[02:41] Hello all. I know this question has been asked 100 times. What free audio mixers are in the ubuntu repos that can be used for commercial use? [02:44] I have looked at a few on search engines but cannot find expressed consent in the license. [02:46] Like there is a website that claims audacity is free for non-commercial use but I cant find that part in what I think is their published license. [02:52] does anyone know a better irc to ask this question? [03:06] or a link to any audio licensing documentation? [03:08] can someone say hi to me? [03:26] Feral_Mutt: Hi. And looks like you need to learn more about open source licenses in general. [03:30] it definitely seems so btw thank you for letting me know that thie names on the side arent there for show. I understand I am a newb to this and I fully understand that I could just use any of this stuff for commercial use like half the people out there. But one thing i do understand is that Some opensource licensing does not allow for commercial use and some does (like the linux kernel although the [03:30] linux kernel must have a submission of any changes before reproduction and distribution but overall I can sell an unchanged linux kernel if I could or wanted to) [03:32] also I can mix the music from http://dig.ccmixter.org/free and distribute it for commercial use [03:33] as long as the ahem mixer allows for commercial use [03:35] you see I read quite a bit about opensource licensing in general but I would like to know about a specific music mixer in ubuntu ahem cough cough like from maybe the studio version of ubuntu which I thought someone might be knowledgable about ahemm here [03:36] orcould at least be generous enough to point me to some documentation [03:37] Feral_Mutt: The used license is always specified along with the software. [03:37] i see [03:38] well I guess I have a couple days of reading and sifting through programs ahead of me [03:50] a very limited thanks all (well just krytarik) yall keep up the l33t h@xx0ring. really keeping up the community! [05:55] hola [05:55] que mas [05:55] como hago para [05:56] trabajar bien el studi [05:56] studio === glorfindel is now known as Guest49066 === carlo_ is now known as Guest37403 === carlo_ is now known as Guest17628 [17:44] hello, I'm having troubles starting jack using my usb sound card. Jack starts just fine when using the internal audio card, however it's broken so I can't really use it. When selecting the external one in qjackctl I get the following messages in the message window: http://paste.ubuntu.com/21918756/ Can anybody help me? [17:48] studio-user546: Did you really paste the link to your paste, so to speak. I'm not seeing the entire output from IRC right now [17:50] zequence: i pasted a link to paste.ubuntu.com [17:50] http://paste.ubuntu.com/21918756/ [17:52] OvenWerks: Thanks. [17:52] That's a lot of output. [17:55] Since I was trying to troubleshoot on my own, I enabled verbose output. This is the non-verbose version http://paste.ubuntu.com/21920229/ [17:56] studio-user546: It doesn [17:56] tSorry [17:56] studio-user546: It looks like your device should be starable [17:56] studio-user546: But, there are a few reasons why it might not have [17:57] So, first, let me ask you. Have you tried rebooting, and the starting jack - the first thing you do? [17:57] that's what I did upon the first boot [17:58] I later tried to kill pulseaudio and then start jack and, later, running qjackctl through pasuspender - same results every time [17:59] studio-user546: No added PPA's, or changes to system configurations (which would require root access)? [17:59] No changes at all. I just installed the latest ubuntu studio [17:59] it looks like ALSA is not behaving. [18:00] does your audio interface work correctly with pulse? [18:00] it does [18:00] How many I/O? [18:01] I'm not sure I understand the question. It is a 5.1 surround card with a line in and a mic in, if that's what you mean [18:02] Ok. I/O means Ins and Outs. [18:02] That answeres my question. [18:04] I would guess there is some problem with the selection of Ins and Outs, and perhaps something to do with USB standards. [18:05] It seems I got it working by selecting "force 16 bit" in qjackctl. I don't even know what it's supposed to do, but jack starts fine and hydrogen seems to be able to play [18:06] I'm not sure that's acceptable. I mean, shall I consider it a workaround and look on my own for a better solution or it's somehow 'take or leave'? [18:06] studio-user546: USB devices are rarely supported in Linux, not beyond the USB 1.1 standard, which pretty much only enabled stereo I/O in 44.1, or maybe 44.8 kHz [18:07] qjackctl is not as complex in its choices as pulseaudio, when it comes to things like this [18:08] so, I'm lucky that it's working :D [18:08] There's only a certain amount of data you can process with that device, most probably. [18:08] ..because of driver issues [18:09] I see, I'll play around with ubuntu studio a bit and eventually move it to a better machine (with a decent sound card). Thanks for your help :) [18:09] Could be pulseaudio is able to only use stereo in and out, while qjackctl wants to use all I/O [18:10] Or, rather, you can choose a setting for that in pulseaudio, while in qjackctl you may not [18:10] pulse can use all the 6 channels with this card [18:10] Ok, well, I guess the config you found was the one that did the trick anyway. [18:11] Linux won't be able to use the full power of the device, unless there are drivers for it [18:11] It's common for USB devices [18:12] yeah, I fear so, but I guess it will be enough for the time being. Thanks a lot :D [18:18] studio-user546: There are only a few devices that work well on USB. A few more on Firewire, and PCI. [21:11] Hello [21:12] People [21:12] Norik: Moi [21:12] (Finnish for hello) [21:13] Do you speak ukraine? [21:13] Привіт друзі [21:19] He never appeared long enough for me to say no