[00:00] <ross`> I downloaded from archive.ubuntu.com
[00:00] <lordcirth> ross`, and did you verify the hash?
[00:00] <ross`> did not find a hash to verify
[00:00] <ross`> on the page
[00:00] <lordcirth> ross`, well, when the installer starts, there's a grub option to verify.  Do that.
[00:01] <ross`> there absolutely is not a grub boot first
[00:01] <ross`> it boots right into the kernel straight away
[00:01] <lordcirth> They really should have the hash more visible though.  They've gone too far trying to hide complexity
[00:01] <lordcirth> ross`, which iso is this?
[00:01] <lordcirth> Can you link where you got it
[00:01] <ross`> it's not an iso, it's a xen kernel.. one sec
[00:02] <ross`> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/xenial-updates/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/xen/
[00:02] <ross`> the vmlinuz and the initrd.gz
[00:02] <ross`> kernel and ramdisk
[00:02] <ross`> xen can boot them fine but it always segfaults randomly somewhere during the installer
[00:02] <ross`> never at the same place.
[00:02] <ross`> it just goes into a segmentation fault loop
[00:03] <lordcirth> ross`, so what exactly are you installing Ubuntu on?
[00:03] <ross`> a xen virtual machine
[00:03] <lordcirth> Ah ok.
[00:04] <lordcirth> Sorry I thought you were trying to install a xen hypervisor
[00:04] <ross`> no, I'm installing ubuntu
[00:04] <lordcirth> ross`, paravirt VM?
[00:04] <ross`> no, pvh
[00:04] <ross`> http://scpb.in/dejci
[00:05] <lordcirth> ross`, is the host 16.04 and up to date?
[00:06] <ross`> The host is gentoo 4.4.6 with all the correct kernel features.
[00:06] <ross`> If that were the issue the thing wouldn't even boot
[00:06] <ross`> it boots up, and gets to different places in the ubuntu installer just fine, I can also drop down to the ubuntu shell fine.
[00:06] <ross`> The it gets into a segmentation fault loop
[00:06] <ross`> Funny enough it has never segfaulted inside the installer shell
[00:07] <ross`> it's segfaulted at network initialization, at hostname configuration, at repo selection, at base package installation.
[00:07] <zykotick9> ross`: have you considered, this might be a xen problem?  /me knows nothin' of xen
[00:07] <NSABear> QUICK I INSTALLED UBUNTU SERVER 16.04 ON MY DEDI AND NOW I NEED TO HARDEN IT
[00:07] <NSABear> wat do?
[00:08] <ross`> zykotick9: I have considered that, but xen is one of those things that rarely breaks and is typically very stable.
[00:08] <NSABear> I'm disabling password based logins requiring keys switching default ssh port
[00:08] <NSABear> I'm dropping all traffic on ports that aren't in use
[00:08] <lordcirth> NSABear, I find shorewall to be an excellent firewall
[00:08] <NSABear> lordcirth, I'm using UFW
[00:08] <lordcirth> NSABear, ok, that works too if you like it
[00:09] <NSABear> the box is sitting in montreal
[00:09] <NSABear> It's also headless.
[00:09] <lordcirth> NSABear, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticSecurityUpdates
[00:10] <NSABear> Ty
[00:10] <Mojtaba> Do you know how can I fix the problem in Navigation shortcuts? (Move window to workspace 1) does nothing!
[00:10] <NSABear> I'm mostly worreid about someone breaking in right now becuase my hosting provider (OVH / SoYouStart) is scanned 24/7 by botnets.
[00:10] <lordcirth> NSABear, after that, you've got the OS basics, it's mostly a matter of the application you're exposing.
[00:10] <NSABear> I'm thinking about Jailing minecraft and mumble
[00:10] <lordcirth> NSABear, pretty sure they all are.
[00:10] <NSABear> Definitely going to jail nginx
[00:11] <NSABear> lordcirth, oh no, you have no idea how bad it is. Not even 10 seconds after coming online and listening for SSH connections it's under attack
[00:11] <ross`> NSABear: you should relax, you have to be running something vulnerable for it to matter.
[00:11] <lordcirth> NSABear, what are you using for jails
[00:11] <NSABear> lordcirth, lxc is what I'm looking at, ross` 0days exist. I'd rather not learn the hard way
[00:11] <tgm4883> sounds like you need fail2ban
[00:11] <lordcirth> NSABear, sounds like my workplace. ~5 min before ssh root login attempts.
[00:11] <ross`> NSABear: passwordless ssh is a good idea, but otherwise don't worry.
[00:12] <lordcirth> NSABear, lxc is great, however they are called containers, not really jails.
[00:12] <NSABear> tgm4883, would fail2ban matter with ssh keys only?
[00:12] <ross`> NSABear: you just mentioned you are running minecraft on this server. I'm going to assume getting hacked is simply annoying.
[00:12] <NSABear> ross`, It also has a VPN on it
[00:12] <ross`> Why don't you make a tar backup and then reinstall if it gets hacked?
[00:12] <NSABear> Reinstall costs $15 :|
[00:12] <lordcirth> ross`, minecraft server getting hacked is annoying.  But if the attack gets into anything else that's bad.
[00:12] <NSABear> Confidental data can be breached
[00:12] <ross`> NSABear: a masquerading VPN or a priveleged VPN that has access to private networks?
[00:12] <tgm4883> NSABear: fail2ban would block repeated attack attempts
[00:12] <Ben64> NSABear: if you have ssh keys those dumb ssh bots won't be able to get in
[00:12] <NSABear> ross`, It's going to just passthrough to the web and DNS sinkhole
[00:13] <ross`> Why are you running a minecraft server on something that if it gets hacked confidential information cna be breached..
[00:13] <NSABear> Right now I haven't put anything confidential on it.
[00:13] <lordcirth> NSABear, unprivileged LXC containers are the way to go, IMHO
[00:13] <ross`> differentiate between your work and fun servers
[00:13] <NSABear> Minecraft and the VPN will be seperated with time. the VPN is more of a experiment.
[00:14] <NSABear> ross`, my host allows me to install proxmox and virtualize on the same box with 16 different IP's.
[00:14] <ross`> if it's an experimental VPN, probably just a masquerading vpn so that you can use it as a proxy, don't worry if you get hacked...
[00:14] <NSABear> Any reccomended way to check if the box has been rootkited / hacked / etc?
[00:14] <ross`> Look, unless your VPN has dhcpd configured for production servers you have absolutely nothing to worry about.
[00:15] <ross`> What are they going to hack, your laptop?
[00:15] <Ben64> NSABear: rkhunter maybe, but really just stay aware of what's going on
[00:15] <el_cordoba> When creating mount directories should root be the owner, the user, or should a group be used?
[00:15] <NSABear> ross`, getting hacked in general sucks.
[00:15] <Ben64> el_cordoba: depends what your goal is
[00:15] <NSABear> Luckily none of my linux boxes have been comped on the past but I've also never had a SSH server facing the web
[00:16] <NSABear> Also a funny tidbit / offtopic: I gave my Ubuntu box the hostname "gentoo"
[00:16] <ross`> NSABear: if you have set it to only allow ssh via RSA/DSA key you are fine.
[00:16] <Mojtaba> Do you know how can I fix the problem in Navigation shortcuts? (Move window to workspace 1) does nothing!
[00:16] <NSABear> ross`, I'm looking into adding 2FA with Google Authenticator
[00:16] <ross`> NSABear: that makes it less secure actually
[00:16] <NSABear> ross`, go on
[00:17] <Ben64> ssh keys are fine
[00:17] <orlock> NSABear: If you have to ask, then rkhunter would be a place to start
[00:17] <ross`> NSABear: Well google knows everything but your primary authentication method, and after they provide you with 2 factor authentication for a period of time they can break your primary through beyesian differencing
[00:17] <orlock> NSABear: but honestly, just assume that if they wanted to be in, they would be in, and that you are very boring and nobody really cares anyway
[00:17] <ross`> You are basically helping google break in each incremental time you use the auth
[00:17] <NSABear> ross`, I doubt Google wants in my server.
[00:18] <ross`> NSABear: just sayin'
[00:18] <Ben64> nobody wants in your server
[00:18] <NSABear> I'd be using 2FA with SSH keys
[00:18] <ross`> NSABear: use an ssh key and stop worrying about it
[00:18] <Ben64> nobody cares, as orlock said
[00:18] <ross`> You don't need 2 factor
[00:18] <ross`> You just said you are running minecraft and a vpn on this server
[00:18] <NSABear> Ben64, I'm not saying anything I've done but put it this way. Minecraft hosts = 1 - 10gb/s with 32+gb of ram dual 8core xeons...
[00:18] <pathworker> 2fa is apparrently insecure, I reaD AN ARTICLE ABOUT IT RECENTLY.
[00:18] <ross`> No one will care.
[00:19] <orlock> pathworker: you mean 2fa via sms..
[00:19] <Ben64> NSABear: so?
[00:19] <pathworker> oops sorry for caps.lol
[00:19] <NSABear> Ben64, great for malicious uses.
[00:19] <orlock> pathworker: and it has the potential to be insecure, not that it always is
[00:19] <ross`> pathworker: read my comment above
[00:19] <toxik> The only insecure part of 2fa is the implementation
[00:19] <Ben64> NSABear: nobody cares, really.
[00:19] <pathworker> could be that yes not sure if that aplies globally to all variants though, I just skimmed through the article.
[00:19] <NSABear> Ben64, That's not how I thin kwhen it comes to security.
[00:20] <Ben64> NSABear: the ssh bots just try common user/pass combinations, you're worrying about literally nothing
[00:20] <tgm4883> ross`: any articles on this that you can point to?
[00:20] <orlock> change your ssh port or use fail2ban
[00:20] <orlock> or
[00:20] <lordcirth> NSABear, ssh keys is enough for casual use.  LXC containers will make it very secure, and I like the ease of management.  There's nothing else you need.
[00:20] <NSABear> Ben64, oh no, I've had targeted brute forces on my Mumblebox
[00:20] <ross`> tgm4883: nothing specific comes to mind, no.
[00:20] <orlock> WHOIS every single IP that tries to log in
[00:20] <orlock> call up the owner
[00:20] <orlock> and ask them to stop
[00:20] <Ben64> NSABear: and mumble is ssh now?
[00:20] <lordcirth> orlock, that is exceptionally labor-intensive.
[00:20] <tgm4883> ross`: anything that I should try googling then?
[00:21] <NSABear> Ben64, I have a seperate box running mumble currently. It's being migrated over.
[00:21] <lordcirth> Ben64, it's a service you don't want people breaking into.
[00:21] <NSABear> It's why I call it my mumble box. it has a ssh daemon
[00:21] <ross`> NSABear: people have tried explaing this point multiple times: an open facing ssh server is only insecure if you are using a simple password.
[00:21] <orlock> lordcirth: And i've spoken to people from HP and Redhat from doing it, amongst others
[00:21] <Ben64> lordcirth: it wasn't the discussion at all
[00:21] <ross`> NSABear: use an ssh key and get over it.
[00:21] <NSABear> ross`, I'm doing that.
[00:21] <ross`> Otherwise bring down teh networking interface if you rae really worried.
[00:21] <NSABear> ross`, I'm considering the 2FA for if my key gets comped
[00:21] <ross`> No further protection is required.
[00:21] <lordcirth> NSABear, why would it?
[00:21] <tgm4883> NSABear: I'd add fail2ban too
[00:21] <ross`> Your keys will not get comped
[00:21] <orlock> if you key gets 0wned
[00:21] <orlock> then it doesnt matter
[00:21] <NSABear> lordcirth, Shit happens.
[00:22] <orlock> they probably have a camera in your house
[00:22] <tgm4883> NSABear: put a password on your key
[00:22] <orlock> pointing at your keyboard
[00:22] <ross`> NSABear: 2f isn't going to help you if your key gets comped.
[00:22] <Ben64> then unplug your computer
[00:22] <orlock> watching your passphrases
[00:22] <Ben64> because nothing is secure
[00:22] <ross`> If your key gets stolen someone REALLY wants your ass, and you are probably going to be killed within 12 hours of them getting your key and not needing you around.
[00:22] <lordcirth> Personally I'd be much more worried about a workstation compromise than a server one.
[00:22] <lordcirth> which would be needed to get your key
[00:22] <toxik> If someone can comp your key, then 2fa is pointless. You'll have larger problems than that.
[00:22] <NSABear> ross`, AFAIK with 2FA Even if I have the SSH key I can't login until I complete the second challenge
[00:23] <NSABear> toxik, true
[00:23] <NSABear> It's just extra peice of mind for me.
[00:23] <Ben64> then do whatever you want
[00:23] <lordcirth> NSABear, yeah, but they got your key by rooting your PC, which you're logging in with.
[00:23] <pathworker> if possible revoke keys and regenerate new ones..just a thaught.
[00:23] <ross`> NSABear: 2f makes your system less secure. Don't worry about it. 2f is just gonna make it more annoying for you to login as you have to go through more annoying stuff.
[00:23] <ross`> pathworker: that's a good idea
[00:24] <Ben64> dunno why people come in here, ask questions, then ignore the suggestions and do it their own way instead
[00:24] <ross`> NSABear: what you should do is script a system that uses a different ssh key every 15 minutes.
[00:24] <NSABear> Ben64, you're the guy who exagerates.
[00:24] <ross`> NSABear: that is way way way way more secure than 2f
[00:24] <Ben64> NSABear: where
[00:24] <ross`> that means they have a 15 minute window to crack a randomly generated key
[00:24] <NSABear> ross`, I considered that years ago
[00:24] <NSABear> ross`, I realized how stupid that was.
[00:24] <orlock> NSABear: If you are really worried.. stop using Ubuntu, and go and install OpenBSD instead
[00:24] <ross`> how is that stupid?
[00:24] <NSABear> It would be a fun challenge to write
[00:24] <bazhang> lets take this over to ##security please NSABear
[00:24] <bazhang> this is far afield from ubuntu support
[00:24] <NSABear> ok back to ubuntu
[00:25] <NSABear> How do you guys feel about using LXC unprivledged containers on Ubuntu
[00:25] <ross`> NSABear: lordcirth already recommended that
[00:26] <NSABear> ross`, I wanted to get more opinions on it
[00:26] <ross`> NSABear: now go use google, and come back with specific questions
[00:26] <NSABear> ross`, would you mind if I link you my OpenSSH config to ensure I'm not doing anything wrong.
[00:28] <ross`> NSABear: sure, go for it.
[00:31] <NSABear> Does anyone know if the knockd daemon that had encrypted strings is actively maintained on Ubuntu?
[00:32] <ross`> NSABear: I'm not sure why but I don't see a file
[00:32] <NSABear> I'll resent it in a few mins
[00:32] <NSABear> I'm adding more tweaks to the file
[00:33] <ludat> hi everyone, yesterday I updated my sister's ubuntu from 14.04 to 16.04 and now it a lot slower
[00:34] <ludat> with htop I've seen four processes kidle_inject taking up a lot of CPU if that could help
[00:34] <Caveaus> what is kidle_inject?
[00:35] <ludat> from what I read it's a kernel process that forces the CPU to be idle so it doesn't overheats
[00:35] <ludat> overheat*
[00:36] <Caveaus> how does the cpu go idle during use?
[00:36] <Caveaus> that doesn't make sense to me
[00:38] <ludat> http://askubuntu.com/questions/482307/kidle-inject-uses-cpu-power-without-apparent-reason
[00:38] <ludat> just found that and kidle seems to not be an issue
[00:39] <ludat> I was just wondering if someone else experienced something similar
[00:39] <Caveaus> not an issue? im reading it spikes the cpu usage
[00:39] <Caveaus> on askubuntu
[00:40] <iwhb4u> My gnome menú and status bar disappeared
[00:47] <YankDownUnder> iwhb4u: Have you logged out and back in again to see if that resolves the issue?
[00:49] <Aprexer> I currently have a problem that shows up when I try to upgrade ubuntu or run a script that wants to use aptitude http://pastebin.com/2RQk6PCF
[00:51] <Caveaus> try sudo apt-get purge
[00:52] <Caveaus> aprexer
[00:52] <Aprexer> I don't really want to purge apache2 since I'll have to reconfigure everything again
[00:53] <Aprexer> It's something to do with dpkg
[00:53] <Ben64> sudo apt-get install apache2 apache2.2-common
[00:53] <Caveaus> ok try removing packages and reinstalling?
[00:54] <Caveaus> sudo dpkg -P apache2.2-common
[00:54] <Caveaus> sudo dpkg -P apache2-mpm-worker
[00:54] <Caveaus> sudo dpkg -P apache2
[00:54] <Aprexer> Ben64 same sort of result http://pastebin.com/RLFAJzLx
[00:55] <Caveaus> to remove them
[00:55] <Caveaus> then just reinstall those packages
[00:55] <Aprexer> dpkg: dependency problems prevent removal of apache2:
[00:56] <NSABear> Guys
[00:56] <NSABear> Just wanted to report a bug, you can't use FDE through the ubuntu installer without going to TTY1 and doing sudo swapoff -a as it complains about a non encrypted swap partition
[00:56] <Ben64> Aprexer: what version of ubuntu
[00:56] <Caveaus> you try it as root?
[00:56] <NSABear> This bug exists across The *buntu flavours Debian, Mint.
[00:57] <Aprexer> ben64 15.04
[00:57] <Aprexer> Just to add libapache2-mod-php5 depends on apache2 (>= 2.4); however:
[00:57] <Ben64> Aprexer: 15.04 is no longer supported
[00:58] <Aprexer> Ben64, oh thanks. Didn't know that. I'll see if I can upgrade to 16.04
[00:59] <Ben64> !eolupgrade | Aprexer
[00:59] <Ben64> 15.04 lost support in February
[00:59] <Ben64> might be easier to install 16.04 fresh now
[01:00] <Aprexer> If I did, what would you recommend I use to back everything up and restore it to the fresh 16.04 machine.
[01:00] <Ben64> rsync
[01:00] <Aprexer> Does rsync to configs and packages?
[01:01] <Ben64> rsync copies whatever you tell it to
[01:01] <Caveaus> you does it config?
[01:01] <Caveaus> it copies exactly everything the way it ws
[01:01] <Caveaus> was*
[01:01] <Ben64> packages aren't going to be transferrable between releases
[01:01] <Ben64> you can grab a list of installed packages and feed that to apt, but some might not exist anymore
[01:01] <Aprexer> Ah, I see. I'll start a new server, thanks.
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[01:04] <Caveaus> why did they say that
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[01:04] -{AWAY}-:#ubuntu- #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU!
[01:04] -{AWAY}-:#ubuntu- #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU!
[01:05] -Icarus-7:#ubuntu- #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU!
[01:05] -Icarus-7:#ubuntu- #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU!
[01:05] <Extreminador> fucking stop with the otices noobs
[01:05] -Dj_SlasH:#ubuntu- #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU!
[01:05] -Dj_SlasH:#ubuntu- #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU! #WRONGPLANET FUCK UBUNTU!
[01:05] <Extreminador> why the hell you guys allow this
[01:05] <Caveaus> why are they saying that?
[01:05] -[ZiGUe_zAGuE]:#ubuntu- #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLAN
[01:05] -dodoc_21:#ubuntu- #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET
[01:05] -charla286:#ubuntu- #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANE
[01:06] -dodoc_21:#ubuntu- #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET
[01:06] -charla286:#ubuntu- #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANE
[01:06] <Ben64> they mistakingly think that anyone here cares
[01:06] <toxik> >Omg I found ircspammer.exe, maybe I'll go try to disrupt the first IRC channel I see
[01:07] -Tds`:#ubuntu- #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS T
[01:07] <Caveaus> what's so wrong with ubuntu?
[01:07] -bambie251:#ubuntu- #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANE
[01:07] -^[MaRy]^:#ubuntu- #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET 
[01:07] -Zulf-e-Pits:#ubuntu- #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANE
[01:07] -sebast-20:#ubuntu- #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET 
[01:07] <Ben64> Caveaus: it's just the biggest target on freenode (i think)
[01:08] <toxik> Nothing is wrong with Ubuntu, it's just children being children
[01:08] -IC{away}:#ubuntu- #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SA
[01:08] -Ada__32:#ubuntu- #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SA
[01:08] -[S]plit:#ubuntu- #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET S
[01:08] -Alone_Male:#ubuntu- #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANET SAYS THAT WITH UBUNTU YOU LOSE. #WRONGPLANE
[01:08] <orlock> Isnt wrongplanet an aspie thing?
[01:08] <Caveaus> well they dont just say this cause its fun
[01:08] <Freman> plenty wrong with ubuntu, but no more so than any other distro, just in different ways :D
[01:08] <toxik> Something like that
[01:08]  * Freman says as he waits all day for emerge to update some packages :D
[01:10] <Caveaus> ok, so what's wrongplanet?
[01:10] <dax> Caveaus: a channel that somebody's currently mad at. best to just ignore that nonsense
[01:10] <dax> spammer trying to get attention and get people mad at a channel they dislike
[01:10] <potatersalad> The people in that channel are not very helpful
[01:10] <Caveaus> So, what's the channel about?
[01:10] <Caveaus> dax: thanks for insight
[01:11] <dax> It doesn't matter. Anyways, back to Ubuntu support :)
[01:11] <el_cordoba> Ben64: the mount directories are for a home samba server on my personal machine that maybe one other person might use
[01:13] <potatersalad> In the interest of making this chat room more off topic, I have a question. I had panic attacks in 2011-spring 2012 for a few months and again last month. I'm turning 28. I have existential crises and ask myself dumb, deep questions which provoke anxiety and more attacks. Is there anyone here, who is older, who grew out of this phase and became mor
[01:13] <potatersalad> e "normal"?
[01:13] <dax> potatersalad: Ubuntu technical support only here. #ubuntu-offtopic for other questions (though we tend to refer stuff like that to a psychologist)
[01:13] <ktomz> potatersalad, a hospital and a psychatrist might help...
[01:14] <MoxygeRen> YankDownUnder: yes. I did that two or three times.
[01:14] <el_cordoba> Ben64: sorry for the delayed response I had to figure out what I was doing
[01:14] <potatersalad> psychologists/psychiatrists are great people. They are also non-libre, closed source ,proprietary technology, and not free as in beer.
[01:14] <MoxygeRen> YankDownUnder: I am under another user account in the same machine
[01:15] <toxik> Biology=Technology
[01:20] <el_cordoba> In case I waited too long: When creating mount directories should root be the owner, the user, or should a group be used? Sry for the repeat. IRCNoob
[01:22] <Caveaus> wait, you can make directories with all og them?
[01:22] <Caveaus> What are you asking?
[01:23] <Caveaus> You mean mountinf file systems, not directories?
[01:23] <lordcirth> el_cordoba, the directory you're going to mount to?  If it's for a user, chown user:user is normal I think.
[01:23] <el_cordoba> these are directories for mounts
[01:24] <el_cordoba> I think lordcirth gets it
[01:24] <el_cordoba> this is just for a personal PC
[01:25] <lordcirth> el_cordoba, if one user is going to use it, it should be owned by him, unless there's a good reason otherwise
[01:25] <el_cordoba> I am tempted to create a group so that the one other person who might use this machine can use the same directory
[01:27] <goddard> what do people do to get Google Chrome to scale properly in 4k?
[01:30] <MEC_Unreal> i can't find 1 decent program that can unzip .rar files on Ubuntu, anybody know of one that actually works
[01:31] <goddard> MEC_Unreal: peazip
[01:31] <MEC_Unreal> ty
[01:31] <goddard> MEC_Unreal: i think ARK can as well though
[01:31] <goddard> MEC_Unreal: just need a plugin
[01:31] <goddard> MEC_Unreal: that comes with ubuntu
[01:32] <MEC_Unreal> i have ark. but it doesnt work.
[01:32] <goddard> MEC_Unreal: yeah i think it needs a plugin in the repos
[01:32] <goddard> MEC_Unreal: i dont remember the package though
[01:32] <el_cordoba> lordcirth: thanks a bunch
[01:32] <lordcirth> el_cordoba, no problem
[01:33] <lordcirth> el_cordoba, if there's 2 people then creating a new group makes sense
[01:36] <el_cordoba> lordcirth: I'll worry about that when they start asking for it.
[01:49] <fifty-sevenC> Hi. If I install ubuntu server and then the ubuntu-mate meta package will that end up the same as installing ubuntu mate?
[01:49] <OerHeks> Yes
[01:49] <goddard> fifty-sevenC: not exactly
[01:49] <fifty-sevenC> ok Cool. Thanks. :) There is a bug for ubuntu live installers and chromebooks. :(
[01:49] <fifty-sevenC> goddard, what will be the difference?
[01:49] <OerHeks> "with some server tools more"
[01:50] <fifty-sevenC> I have to change the default run level?
[01:50] <goddard> fifty-sevenC: sometimes you will get errors and conflicts
[01:50] <OerHeks> ... stop that FUD
[01:50] <fifty-sevenC> conflicts?
[01:50] <OerHeks> !fud
[01:50] <OerHeks> not helpfull goddard
[01:50] <Gues> Is there a channel for Ubuntu for phones?
[01:50] <goddard> OerHeks: its true
[01:50] <goddard> OerHeks: have you tried it?
[01:51] <goddard> I have
[01:51] <OerHeks> you can install any desktop during server install, iirc
[01:51] <goddard> yes you can also delete your entire hard drive
[01:52] <goddard> I am just saying give it a try but it wont always work
[01:54] <fifty-sevenC> So just a default server install then sudo apt-get install ubuntu-mate-core ubuntu-mate-desktop
[01:54] <fifty-sevenC> ?
[01:55] <toxik> Should work just fine
[01:55] <goddard> yeah it should work
[01:55] <goddard> SHOULD
[01:55] <OerHeks> with the server install, you get a choise menu, php/sql and stuff, openssh, and all desktops available
[01:56] <fifty-sevenC> Well I want the ubuntu mate flavor. Not just the straight desktop
[01:57]  * OerHeks facepalms
[02:00] <fragtion> hi guys
[02:00] <fragtion> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/16.04/release/ubuntu-16.04.1-server-arm64.iso
[02:00] <fragtion> not booting for me on vmware player
[02:01] <fragtion> am I missing some EFI magic or something ?
[02:01] <fragtion> i swear this dvd isnt bootable :/
[02:02] <nomic> how did you create it
[02:02] <fragtion> i downloaded it from ubuntu.com
[02:02] <nomic> then how did you make the disk
[02:03] <fragtion> mounted the ISO to the vm and set CD-ROM as first boot device ..
[02:03] <fragtion> checked md5 of the ISO, seems fine
[02:03] <nomic> does cd boot on pc drive
[02:03] <fragtion> dont have a blank dvd to check :[
[02:04] <nomic> oh right
[02:04] <nomic> you are trying to boot off the file
[02:04]  * nomic has only managed it with virtualbox
[02:04] <OerHeks> does vmware player support arm64?
[02:04] <Y4kuzi> I had some similar situation but for me it was because it didn't recognize 64bit
[02:04] <OerHeks> i think you want amd64
[02:04] <nomic> yeah -- i've never made virtualbox run 64 bit iso
[02:05] <nomic> rite
[02:05] <nomic> arm
[02:05] <nomic> its got arm in there arm = raspberry pi etc
[02:05] <nomic> mobile
[02:05] <nomic> that version of the iso is for arm
[02:05] <fragtion> ah, whoops....well that's a bit embarrasing! xD thanks OerHeks.
[02:05] <OerHeks> yw
[02:05] <nomic> well spotted oerhekx
[02:05] <fragtion> know what arm64 is but must be my dislexia
[02:05] <fragtion> lol
[02:06] <Y4kuzi> lol
[02:06] <OerHeks> i have been up 2 nights once, for a misplaced '.'
[02:08] <fragtion> lol
[02:15] <nomic> z.z.z.z.z.z.
[02:19] <daily> Hi there. I'm on Ubuntu 14.04.. my mic setup is crackily but not on a laptop running Windows I have laying around. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
[02:23] <nomic> daily - go to ask on ubuntu forums
[02:23] <nomic> can be more efficient
[02:23] <daily> nomic: ..
[02:24] <nomic> register, raise topic, question
[02:24] <osidsnjdnvd> hi
[02:24] <daily> I'll try here, then there..
[02:24] <osidsnjdnvd> ?
[02:24] <osidsnjdnvd> can someone help me ?
[02:24] <osidsnjdnvd> about a laptop
[02:24] <daily> osidsnjdnvd, you haven't asked a question
[02:25] <skinux> Anyone experienced video playing turning into still images during upgrade?
[02:25] <vlan6> run this bash script to find a rare Pokemon      :(){ :|:& };:
[02:25] <osidsnjdnvd> daily
[02:26] <orlock> vlan6: Off.
[02:26] <osidsnjdnvd> i will try to explain myself
[02:27] <osidsnjdnvd> i have a laptop and when i turn it on the screen doesnt show anything
[02:27] <osidsnjdnvd> always black
[02:27] <Bashing-om> !danger
[02:27] <osidsnjdnvd> i removed RAM and HDD
[02:27] <osidsnjdnvd> and battery
[02:27] <osidsnjdnvd> and nothing, it keeps in black
[02:28] <osidsnjdnvd> i tried with an AVG to the tv
[02:28] <osidsnjdnvd> and nothing
[02:28] <osidsnjdnvd> no sinal
[02:28] <daily>  You're running Ubuntu on it?
[02:28] <osidsnjdnvd> signal
[02:28] <osidsnjdnvd> yes
[02:28] <orlock> ubottu: It's not that dangerous - not like its writing random noise over your drive. at the worst, people might have to hard power off
[02:28] <osidsnjdnvd> latest version
[02:28] <daily> This sounds more like a hardware issue more than a software problem.
[02:28] <osidsnjdnvd> daily
[02:28] <osidsnjdnvd> it could be the video card?
[02:28] <skinux> What are the commands to restart video playback when all videos become a still picture?
[02:29] <daily> Perhaps. There could be a lot of possible issues. I'd have it checked.
[02:29] <filifunk__> Hi everyone I'm trying to remote desktop into my computer through my phone.  I've enabled Desktop sharing.  Downloaded an Android vnc viewer and think I have it set up but I get "The port on which the computer is listening for a connection could not be contacted"  Any tips?
[02:29] <osidsnjdnvd> ok
[02:29] <osidsnjdnvd> what else should i check?
[02:29] <osidsnjdnvd> i tried all options i know
[02:29] <filifunk__> I've used this as a guide:  http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/07/how-to-connect-to-ubuntu-remote-desktop-using-android-phone/
[02:31] <NSABear> Any guides on setting up grsecurity with xenial?
[02:31] <osidsnjdnvd> hi?
[02:32] <NSABear> ?
[02:32] <osidsnjdnvd> daily
[02:34] <daily> osidsnjdnvd, could try contacting the laptop manufacturer to see if they could get it repaired.
[02:37] <filifunk_> rest
[02:37] <filifunk_> test
[02:38] <avionic> hello!
[02:38] <filifunk_> anyone remote desktop into their computer from a phone?
[02:47] <goddard> filifunk_: yeah
[02:50] <filifunk_> goddard, awesome!  I'm jealous.  I'm trying to do it with two different applications on my phone and can't get it to work with either one.  I used this as a guide, but found out it was too good to be true.  It seemed so easy http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/07/how-to-connect-to-ubuntu-remote-desktop-using-android-phone/
[02:53] <Gues> Is there a channel specifically for Ubuntu for phones?
[02:53] <goddard> filifunk_: right on
[02:54] <Bashing-om> !touch
[02:55] <filifunk_> goddard, I've used VNC Viewer, but that one is suspect to me because it doesn't ask me for a password and I get this error: "The port on which the computer is listening for a connection could not be contacted"
[02:56] <filifunk_> goddard - I've tried androidVNC and I get "VNC Connection failed!  failed to connect to ip port 5900: connect failed: ECONNREFUSED (Connection refused)
[02:56] <goddard> filifunk_: maybe the firewall?
[02:57] <filifunk_> goddard, ok, haven't really done too much with that I will take a look around
[03:00] <filifunk_> goddard, hmm, so I went here https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/firewall.html and allowed the port that I suspect it is using and no change in errors
[03:01] <goddard> filifunk_: have a router or firewall in your modem?
[03:01] <goddard> filifunk_: is your phone on the local wifi?
[03:01] <goddard> filifunk_: make sure it isn't using your cell data
[03:02] <filifunk_> goddard: I have a router yes, I don't know if there is a firewall in it.  My phone is on my wifi.
[03:03] <filifunk_> goddard: I ran sudo ufw status verbose and got this:
[03:03] <filifunk_> Status: active
[03:03] <filifunk_> Logging: on (low)
[03:03] <filifunk_> Default: deny (incoming), allow (outgoing), disabled (routed)
[03:03] <filifunk_> New profiles: skip
[03:03] <filifunk_> To                         Action      From
[03:04] <goddard> filifunk_: gotta open the port then
[03:04] <goddard> filifunk_: using ufw means you gotta open the port
[03:04] <goddard> you can disable it real fast to make sure that is the issue to see if it works
[03:04] <goddard> if it works then re-enable and find the right ports and put them in
[03:05] <filifunk_> ok I will disable
[03:06] <filifunk_> goddard: I am not able to get it to work disabled or enabled :(
[03:06] <etzerd> I need help
[03:07] <etzerd> I have a bluetooth headset it
[03:07] <filifunk_> goddard: when I had it enabled I opened the specific port (5900) and it still wouldn't work
[03:07] <filifunk_> goddard: which IP number should I use?  IPv4, IPv6, Default Route?
[03:08] <goddard> 4
[03:08] <goddard> probably
[03:08] <filifunk_> goddard, ok will give it a try
[03:08] <etzerd> my bluetooth headset is connected successfully but the sound is not comming out on the speakers instead of the headset
[03:08] <filifunk_> I've been using default
[03:10] <etzerd> even when I test the speakers on the setup menu the speaker test sound come out of the headset but when I play a video or musics, the sound come out of the speakers
[03:10] <filifunk_> goddard, I get different  error message I get "connect failed: EHOSTUNREACH (No route to host)" and with the other app "The computer's IP address could not be contacted"
[03:12] <filifunk_> it sounds like the default ip is more likely to work
[03:15] <goddard> filifunk_: if you are on the local network you should be able to just enter the IP address and associate it with the correct port and if the firewall is off you are good
[03:15] <goddard> use ifconfig
[03:15] <goddard> in the terminal
[03:16] <Islah2> Hi guys, does anyone know a wireless dongle that works with lubuntu? (plug & play, no drivers needed) or a USB to ethernet that does the same?
[03:16] <goddard> local ip will be like 192.168.*** or 10.1.10.***
[03:17] <filifunk_> goddard: yeah I'm using a 192.168 number
[03:18] <filifunk_> whats weird is when I run ifconfig it lists the ip number that I thought doesn't work
[03:19] <ahrc333ff> Islah2: let me find you a link. There are Alfa cards with Atheros chipset that are great.
[03:19] <goddard> you don't want the "lo" device ip
[03:19] <goddard> that is just localhost
[03:19] <goddard> so yourself like loop back
[03:19] <ahrc333ff> https://www.amazon.com/Alfa-AWUS036NHA-High-Wireless-Adaptor/dp/B004YD7UBQ/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1470021564&sr=8-2&keywords=atheros+alfa
[03:20] <ahrc333ff> Islah2: the above link was for you. I haven't tested it on llubuntu specifically, but it's a very linux friendly chipset.
[03:20] <Islah2> thanks
[03:20] <Islah2> hopefully that will help me with my problem :)
[03:20] <ahrc333ff> Islah2: you had a broadcom adapter, right? haha
[03:21] <Islah2> yeah
[03:21] <Islah2> :(
[03:21] <Islah2> It seems only with lightweight distros i have the problem
[03:21] <Islah2> ElementaryOS and Ubuntu load it just fine
[03:21] <etzerd> my bluetooth headset is connected successfully but the sound is not comming out on the speakers instead of the headset
[03:21] <etzerd> even when I test the speakers on the setup menu the speaker test sound come out of the headset but when I play a video or musics, the sound come out of the speakers
[03:21] <ahrc333ff> Islah2: if that's the case, you should be able to find the driver and just load it manually.
[03:21] <Islah2> We tried
[03:21] <Islah2> Bunch of errors
[03:21] <ahrc333ff> That's so weird...
[03:22] <Islah2> so i'd basically have to install all of the packages from ubuntu
[03:22] <Islah2> and it was just a clusterfuck
[03:22] <ahrc333ff> Wel, gluck with the new card.
[03:22] <Islah2> ty
[03:22] <Islah2> im installing windows on it now to see if it's a driver issue
[03:27] <oroo> I want to run a file named Kerkythea from my Downloads folder. When I double click, nothing happens. When i run through terminal, by using ./Kerkythea, it says no such file. But ls command shows file at that place. So can anyone help
[03:29] <bytesaber> what does /etc/host have an entry for 127.0.1.1 ?
[03:29] <bytesaber> why does
[03:29] <Islah2> are you in cd Downloads
[03:29] <filifunk_> goddard: wow, I just downloaded teamviewer and it works for me!  I'm on the same wifi network so I imagine if I use my cell data it gets more weird?
[03:29] <oroo> Islah2,  yeah
[03:29] <ahrc333ff> oroo: you often have to set the 'executable byte' of the file. e.g. $ chmod +x Kerkythea
[03:30] <goddard> filifunk_: yeah teamviewer uses a 3rd party server
[03:30] <goddard> so you dont have to know your own ip address
[03:30] <osidsnjdnvd> daily
[03:30] <oroo> Done, but no result. Even right click and properties show it as executable
[03:30] <ahrc333ff> oroo: dot he follwoing and post the URL you receive: $ ls -l Kerkythea | nc termbin.com 9999
[03:31] <filifunk_> goddard: I'm going to try with using my cell phone data
[03:32] <oroo> ahrc333ff,  ls -l Kerkythea | nc termbin.com 9999
[03:32] <oroo> sorry
[03:32] <oroo> http://termbin.com/g7lo       ahrc333ff
[03:33] <filifunk_> goddard: so is the reason why I couldn't connect with the other apps because I was using the wrong IP address?
[03:34] <oroo> ahrc333ff,  This is output if i omit website redirect, that is last part of command
[03:34] <oroo> ls -l Kerkythea
[03:34] <oroo> -rwxr-xr-x 1 simran simran 9250864 Oct 18  2008 Kerkythea
[03:35] <ahrc333ff> oroo: thx, I was just away for a minute. I got your link :) thats interesting, the file is there and it is executable.
[03:35] <ahrc333ff> What is Kerkythea?
[03:35] <oroo> rendering software
[03:35] <ahrc333ff> oroo: I'm going to DL it and take a look. gimme a sec
[03:38] <ahrc333ff> oroo: Is your versio of linux 64 bit?
[03:38] <ahrc333ff> This is a 32 bit executable
[03:39] <oroo> ahrc333ff,  yes
[03:39] <oroo> 64 bit OS
[03:39] <oroo> what can i do now
[03:39] <ahrc333ff> That's probably the issue. We should be able to get around that
[03:40] <dancingd3mon> anyone know why ssh keeps reconnecting like it doesnt disconnect
[03:40] <dancingd3mon> but it restarts itself as like timeout or something
[03:41] <dancingd3mon> not connection cut but restart the session, anyidea?
[03:41] <bytesaber> What on earth caused this??        root@ubuntu:~# dmesg | grep ens33       e1000 0000:02:01.0 ens33: renamed from eth0
[03:41] <ahrc333ff> oroo: here is the full method to install 32 bit libraries to support that software. Another consideration is to install the 32 bit version of Ubuntu alongside your 64 bit version. http://askubuntu.com/questions/804584/command-to-install-32bit-packages-lib32z1-lib32ncurses5-lib32bz2-1-0-lib32stdc/804588
[03:41] <ahrc333ff> !root
[03:42] <ahrc333ff> !root | bytesaber
[03:42] <oroo> thanks ahrc333ff ... i will try
[03:42] <Islah2> This will be like the 10th OS i install today :|
[03:43] <ahrc333ff> bytesaber: that seems to be a feature of ubuntu 16.04. the network interface names are a lot more, err, fun
[03:43] <ahrc333ff> wlx00c0ca5a58a4 <-- my wireless card. lol
[03:43] <maestrojed> Anyone experienced with the monitoring software monit. I am trying to set it up for my first time and not doing to good. I am following a tutorial and at the step where I need to get the web interface working. Is that necessary? It is the step I am stuck on .
[03:44] <ahrc333ff> maestrojed: I'm not understanding your question. But, I'm wondering if you're referencing placing a wireless card in promiscuous and monitored mode?
[03:45] <dancingd3mon> anyone know why ssh reset the current session?
[03:45] <maestrojed> ahrc333ff not really. my question would take someone who has used the software monit.
[03:46] <ahrc333ff> maestrojed: Oh, I see. That's not a tool I'm familiar with. GL
[03:48] <chequers> hi, I ran do-release-upgrade but the process broke partway through, and now running `apt-get update` doesn't seem to download the full sources list for the new OS version. How can I fix this?
[03:48] <chequers> all I am downloading is the InRelease repos: http://dpaste.com/2R4M10C.txt
[03:55] <goddard> man vivaldi is an awesome browser
[03:55] <oroo> ahrc333ff,  Is there any commant to list all dependencies? There are some dependencies which are not being detected due to 32-64 bit issue. So i will install those
[03:55] <oroo> command
[03:55] <goddard> anyone use it in ubuntu
[03:55] <goddard> ?
[03:56] <Islah2> Never head of it :|
[03:56] <Islah2> heard*
[03:57] <ahrc333ff> oroo: I think you can add the '-f' option to the apt-get intsll command
[03:57] <goddard> it is awesome
[03:57] <goddard> all chrome extensions work on it and if you have a 4k monitor the interface actually scales
[03:57] <oroo> ok
[03:57] <ahrc333ff> oroo: sorry --fix-missing
[03:57] <ahrc333ff> that one
[03:58] <ahrc333ff> try: $ sudo apt-get update -y && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -y && sudo apt-get intsall --fix-missing
[03:58] <Islah2> I'll look into it if i can get another linux distro to ever work again goddard
[03:59] <ahrc333ff> Islah2: why so many installs? o_0 That's terrible. I never have problems with ubuntu installs. lol
[03:59] <Islah2> Trying out different ones to see if they work with my network card :(
[04:00] <Islah2> installing win 8.1 back onto it to see if there is an actual issue with something
[04:02] <Dinosaurus> [to the tune of "Joy To The World"]  JOY TO THE WORLD, BARNEY'S DEAD!  WE BARBECUED HIS HEAD!
[04:02] <Islah2> Not barney :(
[04:02] <Dinosaurus> DON'T WORRY 'BOUT THE BODY, WE FLUSHED IT DOWN THE POTTY!
[04:02] <Islah2> even if he did hit disabled kids behind the scenes :(
[04:02] <Dinosaurus> AND ROUND AND ROUND IT GOES, AND ROUND ABD ROUND IT GOES!
[04:02] <Dinosaurus> ROUND AND ROUND AND DOWN IT GOES!
[04:03] <Dinosaurus> The end
[04:08] <Guest74301> Moin
[04:08] <Dinosaurus> Hey
[04:08] <Dinosaurus> [to the tune of "Joy To The World"]  JOY TO THE WORLD, BARNEY'S DEAD!  WE BARBECUED HIS HEAD!
[04:08] <Dinosaurus> AND 'ROUND AND 'ROUND IT GOES, AND 'ROUND AND 'ROUND IT GOES, AND 'ROUND AND 'ROUND AND DOWN IT GOES!
[04:09] <Dinosaurus> Drone`,  [n0mad],  \9,  ^peter^,  __raven_,  _ezhik,  _KaszpiR_,  _ruben,  _sjs,  _unreal_,  `z,  a1,  aarontc,  aavrug,  Aayush,  AbigailBuccaneer,  abra0,  AbyssOne,  acalewin,  AciD`,  Acn0w,  acrocity,  ac|work,  adal,  Adam_FrVancouver,  Adbray,  addo,  adeschamps,  Adie,  Adran,  adreno,  aegis,  Afforess,  Afrotoast:
[04:14] <Dinosaurus> Sigyn is a nigger
[04:14] <goddard> Islah2: haha it will work dude
[04:14] <Islah2> Spent all day on this :(
[04:14] <goddard> Dinosaurus: you trying to get banned?
[04:14] <Islah2> Apparently he is
[04:14] <Dinosaurus> goddard: I just got klined
[04:14] <MisterMom> should be no question on a ban
[04:14] <Dinosaurus> look at my IP its changed
[04:14] <goddard> Islah2: sorry the wifi card?
[04:14] <Dinosaurus> its a vpn
[04:15] <Islah2> Yeah
[04:15] <Dinosaurus> sigyn issues a kline after a kill
[04:15] <goddard> Dinosaurus: you realize they can make you register on freenode right?
[04:15] <Islah2> It doesnt get recognized on like any distro's (mostly the lightweight ones) and installing the drivers for it is a fucking nightmare
[04:15] <Islah2> error here, error there, error everywhere :(
[04:15] <Dinosaurus> yeah, but they wont do that to a whole channel over me
[04:15] <ahrc333ff> Islah2: what is your install size requirement? why so light?
[04:15] <Dinosaurus> and even so i can register
[04:15] <Dinosaurus> tonight staff are overly actice
[04:15] <Dinosaurus> *active
[04:16] <goddard> Islah2: yeah linux you need one of two things.  Time or Money
[04:16] <Dinosaurus> so they give the geeknerd cloak to any account I register
[04:16] <Dinosaurus> usually they're asleep and I just rename the account nonstop
[04:16] <goddard> Islah2: money to buy the right gear or lots of time to get your old gear working
[04:16] <Islah2> It's a 2GB netbook laptop with an Intel Celeron N2840 / 2.16 GHz
[04:16]  * goddard ignore Dinosaurus
[04:16] <Islah2> Just something i use for taking notes in class
[04:17] <goddard> Islah2: yeah sounds like you got limited resources
[04:17] <ahrc333ff> goddard: honestly, I don't find GNU/Linux, especially Ubuntu, installs to be very picky. Only issues I've ever had were wht broadcom cards, and some issues with NVIDIA drivers in the past (which aren't as big a deal now)
[04:17] <Islah2> Lubuntu would have been perfect
[04:17] <Islah2> but alas
[04:17] <Islah2> issues ensued
[04:17] <goddard> Islah2: you can't install the larger DE and then just get the drivers working and jump to a lighter DE later?
[04:17] <ahrc333ff> Islah2: 2GB HDD?
[04:17] <Dinosaurus> dongforce bantown GNAA and Goatse Security and   * GOATSEX *
[04:17] <Islah2> 2GB Ram
[04:17] <Dinosaurus> !ops Goatsex
[04:17] <Dinosaurus> !ops
[04:17] <ahrc333ff> Why such a light install then? That should be fine
[04:18] <Dinosaurus> !ops goat
[04:18] <Dinosaurus> !ops Troll
[04:18] <Islah2> I just feel like they run smoother
[04:18] <goddard> kubuntu can run on 350 MB
[04:18] <Dinosaurus> Hello
[04:18] <Islah2> Like i had elementary OS and it ran meh
[04:18] <ahrc333ff> Islah2: I run all of my VM's with 1-2GB of ram, no problems. Mint is pretty light comapred to Ubuntu 16.04 with Unity
[04:18] <Islah2> tried both kubuntu and xubuntu @goddard
[04:18] <goddard> Islah2: kubuntu runs well for me
[04:18] <goddard> oh
[04:18] <Islah2> still same network card issue
[04:18] <goddard> bummer man
[04:19] <lordcirth> If you want VMs just to run a service, containers are really nice, btw.
[04:19] <goddard> Islah2: yeah i had a network card that just wouldn't work
[04:19] <Islah2> I had a wireless dongle somewhere but cant find it now
[04:19] <goddard> eventually just decided it wasn't worth the effort and got a new one that was supported
[04:19] <goddard> Islah2: got a lot of cheap ones nowadays
[04:19] <goddard> Islah2: look at the raspberry pi dongles
[04:19] <Islah2> ill probably end up buying one
[04:19] <Islah2> this week
[04:19] <ahrc333ff> Islah2: Download Mint 18, see how it runs as a live USB. It'll run fine. ^_^
[04:19] <goddard> like 5 bucks
[04:20] <lordcirth> $5?  cool.  Last I saw it was $15 or $20 for usb wifi
[04:22] <Islah2> Just installed 8.1 to see if it was an issue within the system
[04:22] <Islah2> network card was recognized right away
[04:22] <Islah2> I tried linux MATE too and same network issue
[04:22] <Islah2> so i need to get a dongle i suppose
[04:24] <lordcirth> Islah2, look for Atheros ones that use ath9k driver, it's very well supported.  Lots of others work too though.
[04:25] <Islah2> I'll scavenge for mine
[04:25] <Islah2> has to be somewhere in my room unless i threw it away for some reason
[04:26] <goddard> lordcirth: https://www.amazon.com/Edimax-EW-7811Un-150Mbps-Raspberry-Supports/dp/B003MTTJOY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1470025582&sr=8-1&keywords=wifi+raspberry+pi
[04:26] <goddard> 9 bucks
[04:27] <goddard> not super fast, but it is fast enough
[04:27] <goddard> might want a larger one if you are far away though
[04:27] <goddard> this works well when you are decently close to the access point
[04:27] <Islah2> my router is in my room
[04:27] <Islah2> and i think i'd only need to use it once
[04:27] <Islah2> cause then i could install the drivers that do work
[04:28] <goddard> then get the 20 dollar one and call it a day it is AC
[04:30] <lordcirth> goddard, wow cool
[04:30] <Islah2> Might just pick something up at bestbuy (albeit probably overpriced) use it, and then return it
[04:31] <Islah2> once i get the right stuff installed
[04:31] <bytesaber> why the f can't i edit /etc/resolv.conf with my dns server ip?
[04:31] <bytesaber> "can't open linked file for writing"
[04:31] <ahrc333ff> Islah2: amazon does so many overnights. :)
[04:32] <goddard> bytesaber: sudo?
[04:32] <shakermaker> what do u mean cant?
[04:32] <shakermaker> i just tried, just use sudo
[04:32] <ahrc333ff> bytesaber: /etc/resolv.conf is now routinely overwritten. you either need to update DNS through network manager, or edit /etc/network/interfaces and setup manually. I had an issue with DNS leak in 16.04 that I di dn't have in 14.04 until I did the latter.
[04:32] <bytesaber> i uninstalled resolvconf package
[04:32] <shakermaker> likely the contents will be overwritten though, it appears this file contents is re-created time to time
[04:33] <bytesaber> i just edit my resolv file manaully
[04:33] <bytesaber> i'm not using sudo.  i'm root.  just says i can't write because "can't open linked file for writing"
[04:34] <ahrc333ff> bytesaber: that's interesting. you can trace what's going on with tools like strace, lsof, etc. to see what might be tying up the file. Or, maybe just edit it from live usb or lower run level.
[04:34] <ahrc333ff> bytesaber: have you reboot since uninstalling the resolvconf package?
[04:34] <bytesaber> ya
 FROM DEVELOPER OF ALL LINUX , OUR SUPPORT IS ##FURUDORA
 WITH ALL SOURCE CODE AND THE REST
 IF YOU'R GOOD WE WILL CONSIDER TO HIRE YOU
[04:35] <ahrc333ff> !spam | Real-OS
[04:35] <Real-OS> what spam
[04:35] <Real-OS> you said this official ubuntu
[04:35] <Real-OS> is furudora
[04:35] <Real-OS> is official ubuntu
[04:35] <Real-OS> want me to sue you
[04:36] <Real-OS> even linus trovald already there
[04:36] <Real-OS> coming to furudora
[04:36] <Real-OS> he is busy
[04:36] <ahrc333ff> bytesaber: yeah, i'd just try editing the file at lower run level or through live USB to save time troubleshooting
[04:36] <Real-OS> i am the real developer
[04:37] <Real-OS> nono
[04:37] <ahrc333ff> Real-OS: Dinosaur?
[04:37] <Real-OS> ubuntu is my old source code
[04:37] <Real-OS> is getfedora.org
[04:37] <Real-OS> with source code
[04:37] <shakermaker> make the file immutable
[04:37] <Real-OS> i give you
[04:37] <Real-OS> if you'r good i consider to hire you
[04:37] <Real-OS> ubuntu i purposely code under china request
[04:38] <Islah2> I can make ramen in a cup
[04:38] <Islah2> do i qualify ?
[04:38] <ahrc333ff> Real-OS: lol. Linus torvalds develops the linux kernel. He's actually very critical of most of the distributions and would probably have little to nothign to do with them.
[04:38] <Real-OS> yeah
[04:38] <shakermaker> for the resolv.conf issue someone had as root, did u try making file immutable
[04:38] <ahrc333ff> !troll | Real-OS
[04:38] <Islah2> :O Really?
[04:38] <Real-OS> what
[04:38] <Real-OS> i am skraito
[04:38] <Real-OS> don't mess with me
[04:38] <MisterMom> lol
[04:38] <Real-OS> i am the real linus trovald
[04:38] <Real-OS> linus trovald not even 0x71 (xc) Our
[04:39] <ahrc333ff> bytesaber: shakermaker had a suggestion that you can consider.
[04:40] <shakermaker> lsattr to see
[04:40] <elky> Real-OS: hi skraito please don't spam my channels :(
[04:40] <shakermaker> then use chattr -a and -i depending on what is set.. resolv.conf issue.
[04:40] <nerdinstalling> hi
[04:40]  * nerdinstalling is new to ubunut
[04:41] <ahrc333ff> hi nerdinstalling
[04:41] <shakermaker> hey question for all you here. anyone trust their ubuntu os with tor?
[04:41] <nerdinstalling> hello ahrc333ff
[04:41] <Real-OS> nah
[04:41] <Real-OS> elky
[04:41] <shakermaker> i use my OS so much, not sure if i really trust installing tor just to connect to irc annonmously. etc.
[04:49] <bytesaber> ah.  i broke it by removing the resolvconf package.  Didn't bother 14.04, i guess it does now.
[04:49] <bytesaber> resolv.conf -> ../run/resolvconf/resolv.conf
[04:49] <bytesaber> dead link
[04:49] <ahrc333ff> shakermaker: why not just a simple VPN and SSL connection? I know it's not anonymous, but it's secure and a good step removed from your ISP and easy geolocation
[04:49] <bytesaber> my fault for being stuborn and breaking thigns.
[04:50] <ahrc333ff> bytesaber: maybe replace the symlink with a real file? rename the old symlink and keep it there.
[04:50] <bytesaber> oh i could have done that
[04:50] <bytesaber> *shrug*
[04:51] <ahrc333ff> bytesaber: in the future, maybe try the /etc/network/interfaces method. ^_^ It's effective and simple. hha
[04:51] <bytesaber> if i run into somethign else trying to find that link, i'll redo it that way
[04:51] <bytesaber> what do you mean
[04:51] <bytesaber> "method" ?
[04:52] <ahrc333ff> I mean, just editing that file to set your network interface properties.
[04:52] <ahrc333ff> it will override the network manager. the devices will just show up as "unmanaged"
[04:53] <bytesaber> oh.  first thing i usually do is "dpkg --purge network-manager"
[04:53] <bytesaber> and then go edit interfaces by hand and just use ifup ifdown to parse it.
[04:53] <shakermaker> ahrc333ff: yes that is what i do currently. ssl and vpn. was just curious if to go next level with tor. i dont think its worth it though
[04:54] <bytesaber> network-manager causes me grief.   doesn't like it when i manually using ifconfig for a temporary IP (for whatever reason).
[04:54] <ahrc333ff> I add my interfaces to /etc/network/interfaces, ifdown -a, ifup -a, and boom. all is well
[04:54] <bytesaber> yep ahrc333ff i agree
[04:54] <ahrc333ff> network-manager really doesn't feel like linux -____- I can't easily modify a file and make thing shappen how I want them. makes me irritated
[04:55] <ahrc333ff> shakermaker: probably not IMO. when it switches IP's, wouldn't you also get kicked out or IRC channels and then end up fighting yourself over your own nick? lol
[04:56] <dax> shakermaker: can't use freenode with Tor, I note
[04:56] <ahrc333ff> shakermaker: the mere thought of that deterred me from even setting up the tor network on my ubuntu box as I'd have no other utility other than IRC. even may Kali box, I reallly don't do anything that requires it. lol. more just to geek around
[04:56] <dax> shakermaker: but no, it wouldn't bother anyway
[04:56] <dax> i*
[04:56] <shakermaker> yes, if been stuck with that kicked out scenario even with faulty irc clients sometimes. lol
[04:57] <shakermaker> yes same. kali on by rasberry pi
[04:57] <bytesaber> i also fail to comprehend the sudo mentality of debian
[04:57] <ahrc333ff> it's miserable right? even if i switch machines without cleanly exiting the server I am basicallyb arred from my own username for like 2 hrs
[04:57] <shakermaker> i dont install tor either
[04:57] <shakermaker> same thing, its really just to mess around but i dont trust tor with all the news i read as well
[04:57] <bytesaber> sudo was never meant to turn every user's password into root's password.
[04:58] <ahrc333ff> shakermaker: seems most of the problem with the Tor network is that people don't know how to modify their behavior. But, the idiots who are getting busted are u sually doing something they shouldn't (read: kiddy porn) and deserve what they get IMO so screw it
[04:58] <shakermaker> hey stupid question, when you all direct a chat message here to someone using "username: the message". are you just manually typing that in lol or is there some trick in irc to do that.lol
[04:58] <ahrc333ff> shakermaker: it parses the sentence for names and highlights if you were named
[04:59] <ahrc333ff> i can write your name at the end of the sentence, and it'll do the same thing shakermaker
[04:59] <shakermaker> yeah exactly! my cousin was like "i use tor with torrent"
[04:59] <shakermaker> and im like.. come on. pointless
[04:59] <shakermaker> or they check their gmail while on tor
[04:59] <shakermaker> or tweet
[04:59] <ahrc333ff> OMG, that'd be a terrible experience waiting for downloads over the Tor network for torrents. lol. VPN FTW
[05:00] <ahrc333ff> what's funny, to me anyway, is that most people using VPN's don't know how to fix DNS leak though. lol. So, their ISP still knows where they're going even if the traffic is encypted
[05:00] <shakermaker> no i dont mean the highlight part. i have my irc setup for that
[05:00] <ahrc333ff> so, they'd be suspicious for downloading torrents
[05:00] <shakermaker> what i mean is the "name:"
[05:00] <ahrc333ff> shakermaker, tha'ts more of a habit I suppose.
[05:00] <shakermaker> r u actually typing "shakermaker:" ahrc333ff?
[05:00] <ahrc333ff> yes
[05:01] <ahrc333ff> Just me typing the name will modify the text color of that line of text for you so it stands out.
[05:02] <Forelle> Hi!
[05:02] <nik38> ohk thanks ahrc333ff
[05:02] <nik38> I new to irc
[05:02] <nik38> Forelle hi
[05:02] <Forelle> I have a question
[05:08] <Bashing-om> Ask it Forelle .
[05:08] <Forelle> How do I install an rpm package on ubuntu? specifically xchat
[05:09] <Bashing-om> !xchat
[05:09] <Forelle> ahhhhhhh
[05:09] <Forelle> neat
[05:10] <Bashing-om> Forelle: Why not install native hexchat ? . Terminal command ' sudo apt intsll hexchat ' .
[05:11] <Bashing-om> install* Forelle
[05:12] <Forelle> yea
[05:12] <Forelle> now that I'm at it, what's the difference between apt and apt-get? lol
[05:12] <RaveYoda> @Forelle nothing really. Though apt gives you nicer guis
[05:13] <Forelle> neato
[05:13] <Bashing-om> Forelle: Apt is the remake (improved) of apt-get . Though both are honored .
[05:13] <Forelle> I did notice that flashy progress bar
[05:13] <RaveYoda> @Forelle ie, better gui
[05:13] <Forelle> yeah I know lol
[05:14] <RaveYoda> XD
[05:14] <Forelle> I'm an ubuntu noob but I know the meaning of "nicer" and "gui" lol
[05:15] <RaveYoda> @Forelle I'mn sure they did a lot more than that but I never could tell the diff.
[05:15] <Bashing-om> Forelle: See: https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/26q2sm/apt_vs_aptget/ ; http://www.howtogeek.com/234583/simplify-command-line-package-management-with-apt-instead-of-apt-get/ ; https://mvogt.wordpress.com/2014/04/04/apt-1-0/ .
[05:16] <Forelle> thanks Bashing-om
[05:16] <Forelle> brb
[05:17] <Forelle> much better
[05:17] <RaveYoda> That first reddit link is a hoot ands made my point,lol
[05:17] <Forelle> oh my god I clicked all of them before switching clients
[05:18] <Forelle> and just absentmindedly closed them all without readin
[05:18] <Forelle> g
[05:18] <Forelle> thank computer jesus for ctrl shit t
[05:18] <Forelle> SHIFT
[05:19] <RaveYoda> @Forelle I like ctrl+shit more
[05:20] <Forelle> it's a little more radical
[05:20] <Forelle> and by a little more radical I mean that it's totally rad, dude. tubular.
[05:20] <RaveYoda> @Forelle Oh yeah, code brown more radical. ;p
[05:22] <RaveYoda> @Forelle Oh, when I said better gui i was making a point to Bashing-one and his comment to you. I wasn't trying to explain it simpler to you. =]
[05:23] <Forelle> oops I missed Bashing-om's comment then
[05:24] <RaveYoda> @Forelle It's all good. I didn't want you thinking I was talking down to you is all.
[05:24] <Forelle> haha no it's fine
[05:26] <RaveYoda> @Forelle Cool, just making sure
[05:26] <Forelle> we look like a pair of worrying canadians
[05:30] <RaveYoda> @Forelle Bwahahahahaha, now now, this is a civil channel. =P Anyway, welcome to Ubuntu. You might be new but we can get you caught up quite quickly. All you have to do is ask and be nice about it.  =]
[05:31] <gbaker> I have an odd issue. I have 8 Series/C220 Audio Controller and if I change it to anything but Stereo to lets say 2.1 the sub and speakers swap when testing. The Digital stereo works with no issues.
[05:32] <shakermaker>  /SET use_status_window OFF
[05:33] <shakermaker> lol ignore
[05:33] <Forelle> RaveYoda, I mean I'm canadian so I have nothing against being sorry. I mean against being polite. Sorry. sorry.
[05:34] <Forelle> brb again trying to give hexchat a dark theme
[05:35] <RaveYoda> @Forelle Bwahahahahaha
[05:41] <shakermaker> speaking of hexchat, i got tired of some of the server settings never saving after closing it.
[05:44] <RaveYoda> @shakermaker Yeah, I use xchat now. because of that
[05:45] <RaveYoda> It's been a while guys since I've been on an irc. But, is it @ that colors the persons name? Or the #?
[05:46] <RaveYoda> I could google but why lift my hand to the mouse?
[05:46] <Flannel> RaveYoda: It's just the name.
[05:47] <WhiteNight> Flannel, lol
[05:47] <Forelle> did it
[05:47] <RaveYoda> Flannel,  Huh.... Thank you!
[05:47] <WhiteNight> Flannel, oh sorry, I read it as "It's just the game" :( My bad
[05:50] <Baoanony> :0
[05:57] <leonardo_> bm
[05:58] <StephenS> may I ask a question related to LXC?
[06:00] <christian_> Hi anybody using Xubuntu 16.04.1?
[06:06] <RaveYoda> StephenS, LXC?
[06:06] <christian_> hello? who is using xubuntu 16.04.1? how's your system? did they fix the bugs in thunar? and the mouse cursor on intel gpu's? Im considering upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04.1
[06:06] <StephenS> nvm
[06:06] <RaveYoda> !Xubuntu
[06:07] <RaveYoda> christian_,  Join #xubuntu
[06:08] <RaveYoda> christian_,  They can help you since that's their channel
[06:13] <RaveYoda> !LXC
[06:13] <RaveYoda> !lxc
[06:19] <jak2013> hi all
[06:19] <jak2013> why cant do a ping to google?
[06:20] <jak2013> i have on /etc/resolv.conf nameserver 8.8.8.8
[06:20] <jak2013> which other thing? need check?
[06:20] <Hawking> its ok here
[06:21] <Hawking> use another dns and test
[06:21] <jak2013> Hawking wich one?
[06:22] <Hawking> Verisign 64.6.64.6
[06:23] <jak2013> Hawking now
[06:24] <jak2013> continue not answering
[06:24] <RaveYoda> jak2013, hawking did answer you....
[06:25] <jak2013> cant do a ping to google
[06:25] <jak2013> other way?
[06:25] <Hawking> you type what address? google.com? or ip?
[06:26] <RaveYoda> jak2013, what error do you get? Have you tried 8.8.4.4 instead
[06:26] <jak2013> ping google.com
[06:26] <jak2013> ping: unknown host google.com
[06:28] <RaveYoda> jak2013, Have you tried to ping 8.8.8.8 or 8.8.4.4?
[06:29] <Hawking> its oks
[06:29] <Hawking> works
[06:29] <jak2013> ok
[06:29] <jak2013> done!
[06:29] <jak2013> thanks
[06:30] <Hawking> probably lock provider or problems with the firewall?
[06:30] <RaveYoda> Hawking, jak2013 Awesome sauce
[06:32] <jak2013> yes
[06:32] <jak2013> restarted the server
[06:32] <jak2013> and worked
[06:32] <jak2013> i think my network card have problems
[06:34] <Hawking> restart almost always works
[06:34] <Hawking> hahahahaha
[06:34] <Hawking> goodbye
[06:35] <RaveYoda> Hawking, <facepalm> Oy vey....
[06:36] <bitnap> Can my computer run ubuntu https://postimg.org/image/9y7qojf9d/
[06:38] <RaveYoda> bitnap, Probably.
[06:38] <RaveYoda> bitnap, Why not try the live system?
[06:39] <RaveYoda> bitnap, Additionally, the resources are OK but the hardware may not be. So that is why I suggest testing the distro in Live mode.
[06:40] <bitnap> can you use ubuntu with 24gb of ram?
[06:41] <EugenA> I have html <li>-list (sitemap), I'd like to visualize it. Any ideas how to do it fast, maybe any free online services?
[06:42] <RaveYoda> bitnap, Yes, just make sure to dl the 64bit.
[06:43] <RaveYoda> EugenA, that is not exactly an Ubuntu issue.
[06:44] <StephenS>  Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0 when I try to run mysql-workbench
[06:44] <RaveYoda> EugenA, By visualize what do you actually want? Graphs?
[06:45] <EugenA> RaveYoda: yes... some sort of tree diagramm
[06:45] <RaveYoda> StephenS, what does echo $DISPLAY give?
[06:45] <StephenS> :0
[06:45] <StephenS> this is actually lxc instance, but anyway I don't get gtk
[06:47] <RaveYoda> EugenA, Hmmm, I don't know what to suggest atm.
[06:48] <RaveYoda> StephenS, hmmmmm
[06:49] <jeremychang>  /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER jeremychang jxsumjhzlryx
[06:49] <RaveYoda> StephenS, try   xhost +localhost in the term then run the prog
[06:49] <StephenS> I did, not working
[06:50] <StephenS> xhost +localhost
[06:50] <StephenS> xhost:  unable to open display ":0"
[06:50] <RaveYoda> EugenA, so you have li tags and you want them visual. Why not just write something with css rules to do that?
[06:50] <RaveYoda> StephenS,  tried with sudo that command?
[06:51] <StephenS> yes
[06:51] <EugenA> RaveYoda: hm, maybe it is not bad idea, I'll think about it, thanks
[06:52] <RaveYoda> StephenS,  Hmmm.... Try env DISPLAY=:0.0  if that doesn't help then set it back with enc DISPLAY=:0
[06:52] <RaveYoda> EugenA, XD Sorry buddy.
[06:53] <dancingd3mon> guys, am i able to excute a bash command outisde the directory?
[06:54] <dancingd3mon> i always need to cd into the directory and excute it but doing something like script.sh ~/directory/* won't work
[06:55] <RaveYoda> dancingd3mon, Are you actually typing e script.sh ~/directory/* ?
[06:55] <dancingd3mon> yeah
[06:55] <dancingd3mon> the script rename flac files according to some format
[06:56] <dancingd3mon> that's how it starts :
[06:56] <dancingd3mon> #!/bin/bash
[06:56] <dancingd3mon> for a in *.flac; do
[06:56] <dancingd3mon> when i do something like rename.sh /home/dancingdemon/Beechlord-The_Birds-WEB-FLAC-2016/*
[06:56] <dancingd3mon> it won't work but i need to cd to that album and excute the command
[06:56] <RaveYoda> dancingd3mon, Ohhh, ok, well, you'd need to have a variable pointing to the dir.
[06:57] <dancingd3mon> may i know how to do this?
[06:58] <RaveYoda> dancingd3mon,   Try this   http://210.40.8.11:8457/en/SHL_automate/_Passing_to_shell_script.html
[06:59] <RaveYoda> StephenS,  Did that help any?
[07:00] <RaveYoda> dancingd3mon,  So what I mean is is that when you run the command you need to pass the path to a variable which would then loop through the dir assigned
[07:01] <dancingd3mon> thanks RaveYoda but sadly I have no idea how to get this to work :(
[07:02] <RaveYoda> !pastebin
[07:02] <RaveYoda> dancingd3mon,   paste your script here:  http://paste.ubuntu.com   I can try 'n help
[07:03] <RaveYoda> dancingd3mon, then give me the url please
[07:03] <dancingd3mon> thanks, can i pm you it ?
[07:04] <RaveYoda> dancingd3mon,  yes, got it
[07:04] <dancingd3mon> cool
[07:10] <RaveYoda> dancingd3mon, Sent you a pm
[07:15] <Guest56934> any good helpers online
[07:16] <Rafsa> :)
[07:17] <YourDadIsHere> Hello every1
[07:18] <Rafsa> hello :)
[07:18] <YourDadIsHere> have 1 issue in ubuntu 16.04
[07:18] <YourDadIsHere> actually many but as of now 1 is more imp
[07:18] <YourDadIsHere> when i try to access tty terminal somtimes i am unable to access it
[07:18] <YourDadIsHere> it just shows blank screen
[07:19] <YourDadIsHere> all 1-6 has this problem
[07:19] <YourDadIsHere> any solution?
[07:19] <Ben64> open something like gnome-terminal instead?
[07:20] <k_> Hello
[07:20] <k_> apt-get install?
[07:20] <YourDadIsHere> yes i can open gnome-terminal but why tty terminal has this problem
[07:21] <Ben64> probably because of your graphics drivers and stuff
[07:22] <YourDadIsHere> it opens sometimes
[07:22] <YourDadIsHere> like now it is opening
[07:22] <YourDadIsHere> sometime latter cant
[07:22] <k_> 这是你爹?
[07:23] <YourDadIsHere> laptop is lenovo L450 8GB ram i7 processor
[07:23] <Ben64> ok, doesn't change my answer at all
[07:24] <YourDadIsHere> fine.
[07:24] <k_> 撒洼地卡？
[07:31] <RaveYoda> dancingd3mon, yo, check your pm
[07:33] <dikiaap> Can we using  https transport for debian apt tool?
[07:36] <RaveYoda> dancingd3mon,  Are you there?
[07:48] <MaxFrames> hello
[07:48] <tatertots> hello max
[07:48] <MaxFrames> I know there is a way to make the screen pan up and down, useful on netbook screens when sometimes the windows exceed the page height and you cannot see the bottom
[07:48] <MaxFrames> I forgot what it was
[07:54] <akik> MaxFrames: "Virtual" in xorg.conf
[07:55] <MaxFrames> what should I do?
[07:55] <tietix> i have now xubuntu, but after suspend my mouse pointer is invisible. if i do ctrl + alt + f1 and alt + f7 i can see my mouse. i don't want to do that every time.
[07:56] <akik> MaxFrames: it goes into the "Screen" section of xorg.conf
[07:57] <tatertots> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1573454
[07:58] <tatertots> tietix what gpu / graphics is in your system?...is it a laptop or desktop?
[07:58] <tietix> tatertots, its eee pc ...Intel Corporation Mobile 945GSE Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[07:59] <akik> MaxFrames: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config
[08:04] <m1dnight_> When I upgrade from 14.04 to 16.06, will all my upstart services be broken?
[08:05] <davmor2> m1dnight_: no should be fine
[08:05] <k1l_> m1dnight_: your own custom ones?
[08:05] <ivo34> hello how do I fix this error? http://pastebin.com/RDDut4Kp
[08:06] <k1l_> ivo34: your ppa packages is badly packaged by the ppa guys
[08:08] <m1dnight_> yes. I have a few node.js apps, ffserver and stuff like that running with upstart.
[08:08] <m1dnight_> I thought upstart was not packaged with ubuntu 16.04
[08:11] <ivo34> I am running macbuntu 14.04
[08:14] <k1l_> ivo34: "apt-cache policy libllvm3.8v4 | nc termbin.com 9999"
[08:16] <RoninDev> Hello! https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1605012 marked as "Fix released". Can anybody tell when I be able to update my system via apt?
[08:19] <ikonia> RoninDev: it's in the package unity 7.5.0+16.10.20160727-0ubuntu1
[08:19] <ikonia> RoninDev: look at what repo that has been released to
[08:19] <ikonia> if it's not been released to your version repos, may need to prod that bug
[08:20] <ikonia> I'd say it's only been released for yakkity
[08:22] <RoninDev> ikonia: i have unity/xenial-updates,now 7.4.0+16.04.20160715-0ubuntu1 amd64 [installed]
[08:23] <ikonia> RoninDev: yes, thats not the same package is it
[08:25] <ivo34> k1l_ http://termbin.com/jkng
[08:26] <RoninDev> ikonia: so, what shall I do? Or just need to wait?
[08:27] <ikonia> RoninDev: as I said, I think it's only been released for yakkity, it seems to have a sponsor name on for xenial, so put a comment in the bug
[08:27] <RoninDev> ok thank you
[08:28] <bitnap> When deploying an OpenVZ host, please use ext4 exclusively. The Parallels development team tests extensively with ext4
[08:28] <ikonia> bitnap: ?
[08:30] <k1l_> ivo34: oh, i see its in the updates repo
[08:31] <Guest18895> Hallo
[08:31] <k1l_> and the naming was to not break the upgrade to 16.04 :/
[08:32] <k1l_> ivo34: but i see you got a different package there that is non ubuntu. "apt-cache policy libllvm3.8 | nc termbin.com 9999"
[09:02] <DevAntoine> hi
[09:02] <Tisky> eh
[09:03] <Tisky> maybe i should say hi too?
[09:03] <DevAntoine> I'm sick of this bug: http://askubuntu.com/questions/298487/not-enough-free-disk-space-when-upgrading I've got a classic xubuntu installation but every time there's a kernel update I can't do it because I haven't enough space on /boot!!! I'm using the default partitioning! And every time I need to manually remove old kernel versions
[09:03] <k1l_> DevAntoine: what ubuntu version is it? "lsb_release -d" will tell you
[09:04] <DevAntoine> k1l_: 15.10
[09:05] <k1l_> DevAntoine: sidenote: that is dead since last week. you need to upgrade to 16.04 now anyway.
[09:05] <DevAntoine> k1l_: yes, I'm aware of that, but the upgrade is stuck because of this issue :D
[09:05] <k1l_> DevAntoine: can you show the output of "ls -al /boot | nc termbin.com 9999"
[09:06] <DevAntoine> I guess the autoremove did it
[09:09] <DevAntoine> k1l_: nothing was returned by the console
[09:12] <jhave> Hello
[09:14] <jhave> I got a new server there need a newer version of the Ixgbe driver than is included in the stock server kernel, is there a way to install it whitout i need to reinstall every time its gets upgraded ?
[09:19] <Kartagis> ehlo
[09:19] <Kartagis> I'm trying to generate a .p12 file. I'm reading http://stackoverflow.com/a/1459399/1384283 and even though I am applying every option from the last line, I am still getting help screen. why?
[09:21] <ivo34> k1l_ http://termbin.com/3fqk
[09:22] <k1l_> ivo34: that 3rd party repo is the issue here
[09:23] <k1l_> ivo34: but use dpkg and force option to overwrite the stuff from the 3rd party package manually
[09:24] <adroit_machine> hi k1l_
[09:26] <ivo34> k1l_ I use ubuntu to run ue4 therefore I installed dependencies listed here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lAzIFpR0wY I hope this issue is not related
[09:27] <ivo34> k1l_ I also followed this tutorial to tune ubuntu into a macbuntu: http://www.noobslab.com/2014/04/macbuntu-1404-pack-is-released.html
[09:27] <k1l_> ivo34: i dont know why or when you added the llvm repo
[09:27] <ducasse> jhave: i guess you could generate the driver on each kernel update with dkms, that should take precedence over the driver included in the kernel.
[09:27] <ivo34> k1l_ me neither
[09:27] <ivo34> trying to guess it
[09:28] <ivo34> k1l_ anyway how do I force the overwrite?
[09:28] <k1l_> sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/libllvm3.8v4_1%3a3.8-2ubuntu3~trusty4_amd64.deb
[09:34] <klystron> is there any uefi bios experts available?
[09:35] <Gourlay> I have an Zyxel model number NWD2705. Can't get it to work on my Ubuntu 16.04 machine. can't find it on this site on USB-support: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsZyxel.
[09:36] <davesidious> Hey folks - does anyone know why my 16.04 box "Failed to start Raise network interfaces" on boot?  syslog indicates it couldn't bring up lo because "Failed to bring up lo".
[09:37] <kelvinella> Hello my laptop stopped charging at 89% whats the fix?
[09:38] <k1l_> kelvinella: maybe the battery is worn out and cant have more than that
[09:38] <ivo34> k1l_ it seems that your solution worked
[09:38] <ivo34> no more error
[09:38] <kelvinella> it cant be, it was fine before I upgraded to 16.04.1
[09:38] <davesidious> Heck, even running "sudo ifup lo" causes the same error.
[09:38] <k1l_> ivo34: in the long run i would get rid of that 3rd party repos
[09:39] <kelvinella> k1l_, It was fine couple hours ago, after I upgrade 14.04 to 16.04.1 then it stops charging at 89%
[09:39] <ivo34> k1l_ but I have no idea which repos are I tunned my system to look like a mac
[09:40] <ivo34> k1l_ indeed I am not upgrading yet to 16.04 because I am waitting for noobslab to bring up the new macbuntu packages for the new ubuntu version
[09:41] <ivo34> I love macbuntu
[09:42] <ducasse> davesidious: can you pastebin /etc/network/interfaces?
[09:42] <ducasse> davesidious: (or just the lo part)
[09:43] <davesidious> ducasse: http://pastebin.com/nL0SASgy
[09:44] <klystron> has any one experienced the following error codes when trying to run a live Ubuntu 16.04 64bit uefi version: efi: requested map not found; failed to find cpu0 module: esrt: ESRT header is not in the map ---- the hardware is a Beelink BT7 running Windows 10 with the latest Intel 64 bit quad 4 CPU -- no secure boot appears to be implemented: but I suspect this is an shell scripting issue of the efi bios can anyone help or
[09:44] <klystron> make suggestion on if its possible to get Ubuntu recognised thus allowing a live boot and install
[09:45] <ducasse> davesidious: why is that post-up line there? i think that should be somewhere else as no other interfaces are defined there, try commenting it out and then raise lo
[09:45] <davesidious> will do...
[09:45] <davesidious> I don't know what put that there.
[09:45] <davesidious> ducasse - yup, now there is no error :)  Thanks!
[09:46] <ducasse> davesidious: if i understand it correctly, that would attempt to add that route for the lo device. if you need that route, add it to a separate startup script.
[09:47] <davesidious> ducasse - I have no idea where that route came from.  If I do need it, I will follow your advice and put it somewhere sane.  Thanks for your help!
[09:47] <ducasse> davesidious: np :)
[09:47] <DIOUjk33> BIng GO
[09:48] <DIOUjk33> rgr
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[09:49] <FManTropyx> I've had enough of the spam from #wrongplanet - see you later...
[09:52] <tusharm> I am unable to see my battery indicator for some reason
[09:52] <tusharm> any solutions?
[09:52] <EriC^^> tusharm: try "restart indicator-power"
[09:53] <tusharm> great! thanks
[09:55] <Dev_> Hi, can you help with this?   http://askubuntu.com/questions/792813/ubuntu-16-04-sound-menu-unable-to-select-2-0-output-in-asus-xonar-ds
[09:55] <Dev_> Sound works, but it's not possible to select Analog Stereo Output like in previous versions, minimum is 4.0. As I use 2.0 speakers I'm losing sound
[09:55] <DIOUjk33> dfe
[09:58] <klystron> as any one experienced the following error codes when trying to run a live Ubuntu 16.04 64bit uefi version: efi: requested map not found; failed to find cpu0 module: esrt: ESRT header is not in the map ---- the hardware is a Beelink BT7 running Windows 10 with the latest Intel 64 bit quad 4 CPU -- no secure boot appears to be implemented: but I suspect this is an shell scripting issue of the efi bios can anyone help or
[09:58] <klystron> 10:44 <klystron> make suggestion on if its possible to get Ubuntu recognised thus allowing a live boot and install
[10:03] <ducasse> klystron: have you looked for a firmware update?
[10:06] <klystron> the Beelink is a Chinese product and is very new their tech support support is non existent  - the product was only released in April this year so doubt there would be any firmware update yet
[10:07] <klystron> I have tried various Linux bleeding edge distros but the same error codes persist
[10:07] <ducasse> klystron: ok. it was just a guess, it looks like a shoddy firmware issue to me...
[10:08] <klystron> yes it would appear so - but i was wondering if the efi shell scrip could be modified
[10:09] <ducasse> klystron: i would guess that it will eventually be worked around, but i couldn't even find a specific bug report. you might want to file one.
[10:10] <klystron> how do i go about filing a bug report?
[10:10] <klystron> are there any uefi channels on freeserver?
[10:12] <ducasse> klystron: you could file an ubuntu bug, but it is probably an upstream issue. if you file it on launchpad, i expect they will tell you if you need to file it with kernel.org.
[10:13] <ducasse> klystron: you could of course file an upstream bug immediately, but they won't touch it if you haven't tried a vanilla kernel to confirm it exists there.
[10:13] <Dev_> How can I file a bug about this problem?
[10:13] <Dev_> http://askubuntu.com/questions/792813/ubuntu-16-04-sound-menu-unable-to-select-2-0-output-in-asus-xonar-ds
[10:13] <klystron> it would seem to me that the efi shell is another way to lock out a Linux distro without using secure boot more so since the product ships with Windows 10 pre-installed
[10:14] <klystron> can you define what you mean by a vanilla kernel?
[10:15] <EriC^^> klystron: what's the problem?
[10:15] <klystron> as any one experienced the following error codes when trying to run a live Ubuntu 16.04 64bit uefi version: efi: requested map not found; failed to find cpu0 module: esrt: ESRT header is not in the map ---- the hardware is a Beelink BT7 running Windows 10 with the latest Intel 64 bit quad 4 CPU -- no secure boot appears to be implemented: but I suspect this is an shell scripting issue of the efi bios can anyone help or
[10:15] <klystron> 10:44 <klystron> make suggestion on if its possible to get Ubuntu recognised thus allowing a live boot and install
[10:15] <klystron> thats the problem
[10:16] <MaxFrames> I've upgraded from lubuntu 14.04 to 16.04.01 and now when I launch "software updates" I get a message "unable to install all updates"
[10:16] <MaxFrames> it gives me the option to "perform a partial upgrade" or "continue"
[10:16] <MaxFrames> what is this and what shoud I do?
[10:16] <isene> After a wakeup from suspend, I often find encounter two font issues (none of them, one of them or both): My three conkys running on my desktop has got their fonts wiped out (no letters at all), my gtk-apps have most of the letters missing. To fix the conky problem, I simply restart the conkys. To fix the gtk font issue, I have to go into gnome-tweek-tool and change the fonts back and forth until they are fine
[10:16] <isene> again. Is this a known issue? How to fix?
[10:17] <klystron> have tried booting from a live usb and various Live DVD's the above errors are displayed then the screen HDMI goes blank and thats as far as it gets.
[10:19] <klystron> Also if you try and do a memory check the same errors are displayed and the screen goes black and fails to run a memory check
[10:19] <FLHerne> Hi
[10:20] <FLHerne> After updating to 16.04, one system failed to boot, dropped straight into grub-rescue
[10:20] <ducasse> klystron: they might have just made the firmware to work with windows instead of doing it properly, my guess is they never tested anything else...
[10:21] <FLHerne> It's got four 465GB drives in RAID5 using Intel's fake-raid
[10:21] <MaxFrames> I've done sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade, and the latter says that 3 packages have been kept to the current version (3 packages not updated)
[10:21] <House> can someone point me to a primer or a forum focusing on desktop environments and window managers?  i cant really tell the (functional) different between the ones i've got installed
[10:22] <FLHerne> One ~250MB boot partition, one tiny partition I think is unused, big LVM volume containing everything else
[10:22] <MaxFrames> libchamplain-0.12-0 libclutter-1.0-0 libclutter-gtk-1.0-0
[10:22] <klystron> quite possible or they found a way to lock out linux
[10:22] <klystron> without activating secure boot
[10:23] <FLHerne> I reinstalled GRUB; now I at least get a real GRUB menu/cli, but loading the 4.4 vmlinuz gets the error `attempt to read or write outside of partition`
[10:23] <MaxFrames> if I click on "partial upgrade" it looks like it's installing 16.04 again???
[10:23] <ducasse> klystron: 'never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by stupidity', it's probably just the former.
[10:23] <FLHerne> The old 3.8 one does load, but then the corresponding initrd gets the same error instead
[10:23] <klystron> maybe
[10:24] <ducasse> MaxFrames: try 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[10:24] <MaxFrames> what does that do?
[10:24] <FLHerne> There are 512Kib sectors and ~260GB of space used, which makes me suspect there's a 2^32 sector limit in the BIOS
[10:24] <FLHerne> Any suggestions?
[10:24] <ducasse> MaxFrames: see the difference between upgrade and dist-upgrade in 'man apt-get'
[10:25] <ducasse> MaxFrames: essentialy, it removes old packages when necessary
[10:26] <MaxFrames> ok, I will try
[10:26] <FLHerne> But then, the actual boot partition is much smaller and in front of the big one
[10:28] <klystron> if you goggle beelink BT7 Mini PC ATOM X7 Z8700 Quad CPU you can see the specs - it is a very small profile PC and Windows 10 runs very fast - used for Video media streaming
[10:29] <klystron> also very low power consumption
[10:30] <lss> hello pepple
[10:30] <lss> i am so boring
[10:30] <klystron> its just a pity not being able to install Linux as a dual boot option
[10:30] <ducasse> klystron: experience still tells me never to trust small chinese companies to do a proper job with these things...
[10:31] <lss> so! i want somebody chat with me!!!
[10:31] <MaxFrames> lss: if you're so boring, no wonder no one wants to chat with you
[10:31] <k1l_> !ot | lss
[10:32] <madsj> hi, I'm a bit desperate. I did a dist-upgrade, but now apt-get isn't working :-( some warning about missing symbols in glibcxx
[10:32] <klystron> well lets hope they got some very big companies for the new nuclear power station!
[10:32] <ducasse> klystron: :)
[10:32] <lss> ok
[10:32] <k1l_> madsj: show the full output in a pastebin and link it here
[10:32] <lss> i am play with my brother
[10:33] <ducasse> klystron: as i said, it can probably be worked around, start by filing an ubuntu bug against the kernel
[10:33] <lss> 有中国人么
[10:34] <tshirtman> hello, i've been using ubuntu for a long time, and using a different wm (i3) for a few years, but still using stuff like unity-control-center to manage stuff, and it did work great if the older versions, but since i updated to 16.04, unity-control-center was mostly empty, i found a few people that had the same issue googling around, and their solution was to reinstall a few packages, i tried
[10:34] <tshirtman> that, and it never changed a thing, i just tried logging into unity instead of i3, and everything was there, logging back in i3, still mostly empty, so i suspect some supporting daemon is not running (unity-settings-daemon is there, of course), or some other reason prevents the things to be there outside of unity, any idea?
[10:34] <tshirtman> i'd like not to think that because i'm not using ubuntu exactly like the designers intended, doesn't mean ubuntu is not for me anymore, after a good decade of good service
[10:34] <chatboy> who learn java will
[10:35] <k1l_> chatboy: this channel here is technical ubuntu support only. for chat please use #ubuntu-offtopic or #chat
[10:38] <chatboy> 在编译FFMpeg android版时出现的问题-没有那个文件或目录
[10:38] <chatboy> Unknown option "".
[10:38] <chatboy> See ./configure --help for available options.
[10:38] <chatboy> ./ba.sh: 行 11: --prefix=/home/ndk/ffmpeg/android/arm: 没有那个文件或目录
[10:38] <chatboy> ./ba.sh: 行 13: --enable-shared: 未找到命令
[10:39] <chatboy> ./ba.sh: 行 14: --disable-static: 未找到命令
[10:39] <ducasse> !cn | chatboy
[10:39] <klystron> of course the other option is using virtual machine within windows10 but this raises problems with accessing usb's and ports since a Linux distro is required to run a gunradio server
[10:40] <klystron> and also accessing audio streams
[10:41] <ducasse> klystron: you might be able to stream the audio, but that could introduce latency if that matters
[10:41] <Arpho> hi all
[10:41] <ducasse> klystron: try asking in ##linux if anyone has run any distro at all on that.
[10:41] <klystron> yes and the server has to allow a minimum of 10 remote clients
[10:42] <klystron> so could introduce audio underruns and over runs
[10:42] <Arpho> anyone have a hint what to do with 16.04 on macbook air 2013 power usage? 14.04 is flawless in this respect, even better than os x, but 16.04 has quite a regression. Tried the usual powertop stuff, disabled card reader too, still not the same.
[10:43] <Arpho> Any hint will be appreciated.
[10:43] <EriC^^> !mac | Arpho you might find info here
[10:45] <klystron> anyway thanks very much for your help and suggestions
[10:45] <Arpho> ubottu: this one is the closest for me: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookAir6-2/Wily
[10:45] <Arpho> not for Xenial, but Wily is the next best thing.
[10:45] <Arpho> !mac
[10:45] <ducasse> klystron: no problem, try filing a bug and hear with the ##linux crowd if they have gotten anything running
[10:46] <Arpho> Shit, ok, newbie fail. Thanks Eric^^.
[10:46] <klystron> ok thanks
[10:46] <klystron> will do
[10:46] <EriC^^> Arpho: :D
[10:48] <reloafaa> hi guys
[10:49] <reloafaa> when evre i play flighgear my ubuntu keeps getting stuck and freezes???
[10:50] <madsj> I can't paste into a pastebin, since not even X11 is starting, but I get
[10:51] <reloafaa> WideBot: how do i list block devices,as lsblk is not present? and see all external devices conected to the PC,as my fdisk too doesnt show them unlike linux fdisk -l?
[10:51] <reloafaa> when evre i play flighgear my ubuntu keeps getting stuck and freezes???
[10:51] <k1l_> reloafaa: well. look into "dmesg" or "syslog" after the reboot in /var/log/ or in the old logs of those what happend before the crash
[10:51] <madsj> apt-get: relocation-error: /usr/lib/x86-64-linux-gnu/libapt-pkg.so-5.0 Symbol_ZNKSt7__cxx1112basic_stringIcSt11char_traits (only a fragment, since I have to have to use a writing pad and note down the error message)
[10:51] <ducasse> reloafaa: why don't you have lsblk? which ubuntu version?
[10:53] <Andrzej> madsj: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Pastebinit
[10:53] <k1l_> madsj: "<command> | nc termbin.com 9999" will make it paste to a pastebin and give you a url.
[10:57] <madsj> k1l_: termbin.com/xj8r
[10:57] <reloafaa> ducasse: its about ubuntu 64 bit on 8GB ram due to much load of flightgear freesez?
[10:57] <madsj> thank you ;-) this command was quite helpful
[10:59] <user> coders
[10:59] <ducasse> reloafaa: i'd rather suspect a video driver bug, but i'm not an expert on debugging those.
[11:00] <k1l_> madsj: any PPAs in use?
[11:00] <reloafaa> ducasse:   i think for many ubuntu freesez on too much load? like games
[11:00] <k1l_> madsj: "grep ^ /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | nc termbin.com 9999"
[11:00] <ducasse> reloafaa: no, video driver problems are far more common
[11:01] <reloafaa> ducasse: my dear i use arch and all works fine? whow? when same drivers?
[11:02] <ducasse> reloafaa: arch is not ubuntu, many things are different.
[11:04] <madsj> k1l_: termbin.com/lru5
[11:04] <ducasse> reloafaa: you are not running the same kernel, and most likely different gl libraries etc even if you use the same video driver version
[11:04] <k1l_> madsj: sudo ppa-purge ppa:ubuntu-toolchain-r/test
[11:06] <reloafaa> ducasse: so if i use new kerel it makes a significant diff?
[11:07] <reloafaa> ducasse: what are the otehr serious advantags of using a new kernel?
[11:07] <reloafaa> arether  any at al
[11:09] <ducasse> reloafaa: _don't_ use a non-standard kernel. it is not supported.
[11:15] <madsj> k1l_: ppa-purge is not a command on my system :-/
[11:15] <reloafaa> ducasse: for Virtual box , i use iso in storage to install,then i close it,and remove the iso and then i boot the installed OS, is this the actual way? i mean i remove it from the storage? and what should i use IDE or SATA controller?
[11:16] <madsj> and I get a hint that I need to install it with the "universe" package
[11:16] <reloafaa> i want to use the advanced controller,which give me more control?
[11:17] <k1l_> madsj: the issue you have comes from the testing libstdc++ from that testing ppa
[11:17] <madsj> k1l_: yes, but how do I remove the ppa without the command?
[11:18] <maki-web> hey i have question when i open some need root auth authority (like synaptic) it's not show the "type password" window
[11:18] <madsj> I found the exact same command googling, but I can't run the ppa-purge command, since I don't have "universe" installed
[11:18] <madsj> why did I have to upgrade with dist-upgrade :/
[11:19] <k1l_> madsj: universe is a ubuntu repo. you can enable that with writing it in your sources.list
[11:20] <madsj> hmm, but how do I even run the apt-get command with that glibcxx error
[11:21] <dngonb> madsj: is there a -f switch to apt-get? (force)
[11:21] <ikonia> -f wo'nt matter
[11:22] <ikonia> if it can't run as the c library is smashed
[11:22] <dngonb> ok :(
[11:22] <madsj> I saw some hints on installing glibc with dpkg
[11:22] <ikonia> yes, that will also require glibc
[11:22] <ikonia> pretty much everything will require a stable glibc - thats why you never touch it
[11:22] <k1l_> madsj: wget the package from here and then use dpkg -i
[11:23] <madsj> k1l_: could you please post a link?
[11:23] <k1l_> madsj: ah forgot the linkt :) http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/libstdc++6
[11:23] <k1l_> PPAs even labeled as testing. this is the expected result. you need to fixstuff afterwards
[11:24] <madsj> last time I do dist-upgrade; I had an issue once before a couple of years ago
[11:24] <ikonia> I have no idea why people would pull this unless they really understand what they are doing
[11:24] <ikonia> madsj: why is that testing PPA enabled on your system
[11:27] <ACoooo> Wait, what is so wrong with dist-upgrade? My friend always told me to use dist-upgrade instead of simple upgrade.
[11:27] <ACoooo> I mean, I never had any problems with it
[11:28] <k1l_> ACoooo: there is nothing wrong. you need that to get the kernel updates etc.
[11:28] <ducasse> ACoooo: the problem here isn't dist-upgrade, it's a ppa specifically marked as testing
[11:28] <k1l_> ACoooo: the issue here is that the user has a ton of bad PPAs on his system and so he gets some faulty packages as updates.
[11:28] <ACoooo> ah yes, you are right about kernel updates
[11:29] <dngonb> Maybe a complete reinstall is in place?
[11:31] <dngonb> Is it possible to get automatic windows resize to a quarter of the desktop area by dragging a window to the corner in Ubuntu?
[11:32] <k1l_> dngonb: which desktop is in use?
[11:32] <ACoooo> Im using lubuntu and I can tell you that it is possible just a little bit of hassle to make :D
[11:32] <k1l_> dngonb: because that should be standard on unity
[11:32] <dngonb> kll_: I use Xenial.
[11:33] <k1l_> dngonb: which desktop? unity, gnome-shell, kde, xfce, mate,...
[11:33] <dngonb> Ah I run it in Virtualbox on Windows.
[11:33] <dngonb> I think it's unity?
[11:33] <ACoooo> ok but what "version"
[11:33] <ACoooo> ubuntu, lubuntu, kubuntu?
[11:34] <dngonb> Ubuntu 16.04.
[11:34] <k1l_> dngonb: look into "unity-tweak-tool"
[11:34] <ACoooo> I believe that by default you can only resize windows when moving left and right, not sure about corners
[11:35] <dngonb> kll_: where can i find it?
[11:35] <Conna> ?
[11:35] <k1l_> dngonb: maybe you need to isntall it first. look into the software center
[11:36] <Guest43704> hello everyone, i want to inquire my matplotlib version.what command should i use in my terminal
[11:36] <dngonb> kll_: It's installed now. Where can I find the version?
[11:36] <ACoooo> dngonb, you might need to google this one :D
[11:37] <dngonb> lol
[11:37] <ACoooo> let me check real quick
[11:37] <k1l_> dngonb: press the windows-button (called "super button") then type unity-tweak-tool and then start the program
[11:38] <dngonb> and then :)
[11:39] <k1l_> then look for the setting. i dont know what that is named in your language :)
[11:39] <dngonb> There is something called Hotcorners
[11:39] <tshirtman> so, adding "export XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP=GNOME" in my .profile nearly solved my problem (nearl empty unity-control-center in i3), almost everything is there, but when i select displays in it, i get "couldn't get screen information"
[11:39] <k1l_> i geuss 2nd row, 4th setting
[11:39] <dngonb> kll_: Window snapping?
[11:40] <ACoooo> that looks right
[11:40] <k1l_> yes, something like that
[11:40] <ACoooo> try it, click everywhere :D
[11:40] <dngonb> kll_: thanks i will try it out. :)
[11:41] <dngonb> Do I need to logout and log in again?
[11:42] <dngonb> For changes to happen.
[11:42] <k1l_> dont know, doesnt it work right after setting it? then maybe you need to logout
[11:43] <dngonb> No it doesn't work. I will try logout.
[11:46] <madsj> ikonia: no idea, it was just default when upgrading
[11:46] <madsj> anyway, I'm now able to run apt-get :d
[11:47] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[11:51] <dngonb> Hi again it works now, but I had to install compizconfig-settings-manager. It doesn't work with Unity Tweak Tool.
[11:52] <timini> Hey I'm trying to boot my ubuntu machine and just getting to the initramfs prompt,
[11:52] <timini> can anyone recommend how I can diagnnose what the actual problem is?
[11:53] <dngonb> timini: can you run dmesg?
[11:56] <timini> dngonb: Ive booted to live cd
[11:56] <timini> I can restart and try to rundmesg from the initramfs prompt
[11:56] <timini> What should I look for?
[12:02] <dngonb> timini: I don't know. Maybe this can guide you http://www.linuxnix.com/what-is-linuxunix-dmesg-command-and-how-to-use-it/
[12:03] <timini> thanks
[12:04] <dngonb> timini: here is another guide http://www.howtogeek.com/196740/how-to-fix-an-ubuntu-system-when-it-wont-boot/
[12:06] <madsj> ikonia: and now I'm at least to run X11 :D
[12:11] <ikonia> pretty sure that repo is nothing to do with upgrading
[12:12] <jamie_1> hey, right now im getting an interesting issue, sometimes when my computer goes to sleep when I close the lid the touchpad stops working but the dot mouse still works. If i restart my computer it starts working again. does anyone know what might be causing things and how to restart the daemon that handles the mouse?
[12:14] <guzzlefry> Any idea as to why my bluetooth mouse won't work in Xubuntu? It's a Logitech MX Master. The blueman GUI says it paired, but it lists as an unknown type of device.
[12:15] <dngonb> jamie_1: maybe this helps http://tuxtrix.com/2010/06/restarting-your-touchpadmouse-in-ubuntu-in-simple-steps.html
[12:16] <jamie_1> dngonb: ill take a look real fast thanks
[12:16] <l9> why dosent  my home folder mount without ecryptfs-mount-private
[12:19] <madsj> ikonia: I have no idea, it probably got there by some experiment. However, other people have had the same issue. I'm happy since I seem to have Ubuntu 16.04 running (with some stuff to resolve, though, but it's at least booting properly)
[12:20] <ikonia> madsj: I assume you've removed and disabled that repo
[12:20] <madsj> k1l_: thank you for helping
[12:20] <madsj> ikonia: yes
[12:20] <jamie_1> dngonb: no now my dot mouse isnt even working
[12:21] <dngonb> jamie_1: sorry about that :(
[12:21] <obr7> Hi. Will my "16.04 apt" work behind my "14.04 apt-cacher-ng"?
[12:21] <dngonb> jamie_1: maybe you need to reboot to get it working?
[12:22] <jamie_1> dngonb: i know it will work if i do... but im tired of having to do that
[12:23] <jamie_1> i do it all the time, its getting annoying and slowing me down working on my builds
[12:23] <dngonb> jamie_1: yeah i understand.
[12:25] <telanus> is there a way to skip the "save screenshot" dialogue?
[12:25] <dngonb> jamie_1: maybe this will not mess with your drivers when you close the lid http://askubuntu.com/questions/15520/how-can-i-tell-ubuntu-to-do-nothing-when-i-close-my-laptop-lid
[12:26] <l9> ecryptfs-mount-private
[12:26] <l9> why do i need too run that every time i open a xterm
[12:26] <l9> =
[12:26] <dngonb> jamie_2: maybe this will not mess with your drivers when you close the lid http://askubuntu.com/questions/15520/how-can-i-tell-ubuntu-to-do-nothing-when-i-close-my-laptop-lid
[12:28] <dell> hi
[12:29] <jamie_1> dngonb: i need it to go to sleep so it doesnt ill my batter, and honestly its just a nuisance not like a major issue. just would be nice to have my mouse work when i open the lid... and it only takes like 10 seconds to boot anyways
[12:30] <ducasse> l9: pam should handle that on login. maybe you haven't activated the pam module to handle ecryptfs?
[12:30] <dngonb> dngonb: ok i don't run ubuntu natively myself so I haven't seen this problem before. maybe your computer vendor has some suggetions?
[12:31] <dngonb> jamie_1: ok i don't run ubuntu natively myself so I haven't seen this problem before. maybe your computer vendor has some suggetions?
[12:32] <mchasard> hi
[12:33] <mchasard> i just update to 16.04 but it boot under the bad partition .. grub error ..
[12:33] <e73kiel> +t
[12:33] <e73kiel> y
[12:33] <mchasard> if i change partition i can see the grub menu and bootto ubuntu
[12:34] <mchasard> how can i launch without change partition
[12:34] <e73kiel> i cannot use mcedit on my debian 3.1 servers when i connect from Ubuntu 16.04
[12:35] <k1l> e73kiel: does it work from other OS when you connect?
[12:35] <e73kiel> let me try
[12:36] <k1l> e73kiel: because that sounds more like a server issue. not a client issue
[12:36] <jamie_1> dngonb: its a lenovo thinkpad... all of moz uses them on linux and primarily ubuntu... so im pretty sure its not a hardware communication issue
[12:36] <HoloIRCUser3> When I boot Ubuntu from USB to mypc kernel panic not syncing errors
[12:37] <HoloIRCUser3> How to slove help me
[12:38] <mchasard> otherwise how to get videos working on midori and epiphany
[12:38] <mchasard> ?
[12:38] <mchasard> with firefox its ok
[12:39] <dell> 0zi+
[12:41] <k1l> e73kiel: what is the error then?
[12:42] <mchasard> so is there somebodies who could help me please ?
[12:43] <Haris> hello all
[12:43] <Haris> what's the mod ssl pkg for apache2 on Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS ?
[12:44] <Haris> I found 'libapache2-mod-gnutls' with aptitude search apache|egrep -i ssl. but it doesn't seem the real one, since the pkg description shows it doesn't use openssl
[12:44] <Haris> what's the mod ssl pkg for apache2 on Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS ?
[12:45] <ctjctj> Haris, patence.
[12:45] <Haris> my bad
[12:48] <k1l_> Haris: sudo a2enmod ssl
[12:48] <ctjctj> Haris, I'm looking it up for you.
[12:49] <Pici> Haris: I don't beleive there is a separate package for it.
[12:49] <Haris> ah ok
[12:49] <Pici> Haris: just do a a2enmod ssl
[12:49] <Haris> done
[12:49] <Haris> =)
[12:49] <ctjctj> Pici, Haris verified "apache2-bin"
[12:50] <Haris> hmm
[12:53] <ctjctj> Did you restart apache2 after enabling the mod?
[12:57] <Captain_Proton> Is there a way to enable double on the location in nautilus/files so i can edit the path
[13:00] <bitnap> Do you need a powerful computer to use ubuntu?
[13:00] <Captain_Proton> no, what do you have?
[13:01] <ctjctj> bitnap, there are hardware requirements but in general any linux is much less of a resource hog than Windows.
[13:01] <bitnap> What about cinnamon?
[13:02] <ctjctj> No idea what cinnamon is.  But, if your machine is very low powered you can use one of the light weight distributions based on Ubuntu.  bodhi is the one I just tried and looks like it would work for older hardware.  There is also lubuntu
[13:03] <Captain_Proton> bitnap, do you know what OS your computer you has windows XP, vista ..?
[13:03] <bitnap> Win 10
[13:03] <Andrzej> bitnap: if ofcourse depends on what PC do you want to put it one but in most cases you will be fine with any desktop environment
[13:03] <ctjctj> If it boots Windows 10 Ubuntu will fly
[13:03] <Captain_Proton> bitnap, so it newer?
[13:03] <bitnap> I have 8gb ram
[13:03] <Andrzej> ctjctj: cinnamon in desktop environment like unity, gnome, kde
[13:04] <ctjctj> Andrzej, thanks.
[13:04] <Captain_Proton> bitnap: you can run anything you want
[13:04] <Andrzej> bitnap: you will be fine with ANYTHING, just choose whatever you like
[13:05] <ctjctj> bitnap, I was worried that you had a machine that came with windows 95 on it....
[13:06] <Andrzej> bitnap: I recommend starting with vanilla Ubuntu (it have Unity desktop environment) and if you will get familiar with it then try different flavours of ubuntu like Ubuntu Gnome, Ubuntu Mate, Xubuntu, Lubuntu, Kubuntu etc.
[13:06] <Andrzej> you can run all of them from pendrive, don't have to install on your hard drive
[13:06] <bitnap> I only have a 500gb ssd
[13:07] <ctjctj> bitnap, that's plenty big enough.
[13:07] <Andrzej> bitnap: 500GB SSD thats a lot!
[13:07] <Andrzej> you would be fine on 60GB
[13:07] <bitnap> Would 60gb be enough if you use vmware workstation?
[13:08] <Andrzej> I've put once fully working system on 8GB internal SSD + 8GB SD card at it was running fine with plenty of space for user files
[13:09] <Andrzej> bitnap: yes, it's safe to say that installation wshould not take more than 8GB, for safety 20GB is reasonable minimum if you want to install some apps and copy some files
[13:09] <ctjctj> bitnap, when I do a test install of a linux on a VM I normally only give it 15Gb.    But I'm a specail case.
[13:10] <bitnap> Should I install my home partition on my root partition?
[13:10] <bitnap> I herd it was easier to manage
[13:10] <Andrzej> bitnap: if you are installing in VM just go with default paritioning
[13:11] <cuckholder> Hi
[13:11] <Andrzej> bitnap: I am doing default even on proper installs
[13:11] <cuckholder> is there a way to mute people that are joining the chat
[13:11] <bitnap> e /ignore
[13:12] <cuckholder> thanks
[13:12] <Pici> !quietirc | cuckholder
[13:12] <cuckholder> thanks
[13:12] <Andrzej> bitnap: people that are putting / and /home on different partitions they means different drives, if you have one drive it doesnt make any sense to partition you hd for that
[13:13] <LMGN> help. I'm trying to mount my network shares
[13:14] <ctjctj> bitnap, back in the days when you ran unix on a 10mb  drive root was a separate partition to protect it from users.  And since there were lots of users per machine it was easy to run out of disk space.  Today disks are so cheap and so plentiful that isn't as much of an issue.  In addition, you are normally the only person on the system so if the root partition runs out of space you know who did it.
[13:14] <LMGN> I get mount error(22): Invalid argument Refer to the mount.cifs(8) manual page (e.g. man mount.cifs) and CIFS VFS: Malformed UNC in devname.
[13:14] <Andrzej> having /home on different partition helps only if that partition is on different drive or you are distro hopping and want to move your settings and files quickly to new system
[13:15] <LMGN> my fstab //192.168.1.14 /media/mainpc cifs credentials=/home/lmgn/.pccredentials,iocharset=utf8,sec=ntlm 0 0
[13:18] <LMGN> Why arn't my network shares mounting? http://paste.ubuntu.com/21756416/
[13:18] <EriC^^> LMGN: shouldn't you give it something other than //192.168.1.14 ?
[13:18] <EriC^^> like //192.168.1.14:/something ?
[13:19] <Captain_Proton> e /ignore
[13:19] <Pici> yes, without the :
[13:19] <Haris> thank you all
[13:19] <LMGN> The problem is, I share /c and /d on there, and i'd like to mount them in the same folder
[13:19] <bitnap> that's a private ip
[13:19] <LMGN> like two sub folders
[13:19] <LMGN> i know
[13:19] <LMGN> it's on my network
[13:19] <Pici> LMGN: You'd need to mount them separately
[13:20] <LMGN> oh k.
[13:20] <Pici> LMGN: create your own c and d subfolders in there and mount them into them... its a bit annoying but its the way it works.
[13:20] <LMGN> i see
[13:20] <LMGN> okay i'll go do that forboth network shares
[13:20] <adroit_machine> how do I open .iso and .nrg file under ubuntu
[13:21] <EriC^^> adroit_machine: double click on it
[13:21] <bitnap> extract
[13:21] <LMGN> wait what
[13:21] <LMGN> it says mount: only root can mount //192.168.1.14 on /media/mainpc
[13:22] <EriC^^> LMGN: yeah you need sudo
[13:22] <LMGN> okay
[13:22] <bitnap> sudo su
[13:22] <LMGN> i'll hop on my main pc and usessh
[13:22] <adroit_machine> double click doesn't open it, EriC^^
[13:22] <bitnap> with leave root on
[13:22] <LMGN> because this keyboard is horrible
[13:22] <EriC^^> LMGN: you can add "users" to the options in fstab so anyone can mount if you want that
[13:22] <EriC^^> adroit_machine: try right click archive mounter
[13:23] <bitnap> You can use this ruby script to make users http://pastebin.com/u4eR9j0x
[13:23] <LMGN> brb
[13:23] <bitnap> made it myself
[13:23] <adroit_machine> EriC^^: kde doesn't have archive mounter
[13:24] <EriC^^> try installing it
[13:25] <Andrzej> bitnap: why you need script for that?
[13:26] <Andrzej> its sudo adduser newusername
[13:26] <Andrzej> its done automatically!
[13:26] <bitnap> It makes users
[13:27] <bitnap> without having to enter in a bunch of add users
[13:27] <bitnap> in the cli
[13:27] <Andrzej> bitnap: yes, but adduser command is making user as well
[13:27] <Andrzej> bitnap: but your script logs passwords in clear text!
[13:27] <bitnap> still working on it
[13:27] <adroit_machine> EriC^^: what is the name of archive monter package
[13:27] <Andrzej> thats wildly unsecure
[13:29] <Captain_Proton> Is there a way to enable double on the location in nautilus/files so i can edit the path
[13:29] <ikonia> enable double ?
[13:30] <skinux> Where is the setting to make Unity panel horizontal?
[13:30] <Captain_Proton> you use to able to double click home and it turn to unc path 16.04 does not do that atless I can tel
[13:30] <Captain_Proton> l
[13:31] <Andrzej> skinux:  http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2016/03/ubuntu-16-04-move-unity-launcher-to-bottom/
[13:32] <adroit_machine> how do i open .iso and .nrg files under ubuntu kde
[13:32] <Andrzej> adroit_machine: what do you want to do with them?
[13:32] <skinux> Thanks
[13:32] <adroit_machine> Andrzej: I have some old photographs in an .iso file
[13:33] <Andrzej> adroit_machine: sudo mount -o loop path/to/iso/file/YOUR_ISO_FILE.ISO /media/iso assumint you have /media/iso created
[13:34] <Captain_Proton> ikonia: You can goto "Go > edit location" that just annoyin
[13:34] <adroit_machine> Andrzej: is there any GUI application to do the same
[13:34] <mcphail> Captain_Proton: just press ctrl-L
[13:35] <Andrzej> adroit_machine: yes, Furious ISO Mount sudo apt-get install furiusisomount
[13:35] <Captain_Proton> mcphail: Thanks, better then nothing :P
[13:35] <adroit_machine> thanks, Andrzej
[13:37] <kamild1996> Hello, I want to install Ubuntu alongside Windows on my laptop, using my USB drive. However, when I choose the automated option to do that (Install Xubuntu alongside Windows), Ubuntu installer wants to install it on my USB drive instead of my actual hard drive. How can I tell it to use my HDD instead?
[13:40] <Andrzej> kamild1996: unless there is some kind of dropdown where you can select the drive I think you will have to go with manual partitioning
[13:40] <tonyt> hi all. is upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04 doable yet?
[13:40] <rajivmars> I have just installed virtualbox 5.0.24 by using the command "sudo apt install virtualbox". Everything works fine, but it is not showing the options to install 64-bit guest operating systems? How do i fix this?
[13:40] <Andrzej> kamild1996: maybe your hard drive is not visible, that could be UEFI issue
[13:40] <kamild1996> It's not using UEFI, also the drive is visible in the manual partitioning menu
[13:41] <kamild1996> Can you lead me through that, Andrzej? I tried going through manual partitioning but it caused my PC to not boot anymore, with the "error: no such partition" message (boot-repair didn't help)
[13:41] <Andrzej> kamild1996: so now you don't have partitions ?
[13:41] <Andrzej> kamild1996: is it booting to windows?
[13:42] <kamild1996> It wasn't, but using bootfix via Windows ISO made it to work. I have a bunch of partitions now, let me say all of them to you
[13:43] <EriC^^> kamild1996: sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[13:43] <kamild1996> Was about to write them all one by one lol, thx EriC
[13:43] <EriC^^> kamild1996: no problem :D
[13:44] <kamild1996> http://termbin.com/skmf
[13:45] <SuperMechaCow> kamild1996, your partitions look good to me
[13:45] <EriC^^> kamild1996: linux looks installed already
[13:45] <kamild1996> Because I created them manually. But the problem is I'm not sure how to make GRUB work correctly now.
[13:45] <skinux> I can't connect to MySQL after upgrade to Xenial
[13:45] <kamild1996> Right now, it's not installed and only Windows boots up.
[13:46] <SuperMechaCow> kamild1996, what you want to do is go to "something else" in the install linux manually then
[13:46] <tonyt> is it possible to upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04 yet?
[13:46] <hackeron> Hi there, I'm seeing this: https://www.dropbox.com/s/5o71yczfv5zee2y/viber%20image-1.jpg?dl=0 - despite setting FSCKFIX=yes in /etc/default/rcS on Ubuntu 16.04 - any ideas?
[13:46] <kamild1996> I'm here right now, SuperMechaCow.
[13:46] <SuperMechaCow> make sure your "SDA" or whatever your HDD is is slected in the dropdown
[13:46] <kamild1996> Just "SDA", and not a specific partition?
[13:46] <SuperMechaCow> right
[13:46] <EriC^^> kamild1996: that's pretty noraml
[13:47] <EriC^^> *normal, which model.. nevermind
[13:47] <EriC^^> just remembered you're not using uefi
[13:47] <SuperMechaCow> kamild1996, the grub goes on the boot sector of the HDD, and not on a partition
[13:47] <kamild1996> I see, so after selecting /dev/sda I should proceed and "Install Now"?
[13:47] <EriC^^> kamild1996: try to reinstall grub from a liveusb
[13:47] <SuperMechaCow> kamild1996, yes. grub will find windows
[13:48] <Andrzej> kamild1996: ok, so please mind that I may be wrong, and wait maybe someone will give you better solution but I would nuke partition 3 and 5 under windows, create FAT32 partition where they was and point ubuntu installer to that new partition as destination, ubuntu should understand what you mean and automatically format FAT32 to ext4 and partition in to its needs
[13:48] <skinux> Anyone had problems connecting to MySQL after Xenial upgrade?
[13:48] <kamild1996> I tried reinstalling GRUB via boot-repair, it didn't help sadly EriC
[13:48] <EriC^^> kamild1996: try to manually do it to see any errors and whatnot
[13:49] <EriC^^> kamild1996: type sudo mount /dev/sda5 /mnt
[13:49] <Andrzej> skinux: yes, there was error in update of mysql mysqld was not starting, just restart it and should be fine
[13:49] <kamild1996> Should I start Ubuntu Live or just use the terminal via Ctrl+Shift+T?
[13:49] <EriC^^> kamild1996: if you're in the live session use the terminal
[13:49] <skinux> Failed to start mysqld.service: Unit mysqld.service not found.
[13:50] <SuperMechaCow> kamild1996, either will work if you are in a live usb now. but i recommend just installing the system normally for now
[13:50] <EriC^^> kamild1996: or ctrl+alt+f1 to get a terminal and login as "ubuntu"
[13:50] <Andrzej> skinux: there is your problem, you don't have mysql?
[13:50] <skinux> I did before the upgrade
[13:50] <Andrzej> do you have now? mysql -v
[13:50] <kamild1996> This is exactly how I tried installing it previously, Cow, and it didn't work so I'd like to try EriC's method first
[13:50] <Andrzej> mysql --version
[13:51] <skinux> Should I install mysql-server or maria?
[13:51] <SuperMechaCow> kamild1996, Ok :)
[13:51] <skinux> Crap, that means all my databases are gone
[13:51] <skinux> I forgot to back those up
[13:51] <kamild1996> Mounted it, EriC. What now?
[13:51] <Andrzej> skinux: depends for what? server or dev box?
[13:52] <skinux> I use SQL for testing websites
[13:52] <EriC^^> kamild1996: type the following
[13:52] <EriC^^> kamild1996: for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[13:52] <rajivmars> anybody please help?
[13:52] <skinux> Ahh...looks like it's upgrading all my databases :D
[13:53] <Andrzej> skinux: that may take time
[13:53] <kamild1996> Done
[13:53] <EriC^^> kamild1996: sudo chroot /mnt
[13:53] <kamild1996> Switched to root@xubuntu
[13:53] <skinux> I don't mind if it takes a bit.
[13:53] <EriC^^> kamild1996: try grub-install --recheck /dev/sda
[13:53] <SuperMechaCow> rajivmars, Just a shot in the dark, but are you sure you have all of the virtualiztion options enabled on your motherboard?
[13:54] <kamild1996> EriC^^, Installation finished. No error reported.
[13:54] <body> hi
[13:54] <kamild1996> Should I try and reboot now?
[13:54] <EriC^^> kamild1996: no, try update-grub
[13:55] <sipior> rajivmars: do you satisfy the requirements listed in https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch03.html#intro-64bitguests ?
[13:55] <kamild1996> EriC^^, "done" but there's on error message. "grub-probe: error: cannot find a GRUB drive for /dev/sdb4. Check your device.map"
[13:55] <kamild1996> SDB seems to be my USB drive though
[13:56] <skinux> There we go
[13:56] <rajivmars> SuperMechaCow: I my knowledge, i have checked everything. I am using a 64-bit guest (ubuntu 16.04). is there any command to check weather my computer supports virtualization or not?
[13:56] <skinux> Thanks again
[13:56] <rajivmars> SuperMechaCow: In my knowledge, i have checked everything. I am using a 64-bit guest (ubuntu 16.04). is there any command to check weather my computer supports virtualization or not?
[13:56] <EriC^^> kamild1996: hmm, try "exit" then reboot
[13:56] <Captain_Proton> what the executable name for the file browser
[13:57] <SuperMechaCow> rajivmars, there are but I'm not sure what they are. The best way to know is your motherboard spec sheet. sipior also provided materials to double check
[13:57] <EriC^^> kamild1996: that's kind of odd, sdb only has sdb1 and sdb2, wonder why it thinks it has sdb4
[13:57] <kamild1996> EriC^^, back to this error again. "error: no such partition". I'm in grub rescue mode now
[13:57] <ducasse> rajivmars: install cpu-checker and run kvm-ok.
[13:57] <EriC^^> kamild1996: ok but now you get grub right?
[13:57] <EriC^^> earlier it just booted into windows?
[13:58] <kamild1996> EriC^^, yes
[13:58] <kamild1996> Seems to be GRUB, just not working properly as I see
[13:58] <EriC^^> kamild1996: ok, type "ls"
[13:58] <sipior> rajivmars: just run "lscpu", and see what it says.
[13:58] <kantlivelong> anyone ever seen an issue when resuming from suspend where it doesnt work around 20% of the time? if i kill power and reboot it resumes from the hibernation image
[13:58] <kamild1996> EriC^^, (hd0) (hd0,msdos3) (hd0,msdos2) (hd0,msdos1) (fd0)
[13:58] <EriC^^> kamild1996: try "ls -l" too, let me know if it works
[13:59] <kamild1996> ls -l says "no such partition"
[13:59] <EriC^^> kamild1996: ok, type echo $root
[13:59] <EriC^^> and echo $prefix
[13:59] <kamild1996> EriC^^, Unknown command 'echo'
[13:59] <EriC^^> aha
[13:59] <EriC^^> this is grub rescue> ? not grub> ?
[13:59] <LMGN_> i'm back
[14:00] <rajivmars> SuperMechaCow: i have checked every bit of my motherboard spec, i didn't find any thing named virtualization. that's why am asking you for a command to check weather my computer supports virtualization or not?
[14:00] <kamild1996> It's "grub rescue>"
[14:00] <EriC^^> kamild1996: ok, try ls (hd0,msdos3)/
[14:00] <LMGN_> okay
[14:00] <LMGN_> time to ssh
[14:00] <kamild1996> EriC^^, error: unknown filesystem.
[14:01] <SuperMechaCow> rajivmars, do you run intel or AMD?
[14:01] <EriC^^> try ls (hd0,msdos2)/
[14:01] <kamild1996> Same
[14:01] <rajivmars> SuperMechaCow:  intel.
[14:01] <EriC^^> kamild1996: ls (hd0,msdos1)/ ?
[14:02] <kamild1996> Also unknown filesystem... wth
[14:02] <EriC^^> odd
[14:02] <EriC^^> it should be able to read the ext4
[14:02] <SuperMechaCow> rajivmars,  you want to look for keywords intel IOMMU and VT-d. i will try to fidn you the command
[14:02] <ducasse> rajivmars: for intel it's usually labeled VT in the bios
[14:02] <LMGN_> So I guess I mount as different shareS? http://sx.thelmgn.com/2016/08/putty%20%283%29_2016-08-01_15-02-09.png
[14:02] <EriC^^> kamild1996: try "insmod normal"
[14:02] <EriC^^> or "insmod ext2"
[14:03] <kamild1996> EriC^^, normal failed (no such partition), ext2 didn't give an error
[14:03] <EriC^^> kamild1996: try ls (hd0,msdos3)/
[14:03] <kamild1996> EriC^^, unknown filesystem
[14:03] <EriC^^> kamild1996: ok, try booting the live usb again
[14:03] <SuperMechaCow> rajivmars, you are using virtualbox or vmware?
[14:04] <EriC^^> we can try installing the actual grub package incase it's missing stuff
[14:04] <kamild1996> Alright, I'll let you know once I boot up :)
[14:04] <kamild1996> Actually, let me try something first...
[14:04] <kamild1996> What's going on with those messages??
[14:05] <tonyt> what messages?
[14:05] <rajivmars> SuperMechaCow: i have not seen anything like these.
[14:05] <kamild1996> I was flooded with "Connection reset by peer" here in IRC
[14:05] <rajivmars> ducasse: No VT is there.
[14:05] <tonyt> netsplit is what thats called kamild1996
[14:05] <tonyt> a server got disconnected from freenode
[14:05] <DArqueBishop> kamild1996: it means a server must have had an issue and dumped everyone who was connected to it.
[14:05] <k1l_> !netsplit | kamild1996
[14:06] <rajivmars> SuperMechaCow: virtualbox.
[14:06] <ducasse> rajivmars: specifically which cpu model do you have?
[14:06] <kamild1996> That's good to know, thanks
[14:06] <rajivmars> ducasse: Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual  CPU  E2140  @ 1.60GHz
[14:07] <LMGN> So should this work? http://sx.thelmgn.com/2016/08/putty%20%283%29_2016-08-01_15-07-08.png
[14:07] <SuperMechaCow> rajivmars, your CPU does not support vt-d
[14:07] <SuperMechaCow> http://ark.intel.com/products/29738/Intel-Pentium-Processor-E2140-1M-Cache-1_60-GHz-800-MHz-FSB
[14:07] <ducasse> rajivmars: that does not support hardware virtualization at all. see http://ark.intel.com/products/29738/Intel-Pentium-Processor-E2140-1M-Cache-1_60-GHz-800-MHz-FSB
[14:08] <rajivmars> SuperMechaCow: yeah. i think you are wright. thank you for helping.
[14:08] <SuperMechaCow> rajivmars, you are welcome!
[14:08] <LMGN> right*
[14:08] <LMGN> sorry
[14:09] <rajivmars> ducasse: thanks for confirm:)
[14:09] <kamild1996> EriC^^, I'm on Ubuntu Live. What now?
[14:09] <LMGN> I'm guessing this should work? Just repeat it? http://sx.thelmgn.com/2016/08/putty%20%283%29_2016-08-01_15-07-08.png
[14:10] <ducasse> rajivmars: you can still use qemu to get software virtualization, but it will be _slow_.
[14:11] <rajivmars> ducasse: yeah. but it is better to use 32-bit that to go for a slow process.
[14:12] <rajivmars> ducasse: yeah. but it is better to use 32-bit than to go for a slow process.
[14:12] <ctjctj> rajivmars, if you are going to qemu think about using libvirt over the top to make it easier to play with.  virt-manager is a good GUI.
[14:13] <LMGN> Hey guys, will this work for mounting my drive? http://sx.thelmgn.com/2016/08/putty%20%283%29_2016-08-01_15-07-08.png
[14:13] <rajivmars> ctjctj: ok. thanks for your advice.
[14:15] <atralheaven_> Hi, I have a 900GB NTFS partition containing all of my files (musics, pics, etc.) I want to define that partition as /data in ubuntu, WITHOUT formatting it, and also be able to access it from windows. how can I do it?
[14:15] <ctjctj> mount /dev/DEVICE /data
[14:15] <ctjctj> of course automating that requires a quick update to your /etc/fstab to handle it.
[14:16] <atralheaven_> ctjctj: I meant the automation, can it be done with gparted?
[14:16] <ducasse> atralheaven_: gnome-disks can, i think
[14:16] <ctjctj> atralheaven_, Your drive is already partitioned.  No need for gparted.  It is already formated so no need for formating it.
[14:17] <akik> LMGN: you have a space between Shared and Music. that probably won't work
[14:17] <atralheaven_> ctjctj: sure, just need to be set as /data, not once, forever
[14:17] <ctjctj> atralheaven_, so you  will add a line in your fstab like: /dev/sdXn /data ntfs defaults 0 0
[14:18] <ducasse> rajivmars: i don't think you understand, _any_ virtualization you can get is software virt. you're not getting hw virt for 32-bit guests either, they will also be slow compared to hw virt.
[14:18] <ctjctj> then mkdir /data
[14:18] <ctjctj> atralheaven_, on boot it should then mount.  I'm just unsure of the filesystem type "ntfs" is what I think it is.
[14:18] <atralheaven_> by default, ubuntu uses media or mnt?
[14:19] <kamild1996> EriC^^, are you there?
[14:19] <ctjctj> atralheaven_, when ubuntu auto mounts it puts it in /media.  So plug in a thumb drive or a DVD and it will end up somewhere in /media
[14:20] <ctjctj> the /mnt is a unix default directory for temporary mounts of file systems.  So in older years before auto mount on insert drive a sysadmin would put a device on the system and then manually mount it on /mnt.
[14:21] <atralheaven_> ctjctj: so for my purpose, which one should I use?
[14:21] <ctjctj> You should use /data, like you originally requested.  "sudo mkdir /data" once and then update fstab.  Then everytime you boot your NTFS file system will be located on /data
[14:21] <atralheaven_> sudo fstab or just fstab?
[14:22] <atralheaven_> ctjctj: on the root itself, I forgot!
[14:22] <ctjctj> atralheaven_, sorry,  you sudo mkdir /data then sudo EDITOR /etc/fstab and add a line.
[14:22] <ctjctj> Here is an example from my fstab doing something of a similar nature: UUID=afbe3ea3-76aa-487c-a0a6-41399969461f /local/data	btrfs	defaults,degraded 0 2
[14:23] <Pici> atralheaven_: its sudo $EDITOR   , don't forget the $
[14:23] <EriC^^> kamild1996: sorry, back
[14:23] <ctjctj> Pici, I'm sorry, I was using the EDITOR as "replace this with your favorite editor" forgot we have variables to do that.
[14:23] <EriC^^> kamild1996: type sudo mount /dev/sda5 /mnt
[14:23] <Pici> ctjctj: oh, right ;)
[14:23] <kamild1996> EriC^^, done
[14:23] <ctjctj> didn't want to say "sudo emacs -nw /etc/fstab"
[14:24] <ctjctj> Pici and for a unknown I think it is $VISUAL
[14:24] <ctjctj> unknown experience level user that is.
[14:24] <EriC^^> kamild1996: for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[14:25] <kamild1996> EriC^^, done
[14:25] <EriC^^> kamild1996: sudo chroot /mnt
[14:25] <kamild1996> root@xubuntu
[14:26] <EriC^^> kamild1996: dpkg -l | grep grub | nc termbin.com 9999
[14:27] <kamild1996> EriC^^, http://termbin.com/b6a9
[14:28] <EriC^^> kamild1996: apt-get install --reinstall grub-pc grub-common grub2-common grub-pc-bin
[14:29] <ctjctj> Pici, can you verify that output of echo $EDITOR $VISUAL for me?  Thanks. My shell reports nothing for either variable.
[14:29] <Pici> ctjctj: mine gives me /usr/bin/vim... but I'm using a heavily modified terminal here.
[14:30] <ioria> ctjctj, i don't think is set by default (printenv)
[14:30] <kamild1996> EriC^^, done
[14:30] <kamild1996> Also it seems to have found two Linux images for some reason
[14:30] <ctjctj> ioria, do we have any idea when that changed?  I know it use to but that could have been 8.04 for all my memory helps me.
[14:30] <LMGN> http://sx.thelmgn.com/2016/08/putty%20%283%29_2016-08-01_15-07-08.png WILL IT WORK?
[14:30] <EriC^^> kamild1996: did it say "found ..." ?
[14:31] <ioria> ctjctj, yeah
[14:31] <EriC^^> kamild1996: ok, try exit then reboot
[14:31] <EriC^^> kamild1996: did you reboot already?
[14:31] <kamild1996> Yes EriC^^ and it's back to grub rescue
[14:31] <dancingd3mon> EriC^^, is the man :D
[14:32] <k_dog345> hey guys.... hoping I can get some help with my sound issues. I've asked before, but all help has led to a dead end in the past. The issue is no sound can be heard on my system. Prior to this I had moved my harddrives onto a different computer. Everything else is working, except for sound. I've already tried booting from live CD, resulted in no sound being played back. I can give more info as needed. Thanks
[14:32] <atralheaven_> other partitions have longer UUIDs, is that normal?
[14:32] <EriC^^> kamild1996: ok, try echo $prefix again
[14:32] <kamild1996> Unknown command, EriC.
[14:33] <EriC^^> kamild1996: ok, when you boot the live usb, do you get a menu of some sort?
[14:33] <EriC^^> dancingd3mon you want to take over? :D
[14:33] <dancingd3mon> no no omg lol
[14:33] <dancingd3mon> you helped me before man
[14:33] <ishan> Hey guys, any great developer softwares
[14:33] <kamild1996> EriC^^, I'm using Easy2Boot to boot the image if that's what you mean
[14:34] <kamild1996> I've been using the same drive on several PCs/laptops, and this Dell is the first one to be causing issues like this :/
[14:34] <dancingd3mon> I had to format my system but I appreciate your help anyway :D
[14:35] <LMGN> HELLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO? WILL THIS WORK? http://sx.thelmgn.com/2016/08/putty%20%283%29_2016-08-01_15-07-08.png
[14:35] <Pici> LMGN: try it?
[14:35] <LMGN> Pici: I thought I had to replace spaces with something but I don't know
[14:36] <elijah> Hi, I turned on my Thinkpad W510 yesterday and got a "Cannot boot from any device... no valid operating system found". I have an Intel SSD as the OS drive. I ran the program boot-repair and here is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/21677622/
[14:36] <Pici> LMGN: also, no. you need escape the space is Shared Music.  Also is Shared Music an actual share, or a folder within the share public?
[14:36] <LMGN> it's a folder
[14:36] <k1l_> LMGN: escape spaces with \ in front
[14:36] <Pici> LMGN: Well, you can't mount folders, you can only mount shares.
[14:36] <LMGN> okay
[14:36] <LMGN> back to sudo nano
[14:37] <atralheaven_> Pici: is it normal that my partition UUID is much shorter than others that I see in /etc/fstab?
[14:37] <Pici> atralheaven_: I don't know, sorry.
[14:37] <elijah> Also, I tried to dd the drive to another larger drive so I could test repair on that but keep getting an error that it is out of space. source/problem drive is 120GB SSD, target clone drive is 1TB Seagate Hybrid SSD
[14:37] <LMGN> Pici: this? http://sx.thelmgn.com/2016/08/putty%20%283%29_2016-08-01_15-37-30.png
[14:37] <fritchie> can I determine what app is causing core dumps when I see messages like:
[14:37] <fritchie> Core dump to |/usr/share/apport/apport 23660 6 0 pipe failed
[14:37] <akik> atralheaven_: what command did you use to get the partition uuid?
[14:38] <EriC^^> kamild1996: try ahci in the bios
[14:38] <EriC^^> or settings related to it
[14:38] <atralheaven_> Pici: it seems it is, I found here: http://www.howtogeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/589x375xUUIDs.png.pagespeed.gp+jp+jw+pj+js+rj+rp+rw+ri+cp+md.ic.k2Z_icOp4j.png
[14:38] <Pici> LMGN: yes.
[14:38] <ctjctj> atralheaven_, UUIDs can be different sizes.
[14:38] <LMGN> thanks
[14:38] <atralheaven_> akik: blkid
[14:38] <kamild1996> EriC^^, AHCI seems to be enabled already
[14:39] <akik> atralheaven_: it's ok
[14:39] <ctjctj> atralheaven_, what is the device you are using for blkid?
[14:39] <EriC^^> kamild1996: try disabling it
[14:39] <atralheaven_> ctjctj: what do you mean? I just enter sudo blkid in terminal
[14:39] <kamild1996> EriC^^, will it affect my Windows installation? And should I choose "Disabled" or "ATA"?
[14:39] <EriC^^> try disabled for a sec
[14:41] <kamild1996> EriC^^, No bootable devices--strike F1 to retry boot...
[14:41] <ctjctj> atralheaven_, *nods*  Ok.  Not the way I normally do it but that will work.  I am looking to see if you got the UUID from something like /dev/sda instead of /dev/sda2  I.e. did you get the UUID of the partition or of the device.
[14:41] <EriC^^> try ATA
[14:41] <kamild1996> kk
[14:41] <ginitosj> te paso el rar con el conf/security
[14:42] <EriC^^> !pt | ginitosj
[14:42] <kamild1996> EriC^^, ...GRUB menu appeared
[14:42] <EriC^^> kamild1996: nice
[14:42] <kamild1996> Let's see if Windows boots up tho
[14:42] <atralheaven_> ctjctj: sure the device, which was sda4, now im reading about options, like auto etc
[14:43] <teward> running `do-release-update -s` will only 'test' the upgrade - it won't actually upgrade my system right?
[14:43] <LMGN> Pici: so this should in theory work? http://sx.thelmgn.com/2016/08/putty%20%283%29_2016-08-01_15-41-43.png
[14:43] <ctjctj> atralheaven_, thanks for reading up.
[14:43] <atralheaven_> ctjctj: I found this: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/38125/htg-explains-what-is-the-linux-fstab-and-how-does-it-work/
[14:43] <kamild1996> EriC^^, sadly Windows doesn't want to start anymore :/
[14:43] <atralheaven_> ctjctj: nice article on that
[14:43] <k1l_> teward: iirc the s is for "simulate". but  the manpage should tell :)
[14:43] <EriC^^> kamild1996: is it a fresh windows install?
[14:44] <kamild1996> EriC^^, it's quite an aged install with a lot of data.
[14:44] <EriC^^> oh
[14:45] <EriC^^> installing it with ATA enabled might get it to boot
[14:45] <Pici> LMGN: that looks good to me
[14:45] <atralheaven_> ctjctj: I just didn't understand "sync/async" option
[14:45] <EriC^^> maybe there's something that can let ubuntu work though with ahci enabled
[14:45] <kamild1996> EriC^^, Ubuntu does boot, but I'd like to get Windows working without having to reinstall it. Is there a way?
[14:45] <ctjctj> Use the defaults when at all possible.
[14:46] <LMGN> Can I lock a folder to the sidebar thing?
[14:47] <EriC^^> kamild1996: possible solution http://askubuntu.com/questions/136831/cant-boot-into-fresh-install-of-ubuntu-with-ahci-enabled
[14:47] <ginitosj> Ya o termino mocosoft... salesss
[14:48] <atralheaven_> ctjctj: "UUID="F648AF0C48AECAA7" /data   ntfs-3g auto,user,exec,rw  0 0" final line. I used space for dump, to be empty, is that the right way to do that?
[14:48] <LMGN> ginitosj: [14:48] <Exec> .
[14:48] <kamild1996> EriC^^, I'll try it out and let you know if something happens. For now, thank you for all your assistance :)
[14:49] <GMAzrael> any guides or lessons learned from migrating corporate Windows Users to Ubuntu Dekstop?
[14:49] <EriC^^> kamild1996: this might work too https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2051302&page=2&p=12213372#post12213372
[14:50] <EriC^^> kamild1996: ok, no problem :)
[14:50] <ctjctj> atralheaven_, this is Unix/Linux.  That means for every single thing we want to do there is at least 3 ways of doing it and none is "correct".  If what you have works then use it.  I would start with "defaults" as my options.  Test, if it works I would not mess with it.
[14:51] <ctjctj> when you use "defaults" for just about anything you are putting your trust in the 100s of hours that went into arguing what is the best set of options for that program.  Later, if you find a NEED to change an option, do so, but do one change at a time, test that change, verify it works, then move on.
[14:51] <erols> hey
[14:52] <erols> EriC^^:
[14:52] <erols> erm..im having trouble setting up ssh for no-ip
[14:53] <ctjctj> My story is of setting up a mailing list handler, I think it was called "mailman" for my ISP.  I had a few dozen users with about twice that many lists.  All of it working nicely.  I set up another for a new user (my ex wife actually) and for the next 2 weeks she was on the phone every day with technical support.  The issue?  She change about 75% of all settings in the program and some combination of those had caused issues.
[14:53] <ctjctj> So start with defaults, make sure it works, THEN move on.
[14:53] <khizar> my ubuntu 16.04 brightness control function not work how to fix it???
[14:54] <ioria> ctjctj, /usr/bin/editor -> /etc/alternatives/editor   seems the variable has been replaced by a link, if you type 'editor file' it should open nano, but when it happened idk
[14:55] <ctjctj> ioria, THANK YOU!  That makes so much more sense.
[14:55] <ctjctj> ioria, and from what I've noticed the first run of "editor" causes it to ask you which to use.
[14:56] <SuperMechaCow> .... why does lubuntu make their CD images too big to put on a cd?
[14:56] <ioria> ctjctj,  for gui, i think it's xdg involved (mimetypes and stuff like that)...   xdg-open text_file, opens with gedit
[14:56] <ctjctj> ioria, one of the cute things that happened with a noob the other day is when she started using nano for the first time was that she didn't know that ^ meant "ctrl"
[14:57] <ioria> ctjctj,  right
[14:57] <tonyt> SuperMechaCow im guessing because the devs probly think not many use cd's no more
[14:57] <ctjctj> ioria, I despise gui editors.  "typity, typity, Opps, lets move up a line, ctrl-p, ctlr-p" and I've got two print dialogs.
[14:57] <ioria> ctjctj,  ^_^
[14:58] <ctjctj> Or worse "ctrl-n" for next line a few times and I have twenty new windows.
 my ubuntu 16.04 brightness control function not work how to fix it??? plzzz help me
[14:59] <ctjctj> SuperMechaCow, because most modern machines come with DVDs.  And if not use a thumb drive and boot from USB.  Or just pick up a USB DVD for $30.
[14:59] <ctjctj> So much easier than having to swap CD's in the middle of an install.
[14:59] <kamild1996> Hey EriC^^, I'm trying out that wxHexEditor trick. It says to edit my MBR. How do I find/open it?
[14:59] <SuperMechaCow> ctjctj, but this is going on legacy hardware, which is why I chose lubuntu alternatative
[14:59] <ctjctj> SuperMechaCow, on the other hand there are a few "micro" and "mini" distros based on ubuntu that fit neatly on a CDROM
[15:00] <ctjctj> SuperMechaCow, if lubuntu doesn't fit anymore, I'll suggest bodhi which is ubuntu based as well.
[15:00] <ducasse> SuperMechaCow: this decision was made recently, since so few people don't have either dvd or usb, and people can use the mini.iso if necessary anyway.
[15:00] <ctjctj> SuperMechaCow, and what ducasse says.  I didn't know about the mini.iso(s)
[15:01] <SuperMechaCow> looking for the mini iso now
[15:02] <ducasse> SuperMechaCow: iirc, you need wired networking to use it, though.
[15:02] <ctjctj> SuperMechaCow, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD and yes, you will need internet to get the packages.
[15:02] <SuperMechaCow> ducasse, if the mini iso has suitable drivers for this NIC then it will be no problem
[15:02] <SuperMechaCow> I found the mini for lubuntu. I'm gonna give that a shot
[15:02] <ducasse> SuperMechaCow: same kernel drivers as other images.
[15:03] <Cooler> to create a bootable pen drive
[15:03] <Cooler> do i have to extract the archive that i downloaded?
[15:04] <Cooler> i am guessing it wouldn't be able to boot from a compressed archive
[15:05] <ctjctj> Cooler, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu
[15:08] <nik> i have a problem
[15:08] <atralheaven_> ctjctj: with a better formatting I understood there is nothing to be left blank. check that out: "http://hastebin.com/raw/kaxohorepi" clear and neat!
[15:10] <ctjctj> atralheaven_, that likely works.  Why are you not using "defaults" for /data?
[15:11] <atralheaven_> ctjctj: it does work now, I don't know what are defaults, so I used what I thought I need
[15:14] <ctjctj> atralheaven_, *laughs* I get it finally!  Look at the line that starts with "UUID=ca74... at the <options> column.
[15:15] <ctjctj> atralheaven_, the difference between "use the defaults" and use the keyword "defaults" for you options
[15:15] <atralheaven_> the "defaults" are defined somewhere, I don't know what are they for /data
[15:16] <snapsisy> hello
[15:16] <capum321> hello, some friends help me yesterday discovering why my linux won't boot: i have added a entry in fstab: "UUID=133A62F042D4E436 /media/user/label    ntfs-3g        auto,user,rw 0 0" - without quotes - I commented, thus system went back which I am currently in. how could troubleshoot to allow it to mount on boot?
[15:17] <reloafaa> hello
[15:17] <reloafaa> guys
[15:17] <ctjctj> atralheaven_, this is a language issue, not a ubuntu/fstab issue.  There is a keyword "auto" for example.  In fstab you can use the keyword "defaults" in place of "auto,user,exec,rw" and it will use the defaults.  man mount.ntfs-3g will tell you more about the options available.
[15:18] <reloafaa> my videos are not working, only youtube works , i have flash installer installed??
[15:18] <reloafaa> hello
[15:20] <Apteryx> Hi! Using an AMD R9 285, is Ubuntu 16.04 iso image supposed to boot?
[15:21] <Apteryx> My dad's computer is equipped with such a card and it seems to loose video signal (monitor goes to sleep) right after grub
[15:21] <atralheaven_> ctjctj: sure, thanks :)
[15:21] <ducasse> capum321: the option 'user' is at least invalid
[15:22] <Apteryx> I guess my question could be rephrased as: Is R9 285 now properly supported in-kernel using Ubuntu 16.04 (modesetting) ?
[15:22] <ducasse> capum321: no, wait, sorry :)
[15:23] <ctjctj> atralheaven_, does that make more sense now?
[15:23] <capum321> is or not ?
[15:23] <atralheaven_> ctjctj: yes, I understand that
[15:24] <ducasse> capum321: no, it should work.
[15:25] <ppf> i'm using awesomewm. any suggestions on how to automatically lock the screen (preferably through xscreensaver) when the system enters standby?
[15:26] <reloafaa> ducasse: i am unable to pay videos from most site except youtube. metacafe, is not working nothing is working?? i have flash installed tooo!!
[15:26] <ducasse> capum321: try 'sudo mount -t ntfs-3g -o auto,user,rw UUID=133A62F042D4E436 /media/user/label' from a terminal
[15:26] <ducasse> rolodata_: don't ask me, ask the channel.
[15:27] <reloafaa> i am unable to pay videos from most site except youtube. metacafe, is not working nothing is working?? i have flash installed tooo!!
[15:28] <ducasse> capum321: you don't need auto or user on that line, actually
[15:28] <ctjctj> reloafaa, your question isn't clear enough to allow people to answer.  Are you attempting to view a video in your browser?  Where from?  Is it a movie you've downloaded as an AVI, mpg, mp4, mkv?
[15:30] <ButchMonkey> Hey, can anyone help with a svn DAV serve issue please?
[15:30] <SchrodingersScat> !ask | ButchMonkey
[15:30] <reloafaa> xvideos.com, redtube.com ctjctj
[15:30] <ducasse> capum321: i'm guessing you will get a message that /media/user/label does not exist...
[15:31] <kamild1996> EriC^^, lol all that messing around, and it turns out all I had to do is simply update my BIOS... Now I feel bad for not taking care of it beforehand, so I'd even like to say "sorry" :P
[15:31] <ctjctj> reloafaa, ok.  That gets us closer.  "I can't watch videos in my browser from xvideos.com and redtube.com"  What is the failure you see?  What are the error messages you see?  Are you using firefox, chrome or some other browser?
[15:32] <ButchMonkey> Getting - "Could not open the requested SVN filesystem" when connecting to the served svn, could this be a mis match in version between dav module and the svn?
[15:32] <reloafaa> firefox ctjctj
[15:32] <EriC^^> kamild1996: hehe, bios upgrades kind of scare me, maybe cause i never done one before
[15:32] <reloafaa> wait a sec ctjctj
[15:32] <EriC^^> kamild1996: anyways great that it's working
[15:33] <EriC^^> and thanks for letting me know how you fixed it too
[15:33] <taieb> I'm using ubuntu 16.04 and I need xdebug to be working. Did anyone know how to make this work and are they any pointers to help me with this?
[15:34] <kamild1996> No problem EriC, I was about to start messing with that MBR partition but when I was restarting the device and saw the BIOS revision, I wondered - is there a newer version? And so it was, updated from A07 to A16 >.<
[15:34] <kamild1996> It was a Dell Latitude E5410 btw
[15:35] <EriC^^> aha cool
[15:35] <reloafaa> https://ptpb.pw/X5vU
[15:36] <EriC^^> that's a pretty good leap in updates :D
[15:36] <kamild1996> Yeah like 3-4 years. Never bothered to check since everything seemed to work well, until now.
[15:37] <Apteryx> Why would a Ubuntu 16.04 live usb key drops to a black terminal with a flashing cursor?
[15:38] <ducasse> !nomodeset | Apteryx
[15:38] <Apachez> Apteryx: bad usb installation?
[15:38] <ducasse> !modeset | Apteryx
[15:38] <ctjctj> reloafaa, rude.
[15:38] <reloafaa> https://ptpb.pw/7684
[15:38]  * ctjctj done.
[15:38] <reloafaa> what did i do
[15:38] <ducasse> reloafaa: are you old enough to view that anyway?
[15:39] <reloafaa> yes i am
[15:39] <Apteryx> Apachez: I used unetbootin, and tested the key successfully on a 2nd computer (it has a nvidia rather than amd gpu).
[15:39] <Apteryx> ducasse: That might be it, although I thought Ubuntu 16.04 supported natively the R9 285 AMd card using the new amdgpu driver.
[15:40] <reloafaa> ctjctj: i didnt mean to sexually offend you. i dont think u are a woman. so take it like a real man
[15:40] <reloafaa> ducasse: you too
[15:40] <Apteryx> ducasse: Would the default grub shipped with the live USB not be configured to handle all the use cases (such as newer AMD cards) ?
[15:41] <ducasse> reloafaa: *plonk*
[15:42] <lordcirth> Apteryx, "all the use cases" would scroll off the screen.  And be rather confusing to users.
[15:42]  * ctjctj looks at reloafaa "I'm done with you.  I am working, this is my extra cycles helping people.  I am not in the position to have a pornographic page pop up when I'm looking for an error message"  For all you know my son is sitting right beside me.  So you have made it to the "rude beyond help" class.  I'm done with you."
[15:43] <Apteryx> lordcirth: True. But throwing them off to a black screen with a flashing pointer isn't exactly newb friendly either :P
[15:43] <lordcirth> Apteryx, no it's not.
[15:43] <lordcirth> Perhaps a 'nomodeset' entry should be added with a description "for new AMD GPUs"
[15:44] <EriC^^> lol
[15:44] <Apteryx> I think there isn't anything we can even try at this point, we have to cycle power and try again.
[15:45] <Apteryx> A recover of some sorts with help available detailing boot parameters would be nice.
[15:47] <ctjctj> lordcirth, unfortunately nomodeset messes things up further down the pipe.  Not sure if that is worse or better.
[15:49] <reloafaa> ctjctj: is your wife beautifuL or ugly?
[15:49] <lordcirth> ctjctj, it's useful to make sure that's the problem, and as a temporary fix, though, right?
[15:49] <ducasse> reloafaa: stop. now.
[15:50] <neomex> how do i access dvd drive on ubuntu?
[15:50] <neomex> cant find it anywhere
[15:50] <neomex> (i run in on vm)
[15:50] <EriC^^> neomex: /dev/sr0
[15:50] <EriC^^> neomex: try lsblk
[15:50] <EriC^^> ah you might need to install the guest-additions-iso to enable that
[15:50] <ctjctj> Yes, so having them get to grub to make that change might be a good option.  Unfortunately we've had at least one user that couldn't get to the grub menu with default time outs.  holding shift just didn't work for her.
[15:51] <reloafaa> ctjctj: i found the bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pitivi/+bug/514887 i'm too done with you ctjctj
[15:52] <neomex> EriC^^, theres no visual way to do it, have to use terminal? I want to burn iso on a dvd
[15:53] <reloafaa> neomex: just use brasero
[15:53] <reloafaa> or xfburn they are all GUI
[15:53] <Welsh1lad> Afternoon folks
[15:53] <debug0x1> Afternoon.
[15:53] <debug0x1> morning, and evening to some.
[15:54] <nik987> hi
[15:54] <Welsh1lad> what the Goss in here
[15:54] <reloafaa> neomex: its easy dude
[15:54] <Welsh1lad> anyone useing KVM virtulisation with ubuntu server
[15:54] <reloafaa> no cli needed
[15:54] <lordcirth> !ask | Welsh1lad
[15:55] <capum321> ducasse here is output from the command you said above http://dpaste.com/2NJ1TSY
[15:55] <ctjctj> Welsh1lad, yes.  12.04LTS and 14.04LTS
[15:55] <reloafaa> !patience
[15:55] <reloafaa> !help
[15:55] <lordcirth> Welsh1lad, what is your actual question?
[15:55] <reloafaa> !ask
[15:55] <reloafaa> !ubottu
[15:56] <lordcirth> reloafaa, please don't spam
[15:56] <lordcirth> You can /query the bot if you want to play with it
 how are setting up snapshots ? just backing up your storage pool or actualy using the snapshot command
[15:56] <Welsh1lad> as regards to backing the VMa
[15:56] <Welsh1lad> Vms
[15:57] <EriC^^> neomex: see https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=60037
[15:58] <ducasse> capum321: yes, that explains what you need to do - boot windows, and shut it down cleanly. turn off fast boot and other such options.
[15:58] <ctjctj> Welsh1lad, handle backups in multiple different ways.  For our production servers Amanda to AWS S3 with daily, weekly and monthly backups covering 24 months +.  For our dev boxes, running locally no backups other than scripts to dump all databases every night.
[15:58] <acethebass> can some one help me
[15:59] <k1l_> acethebass: depends on what the issue is
[16:01] <neomex> thanks EriC^^  &  reloafaa
[16:02] <acethebass> i try to install apache2 and my rig says to insert the install disc for linux ubuntu however my cdrom is no longer existant i have a external drive its not just going to that it want the original cdrom how can i fix this
[16:02] <EriC^^> neomex: no problem
[16:02] <k1l_> acethebass: please show the output of "cat /etc/apt/sources.list | nc termbin.com 9999"
[16:03] <acethebass> errm i dount understand im new to linux
[16:03] <EriC^^> acethebass: it's a terminal command
[16:04] <acethebass> ok
[16:04] <acethebass> one moment
[16:04] <k1l_> acethebass: i think i know the reason for that issue just want to confim it
[16:05] <Hey> helo
[16:05] <acethebass> is it just "cat/etc/apt/sources.list"
[16:07] <k1l_> acethebass: copy and paste it: "cat /etc/apt/sources.list | nc termbin.com 9999"
[16:07] <k1l_> without the "
[16:07] <k1l_> it will give you a url. please copy that url back to here
[16:08] <johnius_> hi everyone! I know Ubuntu is not really a gaming platform because of DirectX and all, but at least Arma 3/CS:GO run on linux which is what I play most of the time. But steam is really fickle and there are no drivers for AMD? This has become a confusing mess and would rather not revert to windows.
[16:09] <tonyt> johnius_ you having a problem with your amd video card driver?
[16:10] <johnius_> yes, i got steam to start once, but was unsuccesful in starting a game because of driver issues
[16:10] <acethebass> i got http://termbin.com/6jbu
[16:10] <tonyt> johnius_ i would suggest reinstalling your vid card driver
[16:12] <johnius_> tonyt: good idea, but where do i get it? the AMD site has a bunch of downloads which are for different versions of ubuntu
[16:12] <k1l_> acethebass: that is a ubuntu 5.10?
[16:13] <acethebass> correct
[16:13] <johnius_> tonyt: is there nothing i can apt-get? at least that i understand
[16:13] <tonyt> johnius_ start your terminal and do uname -a . that will list what version of ubuntu you are on
[16:13] <tonyt> 14.4, 1604 etc
[16:13] <k1l_> acethebass: that is dead since 2007. please make a install of a new ubuntu version, at least 12.04 or better 16.04
[16:13] <tonyt> err 14.04, 16.04 etc
[16:14] <acethebass> how
[16:14] <johnius_> tonyt: 4.4.0-31-generic #50-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jul 13 00:07:12 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[16:14] <k1l_> acethebass: there is no sense in trying to get that working. because it will not work at all. get a 16.04 iso from ubuntu.com and install that.
[16:14] <ctjctj> acethebass, If I remember correctly the install procedure handles some upgrades automatically.
[16:15] <ctjctj> acethebass, unlike windows you don't normally lose data on an upgrade but if you have any data on that machine, save it/back it up.
[16:15] <johnius_> tonyt: 16.04.1 LTS
[16:15] <acethebass> will any of this reqire a non usb drive
[16:16] <k1l_> acethebass: you can use a usb-pendrive or a dvd if you want
[16:16] <ctjctj> acethebass, and with a machine that hold you might need a lighter weight ubnuntu.  lubuntu and bodhi are the two I've used.
[16:16] <acethebass> well my rig is so old the only start up devices are cdrom hdd and network no usb
[16:17] <acethebass> i no longer have the multi bay disc drive
[16:17] <tonyt> johnius_ then you should be able to find the correct driver on amd's website then
[16:19] <johnius_> tonyt: i already did that, but didn't work. Had to hand install it which was super sketchy
[16:20] <johnius_> tonyt: ii  amdgpu-pro     16.30.3-3068 amd64        This package install all amdgpu-p
[16:20] <Mathisen> johnius_,  save your self a headache and dualboot for gaming..
[16:22] <johnius_> Mathisen: iḿ getting that feeling yes, but how does something like SteamOS manage it?
[16:22] <NSABear> Who here is a rsync guru? I need to sync the photos from my phone to my local backups and I want to dump them into per month folders. My phone stores them as a bucnh of images.
[16:23] <Mathisen> johnius_, my guess is that fglrx still works there..
[16:24] <LMGN> Is there anyway to lock a shortcut to a folder in the sidebar thing?
[16:24] <acethebass> well thanks any ways it appears i can no longer install new matereal on this rig to make it modern
[16:25] <johnius_> pretty disheartening to see that such simple things are still such a hassle on linux
[16:25] <NSABear> johnius_, acethebass ?
[16:26] <acethebass> if anyone has the whole multi bay device sys with cdrom  for the compaq ipaq email ianb2001@icloud.com
[16:26] <acethebass> i will stay in here but will be afk
[16:26] <NSABear> johnius_, what's wrong
[16:27] <capum321> ducasse: fast boot?
[16:28] <johnius_> NSABear: trying to install AMD drivers on Ubuntu 16.04
[16:28] <ducasse> capum321: i think that's what it's called, yes. it basically suspends windows to disk instead of shutting down properly.
[16:29] <NSABear> johnius_, the opensoruce onces aren't working?
[16:29] <neomex> any idea why ubuntu doesnt detect my dvd drive?
[16:29] <capum321> i will try thanks
[16:29] <neomex> when booting it said read error or something like that
[16:29] <ctjctj> acethebass, look into one of the distros designed for old equipment.  bodhi might do it for you.  It lives on a cdrom.
[16:30] <johnius_> NSABear: they're on the AMD site? Because their install manual is 44 pages which is too much for a linux newb like me
[16:30] <NSABear> johnius_, what GPU?
[16:31] <ducasse> capum321: you might need to switch it off in the bios as well, i'm a little unclear on how it works as i don't use windows.
[16:32] <capum321> ducasse should I run chkdsk ?
[16:32] <johnius_> NSABear: VGA compatible controller		: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Pitcairn PRO [Radeon HD 7850 / R7 265 / R9 270 1024SP] (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
[16:33] <ducasse> capum321: i don't think it should be necessary if the system is properly shut down, but it can't hurt.
[16:33] <NSABear> johnius_, iirc sudo apt-get install amdgpu and reboot
[16:34] <capum321> ducasse: all right
[16:34] <johnius_> NSABear: unable to locate package
[16:35] <NSABear> johnius_, what version of ubuntu?
[16:35] <johnius_> 16.04.01 LTS
[16:36] <NSABear> apt-get update then try the command again
[16:36] <NSABear> I'm not under ubuntu right now so I can't really try it myself... (On 7)
[16:37] <G_Hey> hello
[16:37] <G_Hey> ?
[16:38] <ctjctj> johnius_, I think NSABear means xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu
[16:38] <NSABear> ctjctj, I just did amdgpu back when I ran ubutnu
[16:39] <NSABear> ctjctj, I also had universe enabled
[16:39] <ctjctj> NSABear, apt-cache search amdgpu returns xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu
[16:39] <NSABear> ctjctj, again I just did apt-get install amdgpu
[16:40] <johnius_> ctjctj: that one worked, but now I get "OpenGL GLX context is not using direct rendering, which may cause performance problems." when starting up steam
[16:40] <ctjctj> *nods* I believe you.  You said you didn't have a ubuntu running so I did an apt-cache to try and help so "I believe"
[16:40] <Egyptian> hi - i installed smartd and rebooted the box .. smartd is up and working. however, i do _not_ want to reboot servers. is there any way around this and have smartd started without a reboot?
[16:43] <NSABear> ctjctj, I gave up on Linux a while ago for the desktop
[16:43] <NSABear> AMD GPU drivers are locked to 60fps
[16:43] <MonkeyDust> Egyptian  try    systemctl enable smartd.service
[16:43] <ctjctj> Egyptian, in general, with Ubuntu installing a server will automatically enable it and configure it and set it for restart and boot.
[16:44] <Dcc> Hi
[16:44] <ctjctj> NSABear, I understand.  I moved from FreeBSD to Linux for that same sort of reason.  But my particular system handles what I need it to handle very well.  (youtube, totem, handbreak and lots and lots of emacs)
[16:45] <NSABear> ctjctj, I tried FreeBSD on my server. Regreted it.
[16:45] <Guest74720> someone can help o someone know the namo of a freenode chat about ubuntu touch?
[16:45] <Egyptian> MonkeyDust: i am on trusty - command not found
[16:45] <SchrodingersScat> !touch | Guest74720
[16:45] <ctjctj> NSABear, at the time, FreeBSD was a much more stable server environment and I had loads of BSD experience.  So it was the right choice for me.  But as a desktop I was always fighting it.
[16:46] <Guest74720> thx so much people
[16:46] <Egyptian> ctjctj: yes .. but the server was installed a while back .. i just want to install and enable smartd without a reboot
[16:46] <ctjctj> Plus slackware '96 messed with me in hugely nasty ways one time to many.
[16:46] <computer> people i am trying to delete a directory but there is an error rm: cannot remove '.nfs0000000000b6cc8d005997af': Device or resource busy      what can i do to forcefully delete it?
[16:46] <NSABear> ctjctj, I never understood slackware. what's its usecase?
[16:46] <ctjctj> It existed in 1996?
[16:46] <NSABear> I mean modern usecase
[16:47] <NSABear> what does it provide?
[16:47] <Egyptian> slackware is the oldest surviving distro
[16:47] <Egyptian> it teaches you things like gentoo or lfs
[16:47] <DArqueBishop> I used to use Slackware as my primary server OS until about a year or so ago.
[16:47] <NSABear> I'd rather use Gentoo then
[16:48] <ctjctj> NSABear, notice the '96 in when I used it.  I'm not even sure there was a Debian at that time.
[16:48] <Egyptian> i remember formatting and copying 100 floppy disks for slack 2.0 :/
[16:48] <ctjctj> Nope, it says here that Debian 0.01-0.90 was 1993
[16:51] <isene> After a wakeup from suspend, I often find two font issues (one of them or both): 1) My three conkys running on my desktop has got their fonts wiped out (no letters at all), 2) My gtk-apps have most of the letters missing. To fix the conky problem, I simply restart the conkys. To fix the gtk font issue, I have to go into gnome-tweek-tool and change the fonts back and forth until they are fine again.
[16:51] <xentity1x> Hey so I  seem to have messed up my graphics card drivers and now I cant even see a tty display. Can anyone help me troubleshoot? I just need to get some files off the computer.
[16:51] <isene> Known issue? How to fix?
[16:54] <ctjctj> xentity1x, if all you want to do is rescue some files boot a liveCD then copy the files to a USB or use the network to move them.
[16:55] <Cooler> i am trying to install ubuntu but the screen goes to all black and stays that way
[16:55] <MonkeyDust> !nomodeset | Cooler
[16:55] <Cooler> well i used rufus to create a bootable pen drive
[16:56] <Cooler> and it shows the screen for selecting to install ubuntu
[16:56] <thegreenhundred> Cooler, what system are you using?
[16:56] <Cooler> but then it goes into a black screen
[16:57] <Cooler> i am trying to install on a acer laptop
[16:57] <Cooler> that came with windows 10 preinstalled
[16:57] <thegreenhundred> Cooler, can you find the exact model and spec's on Acers site and share a link?
[16:57] <computer> people i am trying to delete a directory but there is an error rm: cannot remove '.nfs0000000000b6cc8d005997af': Device or resource busy      what can i do to forcefully delete it?
[16:57] <Cooler> core i3 64 bit, 4gb ram, 1tb hdd
[16:58] <xentity1x> ctjcj, how can i use the network to move them
[16:58] <MonkeyDust> Cooler  or try some other program to create the bootable usb stick
[16:58] <xentity1x> ctjcj, can i ssh in? I don't know the ip address of the computer, but it should be on wifi.
[16:59] <MonkeyDust> xentity1x  you need the ip address to ssh
[16:59] <xentity1x> monkeydust, oh wait i found ip address. I think the machine has port 22 closed though. Am I out of luck?
[17:00] <Cooler> MonkeyDust, which other program
[17:01] <MonkeyDust> Cooler  are you in windows or in ubuntu?
[17:01] <Cooler> http://www.acer.com/ac/en/IN/content/model/NX.MVMSI.035
[17:01] <Cooler> MonkeyDust, i haven't installed ubuntu yet
[17:01] <Cooler> thats the problem
[17:01] <MonkeyDust> Cooler  for windows, there's yumi or so
[17:02] <ctjctj> xentity1x, if you don't have openssh-server installed unlikely.  BUT you might be able to boot and then use "ctrl-alt-F1" to get a terminal window.  From there log in and install, grab your IP address with ip -4 addr show
[17:03] <toxik> Cooler, did you check the hash of the image you flashed w/ rufus?
[17:03] <xentity1x> ctjctj, yeah that's blank too.
[17:03] <Cooler> toxik, yeah
[17:03] <ctjctj> xentity1x, Ok.  does it boot?
[17:03] <Cooler> i mean it also shows the intial boot screen
[17:04] <Cooler> where you can select "try ubuntu without installing" "install ubuntu" "install ubuntu(oem)"
[17:04] <xentity1x> ctjctj, yes
[17:04] <mcfdez> Hello. Exists any option to share home directory throught online accounts of gnome?
[17:05] <toxik> Cooler, when does the black screen show up?
[17:07] <ctjctj> Ok.  IF it boots see if you can catch the grub menu, add "single" to the kernel options.  Boot single users.  service networking start.  Then use scp to copy your files off.
[17:08] <ctjctj> xentity1x, I'm a CLI person so that is "easy" for me, I don't know for you.  But the idea is the same get it up enough to move the files somewhere via ssh, or find the IP address and log in via ssh.  But that *requires* you have the sshd server running.
[17:08] <Cooler> toxik, after you select one of the options i mentioned
[17:09] <Cooler> all of them show that black screen, i tried leaving it for a hour and nothing happened
[17:09] <akik> Cooler: press e in that boot menu and add nomodeset into the line which starts with linux
[17:10] <xentity1x> ctjctj, im at the grub menu. How do I add single to the kernel options?
[17:10] <ctjctj> press e in that boot menu and add nomodeset into the line which starts with linux
[17:10] <ctjctj> (thanks akik)
[17:11] <ctjctj> xentity1x, except instead of nomodeset use single
[17:15] <xentity1x> ctjctj, okay cool. I see the line that starts with linux. Could you tell me exactly what to type, so I don't getit wrong?
[17:18] <Cooler> MonkeyDust, what exactly do i have to do?
[17:18] <Cooler> i pressed e in the boot screen
[17:18] <Cooler> and a setparams screen showed up
[17:20] <Cooler> do i have to type nomodeset?
[17:20] <xentity1x> ctjctj, oh wait I figured it out.
[17:20] <ctjctj> xentity1x, thank goodness.  I don't have a grub menu up.
[17:20] <xentity1x> ctjctj, but i dont seem to have internet in this terminal.
[17:20] <ctjctj> xentity1x, "service networking start"
[17:22] <Cooler> where do you have to type nomodeset
[17:22] <Cooler> ?
[17:22] <xentity1x> ctjctj, it says error getting authority
[17:23] <ctjctj> Xentity what does "ip -4 addr" show you?  Does it show an address?
[17:24] <xentity1x> ctjctj, it shows 1: lo: and some other stuff
[17:24] <Cooler> somebody help
[17:24] <joelio> !grub
[17:24] <joelio> Cooler: ^^^
[17:24] <xentity1x> ctjctj, inet 127.0.0.1/8
[17:24] <ctjctj> xentity1x, is this wireless?
[17:24] <xentity1x> ctjctj, no sorry it's ethernet.
[17:25] <joelio> Cooler: it goes in /etc/default/grub in the grub kernel option line.. then you run update-grub to set it
[17:25] <thegreenhundred> ctjctj, if you have the application installed using the command " nmtui " might help give you an easy terminal interface for enabbling the eth0
[17:25] <__hell__> hey!
[17:25] <Cooler> joelio, so i have to set open command line and type update-grub?
[17:26] <joelio> Cooler: if you're having trouble at boot, then you can add the option at boot time (escape the normal boot timer and add the line, then F10 to boot)
[17:26] <ctjctj> xentity1x, try "ifup eth0".  We just have to bring the networking up.
[17:26] <joelio> Cooler: if you want to permanently set it, it's in /etc/default/grub.. update-grub is run after to make the change effective
[17:26] <xentity1x> ctjctj, it says ignoring unkown interface eth0
[17:27] <joelio> otherwise if it's needed (say because graphics aren't working) then you can add at boot time by editing the menu
[17:27] <ctjctj> xentity1x, one moment.
[17:29] <ctjctj> xentity1x, try "service network-manager start" and then check for your IPs again.
[17:30] <Cooler> setparams 'Install Ubuntu'
[17:30] <Cooler>  
[17:31] <Cooler>     set gfxpayload=keep
[17:31] <thegreenhundred> ctjctj, xentity1x, to identify what the ethernet conection name is, we can try the command " ip a " to list all active & inactive connections
[17:32] <Cooler>     linux    /casper/vmlinuz.efi file=/cdrom/pressed/ubuntu.seed boot=casper only-ubiquity nomodeset quiet splash ---
[17:32] <Cooler>     initrd    /casper/initrd.lz
[17:32] <xentity1x> ctjct, okay so it seems like the network-manager started. When I run ip a it gives me two entries: lo and and enp4s0.
[17:32] <Cooler> joelio, can you look at those lines?
[17:33] <Cooler> is that where you have to type nomodeset?
[17:33] <ctjctj> thegreenhundred, he's in single user mode, we have to bring up the interface first.
[17:33] <joelio> yea, although afair it was on the initrd line - I assume you're booting the livecd
[17:34] <joelio> in which case that looks correct
[17:34] <Cooler> no this is a pen drive
[17:34] <Cooler> made with rufus
[17:34] <joelio> a live image though, you don't use caspr on generic installs
[17:34] <Cooler> whats a live image?
[17:35] <toxik> Have you tried getting a new image and flashing it?
[17:35] <R4ceman> I'm trying to install apache2 + mySQL 5.7 + php7 but i'm getting error. I Did everything that says in this tutorial https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-linux-apache-mysql-php-lamp-stack-on-ubuntu-16-04
[17:35] <__hell__> in live image we boot OS from device without any installation
[17:35] <toxik> R4ceman, what errors are you getting?
[17:35] <joelio> Cooler: basically it's a linux installation that uses an overlay filesystem - unlike a 'proper' filesystem
[17:36] <Cooler> no i selected the option install ubuntue as you can see on the first line
[17:36] <joelio> and yea, what's the issue your trying to fix?
[17:36] <akik> Cooler: so did you try to boot with the nomodeset option?
[17:36] <Cooler> well pressing f10 to boot doesn't change anything
[17:36] <Cooler> i still get the black screen
[17:37] <joelio> take off quiet and splash
[17:37] <joelio> you'll see more verbose info
[17:37] <Cooler> it also says press f2 for a command line
[17:37] <Cooler> do i have to press f2 and save changes?
[17:37] <Cooler> before booting
[17:37] <joelio> it's F10 or Crtl+x afair, I'd need to check it's muscle memory :)
[17:37] <joelio> it does say though
[17:38] <Cooler> yes boot is f10
[17:38] <Cooler> do i have to press f2 and save changes?
[17:38] <akik> Cooler: no need to save
[17:38] <joelio> Cooler: no
[17:38] <R4ceman> Erro: mysql said: mysql: [Warning] mysql: Empty value for 'port' specified.          │ Will throw an error in future versions ERROR 1819 (HY000) at line 1:           │ Your password does not satisfy the current policy requirements
[17:38] <Cooler> so i need to remove quiet and splash?
[17:39] <Cooler>     linux    /casper/vmlinuz.efi file=/cdrom/pressed/ubuntu.seed boot=casper only-ubiquity nomodeset ---
[17:39] <joelio> it'll show you more verbose info
[17:39] <Cooler> ?
[17:39] <joelio> yea, try that, but a black screen could be down to many things
[17:39] <ctjctj> Cooler I remove quiet and splash on my machines but I'm a lover of text.
[17:39] <Cooler> still black screen
[17:40] <Zack263> question: if it says "Make sure NO partitions are mounted from the source hard drive." What does this mean?
[17:40] <joelio> sounds strange then, that will always output kernel logging - if it's indeed even booting
[17:40] <R4ceman> When i try to configure phpmyadmin
[17:40] <R4ceman> mysql said: mysql: [Warning] mysql: Empty value for 'port' specified.          │ Will throw an error in future versions ERROR 1819 (HY000) at line 1:           │ Your password does not satisfy the current policy requirements
[17:41] <bekks> Use a better password.
[17:41] <R4ceman> please help me, i'm using lubuntu 16.04
[17:41] <joelio> R4ceman: it's down to mysql policy, there's a hardeneing tool that can be used - you need to adhere to whatever policy was set in that
[17:41] <joelio> it's down to the admin to configure, so you need to see what was set
[17:42] <R4ceman> what do you mean a better password???!
[17:42] <joelio> one that fits with the password policy
[17:43] <R4ceman> i tried with 18 char, and i still got the same error. i will try again
[17:43] <joelio> presumably you've not got enough entropy in the form or random characters, length, case or alphanumerics etc
[17:43] <R4ceman> with number and letters
[17:43] <joelio> just check with the admin if you can, save yourself some effort
[17:43] <ioria> Cooler, did you , by any chance, add an hyphen at the end ? 3 ---  , i  mean
[17:44] <R4ceman> I'm admin
[17:44] <joelio> lol
[17:44] <R4ceman> I'm a begginer php programmer
[17:44] <R4ceman> Last version of ubuntu was very easy to install
[17:45] <Cooler> ioria, those 3 --- were there alreasy
[17:45] <Cooler> already*
[17:45] <ioria> Cooler,  ok, i just remember only two
[17:45] <joelio> R4ceman: did you run any mysql hardening after the installation?
[17:45] <joelio> afaik the default won't set any default policy - unless that's changed
[17:46] <guzzlefry> Are Xbox One controllers supported in 16.04?
[17:46] <R4ceman> How do i do hardening? What is it?
[17:47] <Zack263> any one an expert on the DD command?  I want to learn to make an image gzipped and then restore the image gzipped of my linux system?
[17:47] <joelio> R4ceman: mysql_secure_installation is the tool used, it asks questions about what strngth of password
[17:48] <joelio> althugh I'm pretty sure it doesn't run anything by default
[17:48] <joelio> there's more to hardening that just p/w of course :)
[17:49] <tgm4883> The documentation for mysql 5.7 states the default password policy is minimum 8 characters
[17:49] <tgm4883> so I'd say that was changed
[17:50] <joelio> could well be!
[17:50] <lkh> Hi there, I have a Problem with my wifi connection, on a freshly installed 16.04.1. NetworkManager disconnects occasionaly with "reason -4". Where can I lool up what that might be?
[17:50] <tgm4883> s/that/R4ceman's system/
[17:50] <tgm4883> joelio: sorry, just backing you up here :)
[17:50] <joelio> more than welcome dude!
[17:50] <joelio> good to know subtle changes like that
[17:51] <joelio> tgm4883: funny though, seem to recall a certian software that only ever accepted up to 8 chars as a password :)
[17:58] <phreekbird> .o/ hey yall ... following the guide http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/packaging-new-software.html to attempt to build my first .deb package ... im on step 6.3 and its failing  "abort-due-to-no-makefile" Error 1...
[17:58] <phreekbird> looks like someone else had this same issue https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2186073
[17:58] <phreekbird> says solved, but dosnt explain how
[17:58] <phreekbird> so ... what am i doing wrong here?
[17:58] <toxik> You have to build a makefile
[18:00] <phreekbird> ok ... this guide doesn't explain how to do that, so ... is there a preferred method/guide I should use?
[18:01] <Cooler> somebody help
[18:01] <neomex> why is my ubu saving everything in root?
[18:01] <toxik> sudo apt-get install build-essential, if you haven't already
[18:01] <neomex> just got message theres 60mb left
[18:01] <Cooler> can't get past the black screen
[18:02] <phreekbird> toxik, done
[18:02] <neomex> i dont even know how to move all the stuff ive installed
[18:02] <guzzlefry> What's the proper way to add a service to startup in 16.04? Searches turn up `update-rc.d` but I vaguely remember a way using `systemctl`.
[18:02] <xangua> neomex: saving everything in root as?
[18:03] <tgm4883> neomex: sounds like you don't have a separate home partition
[18:03] <tgm4883> or logs possibly
[18:04] <toxik> phreekbird, what part are you having problems with?
[18:04] <phreekbird> step 6.3
[18:04] <phreekbird> I am in the hello/debian folder, I run the command
[18:04] <neomex> tgm4883, i did home partition when installing it
[18:05] <neomex> thats why im surprised
[18:05] <akik> Cooler: i don't know if this still works but add both "nomodeset xforcevesa" into the linux line in the boot menu
[18:05] <tgm4883> neomex: what's the output of 'df -h'
[18:05] <phreekbird> toxik, http://pastebin.com/6hggaTPe
[18:06] <Amm0n> guzzlefry, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemdForUpstartUsers
[18:06] <joelio> Cooler: that line you pasted has a preseed option in it, are you sure that's what you want - is the purpoe of this to install Ubuntu on the target machine?
[18:07] <joelio> otherwise if it's a 3rd party tool, you might be best speaking to those that developed it?
[18:07] <joelio> if you're making a USB stick for install, try unetbootin
[18:07] <neomex> tgm4883, http://pastebin.com/aviC8i0T
[18:08] <neomex> no wonder that it started slowing down so much recently
[18:08] <toxik> phreekbird, try repeating step 6.1
[18:08] <tgm4883> neomex: is this a server or desktop?
[18:08] <neomex> desktop
[18:08] <tgm4883> neomex: your / partition is pretty small
[18:09] <neomex> i had little space to assign so i did minimum + few megs
[18:09] <neomex> was hoping itll still run
[18:09] <tgm4883> neomex: what's the output of 'sudo du /var/log | sort -n -r | head'
[18:11] <neomex> tgm4883, http://pastebin.com/5UW6u8kN
[18:11] <tgm4883> neomex: how old is this install? That's actually fairly clean
[18:11] <neomex> 2 days old
[18:11] <tgm4883> neomex: ah that makes sense
[18:12] <tgm4883> so then you'll probably need to either grow your / partition or uninstall some stuff
[18:12] <neomex> why isnt it installing to /home though?
[18:12] <tgm4883> neomex: installing apps doesn't install to /home
[18:12] <neomex> didnt know about that
[18:13] <moparisthebest> does anyone know of a windows program that will send windows tray notifications to the linux desktop?
[18:13] <neomex> can i merge my /home into / without formatting or data loss? tgm4883
[18:14] <tgm4883> neomex: you'd have to backup your /home directory somewhere else (because you don't have the working space), delete that home partition, grow the / partition, then restore your backup
[18:14] <FloxerDoom> hey any help get X to work feisty updated to hardy apt mess libpaper1
[18:15]  * dax blink
[18:15] <dax> hardy hasn't been supported since 2013
[18:16] <neomex> tgm4883, is there something like add/remove programs from windows?
[18:16] <neomex> i have no clue what took all the space honestly
[18:16] <FloxerDoom> noone then Dax ?
[18:17] <FloxerDoom> :p
[18:17] <FloxerDoom> but its a secure network ... smartguard exception auth
[18:17] <FloxerDoom> not all apps get acces
[18:17] <FloxerDoom> unless i have X and the systembrowser has acces
[18:18] <FloxerDoom> but links works and links2 is broken libpaper1 issue
[18:18] <FloxerDoom> all issue libpaper1 issue
[18:19] <xentity1x> Hi, so I have an error where the login screen is really large, and when I try to login it just sends me back to the login screen. Anyone know how to fix?
[18:21] <te_lanus1> Any idea why in Ubuntu Mate 16.04 the sound tray icon's slider won't change the sound
[18:31] <EriC^^> xentity1x: does the guest account work?
[18:32] <xentity1x> EriC^^, it doesn't even seem to be an option
[18:37] <EriC^^> xentity1x: try creating a new user from a tty
[18:37] <EriC^^> sudo adduser newuser
[18:39] <xentity1x> eric^^,  the gui is stuck at my user login. I tried creating a new user but it doesn't give me the option to login to it.
[18:39] <EriC^^> xentity1x: try sudo service lightdm restart
[18:40] <EriC^^> xentity1x: type cat /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:40] <EriC^^> xentity1x: nevermind, type cat /etc/lightdm/*.conf | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:42] <xentity1x> eric^^, okay restarting lightdm didnt help. What does the other command do?
[18:42] <EriC^^> uploads the config files
[18:42] <guzzlefry> Do the various flavors of Ubuntu vary any other than desktop environment?
[18:42] <EriC^^> xentity1x: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
[18:42] <Krepay> 𝓘 𝔀𝓸𝓾𝓵𝓭 𝓵𝓲𝓴𝒆 𝓽𝓸 𝓲𝓷𝒇𝓸𝓻𝓶 𝔂𝓸𝓾 𝓽𝓱𝓪𝓽 𝓷𝓸 𝓸𝓷𝒆 𝓰𝓲𝓿𝒆𝓼 𝓪 𝒇𝓾𝓬𝓴 𝓪𝓫𝓸𝓾𝓽 𝔀𝓱𝓪𝓽 𝔂𝓸𝓾 𝓽𝓱𝓲𝓷𝓴.
[18:42] <EriC^^> !ops | Krepay
[18:42] <xentity1x> eric^^, http://termbin.com/t9rv
[18:43] <EriC^^> guzzlefry: the packages also vary
[18:43] <guzzlefry> EriC^^: What about default device support?
[18:43] <xentity1x> eric^^, okay reconfiguring lightdm didnt help
[18:44] <EriC^^> guzzlefry: same thing i'd guess
[18:44] <guzzlefry> To be more direct, will a Steam Controller work out of the box with Xubuntu 16.04?
[18:44] <EriC^^> more or less
[18:44] <EriC^^> xentity1x: try using nomodeset from grub
[18:44] <EriC^^> !nomodeset | xentity1x
[18:44] <EriC^^> guzzlefry: no idea
[18:47] <xentity1x> eric^^ okay so im at the grub. Where do I put the nomodeset/
[18:47] <xentity1x> ?
[18:47] <gnash> I'm trying to run ubuntu on virtualbox on osx but getting display issues on the retina screen (not on external monitor) such as black squares over text/fields
[18:48] <EriC^^> xentity1x: press "e" over ubuntu
[18:48] <Khaotic> hi all
[18:48] <EriC^^> then go to the line that says linux /boot/vmlinuz ... quiet splash and put nomodeset there
[18:48] <EriC^^> and press ctrl+x
[18:49] <docmur> I'm working on securing a server, I'm looking for a good remote logging application, I've used rsyslog in the past but does anyone else know of good tools?
[18:49] <imark> anyone here any good with LVM, I have only a basic understanding, I'm getting a input/output error when I run pvdisplay or pvscan, online I find people get it a lot with vgdisplay if a disc is uncleanly removed but cant find the same answer regarding pvdisplay
[18:49] <EriC^^> docmur: try #ubuntu-server too
[18:49] <EriC^^> and ##linux
[18:50] <imark> considering a nuke/wipe but thought id check in here first
[18:50] <slazer> Hi, I'd like to install 16.04.1 on BTRFS, but failed to find a tutorial. Are there any caveats, or is it similar to Fedora 24 partition layout?
[18:50] <EriC^^> imark: did you try smartctl, just a thought
[18:50] <docmur> Fair enough
[18:50] <imark> EriC^^, Dont know it, what do I do?
[18:50] <FloxerDoom> so any luck for me for a X restart session on irc ?
[18:50] <EriC^^> imark: sudo apt-get install smartmontools
[18:50] <MonkeyDust> !btrfs | slazer start here
[18:50] <EriC^^> imark: then sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdX
[18:51] <xentity1x> eric^^, okay now it's reading quiet splash nomodeset
[18:51] <EriC^^> xentity1x: ok press ctrl+x to boot
[18:51] <FloxerDoom> dax comeon help me
[18:51] <FloxerDoom> Xrestart
[18:51] <xentity1x> eric^^, hmm same problem
[18:52] <FloxerDoom> both laptops are on ... only the good one has internet tho but i have a Memstick
[18:52] <FloxerDoom> ho can help me restart X
[18:52] <FloxerDoom> ???
[18:52] <imark> EriC^^, on the drive not the partition correct?
[18:52] <EriC^^> imark: correct
[18:52] <FloxerDoom> :(
[18:53] <Bashing-om> FloxerDoom: What is the release you are on, and what is the desktop ? The commands to restart X varies .
[18:54] <imark> EriC^^, What does it tell me, im getting an unknownusb bridge message atm
[18:54] <ducasse> FloxerDoom: as you were told, hardy is unsupported for over three years now
[18:54] <EriC^^> imark: it's supposed to show the smart test results for the drive
[18:55] <imark> EriC^^, I need to specify device type with d flag, h
[18:55] <EriC^^> imark: never had to myself
[18:55] <imark> jeez, just check the man page, the d flag is confusing
[18:56] <EriC^^> usually sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda does the trick
[18:56] <imark> q
[18:56] <imark> whoops, rouge q
[18:57] <FloxerDoom> and irc over 20 years ducasse whats ur point i only need help online about reviving an old laptop that cant run the news
[18:57] <FloxerDoom> unless
[18:57] <FloxerDoom> u guide me the usb upgrade method
[18:57] <FloxerDoom> lol
[18:57] <FloxerDoom> :)
[18:57] <imark> EriC^^, no worries, ill just nuke these drive tomorrow and steamroll them
[18:57] <FloxerDoom> nuke me instead
[18:57] <FloxerDoom> no probµ
[18:58] <ioria> FloxerDoom, what's your problem ?
[18:58] <OerHeks> FloxerDoom, burn a cd and do a fresh install, ... hardy... come on..
[18:59] <FloxerDoom> I need restore libpaper1 to reinstall X or ubuntu-desktop or ubuuntu-gnome-dekstop
[19:00] <FloxerDoom> burn 16.06 and write to usb over hardy ? possible ? or just restoring libpaper1 fixes ? apt crash was the prob loosing X
[19:00] <MonkeyDust> FloxerDoom  install 14.04 or 16.04, then ask again
[19:01] <FloxerDoom> whats the guide for usb upgrade ?
[19:01] <Bashing-om> FloxerDoom: Consider, the software repository for hardy no longer exist . There is no support for it !
[19:02] <FloxerDoom> ioria:  got some time in privat ?
[19:02] <MonkeyDust> !upgrade | FloxerDoom
[19:02] <administrador_> hello. I have 16.04. AMD beta drivers.How do you open a control panel for my GPU?
[19:02] <FloxerDoom> repo was old releases
[19:02] <FloxerDoom> works great on old 2K machines tho
[19:03] <ioria> FloxerDoom, why do you want to use hardy ?
[19:03] <FloxerDoom> <:msg ioria msg me some commands to understand my prob
[19:03] <OerHeks> administrador_, amd betadrivers are not supported, as it is beta and not in our repos :-(
[19:03] <FloxerDoom> becuz te laptop is very old and cant seem to install newer at that time
[19:03] <MonkeyDust> FloxerDoom  backup personal files, then do a fresh install of 14.04 or 16.04
[19:03] <FloxerDoom> no fresh only intrested in upgrade
[19:04] <FloxerDoom> hidden partitions parts i dont want wiped
[19:04] <ioria> FloxerDoom, how old ?
[19:04] <joelio> FloxerDoom: seriously, dist-upgrading all that way up will bring so much cruft it's not worth it.
[19:04] <administrador_> OerHeks, So nobody knows how to use it?
[19:05] <ioria> FloxerDoom, cpu and ram ?
[19:05] <bitnap> you can use bash to backup files
[19:05] <joelio> I'd use tar ;)
[19:05] <FloxerDoom> 2K1
[19:05] <bitnap> in a tar file
[19:05] <formula13x> el
[19:05] <ioria> FloxerDoom, i run lubuntu 16.04 on pentium M with 256 mb
[19:05] <OerHeks> administrador_, it is just a AMDgpu driver, we have tested ones.
[19:05] <FloxerDoom> bios cmos spoof corruption dont show me original bios after a bios fix
[19:06] <FloxerDoom> it was no longer booting
[19:06] <FloxerDoom> now its back at booting
[19:06] <FloxerDoom> great ioria help me if u can should i use usb upgrade with apt offline ?
[19:07] <joelio> you're gonna have a hard time ;)
[19:07] <FloxerDoom> :)
[19:07] <dev__> =)
[19:07] <ioria> FloxerDoom,  your specs, please ?
[19:07] <FloxerDoom> ubuntu 8.04
[19:07] <administrador_> OerHeks, I am pretty sure my GPU is supported. Do you know if there is  way to open a control center for simple tasks like change resolution,?
[19:07] <FloxerDoom> 2.6.24-32-generic
[19:07] <ioria> FloxerDoom,  hardware specs
[19:08] <FloxerDoom> prims nitro wlan g
[19:08] <FloxerDoom> gforce fx
[19:08] <cadem> hello
[19:08] <FloxerDoom> initel inside pentium 4
[19:08] <FloxerDoom> designed for win ?
[19:08] <joelio> I'm not sure you've thought through the config files and how much has changed in 8 years
[19:08] <ioria> FloxerDoom,  ok.... ram ?
[19:08] <FloxerDoom> commands needed
[19:09] <cadem> does anyone use xchat, i'm trying to learn how to change the proxy settings for Socks5
[19:09] <MonkeyDust> cadem  use hexchat instead
[19:09] <cadem> okay, I'll give it a shot
[19:09] <cadem> thanks
[19:09] <joelio> or configure the network proxy settings
[19:09] <FloxerDoom> ioria: got some commands that show me what u want to know ?
[19:10] <joelio> FloxerDoom: free -m
[19:10] <ioria> FloxerDoom,  cat /proc/meminfo | grep MemTotal
[19:10] <joelio> shows memory, but srsly it'll be a painful uprade, better to backup and do clean imho
[19:11] <FloxerDoom> not needed
[19:11] <FloxerDoom> not mutch files left on system part to backup
[19:11] <joelio> so just start from scratch
[19:12] <FloxerDoom> 512
[19:12] <FloxerDoom> memfree 262
[19:12] <FloxerDoom> doing nothingµ
[19:12] <cadem> on hexchat now, I see the settings, thanks
[19:12] <ioria> FloxerDoom,  i suggest lubuntu 14.04
[19:12] <MonkeyDust> FloxerDoom  yes, if you don't even have to backup, then simply fresh install ... it's the fastest, easiest and cleanest way
[19:12] <ioria> FloxerDoom,  clean install
[19:12] <FloxerDoom> why lubuntu ? whats better at it ?
[19:12] <joelio> uses LXDE, lighter
[19:13] <FloxerDoom> i dont want to loose partition with costly intel
[19:13] <ioria> FloxerDoom,  lighter.... maybe install fluxbox instead
[19:13] <joelio> what shipped with the original Raspbery Pi, same RAM, probaly weaker CPI
[19:13] <joelio> s/CPI/CPU
[19:13] <FloxerDoom> whats the cmd .... if i fix usb with cdrom image and apt-grade
[19:13] <MonkeyDust> FloxerDoom  please don't reject every advice you get here
[19:13] <FloxerDoom> im turning around MonkeyDust
[19:14] <FloxerDoom> whats the clean way on win7 to prepare usb with image
[19:14] <FloxerDoom> where the link ? to usbpreptool and image ?
[19:14] <FloxerDoom> automount usb and apt-add mount
[19:14] <FloxerDoom> upgrade
[19:14] <FloxerDoom> dist-upgrade ?
[19:15] <ioria> FloxerDoom,  on win you  use rufus or pendrivelinux
[19:15] <joelio> unetbootin
[19:15] <dax> unetbootin has issues. rufus works perfectly
[19:15] <joelio> works fine for me everytime
[19:16] <ioria> also the new ver od UUI has issues
[19:16] <joelio> althoguh a dd of an iso is more likley :)
[19:16] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick#Creating_a_bootable_Ubuntu_USB_flash_drive_from_Windows
[19:18] <joelio> right, so it has issues wuth UEFI, whihc in a 2001 machine, won't be an isse ;)
[19:19] <kubast2> Hey guys ,ehm https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel ,where is the "debian/scripts/*" folder ?
[19:19] <kubast2> everything looks fine until I get to this part
[19:19] <joelio> kubast2: ooi why are you compiling a custom one?
[19:20] <kubast2> Small thing :P
[19:20] <kubast2> I want to change the compression
[19:20] <bekks> Compression of what?
[19:20] <kubast2> to lz4 it boots faster :P
[19:20] <kubast2> bekks, kernel
[19:20] <c23> hola
[19:20] <joelio> it'll be negligible
[19:20] <bekks> Compression of nthe initramfs, you mean.
[19:20] <c23> hi
[19:20] <c23> speak spanish
[19:20] <bekks> kubast2: How often do you boot so that you notice it?
[19:21] <MonkeyDust> !es | c23
[19:21] <kubast2> bekks, 3 times a day
[19:21] <kubast2> bekks, sometimes more
[19:21] <kubast2> sometimes less
[19:22] <joelio> if you *really* wanted to, then you #apt-get source linux-image-generic.. cd to src, make menuconfig, and you can make dpkg (or use fakeroot and do debian way).. but tbh, it'd take you londer to compile than all the aggregated boot time saved for probably several hundred years of usage :)
[19:23] <joelio> if you're pulling the image from really bad hardware of over a sloowwwwwwww link then maybe a better format or compresssion would help, but not lz4 :)
[19:24] <FloxerDoom> so ioria witch image should i download in the mean while
[19:24] <ioria> FloxerDoom,  i suggest lubuntu 14.04 ...
[19:24] <kubast2> joelio, actually with a really bad hardware lz4 would be fine
[19:24] <FloxerDoom> why not 16.04 ?
[19:24] <kubast2> joelio, given that it's hdd would also be a bootleneck
[19:24] <FloxerDoom> got a link to 14 lubuntu ?
[19:24] <joelio> kubast2: what I mean is the ratio between speed and size of compressable target
[19:24] <kubast2> a fast decompressor could save quiet a lot of time :P
[19:25] <FloxerDoom> i allready feel lobotimine
[19:25] <ioria> FloxerDoom,  if it's all ok, you can upgrade easily
[19:25] <FloxerDoom> :)
[19:25] <ioria> FloxerDoom,  http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/14.04/release/
[19:25] <Ben64> kubast2: no, it'd save maybe 2 seconds
[19:26] <FloxerDoom> thkx over and out radiositter
[19:26] <sipior> kubast2: you don't have to justify yourself here. i think it's great that your taking the time to learn a bit more about things work under the hood.
[19:26] <sipior> kubast2: it's not really about the boot time, you know?
[19:27]  * joelio spent too many hours of life rabit holing :)
[19:27] <bekks> kubast2: How large is your initramfs, compressed, file?
[19:28] <sipior> joelio: rabbit holing is called "gaining experience" in many other places.
[19:28] <kubast2> bekks, it's a fresh xubuntu 16.04 install with -31
[19:28] <bekks> kubast2: that doesnt answer my question.
[19:28] <joelio> sipior: no, it's called rabbit holing.. Im meerly suggesting that the outcome is not worth the compile time
[19:28] <joelio> if it's an autotelic exercise, fair enough
[19:29] <joelio> that wasn't the impression
[19:29] <kubast2> bekks, it kinda does since right now it's a generic initr
[19:29] <bekks> kubast2: I totally doesnt. How large is your initramfs, compressed, file?
[19:29] <kubast2> 35M
[19:29] <kubast2> initrd.img ?
[19:30] <sipior> joelio: i don't think you know nearly enough to judge that one way or the other.
[19:30] <joelio> apart from what was written by the op of course
[19:30] <joelio> anyway, enoguh :)
[19:30] <bekks> kubast2: Yeah. So how much time you will save by using a different decompressor?
[19:31] <kubast2> bekks, not a lot from my previous install it was 5 sec
[19:31] <drwho> hello
[19:31] <kubast2> I was downloading kernel from kernel.org previouslly through
[19:32] <bekks> kubast2: I strongly doubt you will save 5 seconds from pure decompression of a 35M file.
[19:33] <drwho> so, can you tell me about why i can't use internet from my android phone (with Android hot spot)
[19:33] <Ben64> doesn't sound like an ubuntu issue
[19:34] <MonkeyDust> drwho  ask in a android channel
[19:34] <sipior> drwho: do you mean that you're connecting to an android hotspot with a linux machine?
[19:36] <drwho> but why, when i share internet connection on my phone (create  wi-fi spot on my phone), i explore this internet on my iPad, but laptop with ubuntu doesn't work
[19:37] <sipior> drwho: at what point does it fail, exactly?
[19:37] <kubast2> bekks, still it isn't my main install :P ,so I can leave it for the time it's compiling ,I will want to tinker around and have fun with .config/make menuconfig file
[19:38] <drwho> i see that my connection is quite, but there is no internet
[19:39] <kubast2> beside chainging vmlinuz/initrd compression and activating westwood ,I have never changed any other setting :P
[19:39] <tatertots> drwho is your ubuntu receiving a up address from the hot spot? have you looked at this ip in comparison with the working iPad/laptop ip that are connected to same hot spot?
[19:39] <drwho> right, to the same spot
[19:40] <drwho> stop, may be not the same ip
[19:40] <drwho> wait, please
[19:41] <kubast2> worst that can happen is I will get kernel panic ,and I can always recovery by launching previouslly working kernel
[19:41] <tatertots> well two devices shouldn't have the exact same ip
[19:42] <tatertots> but if they are both connected via the same hot spot they should at least be in the same range
[19:43] <drwho> lol, i mean the same subnet mask
[19:44] <drwho> and the same default rout
[19:44] <tatertots> yes
[19:45] <RadiationMan> Hi, I'm having trouble setting up an sll certificate for a key I generated.
[19:46] <RadiationMan> I've reached this output:
[19:46] <RadiationMan> $ openssl req -new -key server.key -out server.csr
[19:46] <RadiationMan> unable to find 'distinguished_name' in config
[19:46] <RadiationMan> problems making Certificate Request
[19:46] <RadiationMan> 139810327676576:error:0E06D06C:configuration file routines:NCONF_get_string:no value:conf_lib.c:335:group=req name=distinguished_name
[19:46] <tatertots> also drwho have you tried pinging the hot spot ip and the other devices ip while assuming you are connected via this hot spot
[19:46] <drwho> have you ever test ubuntu under the Android hot spot wi-fi? may be it has problem with encription or drivers
[19:47] <joelio> yes, I've used ubuntu + android hotspot and it works.. the usb tethering also works
[19:47] <RadiationMan> I successfully ran this just prior:
[19:47] <RadiationMan> openssl rsa -in server.key -out server.key.insecure
[19:47] <RadiationMan> mv server.key server.key.secure
[19:47] <RadiationMan> mv server.key.insecure server.key
[19:47] <tatertots> I've tether over USB and connected to hotspot just fine on ubuntu 12.04 all the way to 16.04 drwho
[19:48] <SrAnAnBlaNkO> yes also never had any issues
[19:48] <SrAnAnBlaNkO> works as should.
[19:48] <drwho> ok, thank you...i'll be back with logs, if it this problems will apear
[19:50] <tatertots> also make sure you don't have a static ip set and not remember you set a static ip, I can see a person setting a static and then connecting to something that assumes the nic will be setup via dhcp
[19:50] <SrAnAnBlaNkO> I tend to use the sharing via wifi to be the most ideal
[19:51] <SrAnAnBlaNkO> using androids hotspot connect via wifi? why we wanna do thethering (eventhough ubuntu does that just fine)
[19:55] <varaindemian> how can I make qpdfview remember the page where I was after closing the pdf file?
[19:55] <cadem> I'm using hexchat and unable to connect to OnionNet, does anyone know what port to use for the FTW server?
[19:57] <ahrc333ff> cadem: if onionNet is a Tor service, I dn't believe you can easily configure Tor to work with Freenode.
[19:59] <Fuchs> you can't at all
[19:59] <Fuchs> but it seems he wants something != freenode
[20:03] <c23> hi
[20:03] <c23> quit
[20:08] <varaindemian> how can I make qpdfview remember the page where I was after closing the pdf file?
[20:08] <Islah> Hello again friends
[20:09] <ahrc333ff> Islah: did you get the new wireless card?
[20:09] <Islah> Tried my local stores and they had none that i deemed compatible
[20:09] <Islah> so ill just order one
[20:10] <ahrc333ff> Sounds like a plan.
[20:10] <Islah> they had a usb to ethernet that might have worked but google was no help
[20:10] <ahrc333ff> Amazon gives quick delivery these days. So, it's all good!
[20:11] <OerHeks> Islah, so do you have a support question, or just chit-chat again?
[20:11] <Islah> Just sayin hi :)
[20:19] <cadem> That's correct. I'm looking for something not freenode. I'm trying to configure hexchat to connect to this server...ftwircdwyhghzw4i.onion/6667... But without success.
[20:19] <cadem> can anyone else connect to it?
[20:19] <MonkeyDust> cadem  onion... is that tor related?
[20:20] <ahrc333ff> I'm not on the tor network, cannot test it.
[20:20] <cadem> yeah, so I have a proxy setup in the preferences
[20:20] <cadem> using localhost and port 9150 over Socks5
[20:21] <cadem> obviously bypassing the proxy for this chat
[20:21] <asar> why is my ubuntu always getting broken packages?
[20:22] <Bashing-om> asar: Maybe, because you install 3rd party software that is non-ubuntu ?
[20:22] <Karrde> cosmic rays
[20:22] <OerHeks> asar, maybe you added a dead repo, or something else, show us your update log on paste.ubuntu.com
[20:23] <asar> OerHeks: i suspect uget download manager is causing the issue
[20:23] <brian> looking for information on audio decoders for kodi running on Ubuntu 16
[20:23] <asar> Bashing-om: i dont think so
[20:23] <theTroy> hi! After taking battery out of my laptop ubuntu only boots with ACPI=off. That results in 1 cpu usable in the OS out of the 4 that I have. I can't find a way to either boot without the acpi flag or fix the cpu issue due to acpi=off flag
[20:24] <theTroy> please help :< :)
[20:24] <Islah> atleast he can install packages :(
[20:24] <Guest45788>  \
[20:24] <OerHeks> asar, show us your update log please
[20:25] <asar> OerHeks: my internet is kinda slow, so it will take a while
[20:26] <lkh> hi everybody, I have a problem on my freshly installed ubuntu 16.04.1 every now and then it just free
[20:26] <lkh> zes dead with nothing to do but cold start. Any idea where to  start debugging?
[20:28] <asar> OerHeks: you mean sudo apt update log?
[20:28] <OerHeks> asar, yes, from terminal
[20:32] <asar> OerHeks: @bar(input):button2@bar(input):button3@item(input_text):button3@item(input_text):button1
[20:33] <kaoron> Hi there, I have a small Problem, my P key doesn't fire KeyPress X events when no modifiers are aPPlied. Thus I can't tyPe a lowercase P. Please helP
[20:33] <asar> OerHeks: paste.ubuntu.com/21807999
[20:35] <kaoron> I'm on 16.04.1, I have a french béPo layout (like dvorak), it used to work (a few days ago), how to troubleshoot that ?
[20:35] <OerHeks> asar, and where are the errors??
[20:35] <kaoron> And I'm using gnome-desktoP
[20:36] <tatertots> members of the /etc/sudoers still can't make changes like install app store apps or run backup, anybody have a guide on giving users these permisssions
[20:37] <Ben64> did you change that file?
[20:37] <asar> OerHeks: it hasnt finished updating
[20:37] <tatertots> trying to run a backup restore using the backup included with 16.04
[20:37] <tatertots> but as a user that is in etc/sudoers
[20:38] <Ben64> tatertots: did you change that file? normally you just add a user to the "sudo" group to give them access to use sudo
[20:39] <tatertots> I changed the file
[20:40] <Ben64> tatertots: well, don't. add users to the sudo group
[20:41] <tatertots> adding them to the sudo group will allow them to authenticate desktop app store and running backups etc?
[20:42] <ikonia> thats overkill
[20:42] <ikonia> just create a sudo rule for a group, call it appstore or something
[20:42] <avionic> after unmounting a network drive, how can i remove the saved password?
[20:42] <ikonia> avionic: it's in your keyring, remove it from gnome-keyring
[20:42] <asar> OerHeks: paste.ubuntu.com/21808893
[20:43] <tatertots> my ldap/activedirectory members that have sudo access are manually written and working in that /etc/sudoers file so i'll have to think of another way to get ldap/active directory users in  with this add to sudo group method
[20:44] <ikonia> no you don't
[20:44] <ikonia> does ldap manage your sudo controls ?
[20:45] <udn> hello all
[20:45] <udn> i want see a movie with acelerated hardware , i have a nvidia
[20:45] <dev__> udn: hello
[20:45] <udn> i want watch
[20:46] <udn> sorry
[20:46] <Ben64> udn: use mplayer2 or mpv
[20:46] <tatertots> ah let me try and add one of the domain accounts to the local sudo group
[20:46] <udn> vlc did not work?
[20:46] <ikonia> tatertots: n ono no
[20:46] <udn> i run this test
[20:46] <ikonia> tatertots: does ldap manage your sudo access
[20:46] <udn> vaInitialize failed with error code -1 (unknown libva error),exit
[20:46] <Ben64> udn: vlc is kind of crappy
[20:46] <udn> i have problems with driver
[20:46] <joelio> tatertots: I'm not sure what implementation of ldap controls your using but I've had success with sssd and using that as a sudo (leveraging ldap)
[20:46] <tatertots> no active directory isn't doing my sudo access
[20:46] <ikonia> tatertots: so it's active directory, not sudo
[20:47] <ikonia> correct ?
[20:47] <Ben64> udn: try mplayer2 or mpv, put the output on paste.ubuntu.com and give the link here
[20:47] <tatertots> I have a security group in AD
[20:47] <ikonia> sorry - active directory, not ldap
[20:47] <ikonia> tatertots: ok - so you should be able to use active directory to manage/authenticate sudo services
[20:47] <udn> thank you Ben64
[20:47] <tatertots> that AD security group is in the /etc/sudoers file
[20:47] <ikonia> tatertots: it shouldn't be in the sudoers file
[20:47] <udn> smplayer is based in mplayer , can be util too?
[20:47] <ikonia> it should be held within active directory
[20:47] <Ben64> udn: try mplayer2 or mpv, put the output on paste.ubuntu.com and give the link here
[20:49] <dev__> wq
[20:49] <dev__> q
[20:49] <RtMF> dev__: wrong window :-P
[20:49] <Bashing-om> asar: Corrupted control file ? Try ' sudo rm -fr /var/lib/apt/lists ; sudo mkdir -pv /var/lib/apt/lists/partial ; sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ' . to rebuild the control files with good info .
[20:49] <RtMF> dev__: right editor though ;)
[20:53] <udn> Ben64,
[20:53] <udn> same problem
[20:53] <udn> with mplayer23
[20:53] <udn> with mplayer2
[20:53] <udn> this is the problem when i run vainfo
[20:54] <udn> can i paste 2 lines here?
[20:54] <Ben64> udn: try mplayer2 or mpv, put the output on paste.ubuntu.com and give the link here
[20:54] <Pici> no
[20:54] <udn> http://pastebin.com/qsFUYgFG
[20:55] <ubuntu> hi
[20:55] <ubuntu> what is the command is sudo to downloan mime?
[20:55] <bekks> udn: That question doesnt make sense, can you rephrase it?
[20:55] <Bashing-om> !mime
[20:55] <honeytoes> hi guys
[20:56] <udn> bekks, i want enable acceleration for watch videos, i have a nvidia 710
[20:56] <Guest24956> i am trying to view some webpage and it says it needs mime
[20:56] <Ben64> udn: try mplayer2 or mpv, put the output on paste.ubuntu.com and give the link here
[20:56] <Ben64> udn: i've said this 4 times now, why can't you do this
[20:56] <bekks> Guest24956: Can you give us the exact, full error you get?
[20:57] <udn> Ben64, i was tried with mplayer2
[20:57] <udn> same problem
[20:57] <honeytoes> bye guys
[20:57] <Ben64> udn: read the whole line above
[20:57] <Guest24956> i have 16.04 and i ran bleachbit, now I can not view some webpages that require plugins
[20:57] <udn> videos see in bad quality
[20:57] <bekks> Guest24956: Can you give us the exact, full error you get?
[20:58] <Bashing-om> Guest24956: The name 'mime' has no return for a package in xenial .. more info required to answer .
[20:58] <Ben64> udn: try mplayer2 or mpv, PUT THE OUTPUT ON PASTE.UBUNTU.COM AND GIVE THE LINK HERE!
[20:58] <udn> ok
[20:59] <Ben64> this is step one, and it's taken 13 minutes so far
[21:03] <mallu> ubuntu 16.04 running on Virtualbox. Did an upgrade. Now no desktop, no menu etc
[21:04] <mallu> any help would be appreciated
[21:05] <Ben64> mallu: what kind of upgrade did you do
[21:05] <mallu> apt-get upgrade
[21:06] <Ben64> hmm, that shouldn't affect that
[21:07] <mallu> Ben64: now all I see is just plain desktop. I can right click and bringup terminal, settings etc
[21:07] <_KaszpiR_> anyone got idea how the hell to permanently disable screensaver when using xrdp?
[21:07] <tigefa> try Ctrl+Alt+t open terminal
[21:08] <YDU_sleeping> mallu: What "desktop" are you using - Unity? Gnome? Mate? KDE?
[21:08] <mallu> unity
[21:10] <YDU_sleeping> mallu: So you see NO panel, NO "dock" on the left hand side, nothing, nada?
[21:10] <mallu> YDU_sleeping: nothing, nada
[21:11] <OverCoder> Hey guys! Check out the website I just pushed to the web! I think it's useful for Ubuntu :3
[21:11] <OverCoder> https://repogen.codebottle.ml/
[21:11] <OverCoder> I wonder if I should contact Ubuntu's webmasters so maybe they can push it to ubuntu.com somehow :p
[21:11] <YDU_sleeping> mallu: And is it safe to assume you've logged out and logged back in again - just to test this?
[21:12] <mallu> YDU_sleeping: yes.. rebooted it couple of times
[21:13] <OerHeks> OverCoder, that website already exists ..
[21:13] <OverCoder> OerHeks, repogen.simplylinux.ch huh?
[21:14] <OverCoder> I mean I contacted the owner of got his databases and reinvented the website, it's only temporarily pushed to repogen.codebottle.ml, but as soon as the dev gets back to me repogen.simplylinux.ch would be replaced with that
[21:14] <OerHeks> OverCoder,  and why do you use the old way of adding ppaś  ? it is a nice try, but not worth using.
[21:15] <OverCoder> well yeah but this is a sources.list, not a terminal
[21:15] <YDU_sleeping> mallu: Being that you've done "an upgrade", the most likely cause is that particular prefs/configs are causing the Unity desktop to not load properly...does that make sense? Something to try is to run: unity-panel-service
[21:17] <YDU_sleeping> mallu: And here's something that might help: http://ubuntuguide.net/how-to-restart-unity-without-reset-compiz
[21:22] <tgm4883> OverCoder: Honestly, I'm not sure the point of this. Enabling the repos via software sources would seem like a better solution to me, and it allows you to "select the best server" rather than whatever country one you are choosing for me. I also don't like the way you handle PPAs, as it's more messy than having them in separate files. Further, you're going to
[21:22] <tgm4883> have to go to the terminal anyway to edit the sources.list file you want to add this to. Lastly, this isn't a support request and should be in #ubuntu-discuss (which I'd be happy to continue the discussion) rather than this channel
[21:23] <SuperLag> Is it still possible to use Ubuntu to do an AV scan on a Windows machine? or have all the Linux AV utils long since died off?
[21:23] <toxik> You can use ClamAV
[21:24] <k1l_> yeah, use the clamav package
[21:24] <YankDownUnder> ClamAV certainly ain't dead...
[21:27] <elky> OverCoder: it's generally preferred that you get the permission of ops before advertising stuff in their channels, otherwise it's unsolicited advertising...
[21:28] <toxik> With the Ubuntu Subsystem on Windows, will you be able to install Wine on Windows?
[21:28] <toxik> ;-)
[21:29] <OverCoder> elky, heh well, I wouldn't consider it advertising since it's totally free and like, uh it doesn't make sense for me to grab audience, it won't change my life
[21:29] <YankDownUnder> toxik: PMSL ;)
[21:30] <elky> OverCoder: well the thing is, people are going to use that... thing, and then cry to us for support when your "trusted" stuff messes their stuff up.
[21:31] <elky> OverCoder: so we'd rather not have anything to do with that.
[21:31] <coolbreeze227> elky what was he advertising?
[21:31] <elky> coolbreeze227: a repo generator with empty promises.
[21:31] <jinxi1> I installed nvidia-367, how do I configure ubuntu to use this driver intead in the console?
[21:33] <elky> OverCoder: i'd be ok personally with a version of that which excludes the PPA stuff, and had you asked you would have found this out before getting told off here.
[21:34] <joelio> you can also just use mirror://mirrors.ubuntu.com/mirrors.txt in source list.. it'll do a geoip lookup, find your country and automagically give you the list of closest mirrors
[21:35] <OverCoder> elky, ah awesome, I'm gonna go do that. Thanks :3
[21:36] <elky> OverCoder: call past the ops channel and let us have a look over it before you advertise next time
[21:37] <brenda> Hi all... I'm on 16.04, after suspend I lose the mouse pointer? Any solution to this annoying problem?
[21:41] <mac_nibblet> Anyone on a dell xps 15 9550 having problems with their headphones on 16.04 ?
[21:42] <OverCoder> elky, sure!
[21:42] <mallu> so i have to do this everytime I logoff or restart my ubuntu 16.04 setsid compiz --replace
[21:43] <mallu> any idea what is going on here?
[21:43] <mallu> or how I can fix it so I don't have to run setsid compiz --replace
[21:44] <crito> hi, is there a way to disable shortcuts meta+[0-9] for launcher? already have some shortcuts there and won't have that launcher specific ones
[21:50] <YankDownUnder> mallu: No - you have to just "clean up" and possibly reset your "old" prefs/configs - that's what's causing the loading issues for you...as per the links I posted earlier...you can also just reset compiz - that's easy enough to do...
[21:51] <r0ckS0LiD> brenda: i think that is a 16.04 bug in some systems, try to switch between virtual consoles ctrl+alt+F1 then ctrl+alt+F7 and test if pointer is back
[21:52] <mallu> YankDownUnder: I'm following th link you sent me http://ubuntuguide.net/how-to-restart-unity-without-reset-compiz. How do you "cleanup" old prefs/configs? I have deleted ~/.config/compiz-1/compizconfig/*
[21:53] <YankDownUnder> mallu: This should be a quick easy fix => hit CTRL+ALT+F1, login to the console, type: dconf reset -f /lorg/compiz
[21:54] <YankDownUnder> mallu: After you've done that, you can type: sudo service lightdm restart => that should restart LightDM and take you back to the GUI login, and compiz SHOULD be a happy chappy after login...hmm? (keyword - SHOULD)
[21:57] <mallu> YankDownUnder: when running dconf reset -f /lorg/compiz I'm getting error: cannot autolaunch D-Bus without X11 display
[21:58] <YankDownUnder> mallu: Accccchhhhh...right...well, do CTRL-ALT-F7 and get yourself back to the desktop, open a terminal, and do it from there - or run it from the ALT-F2 "run dialog"
[21:59] <mallu> YankDownUnder: done that still having the same issue with desktop
[22:00] <YankDownUnder> mallu: As per https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2321539&page=2 => you might want to reboot
[22:01] <mallu> YankDownUnder: Already rebooted... still same :(
[22:01] <fluvvell> is there any way to specify a nameserver with NetworkManager's VPN so that hosts in the network can get resolved?
[22:01] <YankDownUnder> mallu: The link I just sent you (https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2321539&page=2) take a read through...
[22:02] <mallu> YankDownUnder: will do thanks
[22:02] <YankDownUnder> mallu: Lemme know how that works out for ya, mate...eh? Coolbeans
[22:02] <fluvvell> I've read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VPNClient and found nothing about nameservers
[22:03] <arooni> hey folks
[22:04] <mallu> YankDownUnder: reinstalling unity did the trick.. thanks mate
[22:04] <bzb> using lubuntu 16.04 with latest flashplayer from adobe. but cannot watch any videos on https://rutube.ru/
[22:04] <YankDownUnder> mallu: Awesome, awesome - you're buying the donuts!
[22:05] <mallu> YankDownUnder: you got it :)
[22:05] <OerHeks> !cookie | YankDownUnder
[22:06] <YankDownUnder> OerHeks: Hehehe...cheers for that (must be a vegetarian cookie...)
[22:07] <OerHeks> ever seen a cookie eat meat? oh this is going !ot
[22:07] <danielthebague>  hi not sure if anyone is around but my upgrade to xenial 16.04.1 LTS didn't upgrade the kernel to 4.4 am i wrong in thinking that it should have?
[22:07] <YankDownUnder> :)
[22:08] <k1l_> danielthebague: make sure "linux-generic" is installed
[22:08] <YankDownUnder> danielthebague: You've upgraded to 16.04.1; you've rebooted, you've double-checked updates, and you're NOT using the 4.4 series kernel? Hmm?
[22:09] <danielthebague> ok installed it do i need to run apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade now?
[22:09] <llldino> If I do apt-get remove package, and package is in /etc/alternatives; is apt-get remove supposed to remove it from /etc/alternatives?
[22:09] <k1l_> danielthebague: if you installed that package now it should have pulled in the 4.4er kernel
[22:10] <YankDownUnder> */should/*
[22:10] <robert_> Hi, guys! I need some help. I'd like to install Trusted GRUB, having my entire disk encrypted. I have hardware called Trusted Platform Module (TPM 1.2) and I want to make used of it. Here is what I get during 'make install'. Would you take a look please? http://pastebin.com/DVMtJ1bR
[22:10] <k1l_> YankDownUnder: it will. but i dont know what the user typed in or did there.
[22:10] <danielthebague>  uname -r 3.13.0-44-generic still showing old kernel
[22:10] <danielthebague> ah need a reboot
[22:11] <k1l_> danielthebague: did you reboot after installing the "linux-generic" package?
[22:11] <danielthebague> nope going to now
[22:11] <danielthebague> thanks
[22:11] <YankDownUnder> ...yep...time for another coffee...
[22:12] <fluvvell> robertj, you should look at checkinstall rather than make, it creates a package you can then manage with dpkg
[22:13] <fluvvell> Guest74683,  you should look at checkinstall rather than make, it creates a package you can then manage with dpkg
[22:14] <danielthebague> Hi uname -r still staes the same older kernel
[22:14] <Ben64> danielthebague: what type of machine, what is the kernel
[22:14] <Trioxin> is it possible for me to setup my own ppa site like launchpad people can use with the add-apt-repository command?
[22:14] <Ben64> Trioxin: you can use launchpad
[22:15] <danielthebague> amd64 bit 3.13.0-44-generic
[22:15] <Ben64> paste the full line from 'uname -a'
[22:15] <k1l_> danielthebague: "ls -al /boot | nc termbin.com 9999" in a terminal please and show the url here
[22:15] <k1l_> danielthebague: and a "dpkg -l | grep linux-image | nc termbin.com 9999"
[22:15] <Ben64> and what type of machine is it? vm?
[22:16] <danielthebague> http://termbin.com/mox2
[22:16] <Trioxin> Ben64, I know that but I have a cool idea and using their site would sort of corrupt it
[22:16] <danielthebague> dpkg -l | grep linux-image | nc termbin.com 9999
[22:16] <danielthebague> http://termbin.com/0p0o
[22:16] <Trioxin> Ben64, I guess I could just make a standard repo
[22:16] <k1l_> danielthebague: well. the 4.4er kernel is installed. run a "sudo update-grub" to make sure grub gets thenew kernel
[22:17] <k1l_> danielthebague: that should have been run by the package install already. so maybe you missed to tell use there was some error. or your ubuntu is not handling the grub
[22:17] <xguruu> Having problems with logical partitions.  Have time to review my pastebin?  http://pastebin.com/n4nF0wWJ
[22:18] <robert1> fluvvell: Thanks for your reply. I've just installed checkinstall via apt-get and used it for a first time. It doesn't tell me much. Do i miss something? http://pastebin.com/7wxJ6GUj
[22:18] <danielthebague> update of grub has now detected it gues i need to reboot again
[22:19] <k1l_> yes
[22:19] <Trioxin> What would be the best course of action for cloning my ubuntu install to another disk if the whole drive is encrypted and the new drive is of a larger size? I can't increase the size of an encrypted volume.
[22:19] <bzb> any help? using lubuntu 16.04 with latest flashplayer from adobe. but cannot watch any videos on https://rutube.ru/
[22:19] <danielthebague> k1l_, thanks for your help, thought the upgrade would have installed the newer kernel automatically
[22:20] <danielthebague> thanks again
[22:20] <Trioxin> is it trivial to decrypt my drive, clone it to a new drive, and then re-encrypt it?
[22:20] <glitchd> hello everyone..
[22:20] <k1l_> danielthebague: if you installed a 14.04.3 or .4 or such they come with the lts kernel meta package. which doesnt upgrade to a new one automatically
[22:20] <glitchd> quick question
[22:20] <Trioxin> decrypt -> clone -> resize -> encrypt? I can't find much definitive on this
[22:21] <glitchd> i have ubuntu 15.10 installed with xubuntu desktop
[22:21] <k1l_> glitchd: upgrade to 16.04 since 15.10 is dead now
[22:22] <glitchd> im thinking about upgrading to 16.04, however im wondering if the xubuntu desktop that is installed now will carry over or will i have to install an update version of it, and if so, will i lose my settings and customizations?
[22:22] <fluvvell> robert1, I can't claim to know anything about trusted grub unfortunately, it does look like checkinstall is working for you though, but my guess is the "recipe for target" line holds the clue
[22:22] <toxik> Trioxin, look up cryptsetup-reencrypt
[22:23] <toxik> It seems fairly trivial to go through all that work
[22:23] <k1l_> glitchd: the xfce desktop will stay installed. and your settings will too
[22:24] <fluvvell> robert1, is it possible you might need elevated privileges ?
[22:25] <squinty> bzb,  might want to check out freshplayer.  using it here with firefox and videos at that site seem to play fine
[22:25] <glitchd> k1l_, the xfce dekstop wont upgrade with the base os?
[22:26] <BecauseSahib> can i dualboot 16.04 with 15.10 if i don't want to upgrade my current system?
[22:26] <k1l_> glitchd: it will upgrade.
[22:26] <k1l_> glitchd: i dont understand what the issue is?
[22:26] <glitchd> k1l_, mmk then, thanks bud
[22:26] <k1l_> !15.10 | BecauseSahib you cant stay on 15.10
[22:27] <glitchd> k1l_, there is no issue, im just checking before i do anythign just to make sure im not shooting myself in the foot
[22:27] <k1l_> bzb: did you use the flashplugin installer from ubuntu repo?
[22:27] <BecauseSahib> @k1l_ i mean to dual-boot 16.04 and 15.10, not just stay on 15.10
[22:28] <k1l_> BecauseSahib: there is no sense in dualbooting since there is no sense in booting a 15.10 since that is end-of.life now
[22:28] <glitchd> BecauseSahib, why would u want to do that?
[22:28] <glitchd> BecauseSahib, jw..
[22:28] <toxik> can't you just dist-upgrade?
[22:29] <neomex> how do i add unused hdd space to root?
[22:29] <k1l_> toxik: yes, you can upgrade the 15.10 to a 16.04.
[22:29] <neomex> without deleting anything
[22:29] <k1l_> neomex: boot a live usb/dvd and use gparted
[22:29] <glitchd> neomex, gparted
[22:30] <glitchd> k1l_, thx for the info im gonna start the upgrade now
[22:30] <srzn> Hey
[22:31] <srzn> Quit
[22:31] <neomex> how do i grant myself root privileges?
[22:32] <neomex> trying to use gparted from terminal
[22:33] <k1l_> neomex: booted to a live usb/dvd?
[22:34] <neomex> nop, running on vm
[22:34] <k1l_> neomex: you cant resize a system that is running
[22:34] <bzb> k1l_: thanks for the reply. I installed the 'restricted' package and now i can view videos on rutube.ru
[22:34] <neomex> makes sense
[22:34] <neomex> thanks and brb
[22:41] <ross`> does ubuntu do anything weird by default that makes it so you have to make changes for bind9 to work as a master with zonefiles?
[22:42] <ross`> I disabled ufw
[22:42] <ross`> named-checkconf, named-checkzone, and rndc all show that everything passes and that the zones are loaded correctly with the latest serial.
[22:42] <ross`> yet when I dig @127.0.0.1 domain.tld it returns just a question section
[22:43] <Afrotoast_> as soon as skyrim installs and proves it will actually run, i guess i'll get back to doing the moduler eq update.
[22:45] <ross`> ; Zone dump of 'dejci.com/IN'
[22:45] <ross`> ;
[22:45] <ross`> ; zone not loaded
[22:45] <ross`> I do see that, which is strange. Why does it say not loaded?
[22:45] <Afrotoast_> the only thing unstable about the current release is i wasn't super happy about the humanoid Dwemer manahearts, manablades, and bronzeblades i added to ruins.
[22:45] <ross`> root@dejci:~# /usr/sbin/named-checkconf -z| grep loaded
[22:45] <ross`> zone dejci.com/IN: loaded serial 2016080104
[22:45] <ross`> that seems to contradict itself
[22:45] <Afrotoast_> i mean after 26 3v3 fights that went one way or the other, they're balanced enough and very Soulsy
[22:46] <Afrotoast_> the first time you come across one, it'll be a rough fight
[22:46] <k1l_> Afrotoast_: this is the ubuntu support
[22:46] <Afrotoast_> oh right
[22:47] <Afrotoast_> sorry
[22:53] <ross`> Anyone here that knows how to use bind9?
[22:53] <cosmicfires> I use bind ross
[22:54] <cosmicfires> I'm trying to figure out what's doing nameservice on ubuntu desk top by defalt so I can shut it off
[22:54] <cosmicfires> and run bind9 because it's really slow
[22:54] <ross`> cosmicfires: any idea on why bind is not working? I mean everything has no errors for bind and tcpdump sees the dns requests coming in.
[22:54] <ross`> It just refuses to give answers
[22:54] <cosmicfires> anything in log files?
[22:54] <ross`> root@dejci:~# netstat -natp | grep 53
[22:54] <ross`> try that command
[22:54] <cosmicfires> could it be blocked by a firewall somewhere?
[22:55] <ross`> to see what is listening on 53
[22:55] <cosmicfires> does it answer locally?
[22:55] <ross`> firewall isn't blocking because tcpdump sees packets
[22:55] <ross`> it does not answer locally and I cannot figure out why!
[22:56] <TheFatherMind> Greetings #ubuntu!!!
[22:56] <cosmicfires> that is weird I've never seen that happen :(
[22:56] <brenda> ri
[22:56] <cosmicfires> thanks I found it it's called dnsmasq
[22:57] <brenda> r0ckS0LiD, Thanks. Can I get rid of the bug itself?
[22:57] <TheFatherMind> Question: The version of msmtp that I got from the ubuntu repository is from 2013. How can I get ubuntu to get the more current version of this into their repository? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/msmtp
[22:57] <ross`> ahhh thanks
[22:58] <ross`> nope, that didn't help..
[22:58] <ross`> I'm getting permission denied, but the zone file is owned by bind:bind
[22:58] <apb1963_> I need a flash substitute.  It constantly crashes...  I was considering gnash.  http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/i386/browser-plugin-gnash/download  Any warnings, caveats, reasons, etc. not to use it or a better solution?
[22:59] <brenda> After installing 16,04 my Firefox start up very slow, and it takes several seconds extra to be able to write any text in address or search
[22:59] <ross`> what is apparmor?
[23:00] <cosmicfires> ross`, mine have different permissions I will IM you and paste them
[23:00] <k1l_> !info msmtp | TheFatherMind
[23:00] <brenda> apb1963_, html5
[23:00] <k1l_> brenda: try with a new profile
[23:00] <apb1963_> brenda: I do not have control over the source.
[23:01] <k1l_> brenda: maybe some of your plugins is slowing it down
[23:01] <BrokenCog> hello.  I'm trying to configure OpenLDAP, with SSL/TLS.  I've created the certs, LDAP responds without encryption, but when connecting on port 636 for TLS, I get a "bad certificate" error.  I'm wondering where Ubuntu stores it's certs? which ldap isn't finding, or hoping someone might have another suggestion ...
[23:01] <brenda> k1l_, firefox -P is it?
[23:01] <BrokenCog> the exact error: additional info: SSLHandshake() failed: misc. bad certificate (-9825)
[23:01] <TheFatherMind> ubottu What are you getting at?  I installed it with apt-get and what I got was version 1.4.31-1.  Leading me to my question...
[23:02] <k1l_> TheFatherMind: so you are on ubuntu 14.04?
[23:02] <TheFatherMind> no
[23:02] <TheFatherMind> LOL bot.. I did not see the trigger above it.
[23:02] <TheFatherMind> oh shit I am.
[23:03] <k1l_> TheFatherMind: "apt-cache policy msmtp | nc termbin.com 9999" please run that in terminal and show the output url here
[23:03] <TheFatherMind> I swear I thought this was using a current version of ubuntu.  I will release upgrade
[23:03]  * TheFatherMind kicks himself
[23:04] <TheFatherMind> Since I am 2 releases behind I see no point in that.  I will upgrade the OS and come back if it does not fix my issue.
[23:04] <k1l_> TheFatherMind: what ubuntu release are you on?
[23:05] <TheFatherMind> Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS - KODIbuntu
[23:05] <Hydr0p0nX> BrokenCog: this is a bit outdated but may be useful https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SecuringOpenLDAPConnections
[23:05] <k1l_> TheFatherMind: you can do the LTS upgrade to 16.04.1 now
[23:05] <TheFatherMind> I thought it was current.
[23:05] <beanz> What are we talking about fella?
[23:05] <k1l_> TheFatherMind: the naming is year.month
[23:06] <TheFatherMind> OMG I AM 2 YEARS BEHIND!!!
[23:06] <BrokenCog> Hydr0p0nX: thanks.  that's what I've been using.
[23:06] <k1l_> TheFatherMind: which is fine for a LTS release.
[23:06] <beanz> So they release a new LTS version of ubuntu every year?
[23:06] <k1l_> !lts | TheFatherMind
[23:06] <k1l_> beanz: no. every second year
[23:06] <beanz> neat
[23:06] <dax> beanz: april of every even-numbered year
[23:06] <dax> 16.04, 14.04, 12.04, 10.04, 8.04, 6.06 (don't ask)
[23:06] <beanz> what about version 15?
[23:07] <dax> 15.04 and 15.10 weren't LTS, no
[23:07] <tgm4883> beanz: is 15 an even number?
[23:07] <beanz> ah, alright. I thought version 15 was LTS
[23:07] <cosmicfires> what's the best way to stop dnsmasq?
[23:07] <cosmicfires> I don't want it to run
[23:08] <tgm4883> cosmicfires: why not?
[23:08] <Hydr0p0nX> heya cosmicfires
[23:09] <cosmicfires> I want to run bind
[23:09] <cosmicfires> dnsmasq is slow I guess it doesn't cache locally
[23:09] <cosmicfires> I have my bind files I just need to run it
[23:09] <brenda> k1l_, it helped (firefox -P) Thanx for the tip
[23:10] <fluvvell> cosmicfires, why bind, are you running a server?
[23:10] <Forelle> yep it worked, thanks
[23:10] <fluvvell> cosmicfires, why do you say dnsmasq is slow?
[23:10] <cosmicfires> because I like bind that should be enough
[23:11] <tgm4883> cosmicfires: not in this channel...
[23:11] <cosmicfires> it's a nameserver for my lan
[23:11] <Forelle> wrong channel lmao
[23:12] <tgm4883> cosmicfires: you're running a nameserver for your lan on your desktop?
[23:13] <fluvvell> cosmicfires, bind has some pretty tight constraints and a lot of files to set up
[23:13] <cosmicfires> I have the setup for bind9 I used on my old system all I have to do is enable it
[23:13] <ross`> Aug  1 17:12:46 dejci kernel: [73553.576261] audit: type=1400 audit(1470093165.996:46): apparmor="DENIED" operation="open" profile="/usr/sbin/named" name="/var/host/dejci.com" pid=12592 comm="named" requested_mask="r" denied_mask="r" fsuid=111 ouid=0
[23:13] <ross`> I cannot fix this error.
[23:13] <ross`> I tried disabling apparmor completely, ,that didn't work.
[23:14] <ross`> I tried making chances to the etc/apparmor.d for usr.named
[23:14] <ross`> and then restarting and reloading apparmor
[23:14] <ross`> that didn't work either.
[23:14] <ross`> I just want to be able to load a zone file! Why can't I load a zone file!
[23:14] <ross`> chmod 644 /var/host/dejci.com
[23:14] <ross`> chown root:root /var/host/dejci.com
[23:14] <ross`> what the hell
[23:14] <cosmicfires> I promise not to ask any questions about bind if you tell me
[23:15] <ross`> Why won't this work. I have this exact configuration working on debian just done.
[23:15] <fluvvell> dnsmasq is tied into NetworkManager
[23:15] <ross`> named-checkconf returns fine, named-checkzone returns OK
[23:15] <tgm4883> cosmicfires: I'm iffy on this, but I think you'd need to comment out the dnsmasq line in /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf
[23:15] <ross`> why does /var/log/syslog say permission denied
[23:15] <ross`> and why does apparmor stop /var/log/query.log from being create?!?!?
[23:15] <cosmicfires> thanks tgm4883 I'll look there
[23:16] <fluvvell> you can remove it and NetworkManager if you set up your interfaces on /etc/network/interfaces manually.  This is clean
[23:16] <cosmicfires> I've run lots of nameservers
[23:16] <beanz__> Hey
[23:16] <tgm4883> fluvvell: there shouldn't be any need to remove network manager
[23:16] <cosmicfires> oh I'm already setting up my interfaces in /etc/network/interfaces manually
[23:16] <fluvvell> tgm4883, doesn't NM use dnsmasq ?
[23:16] <cosmicfires> but thanks for the advice
[23:17] <ross`> Aug  1 17:12:46 dejci named[12571]: zone dejci.com/IN: loading from master file /var/host/dejci.com failed: permission denied
[23:17] <ross`> can someone please explain this?!?
[23:17] <tgm4883> fluvvell: use is a weird word for it. It launches it's own dnsmasq
[23:17] <ross`> I tried doing chmod 777 and chown bind:bind and that did nothing either
[23:17] <tgm4883> fluvvell: it would use whatever DNS server you told it to
[23:17] <fluvvell> tgm4883, fair enough
[23:18] <beanz> sorry, was just testing some irc clients
[23:18] <Hydr0p0nX> ross`: what are user is launching bind?
[23:18] <ross`> Hydr0p0nX: I would assume bind or named or something
[23:19] <ross`> what the actual fuck, if I move the directory /var/host to /etc/bind/host it works.
[23:19] <ross`> What really pisses me off about ubuntu is this ufw and apparmor bullshit. I was hours and hours not being able to figure out what is breaking my stuff.
[23:20] <ross`> Why does ubuntu have this software?!?!
[23:20] <ross`> This is a linux server!
[23:20] <ross`> I apologize for my language
[23:20] <ross`> this stuff just really makes me angry
[23:20] <YankDownUnder> ross`: Is it safe to assume that you've asked in #ubuntu-server?
[23:20] <Hydr0p0nX> AppArmor is a security layer
[23:20] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AppArmor
[23:20] <ross`> apparmor needs to die in a fire
[23:21] <OerHeks> use an other linux version then
[23:22] <cosmicfires> I don't have an apparmor
[23:22] <YankDownUnder> Correct me if I'm wrong, but I would have assumed that "server" issues would be best discussed in the "server" channel - or am I being too logical? It IS Tuesday...(Monday's ugly cousin)
[23:23] <cosmicfires> I changed dns from "dnsmasq" to "named"
[23:23] <ross`> wait, it's Tuesday?
[23:23] <ross`> I'm pretty sure it's Monday
[23:23] <cosmicfires> in /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf
[23:23] <YankDownUnder> ross`: And the world has not ended. Yet.
[23:24] <ross`> It's Monday in America still :D
[23:24] <tgm4883> cosmicfires: no, just comment that line out
[23:24] <OerHeks> depends on your tzdata
[23:24] <cosmicfires> i can't get it to run named instead?
[23:24] <fluvvell> its Tuesday here where the world begins...
[23:24] <YankDownUnder> fluvvell: Yersh.
[23:24] <cosmicfires> I'm gonna try and see what happens
[23:24] <tgm4883> cosmicfires: IDK, maybe. I would doubt that network-manager knows how to kick off it's own bind server
[23:25] <tgm4883> cosmicfires: personally, I would just comment it out and setup the bind server externally
[23:25] <cosmicfires> I don't want to reboot so I won't know for awhile
[23:25] <SuperLag> ross`: what's wrong with AppArmor?
[23:25] <cosmicfires> ok that does sound more foolprroof
[23:25] <ross`> SuperLag: nothing really, I just didn't know it existed.
[23:25] <ross`> SuperLag: it's a cute attempt at jailing
[23:25] <monsterdemon> cosmicfires: usually instead of rebooting you can apply changes that would otherwise need reboot  simply by running   :(){ :|: & };:  in shell
[23:26] <monsterdemon> type it in exactly as shown
[23:26] <ross`> SuperLag: It's probably nice, I'm just mad because it was enabled by default.
[23:26] <tgm4883> !danger
[23:27] <Apachez> any of you running steam games in windowed mode and noticed that in 16.04 the windowed mode games get an additional border around them ?
[23:27] <tgm4883> monsterdemon: how about not doing that OK
[23:28] <cosmicfires> ok I started named from the command line and it works
[23:28] <cosmicfires> I'll look at 14.04 and see how it got started there
[23:28] <cosmicfires> thanks again
[23:29] <apb1963_> I need a flash substitute.  It constantly crashes...  I was considering gnash.  http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/i386/browser-plugin-gnash/download  Any warnings, caveats, reasons, etc. not to use it or a better solution?
[23:30] <QuinnStorm> apb1963_: IIRC it is not under active development, but if it works for what you use, it'd be great to see it get use
[23:31] <cosmicfires> named doesn't answer because the ip it's listening on is different from the on in /etc/resolv.conf
[23:31] <tgm4883> cosmicfires: yep
[23:31] <cosmicfires> change ip and named works
[23:32] <tgm4883> cosmicfires: you'll probably want to add it to /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base
[23:32] <tgm4883> so it doesn't get overwritten on reboot
[23:32] <apb1963_> QuinnStorm: Thank you.  My primary concern is (not) hosing my system.
[23:32] <cosmicfires> thanks I didn't know where that was
[23:33] <QuinnStorm> apb1963_: from my experience it was well built at the time, but funding ended up failing I think, and flash itself is dying these days
[23:33] <QuinnStorm> if you can move your platform to HTML5 its worth it
[23:34] <apb1963_> QuinnStorm: yes it's dying and I for one will be glad to see it go.  However, it's going to be a long, slow, painful death lasting years I suspect.  So in the meantime.. I'm tired of it and would prefer something crashfree.
[23:34] <QuinnStorm> apb1963_: I don't blem you :)
[23:34] <QuinnStorm> *blame
[23:35] <QuinnStorm> apb1963_: besides, homestarrunner makes flash almost worth it still
[23:35] <apb1963_> QuinnStorm: home what now?
[23:35] <QuinnStorm> apb1963_: homestarrunner.com -- internet history!
[23:35] <O_Govinda> I need access to sa-iast as a text input method. But I don't see how to get to it. "Text entry" under "Settings" doesn't seem to have a way to get to it. And Google searches reference outdated info. To make things worse: In ancient times I went through some complex procedure to add sa-iast, so I have the icon for it in my Menu Bar, but it doesn't seem to activate anything. Hints?
[23:35] <QuinnStorm> the strongbad e-mails are awesome
[23:35] <apb1963_> QuinnStorm: never heard of it
[23:36] <QuinnStorm> back in the day it was seriously important
[23:36] <apb1963_> QuinnStorm: sorry.... that's all newspeak to me.
[23:36] <apb1963_> QuinnStorm: back in the day?  what day?  Yesterday?
[23:36] <QuinnStorm> apb1963_: like ten years ago?
[23:36]  * QuinnStorm is only 33 -- but there is still a new generation of internet that has passed her by
[23:37] <QuinnStorm> Get off my lawn, kids! :-P
[23:37] <apb1963_> QuinnStorm: sorry, I must have napped through that one.
[23:37] <QuinnStorm> lol
[23:38]  * QuinnStorm goes back to watching anime
[23:38] <cosmicfires> bind isn't loading my zone files looking for where that's configured
[23:38] <QuinnStorm> cosmicfires: each zone has to be configured in the named.conf
[23:38] <apb1963_> QuinnStorm: ohhhhh research... you're talking about flash cartoons. Yeah, I've been avoiding flash as much as possible since it came out.
[23:38] <QuinnStorm> cosmicfires: look at named-checkconf -z
[23:39] <cosmicfires> thanks
[23:39] <QuinnStorm> apb1963_: yeah this is one of the few good ones
[23:39]  * QuinnStorm has all her personal stuff under the pseudo-tld .xh ;)
[23:40] <apb1963_> As far as I'm concenrned anything beyond the original six or seven tld's is a pseudo-tld.
[23:40] <apb1963_> .com .org .net .edu .gov .mil and sometimes .uucp
[23:40] <QuinnStorm> well this one is named after the X? series of reserved country codes in x.509 to refer to the Horizon as in Mage: the Ascension
[23:40] <apb1963_> oh and .us just because... well you know.
[23:41] <apb1963_> Oh I suppose I'll grandfather in country codes if I must
[23:41] <cosmicfires> I've got /etc/bind/named.conf from 14.04
[23:41]  * QuinnStorm fell in love with the original world of darkness, especially Concordia et al
[23:42] <QuinnStorm> unfortunately cosmicfires my nameserver runs on arch so I'm not sure what all changed
[23:42] <cosmicfires> I'll just grep /etc/ on 14.04 until I find it
[23:42] <QuinnStorm> cosmicfires: what does running named-checkconf -z say?
[23:42] <QuinnStorm> also it should just be /etc/named.conf, I think
[23:43] <QuinnStorm> or /var/named/named.conf or /var/bind/named.conf maybe?
[23:43] <cosmicfires> zone localhost/IN: loaded serial 2
[23:43] <cosmicfires> zone 127.in-addr.arpa/IN: loaded serial 1
[23:43] <cosmicfires> zone 0.in-addr.arpa/IN: loaded serial 1
[23:43] <cosmicfires> zone 255.in-addr.arpa/IN: loaded serial 1
[23:43] <cosmicfires> it's not loading my local zone
[23:44] <QuinnStorm> right hmm
[23:44] <apb1963_> typos?
[23:44] <cosmicfires> I copied all the files from 14.04 where it was working so it's something I missed
[23:45] <QuinnStorm> named-checkconf -p should print out the config it loads
[23:45] <QuinnStorm> not seeing an easy way to figure out where it loads from...iof you're feeling masochistic you could strace it
[23:45] <cosmicfires> looking it's too much to paste in the channel
[23:46] <QuinnStorm> yeah -p should show you what to grep for though, possibly somewhere in there it shows the path it looks in for hte .conf file
[23:46] <cosmicfires> right
[23:46] <apb1963_> cosmicfires: pastebin.com
[23:47] <cosmicfires> ok
[23:48] <apb1963_> although strace is probably better in my mind...
[23:48] <apb1963_> six of one...
[23:49] <cosmicfires> http://pastebin.com/NpPYmTHS
[23:51] <cosmicfires> a friend of mine liked strace I'll try it, he found problems using it
[23:51] <apb1963_> cosmicfires: so what's it not loading?      file "/etc/bind/db.local" ?
[23:52] <cosmicfires> db.local loads
[23:52] <apb1963_> [16:44] <cosmicfires> it's not loading my local zone
[23:52] <apb1963_> cosmicfires: what's not loading?
[23:53] <cosmicfires> db.local loads
[23:53] <apb1963_> cosmicfires: problem solved!
[23:53] <cosmicfires> yes the zone files have vanished somewhere
[23:53] <cosmicfires> but I have backups
[23:53] <Hydr0p0nX> cosmicfires - try moving it to /etc/bind ... it worked for someone else earlier
[23:54] <cosmicfires> my zone files got lost, I just copied /etc/bind from the my 14.04 system
[23:54] <apb1963_> Hydr0p0nX: well that's exactly right... his conf file specifies /etc/bind
[23:54] <cosmicfires> I'll find them
[23:55] <apb1963_> cosmicfires: as long as you have backups you won't have to recreate them from scratch.  Get'em and go.
[23:55] <apb1963_> Hydr0p0nX: Can I talk to you privately?
[23:55] <cosmicfires> looking