[05:35] <hikiko> ηι
[05:35] <hikiko> hi
[05:50] <duflu> Morning hikiko
[05:50] <hikiko> hi duflu
[05:50] <duflu> It must be morning somewhere
[05:50] <hikiko> here :)
[05:51] <hikiko> 08:50:55
[05:51] <duflu> I suspected as much
[05:51] <hikiko> haha
[07:10] <Trevinho> Good morning!
[07:16] <seb128> good morning desktopers
[07:16] <seb128> hey Trevinho
[07:22] <hikiko> hey seb128 Trevinho
[07:22]  * desrt yawns
[07:22] <hikiko> and desrt :)
[07:22] <seb128> hey hikiko
[07:22] <seb128> hey desrt
[07:22] <desrt> hello hikiko and seb128 and maybe also Trevinho :)
[08:04] <Laney> saulton homoj
[08:04] <seb128> howdy Laney!
[08:05] <Laney> hey seb128
[08:05] <Laney> how are you?
[08:05] <seb128> good! you?
[08:05] <Laney> blue sky is back
[08:05] <seb128> did you recover from your neck injury btw?
[08:06] <Laney> seems better
[08:06] <seb128> it's 19°C grey and raining here :-/
[08:06] <Laney> i went climbing on monday and it didn't get bad again
[08:06] <Laney> so fingers crossed
[08:06] <seb128> great
[08:06] <seb128> don't cross the fingers too much while climbing, might give you a less good grip :p
[08:08] <Laney> :D
[08:59] <Laney> seb128: can you promote https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wayland-protocols/+bug/1607753 please?
[09:07] <seb128> Laney, done
[09:17] <Laney> thankssssssSSSSsssSSSssSSSss
[09:19] <seb128> yw!
[09:23] <andyrock> morning
[09:23] <seb128> hey andyrock, how are you?
[09:29] <Laney> really good it seems!
[09:34] <seb128> he's probably making some pizza with Trevinho
[09:34] <seb128> italians!
[09:34] <seb128> :-)
[09:40] <andyrock> hehehe I'm not sprinting with Trevinho anymore XD
[09:41] <seb128> sad
[09:54] <Trevinho> Eh... Yeah.. They were good times
[11:20] <willcooke> wifi now doesnt work at all in the office for me
[11:20] <willcooke> seb128, same issue as I had at the hotel ^ :(
[11:21] <willcooke> time to change the wifi card again I think
[11:26] <Laney> jbicha: Want to review a gnome-session 3.20.2 package?
[11:26] <Laney> pwetty pwease
[11:27] <Laney> I'm not sure about how the wayland stuff there goes together
[11:28] <jbicha> Laney: ok, I had been procrastinating doing that update
[11:28] <Laney> jbicha: something (gnome-shell?) ends up wanting it now
[11:28] <Laney> pushing in 5 minutes
[11:28] <Laney> need to freshen the changelog
[11:36] <Laney> hmm
[11:36] <jbicha> Laney: there's some issues with ssh-agent but I don't know if newer software version fixed it https://bugs.debian.org/804703
[11:36] <jbicha> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-gnome/2016-June/004046.html
[11:38] <Laney> jbicha: for Ubuntu that's all in systemd now, would be worth testing for you
[11:38]  * Laney makes a note to update session-migration
[11:43] <jbicha> hmm, ssh is working fine for me today so I dunno
[11:43] <Laney> jbicha: ok, pushed
[12:04] <jbicha> onboard doesn't do well with wayland :(
[12:05] <Laney> :<
[12:17] <jbicha> Laney: looks good, built and seems to run fine with GNOME and GNOME on Wayland
[12:21] <Sweet5hark> heya, all! LibreOffice 5.2.0 is out! As a snap too!
[12:23] <seb128> willcooke, that's an annoying one :-/ Did you ever end up testing on a live image?
[12:23] <jbicha> Sweet5hark: +1
[12:23] <seb128> Sweet5hark, well done!
[13:22] <Laney> jbicha: nice, thanks
[13:24] <Laney> one of the new things in there is proper journal logging
[13:32] <seb128> we might want to look a gnome-logs again this cycle!
[13:33] <Laney> glib got some stuff too
[13:33] <Laney> didn't look at it yet
[13:34] <seb128> what does it change?
[13:34] <Laney> logging apis for the journal
[13:34] <seb128> makes things listed with the name of the app that print them?
[13:34] <Laney> you can do structured stuff too
[13:34] <seb128> because we sort of already had everything !upstartjob going to the journal it seems
[13:34] <seb128> at least every time I lookd for some log I find them there already in xenial
[13:35] <Laney> from gnome-session?
[13:35] <seb128> yes
[13:35] <Laney> indeed
[13:35] <Laney> that gets nicer with 3.20
[13:35] <Laney> and then app authors can use the new apis to do it nicer still
[13:35] <Laney> https://developer.gnome.org/glib/2.49/glib-Message-Logging.html#g-log-structured
[13:36] <seb128> ah, that has to do with the catalog thing
[13:36] <seb128> I was just reading a bit about that earlier
[13:37] <seb128> they added access to it in snappy's log-observer interface
[13:37] <seb128> cool
[13:37]  * seb128 has gnome-logs snapped worked under strong confinement with that
[13:47] <ximion> Laney: compiling asgen with LDC shows some interesting performance differences...
[13:48] <ximion> in general it looks like gdc creates much faster code (with a few exceptions where LDC beats GDC by a large margin) - the more recent druntime version of LDC apparently also reduces the memory usage a lot
[13:48] <ximion> all in all, annoying: you apparently can't get all the good things :P
[14:18] <willcooke> seb128, @ live image - yeah, same issue.  Must be hardware related
[14:18] <seb128> looks like it
[14:20] <willcooke> some odd combination of this card and whatever we use for wifi access points.  Works "fine" at home
[14:25] <Laney> ximion: so sticking with gdc?
[14:26] <ximion> Laney: I am thinking about it - GDC has better optimizers, but also a terribly old standard library and runtime
[14:26] <ximion> I need to do proper benchmarks on this
[14:26] <seb128> yeah :-/
[14:26] <ximion> maybe the speed advantages and disadvantages cancel each other out ^^
[14:27] <ximion> on my (more powerful) development system, I don't notice much of a difference
[14:27] <ximion> all effects I saw were on the slower deployment machine
[14:29] <ximion> Laney: what's missing for Ubuntu to use asgen?
[14:30] <Laney> same
[14:30] <Laney> langpack and translation
[14:30] <ximion> uh, things I don't know much about...
[14:30] <Laney> you know about translations
[14:30] <Laney> it's the same in debian
[14:30] <ximion> GLib has all the functions necessary to read .mo files though :)
[14:31] <Laney> will do it once gnome 3.20 is pushed in
[14:40] <ximion> great :)
[14:40] <ximion> I just added some code to reduce the statistics bloat a little
[14:41] <ximion> in a more distant future, we could simply cut of the data after a certain point in time
[14:45] <Laney> you can compress it
[14:45] <Laney> like rrd does
[16:30] <jbicha> Laney: you remember how we built webkit yesterday? well someone bumped the libwebp soname today
[16:32] <Laney> too busy crying over ssh-agent
[16:34] <jbicha> I rebooted and ssh-agent isn't cooperating here either
[16:35] <jbicha> I guess I unfortunately caught it at a good moment earlier
[16:39] <Laney> brb
[16:39] <seb128> time for some tennis here, bbl
[16:45] <Laney> jbicha: seems like it's a borked zshrc for me
[16:45] <jbicha> you don't use bash?
[16:45] <Laney> <- hipster
[16:46] <jbicha> ok, I'm using bash and I seem to have the ssh-agent bug now but I didn't earlier today
[16:48] <jbicha> but the Debian bug report said there was a race so that may be why it works some times
[16:48] <Laney> there's a bug in the new gpg-agent.service
[16:48] <Laney> this is systemd user stuff
[16:49] <Laney> it combined with a bug in my zshrc
[16:49] <Laney> to make a second ssh agent get started
[17:19] <Laney> night
[22:50] <kyrofa> Ah, I love the new scrollbars in xenial. So much better than 14.04