[01:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- kenvandine, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1500 Dependency wait (yakkety/libertine). Failed to build (yakkety/ubuntu-app-launch). Needs rebuild due to new commits (yakkety/content-hub). Successfully built (vivid/apparmor-easyprof-ubuntu, vivid/content-hub, vivid/libertine, vivid/qtubuntu, vivid/qtubuntu-gles, vivid/ubuntu-app-launch, xenial/apparmor-easyprof-ubuntu, xenial/content-hub, xenial/libertine, xenial/qtubuntu, xenial/q
[01:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- kenvandine, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1500 Preparing packages
[01:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- kenvandine, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1500 Currently building (vivid/content-hub, xenial/content-hub, yakkety/content-hub). Dependency wait (yakkety/libertine). Failed to build (yakkety/ubuntu-app-launch). Successfully built (vivid/apparmor-easyprof-ubuntu, vivid/libertine, vivid/qtubuntu, vivid/qtubuntu-gles, vivid/ubuntu-app-launch, xenial/apparmor-easyprof-ubuntu, xenial/libertine, xenial/qtubuntu, xenial/qtubuntu-gles, 
[01:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- kenvandine, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1500 Currently building (yakkety/content-hub). Dependency wait (yakkety/libertine). Failed to build (yakkety/ubuntu-app-launch). Successfully built (vivid/apparmor-easyprof-ubuntu, vivid/content-hub, vivid/libertine, vivid/qtubuntu, vivid/qtubuntu-gles, vivid/ubuntu-app-launch, xenial/apparmor-easyprof-ubuntu, xenial/content-hub, xenial/libertine, xenial/qtubuntu, xenial/qtubuntu-gles, 
[05:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- timo-jyrinki, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1476 Failed to build (yakkety/bino, yakkety/marble, yakkety/okteta, yakkety/openscad, yakkety/ovito, yakkety/sleepyhead, yakkety/tulip, yakkety/vite). Needs rebuild due to burned version number (yakkety/itksnap, yakkety/sdrangelove). Successfully built (yakkety/goldencheetah, yakkety/libqglviewer, yakkety/mudlet, yakkety/qwtplot3d, yakkety/yade)
[05:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- gary-wzl77, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1732 Destination version missing from changelog (yakkety/net-cpp). Diff missing (vivid/online-accounts-api, xenial/online-accounts-api, yakkety/online-accounts-api). Failed to build (vivid/mcloud, vivid/storage-framework, xenial/mcloud, yakkety/mcloud). Successfully built (vivid/net-cpp, xenial/net-cpp, xenial/storage-framework, yakkety/storage-framework)
[05:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- timo-jyrinki, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1476 Currently building (yakkety/marble, yakkety/okteta). Failed to build (yakkety/bino, yakkety/openscad, yakkety/ovito, yakkety/sleepyhead, yakkety/tulip, yakkety/vite). Needs rebuild due to burned version number (yakkety/itksnap, yakkety/sdrangelove). Successfully built (yakkety/goldencheetah, yakkety/libqglviewer, yakkety/mudlet, yakkety/qwtplot3d, yakkety/yade)
[06:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- timo-jyrinki, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1476 Diff missing (yakkety/marble, yakkety/okteta). Failed to build (yakkety/bino, yakkety/openscad, yakkety/ovito, yakkety/sleepyhead, yakkety/tulip, yakkety/vite). Needs rebuild due to burned version number (yakkety/itksnap, yakkety/sdrangelove). Successfully built (yakkety/goldencheetah, yakkety/libqglviewer, yakkety/mudlet, yakkety/qwtplot3d, yakkety/yade)
[06:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- gary-wzl77, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1732 Preparing packages
[06:29] <Mirv> right so the icons are build - lander signoff - automated signoff - QA signoff. cool!
[06:30] <Mirv> skater is proposed pocket, lightning is ready for QA :D
[06:30]  * Mirv thanks robru for these graphical pieces of jewelry
[06:54] <jibel> is the main page much longer to render?
[06:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- gary-wzl77, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1732 Destination version missing from changelog (yakkety/net-cpp). Failed to build (vivid/mcloud, vivid/storage-framework, xenial/mcloud, yakkety/mcloud). Successfully built (vivid/net-cpp, vivid/online-accounts-api, xenial/net-cpp, xenial/online-accounts-api, xenial/storage-framework, yakkety/online-accounts-api, yakkety/storage-framework)
[06:56] <Mirv> seems normal <0.5s to me
[07:10] <jibel> it loads quickly <.5s but the rendering takes more than 1s
[07:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- timo-jyrinki, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1476 Failed to build (yakkety/bino, yakkety/openscad, yakkety/ovito, yakkety/sleepyhead, yakkety/tulip, yakkety/vite). Needs rebuild due to burned version number (yakkety/itksnap, yakkety/sdrangelove). Proposed pocket (yakkety/marble, yakkety/okteta). Successfully built (yakkety/goldencheetah, yakkety/libqglviewer, yakkety/mudlet, yakkety/qwtplot3d, yakkety/yade)
[07:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- morphis, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1663 QA Signoff: Ready
[07:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- morphis, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1620 Preparing packages
[08:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mardy, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1747 No silos available! Please ask your friendly neighborhood trainguard to free some
[08:22] <koza> trainguards, any chance to get silo? :-)
[08:22] <sil2100> uuh
[08:25] <sil2100> koza: trying, but need to find some stale silos
[08:26] <koza> sil2100, appreciated
[08:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- morphis, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1620 Preparing packages
[09:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- morphis, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1653 Abandoning ticket
[09:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- koza, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1748 Preparing packages
[09:02] <sil2100> charles: hey! Can we free up https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1473 ?
[09:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- koza, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1748 vivid/ubuntu-system-settings: Failed to add changelog message
[09:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- morphis, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1620 Currently building (vivid/ubuntu-system-settings, xenial/ubuntu-system-settings). Failed to build (yakkety/ubuntu-system-settings). Successfully built (vivid/aethercast, xenial/aethercast, yakkety/aethercast)
[09:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- alex-abreu mardy dbarth, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1727 Preparing packages
[09:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- alex-abreu mardy dbarth, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1727 vivid/ubuntu-html5-theme: debdiff failed: see log for details
[09:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- koza, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1748 Preparing packages
[09:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- koza, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1748 vivid/ubuntu-system-settings: Failed to add changelog message
[09:14] <jamesh> sil2100: did you have a chance to look at the Boost issue yesterday?  (sorry to nag, but I've got other teams blocked on this initial landing for storage-framework)
[09:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- gary-wzl77, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1732 Destination version missing from changelog (yakkety/net-cpp). Failed to build (vivid/mcloud, vivid/storage-framework, xenial/mcloud). Needs rebuild due to new commits (yakkety/mcloud). Successfully built (vivid/net-cpp, vivid/online-accounts-api, xenial/net-cpp, xenial/online-accounts-api, xenial/storage-framework, yakkety/online-accounts-api, yakkety/storage-framework)
[09:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- gary-wzl77, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1732 Preparing packages
[09:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- koza, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1748 Preparing packages
[09:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- timo-jyrinki yofel, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1713 Proposed pocket (yakkety/attica-kf5, yakkety/baloo-kf5, yakkety/bluedevil, yakkety/bluez-qt, yakkety/breeze, yakkety/breeze-gtk, yakkety/frameworkintegration, yakkety/kactivities-kf5, yakkety/kactivities-stats, yakkety/kactivitymanagerd, yakkety/karchive, yakkety/kauth, yakkety/kbookmarks, yakkety/kcmutils, yakkety/kcodecs, yakkety/kcompletion, yakkety/kconfig, yakkety/kcon
[09:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- koza, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1748 vivid/ubuntu-system-settings: Failed to add changelog message
[09:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- koza, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1748 Preparing packages
[09:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- morphis, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1620 Failed to build (yakkety/ubuntu-system-settings). Successfully built (vivid/aethercast, vivid/ubuntu-system-settings, xenial/aethercast, xenial/ubuntu-system-settings, yakkety/aethercast)
[09:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- alex-abreu mardy dbarth, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1727 Preparing packages
[09:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- gary-wzl77, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1732 Dependency wait (vivid/mcloud). Destination version missing from changelog (yakkety/net-cpp). Failed to build (vivid/storage-framework, xenial/mcloud, yakkety/mcloud). Successfully built (vivid/net-cpp, vivid/online-accounts-api, xenial/net-cpp, xenial/online-accounts-api, xenial/storage-framework, yakkety/online-accounts-api, yakkety/storage-framework)
[09:46] <Mirv> now just waiting for silo 73..
[09:49] <Saviq> rvr, no pressure ↑
[09:49] <rvr> :)
[09:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- koza, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1748 Destination version missing from changelog
[09:51] <Mirv> heh
[09:52] <Mirv> we got the KDE overrides (well except one I now notice, I'll try rerunning it once more but there seems to be existing s390x bug about it)
[09:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- gary-wzl77, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1732 Destination version missing from changelog (yakkety/net-cpp). Failed to build (vivid/mcloud, vivid/storage-framework, xenial/mcloud). Needs rebuild due to new commits (yakkety/mcloud). Successfully built (vivid/net-cpp, vivid/online-accounts-api, xenial/net-cpp, xenial/online-accounts-api, xenial/storage-framework, yakkety/online-accounts-api, yakkety/storage-framework)
[09:57] <sil2100> jamesh: I took a look and had a talk about it with slangasek - we didn't see any obvious issues, so we'll most likely just prep a silo for the boost backport
[09:58] <jamesh> sil2100: would the package I put together in the PPA I mentioned in the email do?
[09:58] <jamesh> sil2100: if so, you could probably just do a source package copy into our existing silo
[10:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- alex-abreu mardy dbarth, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1727 Successfully built
[10:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- timo-jyrinki jgdx, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1704 Merging to trunk
[10:10] <sil2100> jamesh: which silo is that?
[10:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- gary-wzl77, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1732 Preparing packages
[10:11] <Mirv> koza: now I freed up one silo
[10:12] <jamesh> sil2100: https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-003
[10:13] <sil2100> Saviq: I'm now doing the seed changes you requested (eh, what a delay) - is the indicator-keyboard addition approved by Pat and the product team etc.? I poked him last week but didn't get an answer
[10:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- gary-wzl77, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1732 Dependency wait (vivid/mcloud). Destination version missing from changelog (yakkety/net-cpp). Failed to build (vivid/storage-framework). Successfully built (vivid/net-cpp, vivid/online-accounts-api, xenial/mcloud, xenial/net-cpp, xenial/online-accounts-api, xenial/storage-framework, yakkety/mcloud, yakkety/online-accounts-api, yakkety/storage-framework)
[10:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- timo-jyrinki, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/810 Failed to build (xenial/qscintilla2). Successfully built (xenial/akonadi, xenial/analitza, xenial/appmenu-qt5, xenial/calibre, xenial/ciborium, xenial/fcitx-qt5, xenial/frameworkintegration, xenial/gammaray, xenial/gcin, xenial/gsettings-qt, xenial/hime, xenial/kdeclarative, xenial/kwin, xenial/libqtxdg, xenial/lxqt-qtplugin, xenial/maliit-framework, xenial/musescore, xenial/plasm
[10:39] <sil2100> Saviq: so counting it up, adding indicator-keyboard + all its dependencies would add 770 KB of stuff to our images
[10:39] <sil2100> We could live with that
[10:40] <sil2100> Saviq: anyway, not waiting for your approval, I assume you discussed this with the PT and that it's all good, if not then I'll drop all the blame at you
[10:40] <sil2100> ;D
[10:49] <koza> Mirv, thanks and I got lucky earlier :)
[10:55] <Saviq> sil2100, yeah I take the blame
[10:56] <sil2100> Saviq: will upload the updated meta parts to the silo for now, but the seed change is in bzr already - any ETA for the silo to land?
[10:57] <Saviq> sil2100, it's under QA right now
[10:57] <Saviq> so should land today
[10:57] <Saviq> sil2100, note it's silo 73 now
[10:57] <Mirv> silo 73 \o/
[10:57] <sil2100> Ok, so maybe hm, not to cause confusion, I'll just leave the branches here and release it to the overlay once this lands
[10:57] <Mirv> the world saver silo
[10:58] <Saviq> sil2100, yeah, that works, too
[10:58] <sil2100> Since pushing it to the silo could invalidate it from the automated test POV
[11:01] <Saviq> not that it's valid from that POV right now ;P
[11:01] <Saviq> but yeah
[11:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tvoss ssweeny, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1745 Preparing packages
[11:25] <jgdx> Saviq, hey, what are the chances of getting 73 landed today you think?
[11:25] <jgdx> we have to bribe rvr huh?
[11:25] <Saviq> jgdx, it's in rvr's hands :)
[11:25] <jgdx> :)
[11:27] <rvr> jgdx: Saviq: Hope to finish today :)
[11:27] <jgdx> \o/
[11:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- timo-jyrinki, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/810 Diff missing (xenial/sip4). Failed to build (xenial/qscintilla2). Successfully built (xenial/akonadi, xenial/analitza, xenial/appmenu-qt5, xenial/calibre, xenial/ciborium, xenial/fcitx-qt5, xenial/frameworkintegration, xenial/gammaray, xenial/gcin, xenial/gsettings-qt, xenial/hime, xenial/kdeclarative, xenial/kwin, xenial/libqtxdg, xenial/lxqt-qtplugin, xenial/maliit-framework, xe
[11:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- koza, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1748 Preparing packages
[11:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- kdub, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1654 Preparing packages
[11:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- awe, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1730 QA Signoff: Approved
[11:53] <jhodapp> sil2100, hey, what's the latest on testing the emulator networking fix from awe?
[11:53] <jhodapp> testing/landing
[11:57] <jibel> jhodapp, approved 5 minutes ago
[11:57] <jibel> someone must publish it now
[11:57] <jhodapp> jibel, awesome thanks
[11:59]  * Mirv can be someone
[11:59] <jhodapp> thanks Mirv
[12:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- renatofilho, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1643 Preparing packages
[12:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- awe, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1730 Publishing
[12:03] <jgdx> robru, +1 on the new ui. There's some tabular data without headers there though ;)
[12:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jgdx, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1526 Preparing packages
[12:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tvoss ssweeny, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1745 Failed to build (vivid/location-service). Successfully built (xenial/location-service, yakkety/location-service)
[12:08] <rvr> jgdx: On the phone, the keyboard indicator appears with a gear and without a proper name, just "indicator-keyboard". Only after I have added more keyboards it displays the selected one.
[12:08] <rvr> jgdx: And when there are two or more layouts, the indicator is not shown in the menu bar.
[12:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tvoss, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1740 QA Signoff: Approved
[12:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mardy, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1747 Abandoning ticket
[12:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- koza, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1748 Currently building (xenial/ubuntu-system-settings). Failed to build (yakkety/ubuntu-system-settings). Uploading build (vivid/ubuntu-system-settings)
[12:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- awe, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1730 Release pocket
[12:12] <jgdx> rvr, ltinkl should be involved in that discussion, my name is on that ticket because I want credit is all
[12:12] <rvr> jgdx: :D
[12:12] <rvr> ltinkl: ^
[12:12] <jgdx> :p and if there's anything in USS I can help with, but don't know much about the indicator…
[12:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tvoss, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1740 QA Signoff: Ready
[12:14] <ltinkl> rvr, the gear only is displayed when indicator-keyboard is not running
[12:16] <ltinkl> rvr, start indicator-keyboard
[12:16] <ltinkl> rvr, from a terminal
[12:17] <ltinkl> rvr, it could happen if you installed the silo and after the reboot, you installed indicator-keyboard; it just doesn't get started automatically, should be fine after a reboot
[12:18] <ltinkl> Saviq, did we seed indicator-keyboard into the image, or after the silo has been approved?
[12:18] <Saviq> ltinkl, sil2100's taking care of that - after the silo lands
[12:18] <rvr> ltinkl: I rebooted and the indicator still displayed the gear
[12:19] <ltinkl> rvr, ok so, is it running? can I have a screenshot?
[12:19] <rvr> ltinkl: So it wasn't running...
[12:19] <Saviq> ltinkl, I think maybe the indicator shows the gear because there's no layouts selected?
[12:19] <ltinkl> rvr, Saviq, or the icons missing... yeah, if there's no layout, it should be hidden when collapsed (as per design)
[12:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tvoss, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1740 QA Signoff: Approved
[12:20] <Saviq> rvr, oh it wasn't running? that'd be weird, it has the right "start on" upstart bit :S
[12:21] <rvr> Saviq: I don't know
[12:22] <ltinkl> rvr, so after you start it manually, it's correct?
[12:22] <rvr> Now I reboot, and the indicator displays the language
[12:22] <ltinkl> rvr, good yeah, that's how it should work
[12:22] <rvr> So I think the problem is the one that Saviq said: there was no selected layout
[12:23] <ltinkl> rvr, did it display the gear icon in the default (collapsed) panel state, or only when expanded?
[12:25] <rvr> ltinkl: The only way I see the indicator keyboard is when I expand the menu bar
[12:25] <rvr> The icon doesn't show on the top
[12:25] <ltinkl> rvr, how many layouts you have atm?
[12:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- renatofilho, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1643 Successfully built
[12:25] <rvr> Right now one
[12:25] <rvr> But I added more
[12:25] <ltinkl> rvr, if just one, that's correct; design wants to show the icon only when > 1
[12:25] <rvr> I have two now
[12:26] <ltinkl> ok, it should get visible by default now
[12:26] <rvr> Let me upload the screenshots
[12:28] <rvr> ltinkl: https://trello.com/c/ybylMjix/3475-1575-ubuntu-landing-073-unity8-jgdx-ltinkl
[12:29] <Saviq> ltinkl, rvr, isn't it only shown when there's an external keyboard connected?
[12:29] <Saviq> we really shouldn't show the whole name of the layout in there, either...
[12:29] <rvr> I have a Bluetooth keyboard connected
[12:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- koza, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1748 Failed to build (yakkety/ubuntu-system-settings). Successfully built (vivid/ubuntu-system-settings, xenial/ubuntu-system-settings)
[12:30] <ltinkl> Saviq, rvr: yeah so the rule is: the indicator is shown only when external keyboard is connected and layouts > 1
[12:30] <rvr> ltinkl: So, it should show up already
[12:30] <Saviq> sounds like it should, yeah
[12:31] <ltinkl> rvr, so both screenshots in the trello baord are taken in the same situation?
[12:31] <rvr> Yes
[12:32] <ltinkl> hmm
[12:33] <ltinkl> rvr, is your keyboard active atm? can you type somewhere using it?
[12:33] <rvr> ltinkl: Oh, that was it!
[12:33] <rvr> It wasn't active
[12:33] <ltinkl> rvr, yeah, thought so :)
[12:33] <rvr> Now the indicator appeared
[12:33] <rvr> Wee
[12:34] <rvr> ltinkl: Ok, so the remaining issue is the gear when no layout has been selected
[12:34] <ltinkl> rvr, yeah it's those 2 conditions
[12:34] <rvr> ltinkl: I'm going to reflash the phone to reproduce it
[12:34] <ltinkl> rvr, do you have a screenshot with this?
[12:34] <rvr> Nope
[12:35] <ltinkl> rvr, but it really shouldn't be shown if there's no layout - what it means is that indicator-keyboard is not running; best to reproduce in a clear state, that is installing the silo, installing indicator-keyboard and then reboot
[12:36] <rvr> Yeah, that's what I'm going to do
[12:36] <ltinkl> rvr, it then should get auto-started
[12:36] <ltinkl> rvr, great, thanks!
[12:36] <Saviq> ltinkl, "shouldn't be shown" - but what if you pull down the indicators, it will show up there, no?
[12:38] <ltinkl> Saviq, yea
[12:38] <Saviq> ltinkl, that said, are we not setting a default keyboard layout based on language in the wizard?
[12:39] <ltinkl> Saviq, yeah in a different branch, not in this silo
[12:39] <Saviq> ah though we were doing this already
[12:39] <Saviq> +t
[12:39] <ltinkl> Saviq, well we give the user the possibility to do so
[12:40] <Saviq> ltinkl, yeah, but were we not defaulting to something already based on the language selected?
[12:40] <Saviq> ah we do this for the OSK
[12:40] <Saviq> we should do the same for external
[12:40] <ltinkl> Saviq, nope but imo we could?
[12:41] <ltinkl> Saviq, the problem here is that, unlike OSK, there's no direct relation between language and kbd layout
[12:41] <Saviq> ltinkl, not sure it's actually that much different
[12:41] <ltinkl> Saviq, take German, you can have a Swiss layout, Austrian layout or German layout (not counting the different variants)
[12:41] <Saviq> we're enabling like 3 layouts in the OSK for Chinese, aren't we
[12:42] <Saviq> ltinkl, sure, I'd say it's the same problem with the OSK, no?
[12:42] <ltinkl> Saviq, for the OSK, there's always one layout only for every language
[12:43] <ltinkl> Saviq, also the naming is unpredictable, for Czech language ("cs"), the kbd layout is called "cz"
[12:43] <ltinkl> *facepalm*
[12:43] <ltinkl> Saviq, same for Chinese and other languages
[12:44] <Saviq> ltinkl, yeah I know, we'd need a language → layouts map, not impossible
[12:44] <ltinkl> Saviq, https://github.com/mike-fabian/langtable (Fedora uses that for the installer btw)
[12:44] <Saviq> ltinkl, see ;)
[12:44] <Saviq> that's all we need
[12:45] <Saviq> anyway, problem at hand - what does the indicator display on first boot
[12:45] <ltinkl> Saviq, yeah I'm not saying it's impossible ;)
[12:46]  * ltinkl grabs the phone
[12:47] <jgdx> robru, but not sure I agree with the css for .olive::before "⚒ "—what does that mean? :p It's mining data?
[12:48] <jgdx> robru, or launchpad's wonderful https://launchpad.net/@@/processing
[12:48] <ltinkl> jgdx, building? :)
[12:48] <jgdx> ltinkl, seems like a hammer and pick to me :P
[12:48] <Saviq> ltinkl, rvr, confirmed - cog when empty https://imgur.com/a/Uhndm
[12:49] <Saviq> http://emojipedia.org/hammer-and-pick/
[12:49] <Saviq> ltinkl, rvr, but only visible after expanding
[12:49] <rvr> Saviq: Yeah, that's what I got
[12:50] <ltinkl> Saviq, rvr: right so yeah... would you be ok with a followup patch, we need to set some fallback icon in this case, as we discussed with Saviq the other day
[12:51] <rvr> ltinkl: Would it land in time for OTA13?
[12:51] <Saviq> rvr, ltinkl, yeah we could have a better icon in this case, but I wouldn't block the silo on that (as long as it's only shown when expanded)
[12:51] <ltinkl> indicator-keyboard itself needs fixing; it sets the icon based on the current layout and if there's none...
[12:51] <Saviq> rvr, ltinkl, let's not seed indicator-keyboard until that's fixed, then
[12:51] <Saviq> (and let's fix it asap)
[12:51] <ltinkl> design still wanted to show the indicator in this case, so that the user can go to settings and pick some layouts
[12:52] <rvr> It needs a proper icon and proper label, not "indicator-keyboard"
[12:52] <ltinkl> rvr, yeah that too.. the backend just doesn't set any title at all
[12:52] <Saviq> ltinkl, input-keyboard-symbolic
[12:52] <ltinkl> Saviq, yup
[12:53] <seb128> how can a system have no layout?
[12:53] <ltinkl> seb128, if you don't configure any?
[12:53] <Saviq> or you remove them
[12:53] <seb128> so what happens if you plug a keyboard and type?
[12:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- morphis, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1663 QA Signoff: N/A
[12:53] <Saviq> seb128, first install, we don't have a wizard page for external keyboard yet
[12:53] <ltinkl> seb128, Mir has only a builtin "us" keymap
[12:53] <seb128> that's a layout
[12:53] <seb128> same than on desktop then
[12:54] <Saviq> sure, but should we assume that's the case in the indicator?
[12:55]  * Saviq would be ok with AccountsService setting "us" as the default
[12:55] <Saviq> instead of assuming that is the case in the indicator
[12:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- morphis, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1663 Publish failed: goget-ubuntu-touch has merges in bad states
[12:56] <seb128> there is no way to query mir for the current layout?
[12:56] <ltinkl> seb128, in short, no :)
[12:56] <seb128> well that might need to be solved
[12:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- timo-jyrinki, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/810 Diff missing (xenial/qscintilla2, xenial/sip4). Successfully built (xenial/akonadi, xenial/analitza, xenial/appmenu-qt5, xenial/calibre, xenial/ciborium, xenial/fcitx-qt5, xenial/frameworkintegration, xenial/gammaray, xenial/gcin, xenial/gsettings-qt, xenial/hime, xenial/kdeclarative, xenial/kwin, xenial/libqtxdg, xenial/lxqt-qtplugin, xenial/maliit-framework, xenial/musescore, xe
[12:57] <Saviq> still, that would mean we'd need to query $display_server, which could, arguably, be Mir, X11 or Wayland
[12:57] <Saviq> -based
[12:57] <ltinkl> Saviq, rvr: so let me recap: we don't block the silo on this (until we seed indicator-keyboard users won't see any of this anyway), and I'll prepare a hotfix for the fallback icon and some sensible (shorter) label, ok?
[12:58] <Saviq> ltinkl, IMO yes, please add the fallback label to the per-language icon, too, in case the icon theme doesn't have it
[12:58] <ltinkl> Saviq, ack
[12:58] <Saviq> s/label/name/
[12:58] <rvr> ltinkl: Doesn't the silo include indicator-keyboard?
[12:59] <ltinkl> rvr, nope
[12:59] <ltinkl> rvr, well the change yes, but phone image doesn't have it installed by default
[13:00] <Saviq> rvr, it's not seeded on touch yet
[13:00] <rvr> Saviq: Ok
[13:00] <Saviq> and that silo won't make it appear there
[13:00] <rvr> Ack
[13:00] <rvr> Let's do that then
[13:01] <rvr> I'll check the silo without installing indicator-keyboard
[13:02] <koza> ubuntu-qa: I would like https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1748 in the QA queue. xenial/vivid green, yakkety red [known issue]
[13:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tvoss ssweeny, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1745 Preparing packages
[13:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- morphis, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1663 Successfully built
[13:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jgdx, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1526 Needs rebuild due to new commits (yakkety/ubuntu-download-manager). Successfully built (vivid/ubuntu-download-manager, vivid/ubuntu-system-settings, xenial/ubuntu-download-manager, xenial/ubuntu-system-settings, yakkety/ubuntu-system-settings)
[13:10] <jibel> koza, it failed to build on yakkety, the know issue is autopkgtest fails to run because of missing deps so it's different
[13:11] <jibel> koza, it fails on ppc https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-046/+sourcepub/6772818/+listing-archive-extra
[13:11] <koza> jibel, right and we already know this issue
[13:13] <jibel> koza, is there a bug report to track that. We cannot accept a package in the queue that fails to build on a supported arch
[13:15] <koza> jibel, i discussed this last week but I do not remember with whom
[13:16] <koza> jibel, however this was major, not only my problem but rather with uss landings
[13:16] <koza> saviq, what happened to your 'no tests on ppc' MP? is it landing?
[13:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- kdub, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1654 Successfully built
[13:16] <koza> Saviq, ^^^^^
[13:17] <koza> Saviq, like separately because I do have this branch in my other landing
[13:19] <koza> jibel, I will rebuild with no ppc tests branch https://code.launchpad.net/~saviq/ubuntu-system-settings/no-test-powerpc/+merge/301271
[13:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- koza, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1748 Preparing packages
[13:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- kdub, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1654 Preparing packages
[13:22] <jibel> koza, not ideal but well, as long as it's being tracked and worked on, fine.
[13:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mterry, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1744 Needs rebuild due to new commits (yakkety/unity8). Successfully built (vivid/unity8, xenial/unity8)
[13:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tvoss ssweeny, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1745 Currently building (vivid/location-service, yakkety/location-service). Failed to build (xenial/location-service)
[13:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- kenvandine, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1500 Dependency wait (yakkety/libertine). Failed to build (yakkety/ubuntu-app-launch). Needs rebuild due to new commits (yakkety/content-hub). Successfully built (vivid/apparmor-easyprof-ubuntu, vivid/content-hub, vivid/libertine, vivid/qtubuntu, vivid/qtubuntu-gles, vivid/ubuntu-app-launch, xenial/apparmor-easyprof-ubuntu, xenial/content-hub, xenial/libertine, xenial/qtubuntu, xenial/q
[13:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- morphis, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1663 Publishing
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[13:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mterry, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1550 Preparing packages
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[13:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tvoss ssweeny, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1745 Currently building (vivid/location-service). Failed to build (xenial/location-service). Successfully built (yakkety/location-service)
[13:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- kdub, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1654 Successfully built
[14:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- morphis, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1663 Needs rebuild due to new commits (yakkety/goget-ubuntu-touch). Release pocket (xenial/goget-ubuntu-touch)
[14:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tvoss ssweeny, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1745 Failed to build (vivid/location-service, xenial/location-service). Successfully built (yakkety/location-service)
[14:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- dobey, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1726 Preparing packages
[14:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- koza, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1748 Successfully built
[14:10] <ltinkl> rvr, https://imgur.com/a/IOqTk
[14:11] <rvr> ltinkl: Superb!
[14:11] <ltinkl> rvr, default fallback icon, shorter text as the icon subtitle
[14:11] <dobey> doh, of course, the autopkgtests aren't being run with proposed
[14:12] <rvr> That's much better
[14:12] <dobey> grrr
[14:17] <kenvandine> dobey, no idea how anyone is going to land features before feature freeze with this mess :/
[14:19] <dobey> i'm not even trying to land features
[14:19] <dobey> just bug fixes
[14:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Wellark, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1749 Preparing packages
[14:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- kenvandine, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1500 Failed to build (yakkety/ubuntu-app-launch). Needs rebuild due to new commits (yakkety/content-hub, yakkety/libertine). Successfully built (vivid/apparmor-easyprof-ubuntu, vivid/content-hub, vivid/libertine, vivid/qtubuntu, vivid/qtubuntu-gles, vivid/ubuntu-app-launch, xenial/apparmor-easyprof-ubuntu, xenial/content-hub, xenial/libertine, xenial/qtubuntu, xenial/qtubuntu-gles, xeni
[14:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jgdx, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1526 Preparing packages
[14:24] <kenvandine> dobey, yeah, but my feature i need to land requires your landing :/
[14:29] <dobey> lightning bolt!
[14:44] <Saviq> koza, in silo 73
[14:44] <Saviq> under QA, should land today
[14:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- kenvandine, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1500 Preparing packages
[14:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mterry, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1744 Successfully built
[14:47] <koza> Saviq, thanks
[14:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mterry, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1550 Preparing packages
[14:48] <koza> robru, sth bad has happened in https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1748, error -1
[14:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- gary-wzl77, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1732 Preparing packages
[14:51] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Wellark, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1749 Currently building (vivid/indicator-network). Failed to build (yakkety/indicator-network). Successfully built (xenial/indicator-network)
[14:52] <koza> robru, forget, now it works
[14:52] <robru> koza: reload? Looks fine to me
[14:54] <robru> robru: -1 is I guess "timeout talking to server" or something. The -1 is supposed to be an HTTP error number but no HTTP response came
[14:55] <koza> robru, seemed so, it is alive now
[15:02] <robru> jgdx: Saviq: I chose hammer and pick for "needs rebuild" because it looks similar to X for failure, and it requires work to fix. I'm open to suggestions. Turns out iconography is hard!
[15:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- awe, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1731 Publish failed: lxc-android-config has merges in bad states
[15:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- awe, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1731 Publishing
[15:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tvoss ssweeny, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1745 Preparing packages
[15:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- koza, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1748 Needs rebuild due to new commits (yakkety/ubuntu-system-settings). Successfully built (vivid/ubuntu-system-settings, xenial/ubuntu-system-settings)
[15:10] <robru> Mirv Haha, yeah I wasn't sure what icon to use for migration, the skier guy represents movement! Open to suggestions... Maybe an up arrow makes sense there?
[15:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Wellark, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1749 Failed to build (yakkety/indicator-network). Successfully built (vivid/indicator-network, xenial/indicator-network)
[15:11] <sil2100> http://goo.gl/ThSjvv
[15:11] <sil2100> This would be perfect ;)
[15:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mterry, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1550 Bad merges (yakkety/unity8). Currently building (vivid/ubuntu-system-settings, xenial/ubuntu-system-settings). Destination version missing from changelog (yakkety/unity-system-compositor). Failed to build (yakkety/ubuntu-system-settings). Successfully built (vivid/unity-system-compositor, vivid/unity8, xenial/unity-system-compositor, xenial/unity8)
[15:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- awe, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1731 yakkety/lxc-android-config: Failed to fetch https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-068/+files/lxc-android-config_0.230+16.10.20160728-0ubuntu1_source.changes
[15:12] <robru> Is there a Unicode for deer?
[15:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- koza, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1748 Preparing packages
[15:13] <robru> Ugh, the hammer and pick, and skier don't render on my tablet, but they do on my phone
[15:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- gary-wzl77, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1732 Dependency wait (vivid/mcloud). Destination version missing from changelog (yakkety/net-cpp). Failed to build (vivid/storage-framework, xenial/mcloud). Successfully built (vivid/net-cpp, vivid/online-accounts-api, xenial/net-cpp, xenial/online-accounts-api, xenial/storage-framework, yakkety/mcloud, yakkety/online-accounts-api, yakkety/storage-framework)
[15:22] <rvr> Saviq: jgdx: ltinkl: I found another problem. After restoring the device in System Settings, the phone reboots ok, and presents the wizard. After selecting Spanish, the phone is very very very slow. I can't do anything.
[15:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- kenvandine, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1500 Dependency wait (yakkety/libertine). Failed to build (vivid/libertine, yakkety/ubuntu-app-launch). Successfully built (vivid/apparmor-easyprof-ubuntu, vivid/content-hub, vivid/qtubuntu, vivid/qtubuntu-gles, vivid/ubuntu-app-launch, xenial/apparmor-easyprof-ubuntu, xenial/content-hub, xenial/libertine, xenial/qtubuntu, xenial/qtubuntu-gles, xenial/ubuntu-app-launch, yakkety/apparmor
[15:23] <rvr> Saviq: jgdx: ltinkl: The Wifi connection screen appears like in slow motion.
[15:23] <jgdx> rvr, the whole phone is slow?
[15:23] <rvr> jgdx: Yup
[15:24] <Saviq> must be restarting the location service :/
[15:24] <rvr> I can't adb shell to check
[15:24]  * Saviq tries to choose Spanish on krillin
[15:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jgdx, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1526 Needs rebuild due to new commits (yakkety/ubuntu-download-manager). Successfully built (vivid/ubuntu-download-manager, vivid/ubuntu-system-settings, xenial/ubuntu-download-manager, xenial/ubuntu-system-settings, yakkety/ubuntu-system-settings)
[15:30] <Saviq> rvr, ltinkl, I can confirm unity8 goes to 100% CPU after selecting a language :/
[15:30] <Saviq> not good
[15:31] <rvr> Saviq: Ok, going to check without the silo
[15:32] <Mirv> Saviq: by the way, regardless of 073, is there a downside of just asking to try for Qt & KDE migration to release pocket? we'll get u8 autopkgtest results anyway.
[15:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mterry, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1550 Bad merges (yakkety/unity8). Destination version missing from changelog (yakkety/unity-system-compositor). Failed to build (yakkety/ubuntu-system-settings). Successfully built (vivid/ubuntu-system-settings, vivid/unity-system-compositor, vivid/unity8, xenial/ubuntu-system-settings, xenial/unity-system-compositor, xenial/unity8)
[15:32] <Saviq> Mirv, no, I think it can go
[15:33] <Mirv> ok, I'll check if we can at least see about if it could happen or not
[15:33] <Mirv> there are always surprises in update_output.txt
[15:33] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- awe, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1731 Proposed pocket (yakkety/lxc-android-config). Release pocket (xenial/lxc-android-config)
[15:34] <Saviq> rvr, hmm no, it settled down after a few seconds, trying agian
[15:34] <ltinkl> Saviq, rvr: couldn't it be caused by the OSK?
[15:35] <Saviq> ltinkl, it probably could, since we're restarting *everything*
[15:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- sil2100, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1750 No packages are being considered! If you are preparing sources manually, please upload them to the PPA now
[15:39] <ltinkl> Saviq, rvr: yeah, watching top when pressing Next (after language page), I can see various indicator-* and other services spiking up (due to us restarting them)
[15:40] <Saviq> right, but they settle a few seconds later
[15:40] <Saviq> and top is very laggy
[15:40] <ltinkl> Saviq, yeah, takes like 2-3 seconds to settle
[15:40] <Saviq> and I couldn't actually see an impact of this on the wifi page
[15:40] <ltinkl> on mako
[15:40]  * Saviq wiping frieza
[15:41] <rvr> Ok, only happens with silo installed
[15:43] <Saviq> rvr, and I assume you reproduce easily?
[15:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- kenvandine, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1500 Failed to build (vivid/libertine, yakkety/ubuntu-app-launch). Needs rebuild due to new commits (yakkety/libertine). Successfully built (vivid/apparmor-easyprof-ubuntu, vivid/content-hub, vivid/qtubuntu, vivid/qtubuntu-gles, vivid/ubuntu-app-launch, xenial/apparmor-easyprof-ubuntu, xenial/content-hub, xenial/libertine, xenial/qtubuntu, xenial/qtubuntu-gles, xenial/ubuntu-app-launch,
[15:43]  * Saviq flashing frieza to compare
[15:44] <ltinkl> Saviq, rvr: crap, I can reproduce it too, when going next/back to the wifi page :/
[15:44] <Saviq> ltinkl, can you see top? does unity8 go to full CPU permanently?
[15:44] <ltinkl> Saviq, yup, even over 100%
[15:44] <Saviq> ltinkl, so https://code.launchpad.net/~lukas-kde/unity8/wizardSystemUpdate/+merge/300182 ?
[15:45] <ltinkl> Saviq, yeah, line 421 for sure
[15:45] <sil2100> ...so no silo 73 today :< ?
[15:45] <Saviq> doesn't look like it, /me pulls the new wizard page
[15:46] <Saviq> rvr, rebuilding without the most possible suspect
[15:46] <Saviq> s/possible/probable/
[15:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jgdx ltinkl, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1575 QA Signoff: Required
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[15:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jgdx ltinkl, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1575 Preparing packages
[15:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Trevinho, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1738 Preparing packages
[15:50] <rvr> Saviq: Ok
[15:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- sil2100, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1750 Failed to build
[15:51] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- kenvandine, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1500 Preparing packages
[15:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Elleo, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1628 Preparing packages
[16:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tvoss ssweeny, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1745 Failed to build (vivid/location-service). Successfully built (xenial/location-service, yakkety/location-service)
[16:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- koza, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1748 Successfully built
[16:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- awe, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1731 Release pocket
[16:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- gary-wzl77, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1732 Dependency wait (vivid/mcloud). Destination version missing from changelog (yakkety/net-cpp). Failed to build (vivid/storage-framework). Successfully built (vivid/net-cpp, vivid/online-accounts-api, xenial/mcloud, xenial/net-cpp, xenial/online-accounts-api, xenial/storage-framework, yakkety/mcloud, yakkety/online-accounts-api, yakkety/storage-framework)
[16:21] <om26er_> trainguards Hi! do I always need to provide a merge proposal for a landing request ? I have a scenario where I want to release a new release branch (lp:autopilot/1.6, currently a snapshot of lp:autopilot). What shall I do ?)
[16:21] <om26er_> (first timer here)
[16:21] <tedg> om26er_: You should need the train to do that, you can just bzr push the old branch to that target.
[16:22] <robru> om26er_: yes, for those cases you need to make an empty merge proposal
[16:22] <tedg> shouldn't need the train.
[16:22] <robru> tedg: he'll need bileto if he wants it released to distro
[16:23] <tedg> robru: But he's just talking about making the LP link.
[16:23] <tedg> If he needs to release a new package, yes.
[16:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- kenvandine, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1500 Dependency wait (yakkety/libertine). Failed to build (yakkety/ubuntu-app-launch). Successfully built (vivid/apparmor-easyprof-ubuntu, vivid/content-hub, vivid/libertine, vivid/qtubuntu, vivid/qtubuntu-gles, vivid/ubuntu-app-launch, xenial/apparmor-easyprof-ubuntu, xenial/content-hub, xenial/libertine, xenial/qtubuntu, xenial/qtubuntu-gles, xenial/ubuntu-app-launch, yakkety/apparmor
[16:23] <robru> tedg: he said "release" in his message?
[16:23] <om26er_> robru, tedg, yep, I need to make a new release.
[16:24] <tedg> Ah, okay. I misread, I thought wanted to make a new branch.
[16:24] <tedg> Make a new release branch.
[16:24] <robru> om26er_: yes, make a copy of the branch then propose it back to the main branch, it will be empty but usable by bileto
[16:41] <renatu> robru, hey, ubuntu credentials is causing problems with the autopackage on this silo: https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/static/britney/ticket-1643/landing-079-xenial/excuses.html
[16:41] <renatu> robru, any clue what is causing that?
[16:42] <robru> renatu: no idea sorry, I don't know about those packages
[16:43] <renatu> robru, why this package affect the landing off "account-plugins" ?
[16:43] <renatu> I did not change this package
[16:43] <renatu> the build works fine. only the autopackage is failing
[16:44] <robru> renatu: that's how autopkgtests work, that package depends on yours so it runs that test to ensure you don't break it
[16:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jgdx ltinkl, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1575 Successfully built
[16:45] <robru> renatu: you need to investigate the failure log and ensure the failure isn't caused by your changes.
[16:45] <renatu> robru, I only changed ui margins :D
[16:45] <renatu> robru, probably the package is already broken
[16:45] <dobey> just ask to have someone retry the test
[16:46] <robru> renatu: if the failure looks transient you can get a core dev to click retry
[16:46] <renatu> robru, ok I will retry the build
[16:46] <robru> renatu: no
[16:47] <renatu> :(
[16:47] <robru> renatu: do not rebuild a successful build
[16:47] <robru> robru: get a core dev to retry the test
[16:47] <dobey> yeah, no, you can't do it. a core dev or someone with upload rights to the package has to click retry for the autopkgtest that failed
[16:48] <renatu> ok sorry
[16:48] <robru> renatu: rebuilding is wasteful of builder resources
[16:49] <robru> kenvandine should be around ^^
[16:49] <dobey> or at lunch
[16:50] <dobey> robru: hmm, my request status is still "currently building" but it looks like it actually failed
[16:50] <dobey> robru: for https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1726
[16:51] <dobey> robru: hmm, can you click retry on https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-028/+build/10555654 please? looks like something hanged there :-/
[16:53] <robru> dobey: done.  "finished 4 minutes ago", bileto polls every 20min
[16:54] <dobey> oh
[16:59] <Saviq> rvr, jibel, silo 73 back in your hands - we've reverted the offending MP (and got a fix for it ready for next silo) - I'd argue testing can continue from where rvr left it, but your call
[17:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Trevinho, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1738 Successfully built
[17:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- kenvandine, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1500 Dependency wait (yakkety/libertine). Failed to build (yakkety/ubuntu-app-launch). Needs rebuild due to new commits (yakkety/qtubuntu). Successfully built (vivid/apparmor-easyprof-ubuntu, vivid/content-hub, vivid/libertine, vivid/qtubuntu, vivid/qtubuntu-gles, vivid/ubuntu-app-launch, xenial/apparmor-easyprof-ubuntu, xenial/content-hub, xenial/libertine, xenial/qtubuntu, xenial/qtub
[17:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- dobey, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1726 Successfully built
[17:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Elleo, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1628 Successfully built
[17:16] <Mirv> Saviq: ok I didn't get unity8 override, so we'll just wait for 73
[17:17] <Saviq> ack
[17:17] <Mirv> sil2100: robru: ^ no yakkety-proposed migration still, but maybe tomorrow is the day
[17:18] <robru> ok
[17:21] <dobey> robru: can we make britney use proposed for a silo? (ideally in general, because really i don't know how this isn't a problem more often)
[17:23] <robru> dobey: britney always uses proposed, and this cannot be changed per-ticket. http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~cupstream2distro-maintainers/bileto/trunk/view/head:/britney/fetch-indexes#L97
[17:23] <robru> dobey: I guess you mean autopkgtests, and I don't have control over that
[17:23] <dobey> yes, i mean the autopkgtests
[17:24] <robru> dobey: you'd have to talk to pitti about that
[17:24] <robru> dobey: what I *can* do is copy whatever needed package from proposed into the silo, then autopkgtests would pick it up I think?
[17:25] <robru> dobey: also I thought autopkgtests pulled in proposed if the dep wasn't satisfiable from anywhere else, so maybe review your versions in your deps
[17:25] <dobey> hrmm
[17:25] <dobey> no, it's not a direct dep
[17:25] <robru> dobey: well, if the test can't pass without it, maybe it should be a direct, versioned dep?
[17:25] <dobey> it's apparently someone deleted all the ubuntu-ui-toolkit-autopilot binaries on all arches in yakkety, but there is a new uitk in proposed, so it should work
[17:26] <dobey> it's not a problem with the debian/control, it's a problem with the archive
[17:27] <dobey> so i'm pretty certain the autopkgtests don't add proposed if the dep isn't satisfiable out of it. either it uses proposed or it doesn't. pretty sure there's no magic there
[17:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tvoss mardy, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1742 Preparing packages
[17:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- kenvandine, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1500 Dependency wait (yakkety/libertine). Failed to build (yakkety/ubuntu-app-launch). Needs rebuild due to new commits (yakkety/apparmor-easyprof-ubuntu, yakkety/qtubuntu). Successfully built (vivid/apparmor-easyprof-ubuntu, vivid/content-hub, vivid/libertine, vivid/qtubuntu, vivid/qtubuntu-gles, vivid/ubuntu-app-launch, xenial/apparmor-easyprof-ubuntu, xenial/content-hub, xenial/liber
[17:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tvoss mardy, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1742 Currently building (xenial/location-service, yakkety/location-service). Failed to build (vivid/location-service)
[17:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- kenvandine, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1500 Preparing packages
[17:45] <robru> dobey: I dunno man this discussion seems to imply that autopkgtests pull from proposed: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2015-November/003441.html
[17:45] <robru> with fancy pinning tricks
[17:47] <dobey> robru: my understanding was that for silos, proposed wasn't being used for autopkgtests
[17:49] <robru> dobey: it's not clear to me
[17:52] <Mirv> robru: dobey: silos don't use since generally it causes more trouble. right now with big proposed migration in progress however it doesn't work and you'd need archive admins to rerun yakkety silo tests with --all-proposed. pitti however is now away for two weeks.
[17:52] <Mirv> the migration is only now pending on landing silo 73, AFAIK
[17:53] <dobey> i don't see how generally it causes more trouble
[17:55] <Mirv> well it did cause, there was a long dicussion at the time. I don't remember the details now, it can be rediscussed. but even this week we have had then problems with autopkgtests on silos when all-proposed has been used, since (full) proposed often has trouble. gtk was broken one day, all of our silo tests went red.
[17:56] <dobey> i fail to see how that is a problem
[17:56] <dobey> that is exactly what autopkgtests are for
[17:56] <dobey> if we're not running autopkgtests against proposed, then we shouldn't be running autopkgtests against the development version of ubuntu.
[17:57] <dobey> because the things landing there will be blocked on autopkgtests in proposed during publishing anyway
[17:57] <dobey> so basically we're just saying "we don't care about reality for silos when landing to the in-development archive"
[18:02] <Mirv> the basic idea was that we don't want to block silo on things that the silo does not break, ie test the silo in isolation and get autopkgtest results yes/no for the fact if the silo breaks something or not
[18:03] <Mirv> it has been like that now for 6 months and we've had a lot less problems than before
[18:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- kenvandine, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1500 Dependency wait (yakkety/libertine). Failed to build (yakkety/ubuntu-app-launch). Needs rebuild due to new commits (yakkety/qtubuntu). Successfully built (vivid/apparmor-easyprof-ubuntu, vivid/content-hub, vivid/libertine, vivid/qtubuntu, vivid/qtubuntu-gles, vivid/ubuntu-app-launch, xenial/apparmor-easyprof-ubuntu, xenial/content-hub, xenial/libertine, xenial/qtubuntu, xenial/qtub
[18:03] <dobey> well i can't recall a time where there weren't problems
[18:03] <Mirv> it can be thought for example from the pov that we don't want to halt OTA bug fixes due to devel series having an unrelated problem
[18:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tvoss mardy, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1742 Failed to build (vivid/location-service). Successfully built (xenial/location-service, yakkety/location-service)
[18:04] <dobey> Mirv: then we should run against proposed anyway, and tell QA to ignore the autopkgtests results for devel series
[18:05] <dobey> having tests pass because they don't reflect current reality is not really a reasonable solution. it's a deceptive facade
[18:06] <dobey> and when stuff does break there, currently, it's a lie anyway
[18:12] <Mirv> I don't strongly agree or disagree, it's complicated. QA are interested in if the silo, in isolation, causes problems on any series.
[18:13] <Mirv> robru: anyway if someone needs the yakkety results that are not all red, someone needs to run retry-autopkgtest-regressions -s yakkety --ci-train-silo 080 --ci-train-ticket 1715 --all-proposed  on snakefruit
[18:14] <Mirv> ie if for example QA doesn't agree to ignore yakkety results completely, that's an option to get a bit better results (if nothing broken at the moment in proposed)
[18:14] <Mirv> hopefully tomorrow it will be back to normal regardless
[18:32] <robru> Mirv: thanks
[19:15] <dobey> jibel, robru: can you set https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1726 to qa ready given the autopkgtests broken on yakkety for everyone issue?
[19:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- dobey, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1726 QA Signoff: Ready
[19:22] <robru> dobey: done
[19:23] <dobey> robru: great, thanks
[19:23] <robru> dobey: you're welcome
[19:23] <dobey> now to get someone to approve it
[19:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mterry, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1744 Needs rebuild due to new commits (yakkety/unity8). Successfully built (vivid/unity8, xenial/unity8)
[19:52] <rvr> Saviq: Ok
[19:53] <dobey> alesage, ToyKeeper: around? any chance i could get one of you to fast-track test silo 28? it's all smallish bug fixes and should have no regressions, and kenvandine needs changes for another feature silo that's supposed to land for ota13
[19:55] <kenvandine> please :)
[20:04] <alesage> kenvandine, dobey no groveling please I just cleaned this dais
[20:04] <alesage> should be able to get to it so long as vrruiz doesn't disapprove
[20:04]  * kenvandine grovels
[20:05] <dobey> heh
[20:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jamesh michi, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1681 Currently building (vivid/boost1.58). Failed to build (vivid/storage-framework). Ready to build (xenial/boost1.58, yakkety/boost1.58). Successfully built (vivid/online-accounts-api, xenial/online-accounts-api, xenial/storage-framework, yakkety/online-accounts-api, yakkety/storage-framework)
[20:46] <dobey> jamesh, michi: ^^ i think you want that silo to be only yakkety+xenial really?
[20:58] <robru> dobey: well unless online accounts api also forks for vivid, then their next release would explode
[21:09] <dobey> robru: err, i didn't notice the accounts-api.
[21:10] <dobey> huh
[21:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- dobey, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1726 QA Signoff: Approved
[21:10] <robru> dobey: not sure what to think, I heard storage framework wasn't going to be used in vivid
[21:11] <dobey> yeah
[21:11] <dobey> that was my understanding
[21:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jamesh michi, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1681 Diff missing (vivid/boost1.58). Failed to build (vivid/storage-framework). Ready to build (xenial/boost1.58, yakkety/boost1.58). Successfully built (vivid/online-accounts-api, xenial/online-accounts-api, xenial/storage-framework, yakkety/online-accounts-api, yakkety/storage-framework)
[21:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jgdx ltinkl, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1575 QA Signoff: Ready
[23:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Elleo, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1628 Needs rebuild due to new commits (yakkety/ubuntu-keyboard). Successfully built (vivid/fonts-emojione, vivid/ubuntu-keyboard, xenial/fonts-emojione, xenial/ubuntu-keyboard, yakkety/fonts-emojione)
[23:14] <koza> ubuntu-qa, I would like https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1748 into QA queue. vivid/xenial is green, yakkety is red but this is known issue [not considered]
[23:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Elleo, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1628 Preparing packages
[23:18] <ToyKeeper> koza: What's the known issue with yakkety?
[23:18] <robru> ToyKeeper: s390x is on fire: https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/static/britney/ticket-1748/landing-046-yakkety/excuses.html
[23:19] <robru> ToyKeeper: something about rdeps from upstart's removal there.
[23:19] <ToyKeeper> Hmm, it's not letting me set QA to Ready.
[23:21] <ToyKeeper> Hah, and then it spilled the bowl of Cheetos.  ;P
[23:21] <koza> ToyKeeper, how come, my other landing got into QA with the same prolem :)
[23:22] <ToyKeeper> I don't think I've seen this particular feature before.  :)
[23:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mterry, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1744 Generating diffs
[23:22] <robru> ToyKeeper: the trick for forcing QA when britney failed is to put 'http://a' into the manual download field. sorry that's lame
[23:23] <koza> anyways this is sth wrong with s390x not with the change itself
[23:23] <ToyKeeper> robru: Thanks, I wasn't aware of the http://a trick, but it worked.  :)
[23:23] <ToyKeeper> koza: That should get the ticket into the queue.
[23:23] <robru> ToyKeeper: you're welcome
[23:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- koza, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1748 QA Signoff: Ready
[23:24] <koza> ToyKeeper, thanks
[23:24] <koza> much appreciated
[23:24] <ToyKeeper> When the card shows up, I'll add a note about the override.
[23:25] <koza> cool
[23:25] <koza> now I can go to sleep :)
[23:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mterry, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1744 Needs rebuild due to new commits (yakkety/unity8). Successfully built (vivid/unity8, xenial/unity8)