| pitti | Good morning | 04:42 |
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| sarnold | good morning pitti :) sure sign that it's time to be done working, hehe | 04:42 |
| sarnold | that was a nice networking email, certainly a lot to take in in one go.. | 04:43 |
| pitti | hey sarnold | 04:45 |
| pitti | sarnold: the netplan stuff? | 04:45 |
| pitti | infinity: would you mind marking https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/wily as obsolete? | 04:58 |
| pitti | cjwatson: ^ I think that's the reason for the ddeb-retriever spam | 04:58 |
| infinity | pitti: Not yet. | 06:16 |
| infinity | pitti: I'm doing some removals first. | 06:16 |
| infinity | pitti: I'll sort it out in the morning. | 06:40 |
| pitti | infinity: thanks | 06:40 |
| Saviq | pitti, morning, I know I'm becoming a bore, but could you please have a look at autopkgtest results here https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1575 - it seems some of the runs have disappeared - the two regressions in yakkety need a restart with all-proposed | 06:55 |
| pitti | Saviq: done | 07:01 |
| Saviq | pitti, thank you, glad it doesn't take you too long - any idea why the disappearing runs? | 07:02 |
| pitti | Saviq: might still be bug 1588566 -- this keeps getting pushed down my todo list, sorry | 07:02 |
| ubottu | bug 1588566 in Auto Package Testing "autopkgtest results go missing for a long time after the test completes" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1588566 | 07:02 |
| Saviq | ack | 07:03 |
| tjaalton | did the installer create a separate /boot at some point in the history? | 07:13 |
| tjaalton | by default | 07:14 |
| pitti | with some scenarios, like lvm or encrypted root | 07:14 |
| pitti | or presumably zfs now, as AFAIK you cannot boot from that yet | 07:15 |
| tjaalton | seems to work fine :) | 07:15 |
| tjaalton | anyway, trying to "argue" with a friend who's pissed because /boot is "always" too small | 07:15 |
| tjaalton | when upgrading | 07:15 |
| pitti | because we do a bad job at removing old kernels? | 07:16 |
| tjaalton | yeah | 07:16 |
| pitti | my wife's stock 14.04 install has the same problem, for some reason the auto-removal doesn't work | 07:16 |
| pitti | so no size of /boot will ever be large enough for that, the root cause is our kernel inflation | 07:17 |
| tjaalton | right | 07:17 |
| sarnold | pitti: yeah, netplan :) very ambitious :) | 07:17 |
| tjaalton | this is a desktop machine, probably installed with the alternate-installer at some point in the history | 07:17 |
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| tjaalton | yeah, the installer gives the impression that lvm is more flexible, when in fact it causes issues like this :) | 08:38 |
| doko | xnox, please could you merge netcfg (and fix the GCC 6 build issue)? | 08:41 |
| doko | coreycb, please could you fix the python-taskflow ftbfs? | 08:55 |
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| Saviq | pitti, what do we do with missing s390x deps https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/static/britney/ticket-1575/landing-073-yakkety/excuses.html ? Mirv mentioned you discussed this with robru yesterday? | 10:18 |
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| xnox | Saviq, I thought it should be available, no? | 10:49 |
| Saviq | xnox, it's the upstart removal fallout I believe | 10:50 |
| xnox | oh, ok. yeah, cause package is available. | 10:51 |
| xnox | doko, ack | 10:51 |
| pitti | Saviq: I suppose we need to remove ubuntu-system-settings/s390x? | 11:05 |
| pitti | Saviq: err, there are no ubuntu-system-settings s390x binaries in Ubuntu | 11:07 |
| pitti | I suppose the PPA builds it for some reason | 11:07 |
| Saviq | pitti, we might need to, if there's no other way, but that will be a gift that keeps on givin'... don't we have a plan to break this dependency chain somewhere? | 11:07 |
| Saviq | pitti, probably because it doesn't have a build-dep on anything that's not on s390x any more... | 11:07 |
| rockyh | hi! | 11:08 |
| rockyh | I would like to report an apparent mismatch between some outputs in w, who and uptime commands | 11:09 |
| rockyh | this is my situation: http://paste.ubuntu.com/21877593/ | 11:09 |
| pitti | Saviq: but it also was not built in https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-073/+packages on s390s | 11:09 |
| pitti | Saviq: I think yesterday's problem was that there was some stale s390x binary in some PPA; robru cleaned it up for a different case | 11:09 |
| rockyh | both w and uptime indicate 5 users; but w lists just 2 users | 11:09 |
| rockyh | and who does the same | 11:09 |
| Saviq | pitti, looks built https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-073/+sourcepub/6764432/+listing-archive-extra ? | 11:09 |
| pitti | not sure what exactly he did | 11:10 |
| rockyh | (my system is Xubuntu 14.04) | 11:10 |
| rockyh | (the commands give the same results when launched with or without sudo) | 11:10 |
| pitti | Saviq: argh yes, I looked at the vivid build, sorry | 11:10 |
| Saviq | pitti, so yeah, if it's not in yakkety, can you please remove the PPA build for s390x and I'll work to add a B-D to ubuntu-system-settings to prevent it from building on s390x | 11:11 |
| pitti | Saviq: done | 11:14 |
| Saviq | pitti, thanks | 11:14 |
| pitti | I retried unity8 against all of -proposed in ubuntu several times, doesn't help | 11:16 |
| pitti | the qmlui tests keep being broken | 11:16 |
| Laney | pitti: that is apparently https://launchpad.net/bugs/1607686 | 11:26 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1607686 in unity8 (Ubuntu) "testWizard and testShellWithPin crashes on yakkety-proposed with Qt 5.6.1" [High,In progress] | 11:26 |
| pitti | Laney: ah, thanks | 11:27 |
| Mirv | pitti: yep unity8 should be fixed soon, then I'd just need a word from Kubuntu people that they are ok overriding their remaining failures (functionally no-one has complained about anything, even though people are running it) | 11:29 |
| Mirv | it'd be nice to get forward with the proposed migration | 11:30 |
| coreycb | doko, sure I'll take a look | 11:41 |
| coreycb | doko, I'm not seeing a python-taskflow ftbfs. did you mean python-eventlet? | 11:51 |
| doko | coreycb, http://people.ubuntuwire.org/~wgrant/rebuild-ftbfs-test/test-rebuild-20160705-gcc6-yakkety.html | 11:51 |
| coreycb | doko, gotcha, thanks | 11:52 |
| doko | coreycb, but let me retry ... | 11:52 |
| coreycb | doko, I just hit the same errors on amd64. I'll work on fixing that up. | 11:54 |
| sveinse | Is this the spot to ask packaing questions? I'm trying to package a cmake based library. However dpkg-gensymbols complains about new symbols appearing, such as "_ZNSt7__cxx1115basic_stringbufIcSt11char_traitsIcESaIcEED0Ev@Base 2.1.2". I suppose there is a dep missing, and I tried googling it, but without any results. Is this known to anyone here? | 12:05 |
| rbasak | sveinse: see dpkg-gensymbols. | 12:09 |
| sveinse | rbasak: Yes. I have no clue thou if I can simply add it to the debian/*.symbols file without any side effects. Should I? | 12:26 |
| jbicha | pitti: update_excuses stopped updating again | 12:30 |
| rockyh | sorry if before I wrote in the middle of another discussion. Now I retry to expose my problem | 12:57 |
| rockyh | I am running a Xubuntu 14.04 system. I found some mismatches between the number of "users" printed in the output of "uptime" and the *actual* number of users locally connected to the system | 12:57 |
| rockyh | here I pasted the outputs I got: http://paste.ubuntu.com/21877593/ | 12:58 |
| rockyh | as you can see, both w and uptime indicate that 5 users are connected, but both w and who show just 2 users | 12:58 |
| rockyh | and there are actually 2 users: one who made a login from the GUI, and one from ssh | 12:59 |
| rockyh | I didn't use nor screen neither tmux | 12:59 |
| rockyh | thanks to the help of users in the #ubuntu channel, Ubuntu 16.04 seems to behave in a different way. So I would like to ask: why is there this mismatch? | 13:00 |
| rockyh | (I mean that probably in Ubuntu 16.04 both w and who would have correctly shown 5 user logins) | 13:01 |
| rockyh | there can be some errors in the implementation of uptime in *ubuntu 14.04? | 13:04 |
| Odd_Bloke | rockyh: This is still really a question for #ubuntu; could you re-join there and we can discuss it? | 13:12 |
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| rockyh | Odd_Bloke: they suggested me to write here | 13:32 |
| rockyh | Odd_Bloke: anyway, sure, I just re-joined #ubuntu | 13:33 |
| Laney | looks like britney is crashing | 13:46 |
| zaytsev | doko: hello, thought i would ask here instead of empty #ubuntu-toolchain -> llvm-3.8 has recently landed in trusty-updates, but it seems that openmp is not in? | 13:50 |
| zaytsev | doko: when i try to compile anything with omp.h & -fopenmp it fails, and there is no libomp-dev like in xenial present | 13:51 |
| doko | zaytsev, please ask tjaalton about llvm in trusty | 13:52 |
| zaytsev | doko: thank you! tjaalton ^^^ any comments? thanks! | 13:53 |
| zaytsev | tjaalton: i see in rules you left the following in - --with-clang-default-openmp-runtime=libomp - but libomp hasn't been backported / nowhere to be found :-/ | 13:56 |
| tjaalton | zaytsev: ok, need to drop that then | 14:01 |
| Laney | pitti: did you change anything in britney today? | 14:01 |
| zaytsev | tjaalton: means we ain't gonna get omp? fair enough... i'll turn off omp for llvm on our trusty boxes then. | 14:03 |
| tjaalton | zaytsev: it's backported only for hwe lts stack (mesa) | 14:04 |
| zaytsev | tjaalton: sure, i understand. still.. do you think maybe hadcoding libgomp as a default runtime could work? | 14:09 |
| tjaalton | no idea | 14:10 |
| LocutusOfBorg | oh britney, why you so sad? | 14:11 |
| mterry | Laney, I may have a hack for unity-greeter's prompt box. Doesn't seem to work for the session chooser, but looking at that next | 14:17 |
| Laney | mterry: !!!! | 14:17 |
| Laney | hacks are good at this stage | 14:18 |
| mterry | Laney, it basically sets the prompt box's "resize_mode", which is a deprecated value. And if that deprecated value is set, gtk skips the new resize logic patch you linked | 14:19 |
| Laney | "might introduce obscure bugs if used" | 14:19 |
| Laney | haha | 14:19 |
| Laney | so you have to queue a resize yourself manually or something? | 14:20 |
| mterry | Laney, no... I'm settingn the resize_mode to "immediate" and it seems to work without other changes | 14:23 |
| mterry | Laney, one line hack so far -- but session chooser may be another thing | 14:23 |
| pitti | Laney, jbicha: eek, thanks for pointing out; fixed | 14:42 |
| pitti | Laney: yes, I did an upstream update to fix the missing architecture build excuses in the HTML | 14:43 |
| Laney | pitti: I already fixed it | 14:46 |
| Laney | hopefully | 14:46 |
| Laney | it's copying stuff now | 14:46 |
| Laney | oh, you force pushed over that | 14:46 |
| pitti | Laney: sorry, mid-air collision | 14:46 |
| Laney | it wasn't mid air - that was pushed and already running | 14:47 |
| pitti | I fixed the iteration over block-bugs | 14:47 |
| Laney | same | 14:47 |
| Laney | oh well | 14:47 |
| pitti | it's the one thing we don't test, as we don't have a mock for Launchpad -- I guess it's time to write one | 14:47 |
| Laney | suggest pull before push next time | 14:47 |
| pitti | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html just updated | 14:48 |
| pitti | Laney: yeah, sorry, that was too quick | 14:48 |
| Laney | pitti: you can just supply a Blocks file for testing? | 14:49 |
| Laney | pitti: also, can you make the runner script run git reset -q please? | 14:49 |
| Laney | ubuntu-archive's mailbox is getting spammed :) | 14:49 |
| pitti | sure | 14:49 |
| Laney | would do it, but EPERM | 14:49 |
| pitti | Laney: done | 14:53 |
| Laney | danke! | 14:54 |
| Laney | mterry: I filed bug #1608908 earler, btw | 14:56 |
| ubottu | bug 1608908 in unity-greeter (Ubuntu) "Some UI elements are invisible with GTK 3.20" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1608908 | 14:56 |
| Laney | nothing new in there, but a place to hang your fixes | 14:56 |
| Laney | :) | 14:56 |
| mterry | k | 14:56 |
| ricotz | doko, hi, please take a look at the patch changes https://paste.debian.net/plain/786589 | 15:06 |
| pitti | Laney: I did a round of cleaning up on all the armhf and s390x boxes, and refreshed the armhf lxd ones as well; should hopefully hold up until end of next week :) | 15:08 |
| pitti | Laney: i. e. on armhf lxc sometimes leaks containers, or lxc-start/lxc-stop gets stuck etc., but it's ok to pile up a few of those | 15:09 |
| semiosis | infinity: hello & good morning! any movement on bug 1605795 since we last spoke? just checking in :) | 15:14 |
| ubottu | bug 1605795 in livecd-rootfs (Ubuntu) "[SRU] livecd-rootfs ubuntu-cpc vagrant image builder" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1605795 | 15:14 |
| semiosis | Odd_Bloke: ^^ | 15:14 |
| Laney | pitti: ah, nice - how do you see the lxd stuff? | 15:17 |
| Laney | I'm on the controller | 15:17 |
| * Laney hasn't used that before | 15:17 | |
| pitti | Laney: it's autopkgtest-lxd-worker/0 | 15:29 |
| pitti | Laney: instead of cloud-worker | 15:29 |
| Laney | pitti: you just kill the workers in the same way? | 15:30 |
| pitti | Laney: yes, other than that they use a remote lxd instead of ssh they are the same | 15:31 |
| Laney | ok | 15:31 |
| Laney | I thought you were saying you went a poked lxd directly | 15:31 |
| pitti | check "lxc remote list" and e. g. "lxc list lxd-armhf-236: | 15:31 |
| pitti | Laney: the remotes are still horribly brittle though, so I don't actually expect this to get much work done | 15:33 |
| pitti | Laney: so this is still an experiment | 15:33 |
| Laney | but you still have the static lxc ones, so that should be okay | 15:33 |
| pitti | right | 15:35 |
| * pitti waves good bye, holiday o'clock -- see you all in two weeks! | 15:42 | |
| Laney | see you pitti, have fun! | 15:43 |
| pitti | thanks! | 15:43 |
| * pitti disconnects from the hive, argh | 15:43 | |
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| slangasek | infinity, kees, stgraber: TB meeting? | 16:00 |
| stgraber | slangasek: thanks for the reminder | 16:00 |
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| infinity | slangasek: Ungh. A little timezone challenged this morning. | 16:42 |
| mterry | Laney, so... I have a fix for the prompt & the session list. But after going into the session list and back out again, there is a tiny visual glitch when switching between users. I'm inclined to not care about that. Haven't had luck fixing it yet. Might just push as-is, especially if gtk3.20 is about to land | 17:18 |
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| Laney | mterry: That's fine, it sounds small enough to deal with later if necessary | 20:18 |
| Laney | thanks a bunch for figuring it out | 20:18 |
| mterry | Laney, uploaded in -proposed already | 20:19 |
| mterry | you're welcome! didn't want people to yell at me for a broken unity-greeter :P | 20:19 |
| Laney | GTK's blocked on an MIR and one or two other uploads anyway, but yeah :) | 20:20 |
| mterry | working on that MIR right now | 20:21 |
| * Laney remembers to subscribe the team | 20:22 | |
| Laney | I unsubscribed it when I un-MIRed | 20:22 |
| jbicha | Laney: did you see that vte is stuck in proposed because pcre2 is in universe? | 20:24 |
| jbicha | Laney: but it looks like the dependency isn't even used now https://git.gnome.org/browse/vte/commit/?h=vte-0-44&id=ce94be | 20:24 |
| Laney | jbicha: nope | 20:25 |
| jbicha | yeah, it builds fine without pcre2 | 20:30 |
| Laney | I know, it's just new API | 20:30 |
| Laney | need to turn it off in gnome-terminal too | 20:31 |
| jbicha | Laney: could you do a no-change rebuild of webkit2gtk for gtk 3.20? | 20:36 |
| Laney | it's on the list | 20:37 |
| Laney | guess I could do it now though | 20:38 |
| Laney | jbicha: I did it | 20:42 |
| Laney | now before you give me any additional work, goodnight! | 20:42 |
| Laney | :) | 20:42 |
| jbicha | Laney: see ya :) | 20:43 |
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