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acheronuktsimonq2: that's half way there then00:00
santa_tsimonq2: I have the impression you just have to do quilt push && quilt refresh for each one of the patches with fuzz00:01
acheronuksometimes.....00:02
acheronuksometimes not so easy..00:03
santa_acheronuk: I know, in this case with my stuff here against git they refresh fine00:04
acheronukI'll have a look what's happened with them in the morning00:16
acheronukFor now. goodnight :)00:16
tsimonq2AHHHHHHHH NOO WHYYYYY Project merger_kde-baseapps build #18: FAILURE00:17
acheronuktrying to checkout a revision that no longer exists00:21
tsimonq2yeah I'll fix it...00:21
acheronukjust make sure that the patchs after modification either (a) do what they were intended to or (b) are removed disabled if now defunct00:23
tsimonq2acheronuk: I'm keeping that in mind ;)00:23
tsimonq2acheronuk: thanks though00:24
acheronukI know that's stating the obvious, but with forcing things and quilt refresh, it's easy to end up with empty patches00:24
acheronukOk. Goodnight00:25
tsimonq2:) o/00:25
santa_tsimonq2: I would like to know how you could reproduce it locally, apparently I can't tell here dpkg-source to fail on patches with fuzz00:27
santa_allegedly it does that by default00:27
tsimonq2santa_: I'm using sbuild00:28
tsimonq2YES I think I did it!00:41
tsimonq2come on00:41
tsimonq2go go go go GO!00:41
tsimonq2:(\00:56
tsimonq2^ I'm working on fixing that now01:17
santa_regarding this commit: https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/kde-baseapps/commit/?id=c6d67e5ff88332f34f11ef3d4ddaaa213b90516601:22
santa_tsimonq2: ↑ are you sure this is what you actually want to do?01:22
tsimonq2santa_: what about it?01:22
santa_because kubuntu_folderview_livecd_directory.diff is gone which seems refreshable here01:23
santa_also01:23
tsimonq2oh okay, really?01:23
tsimonq2after I fix the build errors I'll restore01:23
santa_kubuntu_folderwidget_drawing.diff and kubuntu_disable-failing-test.diff are also disabled in debian/patches/series01:24
tsimonq2...no?01:25
santa_and kubuntu_ignore-tests.diff is now on top, it seems there is no need to do that01:25
santa_tsimonq2: just see the diff of the link I pasted01:25
tsimonq2...you cloned from the Git source and are using a fresh Git clone?01:25
santa_I think so01:26
santa_and according to what I tested here to get the patches applied without fuzz it was enough to do "quilt push && quilt refresh" on each patch having fuzz01:27
santa_the orig.tar.xz I'm using is a tarball created with latest upstream code from Applications/16.08 from kde's git01:28
tsimonq2oh k01:28
tsimonq2let's see01:28
santa_the packaging I'm checking is the latest in the kubuntu_unstable branch01:28
tsimonq2pull some changes I just made please01:28
tsimonq2santa_: would you like to fix it? if you push it somewhere I can pull from your changes01:30
santa_tsimonq2: I see them, but the stuff with the patches I described is still there01:31
tsimonq2santa_: I know, my changes were just dep fixes01:32
santa_tsimonq2: what if I guide you towards fixing it? so you deal with quilt properly01:32
tsimonq2santa_: sure01:32
tsimonq2what do I need set up?01:32
santa_tsimonq2: ok, revert the commit where you touched the patches in your local clone and paste me the result of git show01:33
santa_tsimonq2: the hash of the commit in question is c6d67e5ff88332f34f11ef3d4ddaaa213b90516601:34
tsimonq2santa_: so literally git revert HASH ?01:35
santa_tsimonq2: git revert c6d67e5ff88332f34f11ef3d4ddaaa213b90516601:35
santa_if that's what you mean01:35
tsimonq2yeah01:36
santa_so we can re-do it easily01:36
tsimonq2$ git show | pastebinit01:36
tsimonq2http://paste.ubuntu.com/22113039/01:36
santa_allright. now let's do it properly01:37
santa_tsimonq2: now inside the git clone of the packaging "git clean -xdff" then "tar xvf ../kde-baseapps_16.04.3.orig.tar.gz --strip=1"01:38
santa_so we have the proper upstream source code01:39
tsimonq2yup01:39
tsimonq2done01:39
santa_tsimonq2: so now if you do a "quilt push -a" you must get something like this https://paste.kde.org/phkdrbmle01:40
santa_can you confirm this is correct?01:40
tsimonq2wrong01:41
tsimonq2http://paste.ubuntu.com/22113666/01:41
tsimonq2hmm01:42
santa_ohh01:42
tsimonq2santa_: where did your upstream tar come from?01:42
santa_so we have something different here01:42
tsimonq2yeah01:42
santa_from kde's git, branch Applications/16.0801:42
tsimonq2I don't think it pulls from that01:43
tsimonq2I'm pulling from master01:43
santa_and the kci pulls from master to create the tarballs?01:43
tsimonq2I believe so01:44
santa_tsimonq2: lets work on that asumption then, let me recreate my tarball to see what's up actually01:47
tsimonq2alright01:47
tsimonq2santa_: I'm really sorry but I have to go to bed01:48
tsimonq2I'm really tired01:48
tsimonq2santa_: if you leave me something for tomorrow, I'll be sure to take a look01:49
santa_tsimonq2: allrigh, I'm investigating the thing01:51
santa_ok, just for the record02:12
santa_this is the impression I have after a quick look (needs more proper investigation)02:13
santa_enable_debianabimanager.diff - must be refreshed02:13
santa_enable_dlrestrictions.diff - must be refreshed02:13
santa_kubuntu_folderview_livecd_directory.diff - this patch patches something which doesn't exist anymore in -baseapps, but may be needed to apply it in other package or other file02:15
santa_kubuntu_folderwidget_drawing.diff - same as the previous one02:15
santa_kubuntu_disable-failing-test.diff - I think this one should be dropped, because the test in question doesn't exist anyore, not even in the file lib/konq/autotests/CMakeLists.txt02:17
santa_kubuntu_ignore-tests.diff - I have the impression this one should be dropped too, because...02:19
santa_Description: ignore failing tests02:19
santa_ ignore tests failing due to switch to plasma 502:19
santa_Author: Jonathan Riddell02:19
santa_Origin: me02:19
santa_Forwarded: nope02:19
santa_Last-Update: 2015-09-0102:19
santa_it says in the description the tests fail due to plasma 5, but apparently the test were ported to frameworks02:20
santa_* the tests02:20
santa_disclaimer: all what I wrote above is based on the assumption that KCI grabs the source code from kde's git master02:21
santa_whenever you wake up, yofel ↑02:22
santa_context: patches of kde-baseapps/kubuntu_unstable they don't apply well anymore, making the KCI fail02:23
acheronuksanta_ tsimonq2 yes, unstable is builds of master07:12
acheronukthink yofl said he is trying to work out how to reinstate stable branch builds on KCI07:13
yofelreminder: 14.04.5 needs testing http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/365/builds07:37
acheronukDLing now to test install in VirtualBox07:45
lordievaderGood morning.07:51
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BluesKaj'Morning folks11:11
soeehiho BluesKaj11:18
BluesKajHey soee11:20
jimarvanaaand hello :)11:38
clivejohi jimbo!11:39
IrcsomeBot1<tsimonq2> Morning!11:40
acheronukafternoon :)11:40
IrcsomeBot1<tsimonq2> Feels good to be back on a US time zone!11:40
IrcsomeBot1<tsimonq2> :D11:40
IrcsomeBot1<Sick_Rimmit> \o/11:40
IrcsomeBot1<Sick_Rimmit> Hi there..11:41
acheronukHi Rick :)11:41
IrcsomeBot1<tsimonq2> (sleep schedule, I didn't travel anywhere :P)11:41
IrcsomeBot1<tsimonq2> Hey Rick!11:41
IrcsomeBot1<tsimonq2> How are you?11:41
yofelPST or EST? ^^11:42
IrcsomeBot1<tsimonq2> CDT11:42
IrcsomeBot1<tsimonq2> So an hour before EDT11:43
yofeloh right, it's summer11:43
acheronukclivejo: you said you are packaging kdiagram?11:46
clivejoacheronuk: nods11:46
acheronukgreat :)11:46
clivejoI was attempting it11:46
clivejoI need a chroot11:46
clivejohttps://launchpadlibrarian.net/276641695/buildlog_ubuntu-yakkety-amd64.kdiagram_2.6.0-1ubuntu1~ubuntu16.10~ppa1_BUILDING.txt.gz11:46
clivejoI cant remember what packages contain what 11:48
acheronukI git cloned the kde repo and built that, and it just built straight off with whatever -dev packages happened by chance to be on this machine, so looks nothing too complicated11:49
acheronukFailed call: qmake-qt5 -query "QT_INSTALL_PLUGINS"11:53
clivejosame here11:53
acheronukis that qtchooser? I can't recall just this sec?11:53
clivejoit built fine locally11:53
clivejoand I cant remember how to configure a new pbuild11:54
clivejoand of course the instructions are a great help11:54
acheronukI had that same error in something a couple of weeks ago, and damned if I can recall what!11:55
acheronukmaybe one of the packages that ported to KF5?11:55
acheronukthe same? https://launchpadlibrarian.net/274921440/buildlog_ubuntu-yakkety-amd64.kolourpaint_4%3A16.04.3+p16.10+git20160725.0750-0_BUILDING.txt.gz11:59
clivejoyes11:59
clivejoits needs qtbase5-dev?12:00
acheronuknot quite "QT_INSTALL_PLUGINS" vs "QT_INSTALL_PREFIX"12:00
acheronukbut this sorted my one https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/kolourpaint/commit/?h=kubuntu_unstable&id=e85e0616c75d20ecde7f2138100537e6af84160e12:01
clivejoIm "trying" to create a chroot locally12:02
clivejoits not going well12:02
acheronukqtbase5-dev at least, as I seem to recall they did port to qt512:02
acheronuknot well, how?12:02
* clivejo kicks pathetically slow internet12:02
acheronukoh. that!12:03
acheronuklinode?12:03
clivejoI cant work properly from Linode12:03
acheronukshame12:03
clivejoI dont want to upload my keys to it :/12:03
clivejonot that I dont trust yofel12:04
acheronukshh or gpg? or both?12:04
clivejoI have my machine configured how I like it12:04
clivejoand I need a local chroot12:05
acheronuktrue. It was a slight faff to sort even a local reinstall the other week, even being able to copy config files straight over12:05
clivejojust instructions for how to set it up are so confusing12:05
clivejoinstructions are all over the place12:06
clivejowe need a set of instruction for just Kubuntu12:06
acheronukthat is pretty simple http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/chroots.html12:07
acheronukbut depends what you want to do12:08
clivejoI had a great set of tools for xenial12:08
clivejobut I cant seem to get it to work with yakkety12:08
acheronukeverything seems as it was, in place upgrading to YY here12:09
acheronukbut I bet if I tried to transfer to my laptop it would all go pear shaped12:10
clivejodo you have eatmydata installed?12:12
acheronukyes12:13
acheronukI think12:13
clivejois it working correctly in yakkety?12:13
clivejomy packages dont seem to be cached12:14
clivejoseems to want to download everytime12:14
* clivejo leaves it downloading and goes for some lunch12:15
acheronukI mostly use pbuilder-dist and get the cached on my home partition/folder12:15
acheronuksetting APTCACHEHARDLINK=no so it can link accross12:16
clivejowhere is that set?12:16
acheronuk.pbuilderrc12:17
clivejowhats the key combin to drop out of the pbuilder environment12:19
acheronukCTRL D12:19
clivejothanks!12:19
acheronukI've not got pbuilder set up quite the way the kubuntu docs said, but it works for me and I'm loathed to change it now12:20
acheronukbeside tweeks12:21
clivejooh I think that is working now12:24
clivejonot downloading all the packages everytime12:24
acheronuklast thing you would need on a slow connection!12:25
clivejoyup12:25
clivejoespecially as they are here locally12:26
IrcsomeBot1<tsimonq2> I use sbuild and apt-cacher-ng on my host system12:35
IrcsomeBot1<tsimonq2> Also, I can do SHM builds with it too12:36
IrcsomeBot1<tsimonq2> So if I already downloaded the package files and I have some RAM free (I have 16 gigs)  builds FLY12:37
IrcsomeBot1<tsimonq2> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SimpleSbuild has instructions12:37
IrcsomeBot1<tsimonq2> clivejo: ^12:38
IrcsomeBot1<tsimonq2> I set up a special KCI sbuild that I use that has the PPA enabled12:40
acheronukmust try that sometime12:44
IrcsomeBot1<tsimonq2> Must try now :P12:46
IrcsomeBot1<tsimonq2> Don't keep putting it off12:47
IrcsomeBot1<tsimonq2> It is absolutely amazing12:47
acheronukpbuilder is v swift here. limit is on cpu(s) not much else12:48
IrcsomeBot1<tsimonq2> v swift?12:49
acheronukquick12:53
* yofel has pbuilder with ppa on shm - works the same ^^12:54
yofelthough eatmydata is easier to do with sbuild12:54
yofelnot that it has much of an effect here ^^12:54
tsimonq2yofel: do you have apt-cacher-ng or something like it?12:55
acheronukif think any further tweaks I made here would only be marginal speedwise12:55
yofeltsimonq2: yes12:58
yofelI do occasionally use sbuild after all12:58
tsimonq2oh cool12:58
tsimonq2yofel: would you be able to confirm what santa_ said yesterday re: kde-baseapps ?13:08
yofeltsimonq2: regarding what exactly? I read the discussion and found it a bit confusing13:09
tsimonq2yofel: kde-baseapps was failing because of patch fuzz. I committed this, which I thought was correct: https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/kde-baseapps/commit/?h=kubuntu_unstable&id=c6d67e5ff88332f34f11ef3d4ddaaa213b90516613:12
tsimonq2yofel: santa_ stopped me and said that it wasn't correct13:12
tsimonq2yofel: he left some comments last night telling me what he believed should happen13:13
tsimonq2yofel: I'm all for fixing my mistake, I just want to understand why :)13:13
tsimonq2(if I even made a mistake)13:13
tsimonq2yofel: I'm asking, what's your opinion on this?13:14
yofelhm, so the debian abi manager fuzz part is correct13:16
tsimonq2great13:17
yofelhe does have a valid point about reordering series, please don't do that. It might work this time if the patches are independent from each other, but as soon as you need a patch order that would've broken something13:17
yofelit's also an unnecessary diff13:17
tsimonq2yeah, I must have did that when I was working with the patch locally, I'll revert that13:18
yofelrefreshing enable_dlrestrictions.diff isn't really neccessary, unless that has fuzz too. Offsets we don't usually refresh13:19
yofeloh THAT is where that folderview OEM patch was13:20
yofeltsimonq2: yes, that patch needs moving to plasma513:21
yofelonce someone finds out where13:21
santa_hi everyone13:21
tsimonq2hey santa_! we're just discussing kde-baseapps :)13:22
yofelthat's supposed to show you the "OEM setup" icon on the desktop after you did an OEM install13:22
tsimonq2oh yeah13:22
tsimonq2ok13:22
yofelwhich I think is missing currently?13:22
santa_yofel: as a possible stop in gap solution we could do this with the patches:13:22
santa_refresh the abi manager and dl restrictions, as it's obvious that ones must be refreshed13:23
santa_drop the ones disabling the tests as it seems they are not needed anymore13:23
yofelthat ignore-tests patch I'm not sure what to do with, does that even do anything?13:23
santa_that removes a test which doesn't exist anymore13:24
yofelkill it13:24
santa_as I mentioned yesterday13:24
santa_and regarding the foldevview patches we could comment them out temporarily13:24
yofelno, that can go, that's useless in that package and needs  to be added elsewhere13:25
yofelnot sure if in plasma-framework or plasma-workspace though13:25
santa_so delete them?13:25
yofelyes, esp. as the other one seems like a Qt4 workaround o.O?13:26
santa_oh, one cuestion more, the KCI grabs the upstream source code from git master right?13:26
yofelunstable == master, stable == branch (but those jobs are MIA)13:27
santa_allright13:27
santa_so at this point I could either:13:27
santa_a) prepare a merge request with the agreed changes to the -baseapps changes13:28
santa_b) mentor tsimonq2 to do it13:28
santa_whichever you prefer13:28
tsimonq2I'd kinda like #2 :)13:29
tsimonq2santa_: but there are a bunch more fuzz issues in KCI13:29
santa_I can help you with quilt if you are in trouble too13:30
tsimonq2yofel: so remove folderview, what about folderwidget?13:34
tsimonq2I assume I can remove that?13:35
yofelyes, that plasma widget isn't even in use anymore as that's kde413:35
tsimonq2alright13:35
santa_the only 2 ones which must survive are the abi manager and the dlrestrictions one iirc13:36
tsimonq2kubuntu_disable-failing-test.diff13:37
tsimonq2that seems outdated ^13:37
tsimonq2it can't find the input file13:37
santa_yes, that test doesn't exist anymore, that patch should be removed13:38
tsimonq2alright13:38
tsimonq2kubuntu_install_flash.diff is commented out, I can remove it, right?13:38
tsimonq2we also have upstream_Use-user-places.xbel-instead-of-bookmarks.xml-in-pla.patch but it's not in series13:40
tsimonq2can I remove those two?13:40
santa_I would leave the flash one like that for know, unless you want to investigate properly why it should be finally removed13:40
santa_the upstream one sounds safe to remove13:41
santa_tsimonq2: indeed the upstream one was already applied upstream according to debian/changelog, so I think it's safe to remove it13:42
tsimonq2great :)13:43
santa_probably someone forgot to "git rm" it after it was deleted from series13:43
tsimonq2santa_, yofel: how does this diff look? http://paste.ubuntu.com/22178816/13:46
santa_tsimonq2: if I'm not overlooking anything seems good - i.e. does what we discussed here13:48
soeeahoneybun: https://twitter.com/feralgames/status/76112726822774784013:49
IrcsomeBot1<ahoneybun> They are on fire13:51
IrcsomeBot1<ahoneybun> I've got 3 games that they ported13:51
clivejoyofel: are you enabling stable again in KCI?13:53
yofelclivejo: once I have a place to store the configuration, and the tooling can read that... yes13:56
yofelFor now I'll probably make that all a pre-source static configuration in kci.yaml, which should be fairly easy to adapt to13:56
tsimonq2pushed! \o/ https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/kde-baseapps/?h=kubuntu_unstable13:58
tsimonq2although I still think the build fails13:58
acheronukLOL ''So you tried to chicken out from symbol validation, not going to happen''13:59
tsimonq2ARGH14:01
clivejola la la la14:03
jimarvanlol14:03
tsimonq2o/ clivejo 14:04
* acheronuk hums a tune14:04
clivejodoh ray mee14:04
IrcsomeBot1<Sick_Rimmit> o/ Jimarvan14:04
clivejodoh14:05
jimarvanyo :)14:05
clivejodouble doh14:05
tsimonq2lol I'm listening to some Eminem loudly, I can't hear you singing lol14:05
acheronukhow many retries?14:06
tsimonq2hm?14:06
clivejogrrrr this IP camera is really annoying me now14:06
clivejopiece of *beep*14:07
yofelgrrrr https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=82954514:14
ubottuDebian bug 829545 in lintian "lintian: [PATCH] Do not complain about new Testsuite-Triggers in dsc." [Normal,Open]14:14
yofellet me cherry pick that14:14
tsimonq2ahoneybun: ping14:21
ahoneybunpong?14:21
tsimonq2ahoneybun: how did you build the code for the Kubuntu manual? (build)14:22
ahoneybunsphinx14:23
ahoneybunit is a python tool for making docs14:23
ahoneybunsphinx-doc.org14:23
tsimonq2it's an awesome idea14:23
ahoneybunis it?14:24
ahoneybunworks pretty well so far14:24
ahoneybun*worked14:24
tsimonq2ahoneybun: would I be able to fork it and customize it for Lubuntu?14:25
tsimonq2there's no license in it14:25
ahoneybunof course14:25
tsimonq2great! :)14:25
ahoneybunI should add that I guess14:25
ahoneybunGPL v3 would be best no?14:26
tsimonq2idk as long as I can fork :P14:26
ahoneybuntsimonq2: it's currently on a server like this: docs.kubuntu.org14:26
ahoneybunxubuntu has a similar server name but not sure what they used14:26
ahoneybunI think they used something else maybe latex14:28
ahoneybunbut it is html14:28
ahoneybuntsimonq2: the github page for the project has some links14:28
yofelI *think* kde usually goes with the GFDL for documentation https://www.gnu.org/licenses/fdl-1.3.en.html14:28
ahoneybunto the sphinx main page and rst 14:28
ahoneybunwhich is what the docs are written in14:29
ahoneybunthen a few scripts make html and such14:29
tsimonq2ahoneybun: I might not fork, but I'll see if I can at least use the same style, with your permission of course :P14:29
ahoneybunit can make pdf and epub as well14:29
ahoneybunthe site is using the bootstrap theme14:30
ahoneybunLN 107 and down: https://github.com/ahoneybun/kubuntu-manual/blob/master/source/conf.py14:31
ahoneybuntsimonq2: ^14:33
ahoneybunyofel: http://l10n.kde.org/docs/doc-primer/licenses.html14:34
ahoneybunyep14:34
ahoneybunthere added a license14:38
ahoneybunit allows modifing 14:38
acheronukyofel: is it the -c0 already there in override_dh_makeshlibs that is making this fail? http://kci.pangea.pub/view/yakkety%20FIX/job/yakkety_unstable_akonadi/lastFailedBuild/console14:55
yofelacheronuk: yes14:55
yofelcome to think of it, that should be a bit more descriptive....14:55
acheronukok. was looking at the ruby and couldn't quite see if that should fail it, or just give that message and carry on14:56
yofelacheronuk: yes it fails on that. We did use -c0 by default in the past, but today it's better to not have it when working on the release packages14:57
yofelI didn't think that anything would actually hit this.....14:58
acheronukunderstood. I just couldn't work out from the code if failure was the intention there14:59
acheronukyofel: ok. I was too dumb to notice the 'raise' part of that!15:02
tsimonq2ahoneybun: https://github.com/tsimonq2/lubuntu-manual15:12
IrcsomeBot1<ahoneybun> Cool cool15:30
IrcsomeBot1<ahoneybun> That @ symbol is wrong though15:30
IrcsomeBot1<tsimonq2> hm?15:30
IrcsomeBot1<ahoneybun> The @ messes up the link15:33
tsimonq2ahoneybun: Telegram did that15:54
IrcsomeBot1<ahoneybun> Mm yea most likelu15:54
acheronukthink this needs a new library package adding? libKF5MimeTreeParser https://launchpadlibrarian.net/276563376/buildlog_ubuntu-xenial-amd64.kf5-messagelib_4%3A16.04.3+p16.04+git20160803.1459-0_BUILDING.txt.gz16:43
jimarvansee ya later peeps :D18:48
jimarvananother hard working day ;)18:48
jimarvanlol 19:48 jeez...18:48
IrcsomeBot1<tsimonq2> o/18:49
jimarvanneed a swim :P18:49
jimarvanCIAO18:49
acheronukkf5-messagelib seems to require 2 new library and associated -dev packages for libkf5webengineviewer5 & libkf5mimetreeparser519:49
acheronukQ1. they don't seem to have moved any functions from the existing libraries into those, so I presume they should start afresh with their own new symbol files?19:49
acheronukQ2. if so, then considering that these new libraries are in both master and 16.08 branches, using pkgkde-gensymbols would we still version them initially as 16.04.3+git$date if we are doing this for KCI?19:49
jimarvanand back :D20:33
tsimonq2o/20:33
jimarvanhi simon :)20:34
acheronukhi jim20:38
tsimonq2hey rik20:39
jimarvanhey rik :D20:39
santa_acheronuk: if they are completely new it's ok to start new symbols files. the initial version doesn't matter, as long as it <= than the initial version20:39
santa_ugh20:40
santa_let me reword it20:40
santa_acheronuk: if they are completely new it's ok to start new symbols files. the initial version of the symbols in the symbols file doesn't matter, as long as it <= than the initial version of the package in the archive20:40
santa_so replying directly to Q2, yes20:40
acheronukok. thanks20:41
clivejo:(21:22
clivejowhat happened KCI21:22
tsimonq2be more specific?21:23
clivejoit was down to about 14 failures21:23
clivejoand on one screen21:23
acheronukyofl restored the post publishing checks.21:28
soeeyoda not yofl :D21:29
soeesomeone is using kmail 16.04 ?21:29
ahoneybunnope broken and too big21:29
ahoneybunbuggy as well21:29
clivejoI used it in 16.0421:35
soeeahoneybun: works pretty good except is it so slow 21:37
soeeopening message 3-4 secons21:37
soeedeleting it the same21:37
IrcsomeBot1<ahoneybun> locks up for me sometimes too21:37
soeeahoneybun: seen warhammer announcement ? :)21:40
jimarvankmail does not work with gmail well :(21:40
ahoneybunyou posted it to me21:40
jimarvanso no not using it either21:40
ahoneybunI only use gmail21:40
ahoneybunso that's a problem21:41
ahoneybunwhich is why I was looking at trojita21:41
jimarvanI have very strong knowledge of google api now21:41
jimarvanI would love to touch kmail a bit :/21:41
ahoneybunmm21:41
jimarvanif I had the f*** time21:41
jimarvan:)21:42
ahoneybunI'd love for someone to fix that bug on the login21:42
jimarvanI know21:42
ahoneybunwhen making an account21:42
jimarvanyeap21:42
jimarvanI have learned how to use https://www.accountchooser.com/learnmore.html21:42
jimarvanso I know how to use google login and others21:42
tsimonq2.or21:43
tsimonq2whoops sorry21:43
jimarvangoogle's own account chooser is out of date21:43
jimarvanthe code example they have21:43
jimarvanat least it was 3 months ago I was researching21:43
jimarvanthe trick is to use Ubuntu's online accounts authentication21:44
jimarvandirectly into Kmail21:44
jimarvanit was broken in telepathy for 15.xx but it was fixed in 16.0421:44
jimarvanso it should be physible to do it in Kmail too ;)21:44
jimarvananywho, going to bed! as always exhausted :)))21:45
jimarvansee ya peeps, have fun and thank you for been awesome! :D21:46
soeehah i'm also like that atm. https://goo.gl/V3HKF821:47
tsimonq2lol I'm like https://v.gd/OrRF8e21:49
tsimonq2except those are empty :P21:50
acheronuklol21:50
soeedon't drink that shit :/21:50
tsimonq2soee: I've had it...not again for a while... lol21:50
tsimonq2I was bouncing off the walls batshit insane21:51
soee(:21:51
IrcsomeBot1<ahoneybun> We have to follow the CoC on language22:18
IrcsomeBot1<tsimonq2> I'm sorry22:18
acheronukAll that GREEN. Lost..........! :(22:58
valorieblame yofel!22:59
valoriewe'll get it done, I think23:00
valoriefundamental fixes happening that will make everything a lot smoother and better23:00
tsimonq2valorie: http://blamepopey.com/23:00
tsimonq2that's a thing :P23:00
tsimonq2we should make one for yofel XD23:01
acheronukyes. we've just 'leveled up' on the fixing game!23:01
valorietsimonq2: lol23:01
acheronuknext level. nastier, and meaner23:01
valoriewith more rubies!23:01
tsimonq2NOOOO23:01
tsimonq2NO MORE RUBIES23:01
tsimonq2:P23:01
valorielol23:02
tsimonq2let's get some Pythons in here :D23:02
* valorie had to go out and buy a new backup HD23:02
valoriethis one, 3 terrabytes!23:02
valorieabout to quit, back up konvi logs and upgrade......23:02
tsimonq2that's triple my only drive!23:03
tsimonq2:O23:03
valorielast one was 1.5 Tb for about the same price23:04
valoriethey keep doubling in capacity for the same price23:04
valorieI also found out that my $HOME was 94% full23:05
acheronukthey do, and SSDs are cheap now as well for a decent size23:05
valoriebecause not only did I have ~/Music but also ~/Music/Music23:05
tsimonq2/dev/sda2                           197G  162G   26G  87% /home O___O23:05
valoriewith the same music!23:05
tsimonq2I'm using 87%23:05
valorienow down to 81% with all those extra tunes deleted23:06
valorieI have a DATA drive I could move the music to.....23:06
acheronuk240GB SSD here, with two 1TB HDDs23:06
valorieSysinfo for 'valorie-GT60-2PC': Running inside KDE Plasma 5.6.3 on Ubuntu 16.10 (Yakkety Yak) powered by Linux 4.4.0-23-generic, CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4810MQ CPU @ 2.80GHz at 2800-3607/3800 MHz, RAM: 23642/24030 MB, Storage: 686/3944 GB, 329 procs, 964.23h up23:06
valorieit's an awesome lappy23:06
valorieson's "old" gaming laptop23:06
* clivejo gets a bad cause of tech evy23:07
clivejocase23:07
clivejoeveryone else is sooo much bigger23:07
valoriecould someone use another SSD?23:08
valorieI have a used one I can remove from my broken laptop and bring to Akademy23:08
* clivejo wouldnt say no23:08
valoriecool23:08
clivejois it decent?23:09
valorieI'll figure out how big they are and ask again23:09
valoriethe drives are both good23:09
valorienot their fault I broke the hinge23:09
clivejobuilding stuff can kill an SSD23:09
valorieI didn't build much on that laptop23:09
valorietried to build Amarok once I think23:10
clivejoLOL that all?23:10
valoriei'm not a packager!23:10
valorieanyway, it's free so you can use it until it fails and then toss it without regret23:10
tsimonq2valorie: I can't come to Akademy but I really want an SSD :(23:11
valorietsimonq2: I might have a smaller one too23:12
valorieI will look23:12
valoriethe broken laptops gotta be parted out23:12
valorieinstead of stacking up23:12
valoriewoah this is a big upgrade23:13
valorieand full-upgrade still not available on YY?23:13
valoriedist-upgrade will have to do23:13
valorietsimonq2: I'll see what I can do23:15
valorieok, restarting23:17
tsimonq2valorie: thanks :)23:18
valoriekonvi had to be apt -f installed23:25
valorieeverything else was just awesomely smooth23:25
ahoneybunmm I know using do-release-upgrade -d broke my laptop23:29
ahoneybuncould really use those fixes for dual screen work23:29
ahoneybunvalorie: did you upgrade from xenail or do a fresh from a daily image?23:30
valorieupgraded YY23:32
valoriehaven't shut down or upgraded for a month or two23:33
ahoneybunupgrade to YY from XX?23:33
ahoneybunoh23:33
valoriejust from YY to YY23:33
valoriehuge list of upgraded packages though23:33
ahoneybuntbh I'm tempted to use GNOME on my desktop or something else as this machine is slow at times23:34
tsimonq2yay global 14.04.5 is out!23:34
ahoneybunI don't think we have one23:34
tsimonq2I meant global23:34
tsimonq2I meant global23:35
tsimonq2there finally :P23:35
clivejowow 128 executors on linode!23:35
* clivejo mouth drops23:35
ahoneybunmm23:36
clivejo4+128+4823:36
acheronukhmmm. that could kill LP and kde git in one easy step!23:36
clivejowe've got sycamores protecting KDE23:37
yofelnah, git is throttled to one-at-a-time, and LP uploads now have working retries and are attempted 10 times23:37
yofel*should* work ^^23:37
clivejoLP is half dead anyways23:37
acheronukI was kidding23:37
yofelonce stable jobs are back, we need this amount of builders, so lets see how this goes23:38
clivejoyofel: what have you done thats failing all these jobs?!?23:38
yofelclivejo: uh, fixed the build log parser?23:38
ahoneybunis the installer still broken?23:38
clivejoThe fix list was so small yesterday 23:38
yofelthough, a lot of that "unstable" is from a bug in lintian :(23:39
clivejonow its huge :(23:39
acheronukahoneybun: on YY? define broke23:39
ahoneybundoes not work?23:39
yofelas in, how?23:39
clivejoLOL23:39
acheronukit works to install23:39
ahoneybundoes it install at all?>23:39
acheronukYY? yes23:39
ahoneybunmm23:41
acheronukahoneybun: but at the moment you'd need to add some ppas post install to sort some issues out 23:41
ahoneybunthat does not sound like fun23:41
clivejoeakk23:43
clivejoW: ark: spelling-error-in-changelog seperator separator23:43
clivejoW: ark: spelling-error-in-changelog overide override23:43
clivejoSimon do you work on Lintian?23:44
valorieacheronuk: which PPAs should be added?23:46
valorieI didn't add any23:46
tsimonq2clivejo: ping if you need me, don't just say my first name :P23:47
tsimonq2clivejo: and what do you mean by that?23:47
acheronukI have the staging-plasma and staging-kdeapplications ppas enabled on YY23:47
clivejoyou are very knit pickie on spelling23:48
clivejoand so is Lintian23:48
acheronukI presume clivejo is running much the same?23:48
clivejoyup23:48
clivejoPlasma 5.7.2 and Apps 16.04.323:48
acheronukso far the worst bug I've had is https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36253123:49
ubottuKDE bug 362531 in Panel "Plasma panels are not transparent after login" [Normal,Resolved: fixed]23:49
clivejooh thats a nasty bug!23:49
clivejohow can you live with that!23:49
acheronukI soldier on bravely....23:50
ahoneybunwhere are the XX builds...23:50
clivejoin the backports script23:51
ahoneybunis there anything in the backport-landing?23:51
clivejoPlasma 5.6.5 I believe 23:52
ahoneybunbut that;s in backports too23:52
clivejoyes23:52
acheronukI'm done I think. Goodnight all :D23:53
clivejogood night Rik23:53
valorieI'm a bit leery about running staging PPAs on my main system23:53
clivejovalorie: understandable23:54
valoriealthough if I had been smart I probably wouldn't be running YY yet23:54
valoriemy son was very disapproving23:54
valorielol23:54
clivejoyou are helping the cause23:54
* ahoneybun backs things up23:54
clivejowe need testers23:54
ahoneybunI can't just reinstalling though23:55
ahoneybunkeep reinstalling23:55
ahoneybunmm23:55
clivejotsimonq2: are you up to much?23:56
valorieperhaps I should move ~/Music over to DATA drive so there is enough room for another VM or so 23:56
tsimonq2clivejo: releasing Lubuntu 14.04.5 then finishing a spec for the Lubuntu Manual, why?23:56
clivejojust curious, could use some help fixing some of these KCI complaints23:57
tsimonq2shoot them my way and I'll take a look when I get a min23:57
valorietsimonq2: you are release manager for lubuntu?23:59

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