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slangasek#startmeeting15:02
meetingologyMeeting started Thu Aug  4 15:02:34 2016 UTC.  The chair is slangasek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.15:02
meetingologyAvailable commands: action commands idea info link nick15:02
slangasek[TOPIC] Lightning round15:02
slangasek$ echo $(shuf -e barry doko bdmurray slangasek caribou infinity sil2100 robru cyphermox pitti tdaitx xnox chiluk mwhudson)15:02
slangasekbdmurray pitti mwhudson robru chiluk barry cyphermox infinity xnox slangasek doko caribou tdaitx sil210015:03
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Lightning round
slangasekand... go15:03
sil2100Phew, will have time to prep my notes at least15:03
bdmurrayirc discussion regarding the haproxy charm, switched one being used15:03
bdmurrayworked on utilizing swift for ET code storage in mojo spec15:03
bdmurrayworked on RT re Lift and shift error-tracker staging environment15:03
bdmurrayupdated meta-release files for X point release and W EOL15:03
bdmurrayubuntu-release-upgrader bug triage15:04
bdmurrayreported, fixed update-manager bug regarding hwe-support-status (LP: #1607983)15:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1607983 in update-manager (Ubuntu Precise) "hwe-support-status --show-replacements shows replacements that are installed" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/160798315:04
bdmurraybuilt, tested, uploaded update-manager w/ HWE support for Trusty15:04
bdmurray✔ done15:04
bdmurrayresearch into adding update-notifier hwe support for Trusty15:04
slangasekpitti is off15:05
slangasekmwhudson is in the shadow of the sun15:05
slangasekrobru:15:05
robruah15:05
robrulp:bileto15:05
robru* big cache expiry cleanup. better logging, more aggressive purging, purging some caches that were previously overlooked and growing without bound15:05
robru* pretty display for merge targets when there are too many15:05
robru* fix race condition when deciding when to branch and when to pull local bzr caches15:05
robru* fix discovery of arches to consider for regressions when overlay PPA supports fewer arches than distro15:05
robru* serialize some overly-parallelized 'bzr missing' invocations that were hammering LP too hard15:05
robru* decrease status updater from 15 minutes to 20 minutes also due to too-high load15:05
robru* new page that only shows failure logs now that status job is spamming the "all logs" page15:05
robru* make britney skip QA-approved tickets in addition to the already skipped britney-approved tickets, halving britney run time from 1hr to 30 minutes.15:05
robru* fix race condition where status job reports stale status too soon after build job triggered, so people stop getting confused and building twice in a row for no reason15:05
robru* change instance_id from uuid to md5sum of html/js/css assets so forced page reloads stop happening when assets haven't changed15:05
robru* several iterations on CSS based on user feedback; now status/signoffs have independant coloring, and icons, rather than trying to choose one color based on the whole ticket status15:05
* xnox shakes fist at the sun shadow15:06
slangasekrobru: cache expiry cleanup> so things that were being cached that should have been cleaned up when a ticket was closed out (landed/dropped) but weren't?15:07
chiluklp 1607920 : zfs failure on first boot due to missing /etc/mtab.  Will be fixing upstream to use /proc/self/mounts, and then SRU back into Ubuntu.15:07
chilukVacation Monday, Tuesday, off again Friday (lasik)15:07
chiluk-done-15:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1607920 in zfs-linux (Ubuntu) "zfs services fail on firstboot if zfs-utils is integrated into the deployment image" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/160792015:07
barryubuntu-image: gadget.yaml branch; snap weld branch; test fixing branches; more-parsing branch; LP: #160543415:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1605434 in Ubuntu Image "testsuite calls 'snap weld' multiple times" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/160543415:07
slangasek"missing /etc/mtab" pff ancient software15:07
barrydebuntu: voluptuous 0.9.2-1, 9.3-1, syncpackage; xonsh 0.4.4+dfsg-1 sponsorship; zope.interface 4.2.0-215:07
barry--done--15:07
chilukyeah.. it should've been fixed long ago.15:08
robruslangasek: yeah some lplib cache files were being kept forever, that got up to 200MBs until I started pruning it, also it was keeping britney indexes forever eg so we had trusty index files despite the fact that no trusty tickets were using britney for a while, so I started cleaning those up15:08
chilukbut there's a lot of logic around it and processing it.15:08
slangasekrobru: oh interesting, I thought lplib did its own cache management properly15:08
slangasekwell, I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if I have a 200MB cache here :)15:08
robruslangasek: yeah that was my assumption too but I've been watching the lplib cache expand for a long time, it started at 2MBs and just got bigger and bigger15:09
robruslangasek: it was growing by about 2MBs/day, now I delete all files older than 24 hours and the size hovers at 120MB15:09
slangasekcyphermox:15:10
cyphermoxyup15:10
cyphermoxMIR:15:10
cyphermox- review barbican (bug LP: #1543754)15:10
cyphermox- review content-hub (bug LP: #1597453)15:10
sil2100Didn't know lplib was such a beast15:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1543754 in barbican (Ubuntu) "[MIR] barbican, python-pykmip" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154375415:10
cyphermox- review libpod-constants-perl15:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1597453 in content-hub (Ubuntu) "[MIR] content-hub" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/159745315:10
cyphermox- review network-manager-openvpn (bug LP: #1574576)15:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1574576 in network-manager-openvpn (Ubuntu) "[MIR] network-manager-openvpn" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/157457615:10
cyphermoxtrusty:15:10
cyphermox- NVMe SRU for ubiquity installer (bug LP: #1600308)15:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1600308 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Xenial) "ubiquity targets invalid device name with nvme disks, fails to install grub" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/160030815:10
cyphermoxxenial:15:10
* bdmurray thought everybody knew15:10
robrusil2100: bileto uses it rather aggressively15:10
cyphermox- grub2 efi ipv6 patch backports (bug LP: #1229458)15:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1229458 in grub2-signed (Ubuntu Xenial) "grubnetx64.efi tftp client does not work over ipv6" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122945815:10
cyphermoxyakkety:15:10
cyphermox- merge / review choose-mirror15:10
slangasekyay phone MIRs \o/15:10
cyphermox- packagekit 1.1.1 no-change rebuilds15:10
cyphermox- discussion/planning shim work with pjones15:10
cyphermox- review ubiquity gtk3.20 changes from Laney15:10
cyphermox- fixup ubiquity ftbfs and error in nvme regex15:10
cyphermox- investigated porting click to packagekit 1.1.115:11
cyphermox  - looks like maybe just a no-change rebuild will do, have yet to test from a PPA package15:11
robrumy local lplib cache is only 18MBs, heh15:11
cyphermoxother stuff:15:11
cyphermox- setting up snap build for canonical-foundations15:11
cyphermox- shim Secure Boot prompting improvements (bug LP: #1595611, bug LP: #1604936)15:11
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1595611 in shim-signed (Ubuntu Xenial) "Improve prompting for Secure Boot password" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/159561115:11
cyphermox- some NetworkManager DNS issue with VPNs not in split-tunnelling.15:11
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1604936 in shim-signed (Ubuntu Xenial) "Please document command-line options with --help and when called incorrectly" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/160493615:11
cyphermox- helped out slashd with packaging issues (mostly answering questions)15:11
cyphermox- waiting for a shim signature15:11
cyphermoxyeah, phone MIRs, I'm a bit behind in reviewing MIRs so I took a bite from my list :)15:11
cyphermox(done)15:11
* sil2100 gently pokes infinity 15:12
slangasekcyphermox: don't know if it's been mentioned anywhere to you, but the goal from the client side is to have the unity8 stack on the desktop image as a non-default session by 16.10, so there'll be a few more MIRs coming :)15:12
cyphermoxslangasek: I know! no problem, I don't mind reviewing them15:13
slangasekright :)15:13
sil2100We moving unity8 stuff to main now?15:13
slangaseksil2100: yes15:13
cyphermoxit takes a bit of time, maybe I'm a little more thorough than I should by doing some code review, but hey15:13
sil2100Wow, didn't hear there was a final decision to do that now finally15:13
sil2100I might want to help with that15:13
slangaseklong overdue, and the security team has been looped in to triage things globally wrt what is going to need deep security review and when15:13
* slangasek pokes infinity less gently than sil2100 15:14
cyphermoxhe wasn't responding earlier, but he pinged me at some insane hour15:14
xnox..15:14
xnoxboost1.61 update prepared for gcc+icu transition15:14
xnoxopenssl enable asm and apply fixes lp #1601836 also requested the same to be done in debian (maintainers are agreeable to the idea)15:14
xnoxgenerate cloud images appx for Ubuntu on Windows15:14
xnox14.04 point release testing (nvme)15:14
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1601836 in Ubuntu on IBM z Systems "Openssl libcrypto performance issue" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/160183615:14
xnoxsru validation15:14
xnoxupcoming helping with boost/gcc/icu transition15:14
xnox..15:14
xnox.... clearly enabling asm optimisations never causes regressions =) *caugh* but testing so far is solid and everyone else has it enabled15:15
slangasekxnox: was the '..' a 'done'?15:16
cyphermoxisn't it an escape in some weird terminal thing?15:16
slangasekxnox, doko: I noticed the thread discussing ABI incompatibilities between gcc5 and gcc6... I think we're going to need to dig into this wrt phone stack ABIs15:16
slangasek(not here and now, but imminently)15:17
slangasekcyphermox: 8270?15:17
slangasek * last week: CDO midcycle sprint15:17
slangasek  * lightning talk demo of snappy first boot experience, it was pretty snappy!15:17
slangasek  * discussions around snappy support on 14.0415:17
slangasek * Monday: travel swap15:17
slangasek * Tuesday: email catch-up15:17
slangasek * Wednesday: sick day15:17
slangasek * next:15:17
slangasek  * continued mid-cycle braindump15:17
cyphermoxslangasek: sorry, I 404.15:17
slangasek  * continued email catch-up15:17
slangasek  * ubuntu-image15:17
slangasek(done)15:17
xnoxslangasek, we know boost-regexp is bust, and autopkgtest shows that possibly some kdelibs are bust too. Apperantly they have fixed the bugs in abi-tagging in nested templates or something.15:17
doko- GCC 6 now the default15:18
doko- gcc 4.9.4 release, package update, gcc 5.4.1 package update15:18
doko- boost 1.61 transition15:18
doko- fixing build failures related to GCC 6 and boost 1.6115:18
doko- pinging people about fixing build failures ...15:18
doko- openjdk-8 update15:18
doko(done)15:18
slangasekxnox: sure; but where "fixed bug" == "break compatibility", we need to have a plan :)15:18
dokoslangasek, but it will be ugly in any case15:18
slangasekit sounds like the gcc6 + boost 1.61 build failures should now be fixed en masse? yes?15:18
dokoyes, there are "some".15:19
dokobut let's first finish the transition rebuilds, see http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/transitions/html/boost1.61.html15:19
* slangasek nods15:19
slangasekdoko: so I suppose once boost has cleared we want to revisit what's still broken that the phone team needs to look at?15:20
slangasekmeanwhile15:20
slangasekno caribou15:20
slangasektdaitx:15:20
tdaitx= OpenJDK security update15:20
tdaitx- Packaged IcedTea 2.6.7 into openjdk-7-7u111-2.6.7 for Trusty and Precise; tested and provided packages to the security team15:20
tdaitx* Had to retry ARM64 build on Trusty 6 times until gcc/g++ didn't segfault (happens on every update as the PPA must use only the -security pocket, version on -updates works fine); tips on how to fix that?15:20
tdaitx- Working on 2 regressions from the security updates:15:20
tdaitx* JAMVM regression on OpenJDK 7u11115:20
tdaitx* OpenJDK 8u101 Zero VM on armhf (LP: #1609190)15:20
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1609190 in openjdk-8 (Ubuntu) "/usr/lib/jvm/java-8-openjdk-armhf/jre/bin/java:6:BytecodeInterpreter::run:CppInterpreter::main_loop:CppInterpreter::normal_entry:ZeroEntry::invoke:Interpreter::invoke_method" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/160919015:20
tdaitx= AOB15:20
tdaitx- Trying to figure out why Network Manager can't restart openvpn when ping-restart is set (seems to be missing the up script or dependencies in the chroot, still debugging that, see https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=667611#20); cyphermox, help? =)15:20
ubottuDebian bug 667611 in network-manager-openvpn "n-m-openvpn shuts down VPN when openvpn soft-restarts" [Normal,Open]15:20
dokoslangasek, yes, they have a list, and are apparently starting to fix things15:20
tdaitx- Provider will install landline/adsl tomorrow morning (Friday)15:20
tdaitx(done)15:20
slangasekdoko: ok good :)15:21
cyphermoxoh, hai15:21
sil2100oh15:22
sil2100Me15:22
sil2100- Landing team work, silo coordination, preparing landing e-mails15:22
sil2100- RTM status meetings15:22
sil2100- Touch xenial:15:22
sil2100  * Coordinating rebuilds of all core clicks for arm6415:22
sil2100  * Modifying the livecd-rootfs build hooks to fetch arm64 from a different location15:22
slangasektdaitx: tips on how to fix the -security gcc being broken> get the security team to pull that gcc into the security pocket for you? :)15:22
sil2100  * Switching system-image to import the new arm64 rootfs - first frieza arm64 image!15:22
sil2100  * Discussing fat-click-package future (consensus: wait for snaps?)15:22
sil2100- DMB meeting15:22
sil2100- Trying to refresh packagesets with the packageset script, output strange15:22
sil2100- Added mate-hub to the ubuntu-mate packageset15:22
sil2100- Releasing the modified goget-ubuntu-touch for new device support15:22
sil2100- Looking into backporting libboost1.58 to the overlay as per phone needs15:22
sil2100- Staging updated touch seeds to include new packages (indicator-keyboard, account-plugin-owncloud)15:22
sil2100- Started backporting golang-1.6 to the overlay as it seems to fix various issues15:22
sil2100- Finished work on switching generate-commitlog to the new bileto published_versions15:22
sil2100- Validating SRUs for xorg-server and mesa15:22
sil2100(got distracted, done)15:22
tdaitxslangasek, heh, I will poke them then15:22
tdaitxthanks15:22
slangasektdaitx: they may say 'no', of course, but it's the right conversation to have :)15:23
slangaseksil2100: an arm64 image? woot!15:23
sil2100\o/15:24
slangaseksounds like you all had a very productive week without me15:24
sil2100Yeah, it doesn't boot quite yet, but it's because we didn't have a working device tarball15:24
slangasekshould I go away more often? ;)15:24
slangasekany questions re: status?15:24
sil2100ondra assumed the armhf one should work ;p15:24
sil2100Not from me15:24
slangaseksil2100: backporting golang-1.6 to the overlay> that seems like it shouldn't be necessary to "backport" given that we have golang-1.6 as an SRU all the way back to trusty.  Do we just need to forward-copy to vivid/wily?15:25
sil2100Oh, might be a good idea then, yeah15:26
sil2100Didn't know we had that in trusty15:26
* sil2100 could have checked15:26
sil2100I mean, I rarely look 'backwards' for stuff ;)15:26
sil2100That would make things rather easy15:26
slangasekif we want to do it "properly" then we may have to re-bootstrap in each release; mwhudson would be the one to talk to about that15:27
slangasekotherwise, I would be ok in this case with just binary-copying forward from trusty to vivid+wily, provided that infinity won't stab me for this15:28
sil2100He's not here so I guess we can just do it, he won't notice ;p15:28
slangasekheh15:29
slangaseksil2100: anyway, fast path to avoid blocking on SRU process would be for you to just do binary copy from trusty to the overlay ppa; it's a completely new package so I *think* it should be safe to copy in without going through a silo15:29
slangasekbut, of course, you should double-check that it's not going to clobber any other binary packages15:30
sil2100I wanted to do that through a silo so that I can do rebuilds of all the packages we need and see if those work ok on vivid15:30
slangasekok15:30
slangasekthen you can binary-copy to a silo instead of to the overlay :-)15:30
sil2100SInce we know that golang-1.6 fixed some issues for xenial, and possibly it will fix those on vivid too15:30
sil2100Will do, thanks :)15:30
slangasekare you intending to change the golang defaults, or just provide golang-1.6 as an alternative?15:31
slangasekthe latter matches what's been done in trusty, and is probably easier to QA in pieces because only things you know are broken and need rebuilt have to opt-in15:31
sil2100Not sure yet, both ways would work fine as we want to use the new golang for all our touch go packages anyway15:31
sil2100But yeah, maybe it would be less troublesome to not do a change of defaults15:32
* slangasek nods15:32
sil2100THen we can have more control if anything is broken15:32
sil2100+1 on that idea then ;)15:32
slangasekcool15:32
slangasek[TOPIC] AOB15:32
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: AOB
slangasekanything else?15:33
slangasek#endmeeting15:34
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology
meetingologyMeeting ended Thu Aug  4 15:34:56 2016 UTC.15:34
meetingologyMinutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2016/ubuntu-meeting.2016-08-04-15.02.moin.txt15:34
slangasekthanks, all!15:34
barrythanks!15:35
sil2100Thanks!15:35
mwhudsonslangasek, sil2100: bootstrapping golang-1.6 in vivid and wily should be easy enough, gccgo is new enough there20:06
mwhudsonslangasek, sil2100: copy-package -b is even easier though ...20:06
sil2100mwhudson: I did a copy-package to a silo already from trusty20:43
sil2100mwhudson: it's now about building go packages20:44
sil2100Like, those using golang20:44
mwhudsonah ok20:44

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