| hikiko | ηι | 05:35 |
|---|---|---|
| hikiko | hi | 05:35 |
| duflu | Morning hikiko | 05:50 |
| hikiko | hi duflu | 05:50 |
| duflu | It must be morning somewhere | 05:50 |
| hikiko | here :) | 05:50 |
| hikiko | 08:50:55 | 05:51 |
| duflu | I suspected as much | 05:51 |
| hikiko | haha | 05:51 |
| Trevinho | Good morning! | 07:10 |
| seb128 | good morning desktopers | 07:16 |
| seb128 | hey Trevinho | 07:16 |
| hikiko | hey seb128 Trevinho | 07:22 |
| * desrt yawns | 07:22 | |
| hikiko | and desrt :) | 07:22 |
| seb128 | hey hikiko | 07:22 |
| seb128 | hey desrt | 07:22 |
| desrt | hello hikiko and seb128 and maybe also Trevinho :) | 07:22 |
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| Laney | saulton homoj | 08:04 |
| seb128 | howdy Laney! | 08:04 |
| Laney | hey seb128 | 08:05 |
| Laney | how are you? | 08:05 |
| seb128 | good! you? | 08:05 |
| Laney | blue sky is back | 08:05 |
| seb128 | did you recover from your neck injury btw? | 08:05 |
| Laney | seems better | 08:06 |
| seb128 | it's 19°C grey and raining here :-/ | 08:06 |
| Laney | i went climbing on monday and it didn't get bad again | 08:06 |
| Laney | so fingers crossed | 08:06 |
| seb128 | great | 08:06 |
| seb128 | don't cross the fingers too much while climbing, might give you a less good grip :p | 08:06 |
| Laney | :D | 08:08 |
| Laney | seb128: can you promote https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wayland-protocols/+bug/1607753 please? | 08:59 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1607753 in wayland-protocols (Ubuntu) "[MIR] wayland-protocols" [High,Fix committed] | 08:59 |
| seb128 | Laney, done | 09:07 |
| Laney | thankssssssSSSSsssSSSssSSSss | 09:17 |
| seb128 | yw! | 09:19 |
| andyrock | morning | 09:23 |
| seb128 | hey andyrock, how are you? | 09:23 |
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| === JanC_ is now known as JanC | ||
| Laney | really good it seems! | 09:29 |
| seb128 | he's probably making some pizza with Trevinho | 09:34 |
| seb128 | italians! | 09:34 |
| seb128 | :-) | 09:34 |
| andyrock | hehehe I'm not sprinting with Trevinho anymore XD | 09:40 |
| seb128 | sad | 09:41 |
| Trevinho | Eh... Yeah.. They were good times | 09:54 |
| === hikiko|bbl is now known as hikiko | ||
| willcooke | wifi now doesnt work at all in the office for me | 11:20 |
| willcooke | seb128, same issue as I had at the hotel ^ :( | 11:20 |
| willcooke | time to change the wifi card again I think | 11:21 |
| Laney | jbicha: Want to review a gnome-session 3.20.2 package? | 11:26 |
| Laney | pwetty pwease | 11:26 |
| Laney | I'm not sure about how the wayland stuff there goes together | 11:27 |
| jbicha | Laney: ok, I had been procrastinating doing that update | 11:28 |
| Laney | jbicha: something (gnome-shell?) ends up wanting it now | 11:28 |
| Laney | pushing in 5 minutes | 11:28 |
| Laney | need to freshen the changelog | 11:28 |
| Laney | hmm | 11:36 |
| jbicha | Laney: there's some issues with ssh-agent but I don't know if newer software version fixed it https://bugs.debian.org/804703 | 11:36 |
| ubot5 | Debian bug 804703 in gnome-keyring "gnome-keyring: The race with SessionManager initialization" [Normal,Open] | 11:36 |
| jbicha | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-gnome/2016-June/004046.html | 11:36 |
| Laney | jbicha: for Ubuntu that's all in systemd now, would be worth testing for you | 11:38 |
| * Laney makes a note to update session-migration | 11:38 | |
| jbicha | hmm, ssh is working fine for me today so I dunno | 11:43 |
| Laney | jbicha: ok, pushed | 11:43 |
| jbicha | onboard doesn't do well with wayland :( | 12:04 |
| Laney | :< | 12:05 |
| jbicha | Laney: looks good, built and seems to run fine with GNOME and GNOME on Wayland | 12:17 |
| Sweet5hark | heya, all! LibreOffice 5.2.0 is out! As a snap too! | 12:21 |
| seb128 | willcooke, that's an annoying one :-/ Did you ever end up testing on a live image? | 12:23 |
| jbicha | Sweet5hark: +1 | 12:23 |
| seb128 | Sweet5hark, well done! | 12:23 |
| Laney | jbicha: nice, thanks | 13:22 |
| Laney | one of the new things in there is proper journal logging | 13:24 |
| seb128 | we might want to look a gnome-logs again this cycle! | 13:32 |
| Laney | glib got some stuff too | 13:33 |
| Laney | didn't look at it yet | 13:33 |
| seb128 | what does it change? | 13:34 |
| Laney | logging apis for the journal | 13:34 |
| seb128 | makes things listed with the name of the app that print them? | 13:34 |
| Laney | you can do structured stuff too | 13:34 |
| seb128 | because we sort of already had everything !upstartjob going to the journal it seems | 13:34 |
| seb128 | at least every time I lookd for some log I find them there already in xenial | 13:34 |
| Laney | from gnome-session? | 13:35 |
| seb128 | yes | 13:35 |
| Laney | indeed | 13:35 |
| Laney | that gets nicer with 3.20 | 13:35 |
| Laney | and then app authors can use the new apis to do it nicer still | 13:35 |
| Laney | https://developer.gnome.org/glib/2.49/glib-Message-Logging.html#g-log-structured | 13:35 |
| seb128 | ah, that has to do with the catalog thing | 13:36 |
| seb128 | I was just reading a bit about that earlier | 13:36 |
| seb128 | they added access to it in snappy's log-observer interface | 13:37 |
| seb128 | cool | 13:37 |
| * seb128 has gnome-logs snapped worked under strong confinement with that | 13:37 | |
| ximion | Laney: compiling asgen with LDC shows some interesting performance differences... | 13:47 |
| ximion | in general it looks like gdc creates much faster code (with a few exceptions where LDC beats GDC by a large margin) - the more recent druntime version of LDC apparently also reduces the memory usage a lot | 13:48 |
| ximion | all in all, annoying: you apparently can't get all the good things :P | 13:48 |
| willcooke | seb128, @ live image - yeah, same issue. Must be hardware related | 14:18 |
| seb128 | looks like it | 14:18 |
| willcooke | some odd combination of this card and whatever we use for wifi access points. Works "fine" at home | 14:20 |
| Laney | ximion: so sticking with gdc? | 14:25 |
| ximion | Laney: I am thinking about it - GDC has better optimizers, but also a terribly old standard library and runtime | 14:26 |
| ximion | I need to do proper benchmarks on this | 14:26 |
| seb128 | yeah :-/ | 14:26 |
| ximion | maybe the speed advantages and disadvantages cancel each other out ^^ | 14:26 |
| ximion | on my (more powerful) development system, I don't notice much of a difference | 14:27 |
| ximion | all effects I saw were on the slower deployment machine | 14:27 |
| ximion | Laney: what's missing for Ubuntu to use asgen? | 14:29 |
| Laney | same | 14:30 |
| Laney | langpack and translation | 14:30 |
| ximion | uh, things I don't know much about... | 14:30 |
| Laney | you know about translations | 14:30 |
| Laney | it's the same in debian | 14:30 |
| ximion | GLib has all the functions necessary to read .mo files though :) | 14:30 |
| Laney | will do it once gnome 3.20 is pushed in | 14:31 |
| ximion | great :) | 14:40 |
| ximion | I just added some code to reduce the statistics bloat a little | 14:40 |
| ximion | in a more distant future, we could simply cut of the data after a certain point in time | 14:41 |
| Laney | you can compress it | 14:45 |
| Laney | like rrd does | 14:45 |
| jbicha | Laney: you remember how we built webkit yesterday? well someone bumped the libwebp soname today | 16:30 |
| Laney | too busy crying over ssh-agent | 16:32 |
| jbicha | I rebooted and ssh-agent isn't cooperating here either | 16:34 |
| jbicha | I guess I unfortunately caught it at a good moment earlier | 16:35 |
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| Laney | brb | 16:39 |
| seb128 | time for some tennis here, bbl | 16:39 |
| Laney | jbicha: seems like it's a borked zshrc for me | 16:45 |
| jbicha | you don't use bash? | 16:45 |
| Laney | <- hipster | 16:45 |
| jbicha | ok, I'm using bash and I seem to have the ssh-agent bug now but I didn't earlier today | 16:46 |
| jbicha | but the Debian bug report said there was a race so that may be why it works some times | 16:48 |
| Laney | there's a bug in the new gpg-agent.service | 16:48 |
| Laney | this is systemd user stuff | 16:48 |
| Laney | it combined with a bug in my zshrc | 16:49 |
| Laney | to make a second ssh agent get started | 16:49 |
| Laney | night | 17:19 |
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| === fredp is now known as Guest95462 | ||
| kyrofa | Ah, I love the new scrollbars in xenial. So much better than 14.04 | 22:50 |
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