[00:46] <Unit193> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2016-July/039465.html in case you didn't see.
[00:49] <bluesabre> Unit193: thanks for the link
[06:43] <flocculant> Unit193: perhaps that's why the dropbox one is failing then *shrug*
[06:48] <Unit193> nm-applet too?
[06:49] <flocculant> Unit193: that appears to be there 
[06:49] <Unit193> Hmm.  Didn't in VM, not updating yet on real. :P
[06:49] <flocculant> I don't actually have a use for it so don't fiddle with it ever
[07:14] <flocculant> gtk320 looks ok on install now - still fubar locally for some reason ?
[07:14] <flocculant> guessing difference between real and ppa there :)
[09:05] <astraljava> Wonder if a version update made it better.
[09:06] <astraljava> Oops, sorry wrong channel.
[11:05] <flocculant> akxwi-dave: didn't get time to check much but gtk320 looks ok on installs now - at least catfish and menulibre do 
[11:12] <flocculant> akxwi-dave: might be in a rush tomorrow to get some trusty smoketests done as well - respin for xorg/nvidia implosions apparently
[11:57] <akxwi-dave> flocc
[11:58] <akxwi-dave> flocculant, no probs
[12:26] <akxwi-dave> flocculant, I am assuming that they will show ok in tomorrows ISO's?  In todays they still look bad..
[12:55] <flocculant> akxwi-dave: not sure wth is going on then - because today's iso looks ok here - perhaps ok on kvm *shrug*
[12:57] <akxwi-dave> i've done one on Vbox and the other on Vmware...  will do it tonight on Real.. also will try to get the .5 respin on real as well.. thats due tomorrow aint it.. if so I can rush a real thru at around 7pm on thurs if needed#
[15:00] <flocculant> akxwi-dave: late thurs will be too late 
[15:00] <flocculant> I'm not that panicked by trusty anyway tbh
[15:01] <akxwi-dave> :-)
[15:01] <flocculant> any bugs that there are won't be ours 
[15:02] <flocculant> also looking at -release respins should start soonish - hopefully there'll be one this evening - I can beat a hardware install out tonight with luck
[15:03] <flocculant> akxwi-dave: also ... /join #ubuntu-release ;)
[15:04] <akxwi-dave> already there.. :-)
[15:06] <flocculant> didn't see you - sorry :)
[15:07] <flocculant> akxwi-dave: so are you saying you still see oddities on yak from gtk3.20?
[15:07] <akxwi-dave> yep, can grab a screenie if you need..
[15:08] <flocculant> no need - I'll boot on hardware then :)
[15:09] <akxwi-dave> kk.. i'll also do a boot tonight on a lappie, one has Nvidia other AMD 
[15:11] <flocculant> ok - well I'm always nvidia
[15:11] <flocculant> or intel if I'm brave
[15:12] <akxwi-dave> i used to be AMD desktop and Nvidia Laptop.. But bought a GTX960 for the desktop.. and that lappy I repaired has AMD in now
[15:12] <flocculant> :)
[15:14] <akxwi-dave> flocculant, started on the idiots guide for testing.. http://imgur.com/S8yfqX5
[15:15] <flocculant> nice one akxwi-dave :)
[15:15] <flocculant> that's the sort of thing I wanted to do - but got put off because hardly anyone reporting ;)
[15:16] <akxwi-dave> if we can make it easier for people to do then all we can do is try
[15:16] <flocculant> we can have a chat with knome - but might be useful to have that wikified - we can do that at 'our' wiki rather than ubuntu one too if we think that's best
[15:17] <flocculant> chat with knome would be about our wiki or ubuntu one ofc
[15:48] <flocculant> akxwi-dave: so if you boot the xenial iso instead of a yak one - everything looks fine ...
[15:49] <akxwi-dave> yep still have a xenial VM installed at the moment.. I'll get you a side by side
[15:50] <flocculant> akxwi-dave: no need :)
[15:50] <flocculant> the yak iso is still yuk not yak \o/
[15:50] <akxwi-dave> lol
[15:56] <akxwi-dave> also just noticed that on Yak it dont let me resize em
[16:02] <akxwi-dave> http://imgur.com/S8yfqX5
[16:02] <akxwi-dave> http://imgur.com/tDIINPu
[16:03] <akxwi-dave> ignore first one
[16:03] <akxwi-dave> http://imgur.com/OCpb3jN
[16:03] <akxwi-dave> http://imgur.com/xxnbbwd
[19:10] <knome> flocculant, (too bad dave left, but) my gut feeling is "contributor docs", but sure, i guess the wiki is fine too
[19:11] <knome> that said, i should make sure the media upload stuff doesn't look like crap (as it does now)
[19:12] <flocculant> knome: not sure about loads of images in cont docs tbh
[19:13] <knome> if the idiots (not my choice of word) will not understand it without, then i think we should have images...
[19:13] <knome> there are two things to that:
[19:13] <knome> 1) i think everybody should understand most things without images, as long as they are instructed well (and the UI lets them find stuff)
[19:14] <knome> 2) the UI should be easy enough that those idiots (again not my word) can find the information in it without too much holding hands (and/or images)
[19:14] <knome> but if we feel like images are needed, then sure, they can be in the contributor docs as well
[19:14] <flocculant> trouble with docs is if we need a quick change to image - not happening there is it
[19:14] <knome> the contributor docs are only online, so it's pretty swift.
[19:15] <flocculant> no it's not ;)
[19:15] <knome> ATM we have at least me an pleia2 who have access to the server, and Unit193 too
[19:15] <knome> (i think...)
[19:15] <flocculant> and on wiki - it can be changed without worrying about finding someone
[19:16] <knome> sure...
[19:17] <knome> though ultimately, i prefer how well the docs are (always) formatted, how easy it is to make a PDF version of them, how easy it is to translate them, etc. over the wiki
[19:17] <knome> and i think we should bang the contributor docs much more in our marketing that we are doing now (and prefer it over the wiki)
[19:17] <knome> yes, it's more maintenance (but tbh, at this point, not too much)
[19:18] <flocculant> well - in a couple of months all pretty moot
[19:18] <knome> why so?
[19:18] <flocculant> akwxi willl be qa lead :p
[19:18] <knome> so why is content created at that point moot?
[19:18] <flocculant> where
[19:19] <knome> anywhere?
[19:19] <knome> my main idea with everything we set up is that it can be passed on to new leaders and contributors without having to explain too much stuff
[19:19] <knome> so why would something be useless if a leader changes?
[19:20] <knome> (and isn't dave the one who's working on the guide anyway)
[19:20] <flocculant> because you might be able to browbeat dave into putting that on docs - woun't work with me :)
[19:20] <knome> i'm not going to say what you can or can't do
[19:20] <knome> so please don't take this as such
[19:21] <flocculant> I'm not
[19:21] <knome> i'm just giving my opinion as you were from my POV asking it
[19:21] <flocculant> actually if you read what I said - the choice was our wiki or the ubuntu one :)
[19:21] <knome> aha.
[19:22] <knome> well... i guess i don't mind choices too much, just think what's the best :P
[19:23] <knome> being limited to those choices, then i'd say the question is if it's generic enough to be appropriate for all flavors (ubuntu wiki) or specific enough to be useful only for xubuntu people (our wiki)
[19:23] <knome> and if the former, then i'd recommend being in touch with other flavor people *once you have the content ready on the wiki* to see if they want to add something, and to let them let their people know about the page(s)
[19:24] <flocculant> obviously I don't have a problem with the qa docs pages - I wrote what we have, and that is probably qty wise the same as the rest put together :)
[19:24] <knome> indeed
[19:24] <flocculant> anyway - bit midweekish now - might bbl
[19:25] <knome> there's a few things that should be put on the docs for website for example, but that's not high priority (as it's pretty clear on LP already)
[19:25] <knome> yeah, good night if not :)
[19:29] <flocculant> :)
[19:31] <flocculant> bluesabre: 32 bit trusty done again
[19:37] <knome> tv time
[20:56] <Unit193> knome: Yep, though I'm just a backup.
[21:05] <knome> Unit193, sure, i was mostly pointing out that we DO HAVE the backups in case either me or pleia2 isn't around.
[21:35] <bluesabre> evening all
[21:35] <Unit193> Howdy, bluesabre.
[21:35] <bluesabre> hey Unit193 
[21:36] <knome> oi.
[21:37] <flocculant> evening bluesabre 
[21:40] <bluesabre> hey knome 
[21:40] <bluesabre> key flocculant 
[21:40] <bluesabre> How's it going?
[21:40] <flocculant> a bit keyed up 
[21:41] <flocculant> :p
[21:41] <bluesabre> :D
[21:42] <flocculant> bluesabre: set meeting for week friday at 2000 utc - just waiting on one response to the council mail - almost a full house :)
[21:43] <bluesabre> woo!
[21:43] <knome> so almost three of a kind and a pair?
[21:43] <bluesabre> probably can't make that, but let's see what happens then
[21:44] <knome> i probably can
[21:44] <knome> (and who cares of bluesabre anyway)
[21:44] <bluesabre> precisely
[21:44] <knome> bluesabre, i'm just kidding, i love you
[21:44] <knome> (not in the wrong way)
[21:45]  * bluesabre knows its all about the code
[21:45] <knome> ;)