[07:06] <Kilos> morning all. chores time
[07:36] <andrewlsd> Happy Local government election day 
[08:06] <paddatrapper> Morning andrewlsd, Kilos, almal
[08:06] <magespawn> good morning
[08:07] <paddatrapper> How things magespawn?
[08:11] <magespawn> goog and you paddatrapper ?
[08:11] <magespawn> good too
[08:11] <paddatrapper> I'm fine thanks
[08:22] <Kilos> hi paddatrapper magespawn inetpro and others
[08:24] <magespawn> hey Kilos 
[08:29]  * Kilos spoiled
[08:30] <Kilos> was given maybe 1kg or more of kudu biltong
[08:30] <magespawn> awesome
[08:31] <Kilos> yeah , neighbour whose sheep i look after is a good guy
[08:45] <magespawn> brb reboot
[08:57] <magespawn> hey
[09:08] <Kilos> wb magespawn 
[10:04] <superfly> Wow, nice Kilos, you deserve it 
[10:05] <Kilos> ty superfly 
[10:05]  * superfly has his thumb marked 
[11:02] <Sicelo> with 666? :p
[11:14] <MaNI> anyone having internet speed issues today?
[11:45] <Sicelo> not me
[11:51] <magespawn> MaNI: ISP?
[11:52] <magespawn> ahh isee afrihost
[11:54] <paddatrapper> MaNI: I have, but that's nothing new...
[11:55] <magespawn> is it just general, or specific?
[12:30] <Kilos> slow here as well
[12:32] <Kilos> took forever just to login to speedtest.net
[12:48] <MaNI> afrihost, everything
[12:48] <MaNI> couldn't even speedtest properly
[12:54]  * superfly seems fine
[13:02] <magespawn> chat later
[13:14] <MaNI> yeah seems to have cleared up now
[16:29] <SEptic> evening
[16:33] <inetpro> good mornings
[16:33] <SEptic> hehe
[16:44] <Kilos> hi inetpro SEptic nsnzero 
[16:46] <nsnzero> hi Kilos how you doing ?
[16:46] <Kilos> ok ty and you
[16:46] <nsnzero> fighting a stomach bug but finally in recovery mode 
[16:46] <Kilos> sjoe
[16:49] <SEptic> thats not lekker
[16:51] <SEptic> found a rather nagging bug 
[16:51] <SEptic> in kubuntu
[16:51] <Kilos> ouch
[16:51] <SEptic> not my stomach, no pun intended nsnzero
[16:52] <nsnzero> lol , i wish i was as easy to repair as linux 
[16:52] <SEptic> working lekker no problems, until tuesday, existing wifi connections refuse to connect and just sit with "waiting for autorization"
[16:52] <SEptic> rofl
[16:53] <Kilos> wifi from a router?
[16:53] <SEptic> both my laptops cant connect to my phone hotspot, but only 1 laptop connects to my wifi router at home
[16:54] <SEptic> finding one or two posts about NetworkManager and .. wicd i think?
[16:54] <SEptic> any ideas?
[16:54] <nsnzero> SEptic: i had a similar problem - its the network manger - did you upgrade it ?
[16:55] <SEptic> not yet, looking for a post how to
[16:56] <nsnzero> use synaptic 
[17:01] <SEptic> ooh this fancy, havent used synaptic before
[17:01] <SEptic> do i mark to upgrade?
[17:01] <Kilos> wow
[17:01] <Kilos> tell it reload
[17:01] <Kilos> then in edit mark all upgrades
[17:03] <Kilos> or type in the top whatever you want to reinstall which fetches updates for that package
[17:06] <Sicelo> and if you're on KDE, check if the password wallet is 'open' .. one of the annoyances that make me wish to go back to Gnome asap
[17:06] <SEptic> aah ok cool, will check
[17:06] <nsnzero> sorry i opened synaptic and got carried away
[17:06] <SEptic> i see both laptops have the latest updated versions of network-manager already
[17:07] <SEptic> rofl
[17:08] <nsnzero> SEptic: use the force version to roll back to the previous version - that sorted out my problem - you can also lock it so it wont upgrade 
[17:08] <SEptic> woah, how have i survived this long without using synaptic :/
[17:09] <Kilos> hi gremble 
[17:10] <gremble> Hey Kilos 
[17:10] <gremble> How are you?
[17:10] <Kilos> ok ty and you lad?
[17:12] <gremble> I am well thank you
[17:32] <SEptic> rolled back the network-manager package ... lets see
[17:33] <SEptic> meh :|
[17:39] <Sicelo> logs are your friend .. what do they say?
[17:40] <SEptic> i need to go look there
[17:40] <SEptic> pretty sure they'll just say SEptic doesn't know what he is doing
[17:40] <Sicelo> that's a good start :)
[17:41] <SEptic> rofl!
[17:41] <Sicelo> better than not knowing
[17:41] <SEptic> exactly
[17:41] <SEptic> i certainly am learning a lot
[17:45] <SEptic> odd that it's specific to wifi only
[17:45] <SEptic> cabled and usb tethering work no problems
[17:51] <SEptic> i found the logs ^_^
[17:59] <pavlushka> ahoy ZA!
[18:22] <magespawn> good evening
[18:23] <magespawn> ssh root@empcountryclub.no-ip.biz
[18:23] <magespawn> well they went in the wrong place
[18:23] <magespawn> that
[18:28] <gremble> You should probably disallow root login with SSH :P
[18:28] <gremble> That's also what she said
[18:29] <magespawn> indeed gremble, not my system anymore though
[18:29] <magespawn> and not type the dyndns in a chat window either
[18:36] <SEptic> ok, i'm getting closer
[18:37] <SEptic> i can connect to open wifi networks without passwords
[18:37] <SEptic> enable passwords then it goes for a ball of smelly stuff
[18:38] <Kilos> ai!
[18:38] <magespawn> SEptic: on you linux machine?
[18:38] <magespawn> hi Kilos 
[18:38] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[18:40] <SEptic> a notification that pops up after attempting to connect to a hotspot or router says something about unable to send secrets or something
[18:40] <SEptic> magespawn: yup
[18:40] <SEptic> kubuntu 16.04
[18:40] <magespawn> okay then
[18:40] <Sicelo> toldya earlier
[18:40] <Sicelo> :p
[18:40] <SEptic> lol
[18:40] <magespawn> thats a new one for me
[18:40] <Sicelo> kde sucks! i miss gnome
[18:40] <Sicelo> i have got that error lots of times
[18:40] <Kilos> grrrrr
[18:40] <magespawn> why not use gnome?
[18:40] <Sicelo> 19:06 < Sicelo> and if you're on KDE, check if the password wallet is 'open' .. one of the annoyances that make me wish to go back to Gnome asap
[18:41] <SEptic> "no secrets were provided"
[18:41] <Sicelo> SEptic: check your password wallet .. you may have to logout/login
[18:41] <SEptic> ah! ok just a sec
[18:43] <SEptic> hmmm
[18:43] <SEptic> looks like wallet manager seems to be going tits up
[18:43] <Sicelo> yup.
[18:44] <Sicelo> (i'm not on ubuntu btw)
[18:44] <SEptic> hectic
[18:46] <Kilos> i dont use that wallet thing at all
[18:47] <gremble> I would use a wallet... if I had money
[18:47] <Kilos> lol
[18:49] <Sicelo> it doesn't look like you have to explicitly use it -- it's always there in the background protecting any passwords you save in the machine. it's a good feature tbh, _when it works_
[18:52] <Kilos> btw i will only be online tomorrow night guys. going to apply for pension tomorrow
[18:52] <Kilos> be good
[18:52] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[18:52] <Sicelo> all the best man
[18:53] <Kilos> ty
[18:53] <magespawn> good night Kilos 
[18:54] <magespawn> don't correct a typo when saying good night, by then he is gone
[18:55] <SEptic> "wallet is currently closed"
[18:55] <SEptic> i click open and nothing happens
[18:56] <SEptic> unless i disable the wallet subsystem
[18:57] <magespawn> good luck SEptic 
[18:57] <magespawn> good night all
[18:59] <SEptic> time to P A R T Y 
[18:59] <SEptic> my wifi stuffs is all working now :)
[19:00] <Sicelo> yay!
[19:00] <SEptic> Sicelo for president!
[19:00] <SEptic> i basically disabled the wallet system and rebooted
[19:01] <SEptic> it makes sense now why it would give the error that it couldnt give out the wifi passwords
[19:01] <SEptic> coz of the wallet stuff going funky
[19:01] <Sicelo> wallet locked with heavy padlock :p
[19:02] <SEptic> so i guess other option is to setup the wallet system completely or maar disable it
[19:02] <SEptic> lol
[19:05] <SEptic> wow, blows my mind
[19:05] <SEptic> ok, but i'm learning
[19:06] <Sicelo> ;)
[19:07] <SEptic> ty for the help
[19:07] <Sicelo> yw
[19:51] <ra1v3n> Goodnight