[00:32] <malaverdiere> Hi *. I wanted to install ubuntu mate 16.04.1 on an older laptop - but dedoimedo's review of Ubuntu gave me pause... In your experience, are the bugs he mentioned fixed by now?
[00:41] <ouroumov> Hi malaverdiere
[00:41] <ouroumov> Do you have a link to the review please?
[00:41] <malaverdiere> hi ouroumov
[00:43] <malaverdiere> http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/ubuntu-xerus.html
[00:43] <ouroumov> Thanks
[00:46] <ouroumov> Are you using realtek cards?
[00:47] <malaverdiere> nope
[00:48] <ouroumov> The samba stuff hasn't been fixed. I'm not sure auth required is a bug or a feature.
[00:48] <malaverdiere> I'm more concerned about the MTP support and overall stability
[00:48] <ouroumov> MTP?
[00:48] <malaverdiere> for connecting my android phone
[00:49] <ouroumov> MTP is not mentioned on this review I think (CTRL+Fed)
[00:49] <malaverdiere> no, but he mentions the phone support
[00:51] <ouroumov> Then again, he's rocking nautilus + rhythmbox, you can try caja + vlc.
[00:51] <ouroumov> Anyway
[00:51] <ouroumov> There's problems with xenial that's for sure.
[00:51] <malaverdiere> how's the out-of-the-box experience with mate?
[00:51] <jojom8> you got that right XD
[00:51] <ouroumov> The network thing is very serious imo.
[00:52] <ouroumov> Especially if you're on a wifi-only system
[00:52] <jojom8> i have problems with it, sometimes
[00:52] <malaverdiere> :(
[00:52] <jojom8> But it really only depends on your system
[00:52] <ouroumov> Then there's the freaking gvfs-smb bug
[00:53] <ouroumov> Which mostly hit you if you're on a wifi hotspot, afaik
[00:53] <jojom8> I'm running m8 on a bananna pi & it's working pretty much flawlessly
[00:54] <ouroumov> malaverdiere, you're using the live session of Ubuntu MATE now?
[00:54] <malaverdiere> nope - that system is on Linux Mint XFCE.
[00:55] <malaverdiere> Since Mint is getting nearly indentical to Ubuntu, I figured I might as well go for the original
[00:55] <ouroumov> well you should try it if you want an idea of <what it feels like
[00:55] <malaverdiere> the rough spots rarely show then :)
[00:56] <jojom8> I'm using MATE right now
[00:56] <ouroumov> malaverdiere, Mint18 is based on Xenial. So much of the bugs will hit you as well.
[00:56] <malaverdiere> That system is on mint17
[00:57] <malaverdiere> that xfce setup just doesn't handle the 'hand-touching-the-trackpad' issue well
[00:58] <ouroumov> Hm
[00:58] <ouroumov> Well maybe you can dual boot Mint+UM for a while?
[00:58] <malaverdiere> not a bad idea
[01:00] <malaverdiere> thanks for the tips. g'night (or g'day)
[01:00] <ouroumov> night ^^
[02:23] <hanzo9283> good morning everyone
[02:23] <ouroumov> morning hanzo9283
[02:24] <hanzo9283> morning ouroumov
[02:24] <hanzo9283> hows everyone doing?
[02:24] <ouroumov> I'm doing fine. How about you?
[02:24] <ouroumov> Man you have an IP that starts with 1., that's cool.
[02:25] <hanzo9283> and that mean? @_@
[02:25] <ouroumov> hanzo9283 (~hanzo9283@1.9.107.48) has joined #ubuntu-mate
[02:25] <hanzo9283> ok.... hahahaha i dont know anything about that
[02:26] <hanzo9283> i just installed ubuntu mate recently on my old laptop
[02:26] <ouroumov> cool
[02:26] <hanzo9283> im still new to this... so im sorry if im slow in certain areas :D
[02:27] <ouroumov> No problem
[02:27] <hanzo9283> where are you from ouroumov?
[02:27] <ouroumov> France
[02:27] <hanzo9283> WOW.... you are on the other side of the planet @_@
[02:27] <ouroumov> Where are you? ^^
[02:27] <hanzo9283> whats the time there?
[02:28] <hanzo9283> im from Malaysia
[02:28] <hanzo9283> :D
[02:28] <ouroumov> :D
[02:28] <ouroumov> So how do you like Ubuntu MATE so far? Any problems?
[02:29] <hanzo9283> i like it... it works great on my laptop... although this laptop has problem of not allowing me to install window 7 or 8 or 10
[02:29] <hanzo9283> something about ACPI compliant
[02:30] <hanzo9283> and my gpu stopped working
[02:30] <hanzo9283> the laptop is ASUS K40AB series
[02:30] <ouroumov> You've gone through the "Getting Started" steps of the "Welcome" splash screen?
[02:31] <hanzo9283> yup
[02:31] <hanzo9283> thats how i got here XD
[02:31] <ouroumov> There's a "Driver & Firmware" install step
[02:32] <hanzo9283> yup.. found it.. but it says ATI RADEON HD 3200... this laptop GPU is ATI RADEON HD4570
[02:32] <ouroumov> weird :o
[02:33] <hanzo9283> yup... ive done some research about it.. and most of them says HD4570 is integrated graphics, and only activated if u are playing games
[02:33] <hanzo9283> but it wont even activated manually
[02:35] <hanzo9283> so 95 total online or just username?
[02:36] <ouroumov> Total online at the moment
[02:36] <ouroumov> But few of them are currently watching this window
[02:36] <ouroumov> A good chuck are asleep
[02:36] <hanzo9283> owh.... ok... @_@.... kinda like lurker XD
[02:36] <ouroumov> Yes
[02:37] <ouroumov> IDLE is a proud and honorable tradition on IRC.
[02:37] <hanzo9283> downloading this flightgear... i just love simulator
[02:38] <ouroumov> I'm gonna smoke one
[02:38] <ouroumov> bb
[02:39] <hanzo9283> okk
[02:42] <hanzo9283> i touch something and now the toolbar on the bottom of the screen not hiding it self anymore.. anyone got an idea?
[07:15] <thb> bonjour j'ai quelques pb sur raspberry Pi3 et ubuntu mate . chromium cratch systematiquement  et le logiciel bitscope n'affiche pas de trace..merci pour votre aide
[07:32] <alkisg> thb, english?
[07:32] <alkisg> !fr
[07:37] <thb> merci
[10:24] <edihediawan> HELLO
[10:25] <edihediawan> test
[10:26] <edihediawan> anyone can help me to ask some my questions ?
[10:28] <edihediawan> how to improve max speed in ubuntu mate on raspberry 3 ?
[10:30] <edihediawan> raspberry 3 if wanna use as pc desktop, which better OS should be use ? ubuntu mate or raspbian
[11:00] <muhamad> hi
[11:00] <muhamad> are you come from Indonesia?
[11:01] <muhamad> sounds your name is Indonesian style
[11:02] <muhamad> my answer it depend on what you will do with the OS
[11:02] <muhamad> if you want for daily working, Ubuntu Mate is better
[11:02] <muhamad> like me i use Ubuntu Mate for my work as software engineer
[11:03] <muhamad> in my personal notebook
[14:15] <SuperEngineer> Yahoo account list hacked.  If [like me] you have a spam dump mail a/c with them - change password now.
[14:52] <DarkPsydeLord> thanks for the info!
[14:53] <SuperEngineer> NP
[16:51] <pierre> hi
[16:51] <pierre> english here ?
[16:53] <Akuli> yes
[16:53] <pierre> ok thanks
[16:54] <pierre> this room include also the raspberry pi3 device ?
[16:55] <Akuli> pierre, yes, when someone knows something about it :)
[16:55] <pierre> ok cool
[16:55] <pierre> even other flavor like lubuntu for raspberry ?
[16:56] <Akuli> they have their own channels
[16:56] <Akuli> so usually not
[16:56] <pierre> ah sorry i'm using both
[16:56] <Akuli> :)
[16:56] <Akuli> doesn't matter what you're using, i'm helping on many different distributions' channels even though i can only use one at a time :D
[16:57] <pierre> im under ubuntu mate for rasp pi3 so and i have some sound troubles
[16:57] <Akuli> run alsamixer on a terminal
[16:57] <Akuli> is it looking like it should?
[16:58] <pierre> ok i try
[17:00] <pierre> the sound trouble only appears with youtube video an infernal scratch  ...lol ...
[17:01] <Akuli> and you haven't muted it in youtube?
[17:01] <pierre> no cause at the begining it works and after a little time i encoutered this trouble
[17:02] <pierre> sorry i have to reboot... i ll be back
[17:17] <pierre> hi back
[17:18] <pierre> with my sound troubles under rasp pi 3 and ubuntu mate
[17:20] <pierre> it seems it appears under youtube
[17:21] <bmarsolais> First time here so thanks for the help.  I'm using as RPi3 connected to a 4K monitor.  Instead of configuring itself to 192x1080 which the monitor can do, it goes to 1846x945 (or something close to that.  Don't remember exaactly.)  Why does it do that and how can I force 1920x1080p?
[17:22] <bmarsolais> "It" means the RPi3 is configuring itself to the wrong screen size.
[17:23] <bmarsolais> I deteremined the screen RPi3 configuration from System > Hardware > Displays.
[17:24] <bmarsolais> I'm running Mate 16.04
[17:25] <bmarsolais> Updated the system yesterday.
[17:31] <christoph> window 2
[17:36] <pierre> please what other video player could i instal under raspberry pi 3 cause vlc take much ressources
[17:36] <pierre> sound but images saccaded
[17:37] <rahtgaz> install mpv and smplayer as the front end if you need one. But mpv alone should suffice for best resource optimization
[17:37] <rahtgaz> besides its better than vlc these days
[17:39] <pierre> ok i try to install smplayer
[17:39] <pierre> thanks
[17:40] <pierre> hope it will be better
[17:41] <rahtgaz> it will. However it won't install mpv for you, I think. It will instead bundle with another player called mplayer. If that is the case, don't forget to install mpv and then set smplayer to use that in the preferences
[17:42] <rahtgaz> also, pierre, smplayer is positively ugly when you first launch it. Don be put off. It's just its default skin from a drunken developer, or a joke. You can change the skin in the preferences
[18:15] <bmarsolais> I'm using as RPi3 connected to a Dell P2415Q 4K monitor.  Instead of the RPi3 configuring itself to 1920x1080 which the monitor is spec'ed to do, it goes to 1846x945 (or something close to that.  Don't remember exactly.) Why does the RPi3 do that and how can I force 1920x1080p?  I updated the system yesterday.  Using Mate 16.04.  RPi3 final video configuration determined using System > Hardware > Displays.
[20:01] <bennabiy> who is maintaining the package mate-menu?
[20:12] <Akuli> apt-cache show show mate-menu
[20:12] <Akuli> i mean
[20:12] <Akuli> apt-cache show mate-menu
[20:12] <Akuli> says
[20:13] <Akuli> Maintainer: Ubuntu Developers <ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com>
[21:17] <bennabiy> how would I go about updating my system with the latest source of mate-menu on bitbucket?
[21:21] <mate|98846> Hello
[21:21] <mate|98846> Forgot to change my name oops
[21:22] <YankDownUnder> bennabiy: Are there PPA's made available?
[21:23] <bennabiy> not that I have seen
[21:23] <bennabiy> I could make it if I knew where all the files were supposed to go.
[21:25] <YankDownUnder> bennabiy: You might want to dig into the developer's wiki - if you're game enough to have things broken...KDE/Plasma has a "backports" PPA for "cutting edge" stuff...I'm sure, that buried somewhere in the wiki, is the same for "Mate"...
[21:27] <YankDownUnder> bennabiy: You can always look into the source tarballs: http://wiki.mate-desktop.org/download
[21:27] <bennabiy> YankDownUnder: thank you, that is true
[21:31] <YankDownUnder> bennabiy: Always remember, though, to exercise caution - because, inevitably, you will break things. BIG things. :)
[21:31] <bennabiy> YankDownUnder: Not afraid to break things...
[21:31] <bennabiy> I just need to fix this
[21:32] <bennabiy> and I would like to be testing my fixes against the latest source
[21:32] <YankDownUnder> bennabiy: Fix...er...fix what?
[21:32] <bennabiy> mate-menu
[21:32] <bennabiy> display is broken on remote X sessions
[21:32] <bennabiy> unless piped through ssh
[21:34] <YankDownUnder> bennabiy: Hmm...you sure it's an issue with Mate and not necessarily the "listening" ports for the X server...? Just wondering...
[23:52] <name> hello
[23:54] <ouroumov> hi name
[23:54] <name> i just install ubuntu mate , could anyone tell me where is the software depository please ?
[23:54] <name> it's not on the menu ?
[23:54] <ouroumov> System -> Welcome, then click "Software"
[23:55] <name> sorry , where i click Software ?
[23:55] <ouroumov> When the welcome application opens, there's a button named "Software"
[23:56] <ouroumov> You can also get to it through:
[23:56] <name> ok i look thank you :-)
[23:56] <ouroumov> System -> Administration -> Software Boutique
[23:57] <name> ok bye for now ...
[23:57] <ouroumov> bye