[06:01] morning boys and girls. [06:38] Behold ! For I have entered the realm of Linux via the Bash environment running onto my Windows 10 machine [06:38] All hail the aniversary update and lets praise it for allowing us to finally apt-get update ... IN WINDOWS :) [06:39] What can I say , i'm easily amused [06:44] although there does seem to be an issue with scrolling [06:49] if microsoft had of been truly up to their usual standards they should have gone with yum instead of apt just to be a little wrong... :-P [06:50] true [06:50] :) [06:51] there where apparently some redraw issues with the SSH window I had [06:52] Checking if this is the case too when i run the irssi nativelyt === marshmn_work is now known as marshmn|work [07:47] Hmm. [07:48] so that terminal still needs some work :) [08:10] Morning all [08:10] hey davmor2 [08:15] knightwise: works in teh std win 10 yet? or the beta/preview thing [08:17] Stadnard [08:17] since the anniversary update [08:30] oh, time to boot the vsphereOS for the first time in months then [08:30] i only need it to deploy ovfs in vmware [08:35] Does anybody here play Goat Simulator [via Steam] on their Ubuntu pc? If so, tried it lately? Does it still work? === brmbrmca1 is now known as brmbrmcar [08:39] i get this every time i boot windows after running linux http://imgur.com/a/8i5Ro [08:39] then windows works the 2nd time [08:49] knightwise: still not there on my copy [08:49] looking for "windows subsystem for linux" === Darkstar is now known as Guest33583 [08:52] hmm 1511 build 10586 [08:52] looks like the old windows update restart update restart repeat [08:53] foobarry: "linux subsystem for windows" perhaps? [08:53] don't think i have the correct build number yet [08:54] SuperEngineer: thats the one [08:54] You have to switch to developer mode first [08:54] done that [08:54] then add the linux subsystem for windows [08:54] not an option [08:54] in the list of windows features [08:54] http://www.howtogeek.com/249966/how-to-install-and-use-the-linux-bash-shell-on-windows-10/ [08:55] Then you dontg have the anniversary update yet [08:56] Have you tried turning it off & back on again? :-D [08:57] yep [08:58] well Sir, if you repeat the update/restart process another 280 times, you should then see it" :-D [08:58] i think so [09:03] sigh it wants 20GB free space [09:09] Good morning all! Happy Wednesday, and happy Watermelon Day! 😃 🍉 [09:14] JamesTait: think this covers it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dAy9u0_9nM [09:16] It's also new comic book day, but that's every wednesday [09:19] foobarry: thats a lot just for the upgrade [09:32] its cooking my fans too [09:32] and is a lie === brmbrmca1 is now known as brmbrmcar [10:45] anniversary update totally hosed my grub [10:46] of course [11:01] utterly shagged [11:02] http://askubuntu.com/questions/655011/windows-10-upgrade-kills-grub-and-boot-repair-doesnt-help [11:06] its deleted my ubuntu partitions [11:09] foobarry: gaah [11:09] annoying [11:12] lost it all [11:12] could not recreate the partition [11:15] foobarry: there was a post by seb128 I think basically saying Oh come on Windows Devs I can't believe you have never come across a dual booting system [11:16] bit late now :( [11:16] totally didn't expect a windows update to trash the system when the win10 upgrade didnt [11:16] never again. ever [11:16] VM only from now on for windows [11:17] foobarry: meh I have it on a separate box for testing only so I don't care :) [11:23] foobarry: agree [11:23] big win updates tend to love fracking around with the mbr [11:23] * knightwise hasnt dualbooted in years [11:24] why "choose" when your machine has enough juice to run it all [11:24] because NAT faffing [11:24] foobarry: that i concur [11:25] when i want to do somethink like wifi sniffing and stuff , there are issues because its not running on bare metal [11:25] * knightwise needs to get a netbook for that [11:29] foobarry: but why nat , why not just bridge the adapters ? [11:29] either way. a faff [11:29] at least it was when i tried last [11:29] i really don't like virtualbox either [11:30] i'm playing around with some of the Kali tools and have noticed that some things dont work because i run them in a vm [11:33] trying testdisk and then photorec as last resort [11:33] erk [11:34] that's unfortunate [11:34] foobarry: were they all on one disk, partitions? [11:34] I keep windows and ubuntu on separate disks, wonder if I am safe from this issue [11:34] this is a laptop SSD [11:35] really was not expected [11:41] ah [11:42] i did point out to seb128 that we have had a bug where ubuntu nukes the windows partition. maybe this was payback ㋛ [11:42] :'( [11:43] running photorec [11:44] this all started because i wanted bash on windows [11:44] but is gonna bite all dual booters i expect [11:44] i only ran the anniv update, thats it [11:59] foobarry: looks like it treats it as a complete new version of windows [12:00] just got asked if I wanted to delete the "previous version" of windows to free up space [12:26] directhex: ^ [12:27] knightwise: didn't ask me that [12:27] but glad u got the option:D [12:34] previous version was 21 gig [12:34] * knightwise only has a 128 gig ssd [12:35] * brmbrmcar only has a 9 gig ssd [12:38] brmbrmcar: thats tight [13:00] foobarry: any luck with photorec? [13:01] the screensaver went on the livecd and i can't ctrl-alt-f1 but the disk is going [13:01] so i will leave it a few hrs [13:01] what a disaster [13:01] even resetting the partition in fdisk didn't work. [13:02] somehow it trashed it totally [13:02] and no partition info found [13:02] listening to this song to cheer me up https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4QQ7HYYdWw [13:10] foobarry: crud man :' [13:11] nice tune tho [13:12] hah, not the most cheery thing I've heard today [13:27] yet still evocative of a certain mood [13:57] Yahoo account list hacked. If [like me] you have a spam dump mail a/c with them - change password now. [13:57] hmm maybe a flickr account [13:57] SuperEngineer: Yawho? [13:58] yeah I need to change my password, and enable 2fa [13:58] agreed [13:58] I'm getting better at turning-on 2fa in places [13:59] didn't a security organisation just poo poo 2fa using sms recently? [14:00] zmoylan-pi: err, NIST. the National Institute of Science and Technology [14:00] zmoylan-pi: you can't get much bigger than NIST [14:00] it's a really big deal over the pond IIRC [14:00] diddledan_: yes you can it's easy watch NISTXL [14:01] lol [14:01] apparently it's common in the states for banks to assume SMS is secure enough to send authentication codes via [14:01] diddledan_: add more X's and it gets bigger still :P [14:02] diddledan_XXXL <-- that's me [14:02] how do you pronounce the name "nguyen"? [14:03] no google 2fa though :( [14:03] wing [14:03] diddledan_: allegedly [14:03] i thought it was pronounced noy-gu-nn [14:04] https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6c/Nguyen_%28northern_dialect%29.ogg [14:04] so. gwen? [14:10] I have 2Fa on all my accounts. factor 1.. type password, factor 2... darn, password too strong for me to get right when inputting ;-) [14:10] lol [14:12] SuperEngineer: I have 4 factor on some of my accounts, your 2 plus getting it wrong again getting locked out of my account, contacting them for an unblock creating a new password that turns out to be the old password and crying in the corner [14:13] rofl [14:22] recovered 121000 files with photorec [14:22] don't think i'll bother [14:22] foobarry: ouch [14:22] foobarry: time to ditch windows for good? :-p [14:23] yes, VM only for now. i only need it to deploy .ova files in vmware [14:23] foobarry: so you need to nuke and re-install? [14:23] waste of a day :( [14:24] yeah [14:25] feel sad today, but liberated tomorrow from dual boot i guess [14:25] * SuperEngineer hugs XP pc hidden in corner [14:25] [and seldom used] [14:27] testing new elementary beta 2 and the touchpad is like i have parkinsons [14:27] apart from being part of botnet of course... :-) [14:27] but the nipple mouse is stable :S [14:28] ... seems the only time I start my XP machine [with a dual boot on it] is to update Ubuntu Mate... you don't always know when that big hardware fail is around the corner - & it keeps my smug smile smug ;-) [14:37] don't go to blackhat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tw0q3rhB7iQ [14:40] seems to be bug 1272624 [14:40] bug 1272624 in linux (Ubuntu) "[Dell Latitude E7440] 14.04 Touchpad causing mouse pointer to spuriously jump around screen" [Medium,Expired] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1272624 [14:40] http://xkcd.com/1105/ [15:21] diddledan_: did i share my latest Hitman escapade? ;) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVbt4IVkcNY [15:22] more disappearing folk? [15:22] nope! normal play this time [15:35] knightwise: Yeah, it's a struggle... [16:53] https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/4vw21h/massive_psa_do_not_download_classic_shell_read/ [16:53] ooooh dear [16:54] Saw that earlier, think its been sorted out now [16:54] could be, nasty one though [16:54] Was also supposed to be affecting audacity [17:06] hmm, i sent a local trade website seller a list of questions and when he finally replied, he ignored them all - then i asked again and he replied to half [17:06] email can be so rubbish [17:11] I'm not sure that's emails fault. [17:11] people can be so rubbish [17:11] * popey wanders off to shoot some of them in Rust [17:12] Seeker`: as a medium, it's legitimate to refer to the common failings of people making use of it [17:12] but sure if you really want to slice the hairs some more, the people at the other end... [17:14] ali1234: i found you in the wild! and right you are - http://forum.crucial.com/t5/Crucial-SSDs/SSDs-and-Secure-Erase/ta-p/112580 [17:14] haven't been experiencing some similar woes with MX100s have you? [19:56] daftykins: ali1234: that crucial thread is weird. I mean what's wrong with blkdiscard or fstrim? [19:56] windows? [19:56] obviously those are loonicks commands but there must be equivalents [19:57] the windows equivalent is a 500mb java app that installs it's own webserver and then you connect to it through your browser [19:57] err [19:57] wat? [19:57] that's nucking futs [19:57] it's called micro storage executive [19:58] *micron [19:58] I believe this sums that crazyness up: http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/173/575/25810.jpg [20:00] some one took the duck race one step too far... [20:01] I read the word "wat" and imagine rubber-ducky-squeek making the noise of the word [20:02] it gets better. MSE works on linux too [20:02] crucial rebrands it [20:02] there's also a command line version of MSE for linux [20:02] :) [20:02] but crucial do not rebrand that one [20:02] but it works fine anyway [20:02] that's why is a java app i suppose [20:02] well i've been browsing around because there's a bug in the MX100 firmware they're not going to fix [20:02] yeah my MX100 died [20:03] that's why i was on there [20:03] anyone in warranty they're just giving an MX200 instead, won't work on it [20:03] yep same [20:03] the tech support guy was chatting rubbish to me today claiming the 200 is all better and superior, but it's rubbish too! [20:03] very poor [20:03] it's pretty much exactly the same [20:03] what's the bug? [20:03] anywho i found my issues on Windows were fixed by enabling hot plug on the port, but that's not on every system [20:03] when mine died there wasn't a known unfixed bug [20:04] oh the hot plug thing [20:04] oh it's just my assumption really, there's no 'proof' [20:04] mine totally died [20:04] like first it went read only [20:04] then it wouldn't even read [20:04] you can get drive disappearances that can be rectified with a few power cycles i think [20:04] i tried all that [20:04] i'll type it up in a mo anywho, just made food :) [20:04] i read allllllll the things [20:04] nothing worked, it was totally dead jim [20:05] so i RMA'd it [20:05] nasty [20:05] MX200 been working ok? [20:05] not used it yet [20:05] i have two drives: my current install and my previous install [20:05] the one that died was my previous install [20:06] so next time i do a fresh install it will go on the MX200 [20:06] fingers crossed it lasts... [20:06] so depending upon AHCI driver under Windows 10, the drive would either cause BSODs if it were the OS drive - or an entire freeze of the OS (mouse pointer still moving) if it were a slave drive [20:07] *or* it would disappear :D [20:07] since i turned hot plug on on that port though, it's been fine [20:07] yeah i read about that one [20:07] i already had hotplug turned on [20:08] nah yours sounds a totally separate issue for sure, mines SMART data is pretty much ok [20:08] and the drive never actually disappeared. it just wouldn't respond - at all - to any ATA commands that involve reading the disk [20:08] mmm could be what mine would get into during the freezes [20:08] the freeze was with the iastor MS provided driver, disappearance was with intel's AHCI driver [20:09] before i got onto playing with drivers and hotplug i was disabling HIPM and DIPM via registry edits in Windows [20:09] that might have prolonged the times before incident but it still hung around [20:10] does seem Crucial want to just misdirect folk experiencing it though [20:11] i've got an RMA setup but i called in saying i wasn't happy getting a 500GB drive to replace a 512GB :D "sorry sir but we're not giving MX300s out right now" [20:12] you can change the overprovisioning if you want :) [20:12] that's the only difference afaik [20:12] he reckoned the MX300 525GB isn't showing up yet [20:13] well the MX200 has a small SLC cache it uses to make writes appear faster before transferring them later during idle time [20:13] s/them/the newly written data/ [20:14] they diddled the drive specs! [20:15] I had nothing to do with it! [20:15] =] [20:15] a likely story