[02:41] <Feral_Mutt> Hello all. I know this question has been asked 100 times. What free audio mixers are in the ubuntu repos that can be used for commercial use?
[02:44] <Feral_Mutt> I have looked at a few on search engines but cannot find expressed consent in the license.
[02:46] <Feral_Mutt> Like there is a website that claims audacity is free for non-commercial use but I cant find that part in what I think is their published license.
[02:52] <Feral_Mutt> does anyone know a better irc to ask this question?
[03:06] <Feral_Mutt> or a link to any audio licensing documentation?
[03:08] <Feral_Mutt> can someone say hi to me?
[03:26] <krytarik> Feral_Mutt: Hi.  And looks like you need to learn more about open source licenses in general.
[03:30] <Feral_Mutt> it definitely seems so btw thank you for letting me know that thie names on the side arent there for show. I understand I am a newb to this and I fully understand that I could just use any of this stuff for commercial use like half the people out there. But one thing i do understand is that Some opensource licensing does not allow for commercial use and some does (like the linux kernel although the
[03:30] <Feral_Mutt> linux kernel must have a submission of any changes before reproduction and distribution but overall I can sell an unchanged linux kernel if I could or wanted to)
[03:32] <Feral_Mutt> also I can mix the music from http://dig.ccmixter.org/free and distribute it for commercial use
[03:33] <Feral_Mutt> as long as the ahem mixer allows for commercial use
[03:35] <Feral_Mutt> you see I read quite a bit about opensource licensing in general but I would like to know about a specific music mixer in ubuntu ahem cough cough like from maybe the studio version of ubuntu which I thought someone might be knowledgable about ahemm here
[03:36] <Feral_Mutt> orcould at least be generous enough to point me to some documentation
[03:37] <krytarik> Feral_Mutt: The used license is always specified along with the software.
[03:37] <Feral_Mutt> i see
[03:38] <Feral_Mutt> well I guess I have a couple days of reading and sifting through programs ahead of me
[03:50] <Feral_Mutt> a very limited thanks all (well just krytarik) yall keep up the l33t h@xx0ring. really keeping up the community!
[05:55] <studio-user801> hola
[05:55] <studio-user801> que mas
[05:55] <studio-user801> como hago para
[05:56] <studio-user801> trabajar bien el studi
[05:56] <studio-user801> studio
[17:44] <studio-user546> hello, I'm having troubles starting jack using my usb sound card. Jack starts just fine when using the internal audio card, however it's broken so I can't really use it. When selecting the external one in qjackctl I get the following messages in the message window: http://paste.ubuntu.com/21918756/ Can anybody help me?
[17:48] <zequence> studio-user546: Did you really paste the link to your paste, so to speak. I'm not seeing the entire output from IRC right now
[17:50] <studio-user546> zequence: i pasted a link to paste.ubuntu.com
[17:50] <OvenWerks> http://paste.ubuntu.com/21918756/
[17:52] <zequence> OvenWerks: Thanks.
[17:52] <zequence> That's a lot of output.
[17:55] <studio-user546> Since I was trying to troubleshoot on my own, I enabled verbose output. This is the non-verbose version http://paste.ubuntu.com/21920229/
[17:56] <zequence> studio-user546: It doesn
[17:56] <zequence> tSorry
[17:56] <zequence> studio-user546: It looks like your device should be starable
[17:56] <zequence> studio-user546: But, there are a few reasons why it might not have
[17:57] <zequence> So, first, let me ask you. Have you tried rebooting, and the starting jack - the first thing you do?
[17:57] <studio-user546> that's what I did upon the first boot
[17:58] <studio-user546> I later tried to kill pulseaudio and then start jack and, later, running qjackctl through pasuspender - same results every time
[17:59] <zequence> studio-user546: No added PPA's, or changes to system configurations (which would require root access)?
[17:59] <studio-user546> No changes at all. I just installed the latest ubuntu studio
[17:59] <OvenWerks> it looks like ALSA is not behaving.
[18:00] <OvenWerks> does your audio interface work correctly with pulse?
[18:00] <studio-user546> it does
[18:00] <zequence> How many I/O?
[18:01] <studio-user546> I'm not sure I understand the question. It is a 5.1 surround card with a line in and a mic in, if that's what you mean
[18:02] <zequence> Ok. I/O means Ins and Outs.
[18:02] <zequence> That answeres my question.
[18:04] <zequence> I would guess there is some problem with the selection of Ins and Outs, and perhaps something to do with USB standards.
[18:05] <studio-user546> It seems I got it working by selecting "force 16 bit" in qjackctl. I don't even know what it's supposed to do, but jack starts fine and hydrogen seems to be able to play
[18:06] <studio-user546> I'm not sure that's acceptable. I mean, shall I consider it a workaround and look on my own for a better solution or it's somehow 'take or leave'?
[18:06] <zequence> studio-user546: USB devices are rarely supported in Linux, not beyond the USB 1.1 standard, which pretty much only enabled stereo I/O in 44.1, or maybe 44.8 kHz
[18:07] <zequence> qjackctl is not as complex in its choices as pulseaudio, when it comes to things like this
[18:08] <studio-user546> so, I'm lucky that it's working :D
[18:08] <zequence> There's only a certain amount of data you can process with that device, most probably.
[18:08] <zequence> ..because of driver issues
[18:09] <studio-user546> I see, I'll play around with ubuntu studio a bit and eventually move it to a better machine (with a decent sound card). Thanks for your help :)
[18:09] <zequence> Could be pulseaudio is able to only use stereo in and out, while qjackctl wants to use all I/O
[18:10] <zequence> Or, rather, you can choose a setting for that in pulseaudio, while in qjackctl you may not
[18:10] <studio-user546> pulse can use all the 6 channels with this card
[18:10] <zequence> Ok, well, I guess the config you found was the one that did the trick anyway.
[18:11] <zequence> Linux won't be able to use the full power of the device, unless there are drivers for it
[18:11] <zequence> It's common for USB devices
[18:12] <studio-user546> yeah, I fear so, but I guess it will be enough for the time being. Thanks a lot :D
[18:18] <zequence> studio-user546: There are only a few devices that work well on USB. A few more on Firewire, and PCI.
[21:11] <Norik> Hello
[21:12] <Norik> People
[21:12] <zequence> Norik: Moi
[21:12] <zequence> (Finnish for hello)
[21:13] <Norik> Do you speak ukraine?
[21:13] <Norik> Привіт друзі
[21:19] <zequence> He never appeared long enough for me to say no