[00:32] <nico_> any one home?
[01:08] <book> Hey Guys, what devices are you using Ubuntu Mate on?  I'm on a fanless latitude 3150 and im loving it.  100 times better than a chromebook!
[01:10] <book> any humans in here?
[01:11] <book> pornbots?
[01:11] <book> humans with pornbot intentions?
[01:15] <featherstone> book: samsung netbook and raspberry pi 2 & 3
[01:16] <book> nice, sounds delicious!
[01:16] <book> how well does it run on on your samsung netbook?
[01:17] <featherstone> everything runs great except Chrome and Firefox are a little sluggish
[01:19] <featherstone> which isn't bad for 2 gbs of ram and a 1st gen atom chip
[01:24] <bennabiy> YankDownUnder: It would have to be quite something that everything else appears except that one program.
[01:26] <YankDownUnder> bennabiy: Something missing? Something additional? Part of an "extras"?
[01:28] <book> ahh ok, featherstone.  that seems sweet.
[01:29] <book> i run dual core atom 330s, for my 1TB ownCloud server and another for my OpenVPN and Mopidy server.
[01:32] <YankDownUnder> 1tb...hmm...I've got 8tb, about to go shopping for another 4tb...can never have enough storage...
[01:34] <ouroumov> book, that 3150 is from the processor model?
[01:34] <ouroumov> (Intel Celeron N3150?)
[01:37] <book> Celeron N3540 - Quad core
[01:37] <book> holy shat - do you have the family and every 3rd cousin on your ownCloud?  lol
[01:40] <book> ouroumov, is that storage all for you?
[01:42] <ouroumov> Hm?
[03:34] <loot> bot
[04:55] <Codfection> can I install ubuntu mate on xubuntu
[04:55] <Codfection> or vice versa
[05:19] <ouroumov> Codfection: yes, but a clean install is better
[05:19] <Codfection> ouroumov, you mean one de only
[05:20] <ouroumov> I mean the furthest from baseline your system strays, the hardest it will be to get support.
[05:20] <Codfection> clean install = xubuntu or mate
[05:20] <ouroumov> Yeah
[05:20] <Codfection> but in this case I can choose only one
[05:21] <ouroumov> What's wrong with having only one? Did you want to field test both then make a choice?
[05:24] <Codfection> I wanna keep switching between these 2
[05:24] <Codfection> with same apps
[05:24] <Codfection> installed
[07:43] <WhyAreLess> Hi. Just wanted to say thank you guys for this awesome distro :) Probably the best one I've ever used. Keep up the good work
[09:42] <Mister_Q> flexiondotorg ping
[10:30] <mchasard> hi
[10:31] <mchasard> i was here yesterday to relate some youtube videos troubles with epipahny and mpidori browser ....under ubuntu mate , lubuntu but  with xubuntu all is fine ... don't know really why
[10:37] <oracle> good morning
[10:37] <ouroumov> hi mchasard, hi oracle
[10:37] <ouroumov> mchasard, can you restate the problem?
[10:38] <oracle> hi ouroumov
[10:39] <mchasard> i was under lubuntu or ubuntu mate before and noway to readyoutubevideo with midori or epiphany browser ... with firefox no troubles
[10:39] <mchasard> so migrate to xubuntu all is fine for any browser
[10:39] <flexiondotorg> Mister_Q, pong
[10:40] <ouroumov> mchasard, what versions of those OSes?
[10:40] <Mister_Q> flexiondotorg I've already send you the link on telegram ;)
[10:40] <ouroumov> g'day flexiondotorg
[10:40] <mchasard> 16.04
[10:41] <mchasard> even in the hmtl 5 page the extension was in red ...ot works under xubuntu
[10:42] <mchasard> and this is with several device
[10:42] <mchasard> raspberry pi 3 , eeepc 701
[10:42] <flexiondotorg> Mister_Q, Ahhh, it's you :-)
[10:42] <flexiondotorg> ouroumov, o/
[10:47] <Mister_Q> flexiondotorg, yup It's me :D
[11:01] <Sp1r1t> what's the difference between man and help under CLI?
[11:02] <rahtgaz> help will show you help for the shell builtin commands.
[11:02] <rahtgaz> This is so, because otherwise to get help on those you would have to go to "man bash" and look for the command there
[11:04] <Sp1r1t> i don't get u @rahtgaz
[11:05] <ouroumov> help is commands inside your shell, meaning the program that listen to commands you type
[11:06] <ouroumov> man is for commands provided by programs that are not your shell, such as: htop, nano, etc
[11:06] <rahtgaz> Ok, you can issue normals commands like launching programs installed in your computer. for instance grep is an actual program
[11:06] <rahtgaz> other commands aren't actual programs, but instead they are a commands that only the shell understands
[11:07] <rahtgaz> help allows you to more quickly see the documentation on those shell-only commands
[11:07] <rahtgaz> But bewware...
[11:07] <rahtgaz> the shell does have some builtin commands with the same name of installed programs
[11:07] <rahtgaz> for instance,
[11:08] <rahtgaz> if you type 'type -a echo' you will see it exists as a builtin command and as a program in /bin
[11:08] <rahtgaz> this is on purpose, because the shell redefines some of those programs
[11:09] <rahtgaz> sometimes when you are reading the man on a program, you may see it telling you that the shell has its own built-in version of that program
[11:09] <rahtgaz> so you know, that is a command like the echo command above. It exists as a program, but also as a shell builtin
[11:10] <rahtgaz> the help command allows you to see those
[11:10] <rahtgaz> to see the documentation, i mean
[11:10] <rahtgaz> hope i made any sense
[11:11] <guest-3uRgbz> hi,
[11:13] <ouroumov> hi guest-3uRgbz
[11:15] <guest-3uRgbz> i just log in it's the first time i use ubuntu mate and i got my:  name + gest + other . coulr anyone tell me what other is please ??
[11:17] <guest-3uRgbz> is that to register someone else ??? in my computer .... when i put my password it dos not log in other ? so what is for please anyone
[11:18] <guest-3uRgbz> ?
[11:20] <guest-3uRgbz> hi ouroumov could you help me to understand what is other for when i start my computer please ...!!!
[11:22] <guest-3uRgbz> anyone to help me please .. is that the chat for UBUNTU MATE ......!
[11:24] <guest-3uRgbz> I'm new to Ubuntu MATE , how can I get practical help , please  ...............?
[11:26] <guest-3uRgbz> is there any other Chanel i can get help .... anyone .... !
[12:36] <Sp1r1t> how do you scan an entire drive / disk using clam av on ubuntu mate?
[12:36] <Sp1r1t> either CLI or GUI?
[12:37] <Sp1r1t> thanks so much rahtgaz! very explanatory
[12:37] <Akuli> why would you do that?
[13:01] <azeem> hello all
[13:35] <Sp1r1t> i'm suspecting that my ubuntu mate is infected
[13:35] <Sp1r1t> it behaves.. funnily
[13:37] <Akuli> Sp1r1t, create a new user account, and you're good to go
[13:59] <maro> The SSL certificates for the Ubuntu MATE site don't work?
[14:01] <skinux_> I'm having trouble playing DVDs. I get black area over DVD menus or just over the whole movie area.
[14:01] <skinux_> I'm using VLC 2.2.2
[14:18] <maro> Do you also see invalid SSL certificates?
[14:20] <bennabiy> ouroumov: Can you point me in the right direction of how to troubleshoot the Advanced menu not appearing on remote X? (only a single white pixel)
[14:21] <skinux_> Umm...maro...I don't know
[14:22] <skinux_> Oh..wait..that wasn't to me
[15:47] <tomrbland> Hi everyone, I'm just after a bit of help. I'm running MATE on my Rasp' PI3 and I'm trying to develop a script that gets the machine setup in the way that I want it for development. Part of that is setting a static IP. Usually I'd just edit network/interfaces with the setup info. But with the introduction of Predictable Network Interface Names it m
[15:47] <tomrbland> eans I can't just use eth0 as the interface name and it just work. It has to be some name based on the MACaddress of the interface. There seems to be many workarounds for this on the web. The most common solution seems to revolve around adding "net.ifnames=0 biosdevname=0" in various places. This doesn't seem to work for me.
[15:47] <tomrbland> I can't use the given enx* name because I need this script to work on any PI, not fixed to one MAC address.
[15:47] <tomrbland> The other solutions I've seen involve editing several files then setting up links etc. Is there not a nice simple way to get back to the old eth0?
[15:48] <ouroumov> hi tomrbland
[15:49] <ouroumov> I think at least one user discussed it on the forum.
[15:49] <ouroumov> Afaik (I'm not a rpi user) setting the linux kernel boot parameter to net.ifname=0 should be enough
[15:50] <ouroumov> bennabiy: hi
[15:50] <ouroumov> bennabiy: sorry, I don't know, about that at all
[15:51] <bennabiy> Is there someone in here who would? I just forked mate-menu to get access to fixing it
[15:51] <bennabiy> ouroumov: thank you for getting back to me
[15:52] <ouroumov> flexiondotorg, hi. I might have some bad news. I think that leak may be in a core MATE component, because I've noticed even pluma is affected (Still as a side effect of the EOM slideshow)
[15:53] <tomrbland> thanks, I'll keep trying with ifname=0
[15:53] <ouroumov> tomrbland,
[15:53] <ouroumov> you need to sudo update grub for that change to take effect, I think
[15:53] <ouroumov> * sudo update-grub
[15:55] <tomrbland> ouroumov: the PI doesn't use grub.
[15:55] <ouroumov> bennabiy, most the mate devs hang out in #mate-dev
[15:55] <ouroumov> tomrbland, argh
[16:01] <tomrbland> ouroumov: I know!
[16:53] <carolo> hi?
[23:33] <james000-> Hi, I'm trying to get my Wacom CTL-490DW-S to map to a single monitor, rather than my entire array. As per http://linuxwacom.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Dual_and_Multi-Monitor_Set_Up I have identified the names of my monitors and have then proceeded to run xsetwacom to map it to said monitor, as such.. http://pastebin.com/Tu76vP5U However the command fails and I do not know why
[23:37] <james000-> In an ideal world, the ubuntu mate devs would have build a configuration utility similar to the one found in stock ubuntu, which, as I understand it, does not work on GTK2 systems