ouroumov> I'm good. You?
[17:12] <DarkPsydeLord> well working... (sort of)
[17:13] <DarkPsydeLord> you know i usually take a few mins per hour to distract myself from code and sysadmin
[17:13] <ouroumov> ^^
[17:20] <DarkPsydeLord> anyway im just drinking tomato juice and reading some cache to check if i can be helpful at all XD
[17:20] <ouroumov> reading cache?
[17:22] <DarkPsydeLord> sorry log im thinking about other things hahahaha
[17:23] <ouroumov> ^^
[17:23] <ouroumov> What company do you work for DarkPsydeLord? (If you can say)
[17:25] <DarkPsydeLord> well i work at 2 different places 1 is a mistery so i cant say anything about it (its not cia or nasa) just commercial stuff
[17:26] <ouroumov> SpaceX!
[17:27] <DarkPsydeLord> and im the IT manager of a shoe company yes it sounds weird but its true
[17:27] <ouroumov> lol
[17:27] <ouroumov> Okay ^^
[17:27] <DarkPsydeLord> the frye show company
[17:27] <DarkPsydeLord> shoe not show!
[17:27] <DarkPsydeLord> lol
[17:28] <TwoNotes> Upgrade 15.10 to 16.04.1 went perfectly.  Even the WiFi dongle works.  w00t
[17:29] <DarkPsydeLord> NICE!
[17:29] <TwoNotes> Now I should not have to do that again for a few years (hopes)
[17:29] <DarkPsydeLord> but its been a while since i encountered any issue with upgrading
[17:29] <DarkPsydeLord> or wifi
[17:29] <DarkPsydeLord> specially on any buntu
[17:30] <TwoNotes> All those nay-sayers a few months ago about what a dog 16.04 was didn't know what they were doing
[17:30] <DarkPsydeLord> lol
[17:31] <DarkPsydeLord> well i had a few troubles related to wifi in arch a few months ago but well that was you know my mistake
[17:31] <DarkPsydeLord> as almost everything i do in arch
[17:31] <TwoNotes> It is easy to 'make mistakes' with Arch...
[17:31] <DarkPsydeLord> common mistakes
[17:32] <TwoNotes> My headless x86 file server box and Rpi3 still run Arch.  I don't touch them now that they work
[17:33] <DarkPsydeLord> well im always curious about aspects of linux so my arch machines are usually learning machines
[17:33] <DarkPsydeLord> and i break em often
[17:33] <DarkPsydeLord> hahahaha
[17:34] <DarkPsydeLord> *cough* every 15 days *cough*
[17:34] <TwoNotes> Is it possible to do an Ubuntu upgrade using a downloaded iso instead of over the network - it took hours.
[17:35] <ouroumov> Depends on how you set up your partitions
[17:35] <ouroumov> If you have a separate /home partition then yes
[17:35] <DarkPsydeLord> ^
[17:35] <TwoNotes> I don't mean replace the system with a new one.  I mean keeping all installed apps and configs
[17:36] <TwoNotes> I always have a separate /home
[17:36] <ouroumov> Well in that case, not that I know of
[17:38] <DarkPsydeLord> well as a linux user i will tell no upgrade from live iso is possible
[17:38] <DarkPsydeLord> and geek from hell i will say
[17:39] <DarkPsydeLord> theoretically is possible if you know the packages that must be upgraded!
[17:39] <DarkPsydeLord> but ofc that is a long long list
[17:40] <DarkPsydeLord> which is way easier using net install to handle that for you
[17:40] <Akuli> netinstall isos are awesome
[17:40] <DarkPsydeLord> and having separate home folder make the whole thing easier for a clean install
[17:40] <Akuli> just install and everything's up to date
[17:41] <DarkPsydeLord> indeed!
[17:54] <TwoNotes> I just worry about some outage hitting in the middle of it.  With an iso on a DVD I know the ISPcan't break my upgrade.
[19:12] <Xinerama> What's up people?
[21:04] <APoliTech> hi all!
[21:46] <nomic> hi yankdownunder
[21:49] <YankDownUnder> nomic: Peace
[21:58] <kodi-1> I have a problem with screen res on my resbarry pi mate installation
[21:59] <kodi-1> can someone assist
[21:59] <kodi-1> ?
[22:06] <nomic> is your screen display less than the screen width
[22:06] <nomic> kodi-1
[22:07] <nomic> http://www.opentechguides.com/how-to/article/raspberry-pi/28/raspi-display-setting.html   kodi-1
[22:08] <nomic> disabling overscan
[22:08] <nomic> may be your problem kodi-1
[22:09] <kodi-1> yes ... i saw something about it
[22:09] <nomic> i had problem where picture was < monitor size
[22:09] <nomic> I disabled overscan ^ re article
[22:09] <kodi-1> but the file doesn't look like in the post, so I didn't wat to do bad things ...
[22:09] <nomic> rebooted .. fine
[22:09] <nomic> no
[22:10] <nomic> Uncomment the #disable_overscan=1 (Remove the #)
[22:10] <nomic> you back up file first
[22:10] <nomic> isn't problem
[22:10] <nomic> if your screen shows less than monitor size
[22:10] <nomic> that is your problem
[22:13] <kodi-1> found it
[22:13] <kodi-1> I will soon reboot and check
[22:13] <kodi-1> THANKS
[22:14] <nomic> come backk - report
[22:14] <nomic> if ok